#isle-lore-theories
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Nope
eh doesn't really matter, just play as the Sub-Rex forever, they have the same stats
You just need to imagine that the sub-rex is an alberto

Feels more like #401464048610312195
A real theory would be that AE's labs aren't on The Isle. Instead they just ship everything to ports like the one on V3
Wonder if Hope will have a lot of ports to help further suggest this theory is still relevant.
Makes me wonder if we'll have to leave the island to possibly find where the lab is as mercs.
And even more so if that door we got transmissioned is also going to be on the island, or where the lab could theoretically be?
From what we gathered so far magnas where made by AE, sure rex eas made from samples of both PC rexes, but as far as we know magnas weren't present in PC. They were create later, all could be based on PC studies. So PC dinos =/= Isles gen 1 magnas.
Tartarus is one of their labs or am I wrong đ¤
More like observation area.
ah but B-442 and B-443 were magnas, and those were owned by PC, AE collected specimen samples or something and made their own from that
tbh Myn
ive been thinking about that alot
Hope has quite a few islands
3 main big ones
I'm pretty sure they used genetic samples as base for magna and made changes to make it perfect organism. That explains why gen 1 was oversized and was incapable of swiming for too long.
pretty sure Gen 1 and Gen 2 are around the same size
and i feel gen 1 is smaller when comparing B - 443 to the magna ingame
They did use genetic samples, but they were samples from pre-existing dinos, but yeah I believe that AE did make changes in an attempt to make it the perfect organism
and not all PC dinos are magnas
no
Just rexes
the dilo / cryo are juvis with abilitys planted in
Thats what I was talking about, the rexes
long leggy spin
Someone was mistaking Novaraptor with magna raptor so I refered to all PC dinosaurs that could be taken for magna
looks like im going to have to go after videos with magna in it to find its size
magna rex?
yea
it's like, 1.5x times bigger than a Rex iirc ?
its a tad smaller than hyper rex iirc
ive been trying to find a good scale comparison
I think there's a clip showing the rex, magna rex and hypo rex next to each other
but that might be really old
i guess i could use the video that magna has been most recently used in
pretty old but
2nd rex revision but its probably not that off
the isle rex is quite close to the size of irl rex
to be fair the PC rex matches that size so damn perfectly
in the hyper gen 1 and gen 2
there was never a size change just abilitys and intellegence
dongi they are
mabye there isnt a size change with magna rex
through the gen 1 and gen 2
size hasnt changed
the latest video magna was shown was when it came on and killed the hypers and checking the size comparisons there
since it hasnt changed that pic u sent dongi is a really good scale
So uh quick question, is primal carnage dead or does it have a fair bit of players on?
Devs fooling around
yeah thats just devs messing
yes, but if there is any truth to this...
Did this happen now?
is that on nycta?
bio isle
devs messing
no not bio isle my mistake
ah i get it
isle nation
if u take it literal
they probably through in a hypo to mess with people
yeah
yeah
yeah what about it?
delivary of hypos
yeah the devs bring hypos in all the time
quetzal chooses where they get delivered
The devs use quetz as an early warning system most of the time
im not talkign about it from a game stand point
sometimes youll see a quetx then a hypo shows up
yeah but thats what it is
its jsut the dve messing
i mean how the message tells us how hypers are put on the island
yes, but there's gotta be a connection if its happened multiple times
pretty sure the warning is the message itself
yeah but seeing the quetz you know wer eit is
the message jsut tell you theres a hypo
yes, meaning the quetz delivers the hypo
no
i mean it cant carry
true
the quetz is a warrning
i was just thinking humans would put hyper down somewhere that quetzal chooses
then the hypo shows up the quetz dosent pick it up and bring it
yeah, I guess weight would be a problem
it says quetz has "chosen" the delivery location, not made the delivery
Looking too far into devs messing around with the game.
its a theory worth exploring upon tbh
perhaps I do take things too literally and there's nothing to it, it is true that it doesn't make much sense having a dinosaur (even a smart one) choose the delivery location of a type-h specimen, but then again many things here don't make sense
its just them messing dude
Okay so saying " It doesn't make sense but not a lot does " is not reason enough to explore something that's clearly just the devs messing around.
The rest makes sense in a sci-fi universe, this is literally just devs playing around
That's just a dumb arguement
ah but it is not clear, unless we directly ask the devs there is no way to know for a fact that its messing around
if ya wanna play that game
no
this is isle theories
Yeah but try to make believable theories not just " Anything the dev does must have a meaning in some obscure way. "
taking everything for granted gets one nowhere though
Isn't that a counter argument to your own theory ?
Oof
how so? looking into something is practically the opposite of taking it for granted
Let's stop debating what is a theory or not and keep this for actually theories.
Let me clarify, this channel is intented for lore theory
my theory is that this was like a lost island and shit and there were tribals and shit but then ppl came in and took the dinos and kinda started doing some genetic stuff on them. so now theres hypos n shit
i dont think all the dinos were like created by man n shit i think ppl just stumbled upon it.....yeh
kinda like that one king kong movie with the dinos in it
where he opens the trex mouth so wide and its rips and shit and he tries to put it together for comic effect. So maybe its an island like that but they are doing genetics and stuff cus jp fans maybe idk
except it actually was confirmed that the dinos were manmade
wtf spoiler alert
Also it is confirmed that those dinos are made with human consquicness
or whatever the word is written like
Consciousness 
speaking of that
wouldnt they have human emotions regardless of affainity forcing them to do it
and by do it i mean follow what affinity tells them to do
which would lead me to "intellegence" of the dinos
if 1 player is controlling a neuromatic strain and the other is controlling just a normal dino
what does it mean by intellegence?
since as humans control them both wouldnt it mean they would both be around the same?
the only difference being the abilitys they have
Pretty sure the dinosaur's brain would be a limiting factor
Yeah, like, for example parrots display a variety of âhumanâ emotions in tests. To specifically give a Dino a âhuman consciousnessâ would probably mean itâs way smarter than a Dino was originally intended to be. Anyway, random though.
Are you talking about the little symbol?
Deaderic cults confirmed but gonna go with texture coincidence
Cause I think that is a coincidence
This is on the front too https://i.imgur.com/pYFPhbo.png
A cama my friends just killed
lookos likes like combine insignia lol
probs just two wounds mirroring each other in a weird way
Hmmm
er
wait actually that sounds right
Wouldn't they be similar in shape then?
on either side of the leg the wounds look mirrored
i dont think the wound system would leave lore in it
its not even that polished
its just wounds oddly mirroring each other on the very middle of the dinosaur
Doesn't seem like a wound, there's no red or blood around it, also would they really be in that perfect symbol shape?
dunno what the V is tho, that one definately doesn't look like a would
the other one is definately a wound
you can see the surrounding wounds have the same color and shade
i think you're looking too much into it
and the wounds above it are also mirrored
Bottom one could be a wound but this one doesn't seem like it https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/7996d53dfca2df13b872532fa5f6fdd7-png.jpg
yeah thats definitely not a wound i dont think
the majority of dinosaur models do not have a dedicated wound texture afaik. this seems more like the uvs not matching the textures used
maybe the texture artist lobbed their watermark on in lmao
yeah its literally just.. wounds messing up from odd placement
which happens to be right in the middle of the symmetry
Erm
^ Doing textures symmetrically halves the work needed and a lot of texturing/modeling programs have a symmetry mode built in
Doesn't follow the wound visuals. An indent with a black line in it?
A gray indent at that
like wadd said
Someone already mentioned possibly bad UV's.
Obviously we can't say that we're sure that's it, but if it is meant to be something then why is that only on the Cama and not on anything else like that?
Whoever says it's 'just a wound' is definitely an anti-conspirationist because he knows the truth đ
So where exactly do the islands take place in the isle lore?
We don't know
What if it takes place on an previously uninhabited group of islands that was later found by the outside world. then dinosaurs put onto, it since they couldnât swim off or anything. there wasnât anyone there, expect there was someone thereâ the tribals. the tribals were previously a small group of exiled Polynesians who decided that the outside world was not welcomeâ seeing as how the outside world had abandoned them and then exiled them. However, they soon discovered the horrors of the island: Cannibals. The cannibals has previously usually preyed on small mammals and large insects that were native to the island. However, now they had larger prey to catch. The tribals had to adapt to this new threatâ learning and practicing ways to defending themselves. Quite a long time passed. Now, their origin was merely thought of as a sort of mythological legend. The only new contact they had had with the outside world was a group of wayward French traders during the 18th century. The tribals killed them, staying with the belief that long ago the outside world had abandoned their legendary ancestors, only remembered by the legends. Then, after a while of peaceful living, aside from the cannibals, there were suddenly dinosaurs on the island, as someone needed somewhere to put themâ and decided the mainland governments would probably not stand for it. So they had found a thought to be unclaimed and uninhabited island, and then put their dinosaurs on it. And then they put their mercs on it, after a short period of time spent hiring them, as well as testing their skill. Only after they started getting reports from their mercs did they know that the tribals were there.
Only problem is we have modern human structures on the island which would of preceded the dinosaurs appearing.
Also remember that the dinos were âcontainedâ at one point in time and didnât roam free necessarily from the get go
Yea
Iâll edit it
I had another idea
I edited it
But then
It didnât edit
That took me like 10 minutes
What if it takes place on an previously uninhabited group of islands that was later found by the outside world. then dinosaurs put onto, it since they couldnât swim off or anything. there wasnât anyone there, expect there was someone thereâ the tribals. the tribals were previously a small group of exiled Polynesians who decided that the outside world was not welcomeâ seeing as how the outside world had abandoned them and then exiled them. However, they soon discovered the horrors of the island: Cannibals. The cannibals has previously usually preyed on small mammals and large insects that were native to the island. However, now they had larger prey to catch.
The tribals had to adapt to this new threatâ learning and practicing ways to defending themselves. Quite a long time passed. Now, their origin was merely thought of as a sort of mythological legend. The only new contact they had had with the outside world was a group of wayward French traders during the 18th century. The tribals killed them, staying with the belief that long ago the outside world had abandoned their legendary ancestors, only remembered by the legends. Then, after a while of peaceful living, aside from the cannibals, there were suddenly dinosaurs on the island, as someone needed somewhere to put themâ and decided the mainland governments would probably not stand for it. So they had found a thought to be unclaimed and uninhabited island, and began to build structures such as the Aviary and the Radio Tower on it. However, soon the existence of the tribals was realised. Mercs were soon sent in to protect the construction workers. Expectedly, construction was slow. Once it was finished, scientists and researchers were soon sent in to settle into their new homes. More mercs were sent with them. Then, the dinosaurs were airdropped in. The were successfully contained for quite a while, allowing the scientists to modify them and the researchers to study them. They created things like the âNovaraptorâ (which is the âUtahraptorâ). Then, soon after the successes of the strain dinosaurs, the dinosaurs escaped. While valuable scientists and researchers were shipped out, more mercs were ported in. Mercs were tasked with mostly tagging escaped dinosaurs and their offspring, as well as culling dangerous individuals, all while the tribals made their best efforts to eliminate them.
Finally
Also Phoenix Corp was making them for war which most likely means governments were involved
No like
If it was on the mainland
And it was big enough
Iâm pretty sure someone from PETA would notice
Then the government has to either pretend to comply
Or look sketchy
So they sent it to a random group of islands
Iâm guessing none of the work was done on any mainlands, similar to how Jurassic Park was all done on islands
Except maybe initial discovery of being able to get the dna and maybe complete it, but then move offsite for actually hatching them
Tho I think they would have perhaps created some dinosaur eggs or something in a lab on the mainland, then sent it to the islands
Yea
And PETA wouldnât do anything because they wouldnât be allowed knowledge in the first place
Maybe the tribals were transported to the island as test subjects so the scientists could see the dinos in action without losing valuable mercenaries
That seems like a legit theory but what if it was a Jurassic world attempt where the tribal people already lived there but we're almost brought to Extinction because scientists created dinosaurs and let them loose on accident because the type h Dino's destroyed the facilities and labs causing a whole jail break scenario
I think it was said they were âunwantedâ people (homeless, criminals, etc) for AE to test stuff on
You guys remember that tribals = canibals? That deformed human like things, not blind, slim, climby fuel for nightmares that look like pulled from Alien. Also tribals are people that were infected by Echidna. Please forget that placeholder model of native american, it was place holder, probably needed to implement some code that needed to be in game that will help later implement human into it. Name tribals comes probably from side effect of infection, whatever it is, and they get kind of de-evolved and might be fact that those aren't that smart.
People know tribals are also canibals but ya need a name for the blind bois so I think most people just keep to what we all ways call them
where was it said that tribals were infected by echidna
seems obvious to me that's not the case, but we don't really know anything about tribals
No they are not related, however you will have to play tribals to learn about echidnaâs children
The blinds bois are enchadins kids
Right
record
^^
This is a joke, I am half expecting it in all honesty
oh, recode
The recode is going to come eventually. Discussing about it is not something for this channel... There should only be serious isle theories about the actual lore in here.
well continueing on that
Neuros were kepted below atrium B
so i think Tissos were kepted inside atrium B away from neuros
Aye, I'm thinking they'll kept way away from other creatures due to their rather unique abilities to control others and effect the weather among other things.
thats why neuros were below atrium B
That's what I was saying bud
Or possibly Farther out at a remote site deep underground.
I feel like that one piece tap did of a nuero spino being dissected hints toward something a bit darker and deepr than the atriums
thats why neuros are held below atrium B not inside it
there is prob massive underground areas for them
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
ofc i want to find out where it is
"within 8 letters "
I'm starting to think they may be kept even further out.
Maybe even offshore somewhere.
Only accessible through tunnels inland that go out.
These guys are arguably the deadliest of the lot.
the genetic material has to be extremely volatile to receive such treatment.
I'm thinking they take the failures apart and sell anything useful off to the military or something.
i mean
it says they were halted
meaning the studys dint take place beneath Atrium B until problems came
ofc does it not intrest u by "type n bio materials"
Things do change. Lore grows.
Hell we now know that the tisso reapers used to be people
Changed by implantation of tissoplastic flesh
whichy means touching these materials "infects" you
Nonono
Something in the Nueros is volatile.
The tissoplastic flesh itself is regenative and will infect a host should it be implanted and cause the host to mutate.
The hyperendochrine syndrome is a manipulation of dna/disease that caused you the subject to grow uncontrollably and have an extremely high metabolism that causes never ending hunger.
These all have their own uses and were equally tested for various reasons.
ur wrong about the hyperendochrine
How so
it cant be dna or disease
It's can be quite easily
we know hypers cant be birthed
noper doper
They can be birthed but they can't breed
Think on that
Since they "have to grow" as don said
I'm assuming they start off somewhere.
But as I was saying.
With the tisso they were probably experimenting to further human capabilities in regeneration for soldiers.
And well we all know where that went when the reapers came about.
And for the type-H.
It would be the obvious choice to say super soilder but that's only one option of many.
But the question is. Why go through all the effort to do these experiments on dinosaurs to effect humans.
Eh so many theories that could be true .
Who knows.
wernt the human expirements first, i remember hearing that somewhere
I don't think so, but maybe𤡠I don't know.
Either way it's still cool to theorise on things.
The term was they canât grow but evolve or something
@hoary badger that theory works really well (the second, two paragraph one that you posted), but I think the "disaster" where strains were made a success, I think right before they made some strains, (some, not many. So by then they knew that they could make strains and had made a couple, probably a hyper mosa or some other random strain) but then they made the Hyper Quetz. I think that this whole "disaster" was indirectly and directly caused by making the Hyper Quetz. So, the scientists knew that the original strains were incredibly chaotic and could wipe out entire ecosystems, so they tried to make a failsafe. The "magnas". They made one, a magna spino (its remains are visible now inside of titan lake). Magnas dont stop growing, but its metabolism is fixed, unlike the hypers, neuros, and tissos. This magna spino didnt grow to kaiju sizes when people were on the island, but it was a sort of failure in a way. It grew much too fast, so they tried to make another failsafe, this time a fixed one, but before they could use it, the hyper quetz broke out of it's atrium, and next thing led to another and the whole island was either evacuated or killed. While everything was run-down, that first failed magna spino grew really big and eventually died (probably by some other magna, there are some gaps in this theory) The hyper quetz was never seen after that, but it's probably not dead.
And the non-failing magna dna was made, but they couldnt use it, so that magnas can get used in the final game
That theory works really well actualy
Hmm
Okay I saved it
thats aint a mangan spino in the lake
also the strains come from three diffrent big bois enchandia,collous and tisso boi but hes getting reworked
those remains were theriosed t be form island walkers or something
Island walkers is a real old ass thing
That people speculate to be the bones 8n the lake
And tisso is
Why u donât see them
ty
And uh
Could you explain the island walkers to me?
Iâve never heard of them
Yeh i still strongly belive the skeleton is an island walker. Also i found a pic of an island walker im pretty sure Tapwing made it? But i cant find it again.
Please do, I wanna have a look.
So do i but i cannot find it again
It's almost like you guys are using the theories channel as if it was isle-discussion... Interesting
Yeah it keeps getting out of hand
Wait what island walkers.
in terms of the Hypo's growth, it definitely can't be a DNA change
Rather it is more liable a exo-agent in the bloodstream releasing a certain chemical cocktail causing such growths
We know it's possible for a chemical dosage to cause certain spats of growth
A cocktail of them cause cause multiple changes
What if hypers are implanted with refillable skin attachments, like patches, but with a refillable capsule on it or something, on a thin and accessible area of their skin
And it maintains them
But if the patch is removed then their hunger, size, and metabolism may slowly start to decrease until they become normal, or decrease but stay heightened compared to the average norm of their species
So theyâll implant Formousâs chemical cocktail
Nah there just hungry hungry bois
Iâm pretty sure V3 doesnât have anything lore related atm
The new map will have lore
Well, it has the aviary and a couple of buildings here and there
human buildings, p much it
When will it be updated?
That's a great theory you got there 
I like theories
@icy onyx never lol
those parts of v3 will probably be transplanted onto the new map.
ohh interesting
Most likely due to ties with lore
i dont think v3 has much lore in it as it could
Aviary and port probably the most
Also rt
True, it had/has a Morse code signal right?
yep
ah i get it now
i do hope they add Atriums A B and C tbh and if C is added then mabye that marsh area would be added
It depends on if they are located in the same area... unless there was only ever 1 island with multiple regions for testing different things
i mean
C is probably on one of the big islands
A seems to be on a very small islands since it has the lighthouse
and B well thats unknown location and even how it looks
is quetzal normally this big?
Thatâs primal carnageâs why do you wane known if that how big it norammly is.
Isnât it just something in the background ?
it's in the skybox more or less so you arent meant to be that close in actual gameplay
it's a placeholder for him because pc can't get new models 
im just asking the size
Plus the alpine was a hypo
It wonât be right is the thing
And sized compared to what
Since thereâs arenât the same as ours
compared to the ptera?
Idk itâs a background boi
You ainât meant to be that close
Better to find a sheet for it
Iâm sure primal carnage has a thingy for it
We are getting off topic a bit
we never see alfie throughout primal, and the only model that exists is a wonky shadow
i was just thinking it looks bigger than a normal quetzal
pretty sure alfie is supposed to be a hyper or sumn
It is
yeah
It would be way bigger then that wonky ass shadow
Hypos are dinosaurus that legit just got sick with something like cancer, all the tumors are the armor, and they eat alot because the sickness makes them
Thats my theory
No
Ik its far fetched
What if a sickness was purposly put in them?
Each strain has a monster sort dude behind it
Neuro Spino is the only Neuro we actually have a full model of soo
I'd hope its your favorite lol
lol
Idk man neuro turtle looks pretty hot
Ikr
If there are Russian in a personal email I want to play with someone else in ze Isla
when will people understand this is for theories
I wonder if the Hyper strain was inspired from a special thing in resident evil as we all know dondi likes RE and i read about a creature in that serie wich had regen abilities,very armored and had to eat constantly
This is for isle theories, not people getting crazy ideas from watching anth's latest video about breaking the database again
@versed island
To be honest, this channel should be renamed isle-lore-theories, so people won't come here with random ideas
i agree
Agreed
Why would the humans on this island want to hunt the dinosaurs?
I guess they could hunt to then capture and make experiments
Hence why you see mutations like the neuro which is supposed to do something
And you also have the hypo which is a bigger boi
Maybe they hunt for food
So they travel all the way to notjurassicpark island to hunt dinosaurs for food? Naaaw
Only the tribals would really have an excuse to do that
The humans will be our lil playthings. Even tacos will terrorize them
Hypo humans
I don't think Mercs are there to hunt dinosaurs
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mercs have been described as being survivors, their supplies of guns and ammo are incredibly limited so they only use them to protect themselves from attacks
I don't think it would make sense for them to be hunting
theres probably gonna be people trying to hunt the dinosaurs like PC:E
So I remember some discussion on Dondi wanting to link the PC:E and Isle universes together with the Magnatyrannus...if this does happen, what would be the excuse of those Dinosaurs being radically stylized, a competing genetics company to Apollo, biological warfare use? Would the Novaraptor of that universe be a precursor to the Magnaraptor? Considering the loading screen dossier of the Novaraptor says "Destroy them ALL" or something like that. A prototype maybe? And finally the biggest question for the supposed shared universe of Primal and The Isle, where are Phoenix Corp.'s facilities located?
My theory for if this shared universe becomes reality is that Phoenix is a contending genetics company that aims to weaponize genetic engineering, hence the creation of the Novaraptor and their armored up Carnotaurus, T. Rex, Acro and Spinosaurus. Not to forget the lethality of Pteranodon, Tupandactylus and the "Spitters"
Apollo Engineering, realizing they had competition, wanted to prove to military buyers, that they could do better, thus authorizing the genetic monstrosities known as the Neurotic, Tissoplastic and Hyperendocrine strains. Like a biological arms race, when Phoenix revealed a new specimen, their super predator (Spinosaurus), Apollo had to step up their game as they found the prototype strains too difficult to control, and wanted to perfect it with their very own Magna specimens. This corporate greed eventually caused a containment breach for both companies, which explains why the human factions from both games are present, assigned with the task of neutralizing any strained mutants found, or the dinosaurs themselves as a whole.
That's a nice theory
except for the fact the dinosaur broke out of Phoenix's containment due to an earthquake
I can see everything else lining up
idk if pheonix corp still exists in the isle unvierse, as apollo got all their assets
maybe in the past tense
Probably explains why all the maps in Primal are abandoned or all worn down.
Nobody's left there.
also dondi has stated many times that dinosaurs would make shit weapons, I don't think he would use such a plot in his game
So then that begs the question...why the strains? Specifically, why the Hypos? Their skin is essentially bulletproof to the point where they had to develop anti-hypo weaponry.
hmm I don't think anti-hyper weaponry really exists
it's just a matter of firepower, average guns wouldn't hurt a hyper
There was talk about Mercs finding weaponry that could combat Hypos.
Of course it being rare but
but bryan did a funny thing on stream where he showed that destroyer/battleship weaponry would totaly destroy a hyper
ye, anti hyper weaporny would just be a very powerful gun or explosives
Maybe the battleships exist to stop a Hypo Spino swimming I the mainland...?
no that wasn't a plot thing
he was just showing that a hyper would crumble under anything actually powerful
the only reason hypers survive on the islands is that all the mercs can get are basic guns, which the hypers are immune to
I don't understand the preventive measures that stop a Hypo Spino from swimming to the mainland honestly, there are fences on land, but they don't look very strong.
hyper spino would likely drown before it reaches the mainland
not drown
fuck
die of hunger
idk how I got those confused
I don't think we have anything concrete yet on the PURPOSE of strains
hold on Iemme check the lore thingymajig
They seem fitted for military warfare...Neurotic strains are said to be able to disable electronic equipment and cause auditory and visual hallucinations, Tissoplastic strains are stealthy but potent with their abilities and Hyperendocrines are essentially living fortresses.
dondi said dinos would make shitty for military because of upkeep, you'd have to transport a huge amount of food in order to keep them for something that isn't even that useful
I guess so.
now strains are different, we don't know much about the other 2 but hyper is just exaggerating it, it would be impossible to keep it alive
Still with these abilities in mind the only thing I could think of to explain their supposed abilities was that Dondi contradicted himself.
and a magnarex is meant have way better hunger needs then a hyper rex, which may make it easier to use, I still doubt that would be a plot though
The Magnatyrannus is rumored to be a perfected form of the H strain.
well like I said, hyper would starve before it could be of any use, and both hyper and magna would be destroyed by military weapons
I mean, magnatyrannus was siezed from pheonix, so I'm not sure about that
wait was hyper made by apollo or was it also taken from phoenix?
ah it was taken, so idk
isnt magna supposed to be a "natural" hyper?
I don't think we have anything concrete on what magnarex is meant to be
its a simulation or in a dream .
Ewww
I hated the buildings tbh. In lore I get why they're there but aside from Radio Tower and Shipyard, I can't interact with anything else
Especially those 4 squares that give the AE logo. That's like. Ew I stay away from that
It's just painful to be around
I think magna is supposed to be the perfected hyper
Same level of killing machine but without the properties of a black hole for meat
But I could be wrong
Maybe magna was the 1st attempt at hyper but they werenât satisfied with it, kept experimenting, and that led to the final product being the armored, mutated, insatiable killing machine
Hyper rex was an inperfected magna
Magna is smaller and a bit weaker but its superior in survival
It doesn't require a lot of food
Same thing might go with the Magnaraptor and Hyperencodcrin utahraptor
Magna was made as a failsafe for hypos, and had a fixed metabolism so it didnt wipe out the whole food chain
It actually can battle a hypo I believe
it hardly can
the magna we saw killing a hypo the hypo was starving
and already hurt
it was already said magna has a really low chance against hypo
words i know very bad
Magna is bigger then regulars, smaller then hypo and bit weaker then hypo but unlike hypos it wont starve to death
So technically it is improved Hypo
magna and hyper arnt related but i wouldnt say improved hyper
id say a balanced hyper
i heard somewere that magna is a stage before hyper
screenshot of a twitch clip to show the size between the hyper magna and regular
old or new?
wdym
old
doubt it, Hypers are square size their non strain counterparts
if u doubt go find the latest version both have been seen together
the trex there though i dont think is correct
Youâre a bit off topic now
Here's a better size scale of the three Rexs. Hyper. Magna. Regular.
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/AmericanCarelessLapwingCharlietheUnicorn?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
......holy
Hey um so while I was planning the hypo spino attack in my isle fan film how much do you want to bet th hypos are not mutated but evolved versions of the normal creatures
I'm thinking mutants, because there's 3 different strains
i read somewere that they're mutations through some creepy ass plants
That's only a theory, but yeah, the concept art of some mutated spooky trees/plants were shown few months ago
Ah ty
So im pretty interested in big bone now that I found it do we even know what it is.
What s that
Big bone the big skeleton on v3
That is why i think the island looks abandoned
The testing on the island with dinos
went as planned
untill some day, super strong mutated dinos turned up
and they started havoc
what if the holes in the dock are not from breaking out?
but from breaking in?
They had to abandon the island because the island made dinos stronger
and they couldn't control these new dinos
They made the strains though...
and then they got out of hand
iirc earthquake released the strains
yep
Looks like V3 has an abandoned train station
but this brings up a mysterious question
Why was a train station in construction in the first place?
The tracks were removed temporarily due to spline issues I believe. Though I had a theory there could have been some form of underground transportation system given that one of the trails near the docks leads to a cave.
Or maybe somebody at AE really liked trains and was like "trains are easier than cars. Let's make them" and nobody argued with them
What I want to know is where's the train
Trains are cooler than cars
i like trains
dude same
any news ? about the isle ?
i mean
This is not the place to ask, you want #401464048610312195
Cargo would be unloaded from the port onto the trains, which would transport the materials to the various facilities located on the island, looks like they stored some of the train cars at port as well
Crap, now I want to see some cool railways on the map
train is getting chased down by hyper rex
I'm imagining playing as a cute little dryo or something and then you get squashed by a train hauling secret materials or something
well, nows the time to check v3 for treeless areas that are trainway-wide huh
I'm doing a thing, where I'm building up the entire corporation behind the Isle, this whole AE stuff. And then doing stories of specific dinosaurs, etc, communication within the company, stuff like that. If anyone has theories to share that might work well, lemme know :D. Also idk where to post my shit XD
I guess fanart may work, if not either here or other
Thanks for the help o7
there is something
do they treat the hypers cost efficient
since from what i can tell
they feed hypers which have a high metabolism instead of killing them and only using for test purposes
which means the cost to produce the hyperendocrine strain for dinos costs more than feeding them
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Hello, is this The Isle Discussion?
reminder that this channel is meant to be serious, pls keep it so
Ok
I'm honestly excited for the lore, My guess is that this is some kind of Site B But then again I don't know why tribals would be in Site B
I mean, there are multiple islands = multiple sites
lol
that would acutally make sense :o
hopefully you wont spawn at your home atrium
deino would be lonely af
Whatâs a good updated video for the lore of the Isle. Iâve only found some outdated ones that donât add up with what Iâve heard recently?
Well, to be fair, we really haven't gotten any new stuff since the old stuff, and all the "new stuff" is moreso people going back over the same old points with their own ideas.
Is it true Primal Carnage is part of the same universe? I have heard some people talk about it but i havent got it confirmed
From what I've seen, yes.
Operation inferno was targeted at Phoenix corp. which should be I believe PC, the door in transmission is from PC:E trailer
Exciting, is it something the primal devs har agreed on?
legally speaking, there's an agreement for The Isle to use certain assets and concepts from Primal Carnage. however, they could choose to ignore anything The Isle does and vice versa, it's not a joint effort.
Ok so just because that exists doesnât mean they are inner twined but itâs possible. The newer stuff Iâve heard from videos is that The Isle doesnât necessarily count PC stuff as canon in lore anymore. No idea the state of things currently and probably wonât know until after recode at some point.
PC is thanked in the credits, so there's that.
Was this in the startup of the isle, or am I delirious and dont remember seeing it?
One of tapwings drawing I think
check pinned and it might be in the isle startup thing
Iirc it was and should still be.
yeah the neuro speen dissection
I already saw that but since the lore is barely even touched itâs hard to be intrigued
its very intriging
Hm, because I swear it never was in my game, just yesterday started appearing. huh wierd
Maybe a foreshadow to the coming patch
It isnt, moreso related to the AE staff or whomever is dicecting the Nuero still dont have a full understanding of what they cooked up in the lab
ah i see, jurassic world lines
This isnât a patch foreshadow itâs been in the loading screen ages
Does anyone still have that picture of the hyper redwood tree
It was a concept art quite some time ago.
yea
You mean that tree inside some building or that stand alone concept art?
The concept art
It was a massive redwood tree artwork
I am wanting to share it to someone but am having trouble locating the artwork.
I know someone put a twitch clip of it somewhere lemme look rq
Thanks
@summer helm
Thank you Deino
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Its not quite what I was after, but it works for my purposes
I think I know which you mean, it was huge tree that looked like "made from dino corpses". Sadly it's somewhere deep in this forum
I tried to track down that colossal tree with a hyper spino standing next to it, looked like a damn gnat. I can't find it though. :/
It was in announcements
The one place I didn't look. Solid work, Stan.
absolutely massive
very
Good work Stan
there was a video a while ago about how people heard gunshots / fighting in the loading screen, what do you guys think?
i just realised the hypo spino for scale holy shit
At least it'd be a good landmark
Omg you made me look for the hypo spino and oh my lord I canât even fathom the size of that tree lol
My brains to small to think about that
Yeah canât wait to see those
next time dont ask these questions in here, (probably isle-discussion the place to go) and no idea.
oh shit wrong channel
meant for that to go in discussion lmao thanks for saying smth
I do have a Theory about the Magna Raptor.
And I would say It's real.
Do someone want to hear It?
ok, go ahead
Okay then.
So when I found a File named "Magna Raptor" I actually was thinking. What If they did tooked the Magna Rex DNA like In Jurassic World and put It on the Utahraptor to use the Magna Raptor for War or for defence.
I might be wrong though.
If you asked me how did I found the File, just the Newest Bryan Stream was opening something then I did Screenshot It. I just share It on Isle Discussion only, because I'm scared of being banned or whatever.
I can show the Screenshot again.
Manga utah is a thing
We know about the magna raptor
Weâve seen it
It has a model
Now weâre both confused
Go to Isle discussion.
You can post it here
Itâs to do with the theory so itâs ok
My bad.
As long as itâs nothing random
You can post here if it isnât a meme or unrelated to isle lore
But yeah what did you wane talk about it?
War and defence wouldnât make much sense just because of the upkeep
Iâm still not convinced regarding whether magna was created or happened naturally
Will, It just a theory.
I thinâ the callouses is the source of the actual hypo strain
But i think the hypos were made
While I was thinking manga just happens natural due to idk callouses doing something or something happening to it
What about the Tisso?
Callouses?
I kinda liked the Tisso.
Yeah Iâm stupid
Callouse Is a big boy can kill a Hyper.
Then probably starve to death
Well colossus I donât think is made
Might have been actually
Donât think we know too much on the main three
I would hope tisso is still the stealth boi
My favorite was Tisso. It's the class that have fast Dinos and small Dinos.
And can mimic other dinos
Tisso was stealth, neuro was smarts and emp and then hypo was big strong
I like the Idea that every Type has his own thing.
Neuro controls weather too
I think the Magna Is just something.
Regular Dino to me but more Stronger and maybe got created by the Humans.
I mean they donât like hypos
just because it went to eat some hyper doesnt mean it hates hypers
It looks so close to the Primal Carnage Rex.
thats like saying tiger hates boar cuz it eats boar
It has some different atleast.
lore wise its B -443 which i feel is a Gen 1 Magna rex
the pc rex u play as in pc:e or pc
What was B-442?
i heard someone say it was another rex
Oof.
the rex catscan of B - 443 shows up on the trex screen
nvm it doesnt
bUUt
let me try read what that little words below the rex pic
ah yea there it says B - 443
speciam was approved
so yea the trex in pc:e is B - 443
If the Magna Raptor reveal his Design. What would he looks?
magnaraptor is the raptor u see ontop of truck when u click the isle and press play
A buffed utah
It's kinda looks the same to me.
its barely a bigger raptor
size wise
allo would be able to kill it going off its size if it matters
But why then the Magnarex looks different then the current Rex?
Do Dondi confirmed that or someone did confirm that?
confirm what?
That's In the banner Is a Magnaraptor?
its been said and agreed on
I might going to not agree on that but at the same Time I kinda agree.
To me, the size Is the same size of the Utahraptor.
Doesn't really make sense to me If that's the Magnaraptor.
hyper utah is allo sized
magna has to be smaller than allo then but is bigger than utah
Or a little bit close to the Allo size.
I think you have a point but I still going to stick with that not the Magnaraptor because It's not really confirmed to me yet. So I don't want to be rushy at the answer.
Just going to wait and see.
The waiting Game.
wait let me get u somwtrin
Oki Doki.
I remember this Old Banner, It's give me some old memorys.
thats magnaraptor
The Tail Is a little different, and the look Is the same of the Raptor.
Even If It was, It MIGHT change In the Future.
I think you got me there.
I just wonder, why does hyper utah have 4 sickles
and overall novaraptor project was going for as big of a sickle as possible
Going to be hard to move with It.
"a six inch retractable claw, like a razor on the middle toe"
Wasn't there something about hyper Utah opening doors with its double sickle... ?
not with it's double sickle but yes it can open doors
"a six inch sub, filled with tremendously good cheese slices and turkey. also with good veggies kids, never forget those."
Apollo Engineering
so they made all the dinos?
well not really. There is also Phoenix corporation (from primal carnage universe) from which AE aquired assets during operation inferno
oo so lore crossovers
cool
where can I go to find lore about this Apollo Engineering
document + page in pinned messages have most of what we know, and there are also vids on ytb.
ĂŚ
Before I joined this server I always thought it was an Ă smh. I love the lore though, an excuse to not make the dinos realistic
Is there any lore yet on why the islands got tribals?
AE also does human experimentation
most likely the tribals are an experiment to see how humans would react to a primitive environment with dangerous predators
the cannibals are tribals that have been experimented on
i believe
@ivory acorn As far as we know, the indigenous could have been there long before AE began. The Island could have a dark history that AE was never aware about but the Tribals were. But since The Isle takes place in modern times, tribals could have seen their work as god-like so they worship them
does anybody have a nice AE logo
i guess that'd work
nvm
i need an actual AE logo image
square would of been better but still good, ty
Isnt there connection between Echidna and tribals?
Echidna is speculated to be the Mother Cannibal, meaning she could be the reason for the obscure entity we've been shown were cannibals but were wrong. Though Tribals and Cannibals are the same thing. They are both relatively human like but have different anatomy possibly due to Echidna.
Just edited this to compare the two.
I think they are the same but the Cannibal Is more like something a little bit different.
Like In Aliens I guess?
Tribals are cannibals the same the guy on the left technically doesnât have a name
Echidna looks more like a cannibal as in the left guy
So the left guys are echidnas children I assume and then tribals might be things that AE tried to create
they did say they wanted to remodel the cannibal iirc
@pure tulip cannibals are human experiments
AE experimented on tribals and made cannibals
i believe
Great to know.
Which ones we talking about
No
is the name technically wrong? sure
Yah
should we still use it because it's the only name we've been given? yes
Ok?
when will be realised ? recoding new game ? i belive early 2020 ?
almost any dinos are "updated"
Recode Is a Rebuilt for the Game.
Also, new Dinosaurs too, but I don't think It will come with the Recode.
And I do have the proofs.
Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012
Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.
Released July 23rd, 2018.
Replicate. https://t.co/IfNeR7PMJV
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It's really Old.
cannibal is just mutated tribal
Ainât cannibals made npby enchidna
the echidna was made by AE
Since there its kids or some shit
therefore AE technically make all cannibals
because they made the original cannibal
idk
What about the Mother of the Cannibals? Isn't she also got made by AE?
mother of cannibalse = enchidna
i'll repeat the same old theory; the 'standard,' orc-man looking Tribals are the unrefined early attempts by The Replicator/Echidna, created from a basic and mostly human genetic stock
when this stock has gone through a certain amount of experience and action, reaching a natural limit to its development,, it is sacrificed to The Pit in one of the cannibals' ziggurats, willing or unwilling, living or dead, cast into the dark and recycled by the tendrils of something
from there, it is successively reincarnated with more and more inhuman development, per the Tier 1-2-3 cannibal concept art
when reincarnated under certain circumstances- namely, with Strain material on hand at the time- what ends up spat out is not a cannibal, or a big uruk, or a Doom-style mountain of meat chainsaw jockey, but something cleaner, more vicious, more specialized
that being the eyeless ur-cannibals, and perhaps the old Strain mascots
ooo I like that one
can i add that the human stock wasnt tribals, as the islands (iirc) did not have native humans on them. however, we do have a disappearing act on our hands: the rich buisnessmen invited to the island by the suspect creating human atrocities - AE.
Well, this only floats if i am remembering correctly, the fact that scientists as well as buisnessmen, rich people, ect were invited to one of the islands as a hotel for them was mentioned. and... theres not exactly any other mention of buisnessmen, though theorhetically someone needs to fund the science, hire the mercs, ect so it may just be an unimportant but convenient thread. again, i should reiterate, im not certain of if what i heard was even canon
AE created tribals as a strong-arm against funders who were lured in by the scent of medical money, but are unaware of AE's monster-making agenda and are strong-armed into staying or else.... well, be mutated into a tribal
that or dissenting scientists, mercs who grew a heart, blabbermouths ect
seems awful convenient to have a way to turn someone into a jibbering jungle troll and not use it to suppress your enemies
That isn't relevant to the topic of this channel @trim comet and @karmic geode
I know sorry
Btw why did AE create herbivores? Like doesnt seem like there's much point
10 pounds of cow meat makes 1 pound of tiger meat sorta deal imo
but then why dryo
cow meat for the smaller fellas
maybe
also for the people too dangerous to put into something dangerous
Failsafe for hypos? You mean that a gang of angry dryosaurs can take out a hypo?
That's the weirdest interaction I've heard so far. I love it
i still remember when someone actually figured out where all of those were and related them to fossil sites. that was impressive.
well i might aswell start something with this tommorw
Wait have people figured out more stuff?
Cleaning up off topic chatter
so whats with not being able to find any dinosaurs found from finland
one of the dots comes from finland
so Giga and Carno were in Argintena
but the closest dot to there is the dot in Chile
"Researchers at Luomus are studying the plants and animals in Finland and the world and the ways they are related, and they regularly find previously undiscovered species in Finland"
From here: https://www.helsinki.fi/en/support-us/funds-and-campaigns-you-can-support/we-work-for-the-diversity-of-nature
No idea if that means dinosaurs or not, but apparently they are finding something over there
but in case the dot has been slightly misplaced, Norway and Sweden are neighbouring countries to Finland, and here's a list of dino-finds in Scandinavia that actually includes tracks attributed to Dilophosaurus:
https://worldofprehistory.wikia.org/wiki/List_of_Scandinavian_dinosaurs
I guess the dot might be linked to the HÜganäs Formation in Sweden?
This is a list of dinosaurs whose remains have been recovered from Scandinavia. Prehistoric Scandinavia
Only finnish fossil digsite I found was Ă land but thats ordovician era
And overall fossils in scandinavia are rare because glacier swept most away
yea i went to that list before raven
there was also a dot on norway
but its at the faroe islands
Oo
there was a few plateosaur finds in Norwegian waters, but the FÌrø islands is not something I'm familiar with, will see what I can find about what's been found there
have a copy of the pic we're talking about? I don't
Its in pinned
Hellshades doc
Near bottom
Cant download the image itself from phone :/
ill get it
oh yeah, that dot is placed in the UK somewhere, Scotland by the looks of it?
would be kinda cool if it's possible to link every dot to a species ingame đ
i cant even copy it
I would say Newcastle area
the one in UK is prob Baryonyx right?
looks like it could be something like that, maybe a tad further south, but pretty close
Newcastle has dino museums
Newcastle is known for Dippy the Diplodocus
Also thats svalbard
I believe
There were found some tracks
First they thought it was carnivore, but them ornithopod
thats the dots where some of the dinos lmaybe lived it would fit
Someone has linked them all to digsites supposedly
Anyway, it was supposed to be 4legged and have claws which confused them
Otherwise ichtyo and plesio were found
Where is that?
docks
It is??
it broke obviously
on the side of that huge building
Which huge building?
Oh I never noticed something on the side of it
It's actually kinda fun to think about those mutated trees possibly being added with this new jungle biome. It would definitely be the next step towards this game's premise. We have the strainosaurs, now we're just waiting to see plantlife with strains, and likely at the end of the line, humans.
It definitely feels like this game is due for some new lore based content. We're getting a lot of new stuff for the genre, but not a lot for the story.
I'd definitely have to guess that the next step is strain vegetation, either in the form of those old blue glowy plants herbs used to eat to boost themselves, or straight up monsters.
I'm pretty sure they're gettting added with the redwood biome, they look too tall for jungle trees
Well, there's a lot the devs are hiding
Too tall for jungle trees is putting it lightly
1 is like 20 times the height of a hyper spino
And you're right to think they'd be included in the redwoods, as the redwoods were a test designed to see if these mutated trees were even a possibility
Or around there at least
Though, that's not to say there shouldn't be some toned down equivalents in the jungle
We've recieved a plethora of new tree and foliage assets, some of which I imagine were kept off stream
What better time to introduce something like this than during an update that overhauls the plantlife as a whole
Having smaller versions in the other biomes would scare the living **** outta me, having to look around not just for other creatures but plants that eat you would really make it a horror game
I'd definitely bet on their being some behind the scenes plantlife that may or may not be infected with strains.
Given we haven't even been shown what plants will be edible and the like
There's a high possibility that there's still a lot to see
everything is possible for sure, if its rare its more fun
Just keep in mind how old the concepts are. They've been on the shelf for a long time, so now not only feels like the best time to introduce them, but a wonderful chance to display how versatile these strains are, and the variety of plantlife they can infect
yes agreed but i feel like we are overthinking this
We might not see the exact strains displayed in concept art, but never the less I'd bet on their being a high chance of somehing of the sort existing.
the strains on plants could just be a experiment to see how effective it would be, i wouldnt suprised if there was more darker stuff than this going on
Dondi even mentioned anticipating being able to add all the new human structures to our new map. I imagine we're likely to find these new strains somewhere in these new human areas.
I doubt they'll be as incomplete as the ones on V3 this time around.
Not to mention, Dinosauriac even poked at the idea of their being those special bushes again during Bryan's stream.
Something for us herbivore players to fight over, something so good its actually worth dying for.
queue Acts of God (The Isle OST)
I like that music
Herbivores may truly be getting nerfed heavily to the point of not being a worry post recode, but I assure you, judging based on the previous power levels for these plants, eating one of them will probably exempt you of said rule.
starts playing on a server without pack limits as a 10 rex pack and you're chasing 2 trikes, all of a sudden they eat something and turn into godzilla-trikes
Yeah... not to that extent, but I think you get the idea lol
I think it's most likely going to increase your rate of growth for the duration of an effect, possibly having a strange power boosting affect on already fully grown herbivores
Like a drug
It does beg the question with whether or not the effect will be permanent or not.
Not being permament but more like a serum that last like an hour, would be a great addition, also maybe a some sort of transformation
From normal to strain and back
Given the description we've been given for these plants, I don't know if such a limited time for the effect would merit killing each other for.
But I also have no clue what the power level for these plants would be.
Previously the blue glowy plants just bumped you up a growth stage or something to my knowledge.
Which in a sense is a permanent effect, but I wonder what effect it would have on dinosaurs who already reached maximum growth
Also, redwood was a test for the strains wasnt it? Dondi in the horror plants clip said something around redwood test being a success
Yup, I mentioned that. That being said, redwoods as a whole were a test. Assets and all. We're finally getting tree assets specifically designed for The Isle. Meaning that the new strain plants might not look exactly like they did in the concepts. The concepts being based upon redwoods and other pine like trees.
We're probably seeing an entirely new environmental direction for the game, as we've previously had no reason to believe the game was suddenly going to be set in such a tropical environment.
I can totally see the skins of dinosaurs, tribals, and their aesthetics taking a very different direction.
This new jungle environment has heavy implications for the overall aesthetic this game's going to shape into.
Tho from story standpoint, why constantly move assets around
Especially through different enviroment
Unless they always replicate a new batch
Well, the Isle is a very blank canvas in a lot of ways. It's still very early in development, and has a lot of wiggle room with how they want to change their designs.
The concepts stay mostly the same, but subtle differences to keep things thematically matching.
They probably haven't moved their assets around. This is probably just what Dondi decided he wants the game's environment to look like.
Probably
