So we should probably expect a lot of previous depictions of things to reflect this new theme.
#isle-lore-theories
halcyon stirrup
Namely the strain plants.
Oh, and probably tribal structures if they ever reappear on the new map.
woeful chasm
Dondi mentioned about starting to place human areas on the map in his stream I think
halcyon stirrup
Yes, I mentioned this. Given that they probably won't be as incomplete as the V3 equivalents, I have high hopes of finding strain related specimens there.
Likely the plant strains that have been on the shelf for far too long.
If there's going to be any lore related additions to this new map, they're more than likely going to be found around these new human areas Dondi's eagerly waiting to add to the new map.
Rather if there's going to be any lore related content in the recode as a whole
These are going to be the places we find them. Possibly alongside some new loading screens, death screens, maybe even some new static effects if they remain in these new human areas.
woeful chasm
Unless it’s changed dinosauriac said there wouldn’t really be any lore stuff till after
idle zinc
I don't think the static screens will stay. Those have been confirmed to mean that that location is still in development, thats why port had static but not anymore
halcyon stirrup
Well, unless they plan on simply copy pasting the human areas from V3 I doubt there will be nothing new to learn
Right, I have high hopes the new map won't have any of that static
twin vale
- plans on copy-pasting areas from v3 *
halcyon stirrup
LMAO
gentle sluice
N O P O R T
grizzled badge
#makeradiotowergreatagain
halcyon stirrup
ngl, this made me laugh pretty hard
icy onyx
has anybody considered that the tapwing teaser had a pit, instead of a footprint?
when i first saw it i saw a pit, not a footprint
halcyon stirrup
Nah, it's pretty obviously intended to be a footprint
I guess there's a faint possibility, but I heavily doubt it
icy onyx
A invisible camera following you
the camera monitors your growth, hunger,thirst, weight, etc
and the reason i believe this theory is because notice how when you die it says deceased and the line goes flat and then you choose another dino to watch over
im a bit tired so my wording is a bit bad and the way i explain things
halcyon stirrup
Ok, so here's the thing. We already know the dinos have implants in them that track their information. To me even though upon death there's a bit of evidence to support your theory, I still find it unlikely. When theory crafting we do have to keep in mind not everything we experience in the game represents something relevant to the lore or how things work. In this case it feels like an invisible camera following us feels a bit far fetched. Not only is a lot of the surveillance technology around the map not advanced enough to suggest this, but as previously stated it's probably just a game feature. I really don't think that there's a camera constantly following our dinos with infinite battery that can last years, and never get damaged.
icy onyx
you never know, they can clone dinosaurs, and mutate them, i am sure they have flying camera with infinite power, maybe battery that is charged with the sun, so saying that its to faar in tech is not right, no offence of course
I mean, they already have a set up surveilance according to menu
Where you can see multiple cam feeds
But it seems to be regular cams
yes you have a point
maybe a rival faction spying
Phoenix already seems to be knocked out completely
icy onyx
I've cooked up a theory about how players can become different strains when they're fully implemented into the game. You know how in Anthomnias latest video he talked about the dangerous trees. What if there was a type of tree that spawns very rarely at random locations, where, if you go up to it, it will turn you into a strain of your species.
sleek temple
id rather strains be randomized
final perch
imagine they make strains that easy to get and ruin the game for almost every player since they can get strains that easily
sleek temple
its obvious they are injecting something into them but that would be broke gameplay wise
icy onyx
I mean if the theorised tree would spawn super rarely it wouldn't be too broke, especially if you had to fulfil certain criteria maybe something to do with the affinity system.
Anyway, we may actually be too much #401464048610312195 here
This isnt exactly lore
halcyon stirrup
The thing about arguing that AE's technology is super advanced and all, is there isn't a lot of supporting evidence to suggest their scientists are very advanced at anything but bioengineering. Not only do they fail to contain their strains likely because of this, but the majority of the technology on maps are pretty standard. You'd expect to see something a little more advanced on an island filled with man eating monsters.
On the topic or aquiring strains, I now suspect there's going to be a coupe hoops you have to jump through. The first of which requiring you to eat an infected herbivore. I believe this because I'm almost certain herbivores will be able to eat certain strain infected plants and infect themselves to a lesser extent, probably receiving some serious benefits without the crippling drawback of being always hungry like hypers. A carnivore capable of consuming the flesh of an infected herbivore would probably receive the infection themselves, and would slowly be making their way to evolving into whatever strain the herbivore was infected with.
icy onyx
i like the idea of strain and virus and infections, its really interesting,
sleek temple
i mean wouldnt that be abuseable gameplay wise?
sleek temple
i meant
u could just get a herbi up and wait till ur infected and let a carnivore kill u
burnt owl
thing is, its been emphasized that strains aren’t a dino that you raise, let alone grow into. you will never get a hyper carno from “growing” beyond regular carno. it is a creature that is lab-grown, possibly released or escaped, and not the same as any playable dino you start off with at a juvenile stage.
hypers and other strains are unlocked thru unknown means, and are likely gonna be something you acquire, not grow.
iirc they rescinded that one offhand statement dondi made one time in a vid with anthomnia, he mispoke saying growing, and has since insisted that they aren’t the dinos you raise.
sleek temple
what i mean is
if u do get infected
u can basically just give away a free strain to ur freind who is a carnivore on the server
icy onyx
somebody get game theory in here
burnt owl
that’s what im saying tho, ingesting things won’t be it, as that implies a dino eating something will then grow into a strain, which they won’t, cuz there is no evolving into one directly from ur playable dino. a carno who eats an infected gallimimus will not become a hyper carno. at most i can see you earning invisible points towards unlocking a hyper based off of unknown quest goals.
i feel pretty strongly that strains will be accessible thru playing all factions and will require layers of interaction between those factions to acquire one.
otherwise what’d be the point be if all you had to do was repeatedly spam dino lives? too straightforward. convolution and complexity seems key to keepin it a rare and mysterious reward.
sleek temple
if so
i dont see anyone becoming a hyper ever if its that complex
why did i say hyper
i mean strain jaja
burnt owl
i mean that’s sorta the point lol, rare server wiping horror kaiju
icy onyx
Also lore wise, after every death your consciounsness gets transfered to a new body. Maybe if the system/AE board or anyone who controls replications deems you worthy, theyll get you into strain
sleek temple
i want a goal system tbh as id like to show something
burnt owl
you will just be playing the game, trying out mercs, tribals, herbivore and carnivore dinos, until one day it just. clicks. or maybe it never does, and you won’t know why.
icy onyx
A new option appears
burnt owl
i don’t want it to ever be something folks can make a guide for.
unless it winds up being so reliant on interactivity with so many factions and players and resources that even with a guide it is incredibly hard to do.
sleek temple
REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE. PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE
this is Phase 4
what do ya think it means to Force Evolution
icy onyx
Wait when was phase 4 announced?
sleek temple
well Phase 1 was Magnatyrannus
icy onyx
It seems like plan for after recode ecosystem
icy onyx
Hypo rex
sleek temple
the Hyper rex and the Primal Carnage Spino
then Phase 3 was the Hyper Quetz
and Phase 4 was what i copy pasted
icy onyx
Huh
icy onyx
It seems like phase 4 is different from previous
I kinda lean towards the change of ecosystem after recode drops
sleek temple
i feel like it has sometin to do with getting maxed affinity
toxic siren
ima talk about the canibail here
waxen oar
Alright
toxic siren
i think the queen canibail is the orginail canibail and made the other canibails useing her neruotonic powers and mabey is related to the neruo spino
i think shes a human dino hybird or something that went wrong .
waxen oar
Wow that’s pretty deep lore
icy onyx
There were 3 different strained humanoids
Collosus (type h), Reaper (tisso) and Echidna (neuro)
waxen oar
For the affinity system I think that it would lose control if was around humanoids other than itself for too long and lash out
toxic siren
and the type h colossses was made to combat the neruro or neruo was made to combat it brains over brawns and i think the type h coloses mabey made the type h plants or was made by going to close to a type h plant if it made the type h plant it put them in areas with no herbi thats why theres no herbi strains and also thats why the apexs besides utah and carno have a type h and utah and carno probly have it cus there fast .
waxen oar
However the longer it stalks you the angrier it gets
toxic siren
yea and that would explain why it lives in caves cus the canibail queen probly dosnt like lashing out .
toxic siren
i think the canibails are week to light thats why they also live in caves and come out of them at night .
waxen oar
@toxic siren what if the queen was killed?
toxic siren
isle might be a dream or something im not sure .
toxic siren
if the queen was killed probly the second oldest would become the queen
toxic siren
the second oldest being the one that was the frist kid of the queen
waxen oar
So the first nested in?
toxic siren
yea
waxen oar
Or given some kind of substance only the queen can produce
toxic siren
bees eat royal jelly
waxen oar
Yup
toxic siren
i image canibails caves are like bee hives .
waxen oar
What if depending on what strain the queen is the drones will be different
toxic siren
the drones would all get kicked out
sences beeses kick out the drones
and only the females help the give
hive
by geting food and stuff
waxen oar
Everyone who gets nested will look similar to the the queen and it depends on what the queen will look like
toxic siren
like bees
toxic siren
i think the magna strain is natures way to fend for its self agasint the strains
i feel like the queen would breed like snails
and the males would be relly rare
waxen oar
Interesting
toxic siren
most sails are asexual but some are asexual but there babys look diffrent and can rarely be diffrent genders
snails
not sails
toxic siren
im not sure
shut remnant
it doesn't?
toxic siren
the queen is also called the Neurotenic Mastermind
shut remnant
are you talking about echidna?
toxic siren
she has 2 arms and 2 legs
waxen oar
Or how about neurotonic broodmother
toxic siren
she has some tentcely tumer vain things on her
also
whats the neurotonic broodmoter
waxen oar
An alternative name for the queen
waxen oar
Echidna sounds better actually
toxic siren
or mother of canibails .
waxen oar
So would she kick out all males?
waxen oar
Cool
waxen oar
Lol
sleek temple
what do ya think i put quotations for
sleek temple
what?
toxic siren
look at there feet
waxen oar
Lol this escalated quickly
toxic siren
this is what she looks like .
icy onyx
Oh
toxic siren
she is the most alien looking thing comeing to the isle
icy onyx
I take that back
toxic siren
thats there mom
icy onyx
😫
waxen oar
That’s one hot queen 🥵
toxic siren
thats why i think there aliens or therpod dino /brid human hybird .
cus thats the canibails mom
twin vale
just remember all of the stuff that's out there regarding these things is ancient.
waxen oar
Ok
sleek temple
does that mean they are possible going to be retconned to be something else?
possibly*
toxic siren
mabey
when will the lore of the isle come out
we will find out when the lore of the game comes out
icy onyx
Lore of the isle itself wont 'come out'
toxic siren
im gussing the lore comes out when the games out of early acesss .
icy onyx
We actually need to clue all pieces together
Go into pinned docs
The page and document have what we know so far at least
toxic siren
glad you guys liked my theroys .
neon hamlet
halcyon stirrup
This is exactly as I suspected. Lots of likely correct theories and old lore related assets are likely being adapted to what's currently being developed. It's likely that a lot of what we've seen will aesthetically look entirely different. Though I doubt a lot of the ideas are scrapped. I do imagine a lot of them have significantly changed.
icy onyx
theory: the 'cannibal' is not actually called the 'cannibal' lmao. don comfirmed this in a stream that the cannibals were not actually quote-on-quote 'cannibals'
this image on the website it called "the creator" i found this really weird. unless people have already found this
if not it may not even mean anything whatsoever
but the man and the hyperendocrine may be representing the bond he has to his creation. or the transition of conciousness from human to dinosaur (if thats comfirmed, it could be bs)
deft eagle
or it could be showing him about to be eaten
icy onyx
lmao, yes
i think the way its showed makes it feel more like its not. his hand is on its jaw. but idfk
distant ocean
Fucking mixpackers.
wooden rune
I bet that the "Cannibal" "Bird Human" are some kinda failed genetic experiments
icy onyx
carebearing humans
vagrant dirge
Type-H arent the only things we need to worry about
he trees are after us lmao
my question is why?!!
past trench
Why not?
vagrant dirge
...very fair
but still ripping parts off dinosaurs that didnt even know? melting dinosaurs? or strait up killing them! again doesnt make much sense.
halcyon stirrup
Melting can occur via chemical means
What part of it doesn't make sense exactly?
And who knows what these plants will do if possibly injested.
That may very well be the means that they potentially kill you.
icy onyx
@icy onyx Well, tribals are now called cannibals and what once was known as cannibal has a new unknown name
vagrant dirge
interesting.
i would like to jump ot this for a second, Subject AE-BLS-037
The allosaurus specimen with the cranial abnormalities, in the that we discovered -ALL ISLAND VISITORS MUST WEAR ID TAGS AT ALL G... TRACKING ERROR, PLEASE ALERT AE SYSADMIN. CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037, RE-SEQUENCING... WELCOME TO THE ISLE.SYSTEM READY. WELCOME TO THE ISLE.WE SUCCEED WHERE NATURE FAILS.DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END- LOCKDOWN PROTOCOL IN EFFECT. CHECKING ALL SYSTEMS. could this mean they may have been making a strain allo of sorts, or some TYPE-H,N,M, creature?
it just keeps returning back to me that maybe this allosaur was the creature that broke out and let the island go to hell? and not the TYPE-H as we may have thought?
icy onyx
Maybe wasnt strained. Throught all of this, there are randomly scattered: cranial abnormality detected in A. Fragilis which is your good ol' Al
echo gazelle
I believe the cranial abnormality was referring to the Allosaurus getting a remodel, same with now there's light morse codes in the server search menu that reveal the 4 creatures coming into Survival. Which were first Pachy and Sucho and then Spino and Stego.
icy onyx
True
slow delta
yea
icy spoke
Sweet
tiny carbon
@icy onyx in case you missed it Tapwing did their own version of that image (anyone viewing on mobile, "The New Creator" is not the name of the piece, it's just what I named the file to keep tabs on it):
grim snow
This looks like the dude is gonna die, that other one looks like the hyper is chained up and he looking at it
ivory acorn
Yeah, in the other one the guy seems to be touching it too
random stump
it doesn’t look like he’s gonna die imo, if the image were supposed to portray that effect it wouldn’t have him looking so casual, just kinda gazing at the rex
To me it looks more like the hyper is more curious about him/reluctant to kill the man for some reason or another. It suggests there’s importance to him, even to a mindless animal
icy onyx
cough cough human consciousness cough cough
These arent mindless animals
Explains all the mass killings
crude quartz
seems to me like the man is staring at his "creation" lost in his own world of why and how he made it as the very thing he made stares at him like he's just simply dinner
also did no one else see the glass separating them?
and also both pictures are ever so slightly different
biggest difference is the guy's right arm's position
limber jacinth
i just though of an intersting way you could get strains
what if you had to go to a plant that had the strain, and let it get you, its like spinning a wheel, theres a chance you get some sort of negative effect, you die, or you become the corresponding strain dino
but unless your a full adult, the plant will kill you
hypo plants could give you a hypo version of your dino, same with neuro and tisso (if its still a thing)
shut remnant
rng is pretty much never fun
also iirc it was said that you won't actually know how to become a hyper untill you become one, so a big fuck-off tree probably wouldn't be subtle lmao
limber jacinth
yeah, but still would be interesting
maybe becoming a certain strain would make you not a target for THE PLANTS of the same strain anymore
crude quartz
pretty sure dondi said that the plants would do horrible things to you. Making you bigger and stronger doesn't seem that horrible although it would be creative. My suggestion? Stay away from the plants that ate the chainsaw, blowtorch, and Anthomnia the youtuber.
Though there is a possiblity something cool would happen... I just suggest caution.
junior ocean
So the moral is Watch which tree you piss on.
toxic siren
well neruo and magna woudnt be a target and i dont think neruo will have plants cus neruos are man made or canibail made or something like that . and magnas are natures defences agasint the other strains . mabey tisso could have a plant tho sences we dont relly know alot about tissos .
woeful chasm
You’re assuming strains (manmade or not) can’t jump species or that humans didn’t intentionally test them on plants
idle zinc
as far as I know all the strains are manmade
junior ocean
Well they have too be .
woeful chasm
Not magna necessarily
Remember the replicator can force evolution and collect the data faster then naturally possible
toxic siren
oh yea true .
i feel like the neruo strain is linked with the canibails
well the queen of the canibails is a neruo strain .
woeful chasm
It’s entirely possible magna came about due to the replicator seeing the “anomaly” of strains that the humans made (assuming the replicator is AI and not human)
woeful chasm
However that depends on if Magna is nature’s counterbalance or if it is the “Perfected” Hyper strain after humans figured their stuff out
toxic siren
eather one
idle zinc
Isn't the replicator AE and the Magnas originally came from Phoenix, or am I totally confusing things since it's been a while since I looked at the lore
woeful chasm
AE stole tech and all from Phoenix
Don’t know if the replicator was Phoenix tech or AE
shut remnant
magna is from pheonix ye
woeful chasm
Just know that “tribals” worship it as a god
toxic siren
i feel like the neruo strain was thought up by the canibails so they could talk to more speices pycicly mabey if your a canibail and your leader dies wich would be the queen you would eat like a royal jelly and become the new queen .
woeful chasm
👀... huh?
icy onyx
don't question his flawless theory
toxic siren
tribails are the canibails or there not somethings say they are somethigns say they are not i think also neruostrain is dark in coler so they can hide in the dark unlike the canibails who are relly light and the canibails i feel like are weak to light .
woeful chasm
If you mean the ugly humans then tribals/cannibals are the same
toxic siren
devs arent relly focasing on strains and the canibails relly
woeful chasm
If you mean the faceless bois then those are different
toxic siren
yep
idle zinc
I was gunna say I don't think some bow shooting humans could think up a creature that can change the weather with electromagnetic stuff
shut remnant
magic trevor do you not call faceless boys cannibals?
I do, because it's a given name that hasn't be invalidated by anything new yet
trim comet
Tribals did not think up cannibals... wow
toxic siren
there will be a thing that canibails can do like make hives wich would be there version of nests . if the queen died i feel like she would drop something that gave you her powers but eather the second most grown canibails aka the oldest one that is alive would get her powers or the canibails would like try to be the frist one to get the thingy the queen drops when she dies .
shut remnant
um, how do you know this
toxic siren
um its theroys
toxic siren
so it could not be true .
trim comet
Frogboyaidan and the hivemind tribals theory
Hmm... maybe sub-group of tribals will be able to do that?
That would be cool
toxic siren
i feel like canibails are aliens or hybird human therapod dinos that failed .
toxic siren
yea could be dino human hybirds .
trim comet
But we're pretty sure that aliens have nothing to do with the lore
woeful chasm
I think in Echidna’s case, she is sooooo unique that her spawn can’t be the at the same level. Nor the effects on her from the strain 100% transferable via DNA as most of it changed her cells directly vs rewriting the dna
idle zinc
That reminds me of ARK: Survival Evolved. A lot of people thought it was aliens for a long time, but it turned out they had nothing to do with it
toxic siren
aliens did well eloved humans .
for ark lore
besides the point
isle and ark are diffrent .
woeful chasm
Aaaaaaaand we also don’t know for sure if “tribals” are Echidna’s children or the faceless ones are
toxic siren
yea thats what i think
idle zinc
or maybe just refer to them as "faceless ones"?
woeful chasm
We are assuming the cannibals are her children but it could be a twist that they are not
toxic siren
i think there her children or her siblings or something .
shut remnant
what reason is there for cannibals being her children aside from resemblance?
woeful chasm
Well some people use tribals/cannibals and others tribals
icy onyx
Do you guys remember the tweets from olympus transmitter about the worship of Echidna?
toxic siren
i feel like mother of canibail has a speical substences as blood that if someone eats they can get her powers .
trim comet
I think that "tribals" is like a whole category, similar to how "herbivores" is all herbivorous animals
woeful chasm
She is the Mother if Cannibals
trim comet
So tribals have different classes
Like cannibals is one
The mean ogre looking man is another
woeful chasm
Then learned that cannibals/tribals are the same thing
toxic siren
i feel like cannibals are the cave tribals .
trim comet
Cannibals are echolocate boys
icy onyx
you might but onto something...
shut remnant
ok right
toxic siren
mabey tribails will look diffrent in diffrent biomes .
and many they will have uniq stucters
trim comet
HES ONTO SOMETHING GUYS
woeful chasm
Which to me says the orc looking ones are the children
trim comet
I CAN FEEL IT
shut remnant
what if cannibals were tribals which were locked in a cave for centuries, and the replicator turned them into eyless echolocation boys
toxic siren
mabey you could choose like what tribe of tribails you whant to be .
in the selction screen .
like mabey there will be 1 tribe for each biome / area and they will all be like adapted to diffrent areas and have diffrent stuctes and wepons and vechiles .
trim comet
Cannibals are like the cave tribal, there could be a severely hairy snow/tundra tribal, there could be a tribal thats more slim and agile and has arms and legs that help it climb trees so it could live in tropical biomes, etc
woeful chasm
But see Dondi said they are the same though and faceless are not related except that through playing tribals would you learn about them and maybe eventually play them
trim comet
Mmm yeah
shut remnant
tribals don't have vehicles lol
toxic siren
i feel like there will be tribails who live at sea and have like relly good rafts better then say like a desert tribails raft .
shut remnant
unless you want to count rexy as one
toxic siren
vehicles are like rafts .
woeful chasm
Meh they don’t look smart enough to make rafts if their god lives on the island with them
toxic siren
mabey only the tropicail tribe could make rafts .
icy onyx
i want a tropical tribe now
shut remnant
tropical tribal need to drink less because there's more water in atmosphere
toxic siren
a volcano tribe would be cool .
woeful chasm
I highly doubt the island allowed multiple sub races of tribal to evolve
Nor the human testing that probably created them making different ones
toxic siren
i feel like the cave tribail would be one . the water /tropicail tribeal . the desert / mesa tribe and the redwood tribe /snowy/forest/plains tribe . i hope theres diffrent crafting mabey like you could craft diffrent colothing depending on where you are
i feel like at least two tribes you could select the cave ones wich i feel like would be way smarter then the outside tribes but the outside tribes would think that the canibails are dumber i feel like if you like stay in a area for a long time you could learn diffrent things and the diffrent reocsres in diffrent biomes could help you diffrchate you from the other tribeals and so if you live in the desert it would be easyer for you to get adobe huts .
icy onyx
That’s a cool theory
sleek temple
i mean
the reaper which is old
dwelled in caves
so a cave tribe that would only venture out at night would be nice
toxic siren
the cave tribe would be the canibails .
sleek temple
the faceless ones?
toxic siren
yea
sleek temple
idk if they would pack up
shut remnant
ye tbh, would they pack?
toxic siren
i know
thats why the faceless ones have echidna and can make dinos cus there hunted by the tissos
without her
sleek temple
tissos hunting our faceless bois that are meant to be the thing we fear the most in the isle
that would be nice actually
toxic siren
mabey the colosses could be a moutin tribe
sleek temple
colossus is very big
toxic siren
tho that would be to op
sleek temple
idk if u can consider it a tribe
toxic siren
i feel like the colossus is the father of canibails
or the colosuesss is a human deinosuchus hybird wich also could stillbe the father of canibails cus i feel like the canibails are therapod/bird human hybirds .
shut remnant
neither look like hybrids...
sleek temple
only hybrid is novaraptor
toxic siren
nova rapters in a primeal carange lol
novaraptor
well dondi did work for primealcarnage
i feel like each strain human thingy is like a godly being .
i feel like the hypoercolloses cus it is probly slow and i think like if i rember reaper is relly fast i feel like sences the canibails as in the faceless things if they have ecidna then there safe from the other creatuers of the isle including the reapers and stuff so insted the reaper would go after the hypo colloseses .
neat leaf
It will take another 10 years to complete the distance re-coding.
crude quartz
well I've waited 10 years for a game before
honestly as long as it comes out eventually, I'm fine with whenever it comes out
neat leaf
Really, it looks like your son has grown up.
safe juniper
elemental dinos
icy onyx
Clones
icy onyx
like jurassic park?
stable sapphire
If only they could be brought from the past like Dino Crisis (excluding awful 3rd)
wooden lily
The dinos are genetically cloned in the same way JP does
However, there's a rumor that the dinosaurs have the brains and memories of dead humans
Which makes the game rather eerie
Ok, maybe not brains, but at least memory
shut remnant
isn't it confirmed that the dinos have human minds?
like I recall affinity being described as the need of the dinosaur bleeding through your control
kind sandal
Maybe the trees will create the hypos?
tiny carbon
We have console interaction confirmation that there are EIP's (Embryo Intelligence Profiles) being inserted into each dinosaur, and that one EIP exists for every 1 player of the Isle, but we do not know exactly what EIP's are. So it is not confirmed that dinos have human minds, though it is confirmed that there are profiles being put into each dino.
shut remnant
ah
vast dome
Listen
If we go to the electric place and power the observatory
Then we can go to the observatory and go to a computer
We can scroll on the computer and read
We read and find out that this place has test subjects
We find that a Test Subject A escaped
Test Subject A is probably the beast/demon
Probably killed everyone in the lab
Leaving only a defense from the lab itself
Since the beast/demon was tested on, they want to kill everyone
If we also read more, we find out a new group of test subjects are coming
Those test subjects are us. The players.
Anymore questions about dinosaurs?
shut remnant
what?
static stream
Where ?
pallid tiger
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limber jacinth
i have a question, are the strain representative creatures (colossus, echidna and reaper ) cut from the game ?, Dondi told me he didn't like the spikes on the reaper's arms but I'm not sure for the 2 others
trim comet
Uhh
I don't think they're cut from the game
But tissoplastic might be getting reworked? I've heard something about that. Don't know to much
limber jacinth
i heard that tisso is getting a rework too but im not sure if the colossus and echidna are cut, Reaper might be or just getting reworked along with his strain
final perch
dont think we know if they're still in the lore
the colossus at least has a part of a model done
limber jacinth
the reaper had his unfinished model too
but at least he also had a model
unlike a certain ECHIDNA
digital vale
Reaper is going to be reworked, Colossus probably stays same and Echidna seems to me the most connected to the current lore (aka the only lore we know) from all those three, so she probably stays same too. Also, who knows, maybe Echidna already has model, for example Colossus had unfinished model too.
icy onyx
@jade sparrow Do we know if the mutated strain is still in the server, or is it just speculation?
jade sparrow
Hard to say, me and smoothie found it yesterday, but we dont know yet
icy onyx
Ill see discover more on the internet
sleek temple
what are u guys on about?
icy onyx
Something big
sleek temple
wanna show me it?
neat leaf
@icy onyx hi
woeful chasm
I believe reaper is no longer a thing
icy onyx
Thats classified
sleek temple
yaikes
neat leaf
More and more people are leaving the game.
sleek temple
its isle theories 😠
woeful chasm
This is not the channel to talk about it, take it to #401464048610312195 or #401470471750811669
gilded onyx
I have to wonder why AE was making dinosaurs to begin with. 👀
sleek temple
idk why they choose dinosaurs
but from what i can tell their goal was to do what nature couldnt do
icy onyx
Also because they are friggin dinosaurs
You can do quite a lot of things with them
like a theme park that definetelly wont fail
sleek temple
jaja
ik
ive been thinking of how ya become a strain
You are being controlled.
Inevitability.
I cannot choose favorites.
Replication in progress.
Probability.
these words def catch my eye
the first sentence
makes me think of affinity
since affinity does influence what we do
the second sentence makes me also think of affinity as its Inevitable that we must follow the profiles
the third in my opinion is the Replicator saying they wont choose favorites
which might be it only chooses people who have higher affinity
or maxed i guess
the fourth line may be to do with replicating how each strain was made and giving a choice to the profile that has been choosen
the last one for me is either to do with the chance of being choosen to become a strain
or (if it is random and you dont get to choose which strain u wanan be) the chance of the replicator choosing 1 of the 4 strains for u
SECTOR AT-C
WARNING:
CONTINGENCY PROTOCOL OFFLINE
what intrests me the most
is the fact its called "sector AT-C" and not just Atrium C
considering that Atrium B had the aquatic area in Sector 4 (Pod 4)
SECTOR AT-C
-SEARCH QUERY-
AE SYSTEM DIRECTORY
SITE I-04 / AE ---
SYSCHECK
G/S ERROR
SELECT-
RNA V1.4
COMPATIBLE
IDENT
TRX 8443
REQ. VAL: N/A
now the TRX aka t rex
has 8443 as its number
icy onyx
Huh what is contingency protocol?
sleek temple
443 was the magnatyrannus from primal carnage
icy onyx
Contingency is a future event or circumstance which is possible but cannot be predicted with certainty.
sleek temple
Contingency protocol is the zappy zap
gilded onyx
Someone better be buying them dinosaurs. kek
Who's funding AE 👀 I want the lore details
sleek temple
ill show ya what the protocol is
this is the CP
it actually does something ingame
im assuming this failed
well not failed
it was offline
thats what it looks like during big bright flashy
zaps them hypers to oblivion
icy onyx
That PC:E?
sleek temple
ja
icy onyx
I just want to know whats on the other side of the door
sleek temple
apparently its B - 443 chamber
icy onyx
Huh interesting
sleek temple
back to the affinity and being controlled
i wonder what happens when u dont follow affinity and like survive through it all
thats gonna be hard being severely nerfed
but not doing what the replicator wants ya to do is something i see people doing on accident and only on purpose if it leads to something
as hooman conciousnesses are inside the dinos
and u dont want to eat that merc thats over there but ya wanna make freinds with them because they are a human
icy onyx
huh, the cams on I-04 are odly exposed
sleek temple
1 shows thenyaw and the other shows region 2
icy onyx
one of them was squished by a sauropod
at the same time some are aerial drones it seems
icy onyx
maybe mercs will have to place them
icy onyx
/control drones
icy onyx
imagine if the menu cam feed was then from official servers
split aspen
i don't really have a theory, but, these are some strange rocks, not sure if anyone talked about it but yeah
i wanna know more 
icy onyx
Thats some serious AVP shit
icy onyx
From wich map is it from tough?
split aspen
thenyaw
icy onyx
Well if it's on Thenyaw i don't think it really matters then, since Hope is supposed to be the main map
icy onyx
@split aspen do you have coords on the place?
split aspen
First two pictures is at the canyon,
However my friend signed the spots where we found these rocks on the map
split aspen
Yeah underneath the rock formation
edgy pike
I think it’s been discussed before it’s just the rocks they used for that area
icy onyx
edgy pike
Thenyaw is in a weird place for lore as far as we know
edgy pike
I think it was Jiggy who made Thenyaw perhaps you could ask
split aspen
Not sure they would answer pff
I don't have much luck with these kind of things
I'm sure there's something more about it tho
woeful chasm
How does thenyaw even fit in lore right now?
sleek temple
well
the only fit it has
is on the cam feeds on menu
some of the videos show places of thenyaw
and it has the site name of I-04
woeful chasm
Is that thenyaw? I was under the impression that I-04 was hope
sleek temple
i mean
region 2 is also shown in the little menu screens
and it says I - 04 on them ones aswell
but then if u go to the youtube channel of the isle
it says that "subjects of I - 04 recordings"
which are just youtube videos that people record
and some of them videos have V3 on them
median heath
Hi I’m new. I was wondering if the location of the isle was ever discussed and what some theoretical location where?
icy onyx
it was kinda
gimme a sec
oh yea, we came to a estimated 30-40° northern latitude, but with abnormalities that do no fit for this area
Mainly the auroras
median heath
Well some of the new maps show volcanic activity. Which could keep the island warmer in higher latitudes. also if that brings up a problem with the plants found on the isle that could easy be explained by the redwood as Dondi said that was an experiment. ( assuming he meant lore wise and not game development). Meaning that the plants where probably also engineered like the dinosaurs.
The island could be like Yellowstone in a way.
woeful chasm
The redwoods beings a success was about game dev as that meant they could have the giant monster trees we’ve seen in concepts
median heath
That’s what I thought he meant. Damn forget my theory then
twin vale
the stranger rock formations are volcanic rocks, usually used in areas such as the lava cave or where there's a spring coming from deep in the ground.
icy onyx
welp, got that one right
cinder hound
Just a little guess I'd like to throw out, judging from the human playables panel shown off in the recent Fozor dev Stream. Generation 1 is referring to the Tribals, and Generation 2 is referring to the Mercenaries.
And by that logic, would the Cannibals be considered Generation 3/above since they could possibly be mutated/hyper-evolved humans of some kind?
feral pond
I am curious if those are currently placeholder names
regal locust
Did Foz actually say Gen 1 = Tribals and Gen 2 = Mercs?
feral pond
I do not believe so, not that I've seen anyway
regal locust
Mk.
'Cause the gen one thing for tribals seems to go against the transmissions mentioning (what seems to be implied as the tribals) that through generation to generation they became the way we see them.
Exactly.
Thank you. I'm just an idiot, I forgot about that second tweet.
severe lark
Easy, Tribals are the first generation, as they still hold some form of civilization
woven nimbus
Could generations refer to evolution? Like Cannibals being the first generation as they're the most primitave animalistic of the humanoids type of thing
severe lark
Eventually Stannibals popped out of them, which adopted and amplified their violent and most primitive traits
woven nimbus
xd
feral pond
I suggest this topic be moved to elsewhere, please make sure to abide by the channel descriptions. Going to clean up the chatter.
tiny carbon
I uh, I don't think you guys realize that isn't the other side of the door mentioned in the tweet
at least, I don't believe it is. We've been shown that side of the door several times, but we've never seen what's on the outside of it
woeful chasm
Yes it is
echo gazelle
I know what you mean, I just posted it in here, thought it'd be cool to see a 3D version rather than just the door. Plus a lot of people were still skeptical about it being the actual PC door so I thought posting it here would help.
Also my Clip was deleted
Even on twitch
woeful chasm
The door was the outside looking at it, now we’ve seen inside and turning around
tiny carbon
But, we've only ever seen the inside of that door. We've never seen the outside of it.
I'll type up my paragraph of explanation and theory in a sec
echo gazelle
In the Genesis Trailer, the PC Rex was inside and escaped, so the tweet was saying we never really escaped
tiny carbon
Well, exactly, so we don't know what's on the other side of the door
still
I'll explain hol on
echo gazelle
Mhm, I posted it in here for people to get a 3 dimensional look inside, since the Genesis trailer is fairly old, that was more of a newer look
It doesn't matter anyway I think Don deleted my clip on Twitch
icy onyx
there are other clips of it
tiny carbon
I'm aware, just don't want anyone new or only casual browsers to the channel getting the wrong ideas.
So I am linking my evidence (as what we have) below for you to reference what I am.
We have the Primal Carnage: Genesis trailer, which shows us entering through the door, and showing us the B-443 lab. We are able to see the inside of the lab just fine, so we know what is on this side of the door. Link to that trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lf_Vrs9Dy0&
We were just revealed in Dondi's stream, that exact same lab. There is no new information here. We still have only one side of the door that's been seen.
The tweet and picture can be referenced below, as we are shown what can be presumed to be the inside of that door. Not only does it line up with all of the clips, but there are "decorations" on the outside of the door (shown in the Genisis trailer) that are not on the tweet's image of the door. Meaning this is still the inside of the door, with the text reading (archaically) "You never saw the other side of the door."
This is still true, even with the reveal. We have already seen the inside of this lab through the PC:G trailer, but not the outside of said lab. This reveal started from the inside of the lab, and simply turned around to reveal the exact same lab from the trailer.
So to conclude, we really have not seen the other side of the door yet. We still do not know what is on the outside of this lab, and what other number of unholy creations there are.
sleek temple
so whats the new lore stuff that came in from the stream?
radiant tiger
Did you watch dondis stream?
sleek temple
no im europe
radiant tiger
It was ended earlt
Early*
Showed stiff they werent supposed to
They are talking about it in general tho
plain gale
basically "confirms" PC and TI connection
woeful chasm
Which they previously had
sleek temple
jaja
remote jungle
The Primal Carnage Genisis trailer shows the pole with the wings sign (I forgot what it is) in the computers below the trex tank. If im not mistaken that sign pops up when you boot up the game.
icy onyx
Thats logo of Phoenix corp
remote jungle
thats what it is lol
icy onyx
From which AE gained assets during operation inferno
remote jungle
So the games are kinda connected right?
icy onyx
kinda
icy onyx
Same universe yeah, but primal carnage community wont accept it
icy onyx
classic phoneix corp employees hating on AE
trim palm
i wonder if pheonix corp will be getting a comeback... were they destroyed or?
fair finch
Were can i find the story from primal carnage? If ist connected i must check it out
icy onyx
Not sure, all knowlege i got from other people in this Discord
fair finch
Maybe after primal carnage the made new dinos and test them Now on the isle
fair finch
Where can i find the story ? Really i wanna know those things too
icy onyx
go into pinned documents @fair finch
fair finch
Where can i find these?
icy onyx
you on pc or phone? @fair finch
fair finch
Both
wraith nova
@fair finch on phone you will have three dots drop down menu, there's pinned messages. On pc there that pin icon that does the same thing.
fair finch
Ty
twin vale
@rose wagon keep it to the correct channels please, this area is for lore discussion.
rose wagon
sleek temple
do u guys think operation inferno dint wipe out phoenix
this is like my only evidence
"reclaimed"
twin vale
i don't think you'll get very far looking at PCE for more lore clues.
sleek temple
well where do i look then?
sleek temple
😠
sleek temple
oh wow
i never noticed that
the little light moves
its probably not noticable
icy onyx
light move
sleek temple
but the green light above the 2 switches
oh wiat
i might of posted same screenshot twice
00f
radiant tiger
Lol
icy onyx
Discord bug
sleek temple
radiant tiger
not seeing it
sleek temple
wewll u can check it urself but when u go into settings replay or play watch the green light
feral pond
That’s a graphical bug, even reported by myself. Don’t look too much more into it.
twin vale
the screen elements are intended to shift around, mainly to reposition in case you have a weird monitor resolution.
torpid jetty
yall are so cute
echo gazelle
There's nothing lore wise you could really find anymore. Maybe some light morse in the menus but they give us nothing. We really are dried up at this point and waiting endlessly.
torpid jetty
youre especially cute
sweet zephyr
That's not entirely true, LunchaBills
Someone went deeper than us and got into the juicy stuff.
It was super long ago though, so that person has kept it to themselves.
radiant tiger
anyone know if there is any lore on this tunnel near port
echo gazelle
Well that doesn't help us at all. If someone is keeping info to themselves then only they're moving forward. I remember there being a saying where the entire community will need to work together to figure the lore out and I believe that will soon step up when more lore things are added hopefully in the new map.
That tunnel could be anything. I made a theory about it possibly being an underground transportation kind of thing.
flint axle
that'd be cool if it was a tunnel, but ran from Docks/Port all the way to the dump/bog, or at least around another ruined area
crude quartz
um
anyone else hear the disturbing sounds and music when customizing your dino in the color pallet thing?
because I just heard some really wierd stuff
violet notch
Can I get a general who, what, when, where, why of the lore?
dusk axle
I doubt theres more lore out there anymore, not until an update comes
hasty latch
@violet notch
Pinned messages mate. Everything the Bothans have got so far.
crude quartz
@violet notch I could also give my best summary of it.
crystal sparrow
yeah i’m thinking the lore is on a standstill basically until the mythical recode comes out lol
icy onyx
Maybe a thing or two escaped our grasp but nothing major
sleek temple
mabye something did
crude quartz
Oh I know we missed alot.
woeful chasm
This channel is for serious story/lore discussion only. Use #401464048610312195 for general questions.
sleek temple
these are so hard to work out
sleek temple
ree how do i do this
radiant tiger
Do what?
sleek temple
in the little folder
with the notes
u know the way it has the (6 LETTERS) and whatever
ive been trying to figure them all out
ofc ive only got a few rn
crude quartz
GUYS
THERES A BUILDING WITH LIGHTS!
AS IN I CAN SEE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP!
woven nimbus
sure it's not radio tower? xP
crude quartz
yes
the lights were yellow
YELLOW
it was in the hills on the other side from the radio tower
willow apex
Screenshot
slow delta
Oh i'm sure we've missed lots of minor things but considering the big major ones were mostly lore sauce, I wouldn't worry so much about the small things.
sleek temple
what do u mean other side of radio tower?
crude quartz
I took a closer look in the day time and the lights seemed to be coming from the aviary or the big glass dome. I thought that I hadn't seen anything there at night like that though...
oak pumice
the aviary is shiny at night because of the shaders
there's no lights on it that i've seen, the dome is just hella reflective
crude quartz
ah thank you for the explaination, thought that some building had electricity for a moment there.
woeful chasm
@icy onyx this is for theory/lore discussion only.
shell eagle
Ok so, a couple of days ago i've talked to one of my friends about the Brachi and Growth system and Hypos...He said.
Idk about this if it's right or not, but maybe, MAYBE the Brachi will be an AI.
Now some people may wonder why would the Brachi be an AI, maybe some people would want to play as it or something...
Dondi said a couple of months ago something about Hypos being able to grow, what if...let's say, you're a normal Rex, right?
And you're sloooowly turning bigger and stronger and more cool looking, cause it is possible with the new growth system, and you completly turn into a Hypo Rex, and you need food really bad, and as i said if the Brachi will be an AI, maybe when you're a hungry Hypo a Brachi spawns in, but it would be a pretty big challenge to fight it, or maybe when there's big Apex packs around it'll spawn, idk, this came in my mind while i was wondering why the hell my friend said that maybe the Brachi will be an AI. And that makes sense to me, because if people are going to be able to play as Hypos, normal dinosaurus won't be enough food for just one Hypo, but Brachi would clearly be more than enough. Also i'd say maybe it won't spawn a smuch as the normal Ais do, but spawn like once a while, or ONLY when you're really hungry.
halcyon stirrup
It's already been stated that hunger is no longer going to be tied to AI spawns. Brachi is likely going to work like all AI, and probably spawn in select areas of the map.
Though, it's fair to assume one of the reasons larger AI are being implemented is as a more sustainable food source for larger carnivores including hypers.
The thing is, if you're a hyper, with all your speed and power, and you can't manage to get some kills to at least prolong your starvation, you probably shouldn't be a hyper in the first place
radiant tiger
How long is it estimated that a hyper will be able to prolong its death
Because lore wise they lasted a decent amount of time correct?
oak pumice
i'm holding out hope that hypos will inevitably starve, so they'll have some set expiration date instead of people being able to just keep them forever
river marsh
45 mins of hunger i think.
hearty wolf
Is it to far fetch to say that Apollo Enginerring started out as a de-extinction program, with ambitious goals. A program that many thought wouldn't produce anything until they produce a dinosaur, gain global attention, recognition, and controversies. During the height of this, then they became a multi-billion dollar company?
frank latch
I have a random theory that intertwines with the human consciousness in dinosaurs theory, this is short and just came to mind: AE was working for some government or maybe developing this to sell to governments, so they tried to make the hypers, neuros, and tissos for military purposes, but then found them too uncontrollable and so developed the human consiousnessin dinosaurs, possibly controlled by echidna the neuro representative.
echo gazelle
Neat theory. I do believe the Neuro strain itself will be significant in lore.
The first generation turned to worship. Results were hindered by the malignant passing down stories of how they came to be. Soon they stopped giving results at all. Echidna considered them all children.
This was an old transmission mentioning Echidna. Now we don't know a lot of backstory about her but she may be a key character in lore. Greek Mythology points to Echidna as a Half Snake, Half Human creature. She's the Mother of all Monsters and spent most her years in a cave.
frank latch
isn't that about the tribals
echo gazelle
Yeah that Transmission's about Tribals since recently we were shown a Generation 1 and 2 on Foszor's stream in the selection menu. It's really the only thing out there mentioning Echidna. Besides the Console info.
echo gazelle
Another Transmission or Console stream would be nice
frank latch
There's a lot more than I thought coming in the recode based on anths video
very exciting
but I guess this should move to isle discussion
echo gazelle
I mean, Anth's videos can be misleading sometimes. I'd have to watch and see it though before I judge.
slow delta
i want a console stream so i can finally ask wtf the harvest base is
for those wondering it's mentioned in one of those rotating messages you get when you die, you can view the full message in the pinned doc
sleek temple
harvest base
id not mind something like a lore stream
consider it only appears for the death screen
mabye it transmits ur conciousness back to the spawn area
ive been thinking of this
since foz added the new thingy
mabye that is harvest base?
barren grotto
The character selection room resembles something close to this. https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1097659439060897793
edgy pike
I think that's the idea for when it is finished
barren grotto
lol was just about to share that!
sleek temple
this is diffrent area
barren grotto
Are there any clues/mentions to anything behind a Door 00.
twin vale
..it's a prototype. please don't overanalyse it.
void oxide
I think think the gaps between each section of rust can be converted into morse code
wait it's binary
f's in chat
radiant tiger
bruh dino literally just said dont overanalyse it
idle zinc
A while ago(as in multiple months ago) I calculated the latitudinal location of V3 by waiting hours for the frickin rain to stop and measuring the location of the north star, or what seemed like the north star. But I don't count it as canon because it was definitely me over analyzing it
radiant tiger
I was talking about the door
He said dont overanalyse the door
however what you said
sounds actually pretty cool
idle zinc
If the devs did in fact map out the stars the way they should be, then V3 would be around 30-45 degrees north
radiant tiger
oh my gosh you have figured it out
twin vale
icy onyx
To add to arthtraxes, it is about 40°+ north according to flora, also early spring/late winter. What doesnt fit is the aurora borealis
it just isnt fit for the latitude
idle zinc
Someone did say something about "celestial events" or something like that
icy onyx
?
quartz sundial
Keep this channel serious pls
hearty wolf
I also want to add an theory on why the hypos and the other classes were created, Keep in mind that its not a detailed theory, more like food for thought... well junk food for thought. It comes back to my theory of what I said earlier (100+ msgs ago.) that maybe Apollo Engineering started out as a de-extinction program then escalated into what we see in the game, well I assume the remains and results of their work. What if the hypos and other classes weren't intended to be created as some military application or bio weapon. Maybe the work that led to the hypos & others were intended for other things like medical research or just playing god? If so, is it far fetch to think that the hypos was a failed result but the executives of AE some promise in its military application so continued on, which eventually led to the creation of the neuro and other?
lyric marlin
Okay so someone bring me up to speed on the general story of the isle, cus i know NOTHING
radiant tiger
@lyric marlin check pinned messages
There is a link to a site that has the lore known so far
unkempt frigate
I have a question.
In what world can an island filled with dinosaurs survive the great dieing, 1 ice age, avoid being found by humans for many many years, and the dinosaurs have not changed a bit in 25 million years?
final perch
same way a living thing can change the weather and blind things near it
grim turret
Isn’t the lore that humans created them all
radiant tiger
Yes
So the answer to your question would be they didn't @unkempt frigate they are just lucky others survived long enough to recreate them
icy onyx
@unkempt frigate Actually also quite a few dinos are different from their irl variants
icy onyx
Utah isnt utah actually
regal locust
I mean, you people forget that these aren’t legitimate dinosaurs.
grim turret
Basically how JP monsters were monsters and not dinosaurs essentially
final perch
hopefully it dies like v3 itself @icy onyx
regal locust
Alittle different, but, also accurate.
icy onyx
utah is bit more chonkier than v3 right?
final perch
irl utah?
icy onyx
no game utah
twin vale
that's something i made like over 5 years ago for PCE, it doesn't neccessarily apply to The Isle's utahraptor.
barren kelp
the whole defeathering process could, at least..?
twin vale
it's plausible. honestly most of The Isle's "lore" is still contained in dondi's brain, and he's changed his mind a few times.
snow flume
@twin vale, i agree with you...
supple dome
@snow flume I'd suggest not tagging devs bud
snow flume
ok... ;-;
supple dome
No worries
frank latch
this is more of an idea I think is cool than a theory, but I think it fits here: So I think it would make sense for the hyperendocrine colossus,(if all strain representatives have human or above level intelligence) to work for AE, because if it functions as a somewhat normal organism, it would need to eat, and the only organization that could feed it would be AE and on its' part of the bargain it would wipe out all organisms on an one of the islands (assuming AE operates on an island chain) if AE needed an island to start fresh with, for a new expirement. I'm pretty sure the colossus would be able to cross between islands.
elfin garnet
So i know its not to far fecthed that the dinsouars have human spirits in them
[day one] So I'm a new employee here at AE currently working on some cool stuff here with the team. Dave said hi by the way. I can't talk to you abt just yet... eeee I'm so excited! [Day two] Hello everyone again! I can't contain myself any longer; hopefully, I won't get in trouble! We've been working on reviving dinosaurs similar to Jurassic Park. Our test will begin tomorrow morning, Dave said. I honestly can't wait for this! [Day Three] Been working hard all day couldn't get any kicks in will try tomorrow.[Day Four] I did it! That's what hard work and determination gets you! I shouldn't be up this late I need to tell everyone this is amazing![Day 20] Sorry to get back to you guys so late with my new lead we've been able to work on every dino from Utahs to Allos progress has been scaling so fast I couldn't keep up! Currently working on another project with Dave and the boys, Working on the Trex, yes the trex freaking awesome! [Day 30] So apparently we're not alone here. I was told that it was just the AE team and I, apparently not. A man barely clothed show up near our headquarters just watching us. It gave me chills. We ended up shooing him away with a threat of lethal force. Im getting a bad feeling. [Day 35] It's alive! It's alive, muahahaha! How did you like my Dr. Frankinstien impression? We brought the Trex alive. currently it's lumping around near twins here. Don't worry; we're keeping an eye on it. Day[365] I've been lied too! This is a lie! I need to get out of here! I'm not going to! No, they can't be serious! This is notwhat i wanted! Everything went to shit! What do they think we are test subjects! I need to get the hell out of here!: The Isle isolated island that is used for test we thought we were alone, but we were wrong. I don't know what mysteries this place holds. Don't go searching like we were. Or you will end up discovering fates worse than death:
ill add to it the more info i get
its kinda whishy washy for now
fair finch
I think the didnt made them do dinos or so, i think they turned the humans in this Mutant Creatures
radiant tiger
No I do believe that they created the dinos
But if they put human intelligence into them or not is a bit hazy
echo gazelle
There's a couple leads that actually point towards some weird spiritual thing perhaps of transferring human consciousnesses into the mind of a Dinosaur. One example being from the Olympus Transmitter. https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1014161303613706240
Another being from the Console Interaction
Our consciousnesses are basically seen as Profiles to the Replicator. Each Dino could contain an EIP.
unkempt frigate
Oh
So
Oh...
They they aren’t the real thing
Recreated survivors
That’s survived the great dieing
And where all let out on an island
keen creek
the Isle's "utah" is an interesting case. For one is it a new species, but in what way? Was it already an unknown species of dromaesaur back in the Cretaceous or is it a new species based on an already existing one, but because it's genetics are so far removed from the original animal because of foreign DNA filling the empty spaces on the genetic code it has to be considered a new species? Also the lack of feathers is interesting, they lack any trace of them but they seem to retain smooth bird like skin, no scales nor scutes. That would suggest a gene/genes that supresses feather growth as opossed to gene/geness that substitute them for scales, perhaps the retention of original DNA or perhaps the result of avian DNA overwriting reptilian DNA as the vertical pupils and new hand structure would suggest?
nocturne cosmos
I don’t think the feather thing was around when utah was
Also I believe utah is getting renamed o something
tiny carbon
There is one EIP for every 1 player of the Isle, and every dinosaur has a "Profile" (Embryo Intelligence Profile most likely) inserted into them. We do NOT know what an EIP is. It could be an electronic device, it could be genetic data, it could be human consciousness, we are not sure and really no assumptions should be made that it is a human consciousness
The only thing we know about them is the name and that every dinosaur has one. It would be best to keep assumptions as to what it is out of general discussion until we know for sure what they are
nocturne cosmos
But it’s literally Embryo intelligence profile
trim palm
its almost assuredly suppression, dinosaur feathers are just a growth form of feathers, and the presence of scales on the lower leg/foot of the utah and most other dinosaurs imo proves that. but what i do find odd is that pyncofiber is also intentionally removed, which makes me wonder if its a biomechanical... hazard i guess? to the creation of assets, since i think those are actually not modified scales but are their own thing. either way, i hope we get clarification on why in-lore its like this, but im sorta doubtful itll become relevant to the lore
nocturne cosmos
That picture he showed of that is from the ai
tiny carbon
Yes, it's called an Embryo Intelligence Profile, not a human consciousness. We don't know what it is, and it could be anything
nocturne cosmos
It’s been heavily implied I believe
Which is why most think it’s human conscious tha and the fact we are playing the Dino
We are the profile
tiny carbon
There is not really any solid evidence that points towards profiles being human consciousness. We know that there is one profile for every one player, so no we are not the profile, but we each have a profile
So for all we know, it's just a scan of us that's being put in
For all we know, it's a little electronic device that lets us control them and only the ones that have our profile
nocturne cosmos
I’ve been heavily implied tho it’s why people believe it
tiny carbon
There's too many different directions that can go for everyone to keep assuming that it's simply just the straight human consciousness
nocturne cosmos
I mean it’s the best we have right now
trim palm
human consiousness theory makes me wonder why dinos are stated smarter when they are nested in vs when they are asset dropped. do they pass on a human sapiency???? or????
tiny carbon
That's about the only thing that I don't think we know anything about
nocturne cosmos
Well technically if you’re born you’re wild
You also don’t have the tracker which comes with the other dinos
If the human thing was right then I would assume when the egg is being made and gestated a profile gets put into it
tiny carbon
Ok, here it is:
Theory: EIP's (human minds/control chips/something) are being inserted into the minds of the dinosaurs, and this is how they are being controlled.
- We are inserting EIP's (Embryo Intelligence Profiles) into the minds of dinosaurs to control them.
- There is an EIP inside every controlled dino's mind.
- EIP's may be human minds, control chips, or they may be copies of our minds in a sense.
- There has been no confirmation (I'm aware of) on what *exactly* an EIP is, we have only been told what it stands for.
- The Affinity System was implemented to prevent profiles (us/human minds) from acting unpredictably once put into the minds of dinosaurs by convincing profiles that what the Replicator/AE wanted was what the profile wanted.```
My Explanation:
*You can reference my evidence below, all taking from actual canon sources (console interactions and transmissions) for everything I'm about to state.*
I believe that each person has an EIP made for them and this is what gets put into the dinosaurs. We are controlling the dinosaurs via these EIP's. Do I think that they are literally the minds of people? Not entirely. We aren't entirely sure the specifics of EIP's and what they are. They could be control chips, they could be programmed genetic info, or they could be copies of our human minds, I'm not sure and neither is anyone else, as there has been no cannonical "An EIP is this" anywhere that I am aware of. While we play the game, when we go to chat as our *dinosaurs*, we hear keyboard clacks in-game. Someone (we) are typing out a message on a keyboard for that dinosaur to transmit to others. The deathscreen appearing when we die helps point towards this theory that we are controlling them through a screen. If we weren't, the world would fade to black before we got to pick our dinos again. We wouldn't see more info suddenly appear.However, this does not prove the simulation theory. In fact, I'm going to say that the transmission tweet points away from the simulation theory, since it literally says EIP's being put into the minds of dinosaurs. Computer simulations most likely are not going to code for a controllable pawn (the dinosaure) having a mind. There would be no point, especially if they could just override it with an EIP. Why create a mind for a dinosaur that you are going to get rid of anyways? Simple solution, the dinosarus aren't coded. x-files theme
The type from below is from recorded console interactions that are (probably) old and outdated, but they are the only source of this information still canon until said otherwise that we have.
They say that an EIP is an Embryo Intelligence Profile. It then says that there are 100,000+ profiles active including AE staff. Then a user inquired about EIP Status. The Console asked for them to input User EIP, and it returned that it was active. This means that there are profiles for each user, and that the profiles represent each user (user being owner of the game) in the lore.
- EIP's are being created for every user (human mind).
- We have no confirmation as to what an EIP is. We know it stands for Embryo Intelligence Profile, but we have no idea what it is physically.
- EIP's (referred to as profiles) are being inserted into the dinosaurs. This is what gives users control over them.
- The tweet states EIP's are being put into the minds of dinosaurs, and that they couldn't get the profiles to behave how they wanted, so they implemented the Affinity System to convice them that what AE wants, the profile wants.```
```- Are human minds being inserted into the minds of dinosaurs? No. EIP's are.
- Are EIP's just a fancy word for human minds? We do not know. EIP's could be anything at this point, since there has been no concrete confirmation on what they are.
- Where's your evidence for all of this? In the below image taken from canon sources.
THESE RESULTS ARE NOT 100% CONFIRMED. THEY ARE THE CONCLUSIONS DRAWN FROM THE EVIDENCE BELOW AND ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY NEW LORE CONFIRMATIONS```I made this post about the EIP's ages ago, you can read up on the details there
tiny carbon
No one knows, and that's the problem
nocturne cosmos
Since it says there they were unpredictable and didn’t give the right results so they made the affinity complex which I assume is referring to the affinity system we are getting
So it can’t just be a chip
tiny carbon
it's most likely not just a chip. We can't say that it's simply humand minds either. If we said that, then it wouldn't explain literally a quarter of the gameplay itself
nocturne cosmos
What would it not explain
tiny carbon
If you read the post, I explained how in-game we hear keyboard clicks when we type out messages. Why would we hear keyboard clicks? Sure it could just be some flair for the UI, but that takes effort to put in and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for it to be there anyways. Then we have the death screen, where we get to see our dinosaur die and then get to see all this sort of computer code shiz pile up on our screen. If we were a human mind being transferred to a new dino, we would we be seeing computer information? that wouldn't make any sense
nocturne cosmos
Keyboard doesn’t
But with the code shit you could probably having being the human being transferred of some sort
Just about reaching
trim palm
keyboard clicks ingame i feel is there to keep you from saying wwwwwww and complaining when you die
tiny carbon
Humans don't dream or see in computer code I assure you. There's no reason that we would suddenly see that kind of information if we were actually there
nocturne cosmos
What actually is the code you see when you die
tiny carbon
The whole death screen?
tiny carbon
The whole screen is a console log combined with other computerized graphics
trim palm
we do iirc. its the end is never the end and other bits, i thiiiiiink its pinned?
tiny carbon
Why would we see that when we die instead of just going straight to the next dino selection if we were just human minds in the dinosaurs? It doesn't explain having to interact with a computer in order to control the dinosaurs
nocturne cosmos
Also let’s say you are Humana nd you also and some how begin put in this Dino information needs to be taken from you after you die
And that’s why you see the code
Since you’re not just a human body in a Dino
You would be some sort of confuses and this code you’re seeing could just be it taking the information form you
tiny carbon
If that's the case then why would you get to see it?
trim palm
we would see that screen cheifly to express to the player that they died and it was not a bug or glitch bringing them to the select menu.
nocturne cosmos
Why would they make hypos
trim palm
we are still playing a videogame
tiny carbon
Yes I understand that, but there's still a lot of actual effort into making those things happen from a programming and artistical standpoint. They could easily exclude half of the deatils and simply say "You Died" when you die instead of showing you all this confusing red stuff
trim palm
my hint here is that there is no heart attack, murmur, or abnormality on the ekg before it stops to signify death. i think theyre slightly softer heartbeats, but im iffy on putting huge credence on the visuals denoting life/death here
tiny carbon
Yes but my point is why would we get to see all of that extra information? Human minds controlling dinosaurs wouldn't get to see a console log connecting to the replicator when they died. Sure there might be a connection if this was the case, but why is it painstakingly made computerized. That combined with when you pause the screen there's "dirt" effects and then keyboard clacks when you type, it doesn't make sense for the dinosaurs to be being controlled by just a human mind that's been put into them. It would make more sense for a profile to be a control chip of sorts that allows that particular person to connect to and control that dino from a computer screen than for it to be an actual human mind
nocturne cosmos
Dude you can ask why about basically everyhting in this game
tiny carbon
Of course I'm not saying that this is the case, just that it's more likely from what we canonically have
And I know you can, but I'm only asking why about the weird parts that no one else is asking why about
nocturne cosmos
It’s more like we have nothing right now
tiny carbon
I'm aware that we have nothing right now. The whole point of me jumping in was to remind everyone not to say something is this until we know for sure what it is, as that'll get everyone ass-backwards when it is revealed for what it is
My biggest stance on all of this is proving why theories don't work more than actually giving new ones
nocturne cosmos
Theories and just that theories
tiny carbon
When you put it that way I could theorize that the replicator is what's left of the world and you can't tell me no because we don't know for sure because it's a theory
There's theories and then there's bad theories
Not wrong there
nocturne cosmos
Theories are kinda meant to just be there until we get solid evidence otherwise
Fuck I wish we were back in the good old days of daily doses of lore
keen creek
@trim palm The scales of the foot seems to be a common trait in all theropods and some ornithopods in the Isle, though they are different degrees of how pronounced they are. Ceratosaurus for example has them less visible whereas T-rex and Utah have them more pronounced, interestingly it seems to correlate to how accurate they are to the real animal as Cerato doesn't diverge too far from the original creature as opossed to the the Utah and Rex.
trim palm
chickens have those scales as well, it is connected to featheredness in some. rex and utah are also the only current playables that were covered to any known degree afaik? who knows, i never noted the dinosaurs who lacked it and their irl counterparts / if they had a previous feathered version
barren grotto
@tiny carbon I agree that our consciousness isn’t inside the dinosaur, as we log into the game seeing the Apollo Engineering logo, and are in front of a console, which could mean us the player are Apollo Engineering or a trespasser. From what we might know from the lore AE clones (replicates) dinosaurs and may have placed profiles (computer chips), or human consciousnesses inside of these cloned dinosaurs.
Here's a website that has some of the known lore, but not sure how up to date it is. https://taterfilore.wixsite.com/theisleslore/apollo-engineering
keen creek
Most birds have those scales indeed. Real life utah was covered in feathers, though if TI "utah" is indeed another species we cannot confirm for certain if the original animal it was based on had feathers or not. As for t rex the debate is still out there, though TI t-rex skin is actually quite accurate given the information we currently have. Funnily enough there is another example that seems to confirm the feather supression effect, and that is the Gallimimus. Not only does it have no sign of feathers but it also has the same naked non scaly skin that the "utah" has. Though in it's case it seems the original DNA seems to be prevalent and doesn't seem to have that many foreign elements added to it.
It certainly seems that some dinosaurs have been recreated with more quantity of original DNA and thus resemble their ancestors much more closely than others.
keen creek
I mean more within the lore, rather than any current theories
I'm aware, what I argue is 1. Is it a new species because it always has been like that or because it's a completely different animal because of genetic manipulation?
and 2. It's lack of feathers as well as the lack of feathers in other dinos is caused by supressing genes
Wait so they are connected? Then why they are always denying a connection?
toxic siren
dondi used to work for pimeal carnage
twin vale
so did i, doesn't mean there's an ironclad link between the two storylines.
toxic siren
yea
keen creek
a genuine utah?
twin vale
we're taking some of the ideas and concepts, which ones are a little up in the air because the actual basics of the game are still being finished.
toxic siren
i think magnarex looks like the rex from primeal carange is that what you guys had ideas of .
or was that just a acident .
i mean coincidences
echo gazelle
Yeah dondi stated before if there was a huge link between the two it would be noticeable.
keen creek
if the dinosaur we call "utahraptor" in game is supossed to be a genuine utahraptor then that opens a whole new can of worms
twin vale
something something artistic license
twin vale
the latest spinosaurus doesn't exactly look like the real one
keen creek
given that it's a recreation, and very likely from incomplete DNA then it's genetic code was so messed up that it has become a new animal altogether
indeed, I'm not complaining
what I mean is it furthers the theory that some dinos have more original DNA than others
hence their "accuracy" or better yet resemblance to the original animals.
I personally was under the assumption that utah was to be renamed
twin vale
i don't see the need myself
keen creek
in any case it doesn't change the theory that much