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#isle-lore-theories
icy onyx
pure zodiac
Some of us theorize it looks like a massive factory.
The Replicator? To a degree yes.
We just, don't know what it is outside of 'big and god-like'
neon bloom
just seen so much cool sounding lore and just kinda assumed most of it was fan-made
pure zodiac
Replicator is one of the biggest mysteries outside of maybe the Matriarch.
neon bloom
srry if im asking alot of already answered questions
icy onyx
Yeah same this shit is new to me
pure zodiac
It was/is to be something along the lines of the 'finale' of the game.
Starts smaller than a compy.
Grows to be bigger than a pue.
pure zodiac
Just some random ass bones.
pure zodiac
The devs said it's not the Matriarch.
pure tulip
I'm gonna talk about more of the strains and the replicator but first I need to feed my cats.
(Not really my cats, but still. I will consider it as my cats.)
So, the Strains might be the replicated clone to ours Dinos. Which that might open for me an another dimension.
I might be wrong.
I'm gonna revisit The Isle Lore again because I forgot lot.
pure zodiac
Well the strains are.. weird.
We have no idea why they exist or how the came to be.
All we truly know is, they aren't accidental mutations.
AE, or whoever made 'em, deliberately made monsters.
pure zodiac
Firstly, we say Hypers here.
Also yes, strains are Hypers.
neon bloom
oh sorry, hypers
pure zodiac
Tisso is..
A mystery.
The only official artwork be have of a tisso dinosaur is a very old Tisso rex design.
Tisso is short for Tissoplastic.
neon bloom
but what actually are the strains/ what do they do
pure zodiac
Well.
neon bloom
like i dont know much about the magna rex
pure zodiac
Hyper is simple, they're the big tough guys with armor and they need to eat a lot.
neon bloom
yep
pure zodiac
Tisso are the camoflauging speed demons that can probably shapeshift to a degree, however the devs said that Tisso would be heavily changed to where it's a 'you don't know Tisso the way you think you know it'
Neuro are the jellyfish lookin' dinosaurs that (confirmed btw) exist in a hivemind.
neon bloom
i see
pure zodiac
Magna is just a smaller less hungry Hyper.
pure tulip
People sometimes say that the Magna is the protector of the ecosystem.
pure zodiac
I never heard of that in this channel.
pure tulip
I heard it In the Isle discussions but I don't think that true.
neon bloom
sounds a little more comforting than "camoflauging speed demons"
celest marten
magnas are the perfect organism, while type-h are meant to die
pure zodiac
Chika isn't wrong though.
pure tulip
Yeah, kinda.
pure zodiac
Hypers have a metabolism so high they're destined to die someday.
Physically, Hypers are stronger than Magnas.
But Magnas are slightly smarter.
neon bloom
ooh
celest marten
well type h are stronger but magnas has the chance to kill hypers
pure zodiac
So it's a 50/50 battle.
Also, we have talked about the supposed anti-hyper weapon.
It came down to two weapons.
One for smaller Hypers.
One for the giants.
pure tulip
The replicator will reward you if you do a certain thing or sacrificing something, which I think will give powers, make you a strain or a different type of creature we didn't know yet.
pure zodiac
For smaller Hypers: It's some sort of heavy caliber armor-piercing rifle, or an RPG of some kind.
For the big'uns (especially H-Spino): We suspect it to be a massive railgun-type emplacement.
pure tulip
Also, I think AE have a very good Technology like in King of the Monsters if they can contain the Hypers easily, or using simply strategies.
If they want to put weapons on Hypers, why would they do that then? Would they using it for war or just for experience.
pure zodiac
No no.
These weapons are made to kill Hypers.
And, who said it was easy to obtain? 
pure zodiac
Oh knows if the weapon theory is still a thing tho.
pure zodiac
No no it was something Dondi mentioned a long time ago.
pure tulip
Was it in the early days of The Isle?
pure tulip
4 years my guessing.
pure zodiac
As it was after the second time they brought H-Rex into the game.
pure tulip
I think it is scratched.
It is not really going to fit a bit in the game in my opinion if they had the old tech.
icy onyx
Guys remember the Strain Trees?
icy onyx
Hmm shall we put together a list of places / items that appear in the lore to try and piece a storyline together
Right so we know
Strain Trees
Replicator
pure tulip
It's kinda early though, and it might be scratched, but I hope not.
icy onyx
Anyone have any other contributions
celest marten
look under "pinned messages"
icy onyx
Oh and the underwater factory is a cool thing to discuss as well
It’s not confirmed but it might happen
Maybe the underwater factory/ lab is the Replicator
pure tulip
Yeah, but why he would be there? My excuse, sir.
icy onyx
Well we know there is a factory underwater
We also know that the Replicator is still online
pure tulip
Typhon? My apologies but I to be honest didn't hear it before.
pure zodiac
Typhon is what I call the Hypendocrin Colossus.
Typhon, in Greek myth, is basically Godzilla.
pure tulip
Oh, the Colossus.
pure zodiac
Giant monster, firey breath, general near-impossible to kill factor.
pure tulip
Thought you were talking about another God like Creator.
pure zodiac
Only difference is Godzilla is a lizard.
And Typhon is a human with snake feet (like, thousands of snakes), and bird wings.
icy onyx
And it’s also the height of the sky.
pure zodiac
Ye
icy onyx
Yeah
pure zodiac
But yeah I made the connection after I realized something.
icy onyx
Gaia is also a place
pure zodiac
Typhon = H-Colossus
Tartarus = The Island
Gaia = The Replicator
pure tulip
Oh, and the Mother of Cannibals.
icy onyx
But yeah Tartarus and Gaia are both primordial gods which are like places manifesting themselves one god form
pure zodiac
Mother of Cannibals is Echidna
No no.
Gaia is a person/titan
Tartarus was always a place.
pure tulip
Oh, I forgot her name again. My apologies.
pure zodiac
Is fine.
icy onyx
Gaia is literally Earth
pure zodiac
Eeehhh.. no.
pure zodiac
Do you want me to just, show you the Typhon vid?
pure tulip
I'm kinda thinking that Dondi going to reset the Lore and starting it from scratch or editing it on heavily.
pure zodiac
Possible.
pure tulip
Very possible.
pure zodiac
Evrima is gonna change everything.
icy onyx
But this is offtopic... anyways I want to try and find out how the replicator works
pure zodiac
But.. The Replicator could be a massive factory
A massive factory, that makes monsters.
pure tulip
Dondi also mentioned this in his old stream, 1 year ago or 2 I think.
icy onyx
In a very flawed way yes but it can make new humans
pure zodiac
Yeah supposedly that's an altar to the Replicator.
pure tulip
Where here you do sacrifices and give you the deal. (Maybe I shouldn't use that word.)
pure zodiac
(Also Kanga Imma link you the vid one sec)
pure tulip
Would you link it to me too? I'm interested.
pure zodiac
👌
icy onyx
Maybe the replicator is going to be a map?
pure zodiac
Mayyyybeee
You can find PIECES of the Replicator in a map
Because it's supposedly so goddamn big it's part of all the islands.
icy onyx
Or maybe it will be a huge sprawling city sized machine underneath all the islands we play on.
pure tulip
Speacially on AE-002
icy onyx
but again something that big would need a power source.
pure zodiac
I'm suspecting it's a combination of ki, sacrifices, and thermal energy.
icy onyx
Well let’s see what can the replicator harvest from bodies?
pure zodiac
We already know The Isle has, to a degree, some sort of magic in it.
pure tulip
Kinda of.
pure zodiac
Like, nearing SCP-levels of magic.
icy onyx
It could probably harvest chemicals and hormones
pure zodiac
Probs
icy onyx
You know the static devices?
I think that the buildings near the static devices are small components in the Replicator.
pure tulip
If the Replicator will make you stronger if sacrifice yourself and make you stronger or even make you a Monster....about the Monster though. If the Strains are from AE then... is the Replicator made Creatures we didn't know of? Which I think this is false.
Or a communication to the Replicator.
icy onyx
I don’t really understand what you are saying Andrew
pure zodiac
Funnily enough we've actually discussed the reason behind you getting static at certain buildings.
pure tulip
About the Replicator or the communication one?
pure zodiac
It came down to a combination of pheromone generators and frequency machines.
pure tulip
Yup. Forgot about that one.
pure zodiac
Pheromone generators line the buildings, and when the dinosaur inhales the pheromone they get a scent of 'back off'.
icy onyx
oh good idea
pure zodiac
The frequency machines play in with the fact all non-nested dinos have tracking devices.
icy onyx
And the frequency generators is the replicator hacking the dinos brain and giving them a weird static thing
pure tulip
Which we are all involved in the Lore.
pure zodiac
Eh no.
It's more a machine
Inside the building.
That generates a frequency dinosaurs can 'hear' but we can't.
icy onyx
That still doesn’t explain the static though.
pure tulip
Your eyes too.
pure zodiac
They also mess with the neurons in your brain.
Ever heard about the guy that became blind from being hit with an EMP?
icy onyx
I am a follower of the theory that dinos have human minds in them.
And I believe the replicator puts the mind inside the dinosaurs they clone
digital vale
Are those statics actually... canon? Weren't they originally used to "warn" players which area is unfinished?
pure zodiac
That's what the frequency machines are doing, but at a sustained rate and with less power.
The static does have lore in it.
pure tulip
I'm a bit confused, could you link to some videos explains it more because I struggled to find one.
pure zodiac
Which is actually a benefit to being nested, in lore nested dinos don't have trackers.
Therefore, no static.
Also, sadly Andrew but there are no vids on this stuff.
All these theories originate here.
icy onyx
So the replicator injects Dino with Strains
pure zodiac
Possible. Or just clones the original Strains.
pure tulip
Maybe you can explain to me In the Dms if you would like too or here more in depth.
pure zodiac
Hell, remember the loading screens mentioning Alphonse?
icy onyx
Oh yeah the hyper Quetz
pure zodiac
Aka H-Quetz.
icy onyx
aka Alfie
pure zodiac
Yeah, the loading screen legit says to NOT clone
icy onyx
It’s Missing in Action.
pure zodiac
Because it was so damn successful at escaping.
icy onyx
Talla are you a follower of the Human Mind Inside Dinosaur theory?
icy onyx
Oh I have an idea!
This is a very raw idea but what if the human minds are dead humans who paid money to live on as humans.
digital vale
Are there any evidences what happened to Alfie at the end? Like, we know he escaped and is roaming one of the PCE maps, but, did he die, or was he caught again?
Or anything else?
icy onyx
Before they die their mind is transferred to Tartarus and then when they die the Replicator injects their mind into a dinosaur so they can live on again
Maybe it’s a plan to try and save humanity from extinction by implanting them into a stronger species?
pure zodiac
icy onyx
Probably not.
pure zodiac
I personally think they're just dinosaurs being dinosaurs.
icy onyx
but I will file it under possibilities in my brain.
pure zodiac
Genetically altered because it's impossible to have complete genomes.
pure tulip
Talla? Which date you recommend me to check out and learn the lore here in the Discord?
icy onyx
If it’s just dinosaurs being dinosaurs what does AE gain from it?
pure zodiac
icy onyx
Check pinned messages Andrew
pure zodiac
Pinned messages would be a good start.
icy onyx
Then search up Alfie, search up replicator
pure zodiac
Maybe they made dinosaurs to see how they acted or somethin'
icy onyx
Alfie is also known as Alphonse
digital vale
Ehh, I think Profiles/EIP are truly human minds, but the reason why would they be put in such experiments seems... hard to say. Hell, we don't even know what are AE's motivations in a first place.
pure tulip
Oki doki.
icy onyx
Maybe it’s a sort of afterlife the elite can buy so that when they die they can continue living as a dinosaur forever.
Maybe they are converting the human species into dinosaurs either to save it or for more selfish reasons.
Maybe the combination of human minds inside a dinosaur body creates a pheromone which would be used as a cure for a big disease.
AE is probably there to get money or to save the world.
Like how in The Maze Runner books WICKED tries putting humans inside a maze to try and find a cure for the big disease.
digital vale
The medical base of AE isn't actually a bad idea, I was thinking about it before. I believe somebody once mentioned that Echidna was originally a woman with cancer, so maybe, AE is a medical-research company, or atleast, uses it as a cover for their own projects. Umbrella Corp. vibes
junior oriole
Two timelines exist,the first one is where Apollo Engineering went bankrupt and Phoenix corp made the primal carnage dinos,the second one is where Phoenix corp went bankrupt and Apollo Engineering made the isle dinos and creatures.
Connecting the two game universe's in a way.
jade notch
I think AE went bankrupt. Why would they leave v3 in such disrepair.
icy onyx
iirc, v3 is being dropped out of lore and doesnt mean anything
pure zodiac
All we care about is Tartarus
balmy veldt
Wait a sec, Echidna was a human once? So, can't we apply that logic to the other humanoid strains and say that they could've been people with medical problems in the past? ( By humanoid strains I mean the Reaper and Colossus)
And maybe the strains give them healing properties or something?
cold pecan
Duh. The humanoid strains are just that; humans with strains. The tisso's pretty much scrapped I believe and the collossus is a hypo, so it would probably just be big, mean, and hungry
balmy veldt
I thought they were like Unknowns with Strains or something. Welp, that's a new thing for me
rotund fable
So does that mean the matriarch is affected with a strain or a different strain of it's own? Or just it's own species
twin crater
Matriarch is probably just its own thing
foggy kindle
there used to be a loading screen which suggested that the matriarch had offspring. whether they were biologocial or 'metaphorical' is hard to say though.
pure zodiac
It's most definitely a metaphor.
Also Rat, Tisso isn't scrapped.
It's being reworked.
Devs legit said Tisso will be something we can't possibly predict.
vale yew
Tisso is being re-worked? so not stealth, or just DIFFERENT stealth?
winged topaz
Possibly different stealth
vale yew
I hope there is a color changing stealth mechanic for one of them, way cooler than just turning invisible
vale yew
OOOh thats cool
pure zodiac
Like you know how cephalopods can change their shape, texture, etc.
vale yew
i mean, no one knows for sure
pure zodiac
Think that but on a dino.
vale yew
Sounds usefull
whole forum
This game dont have Lore it have Saur
grim osprey
It does
jade notch
I was thinking that tissoplastic carno should be a 100mph camouflaged human killer
nyoom
you are trying to run away in a car but then it matches your speed. and then flips your car.
just saying.
pure tulip
I really like this idea tbh.
icy onyx
soo 160 kph?... That would be way too fast
wraith solstice
Are the dinos humans controlling them or something like that?
icy onyx
There was a theory about dinos having human consciousness
celest marten
The unpredictable nature of a profile within the mind of a dinosaur was resolved with an affinity complex. We could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them that it was what they wanted.
hexed dove
in reality if we were going to take a realistic route with how the dinosaurs came back. Because of our ability to engineer dna through stem cells and bring things back to life now. We could say that, the humans made a break through. The environmentalists, were trying to find a way to make them coexist among our society and learn how to interact with them. Others however took a more hostile approach at the idea, did not want the dinosaurs to coexist, saying it would threaten they're way of life. So over the years, Dinosaurs and humans were up at arms with each other. Overtime the battle between the coexistence of Dinosaurs and Humans has been a premise of trying to figure out what it means to actually survive and live amongst each other.
fringe flame
@jade notch omfg thats some lost world shit that i am behind idk if you know but the carnos in the lost world book could change the color of there skin to the stuff behind them and the only way to tell if they were there is to flash them with a light and see them agusting to the new suroundings
jade notch
160kph would be really fast. But good.
balmy veldt
This is the isle lore channel what do you want us to talk about?
icy onyx
Well I would like te hear your toughts about the 70's art style that hinted in the Devblog#1 Does that reach all human assets or just the buildings ?
Human assets (Looks, Atmosphera, Objects, Vehicles, guns, tools, astetic features,)
pure zodiac
Well the mercs will definitely have guns.
icy onyx
Oh Something like this, These are my weapon models.
I make guns from both the 50-80"s there,
We have AK, M16, RH, Bullpub,
The texture is snass but I am a beginer modeller
Or I should put into Offtopic art ?
manic cloak
The isle has lore? Jesus.
rough lagoon
these are theories james
icy onyx
Yas And its a very complex and unique lore,
manic cloak
I see.
rough lagoon
wait is it confirmed lore?
icy onyx
But we only know the full lore with detail in a cronological way when the Full game relase,
There are lore assets,
manic cloak
Are humans a part of the lore? Cause, yknow. Skull.
icy onyx
Witch are help us to build up the lore here in #isle-lore-theories
Humans are the base on the lore,
The Isle take place in the human era,
manic cloak
Bruh what
icy onyx
In a semi historical world
somewhere in the atlantic ocean (The night sky) in a remote Human facility Island
The Isle main company that in the core is called AE or Apollo Engineering,
And thats what we know,
manic cloak
If humans do indeed learn how to duplicate a perfect or near perfect copy of a dinosaur’s molecular structure
icy onyx
The dinosaurs and the technology are from an other company called Phonic inc.
icy onyx
The sad biological answer is easier to cure cancer to a lifetime than bring back dinosaurs from fossils,
😆
pure zodiac
Though to be fair we don't really touch on humanoids all that much here.
Unknown and Cannibals are the big popular ones.
topaz agate
Okay, hear me out here, what if the isle is some sort of 'game show' like the hunger games, and the cannibal humans are like, muts that are made to make survival harder and creates more entertainment for the people watching. Either the dinosaurs are real or OR (okay here it gets bizarre), you have a VR system connecting to hundreds of people that are in the 'dino hunger games' but there is no real 'winners' there is only entertainment and, since this would be very futuristic, i would think it would be a dystopian world and ppl find entertainment in death and gore. AND AND AND AND, to back up my theory, one of the glitches i believe (been a while since ive seen it) it says for a better tomorrow? i think, i might be wrong and mixing something out, so what if a better tomorrow has to do with the 'dino games' as if to keep people from going crazy and there is new enterainment with the evrima update... uhh ask questions if something doesnt make sense i guess
digital vale
The Isle isn't build as battle royale, which would make the reality show super, super boring. The 'better tommorow' is, if I remember well, taken from PC:E, where they were probably using it as slogan to promise a future with humans and dinosaurs in peace.
topaz agate
Alright, I get that, that’s a good idea, but who says an arena needs to be built like an arena, and if you heard the QA, he said that dinosaurs might be spawning in cages and falling from the sky, meaning that humans do have control over these animals (then again this is a might not happen but I do believe it applies to the lore even if it doesn’t show up in the update)
So if the humans do have control over these animals, I don’t think they would be searching for a better bond between them, including when you have cannibals that will be coming and trying to kill dinosaurs and making a bad impact on dinosaurs, making it even more hard to believe humans want to get along with dinosaurs
icy onyx
The Isle is an MMO RPSG game,
I will stay with my 'Replicator controls everything, Replicators goals are too hard to understand for now without more information' theories
topaz agate
that theory is interesting
icy onyx
Because replicator is praised as deity by tribals. So it certainly must have some sort of control over the islands
It is also responsible for well.. replicating things
topaz agate
Yeah, that makes sense
digital vale
@topaz agate Sorry, I couldn't respond sooner. I don't mean that the island isn't structured as a BR, I was reffering to the game mechanics. If you want to build a reality show around dinosaurs massacring each other, you wouldn't give them option to be a pacifist. Sure, somebody might be interested in watching grazing stegosaurus, from time to time protecting itself from predators, but it's something that easily gets boring in BR show (especially if we get a future option to disable some of the dinosaurs -> herbivore servers -> zero motivation to fight each other, except "spicing up" the mood of players with some little fights). The "bond thing" is Phoenix Corp.'s motivation/cover, not Apollo Engineering's. Phoenix has, most likely, barely any impact on Unnamed and Tribals.
uncut rapids
What if ae were capturing volunteering people who thought it was a normal experiment then transferring their minds into almost hatching eggs?
balmy veldt
@topaz agate that sounds a lot like the Jurassic Games plot.
vague dome
glad to see some things stay the same in 2020
pure tulip
Don't forget that the replicator rewards you for sacrifice.
celest marten
Sooo something (device) dont let you leave the Island. 🤔
dapper tree
This^ and all of the loading screens are in pinned
rustic glade
What if the devs haven't any lore yet and they created this channel to take ideas from the best lore theories?
pure zodiac
No there has been lore.
It's just a matter of what has been retconned over the years.
vestal ridge
What if the humans are attempting to create a prehistoric ecosystem, but bending it to their will.
And perform experiments on specific assets, creating Hypos and other deformed abnormalities. First they wanted to resurrect dinosaurs for the hell of it, or some deeper meaning like in Ark: survival evolved....
Later on the military wants to expand the program by creating abominations to use in war effort...
I have no idea about the lore of the isle....
heady frost
I think that it's some kind of huge experiment by AE to see how society would change if we weren't the top predators
Hence the dinosaurs
topaz agate
@digital vale don’t worry about not responding sooner and that makes sense, my theory will probably shift with that, thanks : D
pure zodiac
oh god I don't want to break this apart because it'll be hard but..
That text.
It ain't canon.
The text in Anths video, while it happened in game, has no relation to lore
topaz agate
Aw rip, thanks for telling lmao
mental wasp
@topaz agate if you delete it nobody what https://gyazo.com/b9096a07802c6cd13866cc597d6111ab
topaz agate
Nobody what?
stone flower
I think they meant “nobody will”
pure tulip
From what I understood from the yesterday Dondi's stream. Now I think the Lore will restart.
I think we need to back up all our theories and make summary out of what we understand so far, which I think we already did, right?
celest marten
Why do you think the lore will restart?
gray lava
Ok so my first theory
So Æ went to the island to start the Dino Resurrection program right? What if they made the hypos to protect THEMSELVES but they ended up turning on them. Since there are 2 classes of humans it’s safe to assume that the tribal has killed many of the mercs and now have their weapons from the mercs fallen comrades. So maybe the hypos were gonna be used as a defense mechanism but like I said, utterly failed. I’m hoping in the future that we can uncover more truth than theories. If any of y’all read this thank you
pure tulip
(Sorry for the late reply.)
I think because there is lots of concept to take in and the Game will be different from what we know it. (That might not mean that it would change but it might be.) I listened to yesterday Dondi's stream, and he talked about the Lore and the music. He talked about the Lore to someone else in the community or I think one of his devs including Para (I'm not sure but I'm sure para did know about the Lore.) the guy was surprised by the Lore and he was describing how he felt about it.
That what I think about why. I don't think those reasons is actually good but the only we could know Is to question a Dev about it.
Might my reason isn't good.
pure tulip
I can admit that it is a very high chance it is gonna change except slightly because of the new mechanics and how strains will go.
But I kinda hope I'am wrong.
celest marten
The lore will still be the same
On stream Dondi said: Some Device dont let us leave the Island
violet notch
I remember him saying something like "there isnt some emp or other thing that forces your merc to stay on the island, theres an actual reason why a merc would want to stay there of their own volition despite the danger, its not that you just cant leave"
celest marten
pure tulip
I can agree the concept will be the same but it will get heavily changed.
I think.
I think I'm wrong again, who knows.
vale yew
Maybe what's outside the island is worse than what is?
pure tulip
I think they don't care about Mercs so they throw them there with devices to make the work done.
worldly socket
idk, i got nothin to say
rain crystal
i mean... the very name "mercenaries" implies they're getting paid. that's what a mercenary is
and if somehow they're not getting physically harmed but are getting paid a lot to stay on the island? i feel like that'd qualify
pure zodiac
While that may be possible.
I have a feeling it's implying something beyond simply a paycheck.
icy onyx
oor they got paid
drugged/whatever at base and throw on the island for experiments
with minimal equipment
because if you are sending mercs to guard/whatever an island
esp dino infested one
you prolly wont send them with a knife and maybe a pistol
mighty abyss
the island is the only thing
that's my theory. There's nothing other than The Isle
You're replicated after your death. Welcome to your afterlife
jade notch
That makes no sense. but a theory none the less.
astral agate
The isle was a system created to sustain others in a simulation of beautiful life, it got overtaken and corrupted to the point the things created were unsustainable, the simulation is now stuck in a continuous loop without anybody in the simulation knowing it. The people are now hunted down by the same people who began the corruption after they realized they couldn't contain what they made, and they too are stuck. What they don't know is that the cycle of life is continuous and they created a giant cycle of murderous monsters, and trapped them selves in the system along with them. The transmissions is the machine behind it all and there is no escape.
cunning dagger
Maybe what's outside the island is worse than what is?
Oh, ok. That freaked me out a little.
icy onyx
thats a genuinley good theory
could the island be an attempt to push humans to their limits in an attempt to win a war
making superhuman soldiers
strange quartz
or to play God.
little whale
When he said that my mind went to humanity trying to weaponize the hypos, tissos and neuros but now the world is over run with them.
ocean cliff
Both Dondi and Para have said that mercs have signed a contract, but they are starting with virtually nothing. This implies that AE, the company is giving people a payout for goin through this experiment or what have you
rain crystal
yeah. again: there's nothing stopping them from leaving in the way of "they'll kill you if you leave", that means they're there of their own free will. so something has to be better about being on the isle than not being on the isle. either it's pay, and a lot of it, or legit the outside world is a hellscape and they're treated better repeatedly being devoured by dinosaurs. which yeah that's concerning
pure zodiac
It could be also the anti-hyper weapon.
icy onyx
mercs may have been prisoners
uncut rapids
Oh, that makes me think. What if they were people who were in debt or in prison, and are being paid (or being released from prison, etc) to cull the hypos and stuff?
modern tangle
going back to the video from stream hes def talking about thousand life contract
pure tulip
In my theory, I think Mercs are some military stuff and some of them got tested and get to be the unknown Creature.
Or Colossus.
vital tree
Do we know if the growth rates of dinosaurs in relation to the day/night cycle in game is canonical? Are Tyrannosaurs really growing to full size in a matter of days? or is the sped up growth for gameplay purposes only.
frosty relic
its probably sped up for gameplay purposes
jade notch
Unknown and tribals are the same thing @pure tulip They aren't related to mercs.
pure tulip
Tribals and the Unknown are separated Creatures, while Cannibals and Tribals are the same thing.
It is been confirmed by Dondi long time ago.
They can also be related to Mercs. Being curropt by the Replicator (Keep in mind that might change.) or they got tested.
Let me check for a sec if I was right.
1:10 This is the answer.
Also, I'm in gonna be a sleep, sorry if i will reply very late.
Nighty night.
steady mantle
So can one player discover the already known lore by themselves or is the story so well hidden that you can only learn it through the community?
....In other words do I need to ask for the lore here or can I discover it on my own?
umbral patrol
well theres only bits and pieces of the lore rn because the game isn't complete, im sure more lore will come about, i do love the mystery behind it all though
steady mantle
And how is the lore being delivered?
Are there like logs leftover by humans and other wacky stuff?
Or is it just structures with mysterious stuff in them?
rotund niche
The lore has not been delivered, only clues from dondi’s streams
steady mantle
How do transmissions happen?
shut remnant
there's a twitter which sends out transmissions, you can see them in #transmissions
shut remnant
ye transmssions do ye
there's alot of clues ingame though
and evrima will bring even more clues aparantly
pure zodiac
And everything we know about the old game, will probably be changed to something we can't possibly fathom.
steady mantle
Oh okay!
pure zodiac
We already know Tissoplastic will become "something we don't even know"
Which led us to suspect that maybe they will be able to shapeshift.
Partially at least.
steady mantle
....Gosh darn that's ominous
I love it!
Also what is Tussoplastic
Is it a new hybrid dino of sorts?
pure zodiac
Tissoplastic is the least known strain.
Everyone knows Hyperendocrin, Neurotenic is sorta a mystery, and Tissoplastic is the ominous no one knows for sure strain.
shut remnant
it was originally meant to be the rogue to the hyper tank and neurotenic mage
but now no one knows
shut remnant
stop saying it like that
the devs aren't eldritch entities which hold secrets that the human mind can't imagine
they're just retconning shit lmao
pure zodiac
I'm saying we can't comprehend because we don't know for certain.
Also come on we all know Dondi is an ancient eldritch entity.
But anyway, I've been suspecting that Tissos have the ability to partially shapeshift.
Probably make themselves look like shrubs or trees.
vale yew
Octopus-style
steady mantle
Honestly I just thought this was jurrasic park
pure zodiac
Yeah, octopus style.
steady mantle
But damn I didn't expect lovecraft here!
shut remnant
there is no lovecraft
icy onyx
they are multiples traces from civilisations and the humans were in the game.
pure zodiac
She's fucking lovecraftian.
pure zodiac
Her original design at least.
steady mantle
I have no idea what is happening
pure zodiac
She's got tentacles.
shut remnant
lovecraftian doesn't really have much to do with looks
steady mantle
....okay where is the nearest lore channel?
pure zodiac
Well, #transmissions is a good place to start.
shut remnant
it's about cosmic horror and all that shit
steady mantle
Yup
shut remnant
look here in pinned
pure zodiac
Also I recommend the pins, yeah.
shut remnant
there's a website which basically goes over everything we currently know
steady mantle
Thanks a lot!
pure zodiac
Also Merc, Lovecraftian doesn't have to be totally cosmic horror.
Shadow of Innsmouth is a good one.
But in terms of actual cosmic horror god level stuff..
Replicator would be the way to go.
steady mantle
Well lovecraftian is more about things that the human mind cannot comprehend
And all that nice nihilism
shut remnant
we don't know about it
shut remnant
it likes sacrifices
pure zodiac
That plays into the biased douchebag part.
pure tulip
We still don't know if that gonna change in the Recode or not.
pure tulip
It is not really confirmed yet, but I hope so.
toxic breach
I wonder if both versions of the hyper rex will count as canon in the lore?
Version 1 and Version 2
edgy pike
That's what they did with the Utah and Allo remodels I'm pretty sure so maybe
with the loading screens
pure tulip
It depends on what the Strains future will be, in my opinion, I think they will do a new start for them.
So maybe the old one won't count as in the Lore anymore, but I hope I'am wrong. He was iconic before.
fervent mantle
Where do I find the current in game lore?
shut remnant
check the pins in this channel, there's a website with all known law
I'll just post it https://taterfilore.wixsite.com/theisleslore
fervent mantle
Thank you!
rotund niche
What if the isle isn’t actually a game, What if the gate way is the menu screen and we all keep “logging in” playing this game which in reality our outside lives are altered memory. All is the isle. The isle is truth. And dondi is dangling it in our faces like the evil genius he is. Time to put on our aluminum hats!!!
That would be cool if they worked that into the story some how, I mean Dino’s being driven by human consciousness is kinda already the reality of the game
icy onyx
What if the isle is a failed experiment at time travel by Dondi INC and humans brought dinosaurs to the present on an isolated island
chilly surge
I know this is pretty irrelavent but I made some hypo dossiers
Do keep in mind the size estimates are just my speculative thoughts
Hyperendocrin Giganotosaurus:
Hyperendocrin Tyrannosaurus:
Hyperendocrin Carnotaurus:
Hyperendocrin Spinosaurus:
Hyperendocrin Utahraptor:
balmy veldt
Wasn't the Hyper Utah supposed to just be around the size of a regular old Utah?
fresh rivet
All Hypers are larger
balmy veldt
Really? I vaguely remember some dev made a Hyper Utah model and said that it would only be like a tiny bit larger than a regular Utah
The only main differences I saw was the armour and the colour
dusk axle
orchid depot
not only that but all of the hypos have the ability to grow to, their for i would not be surprised if it grew to about the size of a sub adult carno
wispy yoke
hopefully these strain inclusions accidently don't break the game, the hypos in their current state are hella busted
fresh rivet
That's kind of their point, to be freaks of nature that erase ecosystems
the catch is how to get them
wispy yoke
hopefully we can just blow them up with a tank
the military inclusions are gonna be interesting to say the least. Either itll be like PC or more realistic in that these animals probably explode just as well as an elephant or whale
sly osprey
i never noticed but does the new map have building? are has it not been shown yet?
open sluice
Yes they have
pure zodiac
@wispy yoke We have talked about the anti-hyper weapon a couple times.
The conclusion we've come to is it's two weapons.
open sluice
And yes they shown them
pure zodiac
A small RPG like gun for smaller Hypers.
Then a colossal railgun turret for larger Hypers.
tough nymph
isnt there a mosa in the isle lore?
slow delta
probably some aquatic reptiles in the primal carnage lore
but nothing in the isle lore afaik
balmy veldt
To be honest I would expect some sort of electricity based weapon that would stop a hyper's heart instead of some weapon that has a larger explosion.
prisma harbor
If there’s no hyper left I think that’s a job well done.
wispy yoke
or you know just an elephant gun or high power sniper rifle, those things can go through cinder blocks. Whats a hypo gonna do? Even an ak could probably kill everything in the isle
pure zodiac
Rohan, the armor of a Hyper is effectively the same durability as the strongest parts of an actual tank.
An Elephant Gun isn't going to do shit.
Well it won't do shit against the larger ones.
icy onyx
Thats why you use heat rounds
such as the one fired from AT4 launcher
regular small arms maybe arent effective
but infantry at weaponry is pretty strong
sinful wraith
I wonder if we'll get new transmissions with the release of EVRIMA
wispy yoke
how is it tank durability, what in gods name is that tissue made of?
guns are hella good at killing animals man
get sum frag rounds
see how well a little organic armor stand up to that
shut remnant
well another reason it's hard to kill hyper is their intense regeneration
I don't think their armour is actually tank durability
but it's resistant to pretty much all personnel guns
pure zodiac
That too
Hypers have stupid regen
Also remember these aren't natural entities.
Their metabolism and strain gives them armor beyond normal organic armor plating.
agile surge
^ ya they basicly taking a creatures natural abilitys and multiply it by 20
real thicket
Living metal
pearl gulch
Are they keeping the Camara?
balmy veldt
The regeneration thing is why a electricity based weapon would be useful. If it stopped the heart it would instantly die
pure zodiac
Eeehhhhh
It could work
But only if it killed literally every cell in the body of the Hyper.
If it only stopped the heart, regeneration would kick in an restart it.
Granted we don't know the extent of Hyper's regen, so maybe they would die if it their heart stopped.
agile surge
well in game they do need to take time to heal, so if a vital organ was imeedeatly destroyed like the heart or brain they would prob not regen
balmy veldt
Maybe the electricity could incapacitate a Hyper then you could come up close and kill it with some well placed explosives
cunning dagger
just throw a boat at it
slow delta
The best way to ensure the death of hypers is obscurity and out competing them. Which is why we think the Magna is some sort of type meant to replace the hypers
You can't kill all of them but you can starve them
icy onyx
tbh that is true
toxic breach
hit a hyper with a 120mm HESH round.
it's got enough armour to flatten it and cause the round to work perfectly
the shockwave would travel through the hyper and burst it like a water balloon
pure tulip
One of the loading screen said something about the Hyper quetz.
I think it said they couldn't contain it, so they killed it... This kinda give me a theory about AE motivations and why they contain them.
unique ridge
just drop a H bomb on it, it'd die but the island might peace out
dim beacon
Nah APFSDS entrance wound and exit wound
dim beacon
Lmao
icy onyx
hell, you wouldnt even need tandem warhead
dim beacon
Imagine a kv2 deleting a Raptor
icy onyx
regular heat warhead would be enough
pure zodiac
Why not try killing them from the inside?
Like as it opens its jaw, fire a well placed GS-777 down its throat.
Also Andrew, they didn't kill H. Quetz. H. Quetz is currently MIA.
As H. Quetz is Alphonse/Alphie.
wispy yoke
shoot em with a big gun seems to be the best way
a ballista could probably do the trick too
shut remnant
I doubt a ballista would work
pure zodiac
^
It may stop the Hyper for a time.
But a Ballista bolt is literally a large arrow.
You shoot it into the Hyper's mouth, it'll eventually break.
pure tulip
I thought they killed it.
pure zodiac
Nah.
Alphonse escaped.
They can't find it.
And that's why they converted all type-h containers to terrestrial instead of aerial.
In fact they even labeled Alphonse as a success.
pure tulip
Oh, interesting. I watched one of meatylock video about the Hyper Quetz and I thought they killed it and contain the other Hypers.
Thank you for telling me!
vestal ridge
Wonder if the Hypo assets were intentional....and if they were wonder what are they used for...
lyric topaz
Weren’t the Hyper assets created incase other experiments escaped to hunt them down, or to cleanse the island if the ecosystem is collapsing?
celest shadow
That could be a plausible idea. But what about re-capturing the Hyper assets. With overhunting the ecosystem would struggle. Maybe if they were controled
lyric topaz
Well because of their metabolism, the hypers would starve to death, so as long as things can stand clear of them, the island wouldn’t be purged completely unless necessary.
celest shadow
But aren't hypers advanced enough where hiding would be futile? They would have to be released in a certain area and only for a specific reason. Or they would have to have their metabolism so weak where the feeding would have to be immediate.
lyric topaz
I would guess that the hypers would be deployed in a certain location, so that they would quickly hunt down whatever they were released for. But maybe the location they were put in would allow them to have their only food be their target before they would starve. Though it would make sense for all dino’s, especially mutant strains, to have some sort of device in them. If the hypers begin to over hunt, then maybe the device can be activated to kill
celest shadow
Something like a trigger for leaving a certain are for too long that would activate an explosive or any other more human way of killing it. Or it would just paralyze it for transport.
lyric topaz
I believe that trying to keep a hyper specimen alive for later use would bring a lot or risk. It’d be incredibly hard to contain creatures like that, not to mention the amount of food they would need to give it to keep it alive
celest shadow
True. I guess scratch that theory then.
soft tree
if they have the advanced technology to make them surely they have a way to contain them. in reality man has conquered nature because we are now killing it
pure tulip
I was having a theory about if they had advanced technology.
But after I think a bit, I don't think AE Technology is advanced as Monarch but atleast they are slightly advanced.
toxic breach
I mean wouldn't a drone strike be easier than deploying hypers to hunt down escaped assets?
icy onyx
Reaper with hellfires would get the job done ez
pure tulip
Or a Colossus.
icy onyx
@pure tulip I meant MQ-9 Reaper drone. Not Tisso Reaper 
pure tulip
My bad.
fresh rivet
Well, you know, there are always failed attempts and god complex. The scientist wanting to create things to their liking, the dinosaurs alone weren’t enough, they wouldn’t stop and created the strains, and military pays
And eventually things get out of control
dense swallow
paper furnace
So this isn't so much a theory as it is a potential fun fact, but the lower jaw bone of snakes is actually two seperate bones held together by a small ligament. Given the split jaw thing going on with the Hypers, could it be possible that other animals such as snakes are being used in their creation?
pure zodiac
If you're referring to how like Spino and Giga can split their jaws open.
That's not snake dna.
That's actually a side effect of horrible mutations.
In fact, the Giga basically screams in pain when it does it.
lyric topaz
That would explain why the split jaws seem random among the hyper specimens, rather than all or none of them
pure zodiac
The Giga roars in pain because, well its jaw isn't normally build to split at a literal 90 degree angle.
Spino doesn't really roar with pain because the split isn't really that wide.
lyric topaz
Is the spino able to split its jaws wider than seen with its roar? considering it could barely swallow a sub rex at most
balmy veldt
That would make a lot of sense as it's just a mutation not an adaptation so it's not intentional really, and isn't actually used that much
lunar mortar
Keep the Dinosaurs real if they are thinking about any "concepts" that look and make zero sense The Isle is a masterpiece as a Dinosaur keep it real if u are a adult u will agree if you agrue to fantasize grow up and go to another game that has unicorn dinosaurs, we are experiencing realism here let us enjoy and appreciate Dinosaurs how they are scrap humans never put them in it was an idea in the beginning some things aren't meant to be truth hurts I know wont be surprised to hear anyone argue about any of this because they dont know how to grow up and just experience being a Dinosaur thankyou
shut remnant
is something wrong with you?
the theorys here are all based on the info the DEVS THEMSELVES have given us, if you don't like the style they're taking the game in then go find a different game and stop complaining
celest marten
i assume he dont read before he bought this game
stiff karma
what did I just read
celest marten
dont matter, keep the chat to ISLE LORE THEORIE
sand seal
I've never wanted punctuation more than that statement. But ya'll's theories are neat to read. Keep up the good work.
coral bronze
He’s mad that humans are being added and he wants it to be realistic
regal locust
This is for lore theories, not release theories. Also, iirc, pretty sure he meant the five days thing within the context of the array crashing, not the other bug if that even was a bug.
green pagoda
Wait isn't there this idea that there are two rival companies in the isle
each creating their own seperate dinosaurs
what if organisation in the isle is one of the companies
and the organisation in path of titans is the other
icy onyx
why did you give me excitement
cunning dagger
The Isle is just a purgatory for the human conscious, and people have begun to scout out the area to study whatever the fuck is happening there.
warped jolt
Damn, I feel bad for a human that gets his conscious fused with a Compy 
ruby frigate
🤔 Maybe the dinosaur instincts are merged with the humans conscious so that's why they just kill for food like real dinosaurs would
warped jolt
Being told your mind will be melded with that of a beast of older times, just so you can be a prehistoric rodent
Oh right, Evrima potentially comes today.
Bummer. I can’t play until next Friday lmao.
icy onyx
nah we're the failed experiments
warped jolt
Who knows lmao, maybe that time my boy Deino will be in
I think it was less trolls, more so just really really excited players
woeful chasm
This channel is for isle lore theories only please
warped jolt
This is theorizing why the servers channels are currently fucked, but fair point lad
brave oak
@woeful chasm where else we gonna talk general is locked
warped jolt
Back to real theories
ruby frigate
I like the theory of the human conscious being inside the dinosaurs
But, I wonder how on earth they'd make it happen
wild heath
add irritator
hot junco
Stay on topic, or we lose this one as well
warped jolt
Again, if I ever had my mind in that of a dinosaur, I’d be so fucking chill with being a Deino and being a lazy all day every day, basking in the sun and devouring poor goofs
Like real life 😳
feral pond
Hey. Lore theories or else.
simple umbra
The isle is yesterday but tmr in the frozen forest of time
ruby frigate
I'm just going to stick with simple theories cause I havent had my sleeping meds so I've been awake all night, and dont hate please because I dont watch many theory vids or lurk here :) thanks.
Edit: Great now theres a cool down
slow delta
@proper gale Please you're the only discord moderator online, can you clean up the lore-theories channel?
proper gale
This is not the place for #401470471750811669 chatter.
trail merlin
So anyone have theories regarding the static and AE insignia that appear on our screens when we're near building? Are the dinosaurs we are part cyborg? Or is there some sort of tracking chip buried deep in the dinosaurs brains or maybe more like a digital virus because even infants born have it
slow delta
it's been theorised that it's because of a chip implant and that hatched dinos will not have this issue but most likely it's to deter players out of the unfinished areas
icy onyx
I wonder how the replicator gets it’s energy? I mean it’s a gigantic godlike machine right? So what power does it use to work?
restive zenith
souls
torpid path
mako, obviously
digital vale
Maybe from water power generators?
restive zenith
thats probably want dam and oceangate is for then
pure zodiac
It could probably be a combination of all of those.
Hydroelectrical power, probably thermal energy, and of course, souls.
low hinge
Magnets?
pure zodiac
Given how it's a fucking G O D machine.
It'll probably use literally anything for a power source.
fierce cedar
true
shut tartan
is there like a comprehensive guide to the isles lore that i can read somewhere?
icy onyx
@shut tartan pins
icy onyx
This is the lore channel @mental bluff Also EVRIMA is gonna be released from the 14th-20th. So it can be released any time now. At it's latest it's gonna be released on the 20th June. Anyways do not ask for EVRIMA in the lore channel.
On a lore related note however, what does the replicator want? It's a sentient thing and sentient things want something so what does the replicator want?
it's actively creating dinosaurs and if you are a follower of the theory that the dinosaurs have human minds in them (which I do follow) it puts human minds in the dinosaurs.
forest fossil
What is the replicator?
Thank you Kangaroo. Perhaps it’s aware of the power it holds?
People got nutty when the game didn’t update at midnight and they all went feral.
pure tulip
@forest fossil
(Sorry for the ping) The Replicator is something you go into and sacrifices to give you rewards and powers.
We don't know what Is technically the Replicator, but he is a big creature, God or a machine that rewards who sacrifice.
icy onyx
EVRIMA is coming when the devs make it.... and sadly we cannot sacrifice things to a replicator yet
pure tulip
We do not know yet if the Replicator will come or not or the lore will be reset or not, but hopefully let's look forward and hope for the best!
buoyant crown
Hmm
rose jay
Is there a place where I can access lore material?
woeful chasm
Pins
celest marten
📌 top right " pinned messages"
woeful chasm
This is a reminder that this channel is for isle lore theory and discussion only. Anything else is off topic and does not belong and will be removed.
Not since lore hasn’t been updated in a while
restive zenith
The replicator wants you to live a better life, so you can fuel it, the better the life, the more power you give it
violet yoke
I haven't really spent a lot of time on the lore of the isle, but I've been listening to the soundtrack and am just curious what people have come up with regarding the meaning of the "thousand life contract"?
pure zodiac
The Replicator is also a huge, biased, douche.
Like holy shit is it biased.
icy onyx
Yeah the replicator is a jerk
supple kite
I personally always thought that the buildings at the radio towers had bunkers with some kind of generator powering them, you can hear morse code and the cameras that follow you and take pictures are kinda sus and make me think there are people studying the animals around the building.
Also lol
olive burrow
you guys didn't see shit, don't report me to the admins
obtuse zephyr
Hmm
pure tulip
Holy God, does that mean a new lore coming? If so, PECK YEAH!
hot junco
Na, punch thought this was offtopic
olive burrow
Yeah I was "shitposting" as the cool kids would say. Can't give Mei a reason to strike me.
pure tulip
My bad, sorry.
ornate flower
beat Mei to the punch and strike yourself 😛
feral pond
Please return to channel topic, thank you
rough lava
So if you can sacrafice dinos wonder what will happen if you sacrafice a hypo? Thats a alotta power for the replicator
silver rover
wat
tawdry sable
Do we have any info on this? Cause it sounds kinda interesting but don't wanna start throwing theories if there is something already.
peak willow
Hallo everyone, this is the devs nightly dose of love 
digital vale
@tawdry sable Check pins 🙂
rough lava
I know dondi has previously stated that cannibals or tribals im not 100% sure which will have to sacrafice themselves to become stronger or something along those line, im wondering if other dinos can be sacrafices aswell
hardy sleet
Idk
tawdry sable
I know. Meant that particular idea.
fresh rivet
All strains, not just hypers. There’s a thing about echidna (the Neurotenic human) to be the mother of cannibals. Does it refer to the cannibals reverting her? Or the one that spawns the eyeless creatures from the cannibal tributes?
I wonder what’s the role of the colossus and the reapers in this whole story as well
low hinge
Maybe it all takes place on a spaceship
junior ginkgo
I think you're onto something
muted sand
I get the feeling that the menu screen is the replicator. Like you use it to choose a dinosaur and all that.
frank gorge
thats a nice theory, that could mean that people favored by the replicator may have more options to choose from
slow delta
and when you spawn as a dino, you kinda appear out of nowhere, maybe you are "replicated"
muted sand
True. Maybe you are replicated from an already existing dino.
frank gorge
the dinos where probably created from something jurassic park style, with the strains being further modifications of those creations. the replicator will just do what it is named and replicate possibly with some minor alterations, such as color of the skin.
muted sand
Yeah. Maybe there are just some main dinosaurs. Like it's keeping some dinosaurs intact and is replicating them.
gusty light
@slow delta What is your profile picture O-O
icy onyx
vital sparrow
That's the ben 10 girl drinking milk
gusty light
@vital sparrow A-Alright..
pulsar fractal
What if there’s tissos already in the isle but we’ve just yet to see them because they’re good at hiding
vale ice
I think the new Island that's coming is probably near Australia, many Island around there have a similar vegetation like millions of years ago, and since this is a sort of a JP inspired game where the dinos are probably cloned, that whoever does it, puts them in an similar enviorment they used to life in.
celest marten
Btw does someone also found this hidden message in the Hope Trailer?
50686F656E697820
496E7465726E6174
696F6E616C206173
7365747320616371
7569726564206375
7272656E74207374
6174757320617761
6974696E67206576
616C756174696F6E = "Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation"
pure zodiac
Oh yeah I saw the message.
But I didn't have a program that could decipher it.
mighty abyss
it's basically magna rex = pc rex
slow delta
basically saying nothing knew as per usual 😦
analog trout
what is says is that the assets from pc have been acquired and need to be evaluated.
shut remnant
tbf there won't really be anything new until evrima
fresh rivet
I feel like we won't get anything new lore wise at least a month or so after EVRIMA
shut remnant
the map itself is meant to contain some lore spoilers, so I imagine we will be getting new lore
rotund niche
Lol I came here to ask if you guys thought the lore would actually be implemented in evrima and you literally answered my question before I got here
mighty abyss
Great minds think alike, but psychic minds know ahead of time.
Which brings us to our next discussion: psychic dinoasaurs?
shut remnant
neurotenic probably counts as that
cold arrow
I want neurotenic Para, a somewhat xenomorph-looking eldritch horror that controls the minds of beings to do its bidding as a sort of god :)
arctic anchor
Tbh I would love to see mutated herbies dunno how they would fit into the lore unless it was due to those giant monstrous trees we saw a long while back.
pure zodiac
@cold arrow Even if it could do that, those people/beings wouldn't be doing the bidding of the parasaur itself, rather the will of the Neurotenic Mastermind. As all Neuro creatures exist in a hivemind, with Mastermind/Echidna being at the helm.
shut remnant
I don't think a hivemind has really been confirmed or even suggested?
pure zodiac
It was confirmed a while ago that Neuros exist in a hivemind.
Why else is Echidna called the Neurotenic MASTERMIND?
shut remnant
oh huh, haven't heard of that, and idk, neuroes are meant to be smart, so the embodiment of neuro would probably be very smart, or a mastermind
balmy veldt
Maybe the Echidna has a sort of hive mind with cannibals. It is, after all, called the Mother of Cannibals. In my opinion, I think it has something to do with the Unknown, as it shares some similar traits with them, and they used to be called cannibals, so maybe the Echidna can control the Unknown.
cosmic shoal
Yooo so the devs put the general chat on read only again
coral forge
aye, suspicious🤔
mild sorrel
Hmm
short geyser
hmm
mental nexus
wut the heck is the skeleton in titan lake anyways
muted sand
Shrug
trail geode
It's the Matriarch skeleton. Originally it wasn't in the lake, but it caused fps issues for ppl so they moved it into the lake
short geyser
what matriarch? 
shut remnant
we don't know what skeleton it is, could be on one of the "island crawlers" the devs talked about in the past
torn python
😂 legends
shy radish
On evirma has to human like made paths so i think that humans have already been on that island.
shut remnant
although there are gonna be human structures on new maps, the "paths" I think you are talking about are actually game trails, not human made paths
shy radish
They kinda look men made.
mighty abyss
that's just what vegetation looks like when it's been walked on a lot
trail geode
The Matriarch is a small pterosaur that gathers DNA from other dinosaurs, hence why it got so large. From what I read the Matriarch died from starvation due to its massive, and I mean MASSIVE size.
slow delta
source?
shut remnant
all we know about the matriarch is that it's meant to start as small as a compy, and grow as large as a pue(this is very old info, we haven't got any since)
trail geode
I saw that on The Isle Wiki. That's also where I learned most of the lore. Like with the neurotenic mastermind and the hyperendocrin titan or whatever it's called.
shut remnant
oh the isle wiki is terrible, don't get info from it, if you want info on lore there's a useful website in the pins
jade igloo
Oh damn this channel exists
visual ivy
What’s in the aviary? I went there a few days ago and heard chittering and whale noises. Do any of you know what’s in there?
trail geode
there is nothing in there as of rn
slow delta
i think one of v3's versions had a couple of aviaries
trail geode
the current V3 map has one massive aviary. That's the one I'm talking about
digital vale
I believe some dev said it's a Redwood ambience, though people speculated that those are Unnamed's noises.
balmy veldt
1: I'm pretty sure it's Unknown not Unnamed.
2: those are ambience noises. The clicks are slower and the sound is shorter
shut remnant
the eyeless jumpy boys don't have any official name, however they used to be called "cannibals" and imo until they give the proper name calling them "cannibals" is fine, however if you wanna call them "unknown" or "unnamed" that's fine too, there's no official name so any of those work
slow delta
Boys, I got some more lore sauce for us. In the findtheisle website there is a new animation and I managed to extract it so we can analyze it for clues without the website's elements interfering. http://findtheisle.com/wp-content/themes/oneup/img/content/video/DNA_Short_Sequence_-_No_Sound.ogv
celest marten
🧐 leeeet me look
slow delta
Here's the extracted video of the website animation for those who can't be bothered to open the link.
fiery horizon
jo
celest marten
cant find any hints 🤔
slow delta
yeah it looks like generic dna stuff but i thought it might be worth looking into
celest marten
yea and btw 5min slow mode 
slow delta
the toxic #401464048610312195 has a 2 min timer but the #isle-lore-theories guys have to wait 5 to actually theorise 😦
sand seal
...yeah, imma swap those.
balmy veldt
You know the "Island Walkers/ Island Crawlers"? So they're supposed to be huge right? How did they even come into existence?
tiny carbon
Yeah on the DNA strand little short video, I have seen that exact same thing in several places, it is just a generic little clip that isn't specifically tied to the isle.
The second cut is what I recognize the most, the final cut was also familiar.
visual ivy
Does this having anything to do with each other? Please tell me this is just a coincidence.
jovial magnet
Hey guys, is there a lore explanation on why you wake up on a beach whenever you spawn?
fringe flame
@jovial magnet are you talking about ark?
tiny carbon
The spawning at the beach isn't canon if I'm not mistaken. I think the final goal with spawning is some sort of air drop system.
jovial magnet
Why air drop dinos?
rotund spire
They gotta be asleep when they get dropped so they dont attack the handlers
tiny carbon
I have nooooo idea as to the reason why, it's just what Dondi has spoke about wanting to do last I heard. How exactly it plays into the lore I haven't the slightest idea.
muted sand
I assume it has something to do with the replicator.
neon bloom
what does carnage comes home mean, kinda forgot about it but now im wondering what it could mean
muted sand
what does carnage comes home mean, kinda forgot about it but now im wondering what it could mean
@neon bloom No idea.
neon bloom
oh lol
shy pendant
It's definitely something related to Primal Carnage
muted sand
Perhaps. It could also have something to do with the strains.
slow delta
....it's the primal carnage lore tie-in
digital vale
I might be wrong, but it has/had something to do with Operation Inferno. Carnage Comes Home showed up three years ago on twitter, followed by replication of Allfather, Alphonse and Thronebreaker. Give me a sec, I'l find it.
cinder hound
@visual ivy Yeah no, that's not a coincidence.
digital vale
This is it. As HellShade mentioned, it's a (probably first?) lore connection with Primal Carnage.
neon bloom
oh i forgot about that primal carnage game, what do u do in that and how is it related to the isle, i just know it has dinosaurs lol
coral forge
team based shooter
dinos vs humans
neon bloom
but how is it related to the isle other than dinosaurs
shut remnant
they share some of the same lore(for example there is a company in PC called pheonix corp. in isle lore Apollo Engineering seized their assets in an operation called operation inferno)
low zephyr
GUYS I FOUND THE SECRET, dondi is gonna ad too the game a rex since human in the game too kill all of the dino, then the human will repreduce and conquer the world! (its a joke dont take me seriesly)
queen scroll
😋
slow delta
We dont do jokes here
icy onyx
@low zephyr Just a reminder that this chat is for serious theory discussion only.
low zephyr
sorry, i thought it would be nice too make somones day...
silk breach
Hi
visual ivy
Good to know it wasn’t a coincidence, maybe Carnage Comes Home is related to the Magnatyrannus?
slow delta
Definitely
trail geode
HellShade is right there
low zephyr
agreed, wath Magna
digital vale
@torpid fiber Code says - PENDING UPLINK. 1K SIGNALS REQUIRED. UPLINK CODE: INFERNO
torpid fiber
What does that mean?
slow delta
it was just a twitter think needing 1k retweets for some news. check the pins for all the lore info we've gathered
stoic hamlet
Well primal carnage is definitely tied into the isle in a very huge way especially when the logo for the human side and company can be seen in one of the glitching channels when starting up the game (or it can just be a coincidence and the human symbol is the health cross i believe)
echo gazelle
The new menu seems to say, "This is just the beginning" from what I gathered.
buoyant crown
What do you mean? @echo gazelle
lusty python
@echo gazelle is the game out now or is that a screen shot u took or are you a CC
echo gazelle
@lusty python @buoyant crown I was watching a stream and decoded the light morse that I marked in the photo which translates to This is just the beginning, at least is what I got from it.
buoyant crown
Oh do they blink?
echo gazelle
yeah
sterile frigate
@echo gazelle Wow. That's interesting ... Has anyone translated tower signals?
echo gazelle
@sterile frigate yeah, all the towers emitted morse which were decoded, you can find the document in the pinned messages
sterile frigate
@echo gazelle OU. Thanks so much for the tip.💕
sturdy pagoda
where do we find these cave paintings mentioned in the document
fast pebble
I didn't know The Isle had such an extensive lore.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does Primal Carnage have to do with The Isle? Does anybody know? Do they relate in any way?
visual ivy
The dinosaurs in The Isle are perfected versions of the Primal Carnage dinosaurs. I think the rex from that game is the Magnatyrannus, a perfected mutated dinosaur that was made from other mutated dinosaurs. There could also be marine dinosaurs but I’m not sure if they’ll be in The Isle anytime soon. Something about a large marine reptile locked up in a facility somewhere.
icy onyx
Thats in beat we dont know whats going be in the full update
fast pebble
Yes, I get it but.. that doesn't exactly explain why the two relate. It's two different games with two different objectives.
rotund spire
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does Primal Carnage have to do with The Isle? Does anybody know? Do they relate in any way?
@fast pebble They probably dont
fast pebble
Multiple messages here state otherwise, along with decoded stuff in the google doc.
weary sluice
in PC you can hear specfic sounds that u can hear in the isle
slow delta
AE (Isle company) took assets (dinos) from Phoenix International (Primal Carnage company) during operation inferno. And alfie the quetzal from primal carnage even became a hyper quetzal in the isle lore. check out the pinned lore and you can find snipits of information about the games' relationship
sturdy pagoda
where do we find these cave paintings mentioned in the document
solid relic
Hi sorry about it being a little late but I had a question and figured this would be the best place to answer it. Do we know if the growth rates of the dinosaurs are anything more than a game mechanic? Like as far as the lore is concerned do the dinosaurs actually grow to adult size in a matter of days? Or is that just a gameplay feature?
slow delta
@sturdy pagoda no idea actually
@solid relic nothing lore related for growth timers afaik
digital vale
I have feeling you can no longer find them, as they were in older ver. of V3.
muted sand
The roar in the end of the "Hope" video sounded alot like the primal carnage rex.
rustic quarry
I thought there was collision in the isle combat system. But I saw a couple of content creators playing the game, but the dinosaurs could run through each other. Will collision be added later then?
low zephyr
maybie the carnage comes home means that the devs are trying too make the game THE realistique dinosaur game that they wanted for years, maybie the recode will be the finals codes.
slow delta
@rustic quarry wrong channel
drifting oxide
mechanics mechanincs are what matter.... stagger damaged, dots etc... so much can be add
icy onyx
i potat
feral light
Has there been a working document (like the similar one for Evrima) that contains popular theories? Or any bits of (confirmed) Lore? Would be nice to have a summary or review of popular (or confirmed) pieces. Thank you 🙂
icy onyx
@feral light look into pins
feral light
Eh it's fine, I'll just re-read it haha. Might find something that went uder the radar
icy onyx
ah you already saw those. mb lmao
marble crescent
i think dinosaurs fuck when your not looking
opaque pond
With the human structures dotted around the map, the possibilities of strains, and obviously the dinos, the Isle use to be involved with some sort of DNA editing research that lead to the Dinos (A.E Jurassic Park style), and the tribals are simply natives that were tested on before some sort of crisis happened the lead to the break out of the Dinos and test subjects, as well as the strain plants.
Mercenaries could just be folks hired by whatever organization or entity that ran the research to go ahead and purge the island of Dinos and natives, or possibly just contain them as best they can.
clever quest
IDK if this is the proper place to put this, but isn’t the Utah’s 1 call the same as the velociraptor’s calls from the Jurassic Park/World franchise?
opaque pond
Wouldn't doubt it, though that Jurrasic Parks raptor isn't accurate
wintry merlin
Has "Primal Carnage Rex mutation looking an awful lot like Isle rex" been discussed yet? (probably...)
opaque pond
Well, I mean T-rexes typically look alike, being that they're the same species and all
digital vale
It's a fan-made thing, whoever did it could take inspiration from Isle for the colors. Also, it doesn't have much to do with lore.
distant ocean
The primal carnage mutations are made my the community, has nothing to do with the lore
olive burrow
Not sure why this channel was locked, sorry about that folks. In future just DM me about it.
icy onyx
Ight
icy onyx
I dunno if this is a lore theory but when I play primal carnage on a certain map I sometimes hear Shants in the background
ebon badge
Yeah, it's certainly very odd. I hear that too at times
edgy pike
Same elements used in the audio
modern dune
There’s a reason i feel like the Isle and Primal are the same world is that their acro has the same roar as the isle’s and there rex is very similar to magna...what if primal is the events after the isle?
What if we are watching primal’s past while playing the isle, maybe once we get mercs there’s probably a base with info of the company from primal (Phenoix corpe or something)
light flare
@modern dune I was under the impression The Isle comes after Primal Carnage. AE stole assets from Phoenix during Operation Inferno. Pretty sure Novaraptor was mentioned by name.
modern dune
Hmm could be
That could mean Novaraptor is still within islands somewhere in the isle
slow delta
The isle is in the same universe as primal carnage (the original not extinction or genesis afaik) and it takes places after primal carnage.With pretty huge connections too
balmy veldt
I like the theory of Primal Carnage and The Isle being different timelines. The Isle timeline is where operation Inferno was a success and Apollo Engineering kept going on with their experiments, while the Primal Carnage company, Phoenix Corporation, went bankrupt. In the Primal Carnage timeline, the exact opposite happened, so AE went bankrupt and shut down, whereas Phoenix Corp went along with all their shenanigans
neon bloom
hold on NOVAraptor???
twin crater
yeah from Primal Carnage
neon bloom
oh i thought it was something from isle lore, like a strain
vagrant jasper
I heard nova was dropped from isle lore
slow delta
it's still in afaik with the latest lore hints
high heath
Now, I have a lore theory. Since Primal Carnage has mutations, is it possible that the same scientist was somehow apprehended by AE and helped make the strains?
slow delta
primal carnage extinction has mutations and it's not part of the lore. the isle is cannon with the original pc
high heath
Well, AE bombed the island after PCE
slow delta
pce isn't canon to the isleverse though, at best it's an alternate universe
high heath
Mmm...no? PC and PCE are canon to The Isle
shut remnant
what I last heard from dondi is that they're in a similar universe but not exactly the same
pure zodiac
It could be a case that original PC and The Isle are in the same universe but take place on different islands.
The Isle taking place on Spero, and some others that were mentioned.
Original PC taking place on other islands, of which probably housed different creatures at possibly even growth stages/experiments. Which is why PC Dilo can spit but TI Dilo can't, despite both being venomous.
fresh rivet
Just so you guys remember: the Isle has access to the Primal Carnage patent, but not the other way around.
Could be the isle universe is related in past events of the primal carnage franchise with expanded lore, being Phoenix International a possible competitor for Apollo Engineering. As competitors they have various research and stuff they aim to surpass the other (there comes the strains, and how the Magnatyrannus is a taken from PC. Would that mean Magna is not natural but Phoenix own version of strains?)
So, technically the Isle per se is not cannon in PC, but PC is cannon to the Isle.
DONDI, PLEASE WE NEED MORE LORE
icy onyx
ooh hurrah they unlocked isle lore again :D
high heath
We know AE bombed PC
icy onyx
Why
high heath
Asset collection
icy onyx
Wait, wasn’t pc genesis meant to give us lore
neon bloom
wait AE actually bombed PC? bruh what
echo gazelle
The door in #transmissions is the same door we see seconds into the Genesis trailer before it opens but from the other side. AE acquired assets from Phoenix and destroyed the Island along with everything else. Only 5 subjects were obtained which were All-Father(Magnatyrannus), Alphonse(HyperQuetz), Throne-Breaker(HyperRex), and Nova(Unknown). This was addressed in a Stream ages ago which is why not a lot of people knows about it, then stuff happened but now it's back. Primal Carnage is thanked in the credits of the Isle. Legally, Isle can build assets from PC into Isle but PC can ignore whatever Isle does or vice versa. There was a stream very briefly of Dondi building the room in the Genesis trailer, but the video was removed along with clips.
cyan schooner
thats 4 whats the fifth
echo gazelle
4 only, my mistake, just double checked. I always think it's 5
slow delta
Thronebreaker was also a nickname for the PC spino and i think it makes more sense for it because there's no strains or types in PC. Rex, spino, quetz and nova.
light flare
To me "Throne-Breaker" implies something that can kill a Rex, so HyperSpino would make sense.
slow delta
Well the assets that were taken from phoenix werent strains yet. Alfie was made into a hyper quetz and allfather was possibly source for the magna but we dont know about the other 2 yet
digital vale
Nova seems very unique compared to the other three projects, as it's (probably) the only one who is entirely bioengineered, a combination of avian and ??? DNA. That reminds me, was its replication actually succesful?
echo gazelle
The console stream mentioned a designate of Nova being Novaraptor, don't think it's part Avian. The other 3 were deleted while only All-Father was replicated since they got to choose. Though I would say the other 3 are far worse, Magna is really nothing but a beginning of everything horrible.
digital vale
Not entirely sure if PCE's lore counts, but they mentioned during Nova's "refinement process" that they had to use different types of animal DNA. Original Novaraptor (the heavy feathered one) was combination of Avian DNA filled with some... extracted RNA fragments from EMU mutagen? But the problem was, they had a very short lifespan and heavy mortality rate , so they had to come up with a different animal (?) mix to make them more "stable", and so they created those JP-looking Novas.
Wait, if project Alphonse was available to be choosen for replication, does it mean they somehow managed to caugh him? Makes me wonder, do they actually need the specimen's presence in order to replicate him/her, or only sample/copy of its DNA "code"?
echo gazelle
Yeah it wouldn't be too far fetched for them to use different DNA to better a specimen, it's pretty much Apollo's goal to create the perfect organism. Dinosauriac mentioned before that in the back of the Deinosuchus' preview video is the mitochondrial RNA of the nile croc. Alphonse on the other hand last I heard it was MIA. I would assume you would need some form of sample or the specimen itself in order to replicate it. Magna was created from designates B-442 and B-443 which 443 was the Original PC Rex iirc forgot what 442 was.
high heath
The Nova isn't unknown though. I mean, PCs main raptor is called the Novaraptor
icy onyx
thronebreaker is primal carnages spino, yall probably know that but
shut remnant
isn't throne breaker hyper rex?
untold hull
Your both wrong though it is a Rex. Try Magna Tyrannous
slow delta
Thronebreaker is a nickname for both the primal carnage spino and for the wip hyper rex (check pins) but since the hyper rex thing is from early wip art and the fact that thronebreaker is mentioned in the operation inferno archive and the fact that its probably a jp3 reference means we can safely deduce that its the pc spino thats called thronebreaker
shut remnant
ah I see
untold hull
Throne breaker is magna rex not hyper.
shut remnant
magna rex is all-father, not throne breaker
slow delta
all father is the pc rex, we dont know if he becomes the magna itself or is used to make it, and throne breaker is the spino
light flare
in one of Dondi's streams he expresses relief that nobody has "figured out" what the Magna's real story is, so it must be something fun and very spoilery. There may even be hints out there.
slow delta
there's been nothing and there probably won't be anything for a while, how are we supposed to figure out the magna when we have barely anything
neon bloom
how did people even figure out all the lore that we already have???
high heath
They pay attention to stuff.
neon bloom
what stuff
echo gazelle
It’s the magic of working together as a community. The document in pinned messages took the effort of about 5 people I think, maybe more.
light flare
The stuff that really amazes me is how people have tracked down and translated stuff like riddles and morse code. That's some dedication.
marsh linden
i think that utar will take one second to grow and be tanky af and one shot every dino
balmy veldt
That's not a lore theory. Go put that in #608693014054830103 or #401464048610312195 or something.
untold hull
Well my main theory is that this company went all iNGen meets Umbrella Corp and now they are testing their creations
high heath
Since the Utahraptor is part Novaraptor, I wonder if it will have a quill and feather variant.
shut remnant
I haven't heard anything about utahraptor being part novaraptor, but that would make sense. Anyways it's definitely planned for it to have an optional feather variant.
analog trout
nova is part utah not the other way around.
high heath
No, no, The Isle's Utahraptor has Novaraptor DNA in it. Why it looks different compared to the old Isle Utahraptor
digital vale
Is it just your theory, or was it somewhere mentioned? I don't remember seeing a word about it before.
light flare
@untold hull You're not far off, but I think we've moved beyond "testing" because they lost control. The Replicator seems to have went all Red Queen and usurped control of the islands from Apollo's staff.
When the sapient computer system declares autonomy it's time to crap your pants.
echo gazelle
I recall Utah supposedly getting a name change some time ago and some people speculated it to be Novaraptor, but I don’t remember seeing that Utah has DNA of the Nova anywhere. I guess it could make sense but I haven’t seen physical evidence stating it has Nova DNA. The console mentions Novaraptor being a designate for Nova. We don’t know what Nova actually is iirc.
untold hull
Maybe its hacked.
@light flare potentially people, person, hacked into/took control/insided. Perhaps they are posing as the AI or just not expanding in the truth of the matter. Or your right and the AI is David or sky net type / Cortana red queen. But that begs the question did the company begin creating the strain variations of beasts and their ultimate forms such as Collosus etc? Or was it the AI?
light flare
Hard to say, especially given its choice of words in many circumstances. Most of the time it seems to refer to people as "profiles" but in some circumstances it can also refer to them as "persons" or "trespassers." It defines a trespasser as any profile that deviates from what the company and/or the AI expects them to do.
There's some kind of direct antagonism between Apollo and the AI for sure though, since documents and files are classified or deleted in some console messages. Tribals might be former Apollo Staff that were preserved as profiles and repurposed to serve the Replicator, while trespassers were absorbed and "redistributed" possibly into dinos.
echo gazelle
@light flare that's pretty interesting stuff you put down. This AI/Replicator could very well have took matter into its own hands, the island is under some extreme observation from the Replicator. It chooses favorites and whatever forces the creatures to evolve, the replication process is the counter balance to it all. Believe that's stated somewhere, could be wrong. Anyway, there's some interesting stuff in one of the Death screen filters which says this:
ERROR - Unable to establish connection to Harvest Base!
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds...
HELP ME!
Network Intrusion Detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source...
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required
INIT. T.C. satellite-linkup...
light flare
@echo gazelle Harvest Base huh? Interesting, I wonder if that's where the "Gateway" holding is located. I've heard some theories about how Gateway is a place but from the console messages I'm starting to think it's more like a server or a router. It links to Tartarus, but Tartarus manages to contain things as large as the Hyper-Colossus.
The only escapee from Tartarus I know of is the Mother of Cannibals/Echidna, which is a Neurotenic mutant. Neurotenics can apparently generate electromagnetic disturbances and even change the weather so I'm wondering if the Echidna might have some kind of wireless connection to this Gateway that allowed it to transfer its own profile and escape by being replicated outside.
echo gazelle
There was a mention in the console stream of Gateway, I believe they asked the location and it stated it being a rear connection between islands 1 and 2 iirc. Also funny enough you mention a router, in the same death filter it says "Signal source locked @192.168.1.1" which I think is the basic router IP if I am not mistaken. Echidna is an interesting one, wouldn't be surprised if she connected neuropathically.
light flare
@untold hull Carrying on with the previous thought, and thinking back on what you said, I noticed that some of the console text is marked as having a "female" voice, but that category seems more unstable in its word structure and in one circumstance says "replicatereplicatereplicatereplicate" over and over again. I wonder if the Echidna is tampering with the AI.
@echo gazelle The more about this the more terrifying it gets. When you die on the Islands sometimes it automatically tries to send you to Tartarus which is a place that is almost inescapable. Trespassers are not tolerated but they can't leave, so they are contained in what is essentially a digital hell. 
untold hull
So essentially the AI has been “perfecting its creatures” but the Echidna has infiltrated it this usurping it’s creator
echo gazelle
Yeah man this lore still has me wondering what's going on lol also about the female voice, I believe when the stream took place, dondi used a female voice to translate and males voices.
light flare
Maybe, or maybe the AI has been applying its perfection of creatures to humans and the Echidna is the byproduct. The Echidna might be tampering with the AI...or they're colluding which would be even scarier. Would make sense given the connection between Tribals, "Cannibals", and Echidna. @untold hull
untold hull
Well it started with base genetics work and the replications of prehistoric animals, then I assume the alterations and human experimentation came down the line. I assume strains have some origin that may be otherworldly as well.
echo gazelle
You should check out the Olympus Transmitter Twitter, it tweeted once about Generations and Echinda. This was the Quote. https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1013981645202968576
untold hull
I think your theory of collusion might be more of a logic plague type thing now that I re read it. Think gravemind with Cortana and if your. A big lore nerd what the original grabemind did to the most powerful ever made forurnner Ai mendicant boas. Perhaps Exhidna has had some form of corrupting influence one the AI, creatures, the island, the company’s employees and the native population
light flare
@echo gazelle An echidna is a mammal that lays eggs. The echidna considered the first generation of tribals her children. Some of the console messages say things like "Only one will be complete" and "All profiles are subject to completion. The results will be merged." I wonder if that means the Echidna quite literally birthed the Tribals. Since the Tribals worship and obey the Replicator...
Actually, now that I think about it the console stuff mentions "Replicator: System profile designated to monitor gateway." Hmm...that almost implies the AI and the Replicator are two different entities. 🤔
@untold hull Makes me wonder where the line between a virus and an idea is when it comes to a sapient computer. I vaguely recall something like that happening in the Halo lore like you're talking about, but the Gravemind convinced the AI to turn against its creators right? What's the difference between persuasion and viral reprogramming? Tough question.
light flare
@echo gazelle Thanks for linking me to that by the way there's some real juicy stuff in this twitter.
echo gazelle
Yeah no problem 🙂 there was mention too that greek myth has some ties I think mainly for codenames or names in general. Echidna in greek myth was the mother of all monsters and she dwelled in a cave most her life.@light flare
light flare
@echo gazelle Ah, right, the Gorgon was one of hers right? Nice, I always forget about pantheon stuff.
echo gazelle
Yeah, she had several I believe with her other half Typhon, Echidna being the daughter of Tartarus, according to the apollodorus.