#isle-lore-theories
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If my power wasn’t flickering I’d send a pic of the Atrium B sign
Atrium A was PC-TheFalls or something yup
i never took a pic of B but it was the aquatics labs
ATRIUM B LADS
The music from the preview arguably resembles some of the old PC ost
Oh and as for it's location on the Falls there's a large gate that used to have 2 signs, one for atrium C (which is is clearly several miles down the tunnel because C is in the mountains) and another for atrium B, which appeared to be the smaller dome visible from the map, but the B sign was removed at some point
And B housed Kapros and Kronos Liopleuros
Liopleurodon
aight ye
yeah it's been gone for a while so i assume it means that smaller dome isnt b but like a fishery for the Pteras and Tupas
the aquatics lab poofed and i think AE might of poofed it
Oops
This will sound stupid but is the new map they are working on a map that was the aquatic map???
Where Atrium B is
Because the maps we have now have no aquatic looking place.
So I wonder if the new map is an islan they used for aquatic testing
Atrium B could potentially be on the map somewhere, maybe near the open ocean
True
If Atrium B is on Hope
I think it might be on another island
then we have a few things hinted at/confirmed
then C and A could be there too
So the new map is Hope?
yes
Ah ok
well, that's what we call it atm
Oh
And it kinda has 2 islands
A big and small separated by deep river/ocean
So normal dinos have to try and cross without getting killed by the aquatic dinosaurs
Depends on what is on the small one I guess
True
We should prob move this to #401464048610312195
Because its not really lore based
Well we are theorizing about the Atriums
There we go, there's that sign
cant wait to dive there
Interesting to speculate on kapro/lio and playables or ais
@barren kelp Are these signs official?
Yes, straight from the devkit of PC:E
The magna rex and atrium B being deliberately mentioned in 280 character tweet makes me think that PC and the isle might just be a shared universe, not to mention this tweet. But the tweet is from 2018, and just the word carnage was mentioned so it might be a stretch.
iss that a lioplur0don
yes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583035284401422336/600304295828652065/MenuCarouselFeed_Moment_3.jpg found this in some of the movie files of the game hopefully this is a semi preview of what the humans will look like
this is the hypo pue the true king of the hypo's
i'm pretty sure that's the old placeholder human model
maybe havent seen the placeholder for the humans yet anyway
Let Phase 2 begin
My theory simply is that Magnatyrannus, is simple explained an evolution, while Hyperendocrin etc, are man made strains. Lets see this as a virus, a virus that needs the exterminator, see this as that, magnatyrannus being the exterminator and the strains being the virus, if you're gonna say "bUt MagNaTyrAnNuS caNt kILl hYpO rEx" Maybe its not meant to, but maybe its meant to do something to it to make it less effective? or its not working (in this scenario the magnatyrannus dies.) meaning the exterminator doesnt work.
I think this has a lot to do with the lore, also doing something with Primal Carnage
I also think Primal Carnage: Genesis had to do something with the experiments they had in comparison with the isle, thus Primal Carnage dinosaurs having less stamina since theyre (somewhat) failed, but transfered some of the dinosaurs to The Isle's Ecosystem.
Shame Genesis never released, we woulda known way more then.
I like the idea of Magnas being a rapid semi natural evolution to counter strains.
^^
It could also apply to any dino at all, as they are all effected by strains being loose.
Yeah, my theory is that every Primal Carnage dinosaur IS a strain, just not a good one
But when transfered to Project: The Isle, they have adapted to the new ecosystem and have gained more abilities, thus becoming hyperendocrins, while some have stayed normal BUT, healthy, and having a whole new shape!
and those became evolved into magnatyrannus
It is implied that Magna strain is the perfected form of the Hyper. Assuming the reason they use the term “strain” in the first place is using some dna mutated virus, then that implies that magna ‘s virus is no longer fought by the host and the dna integrates much better
is that also implying that there are perfected forms of neuro and tisso?
I prefer the idea of Magna being its own thing, rather than just Hypo Mk2
Hmmm maybe they didn’t get time to test that theory before the others broke out
Also I keep hearing Magna isn't a strain, which could open it up to herbis
The Magna is more controllable than the hypos as it’s not constantly hungry
More better suited for weaponisation
Magna is literally described as the perfected Hyper strain... so unless new lore says otherwise, I’d consider it a strain. Could maybe argue that magna came from Hypers naturally evolving, however with how rare they should of been it wouldn’t be feasible. If anything it would maybe be a mutated strain
Is there a link to that info anywhere? 100% of the info I know on the Magna is from random people on the discord, so I don't have a clue what it true and what isn't. 
Main reason i'm hoping it's not a strain is that would be a loophole allowing herbis to have something like it.
Haven’t they said herbis aren’t getting strains?
thats if magna is a strain
True
yeah they've said herbis not getting strains, but i've also heard magna isn't a strain off a lot of people
which opened up the loophole of similar herbis to magna rex
but if it's just a hypo version 2 then it is a strain and that doens't work
Also it sounds like hypers and magna are being reworked and possible that magna isn’t playable, we don’t know
i'd almost rather magna was playable than hypo. it looks a lot more balanced
The magna’s original purpose I believe was to tie primal carnage and the isle together
Magna is killable by things other then starving out, unlike hyper's
we never really saw its stats, all we know is it does still need to eat quite a bit (at least a shant size meal) and that it has a chance to kill hypers
and somthing like magna rex trike equiv could also provide balance
jumping magna-carno
What if the Aviary is a battleground were you can fight the hypo thing and the other alien creature or what their called. And if you killed it with your group you can eat from it and become hypo,neuro,... version of your dinosaur?
yea like that would be fair for a pack of utahs fighting a hyper utah
though
that makes me think of something
what if they used the aviary as like a battle arena and tourists could see this happen
because i remember in the documents i saw something about tourism evacuation
So you're telling me The Isle is Jurrasic Park with extra steps
ALL ISLAND VISITORS MUST WEAR ID TAGS AT ALL G... TRACKING ERROR, PLEASE ALERT AE SYSADMIN. CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037, RE-SEQUENCING... WELCOME TO THE ISLE.SYSTEM READY. WELCOME TO THE ISLE.WE SUCCEED WHERE NATURE FAILS.DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END- LOCKDOWN PROTOCOL IN EFFECT. CHECKING ALL SYSTEMS.
AE-IPS-673
EXECUTIVE HELIPAD
EXECUTIVE HELIPAD IS RESTRICTED TO THE BOARD AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ONLY. PERIMETER GATE CODES BETWEEN THE AIRFIELD AND EXECUTIVE HOTEL IS (4 LETTERS). THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE LIFTED ONLY IN THE CASE OF EMERGENCY PROTOCOL (6 LETTERS) (5 LETTERS).
the fact there is a HOTEL
and u can visit the island
It’s an executive hotel... not a tourist one
So it would be AE management/board plus government personnel
Lol yes... but I’m guessing not anymore
i wonder how they set that up
does anyone have that old map of v3 that had like railway system and all
ive noticed gen 1 and gen 2 of hypers
i wonder if unlucky enough u will get gen 1 instead of gen 2
Huh?
Atrium C has a similar 'breakout' spot (although it isn't in the current build of Primal anymore? wack)
theoretically, if alfie did escape/attempted to, it would've been there
A stretched pitch black ptera version of him, but indeed
ok so
AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS
ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.
Atrium C is only for land type H now
because quetzal decides to fly away and escape the pulse i assume
and from what ik they have a board in the control center room
id assume they tried to kill it but it escaped
but that board in the control center talks about the quetzal that escaped
If it didn't break out the glass it probably just walked out the tunnel where vehicles can enter
Same as whatever else was in there
well
when u load up the map
getting into the facility is fully shut
and ik with the lockdown system it stops the hypers from going into the tunnel
alot of the places had doors
and remember that they would only be in the jungle area
the map is destroyed and before it was destoyed the bridges u can walk over would of been used to get to like the hatchy and etc
Well the fact that a quetz canonically escaped means there must've been a way out at some point during a breach
probably that glass
and when it escaped
they fixed it and changed it to only land hypers
since ithey wont be able to escape through the glass
I kind of wonder why we theorise around PC atrium. We didn't see that place in Isle yet, unless I missed something.
well
Atrium A is where hyper quetz first escaped from and Atrium C is where it escaped from again and got away
Atrium B holds the deinosuchus
and right below Atrium B is where neuromatics are held
Who's to say that Atrium C in PC and Atrium C in Isle are the same Atrium? 🤔
There could be multiple Atrium's following the alphabet structure
pretty sure they are
and the storyline for the hyper quetz makes sense
there is also a board in Atrium C in the control centre that writes about the quetz named Alphie which the hyper quetz is referred to as code-alphie
also talks on how novaraptor is a hybrid of other raptors
Still, why are we discussing PC? I mean both games are connected, and lore points that out. Also for all we know PC Alphie could be one specimen and Isle Alphie other specimen. We don't know origin of hypo strain, could be extracted from PC assets. Pretty much every strain could be obtained that way. We don't know.
We also didn't saw any place marked as Atrium on Isle maps. Beside v3, to be honest. It could be Atrium.
"why are we discussing PC?" "i mean both games are connected"
why wouldnt we discuss
thats exactly why we're discussing PC
i mean if hypers are kepted in a pc map
this here would of been used to kill any annoying hypers
100k volts
and that was it
bzzzt cooked
i never took a screenshot of the quetz but im assuming someone has it
if u go to Atrium A
the nests up there were alot smaller
u can see the little red thingys getting the zap up
idk if u can read it
but thats a camera
and it sayas to stay away from the windows
uhh this
yea
searched up "primal carnage alfie"
hyper quetz 0w0
although it looks like it has much more wing surface area than this
and thats why atrium C is only for terristial hypers and not big birdy over there
tbh it looks like the pterosaur version of a thunderbird
well its not really meant to be seen up close
btw
onto magnas
being a natural defense against strains
u know the way
the dinos in the isle
grow rlly quickly
well
i can see them going into these magna states if they get in contact with a strain and survive it
the window warning is because if you stay too close to the windows as the protocol goes off you get zapped
meanwhile the black alfie is just a 2d ptera model because why bother making an actual alfie model if a 2d cutout works the same
meanwhile that is atrium C, so the nest is/was Alfies, while Atrium A had the smaller pteras, which is why it has smaller nests
ive got some minor (it's actually kind of long) text about atrium C from the guy that wrote pc1's announcements way back when, but idk if it actually counts as canon anymore
Maybe he left something valuable behind, or just doesn't like you touching his fish.```
a snippet
Another thing isle and pc have in common 
Btw what does Atrium mean
"an open-roofed entrance hall or central court." The atrium theyre talking about isnt exactly this definition of the word but it works
Big glass dome thingy for things to live in
Atriums in dino world are basically the things pterosaurs live in
except Atrium C is modified to keep in hypers except the flying hyper escaped but shh
The fools
atrium C was originally for hyper alfie but after he broke out it was repurposed for land hypers
makes ya wonder why they never remade Atrium A
well atrium A was for normal pterosaurs in pce
could have been destroyed in operation inferno
was the aquatics lab destroyed in inferno?
and atrium B was for aquatic creatures and water testing the magnas
apparently not
since the new croc is stated to belong to atrium B
which makes no sense lore wise
ikr
unless operation inferno wasnt a literal inferno
but then why did things die and get destroyed
below Atrium B there was testing on neuros
where
the only other thing about atrium B apart from pce is that one of the loading screens mentions testing the water endurance of magnas there
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
beneath atrium B
ah right
doesnt exactly state if it means atrium B itself or some other area below it
true
atrium D mm
tbh
on Atrium A map
there was another Atrium on the hillside that you couldnt reach
could be C
for the original non hyper alfie
alfie's lore must be really interesting though
did alfie break out twice?
think so
yeah
he survived operation inferno, got turned into a hyper and then escaped
its also another confirmation that strains aren't born that way
what is it?
the fact that alfie became a hyper later in his life
ah
it means hypers are made by some sort of mutation and aren't birthed
either exposed to a certain substance
or injection
the top one seems more safe to do tbh
who knows
also
hyper plants
another great lore piece that was never expanded upon
since the hyper strain is applicable on reptiles, mammals and plants im thinking it's some sort of substance that can affect all 3
so a virus is unlikely
yea
no idea
we havent gotten any info that either
:/
we don't really need the recode for in game clues, a few transmissions would have been fine
except the last transmission was over 5 months ago 
ill take anything that isn't pce lore sauce
i want to know where the airfield and executive hotel are tbh
I want my Utah to sleep in a bed
Any theories on Deinosuchus release?
No. This is for lore theories, not release dates anyway. Expect it in the next 20 years.
I feel sorry for Alfie, if that is the case. Breaking out and being caught, over and over again for experiments and god knows what. all he wants is freedom
if the pc thing about him having reduced wing muscles is canon, that also sucks for him because he would've had so much difficulty escaping in the first place
well since hes been smooched into hyper form
im assuming he hunts alot of things easily and can survive as a hyper
reduced muscle mass for flyers in Primal was a justification for why they wouldn't just fly off over the ocean and start pterrorizing the mainland.
now that u said about reduced muscle mass and flying off to the mainland
i would assume
that the pterosaurs coming into the game including the hyper would also not be able to fly as long as normal
I wonder what AE hired the mercs for...
and i wonder if Phoenix corp also put mercs on the island
Probably not
problem is
the lore is hinting that they are working with each other
considering they use the same 3 atriums for animals
Working with each other? I thought they were working against each other.
They are?
but then AE has access to them
Huh
ik some AE personal were dead when hyper quetz escaped atrium B
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.
if u read the second last line
the loss of 2 letters personnel
2 letters = AE
And speaking of Atrium B, Deino's animation preview announcement says it's one of the many aquatic predators of Atrium B... are the atriums supposed to be different in-game maps or something?
Atrium B is aquatics lab
I see
which got destroyed in lore
ASSET RELOCATION
DUE TO THE COLLAPSE OF THE AQUATICS LAB, ALL ACTIVITIES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO BE SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. ALL VIABLE BIO-ASSETS AND PERSONNEL ARE TO BE ISOLATED TO SITE-(1 LETTER) UNTIL GEOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF (5 LETTERS) IS CONFIRMED. STRUCTURES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO REMAIN AS IS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE USE SHOULD ISLAND STABILITY RETURN.
So that means that the different playables aren't supposed to be living together?
So the atriums are testing facilities, and everything escaped them?
V3?
-Search Query-
AE System Directory
Site I-04 / AE---
depends
its a mix of thenyaw and region 2
Weird
Oh, yeah...
thats what started my theory that region 2 is thenyaw
both maps are the same size
Wait, R2 and Thenyaw aren't separate islands, so that kind of explains it...
WIND VELOCITY: NORMAL
WATER SALINITY: NORMAL
PRECIPITATION: NORMAL
SEISMIC ACTIVITY: PROBLEM
seismic activity
earthquakes and most importantly
volcanoes
And what does that mean?
i mean
ive no clue how a volcano or earthquake could change the islands look so much
ELECTROMAGNETIC FLUCTUATION DETECTED IN SECTOR 4
but then this also happened
So they were changed by earthquakes and volcanoes?
AE-AES-1073
TYPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
Type N were held under Atrium B
which remember got destroyed
DUE TO THE COLLAPSE OF THE AQUATICS LAB, ALL ACTIVITIES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO BE SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. ALL VIABLE BIO-ASSETS AND PERSONNEL ARE TO BE ISOLATED TO SITE-(1 LETTER) UNTIL GEOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF (5 LETTERS) IS CONFIRMED. STRUCTURES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO REMAIN AS IS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE USE SHOULD ISLAND STABILITY RETURN.
also look
ALL ACTIVITIES AT SITE (2 LETTERS)
site 04
well site-04 it says
and read the end
Why house Neuros underwater?
should island stability return
they werent housed underwater
they were housed under atrium B
atrium b was in water though right
So deep underground?
its says Beneath Atrium B
and neruos are in Sector 4
which is 8 letters if u add the space
which would fit in to what that says
ELECTROMAGNETIC FLUCTUATION DETECTED IN SECTOR 4
what could cause this Neuro
So the Neuros destroyed Atrium B with their powers?
but rmeember the island stability was thrown off balance aswell
but that is also possible
I hope we get more lore stuff after the recode...
Some information on the Tissos and the mercenaries would be really cool
and i feel like ive done such a good job tbh
You have
oh yea
i forgot 1 more
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.
u see the 11 letters
Hmmmm
its and odd thing tbh
but i thought Atrium Alpha would of been it
which is Atrium A
No, that doesn't make sense.
I think it's something else...
But I don't know what it could be
i know it has to do with the type H quetzal
and Atrium Alpha sadly is only to do with sm0l pteras
You mean Atrium A?
So Atrium A and C are for pterosaurs and Atrium B is for aquatics?
Wouldn't there be one for dinosaurs?
Atrium C is for large pterosaurs
Ohhhh
Basically anything from PC is assumed to have been destroyed in the Inferno Project
The Hyper Quetz escaped multiple times, no?
and remember Atrium C does have the power to kill them easily
the quetz
escaped once and then was put into Atrium C and turned into a hyper
then it escaped again
lol
and was never recaptured
I work under the assumption that PC is in the past, given the past tense of Project Inferno when relating to Isle
They screwed themselves over
Possibly
Do we know whetr the Tissos are kept?
Or at least a representation of it
Ominous Shadow
it flys over a map on primal carnage
Primal Carnage: Extinction?
its just the normal pteranodon model streteched
PCE yeah
but this is the hyper quetz
It's the map with Atrium C in the background
Sweet
what map is it
its swamp right?
Marsh
yea
The swamp one
I love The Isle's lore :3
i love figuring it out
Same
so satisfying xd
@grand sigil Same
Interesting that Alfie never strayed too far from home
Give him freedom
Then again, there's plenty of paras and iguanodons floating around the place
100k volts sure puts down any hypers owo
I wonder why or what the strains were created for
Weaponry seems a little too simple
For PC all the dinosaurs were created for war
the pc has a beta type of the magna rex
Neuros would be useful for that
In the Desert skins the description reads "bred specifically for desert warfare"
Hypers are hella risky
Tissos would be great for use in a night ambush
PC is the beta testing grounds for AE
It's either a sister company or a merged company
Dude AE is pretty fucked up but I'll still only play mercenary when it comes out lol
IE a phoenix rising from the ashes
So many great mysteries
Because a giant mutant dinosaur outbreak where you have to destroy the islands and the assets cannot be good for money
Maybe they're just on one large island
I imagine that previous region iterations can be considered non canon at this stage
Makes sense
True
Say, what happened to AE-001?
lore wise or community wise?
Like, the map.
Did it have any lore stuff?
other than free model vehicles
and some old structures
sadly no
if u want me to go guessing
i think AE used that map
for a training site for the mercs
since only 6 dinosaurs out at the time in the isle
mercs could train and get used to fighting off dinosaurs
JUST LIKE THE SIMULATIONS
and then eventually be sent to the big boi map
And speaking of the mercenaries, I wonder what they're hired to do...
And, of course, the origins of the tribals.
Well, they're experiments for one
yea
Is there proof?
other than mutations they can get
Tribals don't look human
and they eat each other
But how do we know they're experiments?
Yeah
Well, there's the link to Mother
Strain Mother, humanoid
Echidna
Ye
INCIDENT REPORT TRANSCRIPT 32: PART 2
“...LEADING UP TO THE COMPOUND ITSELF. UPON REACHING THE STRUCTURE, SPECIMEN (7 LETTERS) BEGAN PACING. WE EXPECTED THE SAME TYPE OF RAGE ONE WOULD EXPECT FROM ANY AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL, BUT IT WAS SUBDUED,FOCUSED, AND CALCULATED. SHE WAS THE MATRIARCH, AND NO ONE WAS TAKING HER OFFSPRING. NOT HERE. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.”
thought u meant the matriach
Aren't they the same thing?
Agh
and has offspring which i assume is anything that has her dna put into it
my theory is they used matriach dna for strains (not magna)
Matriarch evolves
Is Echidna the right spelling?
true
Never mind lol
Tapwings picture for the matriarch is great
It's beautiful
ik this image is a bit dopey but
i feel this is a beta version of the magna
and when the hypers escape
they modify this and turn it into a magna
or make it into a better magna
which is the obv combat the hypers
well this makes me sad
aparently
Site I-04
is V3 aswell
the offical isle utube
says the youtube videos below are footages of Site I-04 inhabitants
1 video is of v3 which is the hyper carno one
and 2 is of thenyaw
and another by v3 there
and list goes on since u can move the arrow
welp theres that thenayw and region 2 theory out the window 00f
well then
that clears up alot of this i guess
which im assuming it all takes place in the same map
hey what about the last transmission
wdym
what one?
the other side of the door transmission
can someone get it for me oof
yes that one
its literally in #transmissions @sleek temple
never checked there
gotta be honest
i feel like that has something related to neuros
anyway, its speculated to be the same door as the door in the primal carnage genesis trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-2cYYARR8
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Hey has anyone else noticed a very quick flash of red text beneath the main menu recordings of dinosaurs ?
i think thats the "system requirements" message that shows your computer can run the isle
Reminder that this channel is for lore discussion, not idle chatter.
speaking of primal carnage and the isle being related, there's a special thanks to primal carnage in the games credits now, that all but confirms it.
There is?
Well they are the same thing
ja same door as that last transmission
The isle is a Jurassic park like scenario and failed but as time goes on humans figure out time travel and strange new technologies to try on the creatures and study them once again
Boom I’m smart
My idea is that AE was a subgroup of Phoenix that tried to take over and succeeded and started modifying what Phoenix had already done (project inferno)
The devs must be laughing in their seats at all our ideas
It seems like people pop in here spitting ideas about things we mostly have some idea about because they haven’t looked around at the current lore sources themselves...
I’m assuming hope is I-04
Site I-04 has Atrium B on it
V3 was I-03, we had AE-001/002
Which one?
Offical
i get they are just youtubers videos
but it makes it sound as if all the maps are just site I-04
Hmm that’s true
I only recently began digging into the lore(as in yesterday), but my opinion, with the need to make a "perfect organism" and the transmission "Strip away everything that makes a man and you can rebuild him in any image." I think that AE wants to create a substitute for the human body, a perfect body with the mind of a human
but why would they test it on dinosaurs?
They are loading human consciousness into dinosaurs
And I suppose “nudging” those minds to do what they want
We don’t really know why they are doing that... nor what happened that lead to the hypers escaping and basically abandoning the island
We know there is something remaining (AI/human) running the island via the replicator
Atrium C is on hope aswell?
I’m more inclined to think it’s an AI but I could be wrong
If everything was on I-04 and Hope is that island, then I suppose it would
except Alphie who escaped
I'm pretty sure it's an ai with the user inquiry: and all
Alphie escaped more then once
Right
second as a hyper and never got recaptured
And Echidna is MIA
what i wonder is where the tissos were held at
well then lets discuss magnas
magna rex and magna raptor
and them type m aquatics tehy expeiremnted on
if i remember
both rex magnas were killed in project inferno
but samples were recovered
The specimens were but not the routines or samples
I think there was only one Rex and one raptor
correct me if I'm wrong because, I've only recently dug into lore here, but wasn't there B443 and B442? weren't both of those rexes?
thing is
the island went unstable
but what isalnd
site I-04 went unstable
what what is site I-04
also
not all of Atrium B is aquatic
pod 4 is the only aquatic part
and then neuros are somewhere else
Remember at one point quetz and pteras weren’t in the same atrium
Atrium A holds sm0l pterosaurs
Atrium C was MEANT to hold Large ones but turned into a hyper containment
land hypers to be exact
Maybe atrium B had human subjects?
YPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
TYPE-H SPECIMENS
TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES HAVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.
^ this is old since it doesnt contain Carnotaurus
though this is interesting
Carnotaurus TYPE H
So echidna was atrium B
and neuro spino
and neuro carno since thats also offical
id assume they would have to be kepted apart by a bit since they might mess with each other
so
when it comes to testing
they are taking out of Atrium C and put into their respective testing areas
for Carno its the southern Plateau
and for Utah its the east valley paddock
might be because they are small and are easier to contain
But does that mean a fenced area or into the Wild on the island?
we could get the hope map up and look around for these areas
east valley paddock
means the utah is in containment
but southern plateau
But there is no locations on Hope yet so we don’t really know...
we can guess
1 is south and 1 is east
though then again
they could of been near for all i know in 1 big containment area
AE-BLS-2048
UTAHRAPTOR
ALL UTAHRAPTOR STUDIES ARE TO CONCLUDE IN EAST VALLEY PADDOCK. (6 LETTERS) HAS NOTED VARIABLE NEURAL RANGE OF GEN-1 SPECIMENS TO BE NO HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE GOAT. SINCE SITE-(4 LETTERS), GEN-2 SPECIMENS HAVE SHOWN NEURAL VARIABILITY TO RIVAL HOMINID INTELLIGENCE. CLEARANCE ELEVATED TO LEVEL 3 SINCE TYPE-H (12 LETTERS) INCIDENT. CODE HADES-(5 LETTERS).
any of u got a good guess to what the last 5 letters are
the five letters will be... something
P̷ha̴s̶e̴ 2 ̵e̷r̸r̴o̵r̶.̵ Deploying v̷er̶s̸i̸o̴n̶ ̷0̸.̸1̷.̴5̶1̷.̵1̸ Y̶͐̚o̵̎̈u̶͋͆r̶͌̃ ̴͗̈reality may b̵͚̌e̶̓̏cò̶̕m̷̃͑e̴̾̏ t̸̀̋e̷̗̔mṕ̷̂o̶͑͊ř̶̕a̶̋͌r̵̽̽il̶̼̈ỳ̷͆ u̴͓͗n̶͇̖sẗ̶̘̠aḇ̴̢̡le̸̼͚
"Your reality may become temporarily unstable"?
where did ya get that from
ok
so far all we can know for sure is that this had something to do with phase 2
And they got control of it somehow...
?
TRX 8443
i wonder wh0 this could be
SECTOR AT-C
-SEARCH QUERY-
AE SYSTEM DIRECTORY
SITE I-04 / AE ---
SYSCHECK
G/S ERROR
SELECT-
RNA V1.4
COMPATIBLE
IDENT
TRX 8443
REQ. VAL: N/A
Trex specimen b443
AE didn’t have anything until after inferno.. so unless they created another Dino from the b443 samples, they wouldn’t have had one
also U know how hypers have the insane metablism
unless they were testing 1 of them in Atrium C at the time of this error
i dont see how hypers could escape
They can escape, not sure how long they would survive
well we know which ones it cant be
carno and utah get tested somewhere else
so either rex giga or spino was getting tested at that time
Right
I wonder what happened with the diablo testing, the dryo and maia testing went perfectly, but there was an error with the diablo
And it rebooted... wonder if it came back up right? Is it based on Windows? 
ive noticed something odd
N̷͛̎O̶͌̌V̸̍̐A̸̓̓.̵͑̏ ̸̅̈Ǹ̷̟E̵̓̓Ȯ̶̏.̷̍͝ ̴̔͝M̸̌ͅÁ̸͒G̸͐̚N̵͊̀Ȧ̵̛.̵́̕
this wasnt given by the BOT of the transmissioner
it was given by a profile
Nova is gone... magna exists and neo no idea
isn't neo related to the word "new"?
neo-
/ˈnēˌō/
combining form
prefix: neo-
- new.
"neonate" - anew or revived form of.
"neo-Georgian"
Origin
from Greek neos ‘new.’
So magna is the new nova?
Between Hyper and normal yes
That makes sense actually
i dont feel like magna and hyper are related in that way
The magna was a failed attempt at the "perfect organism"
Think of magna as the Hyper just before it become unstable
perhaps the magna we've heard of is gen-1, the gen-2 magna is the new nova, and closer to their vision of the perfect organism
There is a perfect organism but we don’t know its name
pretty sure its the matriach
the hyper was too extreme, they couldn't deal with it, the magna came after the hyper I'm pretty sure
Magna is considered the “perfected Hyper”
Maybe Gen-1 is Hyper and Gen-2 is magna
Or
we dont know what magna is though
Hyper -> Nova -> Magna
perfected hyper was just speculation
thing is magna is meant to go through alot of changes
correct me if I'm wrong but didn't dr vega work on the magna?
Because we know he worked on the tissoplastic strain
I don’t remember, most I remember is a reference from MeatyLock’s summary
Most of my information came from third-party sources, from websites made from people who read the actual stuff
But I do wonder what is behind the door in the most recent transmission
It’s from primal carnage
He was at least involved... but there is the other tweet in transmissions about #carnageIsComing
That's linked with the one that says "Enter B-443" Perhaps B-443 is carnagels?
What is carnagels?
That's the big question now, I don't know
I’ve never heard of that
Y̸̩̖o̴̟͓ṵ̸̢̧ ̸̰̒ņ̷͔̰ë̴̩́v̶̨̮è̵͚̫r̴̨͓ ̴̠̰s̶̢̙ḁ̵̧̈w̵̗̭ ̵̖̥t̵͍́h̴͎̙e̴̮̋ ̴̡̧o̵̫̬t̷̞̟ḧ̷̘̺e̷̛̜r̵̩͎ ̸̨̧s̷͍̿ì̵̦̻d̶̪̙ȇ̵̼̯ ̷̻̥ő̴̬̤f̶̝̜ ̶̧̢t̸̺̽h̸͎͑e̴̺̼ ̶̨̀d̴̛͔ó̶̮͈o̵̱̻r̸͍̀.̷̟̬ makes me want to know exactly what is behind the door. Wild guess, but maybe it has something to do with carnagels, or some new creature or strain or something
I think Dondi followed up and said how do you know what side of the door you’re on?
As if the containment areas were really just keeping things out...
It's something to think about
What chills me is that Olympus transmitter said P̷ha̴s̶e̴ 2 ̵e̷r̸r̴o̵r̶.̵ Deploying v̷er̶s̸i̸o̴n̶ ̷0̸.̸1̷.̴5̶1̷.̵1̸ Y̶͐̚o̵̎̈u̶͋͆r̶͌̃ ̴͗̈reality may b̵͚̌e̶̓̏cò̶̕m̷̃͑e̴̾̏ t̸̀̋e̷̗̔mṕ̷̂o̶͑͊ř̶̕a̶̋͌r̵̽̽il̶̼̈ỳ̷͆ u̴͓͗n̶͇̖sẗ̶̘̠aḇ̴̢̡le̸̼͚ Your reality may become temporarily unstable. That makes me think of one of those movies where there are multi-dimensional overlords and stuff, now whether it's talking about actual dimensional realities, or the imagination, or the conscience itself, I don't know, but it's something I'll be looking forward to solving
it could just be referencing the patch...
or
its a reference to the way ur body is put into a dinosawr
and when they tamper with the system
it tampers with your screen
And none of this explains the connection between the screen static you find when near buildings and the buildings themselves, grrr I must find out
the static happens because every dino has a chip implanted in their heads through which the human consciousness is transmitted
there's a radio signal around the buildings that causes the static and is meant to make the dinos want to stay away from the human structures
I'm pretty sure that some time ago we come to conclusion that 1: Primal Carnage stuff is in past; 2: dinos related to PC were destroyed or captured for testing; 3: AE magna rex- All Father was created from samples of destroyed PC rexes
I'm pretty sure that places related to Primal aren't the same for Isle. It could suggest what's in Atriums on Island but as well it could mislead.
It's late but that 5 letter could be "Carno" because Hades is hypo carno
@wraith nova uhm is Primal Carnave set in the same universe as The Isle?
@icy onyx yes, it is. Apollo (Isle) stole assets from Phoenix International (Primal Carnage) and started taking the projects and experiments into different level.
is it possible that the dinos from primal carnage are the Type H dinos in the isle eg Spino
other than novaraptor
the others are most likely type M if we go off of how the trex from pc is a magnatyrannus
What is novaraptor?
@digital vale wait, so they stole them and housed them at like, the aviary/port/ect?
it's not known how AE acquired the assets, but they have/had them now
We do know, via operation inferno they raided the other company and stole them
I thought Operation inferno was the destruction of the Phoenix assets via groups A and B?
Stuff was destroyed in the process yes, but that’s how AE acquired everything
SithLord, Interesting!
Specimens b442 and b443 were killed during the operation but their samples and routines were recovered
well instead of stealing they could have just been routed to the differnt company though Phoenix
From everything I’ve seen it was a “raid” style op
you don't exactly want your war animals to be so rudely wasted
Operation Inferno was created by Phoenix to destroy the living assets and obtain unhatched/unborn assets, through mercenary groups. the higher ups at AE bought out Phoenix in collusion with Phoenix's chairman, and such allow them to acquire the unborn and destroyed assets
You know it's fun to speculate on things you find interest in and not ruin other's fun
I'm on break
anyway. tl;dr: phoenix merged with AE, then AE got the assets
Less stealing more taking advantage of a situation
kinda like The Isle and PC irl
art imitating life

anyways, it would be so sad to see the PC mercs' remains in the future
a stray flamesaw

didnt EA just go mess up phoenix adn stea there shit
oh god
Can we get a damn mod in here to shut this guy up?
Phoenix did the big bad by stealing fossils and grindin them up for that sweet DNA
Kicked.
Regardless you are breaking rules joking or not, this isn’t the channel for that
Thank you sky
EA when adn stole stuffs form phoenix
I’ll clean chat up in a second
We don't know entirely what AE got up to yet, right? other than them obtaining the assets
I literally just said what they did
no but the thing is
they bought out Phoenix
Yeah we don’t know the details of the operation, had to have been violent though. I believe the Dr allowed AE in though
Didn’t mean they bought them out
Oh damn my bad
Lawrence Carter is the CEO, the big main man behind Phoenix and their operations
AE raiding Phoenix with Lawrence Carter’s help and stealing the assets still fits
well maybe CEO is the wrong title, point is
Why would the owner of the company steal his own assets? especially when he sent in two mercenary groups to kill the living ones?
mention of "buying out" just reminded me of this gem.. https://youtu.be/H27rfr59RiE?t=29
Homer Simpson and Bill Gates buy out, internet, business
if they were letting them
Maybe he believes they have lost their way? Or weren’t ambitious enough?
Maybe his board of directors were going to can him? So he struck out of revenge?
We don’t know
and why would some assets be destoyed? if they were letting it happen
That’s why I believe a fight broke out, Phoenix was caught flat footed
Have you ever tried to steal from a lion? Now imagine that lion was 10 feet tall and mostly bulletproof
you odnt need to steal if its in a cage
I think the noises we hear on the main menu are operation inferno
whaat was phoenix letting there assests run around
They killed the live assets after stealing the samples and routines to hinder Phoenix from recovering. If they only had the living specimens they could of recreated their past work
AE is in the process of replicating the Novaraptor. If they were stealing assets, wouldn't it be easier to just steal a live one?
I'm afraid it doesn't add up
wait so an erathquake boke out and some how broke enclouses fit to keep shhit like hypos and dinos and thats why they dhad to destroy some assests?
Yes
Do we know Phoenix had a live one?
It would be easier to steal the dna samples and routines then trying to reverse engineer from a live specimen
As far as can be seen, Hypos, Magnas etc are AE's creation. the Phoenix dinosaurs were made for war, not whatever AE is doing
so how do we know there was an earthquake?
I believe b442 and b443 were magna rex specimens killed during operation inferno, IE Phoenix had them already
B442 and B443 were two of, well, apparently 443+ specialised T-rex's created by Phoenix. Whether the regular, Magna and Hypo rex's were based off them is unknown but likely
assuming the numbers correlate to the amount cloned
if so, a lot of them could have died before maturity or were unviable
B442 was just a skull after all
Also at some point Thronebreaker, Alphonse, and NovaRaptor were deleted
@hearty trout you should read that channel description
Apologies. I mean no harm.
I’m actually pretty new to the game/ lore actually. Picked the game yesterday. Is their a official or well made lore master list/ website?
pinned message has a Google doc with some of the things we know
"Meatylock", a youtuber, has some lore videos too iirc
Danke
His main video is linked under “Lore Summary” on the website in pinned messages
@mighty abyss
as you said earlier
i think they took dna samples for security as the dinos could wreck their mode f travel completely and ease of transport
think about it
whats easier to transport a giant monster dino
or a small test tube
wrong channel
^
Knew that xS
Then dont do it again. Offtopic here can get you kicked/banned
That was an hour ago dude
whats the lore behind tribals/cannibals
we don't know more than that they sacrifice people/dinos and worship some replicator-machine as a god
or, I don't know more than that atleast
interesting
Intedarasting
Can someone tell me what is Hope? Is it a new map with some lore?
this is hope
that's hope from what? 4 months ago now? 5? it would have changed a fair bit since then
yeah, because it was a month old when don first shared it.
or though from the last dev stream, it hasn't really changed much
I wonder if they would add dessert biome
And how will we travel to another island? We would probably drown or aquatics would get us
Or maybe the water can sometimes drain and we can cross over in some places
@icy onyx Its probably gonna be close enough to allow some things to try. Or have speckled mini spots of land to let things rest
otherwise they wouldnt bother having it there - there'll be some way for things to try to cross
I would love to see how things are going with the map
Nah doing just bridges would kill the purpose of letting aquatics ambush the land dinos
Land dino's would have to get into the open water for the gap to make any sense
:,) then aquatics would rule that map
Right here is a land bridge I think!
Since the darker blue is where you actually have to swim
This discussion is getting off topic for this channel, mates. I'd recommend going to a different channel
what is exactly the "replicator-machine"?
It’s what transfers your “consciousness” between dinosaurs when you play
has it been stated that it's the replicator who does this
We don’t even know if the replicator is actually entirely mechanical
Could be semi organic
coooool!
True but we know that’s what the replicator does
Idk
Is hope the new upcoming map?
Yes
wait do we know if the dinosaurs were genetically engineered or found on the island?
They were genetically engineered by Phoenix Corp and stolen by Apollo Engineering who owns the islands
ah
does anyone think theyll add a mechanic for dinos to co-op with humans , since they'll have 2 human factions the dinos can be neutural within the narutral blance of the isle , and the ones that do decide to co-op with them get certain perks like become a hypo from letting them experiment on ya
just something i thought about the other day
Cannibals/tribals can capture cpu or player dinos and force them to obey via pain
😮 i dont think i would be incline to murder things if i was forced into the partnership , that takes away from a dinos freedom 😦
whats the point of growing a rex if i can just capture one and use it to murder things
It’s a balance, but this isn’t really theory related 😛
xD
It’s true
^ What you said about torturing to tame them and to obey, wouldn’t that get abused if you can just kill any dinosaur you want without getting killed back because they would be in a cage?
Let’s say like you kill a dinosaur when hunting, then that player you killed asked their friends to kill you because they died.
The player still controls the “tamed” dinosaur so they could kill the human if they wanted
So, I'm convinced we have little to no idea when the events of the isle began, and even less on when it's currently taking place. The technology seems to be very bland and makes it tricky to predict when everything may be occuring.
I'm kind of curious if there's anyone that has a similar suspicion to my own. Its obvious Æ is ahead of their time, but to what extent?
The only real support to the idea that the events began in the future are rooted from their capability to create the genetically altered organisms we deem dinosaurs.
I'm suggesting its possible things occured in the past.
Possibly the early 2000s, or even earlier. Sometime in the 1900s.
maybe hear me out but what was the plot of primal carnage? that human mercs are fighting dinos. combine that with the theory that Æ is connected to it.
then what if Jurassic park too. how they wanted to militarize the dinos. that could explain why they were connected
I'm just going to assume this wasn't in response to my post
not really just convenient timing
why dos der come static wen u go neer the buildings
@merry quiver
Im pretty sure its means a camera is nearby for when they add humans so you know when youre being watched

