#isle-lore-theories
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Ah yes, this one
Tapwing didn't work on it as far as I'm aware but she was the first I made aware of some... stuff I did with it
I expect the Nuero will be the most dangerous to humans. If i remember correctly she has telekinesis
I personaly tried to sketch some thing son tisso rex to make it more... "alive" I'd say if I was to use my own words
Dunno if I can post it here tho, because it's technically fan art and not theory or lore
I have also done many sketches as well. The Hypo data in the background appears to show some form of combined proteins, maybe it shows a hyper metabolism rate?
Hypo data shows molecules, but I'm bad at chemistry so I can't tell
the picture is CURSED with small size so I can't tell the details
the data in the background seems to show some growth patterns? the kind you'd see with "weight/size"
The Tisso, I expect her to kill most Nycta's pretty easy.
Nycta isn't official so doesn't matter
All I'm saying is I expect the Tisso to be powerful, I don't see whats wrong with that.
Neuro definitely is cerebral signals, magnets and Membrane exchanges
Yup, she's going to be playing mind games
Well tissoplastic as a name is... weird
Tapwing said that it refers to fake tissue, we could be looking at a partially non biological compound making up this creature.
In greek, tissue = istós
it's an anagram for Tisso but... I dunno
soo, "istos" becoming "tisso" is "fake"?
Ever seen warframe? perhaps thats how the lovely little Tisso will look aesthetically
I mean we have pictures of cells on the concept art
and the second one seems like the cells are expanded
Sooo, cell plasticity?
Hmm, our science is very scientific. 
It's game concept arts rying to look scientific
lol i was joking
well, so do the guys making those dinos
"we're gonna make a fuckhuge trex"
"for military purpose?"
shrug
It must suck to be the guys that have to take care of the Hypos, yknow, before the breakout. Imagine trying feed those things? My friend has just recently made a joke about how much it must suck trying to examine them too.
Feeding those things?
I dunno there's probably an automated system at this point
the issue is more "how are we supposed to bring THIS MUCH FOOD in some isolate island"
and they better stock up on the stuff because you're not gonna make daily deliveries, but GIANT deliveries every once in a while alongside the rest of the things you're supposed to get to the island, it makes much more sense from a logistical point of view.
Let's just hope the guys that worked at setting all of this up had better logistics than the entire Jurassic Park Franchise
But well, they had giant aviaries/biodomes, giant fences, communication towers, from the designs they had for V3, a complet road and tunnel infrastructure and even countainment units/individual cages that looked to be able to contain the biggest stuff...
I know, but when it comes to veterinary care, I bet they've got a whole line of D-class's lined up lol
the question i have too is
What were they doing with the trees/plants? ya know the giant "hyper" sequoia and the other one...
I dunno, Maybe Hypo blood/fluids is a contaminant.
The question is who is brave enough to spill that blood?
I was more expecting "what can be interesting in there" but heh, a formula for super growth, probably a huge load of anti cancer and antibodies... you know the idea
Now, another question for you. Do you think strains are grown in labs, kept healthy, studied and eventually broke out. OR, do you think they are random mutations?
but then again, probably have automated systems, or indirect (read, mechanical arms that are controled by the scientist) means of testing
well seeing how the "lab" Dondi showed on stream, and that it's the same lab from that one Primal Carnage with the rex in a tube, and the rex from primal carnage is both looking like and the same size as Magna Rex...
if you want to optimize production and survival of those guys, it's probably vat grown
and even if they are random mutations, you can select those and replicate them, again in vats
and let's be honest, feeding something like that and keeping it alive from "birth" to adulthood (and being useful) would be long, dangerous and it could even kill itself accidentally
well there's that
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and for the pic, we'll need good old @flint marten
Would you have the picture of the "Lab" Dondi showed us on stream, oh wise one?
yes, I do
@scarlet ivy here you go
And Rav, thanks, fam! much appreciated
Oh, Hi mr Ravenous!
Ravenous is my go to for the things I don't have pics of for the stuff
I have memory tho so it makes it easier for him, I guess 
That looks uncomfortable for the poor dinos.
Uncomfortable?
Why would it feel uncomfortable if the thing is in a medically induced coma?
that's how they put people in reanimation: they put you into artificial coma and then push that tube into your lungs, because if you were awake your body would reject the whole thing and that's a no no
so basically, the dino is possibly in a state of artificial coma from the get go
OR they put a live animal in it, and then they put it into artifical coma and make it grow to the next (albeit artificial) step of its life, being (what I consider conformed) a magna, and possibly some other strain
I know, just all that testing and forcing a pipe out of your throat is very unpleasant I hear
nah, just sedate it
I suspect that these Mutants don't like sedation. Or humans.
it's more when it wakes up that things are more unpleasant
both for him AND the personnel
Well I have a fear of needles so I can understand why they wouldn't like it, but heh they are assets, they don't have a choice
and we won't give them any (in the best case scenario, but it's never a best case scenario, now is it?)
Lol poor vega, imagine tryna brush that things teeth. I also have a tremendous fear of needles as well so I definitely have empathy for these guys.
I don't
they aren't "natural", they are dangerous and it's either you or them...
and they don't think twice
Well, hypers are supposed to be very intelligent, but I have seen in many cases that intelligence corrolates with the ability for cruelty, extreme violence for the "fun" and being more or less a "cunt"
so no I don't feel empathy for those... things
Let's just hope "Dr Tapwing" didn't meet a gruesome or painful end...
the docs created them. A living thing still does feel pain. I imagine life in a lab would be awful especially for the female strains. From what I've heard all mutants get sterilized, and that causes dramtic shifts in the chemical balance of any animal. These things want to live, hunt and reproduce, if they get their children taken away, expect consequences.
female strains?
Sorry, females of the species
oh...
Well, I always kinda feared what the "hyperendocrin" strain would to to the psyche of a dinosaur...
I mean, the endocrin system is basically the body's regulation system. Appetite, pain, sexual drive...
From what I know, an hyperendocrine would basically be an ever hungry, very intelligent and pissed teenager but it's too hungry to care about its own sexdrive
or maybe it's playing into the "always pissed" factor
All in all, they are not gonna be "nice"
Regardless A mother shouldn't have their children taken away, animal or human. The isle should expect that many lives to be saved. With the exception of the rangers
Neurotenic? oh no problem just take a dinosaur and give it something that morphs every cell that isn't vital into basically neurons
so now they are super sensitive and very intelligent and maybe even mess with your perception and "talk to you"
but I expect the "talk to you" to be more along the lines of making you feel what it needs you to feel to get its point across, and maybe some mind image of what you're supposed to see
Tisso may be the more "mentally" stable strain, but then if it is capable of changing it's appearance like a cuttlefish does, maybe they could have personality issues
and I mean maybe
I agree, I think the rangers will probably have some sort of ability dampener to calm the strains down.
hypers would be brutal monsters that only care about themselves and if they ally to something, hunger's gonna take its toll and then you'll get betrayed
Neuros... do i need to add anything to the "capable to messing with your perception and sending you messages in your brain"?
I agree, anyway, gtg. Chat with ya later.
wait, hyper, in the isle means hyperendocrine, or basicly an overactive endocrine system
Yes
that would mean that the body is producing basicly an overabundance of hormones and steroids
that wouldnt nessicarialy afftect their manerisms, mothers would probably protect children
Hormones, Ace, hormones
but then you have to remember hypers are always hungry, and that they are very intelligent, so they probably wouldn't care about babies beyond what their need for food would allow them
I don't know when it was said but I'm fairly certain they said strains were infertile
and if it's the case, we don't need the details
Well, speaking technically, Mothers often sacrifice themselves when it comes to defending their children. It is a drive that triumphs any others in her brain chemistry. Increased hormones would only amplify this drive.
Question
Did AE steal the magna tyrannous only to have it break free and escape?
Is AE morally in the right?
Is Ae morally in the right?? No. To say the least. With the exception of the rangers
I heard somewhere that primal carnage and the isle share the same lore. is this true?
Dondi bought the rights to Primal Carnage a while back, and some things are hauled over from Primal Carnage, so yes and no.
there's definitely a connection between the magnatyrannus and the pc rex
we just don't know what yet
magnus is the latin word for great, so magna just stands for great tyrannus
we also know that all father and big daddy are the exact same creature
just refereed differently by each company
not really
and we also know that they were able to kill big daddy during operation inferno gathering it's dna
no really
in pc all the rexe's are just clones of big daddy
the console mentioned all father but all the other assets like nova, thronebreaker and alphonse used the normal phoenix international names, so it's safe to assume when they say all father, they mean the actual all father
besides b-443 and b-442 died in op inferno, but operation inferno wasn't meant to kill but take the assets. we know this because alphonse survived and was made into a hyper
b-443 is big daddy btw
the thing is apollo is a very serious company with a god complex, they probably wouldn't use "big daddy" for a name
also no alphanose was suppose to be used as a base for hypo but was never captured hence still being mia (probably not important but you can see that quetz still fly over one of pce's maps and since to my knowledge alphie is only ever referenced in pce it's safe to say that is a big indicator of them not captured)
pce isnt canon yet
also the isle loading screens mention hyper alfie
so they got him and then he escaped again
again, i don't remember alfie actually being mentioned in old pc lore
when i do my research it only ever appears in pce
not sure either but since he's mentioned here it doesn't really matter
that or the pc community is piss poor at documenting shit
can you show me the loading screen btw
yeah check the pinned document
i've written down all of them
alfie is mentioned in the atrium c one
k
Ok so here's all the alfie stuff from the loading screen:
AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS
TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES HAVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.
AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS
ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.
AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.
More on alfie: https://gyazo.com/a1d349d8af91f0b16c1477e45efbfbfc
bruh how do i not remember my own convo
although
that was before he admitted pc was canon and part of the lore
so it's no longer an inside reference
"if the games were related in a meaningful way, there'd be a big deal about it." well now they are soooo
Magnatyrannus
the "Lab"
references everywhere
shown pattern for utah is basically the raptor skin in Primal Carnage
Not related you say? 🤔
sigh, the internet never forgets

the internet and me
I have a good memory for that kind of stuff, while Ravenous and Kingjaffad have the pictures
also, if Dondi stopped posting "Carnage is Coming" all the time it'd help to make it all look like references and not liek there's an actual link
What if we had not only a danger call for herbies, but a mimic call for carnies. For example, a tenoto 2 calls and a near by utha pack hears the call and they can press 5-6 to make a mimic call to sound just like a tenoto to bring it in closer then ambush the unexacting tenoto
i mean, theyre small packhunters, they just need the surprise on something
a bunch of utahs dont need to lure in a teno, they just need to dogpile on it and stab it until its dead
Considering the biology I dunno if it wouldn't come across as a little bit unrealistic. Also I don't think carnivores need anymore help hunting.
Maybe when there are playable tribals a mimic call could work.
Carnivore playstyle is easy. and nobody even uses calls if you play on offical
this channel is so sad
it's all made up
stfu about it
devs probably laughing at this since they have full control over the ''lore''
I mean that’s what laymen theories are. Franku
mhm. I just find it surprising how you can speculate about things that aren't there
just me i guess
If people enjoy it, let them do it
there's no need to be a dick and tell people to stfu
Not sure why you would also think that the devs will just spoon feed us all the info when its all ready. They seem to be the kind of people that like to make you work for the information.
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"these people are trying to show me that my dino roleplay game has actual story and depth which makes me mad"
Its mia
?
Oh no I think it can fly alright
flying patchy
you may think so, but the artist of it doesn't
Tapwing is a dev, as said before, there is evidence her... assets will be added in the future.
ye but it's still unofficial
unofficial/mia, eh same thing lol
mia?
missing in action
Well I thought that.
But Unofficial=/= MIA
ye those things are literally entirely different things
Again not all of Taps stuff is official
Sure some of her concepts are
but most of her concepts are FAN ART until proven otherwise
thus pointless to use in lore theories for now
only 1 concept has been turned into official use, and that's neuro spino
every thing else should be assumed to be fan art unless it becomes canonized, it doesn't matter that she's a dev
I know their different just joshing
Tapwing makes a point of specifying in each pieces she puts on DeviantArt if it's fan-art or not
probably because she got tired of people assuming all her stuff was official and posting YouTube vids about some non-existent new monster for The Isle
That thing looks strong af maybe it could fly 🌚
you can be really strong and still be unable to fly
just goes and picks up a trex and flies it over to the middle of gulf just to watch it squirm
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm yet to see it. I also know this is a theory channel, but it still remains the most relevant to the subject. Will the lore of The Isle be getting "ret-con"ed or entirely rebooted when EVRIMA is released?
We don't put simply
Ace, we don't know actually
We kinda hope not because of the sheer amount of information that we already know
And have combed through
But there's a strong possibility
no TAPWING'S FAN hyper quetz design can't fly, it's literally in the bio for the first art piece, which is one of the reasons you shouldn't just assume it's the real design
you sure it can't? that same piece posted above shows it dropping from the air onto something
and i'm sure she's done sketches of it smashing through a helicopter
ye, but I think that's meant to be it gliding from a high place then swooping down
helos don't really fly that high, there's plenty of mountains on the islands
fair point, though helos can fly pretty damn high
ye they can, but you generally don't see them flying that high because it takes time to gain height, especially if you're just trying to travel across the island
makes sense on the island. all the ones i see here mainly fly high unless they're searching for stuff
although things can just get retconned, it is just tapwing's fan design after all
Tapwing's fan design can be added to the game at all time
Look at Neuro spino
when she became a part of the Dev team, the first thing that was told to us was "her art may or may not be official now, we'll see"
or something along those lines
Small theory on the mutated tribals.
The tribals were already native to the islands our dinosaurs call home, however when Mercenaries and their buddies came with equipment and gene-altering technology, the tribals suffered.
The tribals were subjected both through the environment and through direct experimentation by Mercenaries to the hyperendocrine strain.
Due to being small proportionately to the dinosaurs and other beasts on the island, they could manage to maintain their hyperendocrine state without threat of starvation, provided they could work in groups to bring down large game.
They may also be in the process of becoming Magna strains, as in the new tribal head art, one side of the face is noticeably normal and less mutated. This could be the reverse however, and they are in the process of becoming even more mutated.
Hii
I love popping in here to see what you guys are writing.
Hello @icy onyx
personally i loose a few brain cells every time i come here since each time someone suggests something that was already debunked like tribals being on the island before hand
but if you derive some entertainment from that then to each their own
I think you seem a little tied too much into what other peoples are typing and letting it drag you down into a quagmire of sadness from which there is no escape.
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sadly to escape there would need to be an exit
and the light at the end of the tunnel has been clogged with failed military experiments on animals
Hey! I thought my Tribal idea had good effort put into it. 
anyone know how matriarch died? My personal theory is it was ' with lack of a better word ' shot with a large non nuclear missile. ( explains titan lake.)
Give a matriarch enough time and it’ll turn into a Kaiju
Skeleton in the Titan Lake isn't officially Matriarch, that's just an information Isle Wiki made up.
i believe it was referenced as an island walker at one point but that name is less of a dev saying it outright and more of "my friend who's friends friends uncle's friends works for the janitor at dondi's house heard it was called an island walker"
as for the matriarch at this point in the lore it hasn't even been replicated into the main testing grounds
actually i think this is really important when coming up with theories
not everything in the lore is in the past
as the game updates we move a little further down the timeline
we know this is the case with the dynamic growth
this is the most obvious one but there is always the possibility of there being others
point is not everything is in the past
tbh, I think that's just a in-universe way to show off dynamic growth and not a literal part of the lore
like seriously, before now the dinosaurs only grew in size and then suddenly at random periods instantly changed how they looked?
Woah
Someone explain it to me I am dumb
I told you guys once... Temporal Shifting Lizards. No one believed me.
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and my theory is stupid. If there was an explosion. 1st of all titan's islands wouldn't exist. And second of all the bodies of the island walker/matriarch would be scattered and in many many many tiny shards.
if not completely incinerated from a blast of that magnitude. Nuclear or not.
temporal probably refers to time
my notion was prior to now it's essentially MGS4, where genes are told to activate or deactivate at a certain point to stimulate rapid changes, brute forcing growth. sort of the rationale for the Grow button but that's not a thing anymore.
so basically a sped up puberty?
We know that Hypos are sped up pubescent teenagers, so, maybe this relates to unlocking strains.
Perhaps AE scientists perfected dinosaur growth
Also, theorizing on the rangers, I think AE might have them outfitted with some form of ability dampener to put the strains in a more passive state after a breakout. As you theorized @icy onyx, the strains probably have no idea what is happening to their bodies, instincts and minds. SO- bringing it back around to the first point, the rangers might be outfitted with possibly an extra strength sedative for the Hypos, some form of psychic blocker for the Nueros and possibly a blindfold for the Tissos
My reasoning for the Blindfold is that many species of hyperactive predatory animals have been shown to have their stress reduced and heart rate slow to a more calming rate when their eyes are covered
"You would freak out because human brains have big prefrontal cortex that lets you imagine lots of terrible possibilities.
Take out that big imagination and all your brain knows is "oh, nothing looks scary now""
Well I guess no one likes my theory. Bruh moment
My head hurts now
@tropic maple from what?
Just scrolling up and reading everyone's theories I guess haha
i lost my brain
Three freaking days no one has theory except for me.
Isle-Lore-Theories's been dead for quite awhile
No one pays attention to the rangers...
Weren't rangers scrapped?
I don't think so, there's not much info on them tho
Ya never know!
Don't come in here just to complain
Nobody likes that
So i have a theory on why herbivores aren't hypers
Some herbivores, that are very big like elephants or rhinos spend sooo much of their day eating
Just to stay alive like 1/3 of the day is food
Hypers use energy fast so they need to eat almost constantly aswell. At least with carnivores, they can smart down a body and the protein will hold them over for a day.
With herbivores, if normally something of that size needs to eat for a 1/3 of a day, then with increased metabolic rate they would HAVE to eat all. The. Time.
Because of how little nutrients are in grass/plants (there are exceptions like fruit, but in the current version of the game and in the future I suspect there wont be much of that)
They wouldn't do a lot of murder if all they could do was eat.
that honestly makes no sense, pretty sure that their not adding herbi hypos because they're focusing on carnis, plus it would be a waste of time to add a hypo pachy into the game. or really any hypo, it would die of starvation and it would kos for no reason despite being a herbi.
literally makes ton of sense lmao
Hyper herbies would be even less sustainable than hyper carnies
Also, they'd be eating more of the enviornment than normal animals.
It's likely they'd eat every plant they see, which means other herbivores starve to death.
Hypo herbis make no sense because it is still a herbi. The only thing that is gonna be pissing itself is a bush
Hyper Herbis make no sense because no herbivore has the aggression needed for hypers to be useful. They’re walking walls of flesh and sinewy hate.
I mean Hyper herbivores makes sense if you have other Hyper carnos to challenge it every now and then. But im not sure how easy it would be to balance it since something like a Hyper trike would literally just be a living tank.
Surely any hypo dino would make sense if humans wanted it for military applications?
not really
because it needs to be able to survive for at least a while
hypo herbivores would be eating 24/7 and might still starve since plants dont give a lot
it wouldnt have the time to go on a rampage
hyper herbis would screw other herbis
when will the game possibly get an omivore?
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Hyper Herbis make no sense because no herbivore has the aggression needed for hypers to be useful. They’re walking walls of flesh and sinewy hate.
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looks at buffalo, geladas, hippos, etc
Cassowary's aren't scary because they're 99% herbivorous 🤪
I hope theres gonna be an ostrich
but like
not galli herbi type of ostrich
I mean predator bird type of ostrich
you know those running beaks that existed during the ice age ?
Id love to see one in the game
@autumn siren you mean Terror Birds?
Man, I love it when people spend pages worth of text on wether or not Hypo herbis are good but don't even discuss my theory. 
because A( your being an ass about it and B( it's doesn't tackle anything useful
with hypo herbivores we can at-least squish peoples hopes and dreams with quotes from dondi saying how dumb it is
Ah shoots, before I finished polishing my text you wrote it sooner than me. Well, as Robotrans/Artemis mentioned, it's been confirmed some time ago that we wont get any Herbi strain-dinosaurs, not just gameplay reasons, but also of the geniality of its concept.
@vague dome No need to get heated. And calling someone an ass because they have a legitimate annoyance generally tends to mean that you are one yourself.
"three freaking days no one has a theory except me" "Man, I love it when people spend pages worth of text on wether or not Hypo herbis are good but don't even discuss my theory. " getting all huffy over the fact that your theory is being ignored for being based on something that's not all that relevant to the lore then getting mad that someone elses theory no matter how overly debunked it is is getting attention seems to be pretty asshole like to me
most people get ignored in this channel that just how it works
getting mad over it won't help
It's not like there's much to really digest anymore either. Not until some more things come out and about to help with solving the puzzle.
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unless someone finds more greek myths with references to apollo not much can be done
gotta wait till olypmus tweets again
@vague dome I wasn't getting huffy lol. At least I don't write an entire paragraph when I get backed into a corner. Also, it is acceptable to be frustrated when people don't have ignore you right? So can we just end this here, theres no point in all this arguing, it doesn't accomplish anything.
nah mate when i see someone being attention seeking and getting mad at other people getting attention i point it out plus it gave me this gem "when people don't have ignore you right"
Ironic
in insulting the shithead
you became one yourself
Are we going to put this to bed or not?
Pseudo intellectual? Are you hearing yourself lol. Just give it up man, I'm tired of arguing, this is a lore chat anyway
Are we having an argument in here?
yeah
Aparently so
Well stop it.
Listen, I've tried to
Then stop replying or block him.
thats fair
sips tea contently after reading back through this whole argument
Mmmm, yes, finally something I can actually interpret in the lore-theories section
you guys could help me find dates in the primal carnage lore so i can put them in the timeline im trying to make
cause so far i only got 4 dates from the isle and it doesnt make for an impressive one
here it is again for those who missed it
the console stream said that when op inferno happened, ae took 70 years worth of phoenix international studies
which means pi has been operating for at least 70 years
i suppose it's safe to assume operation inferno takes place when dondi bought the pc rights
since the game lore has meta elements
that was the 4th december back in 2018 by the sounds of it
which kinda works with the whole magna is the pc rex theory since it happened before the activation
wait no
it debunks it?
how can the magna be the pc rex if AE didn't have the pc rex assets at the time
i smell lore retcons
actually if phinox was established in 1940
than it would make sense
taking place in 2010
yeah but AE didnt have access to the pc rex
if ae did op inferno in 2018 and magna was released in 2017
it doesnt add up
no for operation inferno
i dont want all the lore we have managed to scrape together be erased but at this point i feel like phase two needs to reboot the isleverse
cause it's conflicting
they could simply say none of this old stuff is cannon and add new hints and lore elements
they could keep some stuff
but the non meta stuff can easily be removed
cause the console stream and olympus transmitter are like a year apart so obviously dondi's ideas for the lore slowly changed over time causing these conflicts in the lore
who knows at this point, the more thats revealed the more it seems like a bunch of parrell universes crashing into each other
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1014149800969822208 this tweet basically sums up the state of the lore
This is not the world as it is. This is the world as it was. The untouched land will break apart with monoliths of the past until time catches up with itself.
honestly the olympus stuff are so random they are basically useless in the lore at this point in time
they are open for interpretation
so much lore sauce and very little essence
actually one common thing i've noticed is their tendency to reference "the other side"
Sometimes, right before consciousness slips away, you can see all of them waiting for you.
The reality is that everyone has something they are afraid to lose, give anything to protect, and sacrifice everything to get back.
plus the many many many allusions to alternative realities
again, this is all basically lore sauce at this point cause we have nothing solid and established to connect them to
we need something more concrete to latch onto
a new base
instead of browsing greek myth to try and make some vague relations to apollo and thus this game
yeah
whatever happened to that guy who "logged in"
he dead
khorne was never seen again
Phoenix might have started in the 1950's, but they weren't able to create dinosaurs until fairly recent times
I mean, they have force fields
force fields is primal carnage extinction which afaik isn't canon in the isleverse
Is the time setting of the isle is present day or in the future?
"Near future", I think is the measurement.
Was the radio tower used for telling what was happening on the island to other people
the radio tower emitted morse code but because of the very loud ambient noises we couldn't fully translate it
regardless it wasnt anything special
has any1 translated the binary in "Hope" yet? if so what does it mean?
@jade notch one of the codes came out as:
"Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation"
Maybe it’s someone on the Olympus transmitter saying all this crap because they lost something and are trying to reason over the transmitter on why they did what they did.
I can't wait till I can start contributing more to lore.
Where exactly is Isla Spero at?
About an hour away
Isla Spero
I can't wait till I can start contributing more to lore.
@fossil lily same 😦
Where exactly is Isla Spero at?
@rotund fable obviously somewhere around the equator. I’m guessing somewhere off the coast of South America, Central American, Africa, Indonesia, or Oceania. More likely the Americas imo
my personal theory is that whatever is happening in the story AE has a government contract, like the military arms producers in the US, and some government wants these weaponized dinos
I doubt it. Weponized dinosaurs is such a normalized, boring topic nowadays, and i dont think dondi would approve of it. They might have a government contract, but it will probably be more scientific advancment rather than weapon advancement.
really you have giant mutant geneticly inhanced predators and you dont think someone has an altirier motive for something like that in story
I believe there is probably an alterior motive. But im really saying i hope it isnt a government wanting them weaponized. That story is so overused its been turned into a clichelé we are to lazy to come up with something original kinda deal.
i dont have a doubt that the original intent of the AE and whoever hired them in the story was mainly to study the creatures, but i suspect that the company was secretly given some government lab concocted things and a extra payment to improve and test them on the animals and possibly humans and see what the results were
Yes, thats pretty on point. I believe that is going down to an extent. All im saying is i dont want this contract to be the typical "Yes komrade, genetically engineer these dinosaurs to be able to hold the glorious ak-47 and sell them to us!". If it is like a "see how genetically perfect you can make these dinos to further scientific research!" Then heck ya im on board.
So would that mean AE has it's own military division?
that would be the mercs yeah
You're cool.
I watched that get removed lol
I'm surprised it had been here so long without me knowing.
There's always someone that slips through the cracks, I guess.
Has anyone seen for a glimpse , A white square or like shape hover in on place then disappear
It happened to my and at first thought it was a giga
Looks like I'm not the only on that's seen this
I think Isla spero is somewhere on the equator near Africa or south america
Same
if we're so heavily JP-inspired I'm gonna assume " in the pacific off the coast of south america" until proven otherwise
@icy onyx Not the channel for that
where do you guys think cannibals will inhabit on the island? and i wonder what the physical capabilities of these creatures will be compared to that of some other highly athletic creatures.
where do you guys think cannibals will inhabit on the island? and i wonder what the physical capabilities of these creatures will be compared to that of some other highly athletic creatures.
@gilded panther Seeing as humans are a pretty generalist species, I imagine cannibals (which are basically mutant humans) will be found all over the island
Cannibals in deep forests climbing high in the forest canopy, to cannibals that live by the sea diving for fish and other critters.
So B-443 is Big Daddy, right? The "Allfather"? The original Tyrannosaurus clone?? Is it also the Magnatyrannus??????
and if so, what on earth was B-442??????????
i think allfather and big daddy are different entities
b-442 is big daddy
big daddy died in op inferno but allfather survived
the isle lore website hasn't been updated since 2018 i'm sure it's outdated by now. does anyone know if there's a more updated page or document with isle lore?
well there are no news for the lore since then, as far as i know
ah.
Meh
Yo y'all know that ambience sound where its a loud roar, loud stomps then a loud roar...is that supposed to be lore related?
Like some big ass creature is out there roaring
idk if its just to make me stressed but when your close to the big dome you start to hear many dinos and sometimes if you stay long in the jungle
yea that bugs me
i was a juvi pachy that got an aviary spawn (aka the dome) and all i heard was low pitched dino calls
So what was Operation Inferno? Like a massive scale battle? Or something else?
As far as we know, AE bombed the islands and did a hostile take over, took dinosaur DNA, then started making their own clones
o h
Aggressive negotiations am i right?
yep
Wonder how they cleaned up the evidence...
drones
L
I don't know about yall but I always have a feeling of being watched at night near aviary
What exactly is supposed to be in there
If not alfie
Or matriarch??
what is alfie and matriarch?
i feel like i am being hunted at aviary
doesn't matter what server, it is always scary there
The pterosaurs are judging you for your sins
what did i do wrong?
Alfie is hyper quetz
And matriarch is a complicated mess that can be described as : something that is perfect in every way for killing
So quick question, what exactly is all father and big daddy? I literally have no clue where you guys are getting this information from but I am very interested
@icy onyx you can get some info in the pinned website and document on what we currently know
O h
I probably should have checked pinned first so thanks
np
So basically, phase 5 and phase 6 sounds like doomsday end of the world events
This game just got a whole hell of a lot scarier
if they really bombed it that explains sink hole(i think or it might be just too big for any explosive to do that)
If they really bombed it, how come there isnt really any other signs of damage?
Nature is very Very resilient
@icy onyx look at places like Passchendaele
this is how it looked
thats how the area looks nowadays
now its true that there was the human factor involved in it
but even then the nature had to have the capacity to take back the soil once ruined by massive artillery bombardments
chemical attacks
and much more
burn or bomb choose your poison
Hold up, where did you get that information that AE bombed them? From the damage we can see on old PC maps, its more like they freed all the captured dinosaurs who then killed everyone.
Dinosaurs died and from the name its safe to assume it was some kind of napalm bombing
Phoenix Internation died from fire. Kinda ironic isnt it
If Pheonix international died from napalm bombing, then would that technically mean they might rise again from the ashes, or from a small group that might have survived? then again Im just going off the fact that "Pheonix" is in the name lol
would be pretty bitter sweet
Fair enough, but we would have to assume the bombing was fairly recent, no? If so, there wouldn't be as much as time for nature to regrow. So its most likely either it didn't happen or Apollo Engineering sped the process up.
Im assuming it was fairly recently due to the fact Phoenix International most likely wouldn't have been able to make dinosaurs in the beginning. This would mean that when Inferno happened, and if we assumed it was a Napalm bombing, it most likely had the force to incinerate the island with a sinkhole of that size. But that is only if we assume that it did cause the sinkhole. That means AE probably worked on regrowing the area before introducing the new dinosaurs to the land after Inferno. But that's most likely wrong.
i doubt AE would set up shop on the remains of PI
Your prob right, so who knows
maybe something happened that didnt involve AE and somehow the plants just grew back really quickly
Is there a chance the recode might see a lot of the lore change?
Because I'd assume a lot of lore is outdated
maybe, that is if we ever get to see the story unfold
I theorize that phase 5: Poseidon is just gonna cause the marine reptiles to be released. phase 6: hades may just be the strains or pterosaurs. Either way, both sound like doomsday events
Yeah true, I remember the description for the isle on steam says that the story is hidden in the game for us to find, but if the game is essentially getting a reboot, so might the lore
I just wonder if the representative of the strains will be playable, since according to the lore, there are currently 12 Tissoplastic Reapers playable, Echidna is MIA, and Colossus + Matriarch are in Tartarus
excuse me
not playable, but on the islands
Even then if the titans are still going to be a thing
Ah well, hopefully the update gives us these answers ^.^
indeed
though isnt this only phase 2?
I still dont know enough about this lore to form my own theory, but im deeply interested by Allfather and Monarch + Alfie
I do wonder how much the lore will actually affect the new game
I guess I wonder if the lore of the old isle will still be relevant to the new
most likely
Hopefully it will, but it'll be interesting to see what gets reconned
I do wanna play as the unknown or tissoplastic reaper, though we do have to think about how we would even play as the titans
A peacefull Logo from AE like it was a normal Bio Engeenering Labor
oh i see it...
Wrong universe 
what the hell
not sure how it's relevant anywhere anyway
It's a meme related to the isle, is it not?

@cold matrix replicator is the tribal's deity/similar to the elders system
and i think yes they will become ugly orc people
I have big lore question is the archipelago is artificial or are they natural islands?
@vocal violet now, with V3 being scrapped idk how much this statement will hold up but there are some things that point to everything being manmade.
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Me and one other guy tried to localize V3 and came up with ~40°N but thats way too south for the amount of aurora borealis activity
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This theory might hold up even with removal of V3. Neuro Spino is supposedly able to control weather. At the same time it is able to disable electronics through emp. Now what if the island is surrounded by a dome thats generating fake weather, and the Spino could control it by disabling certain components with its emp?
the dome could also somewhat act as a border, stopping pterosaurs from escaping the island
New buildings are designed to require as little human maintenance as possible hmmm
maybe the monitors are controlled by AI?
probably means only certain things can be broken and repaired
ay, why'd I get pinged in this channel?

... that's not an Isle lore theory.
....
More of a suggestion
@west heart This channel is intended for Isle lore theories only. Other kinds of theories can go into #401470471750811669 or #paleotalk, if they are paleo related.
heres my theory the whole game is a kids dream
bruh
What
That's to easy to be a theory, you could literally apply that to any story and just say its a kids dream
evrima news anyone?
@warm sand wrong channel
@short python never underestimate what kids can think of 😛
@icy onyx also. You can have southern Auroras. Ever heard of Aurora australis.
@jade notch 40°N is literally nothern hemisphere
The “its all just a dream” is the most easy cop out
Whoops, sry. Didnt check map. Yeah, too south for either Auroras. Unless maybe an isle off the coast of tokyo.
heres my theory: the game is about dinosaurs
Thats canonically unproven lumie
remember kids go study up your greek mythology
because the game is drenched in it
might find some useful information regarding future events
no but seriously what about phase 5 and 6 i.e. Poseidon and hades-
What if the isle is just one of the arks from ark survival?
i really doubt it but would be funny.
Considering no random survivors have washed up on our beaches with metal things in their arms im gonna give that one a hard probably not but yes it would be funny
naw this cant be related to ark- we dont leave our exploitable bodies on logout
logging out to come back with a vibrent pink penis painted on your dinos face
So you know how AE create you and put you on the map right
And how you start out as juvie.
And how you grow in a matter of in game days.
What if AE genetically engineered you to have an accelerated growing progress. Sorta like the clones from Star Wars.
that would make sense if the data they needed was only collected from adult animals.
or some other factor
That way it explains something that the devs had to do (make growing a fast process) for game reasons as part of the lore.
That way it explains something that the devs had to do (make growing a fast process) for game reasons as part of the lore.
@icy onyx what if The Isle its a reality show like The show of Truman movie?
that would be cool
But then would the dinosaurs be ethically sourced, or something like stolen house pets?
When the vision gets weird near certain buildings and AE logo flashes, it reminds me of the matrix. What if the dinosaurs are being brought into existence for humans to profit from, or humans are in the buildings and are wirelessly taking over the consciousness of dinosaurs for some goal or just for sport.
I just took the weird vision as either security cameras or the dinosaurs being disturbed by the creepy unnatural structures.
That vision I think, is just some kind of after effect. If you notice there is no more human activity in the isle, which would explain the unfinished construction and abandoned and crumbling buildings, what if the v3 was actually a testing/studies grounds of the resurrected dinosaurs and the genetic experimentation that led to stuff like Hypo and Tisso strands ended up causing the collapse of the research centers and facilities? I mean, each Dinosaur seems to be born with a genetic chip or monitoring of some kind because their health/location/and group or nesting data is always recorded as well as their thoughts and communication patterns.
someone slipped over utah dung and dropped half of the dna of an ank
they look nothing like eachother imo
begone rex
Ohhh they do. They very much do. I think theres a callback to the code names in the lore somewhere that matches the two. AE and Phoenix were in competition so something went down.
Official page? No. Official information? Yes.
Also Keit's correct, that red-colored rex from PC is, if I didn't confuse two different specimens, one of the Magnatyrannuses that were killed during Operation Inferno. His codename was... B-442? Or Big Daddy, I have very poor memory.
wiki is bad as reference
the pinned page and document are much better
ye in some stuff it is accurate
but its always best as secondary source
So Primal Carnage and The Isle share the same universe?
yes.
why not
hold up let me find that one image from QNA dondi and para did
the one that is basically the pc genesis teaser
if i do find it (or somebody else does)
can it be pinned
because i just want to refer people to that image every time the pcrex and magna rex are in the same discussion
found it, sorry for shit image quality since ravenous video is the only place where i could find it
yeah so when ever anyone question this connection
show em this
So in lore are the Dinos controlled by researchers (the player)?
Not specifically by researchers, it's extremely, heavily, stupidly implied that the dinosaurs we're playing as has the consciousnesses of (people?) put into them.
Is it?
I've heard that theory somewhere before too.
Mind you, if it's true it would explain the random killings. I bet some of the dinosaurs out there are right Karens.
Lmao
jokes aside it does explain the interference when approaching certain manmade structures
Alright you isle babies, since it isn't specifically pinned nor in the website, going to put this here for now.
Aside from the obvious themes of revival, replication, and the proverbial statement of "The End is Never the End" within the other pieces of lore (specifically the Olympus Transmitters' tweets). The death screen ingame heavily implies that the movement of one consciousness between bodies is entirely possible. Here are the important parts of the death screens' dialogue on the right hand side. This goes from bottom to top.
< ***transferred 1.3 petabytes in 2.75 seconds***>
< Initializing base pair analysis>
(I'm skipping the DNA/RNA garble here)
< Dinosauria
< Chordata
< Dinosauriformes
< Dinosauria
<Analysis complete>
< Initializing Revivication process>
< Vat num #443 ready
< Commence revivication>
< Marrow
< Soft Tissues
< Ultraviolet protection
< ***Initializing data transfer***>
(And it simply transfers the petabytes of data)```
Now, you're wondering, "Zann, what does this possibly mean?".
Simply put, if you google how many petabytes can be stored in human brain it is 2.5 Petabytes. The transfer of petabytes implies that there's a movement of a consciousness or at the very least random data. Granted, you could say that the data itself couldn't be human at all and it's simply just some random data/information that the animal had to use for the animal to start out with, hence the tutorials. I'm no scientist but I don't think that simply because the full capacity of a human mind not being transferred into a new host it just shoots down the idea that it could be a human consciousness. It could be that's all the information stored within that persons' brain, or, the information/data is purposefully being picked by something. This ties into another theory where the replicator (or something) simply picks out the information it deems necessary to acquire. But that's for another time.
Jesus this hurts me everytime.
Sources:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270049933430751244/702076965804441680/unknown.png
Google: "How many petabytes are in a human brain?"
"Most computational neuroscientists tend to estimate human storage capacity somewhere between 10 terabytes and 100 terabytes, though the full spectrum of guesses ranges from 1 terabyte to 2.5 petabytes. (One terabyte is equal to about 1,000 gigabytes or about 1 million megabytes; a petabyte is about 1,000 terabytes.)Apr 24, 2012"
The Olympus Trasmitter:
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1045073805926756352
And to the tons of others who've already spoken about this in much greater detail.
33.4484 - 112.0740 enter these coordinates in google search and see where it goes. Phoenix Arizona. I watched the complete soundtrack of The Isle in youtube. At the end of the video - there was transmission.
"APPOLLO ENGINEERING:
INCOMING TRANSMISSION FROM [UNKNOWN]
POSSIBLE LOCATION: 33.4484 - 112.0740"
So I entered these coordinates in google
If you do a CTRL + F search in here for Pheonix Arizona you'll come up to the same topic.
Not much was deduced from it.
And it most likely is just a lore stub.
People have correlated it to pheonix corp from Primal but.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
So speaking roughly, could it be possible that when a dinosaur dies, if it did have the consciousness of a person inside of it, would it not be reincarnated... as the next dinosaur the consciousness chooses to grow as? For example the olympus transmitter states that the "end is never the end"... could it be a completely different take on what we previously thought? we are the conscious mind, but as the dinosaur, we do not remember since Your conscious mind is your objective or thinking mind only... it retains no memory. It only holds one thought at a time. say... eat, kill, survive. Primitive, like a creature, say a dinosaur. Your conscious mind is also continually observing and categorizing what is going on around you. The dinosaurs themselves could be both the data and the observers. :3.
ok how do i explain this without it sounding like some dumb scp shit
each concious is assigned a profile
like a steam profile
that profile is assigned to certain creature that is designed to die
that profile gets updated with information than assigned a new creature
and the cycle repeats it self
Linking this to the Transmitter even further: on the 25th October, 2018, Olympus transmitter posted "Phase 2 error, Deploying version etc etc, "your reality may become temporarily unstable". Could it be suggesting the conscience of the creatures as this "reality" becomes unstable is affected too? Would it be some form of analysis if a second phase has started?
don't look too far into it
i'm pretty sure the lore is presented in a way that makes it seem like it has a lot of depth
lots of dead ends
I just noticed the other day that there were lots of thoughts about conscience and people were linking the creatures and people together in ways that hadnt made sense before. Would the lore exist to confuse us to what the main leads were/could be?
to me there are 4 main ways to interpret the lore
one where this is actually all meta and we are the profiles
oo, do elaborate if you dont mind.
i love digging deeper into lore, especially when its things i havent thought of yet.
oo. thats spooky.
and one where the apollo engineering are littearly gods
problem is the lore is so vauge you can interpret it in anyway
Maybe that is the purpose of the loose ends?
To actually create confusion as to the main story xD
And what the main lore/story consists of.
You're right though, there are way too many parts for it all to be included in the same time lines.
it also brings the lore to a stalemate because nobody can agree on anything
Maybe we are thinking of it as loose ends, rather than what they need us to think of it as though?
Would they create more confusion on purpose or is there a method to the madness.
I was trying to work out a time line based theory the other day.
One involving things people said about the matriarch.
I was doing a lot of reading up on it a while back, and there has been concepts released by Tapwing showing it locked up. Another where it was near computer screens. Both suggesting it escaped in the lab it was created in.
This time line is extremely vague.
let me just stop you there
has been stopped
tapwings art before they were hired aint cannon until proven otherwise isn't cannon
Oh, i know. Im just saying that the lore that was confirmed is just as unaffected as the stuff that isnt official.
What i was trying to say, was even with all that seperate theory/analysis of one animal, and its story line people created.... it doesnt seem to link to anything currently, with the time lines we see.
Such as the general creation of the island
the experiments.
Why create a completely different lore subject when it wouldnt match?
It doesnt make sense to me.
i don't know, greek mythology perhaps
I understand mutations, i understand the observing and research on the creatures... but if each animal, like people have theorised in here, have these "conscious minds" then why create a completely different animal, and let it loose for observation. Now im not sure if anything i can read is confirmed or not due to the smoky glass put up around some of the stuff they work on as Devs.... but it just seems odd no one shut anything down and everything on specifics, such as an organism that can effectively transform whenever it feeds was never clarified.
Like with that twitter account a while back. They shut that down because it proved to be nothing more than someone pretending to be a satellite in communication with olympus.
But people randomly throwing lore out left right and centre tend to leave a breadcrumb trail, or mistakes. There are normally holes in the general story they create that need to be patched by the public asking questions. Im just wondering what this means for some of the things we dont have as "confirmed" such as the matriarch.
Since the lore behind that seems solid-ish anyway.
the trojan terminal was an attempt to move the lore forward
Mhm.
it didn't work because the devs didn't care
lol oof.
But see what i mean! They allow lore to die if it isnt engaging enough.
And in the past they have kept solid roots of lore going by giving it the air time it needs.
Like reinforcing the olympus twitter account among the players.
All i meant by my earlier questions was that if they are able to cut things like the Trojan terminal out of the lore, why wouldnt they do the same with things people are doubting 🙂
On a completely seperate note, i find PunchPackets profile picture of the suspicious seagull extremely intimidating.
I think the devs use non serious stuff sometimes as distraction xD
the trojan terminal stopped because the guy behind it got bored
there was no intervention
Ah, but was that for definite?
yes
hm.
but why would it be allowed to start in the first place.
i mean, i guess he just made the account.
and tried to continue the lore, no?
the trojan terminal was made in a time where lore came to a complete hault
like a dead part.
yeah
the guy wanted to intice the devs into pushing out more lore
hence the name "trojan"
like the trojan horse
Similiarly to how Khorne managed to get into console, Trojans goal was to see if the devs would communicate with it
A valiant but ultimately fruitless effort
didn't help that people over reacted to it
hey I feel as you guys would know this (sorry In advance I hate to be the annoying guy) but do you guys know if The Isle and Primal Carnige are tied in any way
Yes. From what I can tell, that seems to be a very popular speculation. Scroll up a bit and you'll find the other posts
From what I gather PC is kinda dead-ish. Shame, though, it had potential, but no one wanted to play the humans...
lol I just bought the game 20 mins ago but all jokes aside this colab could be the thing to save the game...?
Did they ever go anywhere with that or did it just die?
You mean with Genesis? Genesis was supposed to be the original sequel to Primal Carnage, but because of some problems inside the dev team, they reduced the size of the game's content and released is as Primal Carnage: Extinction.
*prequel spinoff
it would of been a single player narrative game
and be an ps4 launch title on the early ue4 engine
Yeah apparently you would've played as a worker there during the breakout or something
I'm just hoping this game can satisfy my need for a nice (somewhat realistic) dino sim
everytime someone calls the isle a dino sim a puppy gets kicked
Ok, dino game
RIMAS
PSA: Please read the pinned message before posting. Serious theories or discussion only.
**first time i see donsi talking **
same xD hello dondi
and the bruh moment
I forgot he worked on primal
My bad then, sorry for writing such inaccuracies. Didn't mean to spread wrong/fake information.
I am pretty sure the dinosaur you're playing as is being monitored and not having a "mind-swap' with a human. Think about the death screen, or the stats menu. Though it would make sense of the mind swap due to the fact they spawn on a beach, but that's really just game mechanic and will be replaced with a cage drop-off I believe.
NO idea if the mind swap thing was confirmed though.
donsi 
The unpredictable nature of a profile within the mind of a dinosaur was resolved with an affinity complex. We could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them that it was what they wanted.
I wonder what this could mean, other then the obvious fact of them persuading the dinosaurs to do things that they don't actually want to do. But what would they persuade them to do other then survive? Since its pretty obvious that the dinosaurs would do that on their own. Or maybe they're using them as war machines or something? Or maybe something to do with experiments?-
Or we (the player) just control the dino as though we were it, and it's just observed. Of course, if you must explain away the mechanics as being real life, that doesn't hold up
hm hm hm, i n t e r e s t i n g
except game mechanics has been shown to be part of the lore
So AE is putting human consciences inside of dinos(assets) minds?
hopping over from general as i'm a complete lore pleb.
do we have any info or theories about why strains were made?
What I recall is that there were some freaky plant spores on the Isle that mutated anything that touched it, either killing it or turning it into a Strain dino
That I do not know. It might be that the plants just grew there
honestly that would make more sense than the dinos as a weapon theory.
I'd recommend looking at the Wiki. There's a link to some artwork that is absolutely terrifying
If they ever make it into the game, we're all boned
I like the Tisso Dilo, though
dinos as weapons theory is almost certianly wrong, dondi personally hates the idea of that
Who doesnt hate it? It's probably most likely to do with experiments or what-if scenarios as to test strains or some stuff
bruh
Maybe the dinosaurs are being possessed by Yith who are being rehabilitated to inhabit dinos, and the strains are the result of lovecraftian mutations.
It's as good as some other theories :P
except the game has been stated to be primarily greek
eg the olympus transmitter project hades tartarus etc
I've heard, yes. Just joshin
Im still very intrigued about Hades and Poseidon. Though Poseidon probably has to do with marine reptiles since, y'know... God of the sea?
Probably
Hypo can’t be a weapon bc it’s hunger would override any orders/training, and would simply kill anything
and maybe hades is the release of the strains and/or more flyers? I don't know about hades o.O
What is the connection of hades and flyers
Like a bat out of Hell? Dunno...
yh i think the idea of using dinosaurs for war id just dumb
u shoot a rex in the head with a shotgun it dies
if you shoot a Rex with a shotgun you'll just piss it off
you would be surprised on how thick/tough a t rex skull is, it would be able to withstand the bite force of other t rexes and their bite force could be up to 12,800 pounds of force at least and could be higher, The .50 BMG round can produce between 10,000 and 15,000 foot-pounds force (14,000 and 20,000 J), depending on its powder and bullet type, and as well as the weapon it is fired from, i am not sure i shotgun has that much power, @icy onyx
Rex skull is mostly solid bone, and unlike other theropods, the skull bones are fused
no shotgun has that amount of power
now, a heavier weapon, like something you put holes in tanks with? that'd do it
@ornate flower i agree with you on that, but those weapons are super heavy and impractical to move around/carry
but then again that's clunky and you need to line up a shot
plus a charging trex roaring at you might affect the shot
a charging t rex would not roar at you
Rpg, high-caliber rounds, elephant gun?
predators try to be as quiet as possible so they do not alert there prey
Phosphorous rounds would be a pain, grenades too
that Lahti gun might do it, but again, big, cumbersome, and loud
I mean, depends on what weapons are available, I imagine the majority are personnel-friendly to carry around and fire
if i was a merc on a island filled with dinosaurs i would be more afraid of allosaurus then t rex
generally any dino attacking you is scary
just because they would be able to sneak up on you easier and and are faster and harder to hit
allo is still relatively slow, my #1 fear would be carno
I think Utahraptor would be the most terrifying, the combination of speed, stealth and chance of being pounced on from any decently sized bush seems the most terrifying to me.
i see your point
either that or troodon
but troodon also has the venom
I was talking about in-game
ye
So many people underestimate the power of guns
If we want to talk real-world strategies for killing something like a rex, I wouldn't go for a kill shot to the head or body. It'd shrug off most weaponry that a human could reasonably be expected to carry...however, they do have weaknesses that could be utilized by an out-of-the-box thinker.
Try tripping it, for example.
Setting a trap to trip a rex and break it's leg is going to be far more effective than trying to shoot it with a rifle
Traps would be a good idea for Mercs
Some high strength cable, or a well disguised pitfall would be a nightmare for any apex
Tiger pits exist for a reason!
^^
It's why I recommend double-rifles (elephant guns) every time I talk to Para on it.
A stopping rifle is great for a musth bull elephant. It'll work on a rex.
Let’s have a straight up howitzer
if you look at the pinned messages on this channel, you can find the link to a google doc that translates all of the morse code and binary code you find in game
if you also look at the website The Isle's Lore by Taterfi, it has a lot of information about the game's lore
What’s colossus?
The Hyperendocrin Colossus.
Very very old. He was initially concepted by Vega. This is a extremely old model image, it's going to 100% change if it hasn't already.
But, basically, it's a humanoid H-strain.
Wasn’t that scrapped?
No, or atleast not officially.
Oh cool
I believe that's unofficial
Yeah that's tapwing's art before she became a Dev
Anyone see the new rav vid with the lore stuff
I have a theory on why dinos vision gets all static and blurry around certain building.
Idk if anyone has every discussed this theory before but i think this is something that i like to believe
Some buildings were deemed more important than others and around those buildings a certain chemical or pheromone is set in a constant state in that area. A DNA alteration was made in that dinos that could be passed down thru genes, and that alteration makes it very unpleasant for the dino to be around that chemical or pheromone.
@gray pilot that's a really cool theory actually
Thank you 😄 as far as i know i came up with it all by myself but like i said i wasnt sure it had already been talked about
The more I read that, the more sense it makes. That's honestly really cool.
I had a little minor theory that it was the buildings had machines that would generate a sorta 'field' on a certain frequency that the dinosaurs can pick up.
Coming into range of the buildings means they're within that field, and that frequency was specifically designed to discourage dinosaurs getting to close.
I like that idea too
Which also leads into the possibility of Neuros either
A. Being immune to it.
or
B. They're especially vulnerable to it.
The problem with it being a machine would be what if it broke? It wouldn’t be able to cast that frequency anymore giving dinos free range
That sorta leads into the possibility of back up machines.
Like, a room just chock-full of them.
If it’s a pheromone or a chemical, that is something engraved into their dna
Thats true, companies probably would have backups
And like the multiple buildings you see near twins.
Each building having their own machine to make a wide perimeter.
Which also explains why Radio Tower doesn't give off the same static, because its machine broke down.
Though why the rest of it 'works' idk. 
Good point, thru my theory with some buildings being ‘more important’ than other sorta ties with what the building was being used for and its location.
So like the bird cage lookin' structure would have a more powerful device?
Radio tower is pretty out of the way and the builders probably assumed it wasnt worth spending the resources to use that chemical there so a fence was the bet the better option
Course that broke down as well.
The aviary, they most likely didnt want whatever was inside of it and the things outside of it interacting so the chemical was used there to prevent that
Makes me wonder WHAT was in there.
Same
'cause when you look inside, you can see a massive lake.
In fact I've been inside it, it's deep enough to submerge a pue up to the base of the neck.
Maybe it couldve been used as some sort of rehabilitation center or a ‘safe growth’ area for new dinos
Possible, but then what about the massive rock spires inside?
Sorta like what some zoo’s have
..I mean that'd probably be for pterosaurs.
Yeah, it had to have had pterosaurs in it at some point otherwise why would it needed to be as tall as it is if it didnt have things flying around in it
Exactly
So maybe it was a large multi-purpose container.
It also maybe was used for testing interactions between certain species
Have various species interact and see how things play.
Yep
'cause remember all the species in the game and coming to the game are from many different periods.
We got Kentrosaurs interacting with Magyarosaurs
Tyrannosaurs interacting with Camarasaurs
Pterosaurs interacting with everyone else.
And since some would have never met in real life, they wanted to research how interactions between them would play out
Mhm.
And to keep those meetings in a controlled environment as much as possible, they needed other things to stay away from the outer edges
Just because you're from the same period doesn't mean you're from the same place and time.
Like let's use Kentrosaurus and Allosaurus.
They would've never met because they're from two different continents all together.
But they're both from the Jurassic.
Or carno and t.rex becauseeven tho they both lived in the cretaceous, they lived on opposite sides of the earth with an ocean between them
Exactly.
The aviary was probably to test new species before sending them out into the island.
i.e. if you have a new cretaceous species, probably test it with other cretaceous species you have and then work your way through other periods.
Fair chance that’s probably it
And when you're done, send some individuals out onto the island so they can build up a population like the others.
It makes me SUPER curious and excited to see what we’ll find on Hope and what can be pieced together from that info
Oh indubitably, maybe there will be structures with an interior we can explore and place nests.
Who knows! We’ll just have to wait and see. Then explore all we can
Does anyone know what the attract call is for?
Fancy way of saying Friendly call
all calls are generally just there for the player. They dont affect gameplay....... yet
U sure? If you call, half the map will hear you
Anyone see the new rav vid with the lore stuff
@placid harness The one with Para talking about Æ and stuff? If so then yeah. I like they’ve taken the “mysterious umbrella company” approach rather than just another “dinos in military ooga booga” JW plotline
I like it too
How he specified "they make your shampoo and gmo food" really demonstrates the extent of influence they have in the world
It'd explain how they'd have the resources to, you know, transfer human consciousness via technology
I wonder how far they’ll go with it. Perhaps we’ll get some SCP D-Class level stuff with governments influenced by Æ just sending off their prisoners to be used for testing and shit
And then there’s the PMC who signed the “thousand life contract” which makes me feel like there’s some sort of consciousness transfer for them too
I wonder for the appeal if it’s basically like “you can live forever but you’re on this horrific jungle island filled with horrific ways you can keep dying”
That's what I was thinking
I mean obviously Æ wants more from them too probably but that would be the main selling point
We can give you immortality and literally whatever life you ever wanted, but you have to go through Dante's Inferno and back for us first
Yeah
That's an enticing offer
We also don’t know how far in the future this is right?
I mean Primal is like 2020s iirc (or 2040s I can’t remember) so obviously it’s after that
Now the part that intrigued me
Is that paradym said their main purpose was not "ooga booga weaponry sell for war"
So there is a higher purpose that life itself is being tampered with for some reason
Perhaps it will be a scenario where it could literally split the player base on whether or not AE are the good guys or the bad guys
and that could shape in game faction relations too
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of corrupt CEO or even like a “cult” (like the UAC from Doom) in the higher ups of Æ looking to use all this as research to live forever?
And then if the replicator is still a thing, where that all comes into it?
I kinda see the replicator as - "Hey, we built God." and that could have lead to some existential disagreements and stuff
Let’s say the “cult” thing is real, perhaps the humans that get turned into the tribals (assuming the tribals aren’t raised from childhood) are lower level volunteers who want to worship the replicator as their chance of immortality?
Could be
Imagine if you literally built a godlike machine
Do you submit yourselves to gain excellence or do you think its a bad idea?
In that case then the old tweets from 2018(?) would have more of a place to fit in, considering that’s still relevant. Then there’s all those Greek mythology pseudonyms if they’re still a thing?
Also yeah no doubt there’d be a split
Sometimes I wonder how often Dondi momentarily stops by here just to laugh at us putting together what tiny scraps of info we have
Or maybe he goes back into his google doc and changes things to something he sees that he likes in here
Maybe, but pretty sure he’s said he’s had the whole thing in his head for a long time
But who knows
Perhaps a nice lore-friendly way to implement a second merc faction far into development if that ever becomes a thing would be to make them like an opposition group maybe (e.g Chaos Insurgency) filled with scientists etc who left/escaped after disagreeing with the whole Replicator stuff, maybe even ex-Phoenix employees who survived Operation Inferno?
Perhaps give them tasks to like capture specimens or disrupt operations and shit maybe?
Or steal data and stuff
I think we're going to have the ability to make our own factions, kinda like how dinosaurs can make their own packs / groups
No doubt that’ll happen too
Perhaps when mods are a thing that would be a round-based game mode somebody comes up with
I've always been of the opinion that it'd be like a matrix scenario with the mercs
Follow AE's orders and carry out your tasks for rewards
Or deviate from this path and see how far this rabbit hole goes
Yeah probably
I’m looking forward to the “environment-based storytelling” that’s always been talked about, can’t wait to go explore some abandoned facility to see what fucked up experiments went on in there
Wasn't there something once about the dinosaurs being the trapped minds of the former AE staff of the Isle
I believe Don teased that the dinos are a endlessly reincarnated ecosystem, which is how we explain away respawn
Was quite a long time ago however in retrospect
Yeah that’s the consciousness transfer stuff everyone is on about
Someone analysed the death screen which mentions something about large amounts of data almost at human brain levels being “uploaded” or something (you’ll have to scroll a fair bit to find it I think)
Imagine a immortal purgatory of eternally being born and dying as various animals
But then what would explain the Strains then?
Would they just be errors along the way.. or a rival company taking their coding to make monsters?
Or hell what about the Matriarch and the Strain Mascots (Colossus, Reaper, Mastermind)?
project hades shows they weren't accidents
So they were deliberate.
But then what about the Mascots?
remember everything ae does is very deliberate
Would they have like a 'controlling' mind or something?
Like.. every strain is some sorta hivemind.
neuros have a hive mind
that's already been confirmed
and hypos are just giant mops
Oh right, forgot.
Then what about Hypers and Tisos?
I'm legit tryna refrain from saying hypo because it's actually incorrect
Well what about their mascots, minus Mastermind.
Would Colossus be like their 'alpha' or somethin?
their humans that have been affected by strains
echinda shares a lot of the tribals and the eyeless things
and colossus is mia
Oh yeah, Cannibals are the tribal people.
two different things
And the 096 lookin' fuckers have no name.
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Dondi's Twitter- https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi
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Yeah, he said the tribal's names are cannibals.
watch all the way through
Oh yeah that's an odd thought I've had.
Ok so.
If Matriarch is canon. What would she really be made out of?
I mean she should be somewhat canon, given the older loading screens.
the matriarch is in a sense the epitome of what ae is aiming with the dinosaurs
evolution
the creature that is born when you play god
Oh here's the screen.
read carefully
compound in this instance is just referring to a facility
context matters
True, but that would mean that whatever they were trying to take back was using the compound for shelter.
And they were using something else to track it.
it's already been stated that all living things on the island have trackers
Or maybe I'm reading it wrong..
I thought you couldn't see your coords anymore.
Oh that stat screen
a more up to date image
@vague dome How did u make the food water and stamina colored like that on the bottom right? i wanna know how to do that
@green holly that’s from an old version of the game
I think it's been mentioned that nested offspring lack the trackers, and that it's the benefit of being nested in
Oh
any idea on the giant skeleton under titan lake along with the ruins
That's a Matriarch, according to the Wiki
Never trust wiki, we don't currently know what it actually is.
Wiki is good in terms of figuring out what in game stuff is.
i.e. growth times, food consumption rates, etc.
But not really good for lore.
So I saw in Ravs video that Dondi said that name of the new island is related to Spero. There’s a popular Italian saying that goes “as long as there is life, there is hope.” (Spero meaning hope in Italian), so I think the new island will be called Isla Vita, which is Italian for life.
Ur on to something
Has anyone figured out the names of the other islands yet?
There’s a saying:
“There’s no life without hope”
Spero = Hope
Life = Vita
Possible Isla Vita confirmed?
French name?
Spero is not spanish at all
Spero is Italian
yes
It’s worth mentioning that the entity that came up with the title EVRIMA may not be the entity responsible for giving each island its name, the islands more than likely predate any corporation or entity in the game.
Therefore their name’s may also follow suit.
Latin proverb: Dum Spiro Spero (While I Breathe, I Hope)
True spero actually translates to “I hope.” Spe translates to “hope.”
italian translation for Breathe is respirare
Breathe could also be another way to say life
Where do you think Isle Spero is ? With new eucalyptus, wouldn't it be around australia ?

