I mean, eucalyptus is fairly easy to plant, I see them all the time where I live
#isle-lore-theories
hot junco
sinful shale
But these are natural trees, not planted, right?
desert sun
Plant one, plant a dozen I reckon
vital tree
I think Isla Vita and Isla Spiro are our best bets for the name.
slow delta
I like that name theory
ornate flower
you came up with that by yourself?
trim wagon
No that is copied.
spice arch
@icy onyx Dum spiro spero is the saying
meager fog
So i saw that they're adding eucalyptus trees to the game and i had a thought, gum/eucalyptus are from australia (and invasive in africa), maybe the islands are set near australia?
icy onyx
@spice arch That would mean we have an Isla Spero and an Isla Spiro
Which, in my opinion, is Dum
Pun intended
ornate flower
Eucalyptus trees are also planted in many other locations besides Australia
you can find them growing well in Hawaii, for example
hell, we even have Eucalyptus thriving in the UK
unborn socket
What is a lore-theory
digital vale
Unironically? A theory somehow tied to Isle's story or settings. For example, What's the purpouse of Strain creatures? Who is in the charge of Apollo Engineering? Why are we here, just to suffer? etc.
glacial hearth
@icy onyx Dum spiro spero is the saying, "While I breathe, I hope." but I do agree that Spiro is too close to Spero.
I'd look to the rest of that saying. Dum spero amo. Dum amo vivo.
While I hope, I love. While I love, I live.
I'm guessing either Amo or Vivo, or a variation of those.
surreal fog
So I have a question; what's the lore channel been thinking about that little snippet Dondi left in his most recent stream? How Mercs eating dino is a bad idea?
mighty abyss
if the dinos are humans (or at least human minded), that's basically akin to cannibalism
and considering cannibals=tribals...... you figure the lines
(I mean the dinosaurs are also genetically artificial so if you're against GMO's then there's also that argument)
pure zodiac
Y'know that's got me thinking.
If there are strain creatures and magna creatures.
And there are strained humanoids (Colossus, Mastermind, Reaper)
What's to say there's something along the lines of a 'magna' humanoid?
Like, not super strained monster like the others, but basically a super soldier.
pure zodiac
I said a super soldier.
So maybe a strained merc.
The tribals are also normal humans, well to a degree?
shut remnant
I don't think tribals are much taller than regular humans
I think it's the cannibals(the eyeless ones, not tribals) that are really tall
shut remnant
I remember dondi saying that while referring to cannibals
but idk, we haven't seen tribals ingame
high heath
Yeah, the Tribals are the Cannibals.
shut remnant
no the cannibals are the really tall eyeless things
that's not their real name, but it's the placeholder name
and if dondi ever talked about cannibals, he was talking about the eyeless things
shut remnant
they have a name, it's "cannibals"
it's just not the real thing
like I said, placeholder
and if dondi ever talked about "cannibals", especially if it's before the QnA stream, then he was referring to the tall eyeless monsters
pure zodiac
Ehhh, nowadays if he mentions 'cannibals' he's most likely referring to the tribals.
Also damn, if the tribals are 9 ft tall then how tall are the eyeless monstrosities?
shut remnant
ye but dondi never talks about cannibals today
the eyeless monstrosities are 9 feet tall
like I swear to god he said that
calm knot
He did at one point, but we don't know much about it because they are a low priority when compared to the rest of everything else me thinks
pure zodiac
That a big possibility honestly, once Evirma comes out the human factor might become way more prevalent.
shut remnant
ye the plan is to flesh out dinosaur gameplay fully then work on humans
high heath
He said the Tribals are the size of the blue guys from Avatar, and they'll chuck spears at you and slam it into your chest and turn you into a shiskabob
shut remnant
oh
actually ye maybe he said that
I swear cannibals were around that size too, so maybe there's not much of an increase
pure zodiac
But the proportions are definitely different.
Longer arms, smaller torso, more alien lookin' legs, and the head as well.
The things look like SCP-096 but without eyes and have dinosaur legs.
shut remnant
they have bent legs, so maybe they're 9 foot in their regular posture, but are actually taller
pure zodiac
Possible.
Don't forget factoring in the most powerful tool in media 'retconning'
They could retcon the eyeless thing's height to make them a lot taller.
shut remnant
ye that's true
a shit ton of things in the isle get retconned, so it's actually quite likely
pure zodiac
I forgot, what exactly did get retconned over the years?
When you've been playing the game for so long, the amount of info you get tends to get forgotten.
shut remnant
remember when dondi said "the isle will never be linked to primal carnage"
pure zodiac
Yeah.
shut remnant
also we had a decent amount of info on tissos for a while, and then dondi just said "all of that is wrong"
pure zodiac
Oh right he did retcon that bit with primal carnage.
And now it's basically confirmed TI and PC are in the same universe.
shut remnant
ye lmao
shut remnant
yep
pure zodiac
In fact, what we've seen with TI was what Primal Carnage was going to be.
shut remnant
PC genesis?
pure zodiac
No no the OG Primal Carnage.
pure zodiac
Iirc Dondi was forced to turn it into a game of humans v dinos in a more comp setting.
And less about survival, therefore he left and actually won the assets to Primal Carnage.
Which is a reason why MagnaRex looks so much like the PC Rex.
shut remnant
oh that's interesting
oh ye I forgot there's alot of kickstarter-old isle things that are scrapped
like megaraptor, merc classes, JP-raptor
pure zodiac
Oh yeah the made up megaraptor.
It was like, a massive quadruped monster.
And nothing like the real Megaraptor.
shut remnant
ye
tbh I kinda thought they just made-up the name "megaraptor" without knowing it was real lmao
plus idk if the matriarch is still planned
pure zodiac
Knowing Tapwing, Matriarch might still be canon.
shut remnant
ye but tapwings original pieces were purely fanart
shut remnant
although her designs are interesting, as the only thing we got about matriarch is "it starts as small as a velo and grows to the size of a pue"
pure zodiac
Now will it with Tapwing? Highly unlikely.
shut remnant
I mean, it happened with neuro spino
pure zodiac
True.
Also yeah, that's really all we know about the Matriarch gameplay wise.
Matriarch is literally priority #1 to kill before it gets big.
shut remnant
ye
pure zodiac
Also speaking of big monsters.
Lorewise, what the hell is the anti-hyper weapon going to be?
shut remnant
I remember something to do with a very powerful rifle, but idk if a dev said that or a fan
it could also just be a RPG
pure zodiac
Ehduno.
The armor plating on the type-h dinosaurs looks like it could take heavy caliber arms.
i.e. tank shells.
shut remnant
I mean, bryan confirmed that a battleship cannon would be able to kill it(although a bit jokingly), though I doubt you'd have access to that lmao
pure zodiac
I've chatted with some friends and we thought up that the hyper weapon isn't a 'weapon'
but rather a vehicle.
Possibly a very large tank of some kind.
shut remnant
the devs seem kinda against weaponized vehicles
like dondi said that one of the highest tier things you can get is a helicopter, but it's a 2 seater with no weapons
pure zodiac
But we may get vehicles in general.
Remember in the old sandbox maps there were like, humvees.
shut remnant
oh ye vehicles in general are basically confirmed
like what I just said
but also
pure zodiac
Oh yeah I remember those old shots.
Wasn't there fanart of a H-Giga chasing down one of those?
pure zodiac
But anyway with weaponized vehicles.
The anti-hyper weapon could be the only weaponized vehicle in the game.
And the way you get it is stupidly hard, makes sense considering its purpose is to take down the strongest.
shut remnant
ye, I suppose if you make it single-shot(or have stupidly long reload times so it's basically single shot), it would make it only something people would use for hypers
pure zodiac
Ye.
Which is why I brought up the tank idea, there's really only a few vehicles capable of that power.
and we don't exactly have 'battleships'
Though looks wise, we sorta compared the tank to a giant M808B MBT from Halo.
Because even in The Isle, there's some slight futurism in it.
shut remnant
hmm most of the things they showed for the mercs seem to be quite modern
pure zodiac
True.
But the structures have like that weird uncanny valley of in between modern and future.
shut remnant
ye, the mercs themselves seem to be like a modern human but the island itself seems to be futuristic
maybe AE produced some anti-hyper tanks and they can potentially be uncovered
pure zodiac
That'd be really cool too.
shut remnant
ye it would be quite cool, but I still find it more likely that it'll be just something like an RPG
shut remnant
I think a railgun would be too futuristic, since they need a ton of energy and if you are able to have that much in a small space it would open up the possibility for really advanced technologies
pure zodiac
True, maybe not a handled railgun.
But rather a fullsized one.
Because those are actually a thing in society.
shut remnant
ye maybe there could be a turret on one of the bases
pure zodiac
Granted, it is still a prototype irl.
But having it be a turret would actually balance things, since it can't move it can't kill everything that dares cross its path.
shut remnant
ye, although killing a hyper would maybe be hard because they'd know to stay the hell away from it
pure zodiac
And it would also have to be used cleverly, basically you'll have to lure the hyper to the cannon.
Or at least into its range.
'cause irl and in media, railguns are basically oversized sniper rifles.
shut remnant
ye there main advantage is stupidly fast speeds, so they have long ranges
pure zodiac
Yeah, but still you'd have to land your shots carefully.
Sorta like playing sniper in tf2, you kinda have to predict where the foe is going to land a good shot.
shut remnant
tbf though apex hypers are massive, so maybe it wouldn't be too hard(although over super long ranges it still could be)
pure zodiac
True.
Spino and Giga would definitely be easier to hit than maybe hyper carnos or utahs.
Which is sorta why I have a feeling there's actually two anti-hyper weapon types.
One for the big threats (the massive railgun)
and one for the smaller threats (possibly the RPG idea)
shut remnant
ye, I could see there being a firearm hyper-killer for the smaller hypers and a turret for larger ones
pure zodiac
'cause look at Hyper Spino.
An RPG shot to its body won't do jack.
Well, not saying Hyper Spino won't feel it per-say. But it won't kill the thing.
You shooting an rpg at it would definitely piss it off though.
shut remnant
tbh I kinda hope it's possible to kill hypers through attrition, like an RPG wouldn't kill a spino but maybe it would disable it long enough to kill it through starvation(giving enough planning)
it would just make it really interesting
pure zodiac
That would be interesting.
Or the rpg would have some knockback to it.
..Now I'm not saying go rocket jump in The Isle, that's stupid.
But maybe corner the hyper spino at a cliff and use the RPG to knock it off its feet, and have it tumble down the ravine and die to the unholy wrath of gravity.
mighty abyss
look, if the endgame isn't a soldier firing a railgun larger than themselves to blast a hole in a hypo the size of a large building then I don't want to play this game
desert sun
You're confusing The Isle with DOOM 2016
mighty abyss
kerboom
edgy pike
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Spero!
pure zodiac
Guys we need a DoomSlayer strain for The Isle.
keen cradle
Doomslayer merc
deep finch
doomslayer mounts
slow delta
meager fulcrum
guys
i know we ran out of lore to lore about
But Not this
please
not just guns
coarse hare
Yeah, one of the map name is Spiro
shut remnant
was it confirmed
grizzled dune
Screenie from stream
icy onyx
Spiro confirmed
cinder hound
What was the name of the other map?
edgy pike
Spero was the one before with the 3 islands that is currently too large for UE
edgy pike
yh
only translation i can find is from latin which is "I breathe" so unless it's something to do with geothermal/volcano shit on the island i got no idea with that naming for now
edgy pike
👀
edgy pike
There's the saying connection Dondi was on about then. People were thinking the map was gonna be gonna "Isla Vita" because of the saying "where there's life there's hope" or something but yeah there's the actual one ig
cinder hound
It seems to be a saying related to family.
edgy pike
inB4 the archipelago is the latin name for family
cinder hound
God damnit, just when I thought I was done with this "lore", it drags me right back in.
shut remnant
ye people figured out it may be spiro a while ago
cinder hound
Wondering if this means we might get an "Isla Dum" to complete the phrase.
edgy pike
not named because of the latin, but because of that one bollywood song dondi plays on his stream for the meme
Anyway we're getting 5 and if one of them is still gonna be named Thenyaw, that leaves a 4th unnamed island for now assuming Isla Dum would be a thing
shut remnant
I kind of wish they used the other phrase with spero, "spiro" sounds really similar and "dum" just sounds silly
cinder hound
I'm bit lost on where to go with this, all I can really find is that the phrase is to keep hope (no brainer), and then it originated from Cicero.
edgy pike
That being said, the "Dum" part of that phrase is the "while", not an actual verb like the others so it's unlikely an island is gonna be named "while"
shut remnant
"Dum spero amo. Dum amo vivo." aparantly this is the full saying?
cinder hound
The one I found was "Dum Spiro Spero"
shut remnant
ye I saw someone say that's the full phrase above, so idk
edgy pike
That was a spelling mistake apparently
celest marten
you 100% sure?
edgy pike
Well unless they said it was a spelling mistake as a coverup for there being multiple islands but I doubt it
cinder hound
Wouldn't be the first time they've misdirected or covered something up.
meager fulcrum
While I breathe, I hope. The lore already has a lot to do with how death is perceived on the islands and how you don't really die. EVER.
while they breathe, while they live, they HOPE for something.
an end to the cycle? an end to the horrible experiments and monstrosities that populate the island with the dinosaurs and "people" ?
or an end to AE all together?
what do we hope for in this case while we
are alive
shadow hamlet
was it already pointed out that the only building with a different screen effect is the buildings at L2
which gives the "AE"
while every other just gives generic blur
alongside with L2 being a popular spot due to the water, AI spawns and proximity to a majority of spawnpoints
seems more than coincidence
and then the load screen essentially leaning towards some avatar-type neural link type fiasco
which points me towards suspecting that the buildings at L2 are where the majority of neural connections are made to their dinosaur "avatars".
pure zodiac
The untextured facility that had a lot of untextured wind turbines also had the 'AE' in its static.
rotund fable
So does that mean Dinosaurs dont really exist?
They're just human minds controlling corpses?
woeful chasm
I think it’s more a melding of the two
timid seal
I would compare it a bit to Maze-Runners.
You know, growing up and getting taught everything, before being put into the 'Game' yourself
glacial hearth
Just as an fyi, the phrase the island names are from is Latin. While most English speakers would look at "dum" and read "dumb", it's pronounced "doom".
Sounds a little less dumb then lmao
The new island name being Spiro threw me a bit. I honestly wasn't expecting it to be something so close to Spero. 🤷
vague dome
once in a blue moon they will tag you to confirm some very important information
meager fulcrum
( or to remind us how stupid we are )
true horizon
Could cannibals be mutated humans after dino meat consumption?
shut remnant
are you talking about tribals or the eyeless boys?
crimson oasis
i think so @true horizon
true horizon
the weird looking tribals i guess. here is my take, if they had to survive after getting lost in the island so inevitably consumed things they shouldn't then found by the mercs who tried to eradicate the "accident"
though the above can't be the case if hypos and human mutation is the same procedure otherwise all carnivores would be bound to be hypos in the end
meager fulcrum
Not quite. Good theory though.
A lot of the lore revolves around the respawn system, and how the "computer" that controls that system is biased, so if you don't do enough stuff in your life, gather information, if you will, then you are punished.
The eyeless things? punished
What was the matriarch? It gathered all the information, it did a lot of things, and it was rewarded, made "perfect"
tranquil galleon
Well these are merely theories, nothing is concrete as of now.
pure zodiac
Wait if the Matriarch is the 'perfect' being.
Then what about the Colossus, Reaper, and Mastermind? Are they the rewarded like her or the punished as well?
coral forge
i think it would be both like a "blessed curse" or some of this occult stuff
quartz sundial
what?
serene gull
how does that have anything to do with the lore?
keen venture
hahaha
ebon badge
tf
tawdry sand
we will never understand his true message
ebon badge
So according to this dude, there's a recode before "Envirma" that will be released the same day as "her sisters maiden voyage"?
and, "Before the fireworks"?
What in tarnation...
nova bramble
There is a ship called Evrima IRL
Its maiden voyage I think is soon but I dont see how that would have any relevance lol
tawdry sand
we will never know
cold pecan
The message is far too advanced for normal humans
nova bramble
probably a sister ship, but again it means absolutely nothing.
just somebody being an ass
icy onyx
"haha ship close name go fast lore haha plot plot voyaging haha dino roar roar uwu ecksdee"
meager fulcrum
^ dark side of isle community
icy onyx
lets get this b a c k o n t o p I c
ember walrus
heres my theory, the isle is a seperate AU from Jurassic Park so they didn't know the dangers of genetic experimentation. Once their experiments eventually got out they started reproducing and living exactly how their code intended, like dinosaurs. The humans, are hunting them down to either put them back into containment or kill them off for population control when one day a genetic experiment goes wrong, seeing how strong the dinosaurs were the humans tried to create creatures strong enough to kill everything that moves move in, the cannibals. They underestimated the sheer power and the cannibals get lose, to make up for the massive loss in life in humans and dinosaurs they create the hypos, to hunt down and kill the cannibals but that goes wrong too, resulting in a very dwindling population of dinosaur species. They move islands, abandonding the island, leaving the dinosaurs to fend for themselves and move to a new one, envirma, where there's a local tribe that's gonna have a huge impact on them
modern lily
My theory: Cannibal was come from the labs that was first created by scientist but they escaped from terrify enclosure.
ember walrus
ooo yes thats a good one
queen yew
i really like your Theory there @ember walrus
cinder furnace
love the theory @ember walrus
ember walrus
thanks guys!!!
heavy thistle
Cannibals sprout from the dead bodies of Hypos from the radiation and evil seeping through their blood
frank sail
What are these “cannibals”
tidal pulsar
evil seeping through their blood
Evil is relative
frank sail
So can someone tell me what these “cannibals” are Xd
tidal pulsar
does the wiki have anything on it?
I don't know how much of it is reliable buut
Here
frank sail
Yeah it did I get now but ty
Hmmm
I believe that the cannibal was a creature originating from human DNA that was a plan to be used in a last case scenario but they began genetically mutated and become smarter escaping from their cages and that is why the few humans remaining created hypos to exterminate them. Because the human race was on the brink of extinction so to nuclear wars but mainly due to the creation of dinosaurs. As Ian Malcom once said....Life finds a way.
And @ebon badge when they said before the fireworks they probably meant before July fourth
digital vale
^these humanoid neuro creatures aren't Cannibals, we don't currently know their official name. Cannibals are those ogre-looking humans.
Wiki isn't a really good source of lore stuff, I suggest to check pinned documents.
cold pecan
Ugly orc boi
lament bough
Do you think the devs will plan anything for the tall cannibals?
austere imp
I think hes beautiful
cinder furnace
what a beautiful boi
ebon badge
hot
pure iris
Oof. What were some of the older theories? Like cancer patients being put into dinosaurs
or something
OMG NO
icy onyx
ive been assuming this whole time that some matrix/soma stuff was going on and the dinosaurs were being controlled by human minds
mighty abyss
Cannibals and tribals are the same thing
The eyeless neomorph lookin things are... Something else
tawdry cradle
dear lord save us all
hollow prairie
I hope we all spawn as different tribals, with just slightly different mutations so we don't look the exact same
proven perch
i wanna be "steroid-ed" up tribal
supple swallow
hallo
feral quail
hallo
visual ivy
So if I’m not mistaken. Primal Carnage has some canonicity with The Isle?
And if that’s the case. Then are the dinosaurs from Primal Carnage mutations of some kind?
high heath
Well, The Isle takes place years after PCE.
sturdy lily
PCE?
high heath
The company, AE, bombed the island and killed the dinosaurs. They then took the DNA of the animals, perfected them and used them for their own creations. The Utahraptor, for example, has Novaraptor DNA.
Primal Carnage Extinction
high heath
Anyway, the Magnatyrannus is a perfected version of the PC Tyrannosaurus rex
And the Dilophosaurus has venom, like the PC version.
snow flume
hmm...
i'd like to see humans surviving in the island and interact with the constructions
that would be soooo COOL
high heath
Since PC happens before AE, The Isle doesn't exist until officially until after PCs bombing.
sturdy lily
at the moment I'm a big fan of the theory regarding these "dinosaurs" being avatars of sorts in-order to further research their genomes as well as study their lives. My own personal thoughts regarding this theory would be what if instead of having full control of the dino's, we only have lets say 75 - 80% control so AE is able to have a full understanding of the lives and will be able to replicate their behavior in things such as the AVA and Taco's to help stimulate the creatures minds.
high heath
Basically saying, they are making actual animals after studying the Human versions?
sturdy lily
basicly, yes, it doesnt make sense to me why they would go through the trouble of collecting the DNA to go into a project such as "The Isle" without having some sense of control and knowledge about the creatures.
now, i don't think AE was formed prior to the bombings completely, i feel that AE was formed in a minor way, ( perhaps a small researching company), prior to PC bombings and then came in prior to the bombs dropping to collect samples of the live DNA to make their predecessors abit more reliable to create as it would be a fresher sample than chunks of contaminated flesh.
(side note, im newer to lore theories but find them really interesting so if you guys find anything confirmed prior by a dev, then feel free to let me know 🙂 )
high heath
No, no, it was mentioned AE bombed the island and collected the DNA
visual ivy
This cleared things up for me, thank you all!
pure zodiac
While the bombings were true.
MagnaTyrannus is not the 'perfected' PC Rex.
If that were the case, then PC Rex was the perfected version of a Type-H Rex.
untold fulcrum
pure zodiac
As the whole shtick of the Magna strain is to be the perfected version of Hyperendocrin.
Almost all the buffs, but none of the 'eat constantly'
high heath
Right. As it is a perfected PC T.rex
Bigger, faster, stronger, won't starve out like the Hyperendocrin
mighty abyss
I don't think there were any bombings, Operation Inferno was with the mercs
kill the dinos retrieve the eggs
visual ivy
The Isle takes place after Primal Carnage. The dinosaurs from PC are destroyed and have dna samples taken to perfect what dinosaurs were meant to be.
pure zodiac
Though it doesn't really explain the newer species and strains.
Why make a Hyperendocin strain when you can just jump right into Magna?
You already have the PC Rex, the 'perfected' Hyperendocrin Rex.
So why make a Hyperendocrin after you already have Magnas.
Neuros I can see being something completely new, like 'hey let's try and make our dinos even smarter'
visual ivy
I think it was a test or something. Or maybe they needed to do more experimentation? I’m not sure but I’m sure that others may know better than me.
pure zodiac
Actually speaking of Neuros that has got me thinking.
All Neuros are hiveminded together, with Echidna being their 'ruler'.
If Echidna dies... do all the Neuros perish as well? Or would they just.. cease functionality like xenomorphs.
visual ivy
I think they get free will. Or maybe they do die...?
pure zodiac
I have a feeling that maybe they just become mindless.
Their instincts now governing their every move.
visual ivy
Interesting
pure zodiac
Also there's this really weird theory I have that.
Echidna sorta 'births' neuros of all kinds.
Or at least converts them.
Like Echidna in actual greek myth, when she got frisky with Typhon.
visual ivy
Oooh
pure zodiac
Resulting in the Chimera, Nemian Lion, etc.
But in The Isle, this Echidna converts.. or maybe births.. out neuros.
So the eyeless whatchamacallits, Neuro Raptors, Rexes, Spinos, etc.
visual ivy
Perhaps Echidna steals the eggs of dinosaurs and then changes the makeup before they hatch?
pure zodiac
That could explain neuro dinos.
But then explain it with these freaky fuckers.
They're related to Echidna after all.
chrome acorn
That’s an unofficial concept btw
visual ivy
The Unknown must either be resurrected mutated versions of fallen mercs. Or they’re mercs converted to do the Echidna’s bidding.
pure zodiac
I know that, run.
But they look better than the Unknown's current models soo. personal preference.
Hmm... some scientific form of necromancy in The Isle..
Well to be fair there is some actual magic in The Isle.
icy onyx
Best bet is that they’re mutated tribals... who’re also mutations I believe.
pure zodiac
Yeah, Cannibals are supposedly mutants.
Something happened and they mutated to look like ogres or somethin'
icy onyx
I have a theory on what tribals are and how they become “cannibals”
well actually just the becoming part. I have no clue what they are or else i’d just be bullshitting
pure zodiac
Oh like how the tribals go from looking like ogre monsters
to eyeless monsters that give nightmare fuel?
icy onyx
yeah
Tribals will be able to collect info and such, and either sacrifice others, or themselves willingly to The Replicator. The Replicator has been stated to be able to choose favorites. Gain enough favor and it might just transform you I suppose.
The replication system has also been stated to be similar to the elder system. What that entails specifically is beyond me but I have some sparse ideas.
visual ivy
You die and come back stronger?
pure zodiac
Oh yeah..
The Replicator is not only sentient, but is also a total douche.
Thanks AE
or whatever rival company
for designing a sentient computer with the worst god complex and biases imaginable.
pure zodiac
Actually speaking of the Replicator, I just realized...
Maybe.. the Replicator is the final boss of the game.
icy onyx
I don’t think it’d ever be a final boss
pure zodiac
No no hear me out.
After a while, The Replicator begins to become more and more 'cocky' over time.
Seeing juuust how far it can push its little lab rats.
However, after a while, the mercs or whoever find out about The Replicator's existence. Realizing that this computer is basically using all of them like pawns in a game of chess, they decide to destroy it. But in retaliation, The Replicator makes the humanoid strains.
Or, ya know, just something so ungodly horrifying.
So you gotta kill the strain mascots (Colossus, Reaper, Mastermind), then get to the Replicator. And basically blow it sky high.
visual ivy
But what role would the dinosaurs have in all of this?
pure zodiac
Well it is implied that all the dinos have some really high intelligence level.
icy onyx
If the replicator is ‘blown sky high’ how is anything going to work? Assuming that the replicator is respawning all the dinosaurs.
pure zodiac
Simple. They aren't replicated.
Well lore wise the replication stops.
Game wise, ehduno that's for the mechanic makers to decide.
icy onyx
Oh wait something clicked in my head that may or may not be bs
nevermind something else clicked I redact that last statement
pure zodiac
Hm?
icy onyx
I don’t think it’ll go exactly the way you’ve envisioned it but it’s always a possibility
pure zodiac
No no I wanna hear what ya thinking. I'm open to discussion.
jovial marlin
casually eavesdrop on the conversation
icy onyx
I was going to say that dinosaurs could be coming from somewhere “off screen” when they’ll eventually drop down from the sky in cages, and that the replicator could be on the island supplying it with tribals, aka it’s ‘protectors’
Then the thought came along... why does the replicator have to be on the island? There will be multiple islands I reckon so it wouldn’t surprise me if the replicators not even on an island we can get to. Whether that changes or not I don’t know. Maybe AE just created a machine god thing and is letting it go loose. Not the author so I’ll just have to wait I suppose.
pure zodiac
hmmm... that could be very well possible.
Maybe The Replicator was on the island, or at least one of them.
But it got so out of hand it literally transcended reality and became a cocky as hell computer god.
icy onyx
If there are going to be temples built to it I don’t know how exactly it would know that there are things sacrificing people to it
Unless it’s actually a giant ass machine that spans across every island.
which makes more sense actually
pure zodiac
Like, it's underground?
icy onyx
probably
pure zodiac
That would play well actually.
Considering the islands are connected by underground tunnels that span across the ocean.
icy onyx
Yeah I’m just gonna go with “the replicator is big as shit”
Now that I think about it even more it’s probably just a factory lmfao
a self aware one
pure zodiac
A sentient factory?
pure zodiac
True.
It can't really pull an ARK Genesis and just 'ploop' a dinosaur from nothing.
It'll probably have to make them physically, by every bone, muscle, tendon, and whatever by 'hand'
icy onyx
The Replicator being an impossibly sized factory that spans and controls multiple islands is pretty cool sounding
edgy pike
I don’t know how much of the old transmission stuff is accurate in Dondi’s lore, but there was the stuff with “Gateway” too
Which might explain the linking
Maybe the old tweet where it’s like “look to the sky at the right time, the path to gateway has been there all along” is referencing the drop in spawn system? We still don’t know if it’s a big helicopter, plane or even portal that’s gonna be dropping us from up there, so I guess we can’t be sure about that one until the game development progresses
Damn looking back through there I remember all those times when @calm vale would show up in a vc here and start playing morse code
past trench
Yeah those were fun
edgy pike
And everyone would be screaming at people to stfu so they could hear it lol
cold pecan
Well, the replicator is called the replicator, and it replicates things. That and how the dinosaurs are all physically identical, and don’t actually reproduce with the eggs just kinda appearing, leads to the conclusion that it’s cloning in some way. So I think a huge factory is less likely then, say, a huge hatchery, or it just creating them out of nothing. We don’t even know what the replicator is, so confining it to human technology is a bit premature. All we know is it’s a god-like entity. They could go down The Forest route and have it being an ancient machine or something like that
pure zodiac
To be fair, the 'factory' idea never said it had to be of human make.
It could be totally alien.
Or even extra-dimensional.
tawny dome
ok my theory: every dino on the isle is just a robot that simulate how prehistoric life worked and the human building on the maps were control centers from where the dino bots would be moderated but one day somebody hacked the system and now all dino robots are going rogue, and gallis are evil sith lords
fair mural
My theory about how the dinos were made resembles how the dinos in jurassic park were made. hatched from eggs, dna injected into retilian eggs and out come dinos that are partly hybridized.
thick spear
How does dinosaurs seeing the buildings and stuff ad to the lor if the game because to me there is none.
young crystal
Didn’t you take account of the fact that maybe the dinosaurs are going to get wiped by humans think about it they won’t live forever when humans start and harboring it and start killing them off they won’t be able to live in most areas anymore going to Parish that’s my theory
icy onyx
popped up in my mind but...
Has it been theorized that maybe The Replicator is actually a Phoenix Corp asset? Could be one of the many ways they made dinosaurs. Another thing comes to mind is that, what if the mercenaries are being contracted to go to the island not to steal just assets, but to steal the asset? Would make sense as to why The Replicator has its protectors... which are tribals. It would also explain why tribals and mercs will be going toe to toe.
Assuming The Replicator is extremely intelligent and doesn't want to be acquired by Apollo Engineering, it created tribals of its own will and basically set them loose on the island.
If mercenaries come out first (which I bet they will) I can only assume the lore reason for tribals coming after is that The Replicator does not want these guys on the island, and is releasing them into the wild to take care of them.
Dondi wants to tell a story we can all participate in and this sounds like a sure way to do it.
icy onyx
Honestly a stretch but looking at the new fish concepts and looking them up it seems two of the fish species are native to North America and three from South America, so my theory is that the island has to be somewhere in Middle America likely from the coast of Colombia or Venezuela where all of these species have been planted to thrive and contribute to the ecosystem
icy onyx
Theory: The Humans created dinos for researgh for an example behaviour, They would also had made an chip in the dinos to not attack the humans. Then someday they created the Type-H Dinosurs and all hell broke loss and all the dinosaurs were set free without any effort cuz of the Type-H dinos. The surviving humans became tribal and mercs from other lands came to the islands to either sleepdart an dino or kill it for money. The Humans would had inserted an camera on an dino (the eyes maybe) for scientific reason.
coarse hare
No one has a complete document or anything else about The Isle's lore?
hot junco
I know there’s a website
novel kindle
theres some stuff in pins
jade notch
Paradym has a lot of isle lore
That he wont gib.
icy onyx
🙂
sand seal
Nice.
toxic breach
btw does anyone have a breakdown of the words used for naming the strains?
hyper endocrine is obvious
neurotenic...
neuro part is clear, but what is the end part of the word?
and also tissoplastic
cold pecan
It’s Neurontenic btw I think, but I’m not sure
Tissoplastic sounds like something that would shapeshifter for some reason
final perch
tissoplastic
tisso - tissue, plastic - plastic
plastic tissue
toxic breach
I think the tenic part is hardest to figure out
cold pecan
The reaper does have like man made scythes
On his arms
I think the tenic part is hardest to figure out
Sounds a bit like tentacle
I don’t know
toxic breach
it's not something that basic
final perch
tenic is the hardest part to figure out
cold pecan
it's not something that basic
You know I’m stupid Jenkens
final perch
neuro obviously has to do with the brain/nerves
toxic breach
yeah the neuron part is clear
related to the brain and nervous system
neotenic
haptenic
prutenic
syntenic
paratenic
polytenic
angiotenic
tungstenic
asphaltenic
other words ending with 'tenic'
but i can't figure out what's consistent about them
devs pls
final perch
those last two are related to minerals
the rest seem to be things relating to molecules/cells
idk
violet notch
after asking a couple friends they came to the conclusion that "tenic" probably means "exhibiting of", for example neotenic means "exhibiting neoteny"
toxic breach
so basically exhibiting of neural traits?
cold pecan
It doesn't mean anything. If there's no clear definition or translation then its probably just added 'cause it sounds cool
Or its an acronym
icy onyx
Hey
strong blade
Can someone tell me how the skill or trait system will work? I think it might involve Hypos and strains
digital vale
We don't clearly know. Also, this is not a place for that question, you should rather ask it in Discussion.
magic elbow
My theory is that hopefully we will get some lore in the weeks prior to the evrima update, either that or after the update. Maybe some transmissions or tweets.
snow flume
@magic elbow Nice kick there
cold pecan
Yes, kick everybody who makes a joke. Sounds like fun.
meager fulcrum
I mean jelly isn't wrong. We can only go over information so many times before it becomes repetitive, and the only new questions are from people who are new to the lore
But a n y w a y the discussion on the names origins, with tissoplastic, if you look at the concept for say, tisso spino, they look shrinkwrapped
So that and the plastic part may have something to do with eachother
cuz that boi look funky
pure zodiac
You know.. that sorta make sense if the skin of Tisso creatures were somewhat "plasticy"
Like.. an organic form of plastic.
So they're more durable than their normal and neuro counterparts, but aren't the absolute tanks that Hypers are.
ornate flower
if i understand the terms rightly, "Tissoplastic" refers to an ability to change the form of their tissues
plastic comes from "plasticity" which refers to flexibility or being moldable
so in a sense "Tissoplastic" means "moldable flesh"
coral bronze
And they were confirmed to be able to camouflage iirc
so that makes sense
pure zodiac
Maybe Tissoplastic will have pseudo-shapeshifting capabilities?
ornate flower
maybe
ornate flower
aye, i know
pure zodiac
But like, modifying their backs to look like shrubbery.
Because remember, Tissos can also shoot spikes like a chaingun.
ornate flower
or simpler stuff like folding spines or skin flaps
ornate flower
you see that with cuttlefish too, and octopus in general
pure zodiac
Don't want a Tisso utah transforming into a Trex.
But overall from how I remember it going is:
Hyper: The absolute "monsters" of the three, all eating, all power and strength, nom nom nom.
Tisso: Stealth hunters, crafty bastards, very good at trickery.
Neuro: Gods of the mind, capable of screwing with your head, and bodily adaptations designed to destroy an opponent's mental capabilities (maybe even make their brains explode).
ornate flower
some Neurotenics can even affect weather
pure zodiac
Yeh.
Their mental capabilties are so extreme they have basically superpowers, depending on the species.
but iirc they scrapped the idea of "telekinesis"
scarlet basin
why have a giant fossil underwater in v3 map?
ornate flower
i think that's supposed to be an "Island Walker" or something
scarlet basin
but she is soo big
balmy veldt
It is rumoured to be the Matriarch
Aaaaannnndd Dondi said that whatever it is, it didn't die from hunger. That means some bigger creature killed it.
echo solar
so whats the like, current theory. cause i cant read all of that lmao
ornate flower
if i recall, it was Dondi who mentioned there being an "Island Walker", which is bigger than the Matriarch
tranquil galleon
there's a lot of ways it could've died
starvation and a bigger creature killing it aren't the only options
scarlet basin
a big spino more big than the matriarch and have a head of a dryo
thw walker have a tiny corpse comparied with the big bone in titan
tender geyser
It could have died when it's offspring erupted from its chest like a xenomorph, for example.
cold pecan
Or Apollo could have killed it. Or the Replicator. Or tribals. Or mercs. I dont think we should just say "always a bigger fish" and expect some leviathan the size of the moon
Bear you can have a look at the lore website its in pinned I believe. Its a bit outdated but its like 80% of what we know
And the Tissoplastic Reaper concept art is just like some furry scaly dude. Sure its been scrapped but that was still the original design, so clearly plastic doesnt mean its actually plastic, and I doubt it's a shapeshifter. Pretty sure Tisso's were scrapped because they weren't special enough anyway
mighty abyss
the island is actually just a giant leviathan
pure zodiac
Tissos were never confirmed scrapped. If they were, Para or another dev would've announced it.
pure zodiac
Ah yes, the old strain designs.
shut remnant
I mean, I think dondi said that tisos won't be like we know them
pure zodiac
Yeah. But that's about it.
Tissos might actually get shapeshifting to a degree, our previous thoughts were just shooting needles and cloaking.
supple stump
i have no evidence for this but the isle's humans (the ones that arent there) might've left for the survival of the dinos.
the buildings are old, but intact. during a hypodocrine attack, you'd see some wear and tear on the structures, there is, yes, but they're mostly fine
pure zodiac
Like.. normal humans/the mercs?
supple stump
the radio tow- (yes) er, i think, is working as well.
pure zodiac
Because there are the ogre-looking Cannibals and the Unknown eyeless monster humans.
supple stump
they're also old enough that flora are growing on them. that, coupled with the fact that there are still mercenaries
shut remnant
ye it means they're getting remade
pure zodiac
^
celest marten
maybe someone manage to live there and adapt (old concept)
shut remnant
I mean, apollo engineering MADE the dinosaurs
also the only "humans" that really LIVE on the island are the tribals
supple stump
actually, on the stats: making it so they didn't work would tick off a lot of the player base, but that doesn't excuse the fact they're still working. This establishes that they still have some influence on the creatures and the island.
So discard the rest of my theory, EA or whoever is behind the experimenting of these creatures hasn't abandoned the island, they're still alive, and watching
celest marten
Sure they or something else is watching - every dino got a chip planted
celest marten
and wen you respawn ?
someone or something is bringing new dinos to the island
supple stump
baby dinos still get chips
pure zodiac
They might be monitoring the island to find something though.
Remember, The Replicator.
supple stump
that's pretty advanced for something, how did they get overrun?
celest marten
remember there are multiple island
pure zodiac
Also Tera you're wrong with the baby dinos.
celest marten
dont forget tartarus
pure zodiac
Baby dinos don't have chips.
supple stump
pure zodiac
That's actually a benefit to being nested.
celest marten
yea
echo gazelle
pure zodiac
Also Chika now that you mention Tartarus.
You know how the Neurotenic Mastermind is named Echidna?
celest marten
yes
celest marten
pure zodiac
The colossus might be named Typhon, given the connections.
The Replicator is Gaia.
And in greek myth. "With Tartarus itself as the father, Gaia gave birth to Typhon."
celest marten
🤔
pure zodiac
And in Greece, Gaia wasn't just happy in pretty.
supple stump
they managed to create the hypos-
so the hypos must've overrun the- i dont think that's how it went
supple stump
oh
celest marten
this thing was made with echidnas dna or am i wrong? i cant remember the story behind it
pure zodiac
Typhon is this.
The Hyperendocrin Colossus.
Which fits well actually.
Typhon in Greek myth is described as.. well basically Greece's Godzilla.
Giant size, humanoid torso, feathered wings, flaming breath, a fuckload of snakes for legs.
supple stump
no wings
no snake legs
doesent matter most of it matches up
pure zodiac
Well that's just to describe what Greece's Typhon looked like.
General consensus is that he's a giant monster that actually kicked Zeus' ass.
The Hyperendocrin Colossus? Also a giant monster that can bring down even the strongest of dinosaurs.
supple stump
was the colossus made to defeat the (rest of the) hypos or the other way around?
shut remnant
I don't think it's either
pure zodiac
That's the.. mystery.
echo gazelle
the humanoids are all being reworked
supple stump
so we focus on that yeah?
pure zodiac
The Humanoid/Mascot strains have this veil of mystery that no one has figured out yet.
The closest thing we've gotten is Echidnas relation to the eyeless nightmare monsters.
shut remnant
I don't think we even have anymore concept are past their first ones
I may be wrong
echo gazelle
we haven't, those are vegas concepts
shut remnant
ye if they'r ethat old I imagine they're gonna be retconned quite a bit
those are unofficial
supple stump
they created this thing fro the fun of it or something
they cant control it, they create the hypos
they cant control them, they create the magna rex
they dont want the same disaster to happen so they just leave the island
pure zodiac
Uhh.. the colossus was made fairly recently.
shut remnant
no it wasn't?
muted steppe
No.
shut remnant
oh there's a new one
muted steppe
Colossus's original concept was by Rodrigo Vega, not Tapwing. Outside of some fan-art piece, I'm pretty certain she hasn't made any public concept art for the humanoid strains. That and the last we saw of Colossus was a WIP model
shut remnant
ye tapwing made some fanart of the collusus a while back
pure zodiac
We know that the original concept was by Vega.
But anyway back to the Colossus' name.
It might be Typhon, given the similarities between it and the actual greek monster.
muted steppe
shut remnant
when did tap join the dev team again?
pure zodiac
Yes, we know that one.
Uhhh...
I want to say.. 2018?
At the least, I can't remember tbh.
shut remnant
ye me niether
also was typhon ever mentioned in the game's lore?
I don't really recall
pure zodiac
Don't remember.
echo gazelle
No, it's just Greek Myth was heavily implied to be a connection so people going buck wild
pure zodiac
But it does mention Tartarus.
And since The Replicator is supposedly the thing that spawns the dinos..
echo gazelle
I still think Isle is an ancient science facility based on Alchemy
pure zodiac
Replicator is Gaia..
Whatever facility is Tartarus..
Colossus is Typhon.
shut remnant
alchemy?
pure zodiac
Y'know, potions and whatnot.
echo gazelle
yeah purification and what not
pure zodiac
Well yes that is a part of it.
echo gazelle
basically aiming to purify
shut remnant
oh ye
but the technology they use seems a bit to modern for them to still follow alchemy
echo gazelle
I found this blue thing in-game that said Protos Emirates and I went crazy thinking it related to Alchemy and Proto Science
shut remnant
a blue thing?
echo gazelle
This blue uhh container at the docks
shut remnant
host your own server, EZ
pure zodiac
Also the whole ancient sciene facility thingy Luncha.
That is giving me SCP vibes.
Mainly Dr. Bright's proposal.
echo gazelle
yeah it was just random texts probably, I found a newspaper as well at the docks mentioning the sinking of the titanic and it got debunked cause I thought it related to Isle's timeline
echo gazelle
it was a store bought assest doubt they're focusing on small details rn
pure zodiac
An ancient factory that creates monsters.
Though I doubt the devs would make relations between anything other than PC.
i.e. linking connections to SCP.
echo gazelle
PC was denied before but now its back, im out of loop at this point
shut remnant
I mean, there's nothing really stopping them 'caus SCP is common ground
pure zodiac
True.
shut remnant
but I'd highly doubt they'd do that lmao
echo gazelle
uhm Lisa Trevor
dapper tree
In #phathey posted fire breathing, which is one of the two things that didn't match colossus to typhon. Maybe I'm connecting dots that dont exist, but...
shut remnant
dondi literally screamed in that post that it's not canon and was just done for fun/for an emitter test
icy onyx
Are we going to be able to play as corporate mercenaries is the isle?
shut remnant
mercenaries are still very much planned
desert sun
End of June, was it? That's when we're allowed to ask Para Merc questions
floral orbit
mid of june 14-20
karmic lance
Is the plan to have NPC's on the isle?
like smaller dinos (compy's) so its easy foe carnivores to survive
for*
arctic cradle
@karmic lance u mean AI like we have now? well yes ofc
karmic lance
Exactly.. like all the dinos I see in servers are people playing. and feels pretty empty.. like a heard of animals were you could run into and snatch one to eat
arctic cradle
@karmic lance all the playable dinos that you see now or planned to be Ai, so even a rex is gonna be AI
finally someone who appreciates the devs
cold pecan
In the wrong channel no less
karmic lance
ill copy and paste on the feedback channel 😆 .
slow delta
jade notch
Was alphonse a failure?
cold pecan
What’s Alphonse
river marsh
On the contrary Alphonse (Hyper quetz) was a wild success imo. Bastard escaped containment and is still alive somehow and roaming around.
cold pecan
Ohhh
Is the hypo quetz the one that’s like a wrecking ball
It can just throw itself through virtually anything
icy onyx
this is what hypo quetz basically is.
cold pecan
So ye that’s the one I’m thinking of
With the creepy red eyes
Definitely the most badass flyer I’ve ever seen
cold pecan
There's no official concept art or otherwise of it as of yet
cold pecan
I know but I’ve seen Tap’s art of it and I don’t see why they wouldn’t go with that model, it’s badass
balmy veldt
There's lots of different concepts for that
There's the bigger with for wings, and the other bugger with theri claws
And so on
balmy veldt
There's just a lot of different concept art for it and it gets jumbled up
pure zodiac
Tbh I could imagine Alphonse being really bulky, flying slowly but able to slam into things like a meteor.
muted steppe
Fan designs, not official
rotund fable
Has anyone clearly described what the matriarch is?
pure zodiac
What she looks like? Currently unknown outside Tapwing's fan designs.
But we do know that the Matriarch is the "perfect" being.
At least "perfect" in the eyes of The Replicator.
cold pecan
Isn’t that the one that takes the form of what it eats
opal yoke
i have a theory. humans looked for island far away from land and did research for does the enviroment match for their "animals"
they cloned dinosaurs and released them to the island. they wanted to study dino behaviour
but then one worker wanted to use dinos as weapons and he started creating hypos
the hypo destroyed the lab and some of humans barely survived. and to this day
if you walk to a building as a dino and the builkding has camera the camera still takes pictures.
bc they are still studying
floral orbit
humabs would do that
snow flume
god damnit, i aways forget about what the replicator is and what it does
cold pecan
I doubt we'll ever know exactly what the Matriarch is or what it looks like. It doesn't really matter either, its just an example to encourage people to follow the replicator and become "perfect" organisms
shut remnant
originally the matriarch was meant to be an animal that starts as small as a compy and can grow to the size of a pue
but idk how that's changed with time
pure zodiac
Well considering Compy is gonna be in the game.
The "starting small like compy" might still be a factor.
But it's max size is unknown.
floral orbit
compy is under utah
pure zodiac
Yeah, it is.
The Matriarch, supposedly in terms of gameplay, is an Alpha Priority target.
Kill it before it gets too big basically.
balmy veldt
I thought the big ribs on an old island map was a Matriarch with Hypo spino DNA or something
balmy veldt
Oh. That's probably some older theory then
pure zodiac
Ye the ribs being the matriarch were debunked long ago.
shut remnant
that would require an access to jurassic park's IP which would bankrupt the company to get
winged topaz
Bruh great theory
feral agate
wat
half merlin
wat
native zealot
wat
bleak depot
Maybe the matriarch is the carnage rex???
digital vale
PC Rex is, if I remember well, a Magnatyrannus
bleak depot
Kk
paper furnace
The Isle already has the Primal Carnage IP going for it, no need to throw it into the JP world.
cold pecan
Matriarch is FAR bigger
Matriarch is also far more deformed and terrifying
latent void
Ok so my "theory" earlier got me strike 1, because theories have to be "serious". So... seriously, this is The Isle, so it cannot be related to Jurassic Park. Also, the giant bones, theoretically were a dinosaur, but there are no facts to prove it ever actually lived, so it could be an elaborate human made structure to, eventually, attract tourism.
The only signs of humans are "human-like" structures, such as radio towers, dams, etc. But, judging from what I have experienced in the game, there has been no signs of humans, therefore, the only instance where we can say the buildings were made by humans, is from a human standpoint, outside the game looking in.
So, from a role playing standpoint, thinking like the dinosaur I am playing, I would wonder where these structures came from, and can I eat the dinosaur that built it.
rotund spire
The giant bones are the hypo colossus remains
shut remnant
we don't know what the giant bones are
I believe it was hinted they could be the "island crawlers" they talked about?
fringe flame
can we all agree that the tribles/canibles are most likey going to be a attempt of human and dinosaur hybrid?
regal locust
No.
fringe flame
what else would they be it is a game about dinos and there is dna stuff going on with the hypos and stuff
rotund fable
oh yeah what is the replicator?
I always thought it was some sort of ancient artifact
dapper tree
I'm pretty sure it's a machine or computer that scans the experiences from a dead dino and transmits the EAP to a new host.
rotund fable
EAP?
I've heard something about it
Isn't it the conscience/mind of the actual human?
dapper tree
That's one of the theories, another is that it's a player profile. Only thing we know is that each of us have one.
dapper tree
Anyone feel free to correct me, but I dont believe we got much info from that. Although theres been a lot of things so I might just be forgetting
rotund fable
no actually it wasnt EAP wasnt it EIP?
dapper tree
Yeah that sound right
rotund fable
and one youtuber had proposed the theory that when you logged in, you added to/completed your EIP?
dapper tree
Maybe. Although my main theory is that EIPs are connected more so to the replicator than to logging in. I think that the login is for the 'scientists' to access their work/view the assests.
dapper tree
Possibly
rotund fable
then whos supposed to be the actual staff/employees of AE?
surely someone has to be running this all?
dapper tree
I think the lead scientists name is somewhere in the pinned info
rotund fable
Wasn't his name Dr.Vega?
dapper tree
There is also a Dr. Chance
dapper tree
I just skimmed the info for names of scientists and stopped when I saw chance
But vega sounds familiar
digital vale
Vega is the guy who drew the original Isle concept art
balmy veldt
Don't the Unknown look vaguely like human/Dino hybrids?
balmy veldt
Stretchy bird legs
cold pecan
Yes
pure zodiac
Supposedly the Unknown are either
A. Direct offspring of Echidna
B. Cannibals that have been "turned" by Echidna.
C. A sort of combination of the former two.
celest marten
i think those things are made by AE
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1017235117528371200
tulip pollen
My theory is that the island was a island owned by the govermend the island itself wasnt important and it was just another radio base. The dinos were not made in that island bcs there arent things that the dinos could have released from but that the dinos where transported to that island from another island to be opserved (thats why the cameres take pictures)but then something went wrong and the humans escaped or died.
fervent mantle
Lore Theory: in earth's future, efforts to bring back various extinct forms of life. Reserving a few areas of the world, the dinos got only one island, whereas before they ruled the earth. Scientists used a combination of a few recovered proteins from ancient bones (See T-rex bone recovery IRL story), and devolving pre-hatched bird eggos. The Isle was reserved for the recovery and re-discovery of dinosaurs. This was purely for science, species recovery, and knowledge, not for tourists. However, The Isle was deserted after decades of research. Human society had undergone one of its common collapses. Years passed, and nature took over The Isle, the remaining human 'artifacts'. Roads were overgrown, buildings became decrepit. The Isle thrived with its "recovered" wildlife. Outside, the world spiraled into another wild mess. Evolution began where it left off so many millions of years ago...................... For a human add-in, a few humans make it to The Isle, decades after humanity has a major collapse. For ~150 years they degrade knowledge and become The Isle natives "Dino-sapiens" or something they call themselves. Semi-anarchy earth grows an interest in black-market dino stuff (People didn't remember The Isle existed). Are dinos worth recovering and blending in with the world, or should they be left behind along with most of Earth's past living creatures?
I dunno, maybe to satify the public's Pre-wild curiosity, they put webcams all over. Hence, all the surveilance.
tulip pollen
Maybe
digital vale
I suggest reading the pinned documents. It might help you with polishing your theories little bit, as there are some evidences about where the dinosaurs and strains are from, what's the purpouse of the archipelago/island, etc.
fervent mantle
ok, thx. then we can build something off that
pure zodiac
Here's one thing that's been wracking my brain.
What if.. there isn't just one kind of anti-Hyperendocrin weapon?
celest marten
dinos were transported from island to island remember Tartarus
Tartarus is 1 of those 3 Island
pure zodiac
Tartarus might be where the strains come from.
celest marten
pure zodiac
Well at least the Type-H creatures.
digital vale
Most likely. Tartarus seems like a place where Strain research is centered.
pure zodiac
Ye.
And in greek myth, a very famous monster came from Tartarus.
Typhon.
So the island Tartarus might have a similar role.
digital vale
Hey, aren't you that person with anime-panda icon?
pure zodiac
No?
digital vale
Oh sorry, nevermind. Ignore that
pure zodiac
Is aight
Now back to island theory.
To sorta quote from the story "With Tartarus itself as the father, Gaia gave birth to the monstrous Typhon."
Tartarus, as in the island, could be like Tartarus, the place, in the story.
With the Replicator being Gaia.
digital vale
Hmm, that actually makes sense, very interesting.
I don't know much about Titan-part of the Greek myths, but ... what was their "goal", if they actually had any? I don't want to look deep into it, but maybe it has some connection with a reason why are these monsters' Isle counterparts developed and researched.
pure zodiac
Well
To explain Typhon's motive we gotta discuss the "Greek Succession Cycle"
Basically how it goes is:
Ouranos (The primordial of all things god) is succeeded by Chronos
Chronos is succeeded by Zeus and friends
Typhon is up next to succeed Zeus.
These successions uuuusssuuuallly involve violence.
As with Typhon tearing out literally every tendon in Zeus' body.
So if we connect Typhon to the Type-H colossus, it sorta makes sense.
digital vale
Heh, I should really revamp my knowledge of greece myths. Wasn't there some "war of gods" and "end of the world" involved with Typhon's birth, or am I mistaken it with something else?
Well then, if Colossus is Typhon, who is Zeus then? Who is AE/Replicator "fighting" against, if Phoenix is no longer their rival?
pure zodiac
When Typhon fought Zeus and friends it was not only after his birth but also after he got frisky with Echidna.
And it was less a "war of the gods" and more of a "HOLY SHIT RUN" scenario.
Also you could say that Zeus is AE.
The Replicator being Gaia.
Personally with Typhon I recommend OSP's video on him.
(Seriously go check her stuff out she's really good with her myth and story vids).
digital vale
Got it, thanks for correction, and I'l definetly check it out 🙂 But myths aside, it still makes me wonder why the hell Replicator, AE, Phoenix, or whoever is pulling the strings would create strain creatures in a first place. I really despise the weapon/war theories, and for medical-research-reasons it's... not entirely impossible, but weird to say atleast.
pure zodiac
Well, that may never have a straight answer why.
All we know is that the strains aren't accidents.
digital vale
I wouldn't be even mad if this situation would actually happen - that we wouldn't ever get a proper answers, as we are only a figures on a chessboard. Well, thank you for your little history lesson, it really answered few of my questions ^^
pure zodiac
My pleasure.
slow dawn
More Evidence Primal Carnage uses Hyper strains
edgy pike
Those are fanmade skins
For an event to allow skin makers to share their modified models
That's just meant to look like an Allo
slow dawn
@edgy pike look at the text 🤦🏼♂️
slow dawn
Ok now why would primal allow that
edgy pike
Because it's a fucking community event
slow dawn
No
edgy pike
Yes?
slow dawn
You got it all wrong
slow dawn
Look at the skin saying🤦🏼♂️
edgy pike
It's clearly not a community event
slow dawn
Not the name
edgy pike
I'm the fool here
edgy pike
Clearly
vale yew
It says "Hyper-extended"
meaning the crests are extended greatly
making it LOOK like an allosaur with the CRESTS
hoary hinge
they allowed that because primal carnage is dying and they needed something to bring the very few players that are still interested back, its sad really with no more than 200 players daily and thats on the weekends
pure zodiac
And yet I still have pretty much one of the most expensive items in the game.
stray sigil
that moment you realize the new isle spino looks ODDLY like 1 or 2 of the new primal carnage mutations
hoary hinge
hmmmmmmm
twin crater
Mutations are fan made. Not lore.
lilac pine
Phantom Dino be like 
mighty abyss
the new isle spino LOOKS LIKE A REAL SPINOSAURUS, LIKE THE OTHER PRIMAL CARNAGE MUTATION, IT'S NOT ODD IT'S LITEREALLY PALENTOLOGY
ornate flower
the new Spino looks very little like the IRL one
scenic hare
Does it have the long, thicc tail?
ornate flower
the in-game one is more like the 2000s model, like we see in JP3
scenic hare
Oh I prefer the new one tbh
ornate flower
so it's pretty different from the IRL Spino
scenic hare
The accurate one is the better imo
slow delta
versed light
i hesitate to call the isle's spino a spino, i prefer to call it a suchozilla
because if you think about it the the isle's spino(current and evirma) is just a oversized sucho
the only thing it has in common with spinosaurus is the sail
winged topaz
Why
hoary hinge
Ok guys we do understand it's just a game and they've made it very apparent that dont care about accuracy right?
junior oriole
They can literally just make spino a helicopter if they wanted to
hoary hinge
True 
hearty fox
@edgy pike @slow dawn @vale yew @hoary hinge @stray sigil @mighty abyss @ornate flower @versed light For future reference, this channel is for discussing isle lore theories, not other games, in-game model accuracy, paleontology, or whatever else was discussed during the past few hours in this channel. These are specified channels for these topics and this one ain't it.
vital tree
Honestly with shorter legs and a thicker tail the new Isle spino would be fairly accurate
winged topaz
It doesn’t have to be accurate
Dang
What is it with people saying the Dino’s have to be accurate it’s a fucking game
icy onyx
yeah accurate spino wouldn't work in the game
hoary hinge
Who cares just a game bois be luck you have spino at all
icy onyx
I wouldn't consider it "lucky" with the new model we have 
winged topaz
I like it looks more like it can handle its own against a Rex
slow delta
Are you guys seriously continuing to be off-topic even after getting warned by a mod?
river marsh
<@&401466542140817419> reccomendation that this channel badly needs tags to speak in here so it isnt disrupted. Anyone that gets said tag (likely by requesting it in DMs?) and then proves to be disruptive can then either get whacked or given an opposite tag so they wont be whitelisted again by mistake.
Theory: personal headcanon is that most of the individual profiles go insane after degrading over time due to their circumstances. This is why you sometimes see the most random player activity but more productively you see people forming family groups to maintain sanity.
hearty fox
@winged topaz @hot junco @icy onyx @vital tree strike 1 to each of you. Warnings are not given to be ignored.
icy onyx
for what
hearty fox
continuing the offtopic discussion after I warned everyone to not continue
icy onyx
What you said was like an hour earlier I didnt see it lol
cold pecan
Swhat you get for not payin attention ig
icy onyx
digital vale
It's even written in channel description and pinned messages, the fact you didn't see it is no excuse.
hearty fox
This discussion also doesn’t belong here. From this point onwards, talk about theories.
pure tulip
I think alot of us forgot the replicator existed.
Or the concept behind it.
I'm not 100% sure if it confirmed or not but I think it is going to play a part in the Tribal and Cannibals side. Maybe a bit in Dinosaurs as Dondi said.
But I want to add,
that it might be also going to curropt the Human part to make them do what the replicator say to them and they will do it. (Which I'm talking about Mercs side. I hope there will be more than Mercs are playable.) Like make them stronger and curropt. Which I think it is the unnamed strain which we thought that it was the Cannibal. Maybe there are more than the unnamed Creature. Maybe the Colossal is going to part for the Humans or the Tribals. I'm not sure about the Colossal but I hope it does play a part.
I think some people said these theory but I would love to share mine.
I have more to say but I will save it for another time.
pure zodiac
Actually, Sir, a lot of have been talking about the Replicator.
Granted the last time it was mentioned is when I compared the Replicator to the titan Gaia.
The Replicator is currently unknown outside the fact that it's "some godlike entity."
But I do like the theory.
Though there is one little hole I'd like to point out.
The Unknown (aka formerly called Cannibals) are more related to Echidna than the Replicator. Now, I'm not saying the Replicator had no part in their conception, but what would the Replicator do when Echidna is sorta behind the Unknowns?
pure tulip
Oh, I forgot about that one. Thank you for pointing that out. Also, could you please send me some videos about the lore to understand much more better? If so, I would love to send it in Dms.
icy onyx
Alright. So the replicator is a machine right?
Machines need power source.
So maybe if we figure out the power source for the replicator it can help us unlock something in the lore
Also we know the replicator is artificial intelligence so maybe we can siphon information from that.
pure tulip
I kinda have another Theory about who created the replicator. A sivelaysation came in and created the replicator or simply AE or infirno created it.
neon bloom
seen all this talk about the "replicator" what is it?
neon bloom
same, havent been able to talk/ ask questions for like a month of being in this discord server
icy onyx
Theres no real narrative it's kinda like fnaf in which they give clues and fanbase pieces it together
except fnaf clues were in your face
pure zodiac
@neon bloom @icy onyx The Replicator is, supposedly, a massive god-like machine.
neon bloom
oh wow
pure zodiac
Responsible for every dinosaur you play as.
icy onyx
oh so they just defeated any possible plot hole lmao
neon bloom
so it makes the dinos?
pure zodiac
Well, more like 'cloning' the playable dinosaurus.
AE made all the originals n' whatnot.
icy onyx
ohh makes more sense
pure zodiac
Replicator, as the name suggests, replicated them.
neon bloom
i see
icy onyx
Do we know who made or operates it
pure zodiac
Nope.
All we know is it's big, god-like, and definitely sentient.
Hell, it's probably even sapient.
icy onyx
Oh shitdawg