but they always go for humans and DNA experiments to get all known dinosaurs at same time at same location
#isle-lore-theories
foggy sorrel
swift robin
I mean, just being able to successfully implant a "human consciousness" into another organism, or being able to control other organisms remotely, could have big implications for the military, nevermind the forced evolution bit. Not just "oh look, our dinosaurs are so powerful."
Not using dinosaurs to fight, but I could see military resources being invested in these types of experiments for other reasons. Ditto on DNA experiments. Anything that can be used to control a large population is strategically valuable in theory right?
icy onyx
If I understand your point, it would be used as a mind control, then
a) people not affected would start insurgency
b) There would be international backlash
high heath
I mean, what purpose would a Hyper animal have other than wiping out everything?
You could use that for illegal shit or just to start over an island
swift robin
I was just suggesting that it's not inconceivable that a military power would be interested in all the utility of what's going on on the island. People keep saying stuff about how with modern technology, dinosaurs would be useless. But while it's possible that using dinosaurs for their firepower is a little ridiculous, it doesn't mean that the military would never invest in whatever is happening on the island, as far as I know. Not that I have military experience or anything.
feral agate
I'll say it again, AE just uses dinos cuz the CEO likes them
icy onyx
I mean, isnt it better to spend money on better tanks if tanks are already so effective?
so why not make them better
feral agate
genetic engineering could open some massive, and I say massive potentials
viscid pulsar
Carnage has came home
barren kelp
not even gonna mention the roar after that sentence was displayed?
edgy pike
Sounds like the primal roar ngl
still trout
For a Better Tomorrow
teal depot
It really does sound like the primal carnage T-rex
Collab?
Holy shit what if they had a collab event
odd sable
He confirmed in #401464048610312195 like a minute ago.
fast stratus
So...is it Apollo Engineering or Apollo Enterprises? Asking for Writing Reasons
serene gull
eh i dont think so
fast stratus
thank ya kindly
placid harness
That's the classic Primal Carnage Rex roar with a new twist.
twin vale
edgy pike
The best damned crossover episode there ever was
severe kernel
just an interesting snippet from the trailer 👀
sweet zephyr
We finally know what the three word code was.
edgy pike
I think it’s been known to be that for a long time though
icy onyx
C C H we already knew it was Carnage Comes Home.
sweet zephyr
Aww damnit, it's been so long I forgot.
icy onyx
I mean we speculated it... Like years ago.
glossy walrus
So I translated the binary that is shown in the text portion of the video [01000101 00110000 01000001 00110101 00110011 00110110 01000100 00110110 00110001 00110111 00110011 00110110 00111000 00110111 00110100 00110110 01000110 00110110 01000101 00110010 00110000 00110100 00111001 00110110 01000101 00110110 00110011 00110010 00110000 00110110 00110101 00110111 00110010 00110110 00110001]
And it translates to a random string of numbers & letters***[E0A536D617368746F6E20496E6320657261]***
Does anyone think they can make sense of it?
It could simply be nothing, but who knows..
vague dome
it's a random sequnce of binary made to fool people who look to far into this shit
glossy walrus
Damn
barren kelp
in relation to the roar at the end of Hope.. i'm just sayin', ya know?
icy onyx
Wat does the primal thing mean at the end
barren kelp
Carnage
glossy walrus
The partnership/combining of The Isle and Primal Carnage
edgy pike
Yes
supple dome
We've all known for ages now that primal and the isle are one in the same.
Or at least in the same universe.
barren kelp
orchid delta
If not known, we have surely suspected.
icy onyx
magna rex
supple dome
Yup
supple dome
With it's real skin
barren kelp
hes big papa
supple dome
Hes gorgeous
icy onyx
magna rex=primal carnage rex?
supple dome
Yup
edgy pike
Yes magna rex is the “uh”
barren kelp
carnage came home
icy onyx
i thought like hes explained before how magna=/= primal carnage rex
supple dome
You don't need it in words to know that its confirmed.
Look at his Twitter for the carnage tweet.
Look at all the links. Lore hints blatant proof of the connection etc
I mean. The primal rex call at the end of the video should be enough proof as it is.
orchid delta
I mean the moment I saw the Magna rex I assumed it was based on, if not the same animal as PC's rex.
heavy thistle
The magna rex literally is the primal carnage rex except more of a greenish gray tint
To me that’s how it looks
barren kelp
and.. reportedly, the first color scheme for pc rex's model was greenish gray too.. later returned as a skin!
placid harness
Even way back when they denied any primal carnage connection the lore that we already had was extremely similar.
Right down to the same names of entities.
supple dome
I mean. Just look at the isles credits would ya
fluid zealot
So from what we've gathered now, two organizations have brought back dinosaurs
supple dome
They credit primal carnage ffs
shy jungle
They share same lore
Hell some of the isle devs even worked on it before the isle was a thing
fluid zealot
This does raise some questions
edgy pike
Aight my brain hurts too much to think imma sleep
Damn preview video keeping me up till 2:20 AM
fluid zealot
Is the Magna Rex an imported dinosaur not created by Apollo or simply what happens when you loan your friend a recipe?
shy jungle
It was stolen by apollo
placid harness
^ Unconfirmed if that lore holds up.
orchid delta
"Hey man we are having some issues with our genetically modified super rex."
"No worries bruh, you can borrow ours. It'll kick your's teeth in."
shy jungle
True that bit may not even be canon anymore
fluid zealot
Now this is interesting though because that indicates that the dinosaur genetics competition is as common as rivalry between theme parks
heavy thistle
Stolen by Apollo to fight the dinosaurs and hypos that AE made for the military
All lore of magna rex/PC rex right there
fluid zealot
Now that's what interests me though, did they steal the DNA or take an actual Rex from the overrun island?
supple dome
I mean. There was a recovery mission to steal DNA
From what we know
Operation inferno I believe it was called
fluid zealot
My guess is that presumably it was both
supple dome
I doubt they took a live animal that big
fluid zealot
Well think about it
barren kelp
the big daddy specimen was confirmed dead at some point i think?
barren kelp
with heavy weaponry at least
fluid zealot
Rather than wasting billions to make another one, they take one and put it in the field to test it's capabilities
glossy walrus
Isle devs you really did me like that huh
fluid zealot
Just to ask, do you remember who made the dinosaurs in Primal Carnage?
heavy thistle
Lmao
glossy walrus
i think it was jndl[]l[]d'nfnjlflfljnfngllnjl
fluid zealot
Gotcha, so Phoenix International, and Apollo Engineering. They both partook in the resurrection of dinosaurs. Question is, are these the only two organizations who have accomplished this?
supple dome
Just in case yall needed it in words
fluid zealot
Nice! So it is in fact a tie-in. Alright, this provides some material
still steppe
tfw the isle has been primal carnage reborn all along
glossy walrus
lol
grim snow
Guys ever wondered about the fact that the preview video shows us 'jungles'. And they look exactly like the jungles in primal carnage maps like 'airbase', 'forest path' etc.? We now know PCE is confirmed to game lore, due to the roar of the primal carnage tyrannosaurus at the end. But its a scarily similar jungle to the PCE maps which I think is a really smart move lmao
barren kelp
bruh The Isle is just Primal Carnage Genesis
still steppe
i'm gonna cry if there's a pce rex that pops up somewhere when the recode is out
stable quail
I had a friend try to decode the numbers and he came out with something about a big rex
trim palm
post or its truthn't
stable quail
Im asking him right now
he knows nothing about the game though so im assuming theres some truth behind it
glossy walrus
Numbers?
stable quail
glossy walrus
Oh
I translated nearly all of those, it's gibberish and/or not relevant until recode comes out
This trailer made me reinstall the Isle though
glossy walrus
After no news for months on end, I needed space for other things that were more relevant
But now the tables have turned
supple dome
Nothing is more relevant than the isle. Ever.
glossy walrus
Well....
supple dome
Nope don't care
Anyway, theories.
So. Phoenix international huh
Seems like they expanded again
floral yoke
Went through to decode some of the binary, but it all seemed to be gibberish. Found this one line of seemingly-random letters/numbers in the middle of the binary, though. Not sure if it means anything?
Oh pfft @glossy walrus was already on that XD
unique flax
binary is only 1-0 if i believe
placid harness
The results of the binary translation could be something.
Not to send anyone on a wild goose chase.
floral yoke
The binary seems like gibberish to me
placid harness
I mean, it could be another thing you need to convert to something.
That could also be my tin foil hat speaking.
floral yoke
Oh true
placid harness
There could be different layers to it lol
glossy walrus
1 moment
I found something
I might have to go in and figure out what is causing the format issues, but there is a start to something
This is what all of the strings put together translates into
floral yoke
Oh? Interesting
placid harness
It looks like an unfinished "Operation Inferno"
Which, if I remember, was the acquiring of Phoenix Corp. assets by AE.
Which makes sense for the video.
glossy walrus
That would make sense
glossy walrus
Seems the rest is nonsense, but I'll continue looking into it and report if I find anything
floral yoke
I was just about to post that lol
glossy walrus
Thanks!
placid harness
Also spero means hope in spanish so
To fit with the whole JP inspiration thing there's that.
floral yoke
Yeah, Isla Spero is the name of the island
glossy walrus
The "Operation Inf" most likely references that asset acquisition. Do we know more about what Operation Inferno included? Any stuff besides the transfer?
floral yoke
There's some information on Operation Inferno here
Phoenix International is the company from Primal Carnage and that info on that page makes A&E and Phoenix seem like rivals. Maybe Don is hinting at an interlocking plot or something?
Idk, I don't keep up on Isle lore or anything so idk what's already known or not lol
past trench
placid harness
Both are.
languid silo
serene gull
pleaaaaseee god that it wont be exactly like primal carnage with all the damn shooting and burning pyros and stuff
i went to the isle to escape that stuff
primal carnage is cool and all but i dont want the isle to be shooter team death matches
glossy walrus
As far as we know, the Isle is not changing in any way other than what we've been told.
Regarding PC.
Which is, the universes are merging.
supple dome
Don't need to merge, it was always part of it lol
oak pumice
"Phoenix International assets acquired"
Dondi bought the rights to Primal Carnage (Phoenix Corp)
"Current status awaiting evaluation"
beta testing...?
supple dome
It's still the isle, just with story and more content.
floral yoke
Wait Dondi bought the rights to PC?
oak pumice
or otherwise acquired
supple dome
Looks at his tweets
glossy walrus
If it was always a part of it, why would Dondi need to buy the rights to PC?
oak pumice
because he wasn't the only dev on that project
supple dome
To say it is. Not just plan it
glossy walrus
I'm saying it's not always been official
supple dome
Ehhhh
I suppose
But it was always planned
And tbf the lore was there for a LONG ass time
high heath
So, does that mean we can see a merge of PC assets (such as bases or references) in The Isle?
supple dome
Yuuuup
floral yoke
It seems so far like they're keeping the games completely separate, but possibly just with a merging of lore
high heath
I would love to see that crashed plane
supple dome
Elite that ain't true at all
All you have to do is look in game for the signs. And Easter eggs.
Lore stuff is obviously a thing. But theres going to be so much more to it than just that.
high heath
Hmm...my question is, how will Phoenix relate to AE
Are they rival companies are allies working on the same thing?
oak pumice
......Rav posted a screenshot about this
supple dome
Rival companies I'd say considering project inferno
floral yoke
I meant like they have completely different feels
Not easter eggs
PC is very battle royale
Isle is survival
oak pumice
i mran...realism vs deathmatch servers in Isle are totally different gameplay experiences
floral yoke
Yeah I meant gameplay-wise lol
True, but deathmatch are less of what they seem to actually be intending for the gameplay of the Isle
it's on a server basis, created more by the players
serene gull
so its like there just becuse they felt like it?
like "hey lets put pheonix and isle together" den dats it?
floral yoke
No, I’m saying I think the lore will be connected, but that the gameplay will stay completely different
They’ve always been two different styles of games
barren kelp
supersized, armored tyrannosaurus? that ring any bells?
serene gull
.......................no way.............................
the rex we fought all along in primal was a hypo?
jk
river marsh
Closer to magna
slow delta
still waiting on the hyper alfie storyline part of the lore
it could have major complications in the story tbh, it's a dino who survived operation inferno, became a hyper and then escaped
placid harness
I think one of the problems is
A lot of things survived Operation Inferno that might not have supposed to have.
placid harness
My head canon is that Phoenix International was advancing their technology for a more military oriented purpose.
icy onyx
But like how would it be worth it for military
placid harness
Just hear me out for a second.
What better way to test the power to control life than to bring things back that have been dead for millions of years?
Dinosaurs. Nice.
But are those the only things Phoenix could have been making?
I don't think so. Not in the slightest.
icy onyx
As long as it isnt another 'using dinos for combat' I guess
placid harness
Because if they could do something like that, I can see them getting very very ambitious.
Not quite.
This is where strains and the like may come in.
icy onyx
the strains would only be worth it if adapted for humans
placid harness
Why test on humans first? Why not animals with no rights?
icy onyx
I mean yea that makes sense tbh
placid harness
Now here is what I'm thinking.
There is a very good reason AE acquired things from Phoenix.
And that is because Phoenix was on to something.
I think there were some very horrible, powerful secrets being cooked up in Phoenix's most tightly shut doors that went beyond even the dinosaurs.
Where did they get these things? I don't know. They could have made them. Maybe it came from somewhere on the Island itself.
So I'm really starting to believe this island wasn't just selected by chance and all.
Or less out of convenience.
I'm thinking Phoenix originally set up camp on the island because A. they could do so unrestricted, undisturbed and B. because there was something already there to take advantage of. That's just how humans work, we need incentives to go places.
Keep in mind this is wild wild speculation)
So maybe someone goes to this weird little island and they discover an indigenous population (tribals).
They notice these tribals are really weird and disfigured. They are obviously under the influence of something.
Whatever is influencing them on a genetic level is very exploitable.
A few handshakes and deals later, they have a full operation.
Phoenix does its thing. They end up trying to control something which can't be controlled. Collapse. Everything escapes.
Some people escape. Some don't. Those who don't are subject to very very horrible things.
slow delta
i feel like AE's plant strains could be used for farming purposes
imagine magnifying production thousandfold with hyper strain crops
placid harness
That's right.
slow delta
although
the strain trees look absolutely useless for farming
they probably destroy the land they grow in by draining everything in the soil
placid harness
Maybe.
I'm basically thinking this - AE caught wind of the Phoenix incident. Annexed the island. Realized that Phoenix left a lot of really really valuable things behind, but they of course still needed to research it themselves to understand what the fuck happened.
It could be like me stumbling on Thomas Wayne's dead body in Gotham with his credit cards and everything on him. Yeah, I'd like to know what the fuck happened. Yeah, I should report it. But the possibilities for what I could do with it are limitless if I just use it myself.
So basically I believe Phoenix left behind very promising research and "materials" after being BTFO'd. Which may or may not include strains. Which may or may not be have their roots in the island itself.
So what's AE doing right now by transferring human consciousnesses across different animal bodies?
I really don't fuckin know.
I do also have a theory that the tribals have a lot more influence on the island than we think.
oblique zealot
carnage comes home ?
edgy pike
Scroll up @oblique zealot
opaque crane
This is for lore theories, dude. You mightve meant to put this in #401464048610312195
gloomy olive
toxic gorge
PHOENIX?
icy onyx
wut?
obsidian dagger
is there any decoding left?
copper cloud
Did you see the Bronchi?
icy onyx
yes
copper cloud
okay then 
fluid zealot
It's interesting though, being the Magna and PC Rex are now confirmed to be one in the same, it makes you wonder why Apollo wanted to use it to kill the Hypo Rex.
icy onyx
Is pc rex and manga rex the same thing
icy onyx
Noice
drifting night
Did you guys also notice the human footprints when they showed the coastal area?
fluid zealot
Tribals mayhaps?
fluid zealot
Something I took note of though is that Apollo's goal in creating dinosaurs is that these are considerably "true dinosaurs" in The Isle universe with little to no DNA substitutions, so why do you they need to call upon an older creation of a rivaling genetics company?
Being the Magna, in order to kill the Hypo?
icy onyx
@toxic gorge phoenix corporation from primal carnage is canmon, type m rex is rex from pc
icy onyx
Is nova same as magna raptor
fluid zealot
Possibly
icy onyx
Actually no. The 'utahraptor' we all know and love is either deformed nova v3 or a brand new v4
Magna is something else
fluid zealot
All we know is that the Magna Rex is the PC Rex
timber sorrel
Manga Rex?
crystal pecan
Do you guys think the rebuild will be a Christmas present?😁
opaque crane
not the place for that, and no, because the recode still needs to be tested and actually finished. this channel is for lore theories
upbeat urchin
For seamless growth I wonder if we will seamless growth into a hypo if something happens to our dino 🤔
high heath
@timber sorrel The Magna Tyrannosaurus
weak condor
Ooo that sounds cool
orchid delta
Damn that image brings back memories. I remember playing the original PC with that feathered raptor skin.
nova hill
So if the Utah is an unfeathered nova (which idk if it's true, they look the same so u could be right) Does this mean that the isle and PC take place at the same locations? Because Im thinking of the Domes, there are tons of bird domes in PC:E and a couple in the isle. I think the isle takes place right after PC:E. But like is it just a re-branded Phoenix Int. or is it that, phoenix has it's dinosaurs and AE has its dinosaurs and AE is using the Magna for whatever reason? If that's the case Nova probably wouldnt be Utahraptor (if it even matters)
fringe wolf
sorry, is that not a person on the left?
under the rex skull, just me??
like a person, with bones on their chest/in arms and a gun on a sling over their chest too??
outer knoll
Looks like it!
nocturne cosmos
That’s a thing from PC
nova hill
im pretty sure thats one of the billboards in PC:E (someone holding a dinosaur?)
loud river
Can I see it?
nocturne cosmos
I don’t have a picture of it on me you should be able to find it by just googling
vapid nacelle
I think a lot of people mist this
vapid nacelle
I’m just pointing it out.
jaunty summit
icy onyx
nod to PC
opaque crane
reference to primal carnage
vapid nacelle
^
icy onyx
velvet niche
Why
barren kelp
i feel obligated to get a modern screencap of that sign in the game
velvet niche
This not i Think with the screenshots
barren kelp
hd remaster
icy onyx
@fringe wolf this thing "for a better tomorrow" is a billboard thing from primal carnage. You can find it at map called docks. Thing at the left is a person hugging/holding compsognathus
Oof didint noticed that someone posted it
I love how they made primal carnage be cannon in The Isle
At least Rex from PC
cobalt thorn
New Spino on a tropical island, maybe we could find a JP3 crashed plane Easter egg in the jungle hmm? Anyone think that might be a thing or nah?
opaque crane
i dont think the spino being on the new map which is a tropical island is a nod to jurassic park 3. its just showing off new stuff on the new map
icy onyx
This place looks like JP2 beggining with this girl who got eaten by compy
cobalt thorn
ya it does
i don't think the Spino being on that map is a nod to it, i just think that with there being a new thick jungle there could of been an opportunity to put in a little nod to the plane crash at the start of JP3 or maybe some structures from JP2/3. but we will have to wait n see
serene wadi
Time to dissect the shit out of the binary code at the end of the video.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/14/2659870916599696913/
serene wadi
You absolute trooper.
odd epoch
its all nonsense i tried
serene wadi
It's probably a bunch of different codes
slim lynx
Wonder what it reveals
odd epoch
that took like an hour to type so it better be a release date or smth
icy onyx
hm.. I ran the first code through simple binary to ascii and this what ive got
Ç&ȦÇ&æfææFÆ&æÇ&ÈÆ
odd epoch
nonsense
icy onyx
yep
serene wadi
Or is it?
slim lynx
I used a binary translator and got this
Ç&ȦÇ&æfææFÆ&æÇ&ÈÆE0AjfD61.±Á¹¡²1²)¡É²)±ÈÀØÙ¹±4F7065726174696F6Tɡɲ)³cjndlldnfnjlflfljnfnfllnjl ©️csƦF¦ÇÈÆƦȦÇ&çF&ÈfæÇ L ÍMM±É±¡±sCc#©️²)±¡±©️¹¡¹²1²ÙÙ±±¡²!±É²ØäÜÌÜÐÜÈØÄÜѱɲ1E0 MLÍ MÌÞ8nhlldhäÙØÌÈÀØÔÜÈØ4F7065726174696F6Tɡɲ)³cjndlld`nfnjlflfljnfnfllnjl ©️csƦF¦ÇÈÆƦȦÇ&çF&ÈfæÇ
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icy onyx
ye they all seem to be either nonsense or idk
placid harness
Ah yes
The results of the binary from the trailer are in hexadecimal.
Which is simple. We just put it through an easy to find online convertor from hex to text.
First series,
"Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation"
odd epoch
Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation"!!��V旂��FW&�F����76WG27V�&VB7W'&V�B7FGW2v�F��rWf�VF���
toa you are a god send
slim lynx
Hexadecimal translator gave me this
c3 87 26 c3 88 c2 a6 c3 87 26 c3 a6 66 c3 a6 c2 86 c3 a6 46 c3 86 26 c3 a6 c2 86 c3 87 26 c3 88 c3 86 45 30 41 6a 66 44 36 31 2e 19 c2 b1 c3 81 c2 b9 c2 a1 c2 b2 31 c2 b2 29 c2 91 c2 81 c2 a1 c3 89 c2 b2 29 c2 b1 c2 98 c3 88 c3 80 c3 98 c3 99 c2 b9 c2 91 c2 b1 34 46 37 30 36 35 37 32 36 31 37 34 36 39 36 46 36 54 c3 89 c2 81 c2 a1 c3 89 c2 b2 29 c2 b3 63 6a 6e 64 6c c2 8a 6c c2 8c 64 6e 66 6e 6a 6c 66 6c 66 6c 6a 6e 66 6e 66 6c 6c 6e 6a 6c 19 c2 91 c2 81 c2 82 20 20 20 20 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 93 63 c2 93 73 c2 86 c3 86 c2 a6 46 06 c2 a6 06 c3 87 06 c3 88 c3 86 c3 86 c2 a6 c3 88 c2 a6 c3 87 26 c3 a7 06 46 06 c2 86 26 c3 88 66 c3 a6 06 c3 87 0d 0a c2 8c 4c c2 8c 0d 0a c2 8d c3 8d c2 8d 4d c2 91 4d c2 8d c2 b1 c3 89 c2 b1 c2 99 c2 91 c2 81 c2 a1 c2 b1 c2 89 73 43 63 13 23 03 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 b2 29 c2 b1 c2 a1 c2 b1 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 b9 c2 91 c2 91 c2 81 c2 a1 c2 89 c2 b9 c2 81 c2 b2 31 c2 b2 c3 99 c3 99 11 c2 91 c2 81 c2 b1 c2 89 c2 b1 c2 a1 c2 b2 21 c2 b1 c3 89 c2 b2 14 c3 98 c3 a4 c3 9c c3 8c c3 9c c3 90 c3 9c c3 88 c3 98 c3 84 c3 9c c3 91 c2 b1 c3 89 c2 b2 31 45 30 20 4d 4c c3 8d c2 91 0d 0a c2 8c 4d c3 8c c3 9e 38 6e 68 6c c2 8c 6c c2 8a 64 68 c3 a4 c3 99 14 c3 98 c3 8c c3 88 c3 80 c3 98 c3 94 c3 9c c3 88 c3 98 34 46 37 30 36 35 37 32 36 31 37 34 36 39 36 46 36 54 c3 89 c2 81 c2 a1 c3 89 c2 b2 29 c2 b3 63 6a 6e 64 6c c2 8a 6c c2 8c 64 60 6e 66 6e 6a 6c 66 6c 66 6c 6a 6e 66 6e 66 6c 6c 6e 6a 6c 19 c2 91 c2 81 c2 82 20 20 20 20 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 93 63 c2 93 73 c2 86 c3 86 c2 a6 46 06 c2 a6 06 c3 87 06 c3 88 c3 86 c3 86 c2 a6 c3 88 c2 a6 c3 87 26 c3 a7 06 46 06 c2 86 26 c3 88 66 c3 a6 06 c3 87 0d 0a c2 8c 4c c2 8c 0d 0a c2 8d c3 8d c2 8d 4d c2 91 4d c2 8d c2 b1 c3 89 c2 b1 c2 99 c2 91 c2 81 c2 a1 c2 b1 c2 89 73 43 63 13 23 03 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 b2 29 c2 b1 c2 a1 c2 b1 c2 a9 ef b8 8f c2 b9 c2 91 c2 91 c2 81 c2 a1 c2 89 c2 b9 c2 81 c2 b2 34 46 37 30 36 35 37 32 36 31 37 34 36 39 36 46 36 54 c3 89 c2 81 c2 a1 c3 89 c2 b2 29 c2 b3 63 45 30 41 35 33 36 44
odd epoch
i stuck it in one too and i got "Phoenix International assets acquired current status awaiting evaluation" then a bunch of nonsense
seems like all the binary is nonsense and the hex is the only thing that makes sense
placid harness
So all of the binary, converted directly to text, gets us this.
Ç&ȦÇ&æfææFÆ&æÇ&ÈÆE0AjfD61.±Á¹¡²1²)¡É²)±ÈÀØÙ¹±4F7065726174696F6Tɡɲ)³cjndlld`nfnjlflfljnfnfllnjl ©️csƦF¦ÇÈÆƦȦÇ&çF&ÈfæÇ L ÍMM±É±¡±sCc#©️²)±¡±©️¹¡¹²1²ÙÙ±±¡²!±É²ØäÜÌÜÐÜÈØÄÜѱɲ1E0 MLÍ MÌÞ8nhlld`häÙØÌÈÀØÔÜÈØ4F7065726174696F6Tɡɲ)³cjndlld`nfnjlflfljnfnfllnjl ©️csƦF¦ÇÈÆƦȦÇ&çF&ÈfæÇ L ÍMM±É±¡±sCc#©️²)±¡±©️¹¡¹²4F7065726174696F6Tɡɲ)³cE0A536D
It might look like a bunch of typed up chaos, yeah?
But there are repeating series of characters and sequences here.
"Æ" is one of them.
icy onyx
the fact that some things dont translate into a sensible char but instead into square
odd epoch
well i mean the company is AE so
icy onyx
may be that we are decoding into bad system
placid harness
There is a sequence of numbers and letters that does seem to appear more than once.
It could simply be there to throw us off but
placid harness
Repeating patterns are the only bread crumbs we have in this trail.
fringe wolf
Or are they trying to lead us the wrong way?
placid harness
Perhaps.
icy onyx
the frequency analysis will take some time
placid harness
Anyone can just take binary and convert it to text.
icy onyx
idk if there is any software that works with special chars
fringe wolf
i mean no offence, maybe look at it form another POV, if im right the devs have hidden clues in binary before, why make it so easy and do it twice?
placid harness
It's just the conversion that is easy.
fringe wolf
just a thought*
placid harness
Actual puzzle solving and code breaking isn't, if that's what they are going for.
icy onyx
sigh doesnt seem like any online frequency analysis programs work with special characters
imma have to do this manually
icy onyx
wait there is operation 3 times right?
odd epoch
im not sure
glossy walrus
I worked on this yesterday
glossy walrus
The Binary to Hex to ASCII reads "Operation Inf"
icy onyx
so operation inferno
glossy walrus
referring to Operation inferno
icy onyx
dont tell me thats all tho
odd epoch
this phrase repeats twice "cjndlldnfnjlflfljnfnfllnjlcs" but its not hex so idk
placid harness
It looks like Dondi mashed his keyboard
odd epoch
it does, but it repeats?
in the dna code at the end theres also the words "dream" and "now"
also "impos" but it cuts off
ah its "impossible"
icy onyx
any idea on word that starts with e and its 2nd and 4th letter are identical?
odd epoch
no idea
these words were hidden in the dna
Dream (x2)
Now (x2)
Impossible (x3)
Why
Notice
Perfection (x2)
Forever
Seeking
Not
Apollo
Fakes (x2)
oneldans (x2)
but it seems to be the same ones that have already been found in the launch screem
icy onyx
I am trying to do some frequency analysis nonsense and so far I got aeisaehnhohtdehoaeitr, now if I split the start it comes out as ae is a e..... idk
odd epoch
no idea
odd epoch
what
icy onyx
I mean, either I am onto something
or its just completely random and I am wasting my time on it
odd epoch
prbly random, but dondi has hidden stuff rly well before so
feral agate
Godspeed you bastards. Bless your knowledge of computer stuff
icy onyx
yea my knowledge of english is lacking
and I really dont want to waste my time trying to force my way through
lul
odd epoch
i know almost nothing about decoding so i cant be of much help
icy onyx
ill work on it more tommorow
icy onyx
I just noticed that there is way bigger creature than a compies next to them, may it be a Troodon?
drifting night
^
delicate condor
If you're talking about the shadowy one that's literally just another compy lol
edgy pike
^
thick summit
anyone else think that’s a cerato? i messed with the image and i’m fairly certain based on the snout structures that a big cerato is stalking the stegos
drifting night
I get what you mean, but that's defo an allo
been playing too much of that dino to know how it looks like crouched
cerato has got it's legs close to each other when it crouches, allo has one leg behind and one infront, like in the video
deft saffron
I personally feel it’s an allo
edgy pike
In the jungle sequence, I'm pretty sure all 5 of the little dudes are the same species
odd epoch
Looks like a cerato to me but who knows
unique holly
it's an allo 
icy onyx
broken hinge
alguem BR aki ?
icy onyx
Well I guess that is conclusive proof
subtle siren
@broken hinge eu br
hardy dove
Aquatic plants deinosuchus can hide in? And maybe some tall enough to ambush from... hm
delicate condor
Im pretty sure all they're doing is combining the story of The isle and primal carnage. It's not like they can actually add characters from either game since the graphics are totally different
icy onyx
@delicate condor Its not like Magna rex is PC rex... oh wait
delicate condor
?
icy onyx
our magna rex is the rex from primal carnage
copying characters from game to game actually isnt that difficult
delicate condor
Thats one rex
I mean to combine everything, every map, every dino. I doubt thats the case. Like I said, im pretty sure they're just combing the story line
But who knows. Primal carnage is a dead game, idc about the whole carnage comes home and all that. More excited for the new map and dinos :D
gilded tartan
who think january recode will be out?
ionic zealot
i want it nooow
icy onyx
this is for lore theories
obtuse zephyr
Phoenix Industries is investigating the island Isla Spero to find a way to capture, ship, and combat dinosaurs whilst AE is using scientific methods to create mutant strains or study the biological niches that inhabit the island.
icy onyx
pheonix corp was pretty much destroyed during operation inferno tho
thick summit
@unique holly i see now
icy onyx
why it say carnage comes home?
dire echo
Tie-in with Primal Carnage
icy onyx
This sauropod in the background have diffrent shape of neck than a brachio, may it be an bronotosaurus/diplodocus/apatasaurus
Only pic i found^
The old thing devs made
slim lynx
That's brachi
marble canopy
i thought the devs said that there most likely wont be playable sauropods due to the fact that they have a boring play style or smthin
so why would they make so many different sauropod ai?
marble canopy
oof sorry
serene silo
high heath
feral agate
Boi got sun burns
high heath
sharp kestrel
Isn't that model from Primal Carnage?
icy onyx
I don't know but it looks hot
high heath
So we know that PC exists in The Isle, right?
The Hope trailer kinda proves they exist in the same time
high heath
No, I mean it is confirmed, no?
icy onyx
in that context yea I guess so
deft saffron
Magna Rex and PC Rex are not the same model, but they’re similar, we don’t know what times either one take place, but I guess we do know that they’re in the same universe
high heath
Yeah, I assume AE bought the genetic template and improved it
feral agate
Bought? More like stole, i bet
icy onyx
'bought' operation inferno iflicted material damage
multiple specimens were lost and atrium b+c were destroyed
feral agate
icy onyx
except they caused the destruction
feral agate
Ain't stealing If they dead
high heath
Ain't grave robbing either
Just a dead company
I assume they bought or obtained the genetic templates legally.
opaque crane
I'm assuming what they did was most certainly not legal considering they caused so much damage in the process
icy onyx
I mean they destroyed 2 atriums
and few specimens
that hardly happens during legal exchange
opaque crane
Its basically like dropping a bomb on the main office of your rival company and taking what's left of the wreckage. Not exactly legal
high heath
I mean, they sent people in to capture and kill specimens, I assume AE was actually getting legal support
No, no
Like...support
For your computer
high heath
This is theories for lore and stuff
fleet nova
Ok thanks you
high heath
No problem man
delicate condor
Phoenix definately created the PC dinos. So does that mean they created the isle dinos as well? And is AE just the mercenaries who will kill the dinos? Or did both companies create their own dinos?
high heath
They likely created dinosaurs at the same time
delicate condor
So like two rival dino making companies?
delicate condor
Eh it's fun but it gets old
icy onyx
I mean, it also makes sense taken the history of multiple devs
delicate condor
The question is will they continue to be allies or rivals in the isle 2.0?
icy onyx
that worked on PC
delicate condor
PC also has cryos
high heath
The company in PC is gone when The Isle takes place, so I assume AE just owns it and its stuff now
delicate condor
Wonder of they'll add cryos now
Is there an update involving the isle coming to PC???
icy onyx
it did have patch some time ago iirc
high heath
Yeah, it had a Halloween update and a Winter update with skins
icy onyx
update 1.11 october 21st 2019
velvet niche
?
twin vale
it's pretty much a one-way street, isle can use certain Primal elements and ideas, but there's nothing flowing the other way.
flint marten
well, if The Isle's lore takes place after PC, then PC using The Isle stuff would make no sense
icy onyx
indeed
rose sparrow
Theory:
The magna is the Primal Carnage rex
In the recode trailer, we see the text “Carnage comes home” followed by the Primal Carnage rex roar.
Of course you might say “But the Magna Rex’s roar is completely different.”
But we also have to remember the Magna’s roar was given to the current rex and will stay that way for who knows how long.
The Magna Rex has amazing similarities to the PC rex in the model itself.
Possibly, the rexes we see in Primal Carnage evolved into some form of alpha rex (No Ark Survival pun intended)
These powerful creatures would then go on to dominate their ecosystems and clash with the genetically modified Type-H Strain.
(I am aware that we haven’t heard anything about the Magna Rex in two years, but it may be under covers for now.
icy onyx
iirc this has been proven a long time ago
or at least as far back as I remember everyone always tied magna with pc
rose sparrow
Thanks for the info, I may try to make a theory on how they evolved alongside the hypos.
vocal violet
Ok so is there any information that we know about the replicator, tribals lore etc?
woeful chasm
that is still accurate? not really. The most we know is summarized in the pinned messages but again, no idea how accurate it still is.
high heath
What is Inferno?
regal locust
Project inferno was basically an asset requisition endeavor by Apollo Engineering on Phoenix.
remote jungle
are the pc developers in on the tie in? Cuz they could really take advantage of that and come back from the dead
icy onyx
remote jungle
i still dont get it lol, wouldnt there be copyright issues?
waxen bridge
How long does an adult live ?
feral agate
That, is a good question, actually. How long do the "assets" live?
serene gull
so are they just like..mixing the story together and adding the primal carnage "phenix" logo onto some buildings?
serene gull
that explains alot
woeful chasm
PSA: #isle-lore-theories is for discussion regarding lore and story, not “theories” on things coming to the game, their sounds, etc. Please read the topic description.
high heath
Perhaps AE owns Phoenix now?
charred dust
PC rex escapes the lab while was tried to be transformed into a hypo rex. That PC rex that escaped is going on a killing spree and because it was meant to be a hypo it has almost the strength of one so that's why the Magna is able to kill Hypos. PC- Magna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lf_Vrs9Dy0
glossy walrus
Update: I found nothing further other than the "Operation Inf"(erno) text from the binary>hex>ascii, though it was interesting to translate and actually find something.
glossy walrus
Also big thanks to TSND for helping me a ton with this!
There is much more we had discussed but this image is just a teaser :P
icy onyx
If I wasnt a lazy bastard I would continue my frequency analysis hut oh well
mighty abyss
So the hex related to PC... was just related to PC
echo gazelle
It was on one of Dondi's streams but it wasn't saved to the history, I clipped it but it got removed since the stream no longer existed. Like Dondi said "why not just build them into the world." I assume we'll see familar structures like in PC, but idk exactly how much of PC is being referenced in isle.
barren kelp
You mean this?
echo gazelle
yeah that
vague dome
i would take that with a grain of salt
for all we know dondi has decided to both go with it than against it multiple times
echo gazelle
I know it was denied before, the whole connection and everyone got confused but I think this time it's for certain
It is for certain
vague dome
it would explain why the island is rusting away under AE's influence
since it's not their island
barren kelp
i'm really curious to see how it all turns out
echo gazelle
but there isn't a huge like connection between them, it's just being referenced, Operation Inferno destroyed the island in PC
they said before we'd know if there as a big tie of the two
vague dome
we will know when dondi wants us to know
until we can explore the map the connection will be left vauge at best
echo gazelle
the whole lore has always had me at the edge of my seat, still does, but with Phoenix being a Phoenix, it relates to Apollo, both deal with he sun, greek myth was said to be a hint in connections
Phoenix's burn themselves and are reborn in a new form
vague dome
just like how businesses are shutdown and reopened with a new brand
echo gazelle
sure
also the logos
Phoenix has the earth and dna strands with wings
isle has the hermes staff
healing, medicine
revivication, replication and what not
lofty salmon
vague dome
so if phoenix got re-branded to AE what was the driving motivation
echo gazelle
what people are waiting for now is to be able to Login again and perhaps get a console stream
vague dome
just gotta be patient as always
echo gazelle
I don't know which Island Spero is, 1,2 or 3
vague dome
could be referencing all 3 as a collective
opaque crane
*islands
echo gazelle
perhaps but there was mention from the previous console stream about 3 Islands, us being on Tartarus, idk I've lost all the memory on lore already
vague dome
doesn't help that we don't have a up to date lore page
echo gazelle
tater's site is pretty ancient, I think hellshade has been on top of things since then though
surreal junco
oops soori
icy onyx
Are yall saying Phoenix and Æ are the same
opaque crane
Theyre not the same. They were just doing the same thing and one stole assets from the other and caused apparently massive property damage and destruction of assets
icy onyx
I expected zubu to say ae ceo liked dinosaurs but yea
ae stole shit from phoenix
and destroyed them
feral agate
Because the CEO liked dinosaurs
high heath
My question is who are they hiring to capture AE documents
loud river
People who dont like dinosaurs
mighty abyss
why is everyone so convinced the assets were stolen, to me it looks more like Phoenix was bought out and the assets they had before Inferno were included
icy onyx
but why did atrium b and c get destroyed during inferno
why did multiple dino assets get destroyed during inferno
doesnt seem peaceful at all for me
feral agate
minor accidents, mr. Nyar, all accusations against Apolo Engineering are but baseless rumors.
cinder hound
Pretty sure there was some super ancient lore stream that said they were stolen, it was the first time Primal Carnage was ever "hinted" at
supple dome
Operation inferno
cinder hound
That's it.
fierce cedar
icy onyx
this is for lore theories
talking about boa is more of a #401464048610312195 or #401470471750811669 imo
light solar
Yooooo
fossil lily
Any chance I can get a summary of lore stuff that has happened over the past 4-6 months?
Not been able to be active with this game due to IRL reasons.
wraith nova
Pinned messages
opaque crane
Theres nothing more recent
The past 4-6 months have been silent lore-wise
Theyre busy with the recode
fossil lily
Whats the recode?
feral agate
@fossil lily Thats a question for #401464048610312195
fossil lily
Ah my bad
mighty abyss
Well let's put it this way
You don't want genetically altered animals running free on an exposed island
So you fuse with a larger company and sell your assets before nuking the place
Operation inferno probably took place during the transfer, you can't exactly stop an extermination
And plus "we learn from our mistakes" is a thing that happens
icy onyx
👍
high heath
Could be that they bought the company and bombed the dinosaurs to create the new ones
glass field
They nuked the island?
high heath
Inferno destroyed specimens and buildings
stiff cedar
that could kinda explain hypos cus of nuclear radiation
storm warren
I seriously doubt radiation causes hypos, everything would be ash and dust if a nuke happend
barren marlin
No I’m pretty sure the hypos are the genetically modified animals that the company wanted to get rid of, honestly dinosaurs are dangerous but on an isolated island in the middle of nowhere (from what I know) wouldn’t hurt anyone. But hypos and nuros are dangerous
They could find a way to escape and so they’d probably wanna get rid of them with nukes
calm warren
thats a little extreme
maybe a conventional weapon but i doubt theyd nuke a dinosaur
a laser guided missile would demolish any dinosaur. just get a special ops team with a laser designator and call in an airstrike
or a mac round from a UNSC carrier
icy onyx
Except you dont have UNSC carriers cause yknow Halo =/= Isle
And I just did math for a potential standart 600-ton slug fired at 600000 m/s (thats the most standart UNSC frigate slug fired from standart MAC)
the kinetic energy is 97.92 terajoules
fat man had blast yield of 88 TJ
so yea the weapon is about as strong as weaker nukes so
why not use nukes at that point instead of fictional space weapon
oak pumice
inb4 oxygen destroyer
icy onyx
I think the rebuild will be around valintimes day
opaque crane
This is for lore, not when updates are coming.
wraith nova
Seriously channel name doesn't suggest it's for lore, and not all read channel description
cinder hound
That's on the user for not reading a channel description, then.
high heath
Mind you, Hyperendocrin are designed, as far as we know.
shut remnant
bryan suggested that battleship armaments could kill hypers
shut remnant
ye but just saying you wouldn't need a nuke to kill one lol
feral agate
bet, one 500 pound bomb would fuck it up
shut remnant
ye
icy onyx
250 pounder to the face
feral agate
500 is to make sure its only goo
shut remnant
and I heard that you'd be able to find a weapon able to kill a hyper as a merc, I don't recall a dev saying it
high heath
Mind you
Battleship armaments are strong enough to punch through most buildings
And Hypers can bust through most buildings
So overkill is probably not a word when it comes to Hyperendocrin
feral agate
what kind of battleship we talking here tho? WW2 era or modern? (no real modern battleships but whatever)
feral agate
than its a cruiser or a destroyer, yeet a cruise missile on it. 500-1000 pounds of explosives, boom, dead
feral agate
unless shits kaiju level bullshit, then idk
high heath
They are Kaiju level bullshit
feral agate
we dont really know
high heath
We do
high heath
AE needed to create a specific gun to stop their aggressive healing
high heath
They are pretty much walking Kaiju too
feral agate
its like saying its skin is stronger than a meter of steel, like wot
feral agate
but a missile would, just saying
icy onyx
.50 DU
high heath
Tanks rounds will hurt it badly, we just don't know if it will be enough to kill it
Humans have really amazing regeneration, mind you. Hypers will be able to heal...all wounds, but will starve in the process
feral agate
from what it seems, they are just dinos 3-5 times (guesstimate) bigger, faster, stronger than their original form
so legit, one shot and it would die, unless it can regen its entire head before its burned to ashes
*tank shot
high heath
Definitely not. I was thinking more of a hit to the ribs
Definitely would hurt it, but it will still probably run you down and eat your tank before you load another round
feral agate
if its ingame speed is anything to go by, no, tanks go in reverse faster than it runs forward
again, its a biological reset button
its the damn neuros that scare me
high heath
I dunno, Hyper Dinosaurs are pretty fast
icy onyx
Yea tanks can go 60-80 kph
high heath
I mean, the Hyper Carno alone is probably the fastest land dinosaur
shut remnant
hypers seem to be ridiculously fast
feral agate
no, carno would catch a tank, would survive one shot tho
is just barely bigger than a normal rex
I think hyper rex is 45 km/h?
high heath
Around ish
feral agate
abrams, as an exemple, can go 40 in reverse, so it would aproach it at 5 km/h
high heath
Though, Hypers have heightened senses, according to how they hunt
So they'd hear a tank before the tank gets a visual
feral agate
thats a given, tanks arent stealthy when moving
high heath
Indeed. So they'd probably roll around for a bit, then BOOM Hyper crashes through the trees, tips the tank over and rips it apart
shut remnant
tbh I don't see why a hyper would even interact with a tank
high heath
It eats everything
shut remnant
not metal though
shut remnant
why would it go for a couple humans when it could go for a herd or some sauropods
feral agate
no tank commander would put itself in such a vulnerable situation, and heat, that thing would be like a star on the thermals
but yes, tanks, once caught would be fucked
silk glen
Or it could be a normalish animal and sees something moving and goes yeet thats probs food lemme eat it
Caught
feral agate
thx
shut remnant
that's now how normalish animals work lol
feral agate
hypers seem to be made to be always hungry, and always angry
high heath
And the dinosaurs have Human intelligence. So would you
A) Go after a sauropod and get fucked up by the tank later or
B) Destroy the tank so it poses no threat
feral agate
hangry, if you will
silk glen
Have you seen a cat @shut remnant?
shut remnant
cats are devils
opaque crane
Cats dont count as normal animals
shut remnant
ye
opaque crane
Cant use that as any sort of comparison
feral agate
hypers would probably attack everything that moves, its pissed at you, its pissed at me, its pissed at god and life itself
silk glen
And if it does think like a human wrecking a tank sounds like a good idea because evreything else is pretty much guaranteed food
feral agate
if it knows what a tank is
silk glen
I mean it probably would associate big noises with at least some form of danger, at least to be cautious, but if its just this like box thing with a gun and it doesnt see you, why not rip it apart, and even though it wouldnt taste good, the tanks already gone
feral agate
tiny
silk glen
Small box=food
feral agate
@steady edge wrong chat m8
icy onyx
I have a hunch the lore to the isle is similar to that of The Shining in that it is science combined with magic/myth. (The shining combined cabin fever with the dark magic of the Indian burial ground). My idea is the island has some kind of native ritual thing to it plus whatever experiments that were done, were done wrong thus destroying the facilities.
feral agate
i do think there might be some supernatural shit going on
near kite
i think anti air tanks with auto cannons would be unstoppable
especially with either APDS or what not
icy onyx
Bruh
Isle-theories literally guys talking about cats. BRUH
PP BIG
I advise you to be serious in this channel unless you want admins to smack you
Mb
quartz sundial
quartz sundial
take profile pic convos to #401470471750811669 pls
use this channel for lore dicussion
gaunt raptor
I hear people thinking Dino's can fight tanks
Just gonna say not even a hypo would stand a chance against a ww2 and definitely not a modern tank
If a tank is loading apcr or ap (anti tank shells basically) they are made to go through the target which modern tanks can go through feet of steel which hypos don't have and then explode in the contact area splitting into massive fragments
And a hypos bite force would be evolved enough to go through a sauropod or anky, not anything higher really and tanks are on a different scale of armor compared to them
They would probably brake their jaw or teeth trying to get through it
And considering an average main battle tank weights 50 tons, a hypo would not be able to lift it either
minor wigeon
Realism doesn't apply in the isle to a certain degree
placid harness
H-rex is like 25ish tons too.
Even if it could flip a tank over, a lot of tanks are like pretty damn fast and maneuverable.
near kite
most tanks fire control systems have cctv thermal linked to the commander sight which can force the gun to a target so it would be hard to dodge
silk glen
But arent they like ya know dinos... so like... cold blooded... so like if theyre in a cold place theyll get cold...
near kite
are they like 2 kelvin or somthing because even then if they're cold blooded if their temp is hotter then the ambience it'll show
and most sights are a mix of thermal and or lidar or somthing
idk how in depth the devs are going to it but muscle movements make heat no matter if you're warm blooded or cold blooded
icy onyx
How the hell did tanks get into topic of #isle-lore-theories ?
Theres no way they're gonna add tanks to the game cept for non working ones covered by moss n shit
icy onyx
Heck who needs tanks
Just send 1 apache
DAGR to the face
@icy onyx Maybe because we are discussing Hyper survivability and tanks are our go to example of why hypers wouldnt survive modern combat yknow
wraith nova
Also I'm pretty sure scientist concluded dinos aren't cold blooded
icy onyx
Yea I saw some articles about dinos being warm blooded idk
Actually nvm
current theory seems to indicate that they were neither
wicked stone
Anyone break the binary code that shows in the newest youtube video yet?
icy onyx
We managed to get through one
The rest is either nonsense
or noone knows how to crack it
I was doing some frequency analysis but I never finished it
~>
wicked stone
I mean, cracking it is pretty basic. Type in the binary in the translator. Just super tedious.
What was the first one?
icy onyx
Yea except it isnt as easy
The one we cracked had to be moved into hex and from there into text
wicked stone
Oof, I see. So it doesn't go directly into text. Gotcha.
What was found out so far with what was able to be cracked?
wicked stone
Thank you. Interesting.
icy onyx
Hello, I wanted to know when they announced the release of the big update
upper skiff
Around February
icy onyx
2020?
icy onyx
Ok thank you 😀
opaque crane
This is not the channel for this discussion
This is for lore, not when updates are coming
high heath
@silk glen Dinosaurs are warm blooded. Mesothermic, which means they were warm blooded, but not as well as mammals
high heath
Right...they were warm blooded. Just not as well as mammals. In the middle or above it
high heath
Besides, something that large will give off a heat signature, but I assume they wouldn't attack something in the open
They would likely hide behind something and wait for it to get near. Next thing you know, a Hyper T.rex ripped half of your tank apart
sleek temple
how does it rip something much heavier and with such armour apart?
sure mabye one of the tiny tanks
high heath
T.rex has jaws strong enough to crush a normal car. Imagine what a Hyperendocrins bite force will be like
calm warren
considering an abrams would blow a gaping hole in a hypos chest from over a mile away i dont think we need to worry about what its bite would do to the tank
high heath
Assuming said Abrams spots the Hyper
icy onyx
Termal camera
drone support
It isnt that hard to give your gunner a small man portable drone
with thermal camera
and tell him to fly it to spot the target
high heath
In an island full of giant sauropods, carnivores of all kinds, mutant monsters can fuck with tech and the enviornment, and trees that make sauropods look small
Oh. That reminds me
Neuro can mess with tech and control the weather
You...didn't know that?
calm warren
we were talking hypos
also this is assuming they even used tanks. why not just call in some A-10s and light their asses up with 30mm avenger cannons
calm warren
why not dude. fuck em up
dumb bombs also eliminate the threat of neuro messing with them
high heath
Why would AE call a damn air strike on their own assets
And...we have no idea how far a Neuros powers can reach.
Maybe the tank won't even start. Next thing you know, Hyper Spino slams its arms into a building, killing people left and right
calm warren
why call in air strike? cus hypo spino is mass killing ppl. seems like a good reason to me
high heath
Right. An air strike...on an animal that you designed...doing its job.
Assuming the plane or drone will fly anywhere near with a Neuro
calm warren
i dont AE would have access or authority over military equipment like thay
high heath
They do.
Or...did.
They had tanks on old bases, so I assume they had a military contract
But they do hire Mercs with military training (or...at least some fire arms training)
calm warren
also im a bit behind on the lore bit cus i dont really care, i just heard about weapons and got excited. did AE build hypos specifically for killing ppl. i thought they were a failed experiment?
high heath
As far as we know, Hyperendocrin are Kaiju levels of bullshit with a Wolverine healing factor
calm warren
yeah but not modern day aircraft
i dont think hypos are kaiju level. they arent that big
high heath
They are big enough to kill a full grown Pue and make a T.rex run away.
They can bust through buildings and have an incredible healing factor
Trust me, they are low level Kaiju
calm warren
hypo rex vs godzilla. ur telling me godzilla would blink twice?
high heath
One Godzilla is 150 feet, another is over 300 meters. Trust me, using Godzilla as a basis is a bad idea
calm warren
according to google baragon is smallest kaiju at 250 tons. hypo rex is 20 tons
and 25 meters tall. where hypo rex is 8 meters
hypo rex is just an oversized rexy boi with anger issues.
deft saffron
Kaiju is a relative term, it means multiple things, but in the standard English definition it means “Giant Monster” we don’t have any perimeters for something being defined as a kaiju
Baragon weighs over 10x more than a hypo in his smallest form
calm warren
hypo rex is just a dinosaur at the end of the day. it cant compete with monsters
calm warren
its not a kaiju level monster. a cat is a monster to a bird
deft saffron
I’m not calling it a kaiju
I’m saying we don’t have an perimeters
But by Godzilla definition for the main frame of kaiju monsters
It is too small
calm warren
yes
deft saffron
They don’t call the giant animals on Skull Island kaiju
calm warren
i think hypo rex would give king kong a run for his money
deft saffron
Depends which Kong
calm warren
the generic movie version where he beats up normal rexes
sleek temple
tank destroys hyper end of storey
calm warren
^