Mostly he was just showing off the hypos and neuros
#videos-and-streams
timber mason
knotty wagon
Nothing new then?
open tartan
And seeing them again damn are they beautiful, the effort put into the strains are amazing
knotty wagon
I'm more focused on game performance than new dinos
timber mason
Nothing except that tiny bit of sauropod info, from what I can remember anyway
There is a chance though that by "He'll be in survival" that he means that it will just be AI in survival :/
knotty wagon
Discovered a bug when I was changing key bindings. Where if you were to change a key (like sense mode button from q to j, or crouch from CTRL to C) you get this instead.
In other words Debughud is bind to INSERT but its actually bind to P.
idk why or what causes.
Seems like he needs to postpone that plan first
timber mason
Put it in bug-discussion and the bug-reports thread
timber mason
I've never tried to change the key bindings so idk
knotty wagon
well what ever you don't
I tried to and it fucked my game up
well what ever you do don't*
forgot to add a do
timber mason
I knew what you meant, it's fine
knotty wagon
I just hope the devs see this issue before they add in the hypos or whatever
open tartan
hypos are gonna be a long way down the road for us
keen summit
I can't imagine how pue gonna survive as a juvi 🤔
sacred cedar
Give it some amazing camo and a little bit attack and he should be fine i think 😃
merry kernel
It will be fine, probably
merry kernel
Probably will be as bad as playing any other baby. Hide in the trees and all will be fine.
summer bolt
pue would defo need separate animations for the baby stage
old arch
Pue would basically be the rex of the herbivores
Before being fully grown it can be fucked by numerous things
That's uh, that's the comparison
And it'd probably take a long time
keen summit
I can imagine camara in survival, but pue? It's slow af.
summer bolt
pue is useless until it reaches 16k+ weight
old arch
Yeah and that, pue isn't really all that entertaining anyway
Trike's already extremely boring in my opinion since literally nothing wants to attack me, I can't even imagine playing as a sauropod
keen summit
Yee, invincible honking watchtower playstyle gets boring quickly
open tartan
pue could probably be a lil thing that runs on it's back legs as a baby like how brontos could but lose it as it grows up
same for cama I guess, whatever one seems more plausible
chrome reef
@timber mason was this a recent stream? Not too long ago dondi confirmed in a separate stream that brachi would be replacing pue entirely. Pue is an old TSL model and is really awful. No reason to remodel it when we have a great brachi model by Jake
gleaming epoch
i know that pue sounds boring to the majority of players but personally i would really like to play it in survival
or brachi
near cedar
.> well, there was talk of baby allos in the global chat and it was survival dev, chances are that stream is pretty recent
vivid tusk
wasnt the main reason for them being not playable was that once humans are in they would just kill the sauropods and then those players would give negative reviews because of that
or was it something else
open tartan
eh, even if they aren't there'll be modded servers for having sauropods playable if ai gets life stages
and yes, that was the reason
nothing a sauropod can do, can't run or hide at adult
vivid tusk
yh
frosty ridge
It's also because you need 20 different keys to attack. Stomp. Front kick on each leg. Back kick on each leg. Tail swipes. An AI is going to be better equipped for that
knotty wagon
^ Iirc it’s too hard to defend yourself as a sauropod
In general
They’re slow and even with all those attacks they’re still slow enough that they’d prob die fairly regularly
gleaming epoch
ive never had trouble fighting as pue in progression and im assuming humans wont be finished for a while so i dont see any problem with it
barren glacier
Stomping dmg could at least make it more difficult to take down and i mean every herb is somehow weak alone so ofc in herds they would be kinda hard to get.
Diplodocus for ex was estimated to a speed of 20km/h even though it weigh 15 tons and though it has a decent size, it still wouldnt be enormous enough to be an awkwardly slow boy. So stomping dmg, and a tailwhip that u can attack to left and right wouldnt be that easy to take out unless u have a coordinated grp
indigo stream
Also as Ninja scout pointed out earlier. Adult sauropods will really just function as spectator mode.
Nothing's going to bother messing with an adult. Which means zero player interaction other than a human with a gun
barren glacier
Depends on what kind of sauropod u are talking about. An adult brachio is just too big to be messed with for everything that runs around but a diplodocus for ex wouldnt have the size to be awkwardly slow and could maybe trot as fast as a trike. U would have an advantage through your size but there would be still things that could hunt you down if they clearly out number you and are fast and coordinated enough. An example are endurance hunters which could be allosaurus or some bigger one which is giga. And since humans wont get guns easy they also wont get ammo easy which means the most stupid thing they could ever do is wasting ammo just to kill a 15 ton animal
gleaming epoch
true true
formal harness
can anyone tell me if they have already added the attack of the raptors that they are stuck in the backs of the dinosaurs?
gleaming epoch
and whos to say that humans will exclusively hunt sauropods, it would be much more ammo effecient to hunt small things.
inner locust
pouncing onto prey is coming
not in yet tho
@gleaming epoch you're implying that they are hunting it for a reason
gleaming epoch
maybe humans need to eat
inner locust
everyone and their mum will shoot sauropods for fun
gleaming epoch
dino skin or hide for clothes?
inner locust
if they had enough ammo
inner locust
i know i would will
gleaming epoch
but its not like you will be granted infinite ammo
let alone a gun in the first place
barren glacier
Yeah but the fact that weapons and ammo wont be easy to get will automatically eradicate the "sauropods getting hunt down with miniguns for fun"-thing :D
inner locust
i'm going to die eventually, might as well ruin as many peoples fun as i can in the meantime
gleaming epoch
and i could imagine it would take quite a bit of rounds to take out a sauropod, their skin was probably real thicc
dim rain
A sauropod with a long whip like tail like a Diplodocus could cover both sides of its legs with it. Thats why I think Diplo would be a nice sauropod to have in The Isle.
Or maybe a Dinheirosaurus, which I really like from Dinosaur revolution.
open tartan
Also to be honest on the earlier note of attacks, stomp is kinda useless as most times they just see you rearing up and they gtfo there, could be like a whole alternating kick kind of thing, also going off of the pues moveset. You could do shift right click for a left kick, don't know how viable it would be but eh
wait fuck I already said this
sterile wigeon
That moment when most sauropods have pretty small heads that would explode from normal firepower
open tartan
Get to a size where you're safe from preds and welp, awell placed shot is still gonna wreck ya
boreal moth
barren glacier
like i said give it one right and one left tailwhip attack, trample damage on every step it does so people think twice getting near its legs and the front-stomp more like a short hop to bump on ground with both forelimbs to deal dmg that can be dodged but just by really good players. ofc tailwhip with no stam cost, just as trample dmg and the stomp-hop ofc with stam use so it cant be spammed. another idea (but with that aswell diplo would have 5 attacks xD) would be to give it a necksweep to right and left that can only be done while sprinting and right/left clicking. ofc not as much dmg as the tail but have a decent backknock. and it wouldnt be that easy to get this guys down, except it is exhausted which would make 2 attacks out of 5 cause necksweep need sprint, while stomp-hop does too ^^ think i should bring this up into suggestions?
mental vault
Make a small sauropod that is basically a slower shant
Rears up and begins deer punches
But thicker
mental vault
herra best sauropod
barren glacier
oof
open tartan
Herra is the chad of the isle, shant is the virgin loser
dim rain
Was there ever a Diplo model shown?
barren glacier
no that was bronto/Apato
mental vault
It's a likely sauropod for the future, but for the moment nothing has been shown
chrome reef
Dondi confirmed it would be added
Not when though
He said after brachi is added though iirc
Sometime after*
dim rain
Aah ok.
timber mason
I still don't understand the "sauropods will need 25+ attacks to make them viable" argument. Especially when they get trample damage, the whole leg biting technique would get you crushed.
dapper void
Diplo probably wouldn't need a back leg attack anyway, its tail has a very long range, it would be able to cover its hind quarters quite well
timber mason
I haven't heard dondi mention the diplo
To me it's a ghost dino at the moment, something that might or might not be in the game
Depends on how they do the trample damage aswell mind
It could only cover the space in front of the back legs, so leg biting with careful positioning could still be a thing for dinos that are below tail level.
summer bolt
You can't make the trample all-powerful as the legs are basically the only spot vulnurable to attack on a sauropod
And when trample leaves blind spots, you need attacks to cover those spots
And that goes on till you have 25+ attacks on the dino
timber mason
Except a lot of the big apex carnivores can reach the belly on the sides, plus carnis like allo should be able to pounce and latch onto said sauropod (ofc depending on which species of sauropod)
pliant dew
diplo and camara imo
timber mason
Yeah, a smaller sauropod. Giants like brachi and pue are too powerful and slow to be enjoyable to play.
sterile wigeon
Sauropods just have glaring issues
would suck to play the younger stages, and as an adult any human could kill you
timber mason
Humans could kill anyone, including apex carnis
timber mason
Most human players if they are hunting will be stealthy
Plus they'll probs have guns that can fire from a great distance
sterile wigeon
Ok, so sauropods get fucked hard
they can't run, fight, or hide from the humans due to how slow they are
so they just get shot in the head and die
and have to go through the agonizing juvi stage again
ionic phoenix
I understand that sauropods get slammed by humans, but...what reason would a mercenary really have to waste ammunition on one?
I mean
sterile wigeon
Because they can?
sterile wigeon
That's all the reason you really need, people will do it regardless
ionic phoenix
Exactly
timber mason
We don't know the exact mechanics of the humans yet, so a lot of that is just assumption. Like we don't know what guns are going to be in the game, how hard they will be to obtain, how frequent ammo will drop ect
ionic phoenix
I hope ammunition is EXTREMELY rare
Like, you'll really be under pressure when the time comes to use it
Not just spray and pray
sterile wigeon
We know that guns will be accurately dangerous to dinosaurs, and considering many sauropod heads are similar in size to a horse's...
ionic phoenix
Pop
timber mason
Humans won't just hint sauropods
sterile wigeon
Why not?
timber mason
Why would they just hunt sauropods when they can hunt their childhood favourite
Like a T-Rex
timber mason
I'm not saying they won't try and kill them, I'm saying it's not the only dino that will die to one bullet. So your argument of not bothering to play a certain dino because it can get killed by being shot in the head from one bullet is dumb
sterile wigeon
It's not just that it's a one hit kill, though]
ionic phoenix
Well, comparing a Utahraptor to a Puertasaurus, the Utah can dart away
The puerta is just a gamble on how the merc feels
sterile wigeon
it's that sauropods are a one hit kill that can do nothing to protect themselves
timber mason
Can dart away from a sniper hiding in a bush that it's not aware of...no
timber mason
You can't protect yourself if you don't know it's coming
sterile wigeon
Ok, but the sauropod can do fuck all even if it sees the humans?
wtf is your reasoning?
That's called an ambush, the utah could do the same thing back to the human
the pue?
good luck ambushing someone with a pue
timber mason
Pue? Pue and brachio shouldn't be playable
timber mason
Smaller sauropods like camara and perhaps a diplo
sterile wigeon
you're slow, you shake the ground, and are likely taller than any of the surrounding foliage
timber mason
Why would a camara or diplo ambush anything....
sterile wigeon
Why would the human be ambushing shit in your reasoning?
Even if a sauropod knows that the human is there, there is nothing it can do
a utah, meanwhile, can dart around and still kill the human
timber mason
Those sauropods are not taller than the trees.
Errr the humans ofc will ambush dinos if they are HUNTING them
timber mason
And you don't know the ammo/gun rates to just assume that a human will waste it on every sauropod they see
sterile wigeon
The issue was that sauropods would be defenseless against a human, why are you bringing human ambushes into this?
timber mason
Nor the resources/trophies that each dino species will drop
sterile wigeon
Ok
So you think
That punishing humans for wasting ammo will prevent them from wasting ammo?
That isn't how the world works, people will still just waste the ammo anyway
WHY?!
Say it with me now;
Because it is a game
keen summit
because big part of the community are assholes. they will waste ammo just for fun
paper mantle
timber mason
Ugh, humans will also be able to kill giga and rexes with one well placed shot too. Both those dinos have bigger heads and shorter necks which makes them easier to hit (presuming that the head will be the weak spot). T-Rex especially is not particularly fast and mercenaries will also have vehicles. You're arguement is that a suaropod cannot defend itself against a human therefore should not be playable. Yet how can a rex defend itself when a group of humans are pummeling it with bullets from all the way across a field? It isn't fast enough to run away or run towards them therefore that creature should also not be playable by your logic? It's also huge, shakes the ground and makes lots of noise. The only thing going for it is it can crouch.
sterile wigeon
Yes
Apexes are planned to be possibly made into ai
your point?
Also
a rex can hide
Even if it's slow
It can definitely hide
a sauropod can't
ever
because it's too big
timber mason
Hiding means shit all. You still have to drink and eat. You can't spend the entire game crouching
sterile wigeon
Say that to any dryo main ever
timber mason
That's IF they spot the humans first
sterile wigeon
Why would that matter?
The sauropod is dead regardless of if it sees the humans
the rex isn't
therefore
rex is more viable
timber mason
If they spot the humans first then they know where to hide to be out of their view. If the humans spot the rex first then one bullet between the eyes and dead rex
We are going around in circles, lets just agree to disagree
sterile wigeon
First off, rex would have a pretty hefty skull to shoot through, a sauropod does not
Secondly, you keep ignoring that a sauropod cannot hide
timber mason
As I said before that's assuming that the head is it's weak spot which all dinos will have a weak spot. We don't know about them yet so that's an example
They shouldn't have to. Their head is tiny on a long ass neck. Hitting that will not be easy plus the smaller sauropods can take cover in the trees which will make it harder because the foliage will cover their heads.
sterile wigeon
A rex skull is large, meaning there is a chance for the bullet to not go through it, similar to when bears survive head shots
A sauropod head is small, and would be easily destroyed by any gun these humans would have if they can reach it
add onto that a crazy frustrating growth
you get a dinosaur that isn't fun to play in survival'
timber mason
Re read the first part of what I wrote. I don't care about the anatomy of a rexes skull, it isn't what we're debating.
sterile wigeon
hence why they're already planned to be ai only outside of sandbox
keen summit
Anyway, if Dondi decided to make something playable, i think he have a plan for it.
timber mason
That depends on what they would make the growth speed tbh. I'm not talking about the titans like Pue ect. Smaller sauropods that can be taken down by packs of allos like camara or diplo is more what I mean. I can't predict what Dondi will do with them. He wasn't going to make herbivores playable in the beginning and now they are so who knows.
drowsy orbit
nigersaurus is pretty boy
dim rain
Dinheirosaurus is as well.
timber mason
I prefer the nigersaurus, it's so derpy that it's beautiful
Amargasaurus and Shunasaurus are pretty cool too
dim rain
Yah Shunosaurus is a cool one as well.
lucid lance
spinophorosaurus tho oO
timber mason
Ooooh I like that one too, all of these are reasonably sized as well so they wouldn't be too slow and they could be hunted by lower tiers such as a pack of allos.
summer bolt
Ngl, the weak spot on apex carnivores will probably be the heart and lungs, not the head
Their brains were really tiny in relation to the skull, after all
Whereas the heart and lungs are a big target
tribal ore
yeah, headshots on large dinosaurs (particularly carnivores) wouldn't be very effective
summer bolt
Sauropods on the other hand
hollow flicker
Are you guys discussing differentiated damage zones?
summer bolt
They'll come tumbling down with one well placed bullet to the head
tribal ore
yeah, idk why
summer bolt
Just saw the subject above and decided to give my 2 cents
tribal ore
I'd love to go through a herd of pues with a sniper and just make all the titans fall before me
it'd make me feel powerful
I like power
hollow flicker
I'm interested to see how humans will develop
summer bolt
Or a big ol' machine gun mounted to a jeep
Fun until one falls on you
Or steps on you
tribal ore
I shot to the neck would mess them up too
summer bolt
Yeah
tribal ore
and that's a huge target
summer bolt
Huge arteries
hollow flicker
Would the like, soldier/scientist people be able to like, kidnap utahs and raptor squad-ify them? 🤔
summer bolt
Poor things will be helpless against guns
chrome reef
Make sauropods apex ai deterrents ez fix
summer bolt
That'd require a lot of co-ordination on the raptors' part, fox
hollow flicker
I was meaning more in a like, general sense. Like human-dinosaur interactions would be cool. Working together/working to break out of their like, field lab or whatever there might eventually maybe end up being and eat everyone
summer bolt
Well you can't foece the players to do anything too specific so it's really entirely dependant on them
The devs can provide the tools, but the players will decide whether or not those tools work
If that makes sense
hollow flicker
Yeah I dunno. I think if people foster a at least light roleplay theme people'd be interesting in exploring those sorts of scenarios
Just depends on the enviroment
sterile wigeon
Isn't that the idea of Khorne's server?'
hollow flicker
Dunno I'm a nub
sterile wigeon
Tribals will be able to 'tame' a dino, don't think we know of any merc-dino interactions that don't result in one of the two dead
dapper void
fyi sauropods were believed to have grown up really quickly and possibly reached sexual maturity with the first decade, then they keep on growing throughout the rest of its life, but probably a little slowly
if you played as a sauropod, you'd be almost fully grown by the time a human even does find a gun and the bullets to kill said sauropod, but a few measly bullets just to kill a sauropod when you could use it on something that is more willing to kill you? like say... an utah or a friggin giga for example? But you know, people like to be people and waste precious bullets on a dino that wouldn't be a threat to them
inner locust
juvi sauropod sounds like the worst thing to play in the game
you're small and cant outrun anything
its like dryo- but worse in every way
inner locust
and then you grow into the slowest and biggest targets in the game
sterile wigeon
Easy kills for mercs
sterile wigeon
Go through agonizing gameplay to play as something that is literally useless
dapper void
would you like to waste a bullet on a sauropod or protect yourself from an utah?
sterile wigeon
waste it on the sauropod
inner locust
i'm going to die anyway, might as well deck the sauropod who has went thru hell to grow up
gentle tangle
Doesn't matter what we'd do, it matters what other people who have time to waste and find more guns would do
dapper void
okay, have fun with an utah killing you and making you lose all your weapons and supplies
sterile wigeon
Man, isn't it so empowering to murder the biggest things in the game, Lemur?
inner locust
oh no i'll have to respawn and find another gun
dapper void
sucks to be you when that sauropod could just grow back in less than two hours or so
dapper void
take a look at the trike
sterile wigeon
Literally the only reasoning you need to kill a sauropod is "because you can"
dapper void
you can grow it in two hours
sterile wigeon
trike is also many times smaller than a sauropod
dapper void
I'd rather waste a bullet on a Rex that could only be gotten in seven hours lol
dapper void
like the fur on you, Lemur
solid galleon
all sauropods need to be viable is a pounce
frigid dragon
🤔
sterile wigeon
Wait, wuh
dapper void
so, remind me again why we're talking stuff like this in the stream discussions?
frigid dragon
Good question, le's move
inner locust
eh pue was shown on stream and don talking to bikeman about it coming to survival
its not too offtopic
frigid dragon
It's kinda starting to
solid galleon
give sauropods bleed with their stomp
sterile wigeon
Somebody thought Dondi confirmed sauropods as playable for survival in a stream chat
frigid dragon
oof
frigid dragon
Well, Sauropods are kinda like games that have an extra game mode or cheat that let you play as NPC's
It's fun for like...a few minutes.
inner locust
spectator cam but really slow
sterile wigeon
he's moved
jovial relic
i mean i liked playing as pue in survival every now and then
but it wasnt fun enough to main or anything
i think the people who play pue a lot are prob just sauropod lovers in general rather than ppl who actually like its gameplay
rich bay
I mean, I'm willing to give Brachi / Pue a try, as I'm one of those rare beans who enjoys being isolated from everyone else
jovial relic
ye
rich bay
Actually kinda exited to face the challenge of growing to adult as 1
rich bay
Eh, true, but that's what Dev Branch is for I suppose..to nail somethin down over time after release until it's ready for the main branch game
jovial relic
ye
but unless sauropod AI is getting life stages i dont see why dondi would pay money to get juvi and sub models just to see if they even work as playables
rich bay
Maybe both? who knows, he could'e figured out something for all we know
jovial relic
🤷
rich bay
The fact that he was actually playing as a Pue, rather than say, going over it on a test level map seems to say it's for Survival playing reasons..could be wrong though
jovial relic
if there was a fast-ish sauropod it might work tho
cuz a main issue with them i think was that they couldnt hide or run or fight humans who had ranged weapons
things like rex can outrun humans and hide in places like redwoods
but a sauropod cant rly do that, they gotta stay and fight
which doesnt work if a merc has a gun
they just stay out of range and shoot u
rich bay
Eh true..I guess we'll have to wait and see
jovial relic
but if there was a sauropod who was faster than a human (no idea if any are that fast) then maybe it would work
merry kernel
I'm kinda expecting Dondi to appear at some point and say "YOU ARE ALL WRONG, NO PUERTA." Just seems really unlikely for sauropods imo.
rich bay
Yea, I'm surprised too..but hey,I'm willing to give Brachi / Pue a try...Kind of a miracle for me personally..Always wished for just 1 playable Sauropod in the main game
I wonder how they solved the combat issue
I guess there are easy ways, like trample if you into its legs, or under it
That was a big thing really for anything..not being able to phase though another character will really improve combat
chrome reef
Being a sauropod has a special charm
I get pue every now and again
Its fun for a bit
Especially when noobs try to fight you
rich bay
^ Especially considering it'll be Brachi (Unless they use Pue instead)
chrome reef
I hope its brachi
jovial relic
Ye sauropods are definitely cool, but they're probably only meant to be cool things in the environment to look at, not something that should be playable unfortunately
chrome reef
Pues model is awful
rich bay
I could see Brachi's locomotion being an upgrade compared to Pue's
chrome reef
Yeah i really dont see an official sauropod life cycle happening
jovial relic
And they have a perfectly good brachi model
rich bay
I really hope there is an official life cycle...Can finally do the WWD thing ~Only with a Brachi, not a Diplo~
static parcel
Brachiosaurus is like the most iconic sauropod
and like, everyone else ive seen prefers it over puerta
rich bay
I do aswell
chrome reef
I wish it would could happen though. Reality is that any human will shoot a sauropod even if it does no benefit
rich bay
True..but should shit heads really be a determining factor in creating a game? ...Kinda don't wanna know anymore
chrome reef
The puerta in this game is also about twice its actual size and has the wrong neck
knotty wagon
Tbh I wouldn't mind a playable Sauropod, especially if it's brachi. Sure, the thought of just dying to a human still stands but it'd just be nice
rich bay
^^^
chrome reef
It really do be like dat
jovial relic
are there any sauropods that we're faster than humans, those would have the best chance I think
were
chrome reef
Apato lifecycle too
static parcel
juvenile sauropods should be faster than people just cause
rich bay
although if a powerhouse sauropod is fast than that could be op
chrome reef
"Kos sauropod REEEE"
jovial relic
😏
chrome reef
Just a 40 ft titan chasing you down making whale noises
rich bay
Lol...back in the old days when Pues used to chase you when you had a broken leg 
jovial relic
^
knotty wagon
Honestly though. A medium sized Sauropod would be great. Either camara or bronto.
And uh
Yeah
chrome reef
Medium allo killer should be sucho
static parcel
Ankys chasing things with broken legs was funny tbh
rich bay
^
knotty wagon
Water ankies bro
Water ankies
"Finally a lake, almost died of de-what the fuck is that in th-OH JESUS CHRIST ITS HONKING?!"
chrome reef
Apato with a threatening stomp where it rears back on its hind legs to intimidate predators like that scene from WWD
gilded sable
@knotty wagon I'm all for Camara being playable as long as it gets a major speed buff & a damage major nerf tbh. having at least one playable sauropod would be pretty cool imo. Maybe a size increase too; current camara sizes feels unusually small for some reason.
static parcel
camarasaurus is pretty generic for a sauropod. its not like it stands out in any way
diplo has the insane longboy tail
barren glacier
One big boi that grows horizontally and one that grows vertically
Brachio and Diplo ^^
gilded sable
I feel like Camara's the only sauropod that could be playable because devs could "cheat" with its speed and damage stats due to its size.
knotty wagon
I'm more inclined to bronto tbth. Necc spikes boi
gilded sable
as Dondi already said, large sauropods would just be sitting ducks for human players.
too big and too slow, no chance of camouflage when they're so large/tall.
knotty wagon
But camara would be great too
gilded sable
I wonder if bronto will still get in, hopefully it does. They have a model, but who knows if it's already considered to be outdated or scrapped.
static parcel
That would be a shame if it were to be scrapped
it looks cool with the neck spikes
imo some of these dinos that are only modeled are more deserving ingame than alberto is
rich bay
I mean, there must'e been something changed, or discovered to allow Brachi a chance to be added in
Like Bruce said earlier...Idrc if a Human head shots me and I have to restart.. A) that was just a waste of a bullet(s) on their part B) Just bringing attention to themselves C) Are they that skilled to get a headshot? Or are they actually trash?
static parcel
when you try to shoot at a sauropod from a distance then suddenly there could be a dilo stalking you from that bush behind you
rich bay
^
static parcel
if there is suddenly large playerbases for dilo and utah, that may be tougher for humans
rich bay
Once Utah gets its pounce,I'm sure there'll be Utahs everywhere..likewise a lot more common than they are now, so in a way, yea I believe so
static parcel
humans also aint gonna take bleeding well at all after bitten by dilos
if they aren't already instakilled by them
rich bay
^
ancient warren
Diplo gets those crazy spines on it's tail and does a shit ton of bleed 
mental vault
Unless bleed changes
static parcel
That lean serpentine build is good at stalking inside large bushes on humans
mental vault
Like that hopeful thing where you only go down to like 5% health if you lay day
static parcel
especially if one color customizes dilo skin as green
mental vault
*lay down
solid galleon
diplo pounce ftw
gilded sable
@rich bay regarding brachi, I wouldn't be surprised if its replacing pue altogether due to it being a more iconic dinosaur overall. though what really intrigues me is what Dondi said in Bikeman's twitch stream a few days ago, that apparently all dinosaurs would be playable in survival at some point. Though it's possible that he just phrased it wrong or something, and that sauropods and tinier dinosaurs like oro and taco still won't be playable (that's probably more likely tbh.) Though if sauropods do end up being playable, then the most likely assumption is that ammo and other strong weapons are just going to be THAT scarce for humans to find/create/use.
rich bay
Yea, I figured Brachi would replace Pue..I just said both because I didn't want to assume at first that Brachi would be going in..cus like... It'd turn into a "How would I know that" situation..And yea, that doesn't sound right..Iirc, everything that goes into Survival needs to have something unique about it that sets it apart from the rest..That is unless that's out of date now
coarse tapir
What happened to nonplayable sauropods
At this rate all dinosaurs are going to be added into survival before we even get unique mechanics for them 
Weren't only unique dinosaurs supposed to be added for survival
rich bay
Who knows about the Brachi thing..Could've just been a case of unintentional misleading wording, or maybe Brachi's the new exception 🤷
coarse tapir
Feels a bit jumbled atm
rich bay
Ye
coarse tapir
I doubt 90% Of the dinosaurs added and going to be added into survival even have any ideas for unique mechanics that would set then apart to be worthy of survival
ancient warren
we needs herra
coarse tapir
Or at least any concrete ones
static parcel
It's honestly weird that we already have 2 hadrosaurs and 2 ceratopsians in survival before we have yet to get a stegosaur or ankylosaur
or pachy
coarse tapir
Like the first ones that were added already have ideas
static parcel
thats not really diverse just yet
tropic patrol
We have two ceratopsians
so why not two raptors?
BRING IN AUSTRO
AND HERRE BECAUSE WHY NOT
coarse tapir
Except for rex because all I heard was a trash compactor bite but isn't that basically what it does by nature anyway unless it's a separate attack?
static parcel
I don't get that both of our ceratopsians are horned
at least why not pachyrhino being one of those 2
rich bay
Herra and Austro would basically be dryos..Small, rather defenseless animals
static parcel
though, having both pachyrhino and pachycephalo, dunno how that'll work.
coarse tapir
For carno we got the speed based damage, which imo would feel incomplete without proper acceleration added (Not just start up and stop momentum)
ancient warren
herra is not defenseless
coarse tapir
Trike has a charge
ancient warren
fast as shit and really good an juking
static parcel
Ceratosaurus eating all the rotten shit that others cant eat
static parcel
I still don't know
coarse tapir
But other than those there aren't really any ideas or any concrete ideas for the rest that are in or to be added
static parcel
Allosaurus' hook
for survival
I mean at first id think its ideal to just delete giga and have allo be the bleeder-dude
coarse tapir
Ceratos gimmick is lame tbh
ancient warren
gonna be honest i agree
coarse tapir
Just able to get some extra food?
That doesn't even support it's honeybadger like playstyle
rich bay
Cerato's the Dollar Tree off-brand to Rex
ancient warren
^^^
coarse tapir
Why not give it a rage mechanic like thought up of earlier where it can tank more and more the more hurt it is and it does more damage as well
ancient warren
smaller rex
topaz zephyr
@static parcel Pachyrhino has a model, though due to being Vlads (I believe), it'll likely end up being re-done.
coarse tapir
Something that supports it's playstyle and is actually pretty cool
ancient warren
it color flushes it's crest a different color
topaz zephyr
I don't remember who made it, but it was a long while ago.
coarse tapir
Why in any existence ever would the ability to get slightly more food from rotten food be better than a rage mechanic like that
rich bay
The Pachyrhino looks too realistic to have been made by Vlad lol 
coarse tapir
But like I said
This inclusion of dinosaurs to survival and future ones confirmed to be added seems to be rushed without much thought for the original idea of survival that everyone loved and in general
rich bay
Maybe it's because Dondi and the gang already know the idea of the ones released, and are choosing not to release that info yet
rich bay
Idk why they wouldn't but
rich bay
I thought Cerato's idea was changed to be a small scale tanker boi?
ancient warren
i liked that
coarse tapir
Doesn't confirm anything just a random concept
ancient warren
sad
rich bay
Tbf, the Herrera tree climb wasn't accepted as an actual mechanic yet atleast
coarse tapir
We will see in the future but
coarse tapir
It feels like more and more dinosaurs are just being shit into survival
Instead if getting all well thought out and unique ones in there and then working on the mechanics
Of course it's just assumptions but I feel like mechanics for the dinosaur gimmicks and in general are being put on the backburner until they are finished with adding things to survival
But I don't see that stopping anytime soon since they are planning on adding so many for some reason
Like why is pue/brachi all of a sudden a confirmed or somewhat confirmed candidate for survival
Even though dondi mentioned tons of times how they are "boring" to play and wouldn't work well, not to mention any idea of a unique gimmick
rich bay
I mean.. IF it is, is that really a bad thing? Brachi would be something completely unique from the rest of the playables
coarse tapir
Yeah but doesn't seem to be too well thought out
It's easy for them to say "well we don't have a sauropod so let's add brachi"
Not as easy to tell everything else including their gimmick
I'm not saying it shouldn't be added, or anything else for that matter
But they need to have set out reasons to be in the game and fit into the balance as well as have something unique to it that really adds to it's fun factor
Needs to be worth playing and not fuck up the rest of the "ecosystem" or game balance
rich bay
Ye I getcha
coarse tapir
You can see the problems I mean with those last two blurps with allo and cerato right now
Allo is supposed to be a "persistence" hunter and it's supposed to be unique stat-wise by having high stam
rich bay
Ye..Only things that can currently counter them with effect is Giga and Trike..Rex too if it's good
coarse tapir
But persistence doesn't really work or make much sense with almost every dinosaur in the game and it's stamina isn't even that much better at all compared to a lot of other dinosaurs
Same with maia and para
Why does maia exist if para exists
Everyone just goes "idunno"
Or something weak like "It's slightly faster but weaker"
rich bay
Maia'll probably have something in regards to nesting..That's practically in its name "Mother Dinosaur"
solid galleon
variety
coarse tapir
Variety isn't really a reason when it's barely different to say its varied
Just because it has a different look and sound doesn't really make it worth
Id probably be saying something different if they both had confirmed and good gimmicks to actually set them apart and make them equally fun
But they don't just like most dinosaurs added or going to be added recently
gleaming epoch
i guess we'll just have to wait and see, the devs have been making a lot of progress recently and they have a lot on their plates. Dondi just doesnt share everything with us so it may seem like it doesnt add up
lunar birch
Yep. Remember, dev branch is for testing, not everything works perfectly or makes total sense.
jovial relic
^
gray ermine
@coarse tapir "Why does maia exist if para exists"
Because people don't wanna be locked to 1 Dino of a specific category
Besides it would be a good idea to have 3 dinos on each tier with similar niches
Not everything can hunt Para, so here is something similar that other things can hunt
If there was just 1 animal per niche, sorry to say, but that would be extremely boring
Whatever the Niche Para and Maia fill
It would go like:
Small Tier: ???
Medium Tier: Maia
Large Tier: Para
So the roster isn't super boring and small
coarse tapir
How does that make any sense
if there was just 1 animal per niche it would be fine
because they would play the same because of the same niche
maia and para are so barely different that they basically are in the same niche except for the fact that 2 creatures can hunt a maia that can't hunt a para
Why make a different dinosaur if they fill the same niche? Wouldn't it just be the same thing if it was a skin change?
And it doesn't seem like many people care about being "locked to 1 dino of a specific category". 90% of the playerbase just goes for the creature that is more relevant / able to survive, and some people just pick different ones because they like that specific dinosaur or just want to "switch it up", but it's almost the same anyway so it doesn't actually matter
Plus it divides the playerbase within a same species which I could argue is a bad thing for herbivores, even if it wouldnt be now it could easily be in the future with diets, etc.
gray ermine
Dude you realize this is a Video Game right..?
gray ermine
People want it to be fun lol
coarse tapir
Dude
It would be just as fun with just para anyway lol
if they are effectively the same is almost every way then it doesn't really matter
it's obviously not going to be removed now that it has been added
gray ermine
Literally never even once before people started talking about "Niches" did I hear someone complain that dinos needed niches
Who cares if things play similarly?????
Why are you being so damn picky
coarse tapir
but my main argument is that there wasn't enough thought put into adding maia when para existed with giving it a unique niche and having a concrete idea on what gimmicks they would have to make them stand out and both be equally very unique and fun
I'm fine with things like maia being in the game with para
as long as it's done right
It's obviously a hard thing to do considering the similarity of the dinosaurs at face value
but it's not impossible
Hopefully everything will be properly balanced and given an actually good gimmick in the future instead of turning out to be just a random extra added for whatever reason
gray ermine
Added to flesh out the roster a bit maybe?
Would you rather have like 8 Dinos that play totally unique
Or
Would you rather have like 20-30 Dinos that play kinda similarly
coarse tapir
Adding maia as it is now takes away from para's uniqueness as a creature in survival and possibly limits gimmick ideas (although this gimmick point applies better to other dinosaurs a bit better)
8 dinosaurs that play totally unique
Quality > quantity
that was the whole point of survival
and you could have more than 8
as long as a great gimmick can be given to it and it can play or fit into the balance in a fun and unique spot then I don't see any reason why it shouldnt be added
gray ermine
Well when you boil it down so simply.
Whats the point of Allo when we have Giga? Fast Bleeder Niche
Whats the Point of Utah when we have Carno? Hit and Run Niche
Whats the point of Cerato when we have Rex? Tanky heavy hitter Niche
coarse tapir
but as it stands there are a few dinosaurs that were added and are planned to be added that don't have one or even both of those
2 of those points are wrong
the first one makes sense
but that wouldn't be true if it was given a proper fit and good gimmick (which currently it doesnt have and it doesnt' seem like allo has anything planned for a gimmick atm)
drowsy orbit
utah is pounce
coarse tapir
Utah and carno aren't comparable
drowsy orbit
it's supposed to
coarse tapir
at least in how they are meant to fit
gray ermine
Well it doesnt
drowsy orbit
planned and actually confirmed mechanic
coarse tapir
which means they have an actual plan and are already pretty different
unlike something like allo / giga
drowsy orbit
@gray ermine like you said it's dev branch, things arent done
coarse tapir
cerato / rex is a bit more similar than utah / carno
gray ermine
What is Carnos "Niche"
drowsy orbit
and plus if Utah was solely going to be "hit and run", it's anatomy wouldn't need to have been changed so drastically from the real thing
coarse tapir
but cerato is obviously trying to fit in a small scavenger / bully niche but it isn't really super well done atm
coarse tapir
plus it's gimmick is being able to eat rotten meat which IMO is a pretty lame gimmick that doesnt expand upon that niche or playstyle
Carno, presumably, is a small prey hunter / juvenile hunter but it's in a hazy place. Utah, looking at it currently and better-than-other-dinosaurs outlined plan will fit as a pack hunting playstyle
with a pounce and buff / nerf based on how many utahraptors you have with you that improves pack work
coarse tapir
That's not the niche's problem, that's a problem with how the game lacks mechanics to limit that
That's like saying that everything in the game is the same because they are in megapacks
pliant dew
Dinosaurs do feel a bit too samey right now
coarse tapir
where that is a problem with a lack of megapack control in the form of a mechanic
pliant dew
Allosaurus isn't as much of a jack-of-all-trades as he used to be
coarse tapir
rather than a problem with well done stats / gimmicks to fit a fun and unique niche / playstyle
pliant dew
He's basically just an upsized slower Dilophosaurus, what with low impact and high bleed
knotty wagon
and bb
gray ermine
Humans are pack hunters and social
It's in our nature to try to group up with others
A solitary creature is kind of flawed for most humans to play without getting bored quick
coarse tapir
Because apparently people just get super bored in any singleplayer game ever
just because they don't have someone around
gray ermine
🤦
knotty wagon
not everyones a social nut either
gray ermine
Except this game isnt***' a story drivin fps or platformer
gray ermine
I get bored as fuck playing this game alone
coarse tapir
and you could argue the forest isn't necessarily story driven
gray ermine
Most others do to
coarse tapir
since the story is optional and vague
gray ermine
Thats one of the reasons why people pack up
coarse tapir
yet I don't get bored by being alone in the forest
gray ermine
That game looked very boring..
Seems like one of those "Only fun with friends" kind of games
coarse tapir
and plus, if the gameplay was better than it was currently (Which isn't the centerpiece of the argument atm because we are talking about survival additions rather than gameplay that is slowly progressing to be better) then you wouldn't get bored playing alone
I don't get bored playing alone
until I have to sit in a bush or walk around for hours with nothing
that's not a problem with lack of friends to play with
that's a lack of things to do / engaging gameplay
gray ermine
Yeah thats my point... This isnt a story drivin game or a platformer. There is Nothing do to if you dont have other players around
coarse tapir
Playing solo isn't boring because it's solo, the only reason I assume you think being around other people makes it less boring is because you have an ingame text chat
It doesn't need a story or platformer aspect to be fun solo, it's not a problem with lack of friends to play with like I said, it's a lack of polished and complete gameplay\
knotty wagon
the game will have a story behind it as well
coarse tapir
which i'm not complaining about because EA
and gameplay is something that is in from the start and is slowly progressed over the development of an entire game
rather than a few small decisions and smart additions within a month or two
Also the fact that you said the forest looked really boring to you says a lot tbh
because my argument with that proved my point but your own preference that obviously isn't everyone's preference dismissed it as boring just because you wouldn't have another player (even though you can do COOP in that game)
Like I already said before in these conversations and this one a few times
I'm fine with anything being added into survival
even if there is another dinosaur already in that part of the same family and similar body plan, etc. like maia / para
but I think the way some have been added and some have been confirmed for survival feels rushed rather than really well thought out with a proper position in survival and a good idea of what gimmick it might have in the future
but as it stands with the maia / para comparison, maia is basically just a somewhat faster but somewhat weaker para with no planned or maybe not even thought of gimmick yet, and the same thing can be said for para with an idea of a gimmick that would add to the dinosaur and solidify some fun and unique playstyle / place to fit in the game's balance / "ecosystem"
I assume or at least hope that things like that will be properly addressed and improved in the future before or probably even after more somewhat arbitrary dinosaurs are added
phew 
candid yoke
this game is boring when you're alone
playing as herbi alone is really lame tbh and when you play alone as a carni the excitement mostly comes from hunting, which involve other players, if you would be only hunting the AI we have right now, you would get bored really quick
imagine starting your own private server to be alone and start growing a trike, would it really be that fun?
ancient warren
Kinda why I’m hoping Ai herbivores form herbs depending on the species
And that way you can join those and such
timber mason
I quite like playing alone and do so a lot of the time. When I play herb, I like to be something that doesn't rely on a large group for protection but is strong enough to hold it's own. I think that's why I liked sauropods and anky's so much.
Plus it's pretty epic when you're in a group of 5 sauropods moving as a herd.
I understand what you mean by the lack of variety though
Trike is the same as diablo and maia is the same as para. I don't feel like there's a lot of variety for herb players currently. Less so than the carnivores.
formal harness
you are developing the cannibal if yes when it will be ready
sterile wigeon
no etas
inner creek
ty aliens
drowsy orbit
Ooo
raw pawn
awww 😃 I hope don is havin a good time
swift pasture
Streaming some of the isle tonigt come join ! https://www.twitch.tv/araess
limpid glade
true crest
limpid glade
limpid glade
final hare
I hope another dev stream happens soon.
swift cliff
The wait will be rewarded lol
knotty wagon
yeah everyone gets to see dons daughter out-smarting and out-sassing him
swift cliff
Oh is he on his way back home with her?
solid galleon
yeah has dondi been on a trip lately?
swift cliff
He was on vacation. But I guess he’s heading back? Idk wait for Ark’s response lol
knotty wagon
back already
swift cliff
Ah
knotty wagon
Sass ²
knotty wagon
Steam when? 👀
pliant sundial
🤷
pliant sundial
hopefully
solid galleon
now that dondi is back, things are gonna pick up now
pliant sundial
Dondi said Stream Tonight yesterday but I aint gonna complain. Life gets in the way and he probably wants to spend time with his daughter. So I can't blame the man
swift cliff
And Dondi is in Vegas so..... he usually streams at like 2, 3 or 4 in the morning my time
solid galleon
same
solid galleon
finally a stream
winged crest
Did someone say stream??
winged crest
So excited, something to watch and art to
chrome reef
Its here!
pseudo frost
same goes here , he usually streams when I go to slee- oh c'mon Don you already have to prove me wrong?
jovial sigil
pliant dew
rip ae-012 😦
tropic patrol
Oofia!
winged crest
Oof, the tail givin' sass to IK
winged crest
That was from a past stream, correct?
tiny nexus
this stream
knotty wagon
isn't group spawning just nesting?
spare tide
Can’t watch atm, anything particularly interesting happening?
winged crest
Mostly IK with different dinosaurs atm
granite rose
Ew, that leg
winged crest
This hurts me
frozen sky
whats that song?
winged crest
Not sure
mental vault
It'd b funny if maia's gimmick was that it affinity doesn't go down when tamed
tiny nexus
winged crest
Mono, pachyrhino, plateo, cory, those have all been scrapped if I'm recalling correctly
knotty wagon
i would imagin any thing that had a model has a folder.
winged crest
Or they're not priority and will be worked in the far future, who knows at this point
coarse raptor
winged crest
^
knotty wagon
Cept that deino folder >:]
knotty wagon
Croc boi lives.
coarse raptor
I can't wait, if Deino really will be a playable I'll have my new main
tawdry pivot
Deino is one of the last animal I'm hyped for
coarse raptor
I'm a sap, a total sucker, completely defenseless... against crocodilians
Baby crocs are my puppies
tawdry pivot
you're thinking wrong.
frozen sky
not that theyve been added
😄
or get added
but they started to work on them at one point
so they need a folder
hybrid pawn
Just wait and see. It's not worth getting your hopes up over things that could not even be planned anymore or things that may not even be coming anymore. It's easy to set yourself up for disappointment that way. Things will happen when they do. Everything is subject to change.
coarse raptor
Very, very true. Gotta try and keep my croc obsession in check
pearl lance
When the beat drops
coarse raptor
That shit's funny right there
HNMT...
If you swap those around to TMNH you get..
Teenage Mutant Ninja Humans?
winged crest
So.. cannibals
umbral bronze
Teenage Mutant Ninja Hamsters
winged crest
I don't know why, but you almost made me spit out my coffee all over my cintiq
coarse raptor
@hybrid pawn I do the exact same thing at work - skip lunch to go home an hour early
Screw staying later when I can go home and pig out in the privacy and comfort of my own home.
#hermitlife
winged crest
Oof, wish I could do that
mental vault
Hypo power
winged crest
If you don't take the option to eat they throw MREs at us
coarse raptor
I work in a lame office job. It's a wholesaler of Anheuser-Busch... I don't even drink. I just print signs, design billboards, semi truck art, stuff like that. They don't give a crap if I don't want my lunch break in order to leave early
winged crest
Same with being mission essential military. No early leave for lunch for you!
coarse raptor
Anything to get back to being a dino amirite?
Oh that's right! That's a much more amicable profession :D Thank you for your service!
Now before I go too off topic Man dinosaurs are great aren't they?
winged crest
Probably one of my favorite things to watch is oddly enough.. map work
coarse raptor
It's hella cool
thick elbow
my worst nightmare
coarse raptor
I don't know if Dondi's taking map suggestions but man, wouldn't it be spiffy if there was a lagoon with a waterfall, and behind that lagoon was a cave you could reside in?
winged crest
Hah, just brings the conversation back in line and less... random to put it.. nicely
civic comet
That moment Dondi listens to soundtrack from Pocahontas.
coarse raptor
He did?! I can't listen to his stream at work XD What song?
civic comet
and I realise that ''Oh this is Clocksworth singing"
wide herald
I knew it sounded like a Disney song.
civic comet
"My land" I think it is called.
coarse raptor
LOL
civic comet
Where they dig for gold
coarse raptor
That's a great one
civic comet
I didnt fkn know the english voice actor is the same for Clocksworth xD
coarse raptor
Oddly fitting 
winged crest
@coarse raptor Also, thanks for your support
civic comet
The longer I think Dondi listens to the song (it's the third it's played now) the more posh he gets.
flint pine
oh hey is this the new music for in-game?
winged crest
Hah
flint pine
lol
civic comet
XD
winged crest
Ya made me chuckle
civic comet
Soon enough he will arm dinos with shovels and make them dance in sync..
coarse raptor
Nah, I am too - it seems to cut off for a bit here and there
civic comet
me too
coarse raptor
Familiar to anyone?
civic comet
Yeaaap
winged crest
Yeah, I get the same
civic comet
It must be a code to the Matrix, QUICK - TO THE BATMOBILE
final hare
Same
coarse raptor
nyooms
winged crest
Seems to be alright now
coarse raptor
Yeah, mine's better too
civic comet
LION KING
winged crest
!!!
final hare
Stampede
coarse raptor
Oh boy
civic comet
Nrrrrrrrrr!! VRRRRR
that is all i hear.. like.. when you watch those satisfying videos of machine cut stuff..
final hare
Strings?
civic comet
Oh, should have added that I meant what Dondi is doing to the mountains.. xD
coarse raptor
LOL
winged crest
You know when you flip a table?
coarse raptor
It's like a piece of cheese with weird bites out of it
winged crest
He's flippin a table
keen summit
same thing lol
coarse raptor
Er, now it's just flat
winged crest
How dare you
coarse raptor
It's as flat as my singing 
civic comet
What is Dondi planning... Football field or some shit!?
winged crest
10/10 would pay to watch Galli's vs Carno football/soccer
coarse raptor
Oh my god, rocket league but with dinosaurs
civic comet
HAHAH OMG
keen summit
Mesa confirmed
civic comet
I'd play that.. xD
coarse raptor
^
winged crest
UGH this song
civic comet
Trike bulldozer...
final hare
Knew it lol
coarse raptor
What's he playing? o_o
civic comet
Is it Snow White?
knotty wagon
oh shit...
civic comet
NO...
final hare
Land before time.
knotty wagon
my Soul's status:
being torn appart
civic comet
Miss old animations ❤ it was so beautiful
winged crest
That movie destroyed me as a kid and is destroying me now.. Must..muster.. resilience training..
coarse raptor
Don Bluth's style of animation is godly
I love how everyone's freaking out in the twitch stream chat
civic comet
xD
winged crest
DONDI NO
civic comet
Noooooo
flint pine
oh my god
coarse raptor
DONDI. PLEASE. ITS FRIDAY. DONT MAKE ME SAD
winged crest
Pls
civic comet
The twitch chat (and this one) is gonna do the collapsing thing where the body can't handle anything..
keen summit
RIP?
winged crest
Something tells me he's.. looking..something up
winged crest
Safe drive
coarse raptor
I'll be back after my drive home! Thank you :D Lemme know if I missed anything extra good! Or sad
winged crest
C wilco
hollow flicker
Is he actually done or is he fucking with people
hollow flicker
knotty wagon
strong pike
what happened in the stream? i couldnt see it i came too late ;-;
winged crest
IK and map work
hollow flicker
I think there's technical difficulties?
winged crest
Demolished a mountain
civic comet
<shrugs> He evaporated. I'm out tho. Peace and cucumbers
sullen arch
Oof lol
winged crest
And made the masses cry
brisk raptor
streams back
winged crest
Thanks for the heads up
strong pike
for me it says offline. what do i do now?
winged crest
Hmm
winged crest
There we go
knotty wagon
so what's happenign? he's adding stuff for V3?
strong pike
is it normal if its loading? im pretty new to using twitch. i just got it for some mods
hollow flicker
"Expect some minor systems to go up and down." Gar steals all the strain embryos then gets eaten by dilos
strong pike
oh it just loaded
hollow flicker
Still loading on my end too ;3;
strong pike
i just exited the stream and rejoined it
winged crest
Black screen for anyone?
strong pike
i think my stream just cut off
oh nvm
whats going on in the stream? i just see a purple screen and some music
knotty wagon
well I guess it's back now
knotty wagon
well it's For Honor thing...
pls don't be a weeb or a neckbread
pls don't be a weeb or a neckbread...
winged crest
Never have I ever watched this game be played. First for me.
knotty wagon
@sterile wigeon how about you say it to my face?
knotty wagon
Well, knights are best...
sterile wigeon
RIP all of Japan and any Scandinavian countries
hollow flicker
What an exquisite meme
pliant dew
invoke the glory of rome
knotty wagon
too bad he's too laggy
hollow flicker
Stream over? I got up to get a snack and now he's hosting someone else
rich sparrow
Centurion is the best
knotty wagon
Stun locking that stops for a 7 second death cutescene
Lawbringer is better
sips ledge tears
trail jackal
Ledgelord is best
knotty wagon
Ledgebringer best
trail jackal
your ledge skills cannot compare
knotty wagon
good thing they nerfed Shrekgoki's throw
the one where he just clubed you
into space
trail jackal
All you lawbringers do is nuke people
knotty wagon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sorry that we don't get tired of winning
Best execution in the game is shugoki smash
oof
trail jackal
no wtf
knotty wagon
I prefer the neck break tho
trail jackal
RKO warlord is best
knotty wagon
Straight up tosses you like a bag of potatoes
this is now a For Honor thiccboys channel
trail jackal
watchout watchout watchout
trail jackal
I miss Valk boob grab
knotty wagon
Valkyrie is bae