#isle-lore-theories

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scarlet ivy
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Meet the bois

icy onyx
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Ah yes, this one

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Tapwing didn't work on it as far as I'm aware but she was the first I made aware of some... stuff I did with it

scarlet ivy
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I expect the Nuero will be the most dangerous to humans. If i remember correctly she has telekinesis

icy onyx
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I personaly tried to sketch some thing son tisso rex to make it more... "alive" I'd say if I was to use my own words

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Dunno if I can post it here tho, because it's technically fan art and not theory or lore

scarlet ivy
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I have also done many sketches as well. The Hypo data in the background appears to show some form of combined proteins, maybe it shows a hyper metabolism rate?

icy onyx
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Hypo data shows molecules, but I'm bad at chemistry so I can't tell
the picture is CURSED with small size so I can't tell the details

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the data in the background seems to show some growth patterns? the kind you'd see with "weight/size"

scarlet ivy
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The Tisso, I expect her to kill most Nycta's pretty easy.

icy onyx
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Nycta isn't official so doesn't matter

scarlet ivy
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All I'm saying is I expect the Tisso to be powerful, I don't see whats wrong with that.

icy onyx
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Neuro definitely is cerebral signals, magnets and Membrane exchanges

scarlet ivy
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Yup, she's going to be playing mind games

icy onyx
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Well tissoplastic as a name is... weird

scarlet ivy
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Tapwing said that it refers to fake tissue, we could be looking at a partially non biological compound making up this creature.

icy onyx
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In greek, tissue = istós
it's an anagram for Tisso but... I dunno

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soo, "istos" becoming "tisso" is "fake"?

scarlet ivy
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Ever seen warframe? perhaps thats how the lovely little Tisso will look aesthetically

icy onyx
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I mean we have pictures of cells on the concept art
and the second one seems like the cells are expanded

scarlet ivy
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Hmm, our science is very scientific. dondiLUL

icy onyx
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It's game concept arts rying to look scientific

scarlet ivy
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lol i was joking

icy onyx
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well, so do the guys making those dinos

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"we're gonna make a fuckhuge trex"
"for military purpose?"
shrug

scarlet ivy
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It must suck to be the guys that have to take care of the Hypos, yknow, before the breakout. Imagine trying feed those things? My friend has just recently made a joke about how much it must suck trying to examine them too.

icy onyx
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Feeding those things?
I dunno there's probably an automated system at this point
the issue is more "how are we supposed to bring THIS MUCH FOOD in some isolate island"
and they better stock up on the stuff because you're not gonna make daily deliveries, but GIANT deliveries every once in a while alongside the rest of the things you're supposed to get to the island, it makes much more sense from a logistical point of view.

Let's just hope the guys that worked at setting all of this up had better logistics than the entire Jurassic Park Franchise

But well, they had giant aviaries/biodomes, giant fences, communication towers, from the designs they had for V3, a complet road and tunnel infrastructure and even countainment units/individual cages that looked to be able to contain the biggest stuff...

scarlet ivy
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I know, but when it comes to veterinary care, I bet they've got a whole line of D-class's lined up lol

icy onyx
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the question i have too is

What were they doing with the trees/plants? ya know the giant "hyper" sequoia and the other one...

scarlet ivy
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I dunno, Maybe Hypo blood/fluids is a contaminant.

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The question is who is brave enough to spill that blood?

icy onyx
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I was more expecting "what can be interesting in there" but heh, a formula for super growth, probably a huge load of anti cancer and antibodies... you know the idea

scarlet ivy
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Now, another question for you. Do you think strains are grown in labs, kept healthy, studied and eventually broke out. OR, do you think they are random mutations?

icy onyx
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but then again, probably have automated systems, or indirect (read, mechanical arms that are controled by the scientist) means of testing

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well seeing how the "lab" Dondi showed on stream, and that it's the same lab from that one Primal Carnage with the rex in a tube, and the rex from primal carnage is both looking like and the same size as Magna Rex...

if you want to optimize production and survival of those guys, it's probably vat grown
and even if they are random mutations, you can select those and replicate them, again in vats

scarlet ivy
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Lab? I never saw that!

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Do you have a photo of it?

icy onyx
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and let's be honest, feeding something like that and keeping it alive from "birth" to adulthood (and being useful) would be long, dangerous and it could even kill itself accidentally

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and for the pic, we'll need good old @flint marten
Would you have the picture of the "Lab" Dondi showed us on stream, oh wise one?

flint marten
icy onyx
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@scarlet ivy here you go

And Rav, thanks, fam! much appreciated

scarlet ivy
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Oh, Hi mr Ravenous!

icy onyx
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Ravenous is my go to for the things I don't have pics of for the stuff
I have memory tho so it makes it easier for him, I guess dondiLUL

scarlet ivy
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That looks uncomfortable for the poor dinos.

icy onyx
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Uncomfortable?
Why would it feel uncomfortable if the thing is in a medically induced coma?
that's how they put people in reanimation: they put you into artificial coma and then push that tube into your lungs, because if you were awake your body would reject the whole thing and that's a no no

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so basically, the dino is possibly in a state of artificial coma from the get go
OR they put a live animal in it, and then they put it into artifical coma and make it grow to the next (albeit artificial) step of its life, being (what I consider conformed) a magna, and possibly some other strain

scarlet ivy
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I know, just all that testing and forcing a pipe out of your throat is very unpleasant I hear

icy onyx
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nah, just sedate it

scarlet ivy
icy onyx
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it's more when it wakes up that things are more unpleasant
both for him AND the personnel

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Well I have a fear of needles so I can understand why they wouldn't like it, but heh they are assets, they don't have a choice

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and we won't give them any (in the best case scenario, but it's never a best case scenario, now is it?)

scarlet ivy
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Lol poor vega, imagine tryna brush that things teeth. I also have a tremendous fear of needles as well so I definitely have empathy for these guys.

icy onyx
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I don't
they aren't "natural", they are dangerous and it's either you or them...

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and they don't think twice

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Well, hypers are supposed to be very intelligent, but I have seen in many cases that intelligence corrolates with the ability for cruelty, extreme violence for the "fun" and being more or less a "cunt"

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so no I don't feel empathy for those... things

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Let's just hope "Dr Tapwing" didn't meet a gruesome or painful end...

scarlet ivy
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the docs created them. A living thing still does feel pain. I imagine life in a lab would be awful especially for the female strains. From what I've heard all mutants get sterilized, and that causes dramtic shifts in the chemical balance of any animal. These things want to live, hunt and reproduce, if they get their children taken away, expect consequences.

icy onyx
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female strains?

scarlet ivy
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Sorry, females of the species

icy onyx
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oh...

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Well, I always kinda feared what the "hyperendocrin" strain would to to the psyche of a dinosaur...
I mean, the endocrin system is basically the body's regulation system. Appetite, pain, sexual drive...

From what I know, an hyperendocrine would basically be an ever hungry, very intelligent and pissed teenager but it's too hungry to care about its own sexdrive

or maybe it's playing into the "always pissed" factor

All in all, they are not gonna be "nice"

scarlet ivy
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Regardless A mother shouldn't have their children taken away, animal or human. The isle should expect that many lives to be saved. With the exception of the rangers

icy onyx
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Neurotenic? oh no problem just take a dinosaur and give it something that morphs every cell that isn't vital into basically neurons
so now they are super sensitive and very intelligent and maybe even mess with your perception and "talk to you"

but I expect the "talk to you" to be more along the lines of making you feel what it needs you to feel to get its point across, and maybe some mind image of what you're supposed to see

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Tisso may be the more "mentally" stable strain, but then if it is capable of changing it's appearance like a cuttlefish does, maybe they could have personality issues

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and I mean maybe

scarlet ivy
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I agree, I think the rangers will probably have some sort of ability dampener to calm the strains down.

icy onyx
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hypers would be brutal monsters that only care about themselves and if they ally to something, hunger's gonna take its toll and then you'll get betrayed
Neuros... do i need to add anything to the "capable to messing with your perception and sending you messages in your brain"?

scarlet ivy
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I agree, anyway, gtg. Chat with ya later.

crimson oasis
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wait, hyper, in the isle means hyperendocrine, or basicly an overactive endocrine system

icy onyx
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Yes

crimson oasis
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that would mean that the body is producing basicly an overabundance of hormones and steroids

icy onyx
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yep

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and probably mess up the negative feedback cycle too

crimson oasis
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that wouldnt nessicarialy afftect their manerisms, mothers would probably protect children

icy onyx
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Hormones, Ace, hormones

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but then you have to remember hypers are always hungry, and that they are very intelligent, so they probably wouldn't care about babies beyond what their need for food would allow them

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I don't know when it was said but I'm fairly certain they said strains were infertile

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and if it's the case, we don't need the details

scarlet ivy
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Well, speaking technically, Mothers often sacrifice themselves when it comes to defending their children. It is a drive that triumphs any others in her brain chemistry. Increased hormones would only amplify this drive.

whole zephyr
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Question
Did AE steal the magna tyrannous only to have it break free and escape?

jade notch
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Is AE morally in the right?

scarlet ivy
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Is Ae morally in the right?? No. To say the least. With the exception of the rangers

torpid bear
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I heard somewhere that primal carnage and the isle share the same lore. is this true?

dreamy stump
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Dondi bought the rights to Primal Carnage a while back, and some things are hauled over from Primal Carnage, so yes and no.

slow delta
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there's definitely a connection between the magnatyrannus and the pc rex

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we just don't know what yet

vague dome
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magnus is the latin word for great, so magna just stands for great tyrannus

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we also know that all father and big daddy are the exact same creature

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just refereed differently by each company

slow delta
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not really

vague dome
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and we also know that they were able to kill big daddy during operation inferno gathering it's dna

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no really

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in pc all the rexe's are just clones of big daddy

slow delta
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the console mentioned all father but all the other assets like nova, thronebreaker and alphonse used the normal phoenix international names, so it's safe to assume when they say all father, they mean the actual all father

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besides b-443 and b-442 died in op inferno, but operation inferno wasn't meant to kill but take the assets. we know this because alphonse survived and was made into a hyper

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b-443 is big daddy btw

vague dome
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the thing is apollo is a very serious company with a god complex, they probably wouldn't use "big daddy" for a name
also no alphanose was suppose to be used as a base for hypo but was never captured hence still being mia (probably not important but you can see that quetz still fly over one of pce's maps and since to my knowledge alphie is only ever referenced in pce it's safe to say that is a big indicator of them not captured)

slow delta
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pce isnt canon yet

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also the isle loading screens mention hyper alfie

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so they got him and then he escaped again

vague dome
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again, i don't remember alfie actually being mentioned in old pc lore

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when i do my research it only ever appears in pce

slow delta
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not sure either but since he's mentioned here it doesn't really matter

vague dome
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that or the pc community is piss poor at documenting shit

slow delta
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dondi didnt like the idea of pce so it's probably not canon

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god ikr

vague dome
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can you show me the loading screen btw

slow delta
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yeah check the pinned document

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i've written down all of them

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alfie is mentioned in the atrium c one

vague dome
slow delta
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and the type h one

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gtg lets talk later

vague dome
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k

slow delta
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Ok so here's all the alfie stuff from the loading screen:
AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS

TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES HAVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.

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AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS

ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.

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AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C

TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.

grizzled dune
slow delta
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bruh how do i not remember my own convo

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although

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that was before he admitted pc was canon and part of the lore

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so it's no longer an inside reference

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"if the games were related in a meaningful way, there'd be a big deal about it." well now they are soooo

icy onyx
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Magnatyrannus
the "Lab"
references everywhere
shown pattern for utah is basically the raptor skin in Primal Carnage
Not related you say? 🤔

twin vale
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sigh, the internet never forgets

icy onyx
icy onyx
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the internet and me
I have a good memory for that kind of stuff, while Ravenous and Kingjaffad have the pictures

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also, if Dondi stopped posting "Carnage is Coming" all the time it'd help to make it all look like references and not liek there's an actual link

pale gust
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What if we had not only a danger call for herbies, but a mimic call for carnies. For example, a tenoto 2 calls and a near by utha pack hears the call and they can press 5-6 to make a mimic call to sound just like a tenoto to bring it in closer then ambush the unexacting tenoto

viral cedar
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i mean, theyre small packhunters, they just need the surprise on something

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a bunch of utahs dont need to lure in a teno, they just need to dogpile on it and stab it until its dead

pale gust
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What about a larger predator?

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Maybe an allosaurus?

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Cerato?

viscid shard
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Considering the biology I dunno if it wouldn't come across as a little bit unrealistic. Also I don't think carnivores need anymore help hunting.

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Maybe when there are playable tribals a mimic call could work.

neat thunder
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Carnivore playstyle is easy. and nobody even uses calls if you play on offical

broken anvil
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this channel is so sad

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it's all made up

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stfu about it

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devs probably laughing at this since they have full control over the ''lore''

twin crater
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I mean that’s what laymen theories are. Franku

broken anvil
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I get the fact that it's a theory but it's not science

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waste of time to be honest

twin crater
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People like speculating.

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It’s not hurting anyone. Let ‘em have at it.

broken anvil
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mhm. I just find it surprising how you can speculate about things that aren't there

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just me i guess

icy onyx
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If people enjoy it, let them do it

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there's no need to be a dick and tell people to stfu

nova bramble
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Not sure why you would also think that the devs will just spoon feed us all the info when its all ready. They seem to be the kind of people that like to make you work for the information.

storm sonnet
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🧐

vague dome
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"these people are trying to show me that my dino roleplay game has actual story and depth which makes me mad"

scarlet ivy
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Big Bad quetz

nova bramble
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Its mia

scarlet ivy
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?

shut remnant
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that's unofficial lol

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also aparantly that thing can't fly

past trench
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Oh no I think it can fly alright

buoyant mango
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flying patchy

shut remnant
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you may think so, but the artist of it doesn't

scarlet ivy
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Tapwing is a dev, as said before, there is evidence her... assets will be added in the future.

shut remnant
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ye but it's still unofficial

nova bramble
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unofficial/mia, eh same thing lol

twin crater
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mia?

timber notch
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missing in action

twin crater
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Well I thought that.

But Unofficial=/= MIA

shut remnant
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ye those things are literally entirely different things

icy onyx
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Again not all of Taps stuff is official

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Sure some of her concepts are

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but most of her concepts are FAN ART until proven otherwise

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thus pointless to use in lore theories for now

broken thunder
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Agreed

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But I’m pretty sure it can fly

shut remnant
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only 1 concept has been turned into official use, and that's neuro spino

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every thing else should be assumed to be fan art unless it becomes canonized, it doesn't matter that she's a dev

slow delta
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It can fly....

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How do you think hyper alfie escaped atrium c

nova bramble
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I know their different just joshing

ornate flower
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Tapwing makes a point of specifying in each pieces she puts on DeviantArt if it's fan-art or not

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probably because she got tired of people assuming all her stuff was official and posting YouTube vids about some non-existent new monster for The Isle

last vigil
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That thing looks strong af maybe it could fly 🌚

viral cedar
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you can be really strong and still be unable to fly

jade notch
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just goes and picks up a trex and flies it over to the middle of gulf just to watch it squirm

crimson oasis
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm yet to see it. I also know this is a theory channel, but it still remains the most relevant to the subject. Will the lore of The Isle be getting "ret-con"ed or entirely rebooted when EVRIMA is released?

twin crater
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We don't put simply

meager fulcrum
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Ace, we don't know actually

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We kinda hope not because of the sheer amount of information that we already know

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And have combed through

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But there's a strong possibility

shut remnant
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no TAPWING'S FAN hyper quetz design can't fly, it's literally in the bio for the first art piece, which is one of the reasons you shouldn't just assume it's the real design

ornate flower
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you sure it can't? that same piece posted above shows it dropping from the air onto something

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and i'm sure she's done sketches of it smashing through a helicopter

shut remnant
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ye, but I think that's meant to be it gliding from a high place then swooping down

ornate flower
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at the height a Helo flies?

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seems a tad unlikely to be just gliding

shut remnant
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helos don't really fly that high, there's plenty of mountains on the islands

ornate flower
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fair point, though helos can fly pretty damn high

shut remnant
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ye they can, but you generally don't see them flying that high because it takes time to gain height, especially if you're just trying to travel across the island

ornate flower
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makes sense on the island. all the ones i see here mainly fly high unless they're searching for stuff

shut remnant
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although things can just get retconned, it is just tapwing's fan design after all

icy onyx
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Tapwing's fan design can be added to the game at all time
Look at Neuro spino

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when she became a part of the Dev team, the first thing that was told to us was "her art may or may not be official now, we'll see"

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or something along those lines

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Small theory on the mutated tribals.

The tribals were already native to the islands our dinosaurs call home, however when Mercenaries and their buddies came with equipment and gene-altering technology, the tribals suffered.

The tribals were subjected both through the environment and through direct experimentation by Mercenaries to the hyperendocrine strain.

Due to being small proportionately to the dinosaurs and other beasts on the island, they could manage to maintain their hyperendocrine state without threat of starvation, provided they could work in groups to bring down large game.

They may also be in the process of becoming Magna strains, as in the new tribal head art, one side of the face is noticeably normal and less mutated. This could be the reverse however, and they are in the process of becoming even more mutated.

foggy tapir
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Hii

icy onyx
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I love popping in here to see what you guys are writing.

scarlet ivy
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Hello @icy onyx

vague dome
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personally i loose a few brain cells every time i come here since each time someone suggests something that was already debunked like tribals being on the island before hand

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but if you derive some entertainment from that then to each their own

icy onyx
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I think you seem a little tied too much into what other peoples are typing and letting it drag you down into a quagmire of sadness from which there is no escape.

vague dome
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sadly to escape there would need to be an exit

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and the light at the end of the tunnel has been clogged with failed military experiments on animals

icy onyx
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Hey! I thought my Tribal idea had good effort put into it. dondiFrown

jade notch
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anyone know how matriarch died? My personal theory is it was ' with lack of a better word ' shot with a large non nuclear missile. ( explains titan lake.)

icy onyx
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Did Matriarch even die?

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Yeah it did

paper pagoda
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Give a matriarch enough time and it’ll turn into a Kaiju

digital vale
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Skeleton in the Titan Lake isn't officially Matriarch, that's just an information Isle Wiki made up.

vague dome
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i believe it was referenced as an island walker at one point but that name is less of a dev saying it outright and more of "my friend who's friends friends uncle's friends works for the janitor at dondi's house heard it was called an island walker"

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as for the matriarch at this point in the lore it hasn't even been replicated into the main testing grounds

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actually i think this is really important when coming up with theories

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not everything in the lore is in the past

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as the game updates we move a little further down the timeline

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we know this is the case with the dynamic growth

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this is the most obvious one but there is always the possibility of there being others

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point is not everything is in the past

shut remnant
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tbh, I think that's just a in-universe way to show off dynamic growth and not a literal part of the lore

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like seriously, before now the dinosaurs only grew in size and then suddenly at random periods instantly changed how they looked?

vague dome
broken thunder
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Woah

icy onyx
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Someone explain it to me I am dumb

sand seal
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I told you guys once... Temporal Shifting Lizards. No one believed me.

icy onyx
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ˡᶦᵗᵗˡᵉ ᵈᶦᵈ ʷᵉ ᵏⁿᵒʷ ˢᵃᵒᵘˡ ʷᵃˢ ˢᵖᵉᵃᵏᶦⁿᵍ ᵗʳᵘᵗʰ ˡᵒˡ

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How are you making your text like that

icy onyx
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ˢᵐᵃˡˡ ᵗᵉˣᵗ ᵍᵉⁿᵉʳᵃᵗᵒʳ

jade notch
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and my theory is stupid. If there was an explosion. 1st of all titan's islands wouldn't exist. And second of all the bodies of the island walker/matriarch would be scattered and in many many many tiny shards.

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if not completely incinerated from a blast of that magnitude. Nuclear or not.

wind rover
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what’s temporal rna sequencing and how is it lore related

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ok understand now

patent barn
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temporal probably refers to time

twin vale
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my notion was prior to now it's essentially MGS4, where genes are told to activate or deactivate at a certain point to stimulate rapid changes, brute forcing growth. sort of the rationale for the Grow button but that's not a thing anymore.

icy onyx
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so basically a sped up puberty?

scarlet ivy
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We know that Hypos are sped up pubescent teenagers, so, maybe this relates to unlocking strains.

icy onyx
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Perhaps AE scientists perfected dinosaur growth

scarlet ivy
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Also, theorizing on the rangers, I think AE might have them outfitted with some form of ability dampener to put the strains in a more passive state after a breakout. As you theorized @icy onyx, the strains probably have no idea what is happening to their bodies, instincts and minds. SO- bringing it back around to the first point, the rangers might be outfitted with possibly an extra strength sedative for the Hypos, some form of psychic blocker for the Nueros and possibly a blindfold for the Tissos

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My reasoning for the Blindfold is that many species of hyperactive predatory animals have been shown to have their stress reduced and heart rate slow to a more calming rate when their eyes are covered

scarlet ivy
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"You would freak out because human brains have big prefrontal cortex that lets you imagine lots of terrible possibilities.
Take out that big imagination and all your brain knows is "oh, nothing looks scary now""

scarlet ivy
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Well I guess no one likes my theory. Bruh moment

tropic maple
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My head hurts now

scarlet ivy
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@tropic maple from what?

tropic maple
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Just scrolling up and reading everyone's theories I guess haha

fading coral
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what am i reading

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no cap

obtuse spoke
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i lost my brain

scarlet ivy
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Three freaking days no one has theory except for me.

digital vale
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Isle-Lore-Theories's been dead for quite awhile

scarlet ivy
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No one pays attention to the rangers...dondiSucc

digital vale
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Weren't rangers scrapped?

scarlet ivy
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I don't think so, there's not much info on them tho

icy onyx
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the concept is so old

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that we might as well ignore it for now

scarlet ivy
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Ya never know!

icy onyx
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This chat makes my head hurt

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Was a mistake looking in here

shadow island
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Don't come in here just to complain toddhoward Nobody likes that

meager fulcrum
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So i have a theory on why herbivores aren't hypers

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Some herbivores, that are very big like elephants or rhinos spend sooo much of their day eating

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Just to stay alive like 1/3 of the day is food

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Hypers use energy fast so they need to eat almost constantly aswell. At least with carnivores, they can smart down a body and the protein will hold them over for a day.

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With herbivores, if normally something of that size needs to eat for a 1/3 of a day, then with increased metabolic rate they would HAVE to eat all. The. Time.

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Because of how little nutrients are in grass/plants (there are exceptions like fruit, but in the current version of the game and in the future I suspect there wont be much of that)

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They wouldn't do a lot of murder if all they could do was eat.

exotic cave
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that honestly makes no sense, pretty sure that their not adding herbi hypos because they're focusing on carnis, plus it would be a waste of time to add a hypo pachy into the game. or really any hypo, it would die of starvation and it would kos for no reason despite being a herbi.

icy onyx
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literally makes ton of sense lmao

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Hyper herbies would be even less sustainable than hyper carnies

high heath
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Also, they'd be eating more of the enviornment than normal animals.

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It's likely they'd eat every plant they see, which means other herbivores starve to death.

icy onyx
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Hypo herbis make no sense because it is still a herbi. The only thing that is gonna be pissing itself is a bush

twin crater
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Hyper Herbis make no sense because no herbivore has the aggression needed for hypers to be useful. They’re walking walls of flesh and sinewy hate.

nova bramble
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I mean Hyper herbivores makes sense if you have other Hyper carnos to challenge it every now and then. But im not sure how easy it would be to balance it since something like a Hyper trike would literally just be a living tank.

viscid shard
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Surely any hypo dino would make sense if humans wanted it for military applications?

blissful willow
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not really

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because it needs to be able to survive for at least a while

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hypo herbivores would be eating 24/7 and might still starve since plants dont give a lot

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it wouldnt have the time to go on a rampage

hushed grove
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hyper herbis would screw other herbis

proper coral
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when will the game possibly get an omivore?

icy onyx
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Military application of dinos is stupid

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no matter the strain

viscid shard
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Tell that to Jurassic World.

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They still made a silly film plot out of it.

loud river
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Whiteshark01 #MoreAussiesToday at 11:00 AM
Hyper Herbis make no sense because no herbivore has the aggression needed for hypers to be useful. They’re walking walls of flesh and sinewy hate.
👀
looks at buffalo, geladas, hippos, etc

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Cassowary's aren't scary because they're 99% herbivorous 🤪

autumn siren
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I hope theres gonna be an ostrich

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but like

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not galli herbi type of ostrich

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I mean predator bird type of ostrich

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you know those running beaks that existed during the ice age ?

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Id love to see one in the game

scarlet ivy
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@autumn siren you mean Terror Birds?

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Man, I love it when people spend pages worth of text on wether or not Hypo herbis are good but don't even discuss my theory. dondiREE

vague dome
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because A( your being an ass about it and B( it's doesn't tackle anything useful

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with hypo herbivores we can at-least squish peoples hopes and dreams with quotes from dondi saying how dumb it is

digital vale
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Ah shoots, before I finished polishing my text you wrote it sooner than me. Well, as Robotrans/Artemis mentioned, it's been confirmed some time ago that we wont get any Herbi strain-dinosaurs, not just gameplay reasons, but also of the geniality of its concept.

scarlet ivy
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@vague dome No need to get heated. And calling someone an ass because they have a legitimate annoyance generally tends to mean that you are one yourself.dondiTroll

vague dome
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"three freaking days no one has a theory except me" "Man, I love it when people spend pages worth of text on wether or not Hypo herbis are good but don't even discuss my theory. " getting all huffy over the fact that your theory is being ignored for being based on something that's not all that relevant to the lore then getting mad that someone elses theory no matter how overly debunked it is is getting attention seems to be pretty asshole like to me

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most people get ignored in this channel that just how it works

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getting mad over it won't help

warm bear
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It's not like there's much to really digest anymore either. Not until some more things come out and about to help with solving the puzzle.

vague dome
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^

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unless someone finds more greek myths with references to apollo not much can be done

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gotta wait till olypmus tweets again

scarlet ivy
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@vague dome I wasn't getting huffy lol. At least I don't write an entire paragraph when I get backed into a corner. Also, it is acceptable to be frustrated when people don't have ignore you right? So can we just end this here, theres no point in all this arguing, it doesn't accomplish anything.

vague dome
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nah mate when i see someone being attention seeking and getting mad at other people getting attention i point it out plus it gave me this gem "when people don't have ignore you right"

scarlet ivy
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Ironic

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in insulting the shithead

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you became one yourself

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Are we going to put this to bed or not?

vague dome
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mate i've tried pseudo-intellectual nonsense before

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it always comes with hypocrisy

scarlet ivy
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Pseudo intellectual? Are you hearing yourself lol. Just give it up man, I'm tired of arguing, this is a lore chat anyway

sand seal
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Are we having an argument in here?

vague dome
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yeah

scarlet ivy
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Aparently so

sand seal
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Well stop it.

scarlet ivy
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Listen, I've tried to

sand seal
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Then stop replying or block him.

scarlet ivy
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thats fair

broken thunder
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sips tea contently after reading back through this whole argument
Mmmm, yes, finally something I can actually interpret in the lore-theories section

slow delta
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you guys could help me find dates in the primal carnage lore so i can put them in the timeline im trying to make

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cause so far i only got 4 dates from the isle and it doesnt make for an impressive one

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the console stream said that when op inferno happened, ae took 70 years worth of phoenix international studies

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which means pi has been operating for at least 70 years

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i suppose it's safe to assume operation inferno takes place when dondi bought the pc rights

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since the game lore has meta elements

vague dome
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that was the 4th december back in 2018 by the sounds of it

slow delta
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which kinda works with the whole magna is the pc rex theory since it happened before the activation

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wait no

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it debunks it?

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how can the magna be the pc rex if AE didn't have the pc rex assets at the time

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i smell lore retcons

vague dome
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actually if phinox was established in 1940

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than it would make sense

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taking place in 2010

slow delta
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yeah but AE didnt have access to the pc rex

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if ae did op inferno in 2018 and magna was released in 2017

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it doesnt add up

vague dome
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no for operation inferno

slow delta
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i dont want all the lore we have managed to scrape together be erased but at this point i feel like phase two needs to reboot the isleverse

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cause it's conflicting

vague dome
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except it can't

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since previous game mechanics have been canonised in the lore itself

slow delta
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they could simply say none of this old stuff is cannon and add new hints and lore elements

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they could keep some stuff

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but the non meta stuff can easily be removed

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cause the console stream and olympus transmitter are like a year apart so obviously dondi's ideas for the lore slowly changed over time causing these conflicts in the lore

vague dome
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who knows at this point, the more thats revealed the more it seems like a bunch of parrell universes crashing into each other

slow delta
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yeah

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which is why im afraid a reboot is inevitable to streamline things

vague dome
slow delta
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honestly the olympus stuff are so random they are basically useless in the lore at this point in time

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they are open for interpretation

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so much lore sauce and very little essence

vague dome
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actually one common thing i've noticed is their tendency to reference "the other side"

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plus the many many many allusions to alternative realities

slow delta
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again, this is all basically lore sauce at this point cause we have nothing solid and established to connect them to

vague dome
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we need something more concrete to latch onto

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a new base

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instead of browsing greek myth to try and make some vague relations to apollo and thus this game

slow delta
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yeah

plain gale
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whatever happened to that guy who "logged in"

naive shuttle
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he dead

slow delta
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khorne was never seen again

mighty abyss
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Phoenix might have started in the 1950's, but they weren't able to create dinosaurs until fairly recent times

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I mean, they have force fields

slow delta
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force fields is primal carnage extinction which afaik isn't canon in the isleverse

vocal violet
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Is the time setting of the isle is present day or in the future?

sand seal
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"Near future", I think is the measurement.

open sage
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Was the radio tower used for telling what was happening on the island to other people

slow delta
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the radio tower emitted morse code but because of the very loud ambient noises we couldn't fully translate it

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regardless it wasnt anything special

jade notch
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has any1 translated the binary in "Hope" yet? if so what does it mean?

icy onyx
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@jade notch one of the codes came out as:

"Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation"

jade notch
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HMMM

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Megathonk

vapid marlin
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Maybe it’s someone on the Olympus transmitter saying all this crap because they lost something and are trying to reason over the transmitter on why they did what they did.

fossil lily
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I can't wait till I can start contributing more to lore.

rotund fable
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Where exactly is Isla Spero at?

buoyant crown
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About an hour away

icy onyx
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Isla Spero

slow delta
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I can't wait till I can start contributing more to lore.
@fossil lily same 😦

icy onyx
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Where exactly is Isla Spero at?
@rotund fable obviously somewhere around the equator. I’m guessing somewhere off the coast of South America, Central American, Africa, Indonesia, or Oceania. More likely the Americas imo

void path
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my personal theory is that whatever is happening in the story AE has a government contract, like the military arms producers in the US, and some government wants these weaponized dinos

fast rune
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I doubt it. Weponized dinosaurs is such a normalized, boring topic nowadays, and i dont think dondi would approve of it. They might have a government contract, but it will probably be more scientific advancment rather than weapon advancement.

void path
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really you have giant mutant geneticly inhanced predators and you dont think someone has an altirier motive for something like that in story

fast rune
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I believe there is probably an alterior motive. But im really saying i hope it isnt a government wanting them weaponized. That story is so overused its been turned into a clichelé we are to lazy to come up with something original kinda deal.

void path
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i dont have a doubt that the original intent of the AE and whoever hired them in the story was mainly to study the creatures, but i suspect that the company was secretly given some government lab concocted things and a extra payment to improve and test them on the animals and possibly humans and see what the results were

fast rune
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Yes, thats pretty on point. I believe that is going down to an extent. All im saying is i dont want this contract to be the typical "Yes komrade, genetically engineer these dinosaurs to be able to hold the glorious ak-47 and sell them to us!". If it is like a "see how genetically perfect you can make these dinos to further scientific research!" Then heck ya im on board.

rotund fable
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So would that mean AE has it's own military division?

void path
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that would be the mercs yeah

sand seal
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You're cool.

meager fulcrum
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I watched that get removed lol

sand seal
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I'm surprised it had been here so long without me knowing.

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There's always someone that slips through the cracks, I guess.

icy onyx
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Has anyone seen for a glimpse , A white square or like shape hover in on place then disappear

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It happened to my and at first thought it was a giga

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Looks like I'm not the only on that's seen this

ember flame
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I think Isla spero is somewhere on the equator near Africa or south america

icy onyx
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Same

proper herald
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if we're so heavily JP-inspired I'm gonna assume " in the pacific off the coast of south america" until proven otherwise

woeful chasm
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@icy onyx Not the channel for that

gilded panther
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where do you guys think cannibals will inhabit on the island? and i wonder what the physical capabilities of these creatures will be compared to that of some other highly athletic creatures.

icy onyx
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where do you guys think cannibals will inhabit on the island? and i wonder what the physical capabilities of these creatures will be compared to that of some other highly athletic creatures.
@gilded panther Seeing as humans are a pretty generalist species, I imagine cannibals (which are basically mutant humans) will be found all over the island
Cannibals in deep forests climbing high in the forest canopy, to cannibals that live by the sea diving for fish and other critters.

stone crater
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So B-443 is Big Daddy, right? The "Allfather"? The original Tyrannosaurus clone?? Is it also the Magnatyrannus??????

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and if so, what on earth was B-442??????????

slow delta
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i think allfather and big daddy are different entities

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b-442 is big daddy

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big daddy died in op inferno but allfather survived

mortal tendon
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the isle lore website hasn't been updated since 2018 i'm sure it's outdated by now. does anyone know if there's a more updated page or document with isle lore?

celest marten
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well there are no news for the lore since then, as far as i know

stone crater
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ah.

somber wyvern
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Meh

icy onyx
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Wait Isle As a lore?

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Yup

loud nest
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Yo y'all know that ambience sound where its a loud roar, loud stomps then a loud roar...is that supposed to be lore related?

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Like some big ass creature is out there roaring

cunning widget
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idk if its just to make me stressed but when your close to the big dome you start to hear many dinos and sometimes if you stay long in the jungle

exotic token
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yea that bugs me

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i was a juvi pachy that got an aviary spawn (aka the dome) and all i heard was low pitched dino calls

rotund fable
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So what was Operation Inferno? Like a massive scale battle? Or something else?

high heath
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As far as we know, AE bombed the islands and did a hostile take over, took dinosaur DNA, then started making their own clones

exotic token
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o h

fast rune
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Aggressive negotiations am i right?

exotic token
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yep

rotund fable
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Wonder how they cleaned up the evidence...

exotic token
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drones

rotund fable
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L

meager fulcrum
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I don't know about yall but I always have a feeling of being watched at night near aviary

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What exactly is supposed to be in there

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If not alfie

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Or matriarch??

exotic token
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what is alfie and matriarch?

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i feel like i am being hunted at aviary

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doesn't matter what server, it is always scary there

icy onyx
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The pterosaurs are judging you for your sins

exotic token
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what did i do wrong?

meager fulcrum
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Alfie is hyper quetz

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And matriarch is a complicated mess that can be described as : something that is perfect in every way for killing

icy onyx
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So quick question, what exactly is all father and big daddy? I literally have no clue where you guys are getting this information from but I am very interested

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@icy onyx you can get some info in the pinned website and document on what we currently know

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O h

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I probably should have checked pinned first so thanks

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np

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So basically, phase 5 and phase 6 sounds like doomsday end of the world events

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This game just got a whole hell of a lot scarier

cunning widget
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if they really bombed it that explains sink hole(i think or it might be just too big for any explosive to do that)

icy onyx
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If they really bombed it, how come there isnt really any other signs of damage?

twin crater
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Nature is very Very resilient

icy onyx
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@icy onyx look at places like Passchendaele

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now its true that there was the human factor involved in it

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but even then the nature had to have the capacity to take back the soil once ruined by massive artillery bombardments

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chemical attacks

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and much more

cunning widget
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burn or bomb choose your poison

digital vale
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Hold up, where did you get that information that AE bombed them? From the damage we can see on old PC maps, its more like they freed all the captured dinosaurs who then killed everyone.

slow delta
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Dinosaurs died and from the name its safe to assume it was some kind of napalm bombing

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Phoenix Internation died from fire. Kinda ironic isnt it

icy onyx
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If Pheonix international died from napalm bombing, then would that technically mean they might rise again from the ashes, or from a small group that might have survived? then again Im just going off the fact that "Pheonix" is in the name lol

tranquil galleon
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would be pretty bitter sweet

icy onyx
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Fair enough, but we would have to assume the bombing was fairly recent, no? If so, there wouldn't be as much as time for nature to regrow. So its most likely either it didn't happen or Apollo Engineering sped the process up.

icy onyx
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Im assuming it was fairly recently due to the fact Phoenix International most likely wouldn't have been able to make dinosaurs in the beginning. This would mean that when Inferno happened, and if we assumed it was a Napalm bombing, it most likely had the force to incinerate the island with a sinkhole of that size. But that is only if we assume that it did cause the sinkhole. That means AE probably worked on regrowing the area before introducing the new dinosaurs to the land after Inferno. But that's most likely wrong.

tranquil galleon
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i doubt AE would set up shop on the remains of PI

icy onyx
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Your prob right, so who knows

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maybe something happened that didnt involve AE and somehow the plants just grew back really quickly

cedar sable
#

Is there a chance the recode might see a lot of the lore change?

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Because I'd assume a lot of lore is outdated

icy onyx
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maybe, that is if we ever get to see the story unfold

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I theorize that phase 5: Poseidon is just gonna cause the marine reptiles to be released. phase 6: hades may just be the strains or pterosaurs. Either way, both sound like doomsday events

cedar sable
#

Yeah true, I remember the description for the isle on steam says that the story is hidden in the game for us to find, but if the game is essentially getting a reboot, so might the lore

icy onyx
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I just wonder if the representative of the strains will be playable, since according to the lore, there are currently 12 Tissoplastic Reapers playable, Echidna is MIA, and Colossus + Matriarch are in Tartarus

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excuse me

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not playable, but on the islands

cedar sable
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Even then if the titans are still going to be a thing

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Ah well, hopefully the update gives us these answers ^.^

icy onyx
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indeed

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though isnt this only phase 2?

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I still dont know enough about this lore to form my own theory, but im deeply interested by Allfather and Monarch + Alfie

cedar sable
#

I do wonder how much the lore will actually affect the new game

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I guess I wonder if the lore of the old isle will still be relevant to the new

icy onyx
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most likely

cedar sable
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Hopefully it will, but it'll be interesting to see what gets reconned

icy onyx
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I do wanna play as the unknown or tissoplastic reaper, though we do have to think about how we would even play as the titans

icy onyx
summer arrow
#

oh i see it...

icy onyx
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Wrong universe GWlulurdMegaLul

ornate flower
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what the hell

scarlet ivy
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You've never had that experience before?

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Oh shit

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Sorry

ornate flower
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not sure how it's relevant anywhere anyway

scarlet ivy
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It's a meme related to the isle, is it not?

icy onyx
buoyant crown
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@cold matrix replicator is the tribal's deity/similar to the elders system

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and i think yes they will become ugly orc people

vocal violet
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I have big lore question is the archipelago is artificial or are they natural islands?

icy onyx
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@vocal violet now, with V3 being scrapped idk how much this statement will hold up but there are some things that point to everything being manmade.

  1. Me and one other guy tried to localize V3 and came up with ~40°N but thats way too south for the amount of aurora borealis activity

  2. This theory might hold up even with removal of V3. Neuro Spino is supposedly able to control weather. At the same time it is able to disable electronics through emp. Now what if the island is surrounded by a dome thats generating fake weather, and the Spino could control it by disabling certain components with its emp?

lavish gyro
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the dome could also somewhat act as a border, stopping pterosaurs from escaping the island

slow delta
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New buildings are designed to require as little human maintenance as possible hmmm

lavish gyro
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maybe the monitors are controlled by AI?

bronze pike
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probably means only certain things can be broken and repaired

lavish gyro
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ay, why'd I get pinged in this channel?

icy onyx
digital vale
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... that's not an Isle lore theory.

slow delta
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....

jade notch
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More of a suggestion

slow delta
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it's not a suggestion channel

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@gilded obsidian sorry can you clear this?

hearty fox
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@west heart This channel is intended for Isle lore theories only. Other kinds of theories can go into #401470471750811669 or #paleotalk, if they are paleo related.

formal edge
#

heres my theory the whole game is a kids dream

short python
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bruh

ember flame
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What

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That's to easy to be a theory, you could literally apply that to any story and just say its a kids dream

short python
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lol ye

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imagine a child having that big of an imagination

warm sand
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evrima news anyone?

jade notch
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@warm sand wrong channel

ornate flower
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@short python never underestimate what kids can think of 😛

jade notch
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@icy onyx also. You can have southern Auroras. Ever heard of Aurora australis.

icy onyx
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@jade notch 40°N is literally nothern hemisphere

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The “its all just a dream” is the most easy cop out

jade notch
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Whoops, sry. Didnt check map. Yeah, too south for either Auroras. Unless maybe an isle off the coast of tokyo.

dapper sierra
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heres my theory: the game is about dinosaurs

jade notch
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Thats canonically unproven lumie

vague dome
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remember kids go study up your greek mythology

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because the game is drenched in it

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might find some useful information regarding future events

icy onyx
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no but seriously what about phase 5 and 6 i.e. Poseidon and hades-

jovial eagle
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What if the isle is just one of the arks from ark survival?

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i really doubt it but would be funny.

fast rune
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Considering no random survivors have washed up on our beaches with metal things in their arms im gonna give that one a hard probably not but yes it would be funny

opal solar
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naw this cant be related to ark- we dont leave our exploitable bodies on logout

fast rune
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logging out to come back with a vibrent pink penis painted on your dinos face

icy onyx
#

So you know how AE create you and put you on the map right

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And how you start out as juvie.

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And how you grow in a matter of in game days.

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What if AE genetically engineered you to have an accelerated growing progress. Sorta like the clones from Star Wars.

covert burrow
#

that would make sense if the data they needed was only collected from adult animals.

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or some other factor

icy onyx
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That way it explains something that the devs had to do (make growing a fast process) for game reasons as part of the lore.

naive shuttle
#

That way it explains something that the devs had to do (make growing a fast process) for game reasons as part of the lore.
@icy onyx what if The Isle its a reality show like The show of Truman movie?

regal hull
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that would be cool

icy onyx
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That’s an... unconsidered idea.

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A bit like Hunger Games but with dinosaurs:

opal solar
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But then would the dinosaurs be ethically sourced, or something like stolen house pets?

icy onyx
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i think the dinos broke out

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all goes according to the replicators plan

spare verge
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When the vision gets weird near certain buildings and AE logo flashes, it reminds me of the matrix. What if the dinosaurs are being brought into existence for humans to profit from, or humans are in the buildings and are wirelessly taking over the consciousness of dinosaurs for some goal or just for sport.

fringe dome
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I just took the weird vision as either security cameras or the dinosaurs being disturbed by the creepy unnatural structures.

jagged flare
#

That vision I think, is just some kind of after effect. If you notice there is no more human activity in the isle, which would explain the unfinished construction and abandoned and crumbling buildings, what if the v3 was actually a testing/studies grounds of the resurrected dinosaurs and the genetic experimentation that led to stuff like Hypo and Tisso strands ended up causing the collapse of the research centers and facilities? I mean, each Dinosaur seems to be born with a genetic chip or monitoring of some kind because their health/location/and group or nesting data is always recorded as well as their thoughts and communication patterns.

final quail
#

someone slipped over utah dung and dropped half of the dna of an ank

icy onyx
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they look nothing like eachother imo

icy onyx
#

gun dryoAAA begone rex

river marsh
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Ohhh they do. They very much do. I think theres a callback to the code names in the lore somewhere that matches the two. AE and Phoenix were in competition so something went down.

digital vale
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Official page? No. Official information? Yes.

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Also Keit's correct, that red-colored rex from PC is, if I didn't confuse two different specimens, one of the Magnatyrannuses that were killed during Operation Inferno. His codename was... B-442? Or Big Daddy, I have very poor memory.

icy onyx
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wiki is bad as reference

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the pinned page and document are much better

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ye in some stuff it is accurate

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but its always best as secondary source

desert sun
#

So Primal Carnage and The Isle share the same universe?

fair mural
#

yes.

woven maple
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why not

vague dome
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hold up let me find that one image from QNA dondi and para did

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the one that is basically the pc genesis teaser

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if i do find it (or somebody else does)

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can it be pinned

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because i just want to refer people to that image every time the pcrex and magna rex are in the same discussion

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found it, sorry for shit image quality since ravenous video is the only place where i could find it

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yeah so when ever anyone question this connection

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show em this

midnight echo
#

So in lore are the Dinos controlled by researchers (the player)?

regal locust
#

Not specifically by researchers, it's extremely, heavily, stupidly implied that the dinosaurs we're playing as has the consciousnesses of (people?) put into them.

fringe dome
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Is it?

viscid shard
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I've heard that theory somewhere before too.

Mind you, if it's true it would explain the random killings. I bet some of the dinosaurs out there are right Karens.

midnight echo
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Lmao

jokes aside it does explain the interference when approaching certain manmade structures

regal locust
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Alright you isle babies, since it isn't specifically pinned nor in the website, going to put this here for now.

Aside from the obvious themes of revival, replication, and the proverbial statement of "The End is Never the End" within the other pieces of lore (specifically the Olympus Transmitters' tweets). The death screen ingame heavily implies that the movement of one consciousness between bodies is entirely possible. Here are the important parts of the death screens' dialogue on the right hand side. This goes from bottom to top.


< ***transferred 1.3 petabytes in 2.75 seconds***>

< Initializing base pair analysis>

(I'm skipping the DNA/RNA garble here)

< Dinosauria
< Chordata
< Dinosauriformes
< Dinosauria

<Analysis complete>

< Initializing Revivication process> 

< Vat num #443 ready

< Commence revivication>

< Marrow 
< Soft Tissues
< Ultraviolet protection

< ***Initializing data transfer***>

(And it simply transfers the petabytes of data)```

Now, you're wondering, "Zann, what does this possibly mean?".
Simply put, if you google how many petabytes can be stored in human brain it is 2.5 Petabytes. The transfer of petabytes implies that there's a movement of a consciousness or at the very least random data. Granted, you could say that the data itself couldn't be human at all and it's simply just some random data/information that the animal had to use for the animal to start out with, hence the tutorials. I'm no scientist but I don't think that simply because the full capacity of a human mind not being transferred into a new host it just shoots down the idea that it could be a human consciousness. It could be that's all the information stored within that persons' brain, or, the information/data is purposefully being picked by something. This ties into another theory where the replicator (or something) simply picks out the information it deems necessary to acquire. But that's for another time.
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Jesus this hurts me everytime.

Sources:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270049933430751244/702076965804441680/unknown.png

Google: "How many petabytes are in a human brain?"

"Most computational neuroscientists tend to estimate human storage capacity somewhere between 10 terabytes and 100 terabytes, though the full spectrum of guesses ranges from 1 terabyte to 2.5 petabytes. (One terabyte is equal to about 1,000 gigabytes or about 1 million megabytes; a petabyte is about 1,000 terabytes.)Apr 24, 2012"

The Olympus Trasmitter:
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1045073805926756352

And to the tons of others who've already spoken about this in much greater detail.

THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END.

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icy onyx
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33.4484 - 112.0740 enter these coordinates in google search and see where it goes. Phoenix Arizona. I watched the complete soundtrack of The Isle in youtube. At the end of the video - there was transmission.
"APPOLLO ENGINEERING:
INCOMING TRANSMISSION FROM [UNKNOWN]
POSSIBLE LOCATION: 33.4484 - 112.0740"
So I entered these coordinates in google

regal locust
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If you do a CTRL + F search in here for Pheonix Arizona you'll come up to the same topic.

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Not much was deduced from it.

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And it most likely is just a lore stub.

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People have correlated it to pheonix corp from Primal but.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gritty peak
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So speaking roughly, could it be possible that when a dinosaur dies, if it did have the consciousness of a person inside of it, would it not be reincarnated... as the next dinosaur the consciousness chooses to grow as? For example the olympus transmitter states that the "end is never the end"... could it be a completely different take on what we previously thought? we are the conscious mind, but as the dinosaur, we do not remember since Your conscious mind is your objective or thinking mind only... it retains no memory. It only holds one thought at a time. say... eat, kill, survive. Primitive, like a creature, say a dinosaur. Your conscious mind is also continually observing and categorizing what is going on around you. The dinosaurs themselves could be both the data and the observers. :3.

vague dome
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ok how do i explain this without it sounding like some dumb scp shit

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each concious is assigned a profile

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like a steam profile

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that profile is assigned to certain creature that is designed to die

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that profile gets updated with information than assigned a new creature

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and the cycle repeats it self

gritty peak
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Linking this to the Transmitter even further: on the 25th October, 2018, Olympus transmitter posted "Phase 2 error, Deploying version etc etc, "your reality may become temporarily unstable". Could it be suggesting the conscience of the creatures as this "reality" becomes unstable is affected too? Would it be some form of analysis if a second phase has started?

vague dome
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don't look too far into it

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i'm pretty sure the lore is presented in a way that makes it seem like it has a lot of depth

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lots of dead ends

gritty peak
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I just noticed the other day that there were lots of thoughts about conscience and people were linking the creatures and people together in ways that hadnt made sense before. Would the lore exist to confuse us to what the main leads were/could be?

vague dome
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to me there are 4 main ways to interpret the lore

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one where this is actually all meta and we are the profiles

gritty peak
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oo, do elaborate if you dont mind.

vague dome
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one with dimension fuckery

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one where the dead are resurrected

gritty peak
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i love digging deeper into lore, especially when its things i havent thought of yet.

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oo. thats spooky.

vague dome
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and one where the apollo engineering are littearly gods

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problem is the lore is so vauge you can interpret it in anyway

gritty peak
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Maybe that is the purpose of the loose ends?

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To actually create confusion as to the main story xD

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And what the main lore/story consists of.

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You're right though, there are way too many parts for it all to be included in the same time lines.

vague dome
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it also brings the lore to a stalemate because nobody can agree on anything

gritty peak
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Maybe we are thinking of it as loose ends, rather than what they need us to think of it as though?

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Would they create more confusion on purpose or is there a method to the madness.

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I was trying to work out a time line based theory the other day.

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One involving things people said about the matriarch.

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I was doing a lot of reading up on it a while back, and there has been concepts released by Tapwing showing it locked up. Another where it was near computer screens. Both suggesting it escaped in the lab it was created in.

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This time line is extremely vague.

vague dome
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let me just stop you there

gritty peak
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has been stopped

vague dome
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tapwings art before they were hired aint cannon until proven otherwise isn't cannon

gritty peak
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Oh, i know. Im just saying that the lore that was confirmed is just as unaffected as the stuff that isnt official.

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What i was trying to say, was even with all that seperate theory/analysis of one animal, and its story line people created.... it doesnt seem to link to anything currently, with the time lines we see.

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Such as the general creation of the island

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the experiments.

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Why create a completely different lore subject when it wouldnt match?

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It doesnt make sense to me.

vague dome
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i don't know, greek mythology perhaps

gritty peak
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I understand mutations, i understand the observing and research on the creatures... but if each animal, like people have theorised in here, have these "conscious minds" then why create a completely different animal, and let it loose for observation. Now im not sure if anything i can read is confirmed or not due to the smoky glass put up around some of the stuff they work on as Devs.... but it just seems odd no one shut anything down and everything on specifics, such as an organism that can effectively transform whenever it feeds was never clarified.

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Like with that twitter account a while back. They shut that down because it proved to be nothing more than someone pretending to be a satellite in communication with olympus.

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But people randomly throwing lore out left right and centre tend to leave a breadcrumb trail, or mistakes. There are normally holes in the general story they create that need to be patched by the public asking questions. Im just wondering what this means for some of the things we dont have as "confirmed" such as the matriarch.

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Since the lore behind that seems solid-ish anyway.

vague dome
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the trojan terminal was an attempt to move the lore forward

gritty peak
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Mhm.

vague dome
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it didn't work because the devs didn't care

gritty peak
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lol oof.

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But see what i mean! They allow lore to die if it isnt engaging enough.

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And in the past they have kept solid roots of lore going by giving it the air time it needs.

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Like reinforcing the olympus twitter account among the players.

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All i meant by my earlier questions was that if they are able to cut things like the Trojan terminal out of the lore, why wouldnt they do the same with things people are doubting 🙂

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On a completely seperate note, i find PunchPackets profile picture of the suspicious seagull extremely intimidating.

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I think the devs use non serious stuff sometimes as distraction xD

vague dome
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the trojan terminal stopped because the guy behind it got bored

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there was no intervention

gritty peak
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Ah, but was that for definite?

vague dome
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yes

gritty peak
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hm.

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but why would it be allowed to start in the first place.

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i mean, i guess he just made the account.

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and tried to continue the lore, no?

vague dome
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the trojan terminal was made in a time where lore came to a complete hault

gritty peak
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like a dead part.

vague dome
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yeah

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the guy wanted to intice the devs into pushing out more lore

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hence the name "trojan"

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like the trojan horse

icy onyx
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Similiarly to how Khorne managed to get into console, Trojans goal was to see if the devs would communicate with it

slow delta
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A valiant but ultimately fruitless effort

vague dome
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didn't help that people over reacted to it

zinc plaza
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hey I feel as you guys would know this (sorry In advance I hate to be the annoying guy) but do you guys know if The Isle and Primal Carnige are tied in any way

desert sun
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Yes. From what I can tell, that seems to be a very popular speculation. Scroll up a bit and you'll find the other posts

zinc plaza
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thx

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I would be cool if they did some sort of colab not going to lie

desert sun
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From what I gather PC is kinda dead-ish. Shame, though, it had potential, but no one wanted to play the humans...

zinc plaza
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lol I just bought the game 20 mins ago but all jokes aside this colab could be the thing to save the game...?

vague dome
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if you have seen the genesis trailer you will know what this image is

desert sun
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Did they ever go anywhere with that or did it just die?

digital vale
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You mean with Genesis? Genesis was supposed to be the original sequel to Primal Carnage, but because of some problems inside the dev team, they reduced the size of the game's content and released is as Primal Carnage: Extinction.

vague dome
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*prequel spinoff

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it would of been a single player narrative game

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and be an ps4 launch title on the early ue4 engine

edgy pike
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Yeah apparently you would've played as a worker there during the breakout or something

desert sun
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I'm just hoping this game can satisfy my need for a nice (somewhat realistic) dino sim

vague dome
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everytime someone calls the isle a dino sim a puppy gets kicked

desert sun
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Ok, dino game

dusky nymph
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RIMAS

woeful chasm
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PSA: Please read the pinned message before posting. Serious theories or discussion only.

keen mantle
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**first time i see donsi talking **

barren solstice
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same xD hello dondi

keen mantle
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and the bruh moment

amber nebula
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I forgot he worked on primal

digital vale
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My bad then, sorry for writing such inaccuracies. Didn't mean to spread wrong/fake information.

hot vapor
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I am pretty sure the dinosaur you're playing as is being monitored and not having a "mind-swap' with a human. Think about the death screen, or the stats menu. Though it would make sense of the mind swap due to the fact they spawn on a beach, but that's really just game mechanic and will be replaced with a cage drop-off I believe.
NO idea if the mind swap thing was confirmed though.

icy onyx
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donsi dondiSmile

vague dome
icy onyx
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I wonder what this could mean, other then the obvious fact of them persuading the dinosaurs to do things that they don't actually want to do. But what would they persuade them to do other then survive? Since its pretty obvious that the dinosaurs would do that on their own. Or maybe they're using them as war machines or something? Or maybe something to do with experiments?-

desert sun
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Or we (the player) just control the dino as though we were it, and it's just observed. Of course, if you must explain away the mechanics as being real life, that doesn't hold up

icy onyx
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hm hm hm, i n t e r e s t i n g

vague dome
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except game mechanics has been shown to be part of the lore

rotund fable
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So AE is putting human consciences inside of dinos(assets) minds?

toxic breach
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hopping over from general as i'm a complete lore pleb.

do we have any info or theories about why strains were made?

desert sun
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What I recall is that there were some freaky plant spores on the Isle that mutated anything that touched it, either killing it or turning it into a Strain dino

toxic breach
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so nothing intentional about them?

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why were strain plants made then?

desert sun
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That I do not know. It might be that the plants just grew there

toxic breach
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honestly that would make more sense than the dinos as a weapon theory.

desert sun
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I'd recommend looking at the Wiki. There's a link to some artwork that is absolutely terrifying

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If they ever make it into the game, we're all boned

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I like the Tisso Dilo, though

shut remnant
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dinos as weapons theory is almost certianly wrong, dondi personally hates the idea of that

icy onyx
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Who doesnt hate it? It's probably most likely to do with experiments or what-if scenarios as to test strains or some stuff

humble fern
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bruh

fringe dome
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Maybe the dinosaurs are being possessed by Yith who are being rehabilitated to inhabit dinos, and the strains are the result of lovecraftian mutations.

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It's as good as some other theories :P

vague dome
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except the game has been stated to be primarily greek

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eg the olympus transmitter project hades tartarus etc

fringe dome
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I've heard, yes. Just joshin

icy onyx
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Im still very intrigued about Hades and Poseidon. Though Poseidon probably has to do with marine reptiles since, y'know... God of the sea?

woeful chasm
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Probably

restive zenith
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Hypo can’t be a weapon bc it’s hunger would override any orders/training, and would simply kill anything

icy onyx
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and maybe hades is the release of the strains and/or more flyers? I don't know about hades o.O

amber nebula
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What is the connection of hades and flyers

desert sun
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Like a bat out of Hell? Dunno...

icy onyx
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yh i think the idea of using dinosaurs for war id just dumb

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u shoot a rex in the head with a shotgun it dies

ornate flower
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if you shoot a Rex with a shotgun you'll just piss it off

versed light
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you would be surprised on how thick/tough a t rex skull is, it would be able to withstand the bite force of other t rexes and their bite force could be up to 12,800 pounds of force at least and could be higher, The .50 BMG round can produce between 10,000 and 15,000 foot-pounds force (14,000 and 20,000 J), depending on its powder and bullet type, and as well as the weapon it is fired from, i am not sure i shotgun has that much power, @icy onyx

ornate flower
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Rex skull is mostly solid bone, and unlike other theropods, the skull bones are fused

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no shotgun has that amount of power

fair mural
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it wouldn't do much to a rex except to its skin.

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which would just make it mad

ornate flower
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now, a heavier weapon, like something you put holes in tanks with? that'd do it

versed light
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@ornate flower i agree with you on that, but those weapons are super heavy and impractical to move around/carry

hot junco
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but then again that's clunky and you need to line up a shot

icy onyx
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plus a charging trex roaring at you might affect the shot

versed light
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a charging t rex would not roar at you

desert sun
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Rpg, high-caliber rounds, elephant gun?

versed light
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predators try to be as quiet as possible so they do not alert there prey

desert sun
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Phosphorous rounds would be a pain, grenades too

ornate flower
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that Lahti gun might do it, but again, big, cumbersome, and loud

hot junco
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I mean, depends on what weapons are available, I imagine the majority are personnel-friendly to carry around and fire

versed light
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if i was a merc on a island filled with dinosaurs i would be more afraid of allosaurus then t rex

hot junco
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generally any dino attacking you is scary

versed light
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just because they would be able to sneak up on you easier and and are faster and harder to hit

hot junco
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allo is still relatively slow, my #1 fear would be carno

versed light
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the speed estimate for the allo is around 35mp

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miles per hour

torpid nova
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I think Utahraptor would be the most terrifying, the combination of speed, stealth and chance of being pounced on from any decently sized bush seems the most terrifying to me.

versed light
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i see your point

hot junco
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either that or troodon

versed light
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meh

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as far as ik troodons are the size of velos

torpid nova
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but troodon also has the venom

hot junco
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bigger, and meaner

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probably has good nv too

versed light
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we talking about in game or irl?

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i am starting to get confused

hot junco
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I was talking about in-game

versed light
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ok

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idk why but i feel like we are moving away from lore theories

hot junco
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ye

rotund fable
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So many people underestimate the power of guns

tender geyser
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If we want to talk real-world strategies for killing something like a rex, I wouldn't go for a kill shot to the head or body. It'd shrug off most weaponry that a human could reasonably be expected to carry...however, they do have weaknesses that could be utilized by an out-of-the-box thinker.

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Try tripping it, for example.

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Setting a trap to trip a rex and break it's leg is going to be far more effective than trying to shoot it with a rifle

high heath
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Traps would be a good idea for Mercs

tender geyser
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Some high strength cable, or a well disguised pitfall would be a nightmare for any apex

sand seal
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Tiger pits exist for a reason!

tender geyser
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^^

vague dome
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or an elephant gun

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the weapon littearly designed for the hunting of large animals

sand seal
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It's why I recommend double-rifles (elephant guns) every time I talk to Para on it.

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A stopping rifle is great for a musth bull elephant. It'll work on a rex.

dry dome
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Let’s have a straight up howitzer

boreal ledge
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if you look at the pinned messages on this channel, you can find the link to a google doc that translates all of the morse code and binary code you find in game

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if you also look at the website The Isle's Lore by Taterfi, it has a lot of information about the game's lore

restive zenith
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What’s colossus?

regal locust
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Very very old. He was initially concepted by Vega. This is a extremely old model image, it's going to 100% change if it hasn't already.

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But, basically, it's a humanoid H-strain.

buoyant crown
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Wasn’t that scrapped?

regal locust
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No, or atleast not officially.

buoyant crown
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Oh cool

shut remnant
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I believe that's unofficial

gloomy wave
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Yeah that's tapwing's art before she became a Dev

placid harness
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Anyone see the new rav vid with the lore stuff

gray pilot
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I have a theory on why dinos vision gets all static and blurry around certain building.

Idk if anyone has every discussed this theory before but i think this is something that i like to believe

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Some buildings were deemed more important than others and around those buildings a certain chemical or pheromone is set in a constant state in that area. A DNA alteration was made in that dinos that could be passed down thru genes, and that alteration makes it very unpleasant for the dino to be around that chemical or pheromone.

cloud shoal
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@gray pilot that's a really cool theory actually

gray pilot
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Thank you 😄 as far as i know i came up with it all by myself but like i said i wasnt sure it had already been talked about

pure zodiac
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The more I read that, the more sense it makes. That's honestly really cool.

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I had a little minor theory that it was the buildings had machines that would generate a sorta 'field' on a certain frequency that the dinosaurs can pick up.
Coming into range of the buildings means they're within that field, and that frequency was specifically designed to discourage dinosaurs getting to close.

gray pilot
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I like that idea too

pure zodiac
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Which also leads into the possibility of Neuros either
A. Being immune to it.
or
B. They're especially vulnerable to it.

gray pilot
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The problem with it being a machine would be what if it broke? It wouldn’t be able to cast that frequency anymore giving dinos free range

pure zodiac
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That sorta leads into the possibility of back up machines.

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Like, a room just chock-full of them.

gray pilot
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If it’s a pheromone or a chemical, that is something engraved into their dna

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Thats true, companies probably would have backups

pure zodiac
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And like the multiple buildings you see near twins.

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Each building having their own machine to make a wide perimeter.

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Which also explains why Radio Tower doesn't give off the same static, because its machine broke down.

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Though why the rest of it 'works' idk. HypsiShrug

gray pilot
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Good point, thru my theory with some buildings being ‘more important’ than other sorta ties with what the building was being used for and its location.

pure zodiac
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So like the bird cage lookin' structure would have a more powerful device?

gray pilot
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Radio tower is pretty out of the way and the builders probably assumed it wasnt worth spending the resources to use that chemical there so a fence was the bet the better option

pure zodiac
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Course that broke down as well.

gray pilot
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The aviary, they most likely didnt want whatever was inside of it and the things outside of it interacting so the chemical was used there to prevent that

pure zodiac
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Makes me wonder WHAT was in there.

gray pilot
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Same

pure zodiac
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'cause when you look inside, you can see a massive lake.

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In fact I've been inside it, it's deep enough to submerge a pue up to the base of the neck.

gray pilot
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Maybe it couldve been used as some sort of rehabilitation center or a ‘safe growth’ area for new dinos

pure zodiac
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Possible, but then what about the massive rock spires inside?

gray pilot
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Sorta like what some zoo’s have

pure zodiac
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..I mean that'd probably be for pterosaurs.

gray pilot
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Yeah, it had to have had pterosaurs in it at some point otherwise why would it needed to be as tall as it is if it didnt have things flying around in it

pure zodiac
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True.

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And dinos like Utahs can't jump to the top, you'd legit have to fly.

gray pilot
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Exactly

pure zodiac
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So maybe it was a large multi-purpose container.

gray pilot
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It also maybe was used for testing interactions between certain species

pure zodiac
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Have various species interact and see how things play.

gray pilot
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Yep

pure zodiac
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'cause remember all the species in the game and coming to the game are from many different periods.

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We got Kentrosaurs interacting with Magyarosaurs
Tyrannosaurs interacting with Camarasaurs
Pterosaurs interacting with everyone else.

gray pilot
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And since some would have never met in real life, they wanted to research how interactions between them would play out

pure zodiac
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Mhm.

gray pilot
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And to keep those meetings in a controlled environment as much as possible, they needed other things to stay away from the outer edges

pure zodiac
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Just because you're from the same period doesn't mean you're from the same place and time.

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Like let's use Kentrosaurus and Allosaurus.
They would've never met because they're from two different continents all together.

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But they're both from the Jurassic.

gray pilot
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Or carno and t.rex becauseeven tho they both lived in the cretaceous, they lived on opposite sides of the earth with an ocean between them

pure zodiac
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Exactly.

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The aviary was probably to test new species before sending them out into the island.

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i.e. if you have a new cretaceous species, probably test it with other cretaceous species you have and then work your way through other periods.

gray pilot
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Fair chance that’s probably it

pure zodiac
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And when you're done, send some individuals out onto the island so they can build up a population like the others.

gray pilot
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It makes me SUPER curious and excited to see what we’ll find on Hope and what can be pieced together from that info

pure zodiac
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Oh indubitably, maybe there will be structures with an interior we can explore and place nests.

gray pilot
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Who knows! We’ll just have to wait and see. Then explore all we can

shut cedar
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Does anyone know what the attract call is for?

noble orbit
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Fancy way of saying Friendly call

shut cedar
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Ah

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ok

nova bramble
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all calls are generally just there for the player. They dont affect gameplay....... yet

desert sun
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U sure? If you call, half the map will hear you

shrewd chasm
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lol ofc they effect gameplay

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sound system is actually really good

edgy pike
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Anyone see the new rav vid with the lore stuff
@placid harness The one with Para talking about Æ and stuff? If so then yeah. I like they’ve taken the “mysterious umbrella company” approach rather than just another “dinos in military ooga booga” JW plotline

placid harness
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I like it too

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How he specified "they make your shampoo and gmo food" really demonstrates the extent of influence they have in the world

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It'd explain how they'd have the resources to, you know, transfer human consciousness via technology

edgy pike
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I wonder how far they’ll go with it. Perhaps we’ll get some SCP D-Class level stuff with governments influenced by Æ just sending off their prisoners to be used for testing and shit

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And then there’s the PMC who signed the “thousand life contract” which makes me feel like there’s some sort of consciousness transfer for them too

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I wonder for the appeal if it’s basically like “you can live forever but you’re on this horrific jungle island filled with horrific ways you can keep dying”

placid harness
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That's what I was thinking

edgy pike
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I mean obviously Æ wants more from them too probably but that would be the main selling point

placid harness
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We can give you immortality and literally whatever life you ever wanted, but you have to go through Dante's Inferno and back for us first

edgy pike
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Yeah

placid harness
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That's an enticing offer

edgy pike
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We also don’t know how far in the future this is right?

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I mean Primal is like 2020s iirc (or 2040s I can’t remember) so obviously it’s after that

placid harness
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Now the part that intrigued me

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Is that paradym said their main purpose was not "ooga booga weaponry sell for war"

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So there is a higher purpose that life itself is being tampered with for some reason

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Perhaps it will be a scenario where it could literally split the player base on whether or not AE are the good guys or the bad guys
and that could shape in game faction relations too

edgy pike
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Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of corrupt CEO or even like a “cult” (like the UAC from Doom) in the higher ups of Æ looking to use all this as research to live forever?

placid harness
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That's the thing too

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AE themselves might even be split on it

edgy pike
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And then if the replicator is still a thing, where that all comes into it?

placid harness
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I kinda see the replicator as - "Hey, we built God." and that could have lead to some existential disagreements and stuff

edgy pike
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Let’s say the “cult” thing is real, perhaps the humans that get turned into the tribals (assuming the tribals aren’t raised from childhood) are lower level volunteers who want to worship the replicator as their chance of immortality?

placid harness
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Could be

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Imagine if you literally built a godlike machine

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Do you submit yourselves to gain excellence or do you think its a bad idea?

edgy pike
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In that case then the old tweets from 2018(?) would have more of a place to fit in, considering that’s still relevant. Then there’s all those Greek mythology pseudonyms if they’re still a thing?

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Also yeah no doubt there’d be a split

placid harness
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If you ask me, we're living a creation story lol

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Or destruction

edgy pike
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Sometimes I wonder how often Dondi momentarily stops by here just to laugh at us putting together what tiny scraps of info we have

placid harness
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Or maybe he goes back into his google doc and changes things to something he sees that he likes in here

edgy pike
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Maybe, but pretty sure he’s said he’s had the whole thing in his head for a long time

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But who knows

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Perhaps a nice lore-friendly way to implement a second merc faction far into development if that ever becomes a thing would be to make them like an opposition group maybe (e.g Chaos Insurgency) filled with scientists etc who left/escaped after disagreeing with the whole Replicator stuff, maybe even ex-Phoenix employees who survived Operation Inferno?

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Perhaps give them tasks to like capture specimens or disrupt operations and shit maybe?

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Or steal data and stuff

placid harness
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I think we're going to have the ability to make our own factions, kinda like how dinosaurs can make their own packs / groups

edgy pike
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No doubt that’ll happen too

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Perhaps when mods are a thing that would be a round-based game mode somebody comes up with

placid harness
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I've always been of the opinion that it'd be like a matrix scenario with the mercs

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Follow AE's orders and carry out your tasks for rewards
Or deviate from this path and see how far this rabbit hole goes

edgy pike
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Yeah probably

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I’m looking forward to the “environment-based storytelling” that’s always been talked about, can’t wait to go explore some abandoned facility to see what fucked up experiments went on in there

summer helm
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Wasn't there something once about the dinosaurs being the trapped minds of the former AE staff of the Isle

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I believe Don teased that the dinos are a endlessly reincarnated ecosystem, which is how we explain away respawn

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Was quite a long time ago however in retrospect

edgy pike
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Yeah that’s the consciousness transfer stuff everyone is on about

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Someone analysed the death screen which mentions something about large amounts of data almost at human brain levels being “uploaded” or something (you’ll have to scroll a fair bit to find it I think)

summer helm
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Imagine a immortal purgatory of eternally being born and dying as various animals

pure zodiac
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But then what would explain the Strains then?

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Would they just be errors along the way.. or a rival company taking their coding to make monsters?

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Or hell what about the Matriarch and the Strain Mascots (Colossus, Reaper, Mastermind)?

vague dome
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project hades shows they weren't accidents

pure zodiac
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So they were deliberate.
But then what about the Mascots?

vague dome
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remember everything ae does is very deliberate

pure zodiac
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Would they have like a 'controlling' mind or something?

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Like.. every strain is some sorta hivemind.

vague dome
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neuros have a hive mind

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that's already been confirmed

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and hypos are just giant mops

pure zodiac
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Oh right, forgot.
Then what about Hypers and Tisos?

vague dome
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used to clean up

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and tissos at this point just don't exist at this point

pure zodiac
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I'm legit tryna refrain from saying hypo because it's actually incorrect

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Well what about their mascots, minus Mastermind.

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Would Colossus be like their 'alpha' or somethin?

vague dome
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their humans that have been affected by strains

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echinda shares a lot of the tribals and the eyeless things

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and colossus is mia

pure zodiac
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Oh yeah, Cannibals are the tribal people.

vague dome
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two different things

pure zodiac
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And the 096 lookin' fuckers have no name.

pure zodiac
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Yeah, he said the tribal's names are cannibals.

vague dome
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watch all the way through

pure zodiac
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Oh yeah that's an odd thought I've had.
Ok so.

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If Matriarch is canon. What would she really be made out of?

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I mean she should be somewhat canon, given the older loading screens.

vague dome
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the matriarch is in a sense the epitome of what ae is aiming with the dinosaurs

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evolution

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the creature that is born when you play god

pure zodiac
vague dome
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read carefully

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compound in this instance is just referring to a facility

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context matters

pure zodiac
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True, but that would mean that whatever they were trying to take back was using the compound for shelter.

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And they were using something else to track it.

vague dome
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it's already been stated that all living things on the island have trackers

pure zodiac
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Or maybe I'm reading it wrong..

vague dome
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thats why the stat screen exists

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and why your able to even see your coordinates

pure zodiac
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I thought you couldn't see your coords anymore.

vague dome
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top right

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it's an older image but it's still there

pure zodiac
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Oh that stat screen

vague dome
green holly
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@vague dome How did u make the food water and stamina colored like that on the bottom right? i wanna know how to do that

woeful chasm
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@green holly that’s from an old version of the game

ember vine
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how do hatchlings have trackers

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like independently bred hatchlings

barren kelp
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I think it's been mentioned that nested offspring lack the trackers, and that it's the benefit of being nested in

green holly
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Oh

livid ruin
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any idea on the giant skeleton under titan lake along with the ruins

desert sun
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That's a Matriarch, according to the Wiki

digital vale
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Never trust wiki, we don't currently know what it actually is.

tranquil galleon
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The wiki isn’t official so..

pure zodiac
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Wiki is good in terms of figuring out what in game stuff is.
i.e. growth times, food consumption rates, etc.
But not really good for lore.

vital tree
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So I saw in Ravs video that Dondi said that name of the new island is related to Spero. There’s a popular Italian saying that goes “as long as there is life, there is hope.” (Spero meaning hope in Italian), so I think the new island will be called Isla Vita, which is Italian for life.

tawdry sand
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Ur on to something

icy onyx
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Has anyone figured out the names of the other islands yet?

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There’s a saying:
“There’s no life without hope”
Spero = Hope
Life = Vita
Possible Isla Vita confirmed?

tawdry sand
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Also

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Spero italian

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Evrima greek

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Vita Italian

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That makes sense to me

pliant marten
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French name?

celest marten
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Spero is not spanish at all

icy onyx
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Spero is Italian

celest marten
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yes

icy onyx
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It’s worth mentioning that the entity that came up with the title EVRIMA may not be the entity responsible for giving each island its name, the islands more than likely predate any corporation or entity in the game.

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Therefore their name’s may also follow suit.

nova bramble
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Latin proverb: Dum Spiro Spero (While I Breathe, I Hope)

icy onyx
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True spero actually translates to “I hope.” Spe translates to “hope.”

nova bramble
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italian translation for Breathe is respirare

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Breathe could also be another way to say life

coarse hare
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Where do you think Isle Spero is ? With new eucalyptus, wouldn't it be around australia ?