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neat steeple Apr 28, 2019, 8:14 PM

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If they can take your mind out of you and put it into something else then I’m sure they can put things into and take them out of your mind as well.

sleek temple Apr 28, 2019, 8:20 PM

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but i doubt its 100% perfect

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Its not, which again when i get onto my PC I'll post about

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All the evidence anyways

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Ok, I'm at my pc and will now post all of the logic and evidence that points towards the fact: Human minds are being planted into the dinosaurs, and no it's not a perfect process but there are things that fix that

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:17 PM

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This dudes writing an essay

woven nimbus Apr 28, 2019, 10:18 PM

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xd

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Honestly I am but there's been too much confusion on this so I'm putting out everything that we have confimred that relates to this topic

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which makes me retract that human minds being confirmed to be put into the dinos

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which I'll explain why in this thing

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Ok, here it is:

Theory: EIP's (human minds/control chips/something) are being inserted into the minds of the dinosaurs, and this is how they are being controlled.

- We are inserting EIP's (Embryo Intelligence Profiles) into the minds of dinosaurs to control them.
- There is an EIP inside every controlled dino's mind.
- EIP's may be human minds, control chips, or they may be copies of our minds in a sense.
- There has been no confirmation (I'm aware of) on what *exactly* an EIP is, we have only been told what it stands for.
- The Affinity System was implemented to prevent profiles (us/human minds) from acting unpredictably once put into the minds of dinosaurs by convincing profiles that what the Replicator/AE wanted was what the profile wanted.```

My Explanation:

*You can reference my evidence below, all taking from actual canon sources (console interactions and transmissions) for everything I'm about to state.*

I believe that each person has an EIP made for them and this is what gets put into the dinosaurs. We are controlling the dinosaurs via these EIP's. Do I think that they are literally the minds of people? Not entirely. We aren't entirely sure the specifics of EIP's and what they are. They could be control chips, they could be programmed genetic info, or they could be copies of our human minds, I'm not sure and neither is anyone else, as there has been no cannonical "An EIP is this" anywhere that I am aware of. While we play the game, when we go to chat as our *dinosaurs*, we hear keyboard clacks in-game. Someone (we) are typing out a message on a keyboard for that dinosaur to transmit to others. The deathscreen appearing when we die helps point towards this theory that we are controlling them through a screen. If we weren't, the world would fade to black before we got to pick our dinos again. We wouldn't see more info suddenly appear.

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However, this does not prove the simulation theory. In fact, I'm going to say that the transmission tweet points away from the simulation theory, since it literally says EIP's being put into the minds of dinosaurs. Computer simulations most likely are not going to code for a controllable pawn (the dinosaure) having a mind. There would be no point, especially if they could just override it with an EIP. Why create a mind for a dinosaur that you are going to get rid of anyways? Simple solution, the dinosarus aren't coded. x-files theme

The type from below is from recorded console interactions that are (probably) old and outdated, but they are the only source of this information still canon until said otherwise that we have.

They say that an EIP is an Embryo Intelligence Profile. It then says that there are 100,000+ profiles active including AE staff. Then a user inquired about EIP Status. The Console asked for them to input User EIP, and it returned that it was active. This means that there are profiles for each user, and that the profiles represent each user (user being owner of the game) in the lore.

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- EIP's are being created for every user (human mind).
- We have no confirmation as to what an EIP is. We know it stands for Embryo Intelligence Profile, but we have no idea what it is physically.
- EIP's (referred to as profiles) are being inserted into the dinosaurs. This is what gives users control over them.
- The tweet states EIP's are being put into the minds of dinosaurs, and that they couldn't get the profiles to behave how they wanted, so they implemented the Affinity System to convice them that what AE wants, the profile wants.```

```- Are human minds being inserted into the minds of dinosaurs? No. EIP's are.
- Are EIP's just a fancy word for human minds? We do not know. EIP's could be anything at this point, since there has been no concrete confirmation on what they are.
- Where's your evidence for all of this? In the below image taken from canon sources.

THESE RESULTS ARE NOT 100% CONFIRMED. THEY ARE THE CONCLUSIONS DRAWN FROM THE EVIDENCE BELOW AND ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY NEW LORE CONFIRMATIONS```

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There's your evidence. Go crazy

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:33 PM

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If I’m reading this correctly the rip could be a chip allows Dino control

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And if so that means that when you type the rip translates that into Dino

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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basically EIP's are being put into real dinos, not human minds being put into real dinos (maybe), and not real people controlling fake dinos.

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what do you mean by rip

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EIP?

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Yes

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Well, the EIP can be anything as far as we know. It's never been confirmed as anything yet, just the abbreviation of it

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I meant real Dino’s

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:36 PM

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It could be a chip that lets us control the dinos. It could be some magic genetics thing

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It could be something that literally links our minds to the dinosarus

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We dunno

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But, we do know that it's those being put into the dinosaurs

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and that we, the users, are controlling the dinosaurs from a keyboard and screen

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but no one wants to think about that last part honestly because I seem to have been the only person to really bring that into any arguments

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Ok

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What if the eip is some form of transmitter/receiver that is organic

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It would make sense because you can still “control” nested Dinos

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Probably developed in the womb because you can play as hatchlings

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Well, we can control nested in dinos, but they don't have any trackers. There is no "asset location" in the character screen. My belief there leads to me thinking the EIP isn't anything physical. See there's so many different directions and things to think about that we can't be sure on anything because literally almost nothing has been confirmed yet. Which is exactly what the devs want.

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I didn’t say that they could be tracked

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I never said that the trackers were organic

tiny carbon Apr 28, 2019, 10:44 PM

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well I know. But my thing is, if it's something physical and organic that they developed, then why not implement some from of tracking beacon into it? Surely it can't be that hard after everything else they've done

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If they know they can't put typical trackers into the babies, but they can still develop some sort of wireless control to allow them to be controlled not being brought from the replicator, then you think they would develop some sort of locational services to go along with it

narrow thunder Apr 28, 2019, 10:48 PM

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What if they wanted the nested to not have trackers

tawdry onyx Apr 28, 2019, 10:58 PM

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any theories on how long until we get humans?? this game is going to be AMAZING once theyre all done

maiden drift Apr 28, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I'll refer back to the thinking I was doing when I was on the fake sky trip a couple days ago and say the EIPs are injected through some kind of electric brain jacking.

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The auroras and the huge radio towers on each map are probably the most relevant parts of the system.

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The EIPs themselves are probably acquired through a wide variety of means. AE employees on testing duty probably get a comparatively cushy environment. Break periods between deaths, maybe even during sleep cycles, the like. The right to be shifted out of the division if they don't do so well within the Affinity system.

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Then, you've got the other poor saps, ranging from convicts to POWs to kidnapees, who are working under duress. You go in. You get a technical right to pardon for performance. You generally don't come out.

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Finally, there's shelved consciousnesses, brains in a tube. Might be stolen, might be clone profiles based on the other tester classes. Completely expendable, completely devoid of rights, completely illegal and unethical. The high paychecks stop most of the potential whistle blowers on this touchy subject. The kill squads, human or otherwise, stop the rest.

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All of the above are neurally jacked in through a computerized system, which bounces a sort of brain streaming signal up into the magnetosphere and back down again to the specimens respectively tuned to each EIP subject. This makes for a lot of great, plausibly functional and overly complex technobabble. Long story short, subject brain's link to body is suppressed, and then replaced by a link to the test body. The intimacy of a nerve system directly talking from body to brain is traded for brute force electromagnetic waves to compensate for the physical disconnect. This also means that player connection latency is strictly canon and analagous to EIP-to-subject latency, at least for dinosaurs and maybe tribals.

wraith nova Apr 29, 2019, 9:17 AM

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I'm intrigued by last screencap, asking system who else is here. I mean it could meant island itself and explain why some buildings are working, because if they eork remotly why bother to make structures that seem to filter water. AE staff could be still there phisicaly. Profiles don't really have to be there

sleek temple Apr 29, 2019, 4:53 PM

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well

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this interests me

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as mercs in the isle are actual human beings

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would it not be an act of murder to kill a real human being in a game like this as when u kill a dino ur EIP continues on

sweet zephyr Apr 29, 2019, 4:54 PM

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I doubt we have rights.

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We probably don't even ''exist''

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We as in the profiles.

sleek temple Apr 29, 2019, 4:56 PM

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i mean the mercs

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they have to be actual humans

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or it doesnt make sense for them to go on missions

mighty abyss Apr 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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It could be an Avatar (james cameron) situation where the mercs have "simulation bodies" so they can operate on the island and perform tests without having to actually die; if you can put human consciousness into a dinosaur, it should be able to put it into another human body

vague glen Apr 29, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I think it's fair to suggest that mercs will likely be tied into the reincarnation system as well. Whether they're paid or ex-convicts, whatever AE uses for dinosaur bodies, they'll also use for the merc bodies. That way you get bang for your buck; you know how merc forces will react when not experienced, and you'll see how merc forces will react when they live and die long enough to get experienced.

It's also a lot less costly to delete someone from existence (presumably after hiring/kidnapping them for this corporate black op type project) only once, rather than having to do it every time they die in an experiment meant to be as lethal as possible.

keen jasper Apr 29, 2019, 7:46 PM

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definitely very interesting

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so not necessarily human minds

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🤔

wraith nova Apr 29, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Mercs having their minds put into bodies that can be recreated is good point. Kind of makes sense when you have technology capable of "putting" consciousness into dinosaur, also allows more experiments

green crater Apr 29, 2019, 11:06 PM

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There some things in here I didn't even know were coming...

📎 Screenshot_20190429-141549_Chrome.jpg

twin vale Apr 29, 2019, 11:44 PM

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how do you know they are?

mighty abyss Apr 29, 2019, 11:48 PM

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~~playable coelocanth confirmed~~

opaque crane Apr 29, 2019, 11:50 PM

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some of this stuff could be just old and forgotten

left ocean Apr 29, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Honestly i can see Pelagornis being some form of flying ai/food for Pteranadons, from what I'm seeing in the pic

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 12:33 AM

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so these are the dinos that are not in the game:
Pachyrhinosaurus
Pelagornis
Primal Rex
Pteradon
Quetz
Rugops
Tarbosaurus
Titanoboa
Brachi
Carcharadontosaurus (misspelled most likely)
Catfish
Coelacanth
Compysognathus (what)
Corythosaurus
Deinosuchus
Magnaraptor

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^of my knowledge

opaque crane Apr 30, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Well i know for a fact tarbosaurus will never be added, so it's not really worthy of listing

outer dagger Apr 30, 2019, 12:35 AM

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quetz is in-game. deino, coela, catfish, ptera, and brachi are coming

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Quetz isn't, it was tho

opaque crane Apr 30, 2019, 12:37 AM

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i mean, it kinda is if you count dev-only dinosaurs as in game

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 12:37 AM

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true ture

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true*

left ocean Apr 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Honestly can't wait for Pteranadons

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that's gonna be so much fun

keen jasper Apr 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Tarbo is a joke

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Bryan took the regular rex and gave it flappyass lips

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's a joke

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Cory will prob be AI

left ocean Apr 30, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Compy might be ai as well

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 12:55 AM

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coelacanth, if its playable

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ill die

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i love coelacanths

opaque crane Apr 30, 2019, 12:56 AM

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thought they wanted it to be ai for the fishers

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 12:58 AM

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idk

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maybe

keen jasper Apr 30, 2019, 1:04 AM

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nnaaah

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as a joke maybe but nnnaaahhh.

timber trellis Apr 30, 2019, 1:12 AM

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yes

outer dagger Apr 30, 2019, 1:15 AM

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yeah it's fish ai

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was said somewhere in a stream, doubt i could find the clip though

icy onyx Apr 30, 2019, 6:51 AM

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@green crater Where did you find those files?

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 8:38 AM

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@icy onyx it's Brian's files from his streams. Also before anyone spreads rumors about tarbosaurus, that's a joke folder

wraith nova Apr 30, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Primal Rex might be files for rex from PC

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Magnaraptor seem interesting

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Small dinos like Compys are most likely ai food, probably same for fishes

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I do hate autocorrect with passion, sorry for typos, it turned on accidentaly

icy onyx Apr 30, 2019, 10:02 AM

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okay thx

placid harness Apr 30, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Primal Rex might just be the magna rex files.

feral pond Apr 30, 2019, 12:52 PM

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This is #isle-lore-theories. Take this current topic to #401464048610312195.

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For clarity, theories is about discussing lore of the game, not what dinosaur is coming next or will be playable. Further derailment will be met with removal from the discord.

digital vale Apr 30, 2019, 12:56 PM

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I remember theory that the Primal Rex (aka the big red boi from Primal Carnage Extinction/Genesis trailer, link down) is different name for the "Big Daddy" - I don't remember it well, but he was (probably) the first rex ever "made" and every other Rexes are clones of him

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-2cYYARR8

YouTube

GameNewsOfficial

Primal Carnage Genesis PS4 Trailer

Dinosaurs are back in this cinematic trailer of Primal Carnage Genesis for PS4 and PC ! Join us on Facebook http://FB.com/GameNewsOfficial & http://twitter.c...

▶ Play video

feral pond Apr 30, 2019, 2:50 PM

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@green crater Please see what I just wrote a post above you.

digital vale Apr 30, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Nevermind, changing what I wrote - so, some while ago the Primal Rex folder was "seen" on one of the streams and it's the original skin of the Rex from the Primal Carnage. The discussion wasn't about "Big Daddy" - sorry, that was my mistake, I forgot the original name, which I found is "All Father" - so, the All Father was Apollo's first attempt at creating the perfect organism, but the whole project failed and All Father escaped B433 (Growth Facility for All Father) and broke into "Hyperendorcin habitat" (and probably killed some of Type-H Rexes). He has something to do with the Magnatyrannus specimens who died during Operation Inferno, who were later transfered to "EIP redistribution" and were probably replicated into the All Father. This is the transmission what exactly replication is supposed to mean - REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE. PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE. So, the theory was that the Rex from the PC Trailer is the All Father, and maybe he'l be reused in The Isle.

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Also, the All Father isn't Magnatyrannus (well, he was replicated from those two MT specimens, but he was somehow changed to be "better" that them) nor the Type-H Rex, so... what exactly do you think he is?

wraith nova Apr 30, 2019, 3:58 PM

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All Father could be magnatyrannus that adapted better and maube changed/evolved quicker. Becoming perfect organism that AE tried to make

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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jokingly tossing this out, but hypo magna

ember flame Apr 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Kingjfadd made a good video about magna....

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 4:09 PM

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curb your islethusiasm?

ember flame Apr 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Yepper

mighty abyss Apr 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Project All Father was the PC Rex project, which lead to two main rexes, Big Daddy and another main rex

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Big Daddy was the basis for all the rexes produced by Phoenix, the other has very little about it

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All Father as far as I can remember wasn't an actual animal but the overlaying name for the animals created

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I remember Big Daddy, what about this other rex?

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doesnt seem to ring a bell in my head

mighty abyss Apr 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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B433 and B432

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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oh we just never got a name for the other one

mighty abyss Apr 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It was very sporadically mentioned in various places

leaden nexus Apr 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Yeah the loading screens mentioned them a lot

grim snow May 1, 2019, 2:25 PM

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B-442 And 443 were both killed in operation inferno

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So basically the PCE rexes are dead

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B442 and 443 are both magnatyrannus, I mean look at the one in the isle and the one in PCE, I see a resemblance, even in the roar

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Apollo engineering tried to clone B-442 and B-443 , resulting in their death

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B-442 and 443 were stolen from Phoenix corp, and the failure of the cloning resulted in their death

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Thats what I think

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Before that, B-443 probably went loose and entered the hyperendocrin habitat

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Resulting in the fight between the hypo rex and 443, now I theorize that the magnatyrannus fighting was 443, because 442 was probably big red boi

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The cloning was initiated on July 25th at 11:30pm, the system expected a perfect clone of B442 and 443 , but the process failed.

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Thats my theory

hearty mulch May 1, 2019, 6:13 PM

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B442 is a skull

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Thronebreaker, a hyper rex, was also stolen from phoenix

wraith nova May 1, 2019, 6:27 PM

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I kinda wonder did AE stole in fact Phoenix assests or did they bought Phoenix. Or at last some part of it.

tiny carbon May 1, 2019, 6:29 PM

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If im remembering right, B-443 was confirmed via console interaction to be the facility that housed either hypo or magna rex iirc, not the actual creature

hearty mulch May 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Nah, they're particular assets, not a building

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Also stated from the console

sleek temple May 1, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Atricum B housed the hypo quetz

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which is a pc map

wraith nova May 1, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Not atricium but atrium

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:51 PM

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so pce and the isle are related or what?

opaque crane May 1, 2019, 9:51 PM

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im pretty sure everyone thinks they are related

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:52 PM

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is it a theory or an actual thing?

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:52 PM

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well if you look at the credits right at the bottom, you will find out for sure.

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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like pce and the isle are in the same universse?

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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yes

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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and theory or actual thing?

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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give me a minute, i'l get you some proof.

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:53 PM

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alright

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:54 PM

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that and this

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not to mention all the hints

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and the magna rex looking like the PC rex

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:56 PM

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what does the first supposed to mean

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first image

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i dont get it

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:56 PM

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icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:57 PM

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does that mean the isle is primal carnage or what?

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im stupid

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:58 PM

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well it's proof that they're connected somehow, or why would PC be in the isles credits

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:58 PM

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ohhh

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 9:58 PM

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oh we also have a few other things

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 9:59 PM

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is that maybe why the acro roars from pce sounds almost (if not) exactly like the one from the isle?

opaque crane May 1, 2019, 9:59 PM

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the companies in the games Phoenix and Apollo whatever their business titles are, are theorized to be connected. like, taking or sharing assets. i might be wrong though

carmine marsh May 1, 2019, 10:01 PM

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everything i posted along with the video i just sent you should be enough @icy onyx

icy onyx May 1, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yeah lol its qutie funny

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quite

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thanks btw

mighty abyss May 1, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Well, the PC acro came first so the Isles Acro sounds like the PC acro

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And the Atriums for the pterosaurs were A and C. B was the aquatic atrium that had a leopleurodon and a kaprosuchus

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And from the current looks of it, it seems Phoenix and Apollo were sister companies, or at least closely related

wraith nova May 2, 2019, 1:05 AM

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I still have feeling that either AE bought at last some part of Phoenix or stole some of their assets, though buying seem more rational.

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It could be actually similar case as with Jurassic Par and Jurassic World. Same scientists, but different companies just because one went out of market and either totally bankruted or stayed as not too big player in market. That would be interesting

digital vale May 2, 2019, 7:40 AM

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So, AllFather was just codename for the project of making Big Daddy, right? I was just looking throught transmissions and next to their names there is ".F" - which I think means female. Would that mean that those two magnatyrannuses were female? Also, the Alphonse... does it mean it's the quetz Alfie?

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ALLFATHER.F REPLICATED.
THRONEBREAKER.F DELETED.
ALPHONSE.F DELETED.
SYSTEM RECOVERY REQUIRED.
INITIATING REBOOT.

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Also, deleted... what does it mean? Like killed, lost, or....?

wraith nova May 2, 2019, 9:23 AM

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".F" seam like female to me too, or it means first, hard to tell at this point. Deleted could mean in that case both were created but process went wrong, like embryo or earlier stage had some kind of error.

rain crystal May 2, 2019, 12:45 PM

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since we're talking computers, .f almost sounds more like a file type. especially since we know allfather and thronebreaker are probably more like project names than the names of the actual dinosaurs

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so it's more like... the files that dinosaurs can be replicated from (which pretty much seems to be when the system takes a blueprint and turns it into an actual creature) are deleted, so they can no longer exist or be created

fringe marsh May 2, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I think this is a way around the jurassic park copy right for book 2

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Thus I like it👍

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It would even take in the fact the book had a high carno count and a low herb while still keeping a balanced ecosystem

digital vale May 2, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@rain crystal I see, that really make sense. So from the AllFather file was made Big Daddy, Alphonse (which was probably the Alfie, the Hypo Quetz) was 1) cancelled, because Alfie was a failure which escaped the facility and - well, nobody wants uncontrollable super-dangerous dinos, right? Or 2) somebody else deleted it? I mean, to prevent from -something-, but who knows. Also, do we have some more specific info about project Thronebreaker? I cannot find anything.

mighty abyss May 2, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Thronebreaker... well kings sit on thrones, t. rexes are kings in their own rights

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it's probably the magna rex

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so the files or genetic blueprint for the direct copy of Big Daddy, Alfie and Thronebreaker were lost or deleted somewhere down the line

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either to cover up tracks for people snooping around or because they were deemed as 'faliures'

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and, considering Big Daddy & Alfie managed to quite easily break out and wreak havoc on the island, I don't blame them for calling them failures

left ocean May 2, 2019, 4:35 PM

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If I'm correct isnt Thronebreaker the Hypo Rex?

mighty abyss May 2, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It's unknown which is which

left ocean May 2, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I think its confirmed to be the Hypo

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Could be wrong though

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Wait it's in pinned messages

mighty abyss May 2, 2019, 4:36 PM

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oop

junior sun May 2, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Magna

sleek temple May 2, 2019, 4:48 PM

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heres something

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in one of the logs it was said that magna rex would rise up and take the throne

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so why was hypo rex nicknamed thronebreaker?

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and yes ik it was named thronebreaker

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which also shares the name with the spino in primal carnage

sleek temple May 2, 2019, 5:58 PM

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also imma throw this out here

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v2 is thenyaw

bronze pike May 2, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Nope it isnt

severe lark May 2, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Region 2 was it's own map completely.

sleek temple May 2, 2019, 7:08 PM

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what was the name of the guy that went missing and he was like a director of AE or somethin

digital vale May 2, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Well, the "magna rex would rise up and take the throne"... maybe the Thronebreaker project is supposed to be... "anti - Magna" creature? ( => to prevent undefeatable monster taking the throne, you must destroy the throne itself). But that's little bit weird, why would they have two project fighting each other? And for -what- (the throne) exactly are they fighting for? For making the perfect creature?

opaque crane May 2, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Perhaps the Anti-magna would be something that could counter the magna should something go wrong?

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If an anti-magna exists

regal locust May 2, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Where’s this quote you guys have somehow gotten?

grave ice May 2, 2019, 8:12 PM

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flyers while haveing the ability to fly i feel will have low hp makeing it that when they land they

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have to constantly be on the lookout

regal locust May 2, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Can we get the channel name changed to “isle-lore-theories” instead of just isle theories?

opaque crane May 2, 2019, 8:17 PM

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This is more theories about the lore, not theories about gameplay @grave ice

grave ice May 2, 2019, 8:17 PM

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oh .-.

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sorry

regal locust May 2, 2019, 8:17 PM

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S’all good m’dude.

wraith nova May 2, 2019, 9:22 PM

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That was still kind of lore. I mean fliers will surely will have something preventing them from geting out from isle.

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I was rereading transmissions and this one got my attention "Sometimes, right before consciousness slips away, you can see all of them waiting for you."

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Maybe profiles are unconsciousness people? On other hand that would be kind of ridicoulus, or super scary because it's around 6k profiles.

icy onyx May 3, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Would be hilarious if there is a missile cruiser to intercept all the pteras that try to fly out the isle

fickle vector May 3, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I'm just going to go all out and say that there might be a gigantic electric field surrounding the island

neat steeple May 3, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Or maybe however we’re controlling them requires a signal to be sent to the dino and once they fly/swim too far out they’re out of range for the signal and, lacking the ability to function without a conscious in them, die. Like when a drone flies out of range of its controller.

rose sparrow May 3, 2019, 6:47 AM

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I think that how hypos came to be is from humans mass breeding them to the point where they evolve it to super creatures. i might be wrong tho idk

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and that the humans r kinda like the bad guys of the game bc they’re invading the dinosaurs land

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and that the humans would eventually realize that they messed up and try to develop weapons to destroy their creations but only make it worse

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therefor creating the magna rex and the neurotenic spinosaurus

digital vale May 3, 2019, 12:10 PM

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So, the Thronebreaker is the Hypo Rex, but the weird thing is... if Hypo is supposed to be counter to Magna, then the AllFather's failure (Magna escaped and killed Hypo) would be exact opossite of what they want. I still believe it has something to do with the throne (Allfather Project wants to get throne, ThroneBreaker Project wants to stop Allfather from getting to throne -> destroying the throne).

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@rose sparrow I don't think it has anything to do with the mass breeding (which would be very, very slow way to get perfect creature and also it would be uneffective) and it's more likely "playing with DNA", similiar to cancelled Jurassic Park 4.

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Also, I don't think the humans are the bad guys - not because the land "belongs" to tribals, but there are more powerful and scarier creatures (like Echidna), who are probably threating both dinos and humans.

sleek temple May 3, 2019, 2:50 PM

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mabye jita

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those hypos were incomplete

vague glen May 3, 2019, 3:05 PM

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The land doesn't "belong" to the tribals, as such. From what we can gather the tribals are manmade and inserted into the island just like the dinos. They and Echidna are some way related, with Echidna seeing itself as a mother-like figure to them. The tribal side of the relationship is unknown, but they may also view her in a maternal, or even godlike manner.

sleek temple May 3, 2019, 3:22 PM

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the hypo rex would actually make sense to destroy the magna

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its strong and will die after it kills it

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because of the metabilsm

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though

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it makes u wonder

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what was the type h spino used for

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from what ik

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there are type m Aquatics

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ALL CASE STUDIES AS OF (10 LETTERS)-2014 HAVE SHOWN THAT ALL GEN-1 SPECIES CANNOT TREAD WATER FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. DUE TO SIZE ISSUES OF NEWEST TYPE-M SPECIMENS, ALL FURTHER AQUATIC BIOLOGICAL STUDIES WILL MOVED TO ATRIUM B (POD 4) UNTIL THE BAY LOCKE IS FINISHED DEVELOPMENT. REPORT ALL ENDURANCE TIMINGS TO DR. (10 LETTERS).

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mabye the h spino was used to hunt these ones in the water

digital vale May 3, 2019, 5:34 PM

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@vague glen Thanks for correcting me, 'cause somebody made a comment about island belonging to Tribals while ago and I was very confused. @sleek temple Well, the metabolism could be also problemactic, because if the Hypo escapes (or if they use him to "hunt down" the Magna that escapes the facility), that means it could get super aggressive when trying to find food and attacking other dinos -> aka having new source of food. That means they must've planned to control the Hypo, or have somebody's mind insert into him, to prevent total destruction. I think they used alternative dinosaurs for testing new opinions - who knows, maybe Hypo Spino would be faster in water than Hypo Rex, etc. Also, I don't think Hypo Spino was created to hunt aquatic creatures - 1) Spino nor Hypo Spino aren't purely aquatic creatures, and their upright posture would make them at a big disadvantage in the water. 2) Prehistoric aquatic creatures were HUGE, and if there is some "Type-M" (not sure if it's strain or indication for Marine creatures) strain than it would be gigantic and more bigger than Hypo Spino. When you look at that mysterious skeleton in the lake, it was bigger than anything on the island.

sleek temple May 3, 2019, 5:37 PM

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jita

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i was the person who said about the tribals owning the island before

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because there is ruins inside titan lake

digital vale May 3, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Ah, sorry, I didn't remember who wrote it. I only knew it was here and nobody said it's not true / it's now possible.

sleek temple May 3, 2019, 5:41 PM

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ik but it means titan lake is man-made

digital vale May 3, 2019, 5:48 PM

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If I remember well, those ruins were once on the old map, where they weren't underwater. This only means -somehow- they were flooded (nature, mysthical powers or humans) during the projects, dinos, AE, etc. but doesn't mean they were before us.

sleek temple May 3, 2019, 6:10 PM

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they are diffrent ruins from the v2 ones and isla mesa 001 ones

dusk axle May 3, 2019, 8:34 PM

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waht if the flooded areas are man made, remember that in one log the strains were redirected for water testing to another atrium while they would eork on a new one i think so yhea

nova yarrow May 4, 2019, 8:58 AM

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What if strains can only be contracted from the pure strain creatures?

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And then you have to wait for the strain to fully mutate, similar to the growth system

fathom epoch May 4, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Ofc titan is man made, there is a giant dam at the one end that would have flooded the valley the tribals had their ruins in

carmine marsh May 4, 2019, 12:11 PM

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there's a good chance that the ruins in titan are only there temporary, remember the map isn't finished.

dapper tree May 4, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Look to the sky at the right time and you might find the gateway to the replicator

sleek temple May 4, 2019, 11:54 PM

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i tried that alot

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idk what the gateway could be

dapper tree May 4, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Maybe a line pointing to somewhere, but you have to be in the right spot to even see it. Or the answer may be in the lightning.

digital vale May 5, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Somebody said before it's that brightest star (Pole Star?) but when you try to follow it, you only get into the sea. Maybe it will have something to do with the sea reptiles or new map, who knows, but I don't think this gateway is already finished.

wraith nova May 5, 2019, 11:09 AM

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I doubt it, Norrh Star was added to allow people to know directions, especially during night

radiant tiger May 5, 2019, 11:19 AM

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icy onyx May 5, 2019, 11:19 AM

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im sure this has been talked abt alrdy but
sometimes i hear sounds smth similar to a plane?

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unsure if its just wind tho

mighty abyss May 5, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Nonono you're getting it all wrong

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What you have to do is follow the second star to the right of the North Star and then head straight on 'till morning

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It'll be so much easier once flying reptiles are added

digital vale May 5, 2019, 11:33 AM

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@icy onyx Yep, it was there already, but don't worry 😃 nobody knows what exactly it is, only thing we know is that you can hear it only on few places during night.

crisp wedge May 5, 2019, 11:36 AM

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I was gonna say, I definitely hear that a lot

icy onyx May 5, 2019, 11:37 AM

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ah i see
i hear it alot too. but yea mostoy night

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digital vale May 5, 2019, 11:52 AM

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It was discussed here many times, people mostly say it's a plane, but also there are theories that it's a drone or just a wind (I have feeling somebody from AT said it's part of Redwood ambience, but I don't quite believe it 👀)

wraith nova May 5, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Drone would make sense since we can't see anything

digital vale May 5, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Plane or drone, I believe it's some tracking device or something that's "spying" on us, or there are some background projects on the Isle we don't know about. I know this Tapwing's picture isn't Isle related, but it would be neat idea having AIs / Spy - Cam dinosaurs recording us.

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Or - maybe it has something to do with these tweets. (Human with backpag/parachute and helicoptere)

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high heath May 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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That's his armor

digital vale May 5, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yeah, you're probably right.

high heath May 5, 2019, 2:39 PM

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They did have that player model in one of Anth's videos.

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It was clunky armor, though the Dinosaurs would kill people really easily.

vast sluice May 5, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I could see that armor possibly protecting against a raptor

wraith nova May 5, 2019, 3:50 PM

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They have stationary cameras to see dinos and rest are gathered by implants. Armor was integral part of first human model, not like any additional protection. Also most bigger dinos have huge bone crushing force in jaws so no armor can help.

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Smaller raptors but not against utah

rain crystal May 5, 2019, 3:52 PM

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hey uh. the video way up above that has the weird plane/drone noise, i just re-listened to it with the volume turned a ways up

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y'know what it sounds like? that big "bwaaaa" noise that you hear when you start up the game

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a little bit slowed down, but exact same pitch. it even has the same kinda sudden fade-out at the end

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if we're controlling the dinosaurs from a computer... maybe that's either a system start up noise, or a kinda tone to sync our computers with a dino brain, like the dial-up sound? it's weird whatever it is

junior sun May 5, 2019, 3:57 PM

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You're not controlling them from a computer

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Your consciousness has been implanted to sway their behavior but not fully control it.

tiny carbon May 5, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Actually when I went through all the evidence to prove that Lethal, I actually ended up proving that we aren't entirely sure it's our conciousness being put into them. The only thing we do know for sure is that profiles are, most likely refrencing EIP's (Embryo Intelligence Profiles). Evidence to support this is that there is at least 1 EIP for every player and the constant refirmations of Profiles being inserted into the dinos and not using another word. It's specifically that one.

Could the EIP's be our conciousness? Sure, but it could also just be something like a control chip, a copy of our conciousness, or a number of other things since there's been no concrete confirmation on what they are.

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And the being controlled from a computer is supported with the keyboard clacks when typing into the chatbox, and the deathscreen showing a feed of sorts. If it was our conciousness controlling them I don't think we'd get to see a feed of information whenever we die, it would probably do something equivical to fading to black or losing focus.

At least, I would think so anyways

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If you scroll up a little ways (not that far up) then you can see the big chunk of me giving my thought on that as well as the evidence and the sources to them

placid harness May 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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There have been references to the transferal of data amounts that would approximately be that of a human brain in some of the screens.

dull osprey May 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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what else would be asking questions?

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other than a consciousness

tawny dock May 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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How would this work with newly hatched dinos?

dull osprey May 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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*conscience not consciousness mb

tawny dock May 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I bet the dinosaurs were either bred with hyper intelligence, or this doesn't matter at all

rain crystal May 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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someone's pointed out that the keyboard sounds when we're typing in chat indicate that we're controlling the dinosaurs from a computer or a similar type of console

tawny dock May 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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really I'm just waiting for tribals to be more fleshed out, if they have the same chat box, then we know the GUI is not meant to make sense lore wise

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and like I said before, the chip control thing does not explain hatched dinosaurs

honest basalt May 5, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Are dinosaur weight classes a thing? Im being told that your weight class and actual dinosaur weight number are seperate systems and interact with eatchother when you apply damage/bleed

mighty abyss May 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Wrong chat but yes

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If you look at your species profile it tells you your weight and bite force, and judging from that you can figure out your health and damage compared to other dinosaurs

honest basalt May 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I mean that your weight class and your dinos actual weight are seperate.

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and both play a role in damage/damage taken

mighty abyss May 5, 2019, 11:09 PM

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.....taking this back to theories, are the weights of the dinosaurs accurate? And if not, why not? Genetic modification? Random sampling?

junior sun May 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Game balance for damage. It's based on weight. Nothing more or less.

rain crystal May 6, 2019, 5:46 AM

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hatched dinosaurs was explained, not by chips, but by radio interference with the animals' brain to its body and replacing the signals with artificial ones, by Auxiar Molkhun. though i guess if you wanted to, you could breed dinos with unusually low brain activity that's easier to override
or you could just say, y'know, since the nest has a frigging UI with progress and stages and stuff, that the nest's probably built with nano technology that's in the dirt, and they can implant whatever they want into the fetus. which may be a bit more plausible since it'd require some crazy strong signals to override brain signals externally and with no kind of amplifier on the body of the dino itself, and if AE's playing around with crazy genetics on plants and dinos they might as well be playing around with nanotechnology, too

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but plot-wise nanotech seems like too much of an easy out

fringe marsh May 6, 2019, 9:01 AM

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I think we are dinos that people are raising for game hunting, and the black market. If you think a mercenary role is a human thing. And it would be why they want to limit pack sizes

wraith nova May 6, 2019, 2:01 PM

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If it wad the case tgere would be next to no buildings. Two island or more where one would havd infrastructure for humans and rest would be hunting grounds. Also loading screens are enough too notice there's bioengineering experiments going on and no just lets prodece dinos for human hunters

opaque crane May 6, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Also, limiting pack size isn't anything to do with lore, as far as I know. Pack limits are generally just a way to avoid giant groups of apexes murdering everything.
Based on the evidence other people have collected, found in the pinned messages, we can infer that there is some sort of biological experimentation project happening. The strains also wouldn't make sense in the case of game being created for the black market. What would be the point of creating a creature with a ravenous appetite and immense strength or an incredibly smart being if you planned on having it shot and killed for fun?

fringe marsh May 6, 2019, 3:56 PM

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The good one for war and the dead ones can have their bones sold on the black k market for medication ( old Chinese thought dino and dragon bones healed and brought luck ) which knows what else could come out of it

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Look at jp fallen kingdom hunt dinos for a trophy

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You have to admit ( not against it be I love the idea ) I think this game has been influenced alot by the JP movies

opaque crane May 6, 2019, 3:59 PM

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While that is a possibility, I will point out that all of our current evidence points to scientific experiments, with nothing seeming to hint at trophy hunting dinosaurs

digital vale May 6, 2019, 5:25 PM

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... ugh, Fallen Kingdom, not that movie again... Isle might have been heavily inspired by Jurassic Park, but it doesn't mean it's exact copy of the movies or the books. As there was said, there is no evidence about some welthy people hunting dinos for fun or people selling dino bones, and only thing we know is that AE is playing with bioengineering - and that's all. We don't know why exactly is AE making super-dinosaurs, maybe for the army as you said, maybe they are trying to test all the possibilities of the evolution, who knows.

river marsh May 6, 2019, 5:55 PM

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There's also the matter of profiles being human minds, (correct?) so why would they have humans essentially trophy hunting other humans? That's just a no in my book. The experiments likely lead to dinosaurs being the answer to some sort of problem -especially if militarized. Otherwise they wouldn't have been created.

paper herald May 6, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Maybe the reason human consciousness is planted into dinosaurs is because they could only bring back a “husk” body, and needed to fill it with a mind, thus using humans cause creepy factor

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Do we even know if it’s 100 percent confirmed that it’s human consciousness?

digital vale May 6, 2019, 7:13 PM

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So like, something Ark-like? I mean, maybe there is some terrible atmosphere or environment on the Earth, and they are using dinosaurs to survive this "apocalypse" and saving the human-kind for the future... but I don't understand why would they need to make Hypos, Neuros, Echidna, etc. but I feel it's some kind of danger that might stimulate AE and Phoenix to doing all of this. Also the military stuff might be answer for it too, but it feels ... too cliché to me. @paper herald Well, nothing is 100% sure, but it's very high possibility. There is a lot of evidence around it but nobody officialy confirmed it, if I remember correctly.

paper herald May 6, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Nah, I don’t mean that the dinos are a means to survive an apocalypse, I meant that they placed human minds in them as an experiment, perhaps because the dinosaurs had dysfunctional brains when cloned

digital vale May 6, 2019, 7:24 PM

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That part before your name was mostly meant to answer to Keit's comment, sorry, I forgot to add a tag ^^' and I understand what you mean, as I said, it's not confirmed, but it's highely possible. I don't think putting human consciousness was did because of dysfunctional dino brains - I believe they would rather put an ape or dog "mind" rather than risk the human's life.

fringe marsh May 6, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Where dose everyone get there that's been officially posted?

rain crystal May 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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there's a transmission that says "strip away everything a man is and you can rebuild him in any image." maybe this is all some crazy experiment of how far you can push a human consciousness before it becomes not human any more?

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but then there's a string of transmissions, which seem to be talking about the cannibals, that they exhibited signs of rapid cognitive decay. "the first generation turned to religion" "soon they stopped giving results at all" and "As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most basic and violent ideologies remained."

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there's also... a LOT of tweets that mention the gateway. one of the first ones warns "DO NOT PASS GATEWAY. DO NOT ANSWER THE CALL" and then later there's mention of "see the world through a keyhole", "the door between this world and the next" and the ever-popular "look to the sky at the right time. the path to gateway has been there all along"

mighty abyss May 6, 2019, 10:19 PM

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I've got to assume that at this point the gateway in the sky is some kind of metaphor and not an actual thing

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Gateway is probably a codeword for the transformation device that changes something, be it consciousness, physical traits or whatnot

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Also we need to come up with a new word for the 'cannibals'. The cannibals are the tribals, so that can just stay as it is. The 'cannibals' aren't that though. Mutations perhaps? Gateseers? Idk but it gets confusing now so until they have an official name it's better to make one up we can all agree on that doesn't overlap

rain crystal May 6, 2019, 10:34 PM

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i... was pretty sure the cannibals referred to the NPC human-raptor hybrid things that will be released eventually and can supposedly be heard near the dome at night, and tribals referred to the eventually-playable humans, as opposed to the marines?

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i don't think there was mention of the tribals being cannibalistic, unlike the cannibals which almost definitely are given their name

mighty abyss May 6, 2019, 10:50 PM

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The cannibals are the tribals

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The 'cannibals' are the neomorph looking mofos

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You know the ugly ones? Those are the tribals. They're the cannibals

rain crystal May 6, 2019, 10:59 PM

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...i'm confused.

hearty mulch May 6, 2019, 11:06 PM

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the bat orc people who are the tribals are the cannibals

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the neurotenic somethings with no eyes are neurotenic somethings

rain crystal May 6, 2019, 11:07 PM

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so this sucker is a neurotenic something

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and.... i have no idea what the actual cannibals/tribals/whatever look like. so playing one of those is like playing the forest with dinosaurs i guess?

hearty mulch May 6, 2019, 11:11 PM

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rain crystal May 6, 2019, 11:12 PM

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so as you get stronger you get more... weird and misshapen? that's horrifying

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there's gonna be some weird uncanny valley shit running around

mighty abyss May 6, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Save your bullets for these nasty feckers

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Hey I'm kind of a newbie here so could someone share with me their knowledge about the strains and how and why they were created ?

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I'd like to know too

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:07 AM

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basically we aren't exactly sure why most of the strains exist, barring Type-M (Magna) specimens. The most plausible theories at the moment have something to do with the strain material being discovered, then tested using pre-existing assets like people and dinosaurs. Hyperendocrines and Magnas (Project Thronebreaker and Allfather respectively) seem to have originated from Phoenix Corp and were stolen from them by Apollo Engineering in Operation Inferno.

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Magnas originated from project Allfather, which entailed an attempt at creating the perfect organism

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the two assets recovered from the project were B-442 and B-443, a type of tyrannosaur skull and a living Magnatyrannus

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Tissoplastics, Hyperendocrines, and Neurotenics don't have a revealed origin, other than the fact hyperendocrine material seem to originally be from Phoenix rather than Apollo

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Tissoplastic and Hyperendocrine strain materials seem to not be able to spread, rather needing to be inserted into an individual for changes to occur. Neurotenic material however seems to be able to "infect" other organisms by replicating itself inside them

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Mmmh

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:14 AM

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All current neurotenics, until stated otherwise, are hinted to be sourced from one individual/phenomenon, Echidna. After Echidna escaped from containment Apollo Engineering ceased experimentation with Type-N material, even going as far give orders to terminate staff who had come into contact with any neurotenic material

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I say current because there were likely neurotenic individuals (dinosaurs and such) prior to Echidna, but they were terminated alongside ceasing research into type-N material

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Will you be able to become any type of strain mutant as a dinosaur when strains become a thing? Like maybe needing to find the material or eat it and such

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:17 AM

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It’s been said you won’t know how you did it

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:17 AM

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While we aren't sure exactly how strains will happen when implemented, it is a technical yes that you will be able to become one of the stains

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unless you are a herbivore, but that's more gameplay decision as of now

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Yeah

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I don't know what you meant with Apolo engineering and Phoenix. Has it to do with primal carnage?

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I have around 100 hours in the isle and I still don't know the story a single bit

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I really wanna learn it but I don't know where the start it

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Is*

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:21 AM

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The docs are all ways a good place there pinned

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Phoenix Corp is from Primal Carnage, yeah

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Basically some organization that cooked up a bunch of weird dinosaurs, much like Apollo

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Dunno if dondi is gonna keep in the part where some of their dinosaurs are engineered to cooperate with each other to carry out militaristic operations or not

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I can understand why would you want something as an hyper or tisso strain to create war beast. But isn't neurotenic able to give creature uman like intelligence in addition to psychic and electro magnetic capabilities? Why would anyone want to create such a beast ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:27 AM

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The best theory right now is that the original strain materials are not manmade, rather discovered

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All these beasts AE or Phoenix created using them are just experiments

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Seeing what the material can do

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Take Allfather and Thronebreaker for a theoretical example. You spend all this time and genetic work creating this big beautiful animal, then you discover this weird material that can create a big giant animal a lot like yours with a lot less effort

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Why not play around with that material?

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:30 AM

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So the type-N Spino isn't man made but rather an "Echidna creation"

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:31 AM

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If it is a newer one, yes, it somehow stems from Echidna

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:31 AM

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What is this all father and throne breaker and echidna your talking about?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:32 AM

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But if you are to take Tapwing's old example of scientists peering over a Type-N spino corpse, that'd be one created before Echidna happened

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Allfather and Thronebreaker are just project names, Allfather being Magnatyrannus, Thronebreaker being Hyper Rex

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Aaaah oki

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Echidna is that weird one eyed neurotenic monster from awhile back

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Basically someone replicated Type-N material inside a human, then something happened that was bad enough to make them stop testing type-N material

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:37 AM

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So Tapwing work is canon ? Or just what have been officially communicated

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Some of it yes, others not so much

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Depends on the piece

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Mostly officially communicated stuff

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:39 AM

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So are the Hyper Colossus and Tisso Reaper a thing or just fan theory ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Hyper Colossus is a thing, Dondi didn't like the tisso reaper's design and we haven't seen a rework yet

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Colossus, Echidna, and Reaper are all from Rodrigo Vega originally, and are official art

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Do we know the level of intelligence of the type-N creature ?

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Muttonchops, me and my friends play the isle now just for dinosaur gameplay but we are hyped for human gameplay. Do you have any idea of what could get added in first humans or the materials?

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:47 AM

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What do you mean by materials ?

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:47 AM

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The strains

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Humans

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Strains are far from being ready for the public

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:48 AM

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I guessed so

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Will humans get transport?

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What will be the purpose of humans even

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:48 AM

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We don’t really know much about humans will get but stuff like that is more #401464048610312195

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Oki thx

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Humans are basically in the same boat as dinosaurs, that being test subjects

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Hmmhmm

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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And yeah, they'll get transport

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Any idea what kind?

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Are we talking about tribals , cannibals or mercenary ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:49 AM

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My guess is the first humans implemented will be tribals, the mutant weirdos, and the mercenaries

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Mercs are the ones with guns and so on

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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The big eyeless humanoids will probably come later, as those are strains

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yeah

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I can't wait to see how a spino eats a human

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:50 AM

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If i am even more honest, mercenaries are a healthier bet on which humans comes first because much more straightforward gameplay to implement

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Do you think they will be an entire different species or just type-N human ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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My guess is type-n mutant

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Aka type-n tribal

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Shouldn't the mercennaries should be able to mutate to ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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They might but I dunno if they will

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Are tribals like Indians or something else?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Tribals are mutants that look a lot like humans

nocturne cosmos May 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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There just tribals....

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And that

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Big lads

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Wait

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Tribals

📎 a5f8eeb71954da26f0310b5bfd7bc3d2.png

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Oh ugly

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:53 AM

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And I think tribals are more likely to make it into the game first considering mercenaries will need way more stuff to be viable

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Yah

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What's the difference between tribals and cannibals?

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Cannibals are alien looking I thought

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But what are their history?

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:54 AM

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tribals = mutated human create by scientist
Cannibals = echidna off-spring

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i might be wrong

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Oh

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:58 AM

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So is a gathering/crafting system will appear in the game so the tribals won't get absolutely defensless ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:13 AM

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yes

tawny dock May 7, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Echidna?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:15 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/575133121238925322/latest.png

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echidna's this thing

tawny dock May 7, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Echidna

📎 Short-beaked_echidna_in_ANBG.jpg

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:18 AM

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origin of the word is the name of the mother of monsters

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which is fitting for one eye'd beasty above because some tribals worship her

tawny dock May 7, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Ok that makes sense, also echidnas are now more badass in my book

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:22 AM

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So if Echidna is the "titan" of the neuro strain the colossus the hypo and something the "titan" of the tisso is it possible we gonna get a magna "titan"

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:23 AM

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magna titan seems to be the Magnatyrannus

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Mostly because the type-Ms seem to be more manmade than any of the other strains

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:25 AM

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i wouldn't say more man made but rather mor complete

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I'd say more manmade because it doesn't seem they are caused by any particular material other than hard genetic work

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Wait the magna aren't from the matriarch genetic code ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Afaik, no

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They stem from Project Allfather, or the Original Magnatyrannus and a skull. That all said, the skull might be the origin of Type-M specimens

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Like, they discovered some super dinosaur fossil and recreated it. But that's theory

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Do we know where the matriarch specimens came from or why did they appear ,

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Nope

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All we know is they start small and get big

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:29 AM

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How big ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:29 AM

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And also aren't really a dinosaur

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Big as a pue

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Maybe

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:30 AM

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thats big....

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And the 3 Strain came from their mutagenic material right ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:31 AM

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No

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Wait...

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So they were'nt the material used for the creation of the 3 strain

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:32 AM

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The exact origins of the strains, other than possibly Type-Ms, are unknown

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The Matriarch, as far as we know, has nothing to do with the strains

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Ok I always assumed they were the raw material for the creation of the strains

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like a genetic goo you try to shape to give something more stable

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:33 AM

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There's raw materials for each of the three, but we have no idea where that comes from

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Hyperendocrine material wasn't even discovered by Apollo

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It was stolen from phoenix corp

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Isn't the neuro material confirmed to be marine species dna ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Nah

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:34 AM

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like jelly fish ?

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Definitely not

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:34 AM

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well f me

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 2:35 AM

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They get squishier, but that's about it when it comes to jellyfish similarities

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Well their abilities to produce light and electro magnetic field combined with Tapwing concept art made me think so

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And are the N type weaker than their non infected counter part ?

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i've seen alot of people discuss about that

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 4:28 AM

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My guess is not really, though there are disadvantages. That being squishy body and possibly brighter colors

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But from what we've seen, neuros get bigger than their non infected forms, so that is a major plus

acoustic pollen May 7, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Hasn’t the neuro spino been downsized to be around the size of para? unless I’m mistaken about it in recent-ish streams it’s been much smaller than previously shown

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Being squishy could also allow them to heal faster

timber notch May 7, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Neuro spino liquidizes its food to drink through its tongue, maybe the liquidation helps rebuild its own injuries by using the cells from what it eats. Blood cells would be used to help regenerate and recover from blood loss quicker, etc.

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I don't think it's safe to say that all neuros will have that drinking straw eating thing though so it's totally just nonsense rn

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Oooh

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 9:16 AM

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By the way do you think the fact that he will get a totally unique way of eating mean that he can feed on living creature

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:11 AM

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The liquidation process could coincide with using an EMP

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All living things have an electrical charge inside of them, and some can use it like a weapon, such as the classic example of an electric eel

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An EMP shuts down electrical circuits and equipment. As an attack, this could also temporarily paralise other dinosaurs and humans

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In doing so however, the neuro spino hurts itself, since it's giving off a massive electrical surge and charge from a central position in its body

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But through liquidising its meals, it could regain that charge in a smoothie form, in turn also healing the damage it caused itself. However, the type of EMP used means that the spino would need more or less meals in order to stabalise its body again

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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EMP blast
prey is paralyzed
neuro spino can "eat" and/or kill the prey to ensure a meal at its leisure

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Basically

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It's a cycle

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Neuro is like some godzilla kaiju if it does EMP

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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It could work for something like a neuro dilo as well

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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since most creatures there eat radiation etc

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do EMP

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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It spits, it blinds, it sucks

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 10:17 AM

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also EMP shouldn't affect dinos except mess their inner magnetic compass

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:18 AM

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These are modified dinosaurs however. It's highly likely that they have some kind of augmentation within their body that, you guess it, runs off electricity

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But again, using examples such as electric eels, paralysiation is a very common thing to happen, both in sea and on land

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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found this on how an electric eel's shock works;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS-tmBD9Cjk

YouTube

Vanderbilt University

Electric eel uses high-voltage shocks to locate and stun prey--Van...

The electric eel, a scaleless Amazonian fish that can deliver an electrical jolt strong enough to knock down a full-grown horse, possesses an electroshock sy...

▶ Play video

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Think of the special abilities of neuros like a last resort attack

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At least, that's my theory

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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it would be close distance prob

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unless both standing on a river or somehting

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Well, the neuro spino has electromagnetic sensors or something in place of its eyes, and its spines are exposed scaleless skin-tight bone

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It could be running off a similar system to the eels prey tracking on a very low scale. Again though, it all depends on how dangerous or hungry the neruo spino is feeling. It could have the ability to 'charge' the EMP, giving it a higher range/voltage/damage/paralysis time etc

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 10:23 AM

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i wonder if it could somehow affect heat signatures of things hit with the EMP

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neuro spino probably has some measure of heat sensitivity to supplement the lack of eyes

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*thermal detection

icy onyx May 7, 2019, 10:24 AM

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EMP doesn't affect animals tho other than maybe the magnetic fields they try to read to find which way is north etc

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but EMP would mess up humans royaly that use electronics

wheat cloud May 7, 2019, 10:28 AM

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I think neuro should be able to fight crime just like static shock

wraith nova May 7, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Neuro spino could have electromagnetic detection just like sharks, but on bigger scale since neuro spino is blind

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 10:52 AM

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How does is abilities to blind other creature near him make sense with what we know about the neuro strain

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Or living creature

wraith nova May 7, 2019, 10:54 AM

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EMP. Basicaly all your senses need to send messages to brain in form of electric impulses. So electro magnetic pulse could mess with your senses

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Doing so by a electric field would cost an enormous amount of energy and will do way more than just blind people

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By the way do we know about any other abilities he might posess exept for the harpoon tongue

wraith nova May 7, 2019, 10:57 AM

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It works probably like electric eel, it magazines energy in body to be able to release it when needed. Also ot diesn't have to use massive amount of energy if it could somehow direct it like near eyes or something. Or maybe just weaker impulses to simply mess with neurons

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Weather changing. I remember there was something about it's ability to make rain or storm

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Will type N get a new senses or an improved smell so he doesn't suffer of the rain ?

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Something like shark that can sense electric field created by living creature

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 11:04 AM

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EMP could mess with motor functions, too

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so it could make you run right out of your hiding spot or move in some way that reveals your location, maybe make involuntary calls

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 11:06 AM

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That would be the most frustrating mechanic ever added in this game.

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Just imagine playing as a juv getting chased by a type N spino hiding in a bush and you just see him emitting weird light before your dino start screamming

timber notch May 7, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Neuro spino could be one of the defenses other dinos have against mercs and their tracking tech. When the neuro charges an EMP it can disable tracking devices and implants allowing dinos to sneak up on the humans during that short window of time the neuro has it enabled. It would be interesting coordination for survival, although technically it is mixpacking.

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Aren't the type N suppose to pocess some sort of telepathy aloing them to connect with other species ?

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 11:10 AM

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neuro spino is supposed to be unique and terrifying and something you want to AVOID at all costs, if not because it can probably kill you pretty easily but because, once you're in its bubble, it makes you nearly lose all control of yourself and that makes it very hard to get away again

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it'd be frustrating as all hell but it'd be an interesting twist to the gameplay

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Do you think all the strain will make it to the game at the same time ?

oak pumice May 7, 2019, 11:12 AM

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nope

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 11:13 AM

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To bad they seem to counter each other

timber notch May 7, 2019, 11:13 AM

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I have a feeling that neuros would have some control over that though. If they have the ability to somewhat communicate with other species, it wouldn't make any sense that they're monstrously aggressive all the time. It'll get hungry frequently sure, you do want to avoid them, but if you can gain an upper hand in a survival situation like no other for a short time, I'd sure as hell take it and skidaddle before the neuro turns around and munches me.

digital vale May 7, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Well, if the Neuro is supposed to be sort of "Magician" class and has ability to communicate, maybe it has also ability to manipulate other dinos/creatures. I'm not sure how could this be used gameplay wise, but maybe they could "camuflage" itself into weak herbivore and lure the carnivores, or maybe having Neuro by your side will be sort of buff for your herd - so you need to "work" for the Neuro, like hunting for him, and he will protect you/give you buff in return.

timber notch May 7, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Then again, dondi isn't a fan of mixpacking from what I've seen (idrk), so I don't know if that would mean neuro is an exception or not. Neuros would obviously have their preferences in things like dinos to pack with, prey it goes after, and what dinos it will tolerate around it. It's not really a friendship as much as it is a symbiotic relationship.

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A neuro spino, for example, could tolerate a symbiotic relationship with a small pack of dilos. The dilos would hunt for it and share the kills, and in return the neuro would provide them cover from most other predators that would take a bite out of the dilos. The spino, however, would have the option to ultimately end the relationship just by killing the dilos and eating them if the dilos are no longer of use to it.

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Neuros in general should have a bit of intelligence when it comes to surrounding creatures. A neuro spino would be able to make use out of another dino for its own benefit, whereas a hyper spino would kill on sight, finding no use in making allies and simply needs to eat.

steady ravine May 7, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Well following some basic balancing logic I think neuro will be the counter to hypo

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Neuro > Hypo > Tisso > Neuro

digital vale May 7, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Don't forget Magna(tyrannus).

sleek temple May 7, 2019, 3:56 PM

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magna isnt a strain

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its designed

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 5:49 PM

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To be frank I imagine that an EMP just paralysing the dinosaur/whatever you're chasing would be the least obtrusive thing in the game, aside from inverting your controls. charging an EMP would probably just stop the animal outright so you might have time to get away but this is turning into gameplay speculation

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though, just one last thing, it's more likely to be a vs set than a rock-paper-scissors situation. Magna counters Hypo, which counters the Magna, while the Tisso counters the Neuro, which counters the Tisso. Brute vs Brute & Specialist vs Specialist

neat steeple May 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I mean, if the dinos do have a chip in them that controls them, I imagine an emp might mess with that. Wonder what it would be like to scramble the consciousnesses connection to the body? Maybe that’s part of what the neuros where made to do, sever the connection if something gets out of hand.

hearty mulch May 7, 2019, 6:45 PM

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judging how our screens flicker whenever we get close to human structures, i'd imagine an EMP would at least do something visual

copper cloud May 7, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yeah

neat steeple May 7, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Maybe that’s what the strains are for, keeping everything under control. The larger creatures are overpopulating, send out a hypo for a quick purge and let it die off later on its own, a group of humans or a specific individual are getting too strong, send a neuro and let it fry their equipment/chip, and tisso...does something we don’t know about yet.

junior sun May 7, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Tisso is camoflauge. As in invisible. It can change it's skin.

barren kelp May 7, 2019, 9:40 PM

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so what would its function be in terms of controlling variables on the island?

mighty abyss May 7, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Probably more along the lines of "we can sell this"

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Tbh Tisso is the strain we know least about so it could very easily be changed by now

timber trellis May 8, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Hypers where designed to kill things, and the only way it would kill dinosaurs on the island is if it escapes, or the modification serum (I'm guessing hypers where captured then injected with the genetic material) leaks/spreads through the island. Like I said, hypers where designed to kill, kill what?

oak pumice May 8, 2019, 3:15 AM

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everything

hasty latch May 8, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Everything sums it up pretty good.

digital vale May 8, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Well, but why would you want to make such uncontrollable killing machine?

hasty latch May 8, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Well. Why not?

digital vale May 8, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Why yes? Making such a creature like Hypo would cost a lot of money, and doing it only for keeping population of dinos on the island stabilised is just ... dumb choice. There are other ways how to solve this population thingo, also - having killing machine that is infinetly hungry and can destroy everything just roaming around, it would sooner or later attacked the humans and human facilities and I'm sure nobody from AE wants it. There must be a reason to make these big Strain boys, like weapons against Echidna, "fight for the Throne" or preventing from something.

hearty mulch May 8, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Hyperendocrines are not a design

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they are an experiment

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They are not even originally in Apollo's custody

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They all come from a material that Phoenix Corp was testing

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Keep also in mind that Hyperendocrines were readily contained once the experiments began, and don't seem to be the cause behind why everything went to hell

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The only hyperendocrine that might have caused trouble is Colossus

neat steeple May 8, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I feel like hypos were, if anything, an experiment to see how big and how strong they could make something before it stopped being sustainable.

hearty mulch May 8, 2019, 7:37 AM

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It's more playing with this weird material from a company you robbed who had a few cool things, like a hyperendocrine rex and a magnatyrannus

neat steeple May 8, 2019, 7:40 AM

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I meant whyPhoenix was making it originally. Apollo seems like they were just kinda playing with it, “What happens if we apply it to a Spinosaurus?” “I dunno, let’s find out!”

digital vale May 8, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Also quite off-topic from the Hypo theme, I would like to discuss this - I was checking few Codes / Transmissions and, do you remember that gif with "They promised they could save me"? What if the AE/Whoever is behind this, promised some (random?) people help from dying of cancer, giving them immortality etc. by putting their consciousness into the dinosaurs, but something went wrong? I especially refer to these messages like END IS NEVER THE END ( = respawning after we die as a dinosaur -> our consciousness is put into another dino, and it's infinite "rebirthing"), seeking of help (they keep respawning and/or cannot "log out" of this machine) or maybe there is something wrong with their minds where they are loosing to the dinosaur instincts or whatever (SAVE US, FORGIVE US, HELLO?, WHO IS TRANSMITTING?, WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING?, HUNGRY...)

timber trellis May 8, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Yeah, but also there are words in the join screen like END FOREVER HELP and things like that

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Also, was the hyper experement ever supposed to escape? Maybse it was released to see how other dinos would react

river marsh May 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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If other Dino's are human profiles as suggested, they are just scared people wondering what happened when AE went down that are struggling to maintain their humanity after hundreds of lives as dinosaurs. Releasing a hypo purposefully for a "reaction" does nothing. They are already scared and suffering victims. The hypo is just another out of many deaths, just one of the most inevitable ones once you are spotted by it. It's like being a mouse put into a bucket with a cat. You are terrified. You don't want this thing ripping into you and eating you before you've even fully died. I suspect hypos are the result of someone getting into a means to mutate and trying to destroy everything as a means of permanent suicide if they can bust into the control room. Or even the replicator itself.

timber trellis May 8, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Or, it could be deaigned to finally "kill" people dinosaurs

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Ending their endless suffering

river marsh May 8, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Or a security measure to kill a very large organized pack that threatens the mercenary mission

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Honestly could be all of those things

timber trellis May 8, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Mhm

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Haha kinda like the security system in Lost

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But different

wraith nova May 8, 2019, 1:09 PM

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After reading few post above I had thought that maybe something happened and at last part of profiles - if they are people not just data - are trapped in one of buildings, or bunkers on island. Probably with some AE staff. It could be source of all that "help" messages. That could be also reason for mercenaries presence. Mission to retrive AE assets, datas from experiments and maybe people behind profiles.

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Also all three strains seem like weapon experiments, like in if they xan be controlled and if not what it takes to stop them when they do what they were suppouse to do. Probably those ruins were successful ones, at last it makes sense otherwise it mutation. But if it is mutation why only predators and so far why just apex mutated

oak pumice May 8, 2019, 1:19 PM

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If there are AE assets (profiles) inside one of the buildings on the island, and those profiles are being uploaded into dinosaur bodies, and the facility is locked down because of a dinosaur infestation...if there are any remaining personnel in the facilities that control that, wouldn't they have stopped the experiments until it was under control again?

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unless the Replicator has seized control of the facilities' operations and is duplicating profiles itself

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the strains could then be a defensive response, meant to wipe out the "rogue" experiments/the Replicator before they cause irreparable damage to the facility

steady ravine May 8, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Using Strain as some sort of medication could explain why they continue to breed such monsters

digital vale May 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Well, the personnel might be a) dead (eaten by dinos, cannibals, Echidna/Strains attacked them, or anything else), b) infected with some virus that "transforms" them into the cannibals (or some other thing) c) they escaped the island or they are trapped smoewhere d) there is just no way to take control over the profiles again. Back to the Neuro Spino from yesterday, maybe there would be facilities and areas, where we - as a dinos - couldn't get into (jammers), and Neuros would be key to these facilities thanks to their EMP and other abilities.

dusk axle May 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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or it could all be planned as a dark experiment, as of to test the capabilities of every asset, with asset i mean bodies created by AE and the souls of some sort distributed by the replicator among the bodies, with AI being the only genuine born dinosaurs

wraith nova May 8, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I completely forgot about AIs. They could be dino that aren't connected to any profile. Both ideas are possible. That would explain strains being rather rare, beside fact that Hypos can die out of starvation. Also look in transmissions some are disorted, it could point out that Replicator began to be kind of self conscious or was hijacked by someone, either staff or one of profiles. Also those messages calling out for help that we noticed, I think in death screen, could suggest theory about either trapped AE staff or profiles getting free/regaining more consciousness.

echo gazelle May 8, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Alright it's been a while but this is a quick theory. When the console interaction happened it stated that there are 12 active specimens, the 12 being the devs with each of them having codenames. Alfie was/is Dondi idk. They said that they are gamers/dinosaur lovers, so why wouldn't they take part in the lore of Isle. All 12 Test Subjects or Phoenix Test Subjects being tested or replicated on the isle. Idk. It's crazy.

junior sun May 8, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Alfie is the quetz

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Thronebreaker is hyper rex

tiny carbon May 8, 2019, 9:17 PM

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The devs are "Apollo Engineering Staff"

junior sun May 8, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Etc

echo gazelle May 8, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Yeah and All-Father is Magna. 4 subjects acquired from Phoenix. All-Father, Throne-Breaker, Alphonse, Nova (Idk about Nova anymore). But 12 active specimen. Site 12. Olympus. There weren't only 12 Olympian Gods but 12 Titans as well. The Colossus, Reaper, Echidna, and 9 more. This is an island of Titans and a place that proves there is no God(s). Idk it's all crazy, all over the place.

mighty abyss May 8, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Nova is Novaraptor, as expected. There were three variants of Novaraptor: feathered (1/3~ survived hatching), quilled (1/8~) and scaled/leathered (1/2). Assumedly all of them were purged during Inferno but those things bred like rabbits it seemed so there likely were some live specimens traveled over

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Alphonse was supposedly destroyed too but I can't remember where I read that

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(Magna), hypo, tisso, neuro, [colossus, reaper, echidna] makes 7.

digital vale May 9, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Wait, but isn't Alfie still flying over the Marsh? Or it isn't "canon" that he is still alive...?

slow delta May 9, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Well the loading screens mention hyper alfie escaped

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So hopefully he is part of the lore

digital vale May 9, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Well, it's almost 100% he is (still) canon, but I'm mostly curious if he was killed or not. We can still see him flying over Marsh, but if he was really killed, then that would mean we cannot 100% count on PCE. But - now I think I understand what Alijar meant, I saw similiar transmission/code where they said the Alphonse was destroyed/shutted down, but not the Alfie himself. That would mean there is one and only Hypo Quetz, which is Alfie, and there wont be more.

mighty abyss May 9, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Well, PC takes place during the second part of operation inferno as far as I can tell so that would be why Alfie is alive. Also, Alfie is short for Alphonse: it's a nickname, like how one oviraptor was named Rusty

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The mercs in PC are the second team to go in and exterminate the dinosaurs after the first team save Veteran got killed

digital vale May 9, 2019, 1:38 PM

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But wasn't Alphonse also the name of the whole project? I think I found it, is it what were you talking about? https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/890818887796768768?lang=cs

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

ALLFATHER.F REPLICATED.
THRONEBREAKER.F DELETED.
ALPHONSE.F DELETED.
SYSTEM RECOVERY REQUIRED.
INITIATING REBOOT.

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junior sun May 9, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Alphonse is the quetz.

sleek temple May 9, 2019, 4:14 PM

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ive been thinking about the names for the strains and magna

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TissoPlastic NeuroTenic HyperenDocrin and Magna**???**

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magna feels like an acronym

timber notch May 9, 2019, 5:00 PM

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magna just means big

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lol

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well technically great in latin

severe lark May 9, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Magna+Genus name of dinosaur

leaden nexus May 9, 2019, 5:21 PM

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is solus still the species name?

severe lark May 9, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i believe so

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Magna____ Solus

leaden nexus May 9, 2019, 5:22 PM

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would they all be solus though?

severe lark May 9, 2019, 5:23 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Hard to say

leaden nexus May 9, 2019, 5:25 PM

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guess magna rex's name is the lone great tyrant then

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I wonder if that has to do with anything pertaining to the two magnas in pc where one is dead

mighty abyss May 9, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Technically all the rexes in PC were magnas but Big Daddy was named for a reason

icy onyx May 9, 2019, 8:20 PM

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one time i tried to decrypt the morse from radio tower in thenyaw, but i had no idea how to do it. so i got a bunch of random letters. ive been thinking about it lately and wondering if it actually might be something worth looking into. it would be an interesting way to hide secrets/lore

junior sun May 9, 2019, 8:22 PM

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It's already been decided.

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Decoded

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Behold: https://taterfilore.wixsite.com/theisleslore

theisleslore

Theisleslore

vagrant dirge May 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Lol

umbral tusk May 9, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Since Tater’s website hasn’t been updated in awhile, would it be smart to make a temporary one or?

junior sun May 9, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Not much has been added since then though lorewise.

umbral tusk May 9, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Ah okay! Just a suggestion ❤️

tiny carbon May 9, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Yeah, a lot of the lore sauce has dried up recently. Really it's just running around in circles chasing our tails right now. Waiting until after the recode (which has teased at possible new lore) is the best course of action right now

slow delta May 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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well said

sinful hatch May 10, 2019, 6:23 PM

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@tiny carbon I agree.

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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tbh

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i feel this theory is wrong

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but imma send it anway

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DUE TO THE COLLAPSE OF THE AQUATICS LAB, ALL ACTIVITIES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO BE SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. ALL VIABLE BIO-ASSETS AND PERSONNEL ARE TO BE ISOLATED TO SITE-(1 LETTER) UNTIL GEOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF (5 LETTERS) IS CONFIRMED. STRUCTURES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO REMAIN AS IS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE USE SHOULD ISLAND STABILITY RETURN.

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📎 20190505010041_1.jpg

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📎 20190505010105_1.jpg

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the top screenshot is region 2

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the bottum is thenyaw

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if u read both the observation sites

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its site-04

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and if u read the last sentence in the top there

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STRUCTURES AT SITE-(2 LETTERS) ARE TO REMAIN AS IS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE USE SHOULD ISLAND STABILITY RETURN.

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site-04

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is the 2 letters

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and

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the islands stability has went off

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which leads me to believe a major scale changed the hole island leading it to become thenyaw

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and as both makes are the same size

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it partly fits in

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Well the top snapshot comes from the game's current fan trailer, which is now a little outdated, since at the time Region 2 was still the map. The second reel was added in later to add variety. They could have just not made the sites thing change with it. That, or region 2 could just be another part of Thenyaw. Right now Thenyaw is just that one area, surrounded by mountains implying that there is more land over them. Region 2 was an area that was surrounded on all sides by mountains that were supposed to keep the area contained. It could be that they are just different parts of the same island, but since region 2 has been deleted and is said to not get any sort of return, I wouldn't count anything that involves clips or pictures of it as canon lore anymore

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Not a bad idea though

fresh rivet May 10, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Not really stepping in to discuss the theories, but... @sleek temple it's HyperEndocrine

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:43 PM

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i mean

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"island stability returns" must mean the island is changing majorly

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like

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thenyaw has a volcano

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Island stability could also be referring to the stability of the Ecosystem (ex. the dinos on it)

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not necessarily the physical composition of the island

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it could tho, honestly got not a clue

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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GEOLOGICAL INTEGRITY leads me to that

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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oh rip missed that line completely

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Vulcano doesn't mean major changes. It all depends on what surrounds said vulcano. Generaly it points toward earthquakes/earth movements, depending of what kind of ground it is, in certain radious from vulcano.

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:46 PM

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^ I was just thinking earthquakes myself too

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Aquatic lab collapse suggest some quakes

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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yea

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but

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v2 never had a volcano

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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As far as we're aware

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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meaning some major stuff must of happened to cause a volcano to come

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theres also the lava cave in canyon

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Many islands are created from the stacking up of magma from under the ocean's surface, so it could be possible that Region 2 could be volcanically created

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if it's even an island

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hell what do we really know here

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:49 PM

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well

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assuming the volcanos went extinct

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and got plugged up

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i remember something about

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land moving across techonic plates

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and "hotspots" also moving

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Well the moving of plates would result in earthquakes more often than not

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Hotspots of magma usually means some vulcano soon being created

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:50 PM

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i mean

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a hotspot is like

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massive

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yellowstone has a hotspot below it which is its magna chamber

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459miles deep it is

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Not really, quakes happens when two plates are meeting

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:51 PM

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quakes also happen when they side across

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and when they pull apart

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Also hotspots doesn't have to be huge, Yellowstone is supervulcano

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That's totally different category

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:52 PM

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ik it was just example

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but

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in a few thousand years the hotspot will have left yellowstone

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mabye

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a hotspot has went across region 2 and caused volcanos to become active

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Look Iceland, it's active hotspot, it's growing everyyear a little bit. Also Hawaii and few other island archipelagos, generally Pacific islands

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:53 PM

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does iceland have a hotspot below it?

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i thought its lava came come the ridge

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:53 PM

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I'm pretty sure, there's shitton of vulcanoes

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:53 PM

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thats not what a hotspot is

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its kinda hard to explain

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i dont know much on it myself

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I know what hotspot is

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:54 PM

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well yeah it happens when 2 plates meet but if a plate is moving it's pretty likely it's running into another plate somewhere along its length. I'm not saying that the quakes are guaranteed just that it's likely, but of course this does all depend on how much the plate moves, in which direction, the size of the plate and another literal hundreds of little factors

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:54 PM

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thats a constuctive plate boundary

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when they pull apart

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lava comes out

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into them dome shaped volcanoes

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Iceland have hotspot underneath, literally just checked.

opaque crane May 10, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Iceland is on a hotspot

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:55 PM

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nice warm iceland

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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damn

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thats one massive ass hotspot

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yea ur right

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i wonder how long it will take to move away

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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but anyways Carno I doubt that Region 2 and Thenyaw are the same location that's been drastically changed. I can imagine that they are both parts of the same island, but I wouldn't even be willing to bet on that much all things considered

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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If we speak about sudden earthquake than it's plates sliding and building up pressure that would be suddenly released. Though that are really destructive earthquakes

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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for all we know

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Makes me think about all those dots on the server screen, wonder if any of those are along plate lines

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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a earthquake of magnitude 11.0 could of hit the island

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thenyaw is kinda odd geographicly

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it goes up 1 side

tiny carbon May 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Yeah but we don't know what the other side looks like. could be a million other combinations

wraith nova May 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I doubt it would dirastically change anything. Sure some places would collapes and so on.

sleek temple May 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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i think its north west it goes up and south east it goes down

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tycja

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do u know the magnifcation scale of earthquake

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every 1.0 u go up it gets 30x stronger

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the japan earthquake which was around 9.2 MOVED the earth by 4mm

wraith nova May 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Yeah but it would mean that most of mountains or other rocky base would basically be some soft rock that can easily be destroyed. it can change regions not whole island

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Also at end of quoted loading screen, if that huge earthquake happened there would be no structures for future use, it would all be ruins

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 12:04 AM

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thenyaw i is only 4km by 4km

wraith nova May 11, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Welpt, that would erase that island completely, also we forgot about very important thing that accompany massive earthquakes

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Tsunami, that would be another thing that would simply erase buildings

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 12:06 AM

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well

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problem is

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we dont know the time frame

wraith nova May 11, 2019, 12:07 AM

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We don't, but it would probably take a lot of time for trees to regrow, not speaking about dinos because they are artifically created

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 12:07 AM

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it would take about 10 years

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if i remember correctly

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after mt saint helens erupted

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when the pyroclastic flow

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destroyed the forests around the volcano

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it took 10 years i think for it to start growing

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back

wraith nova May 11, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Depends on trees, some grow tall withing few years some need decades to be called trees

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Beside, that two letters could basicaly mean anything if something is marked as site-04, there's probably sites 01, 02 and 03. So we don't know to which site it refers

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 12:11 AM

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id assume it refers to map

wraith nova May 11, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Good way would be checking if any dot, if they suggest potential sites, is somewhere near any tectonic fault lines.

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I wouldn't assume that. It could be future part of map or just lore that mentions site that will never be part of any map.

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Lore on site with all gathered so far lore meantions three islands with facilities. And two of the mare offline so could be anything

slow delta May 11, 2019, 11:55 AM

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A couple of months ago some new decoding was posted here, ill try find it and add it to the docs. Also ill try to estimate all the radar dots

odd pilot May 11, 2019, 1:20 PM

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o/

high heath May 11, 2019, 4:18 PM

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What

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 4:27 PM

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what type of code is that

feral pond May 11, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@icy onyx Is there an explanation or did you just post gibberish for sake of posting?

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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im assuming

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theres an explanation

feral pond May 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I’d hope so.

sleek temple May 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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could be a comination of types of codes put together

feral pond May 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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It would help if they narrowed it down by telling us what the code is referring to.

slim lynx May 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Prob just wanted peeps to think it's something when instead they just mashed their keyboard 😂

dull osprey May 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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or they typed on accident

feral pond May 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I mean if it’s gibberish then I’m calling it spam and kicking them from the discord for intentionally derailing this channel. This is a warning to you - @icy onyx

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If you do not provide a reason for your post, so long.

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I’ll give.. an hour.

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:18 PM

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oh its code

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@feral pond

feral pond May 11, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Where from? It helps people to know where you sourced it so they can try to help decipher it.

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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idk

feral pond May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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You don't know. So. Gibberish, then.

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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whats Gibberish is that code?

feral pond May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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It means something nonsensical, no meaning.

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM

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There is a meaning

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Its CODE

feral pond May 11, 2019, 5:20 PM

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But where is it from, is what I'm asking. Was it from a loading screen? The opening menu?

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Someone told sent me it. So I posted it here if anyone knows what kind of code it is

feral pond May 11, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Ask the person where the code is from, right now we have no leads on where to start.

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:21 PM

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ok

keen jasper May 11, 2019, 5:39 PM

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What kinda goddamn

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Who even sent you it

icy onyx May 11, 2019, 5:54 PM

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hes not answering me

keen jasper May 11, 2019, 7:19 PM

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who though

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What kinda goddamn code

mild basin May 12, 2019, 1:03 AM

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That doesn't look like any type of code. just looks like he slammed his face into the keyboard

keen jasper May 12, 2019, 1:40 AM

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^

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I'm pretty sure this is a troll or a "oh shit they actually saw me spam gibberish" card

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Irrelevant to lore.

coarse hare May 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

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I think, with the post of new spinosaurus, than head and arms of spinosaurus will change during the growth with the alimentation.

Look at these heads, we have one like a JP spino, the left one, it have a large and massive head, do for kill dinosaurs and fight.
The right one have a thin head and conicals theet, do for fishing and catch slippery preys.

📎 Spinosaurus_The_Isle_Remodel_head.jpg

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Then there are the arms that change.
This one is the top spino, it have powerful arms, have big scale and some crocodile skin.

📎 Spinosaurus_The_Isle_Remodel_6.jpg

sleek temple May 12, 2019, 10:22 AM

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@coarse hare this is to do with isle lore

coarse hare May 12, 2019, 10:25 AM

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~~Fack~~
~~I was doing the other for one with plamed fingers but it wasn't posted :'c~~

vocal violet May 13, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Any new lore for the isle?

past thunder May 13, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Depends on when you’ve last seen the lore

vocal violet May 13, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Is been a long time since last time I check the lore

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:02 AM

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im not convinced this game has any lore

junior sun May 13, 2019, 3:15 AM

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XD

digital vale May 13, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Well, I think there is a story going on, but we have terrible minimum of whole information. For me, I like conspiracies and I enjoy going throught old and new Transmissions and Codes, but I understand it's not for everyone. There is not much ingame lore, I mean, we have few buildings, from time to time Hypos running around, but that's all. But I believe it's still all in progress and we'l get more, we just need to be patient 😃

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:10 PM

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I say v3 is an island reserved specifically for scientific fabrication and development of dinosaurs, but then they totally fucked up and it got out of control, so now the only people there will be mercenaries looking for possibly survivors and tribals who were so bonded to the Dino's they didn't want to leave

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Meh

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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The radio tower is huge, it probably broadcasted documentaries and study information to an offshore reaserch place

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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yes

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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There are a lot of ports so travel to and from the island was probably common, signifying that this was probably just some large job or project

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Perhaps

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I think the aviary may have been the incubation center originally, but that doesn't explain why juveniles spawn on the beach

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Yee

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Probably because the devs didn’t want everything to spawn in a small dome

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:13 PM

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also, ap-sap 👀

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Wot

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I know what it is but wat

worn dragon May 13, 2019, 3:13 PM

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👀

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What I dont understand is the character screen/user HUD although it may be just a necessary adition....

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What I think would be cool is if the dinosaurs actually all have human-level intelegence and that the affinity system is part of the little chip that's forcing them to act naturally

digital vale May 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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dondiSquint

visual gate May 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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idk man just say their mind is deteriorated and merged with some code or whatever to make em think a certain way

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somethin fancy

junior sun May 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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The Dino's have an implanted human conciousness.....

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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O like that idea

wraith nova May 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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@gilded karma @worn dragon Under pinned you have everything we gathered so far, as of plain lore not theories. Also tgere's link to website. Would suggest reading some before going with wild theories that ignores quite a lot of what we gathered 😃

gilded karma May 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Didn’t know dat

loud fern May 14, 2019, 5:33 AM

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This is a pretty simple theory. But possibly couldn’t he “all island visitors must wear identity tags at all times” refer to the magic word. The identity tags being the “magic word”

📎 image0.png

trim comet May 14, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Holy fuck you took that JP meme to the next level

carmine marsh May 14, 2019, 5:49 AM

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that's something decoded from the main menu iirc, not just a JP meme.

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or the death screen

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loading screen, my bad,

📎 unknown.png

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 8:48 AM

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I doubt it, though it could have "magic word" as something that allows you to access more places, it kinda seem like some buggedout program or someone tried to access somewhere they shouldn't

oak pumice May 14, 2019, 8:50 AM

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~~or it could be a callback to Jurassic Park on which this game is based~~

carmine marsh May 14, 2019, 8:52 AM

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thought this game was based off PC

mighty abyss May 14, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Well, PC also had a magic word joke

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So ... Has anyone entered "please" into the loading screen, knowing this?

echo gazelle May 14, 2019, 10:10 AM

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I noticed this AE message pop up in the Stegosaurus Preview (I'm sure most have seen it), not sure if it does/doesn't deal greatly with the lore but I thought I'd post it here. I found it interesting. Similar to when the Pachy was implemented, there was a static screen that stated AE-012 G2-PCH. The Stego on the other hand is revision 3.0 so its code similar to pachy could be G3-STG. The description of the video said this, "Genotype v3 of species Stegosaurus, featuring enhanced musculature and greater range of motion. Scheduled for replication." We all know the Replicator chooses favorites as well. Also each previous models of most Dinos that got a new model look more fragile, just look at the Pachys old model vs the new and now the stego vs the new. The Carno in its G1 was more stubby/beefy than the newer model. Before the new Carno model even came one of the Loading screens mentions about the Carno, "Gen2 displays increased physical aptitude and metabolism. Subjects still suffer from poor eyesight and rotation during high velocity motion." The point being all previous models could play a role in the forced evolution/replication of the lore. Of course that's if the Replicator approves. Anyway that's it. Idk about all this though.

📎 Preview__Stegosaurus_Stenops_revision_3.0_-_YouTube_-_Google_Chrome_5_14_2019_2_32_03_AM_2.png

candid saddle May 14, 2019, 12:00 PM

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c

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Untill it's confirmed that changing models are part of forced evolution I would say that developers simply fix dinos. I mean look at Rex it's neck isn't as slender as fir example JP one is, it's more bulky, more suited to hold that massive head. Pretty much that model change is being more accurate to what we know now, just without feathers on dunos that we know should have feathers (except arms/tails in some because it looks cool)

slow delta May 14, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Im pretty sure updates are tied with lore stuff

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Not only the pachy as lunchabills mentioned but the allosaurus model change was referenced in the lore as well

digital vale May 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Not sure if it was talked about it there, but - is there possibility that Echidna and Matriarch are the one and same creature?

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📎 unnamed.png

shrewd plover May 14, 2019, 4:58 PM

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@echo gazelle You're a genius i never thought about that

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Wait sooo....the Matriarch would be man made ?
I'm so confused right now

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Also could Echidna off-springs be consider a species or just some kind of god forbiden mistake unable to reproduce without Echidna contaminating an other individual ?

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Of course Matriarch is man made, there's loading screen or something that is part of some scientist report and he claims it's not dinosaur, it's something new and he don't know how to call it yet.

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That is good point, it can be the same thing. Also Echinda's "off-spring" are different species infected by strain comming from her.

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 6:56 PM

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So you're saying Echidna off-spring isn't designating the cannibals but every creature infected by the Neurotenic strain ?
How the f*ck this thing is not the god of this miserable island already ?

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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There was mention to kill everything that was infected by Echidna. At last all staffthat went in contact with it were killed.

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Did Echidna was killed ?

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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It was isolated, at last it's what we know from lore

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Is there anywhere I can find everything that have ben posted on the lore so far without having to scroll for ages ?

nocturne cosmos May 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Pinned theres a doc

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 7:41 PM

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And site where for example is also log with informations that person who managed to log in into ingame console managed to aquire.

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Hah, can I get a catch up on Echidna havent refreshed my lore mind

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And I like the idea that the updates are part of the lore

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Yep. Also, I was thinking about Echidna = Matriarch for awhile. I was looking throught Console Interations and there was sometimes mentioned that the profiles aren't complete, that the only one will be - which might be a Echidna, because I remember I somewhere read about her being almost complete. Then - Echidna is supposed to be some kind of "god" for the Tribals, and there was mentioned she cares for them like for their children -> she is their mother figure, aka Matriarch. Back to the Console Interaction, this is something different I want to talk about... this part makes me somehow nervous. It's different from the other entries where the proffesors are "interacting" with the computer, because this generated response seems somehow alive. What if is Replicator some kind of AI Computer?

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Echidna? This bad boi, but her design will be probably redesigned https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/18251015-0196-4a02-acde-36f9c65097fd/db8zcuv-ba043854-cad6-410e-bd2b-579603837fdc.png/v1/fill/w_1024,h_768,strp/mother_of_cannibals_by_tapwing_db8zcuv-fullview.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NzY4IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvMTgyNTEwMTUtMDE5Ni00YTAyLWFjZGUtMzZmOWM2NTA5N2ZkXC9kYjh6Y3V2LWJhMDQzODU0LWNhZDYtNDEwZS1iZDJiLTU3OTYwMzgzN2ZkYy5wbmciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.FxkxERYV8nmbAIqB7JFM58eRFySiI0U4Mk9PfdriGb8

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Ah, they re named it. To me that was known as mother tribal/mother cannibal

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Ye ye, she is also refered as "Mastermind" or something. If I remember well, the tribals sees her as a god, she has bright mind, spooky powers and probably can adaptate to any threat.

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I remember conversung on her

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That she was a human experiment gone wrong

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And she was one of the people who had cancer and they promised this would fix it

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Haha clearly nor

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Not*

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I mean, if she doesnt have cancer anymore it technically worked

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:33 PM

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True

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Not in the way she hoped

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Oh really? Well, I personally think the profiles (aka the human minds inside the dinos) were people who did have promised some kind of immortality or health help, but most of it went wrong/they were all just some projects for science.

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Everything in the isle is some sort of experiment

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There where concepts for hyper plants

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Like trees and venus fly traps

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Glad this is a video game

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Dammit, I'm honestly really excited to get more information on lore. I love this "experiments went wrong" theme. Oh, do you have saved picture of those plants btw? I cannot find it again. Maybe there will be some "Hypo herbivores" that will only eat these plants under some condition?

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:39 PM

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It was in an old dondi stream so I dont have it

grizzled dune May 14, 2019, 8:40 PM

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https://gyazo.com/ca02a359d5bed98f8fac6dd42d2058a9
https://gyazo.com/241374317d6a47eb742167654732b1c3
These are 2 of them

Gyazo

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There are other 2 In #announcements

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Thanks

grizzled dune May 14, 2019, 8:41 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401469622659973120/493618066492489728/image0-1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401469622659973120/493618366007738389/image0-2.jpg
here

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Theres ah hyper spino in one of them

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Jezus

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Thank you so much @grizzled dune

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:42 PM

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no hypo herbies

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that is confirmed

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Next there are going to contaminate the water with hyper strains so now the water will eat you

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@dull osprey really? Thanks for info

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:44 PM

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yeah

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just think about it in a lore way too

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they don't have the same punch as a hypo carni

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:44 PM

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These plants little bit looks like they are made from spines... and on the first one, some parts seems to me like pterosaurs and spinos

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:44 PM

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hypo carnivores are terrifying, eating everything

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and all a hypo herbivore would do is eat all the plant life

digital vale May 14, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Yeah, I understand 😄 but I hoped little bit that our herbis will get some love

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:45 PM

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i don't think herbivores are getting strains at all, i could be wrong on that though?

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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They could become carnivorous

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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dondiFrown

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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theyre not getting strains. that'd be incredibly useless. playing a plant eater only to have your special thing be becoming carnivorous

left ocean May 14, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I'm wondering though, how would Herbis protect themselves from hypos, nuero, etc. carnivores?

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Prop not

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 8:47 PM

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they really don't. they die

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:47 PM

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^

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same thing to normal carnivores too

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Tisso maybe

left ocean May 14, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Like idk I feel like there may not be hypo herbis or whatnot, but what about magna's? Aren't magnas suppose to be the animal evolving to a more powerful, perfect form?

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Could the same be for herbis?

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I thought of them being a fucked up hyper experiment

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 8:49 PM

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i thought the only magna we know of is rex

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:49 PM

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No

left ocean May 14, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Well yeah the magnatyrannus is the only magna so far

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:49 PM

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The Utah on the loading logo is a magma utah

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 8:50 PM

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what please provide a picture i havent seen that yet

grizzled dune May 14, 2019, 8:50 PM

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This boy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIqDLzCVAAA9vpr.jpg
May not be this boy:
https://clips.twitch.tv/FuriousHelpfulPeppermintNerfBlueBlaster

Twitch

Banner Thing. - Clip of TheDondi - Twitch Clips

Clip of TheDondi Playing The Isle - Clipped by Extrahu3

▶ Play video

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i was never sure tbh

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 8:50 PM

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magnaraptor? i thought it would be considered

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novaraptor

timber trellis May 14, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I think nova is a different thing

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Imagine devs looking thru here and they're like "yeah they're close oh wait nvm"

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Hypo herbi could be interesting to play tbh , you'll need way to much food to be able to share with other creating a sort of competition between regular and strained herbi

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 9:49 PM

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hypo herbis would be shunned from herds and die quickly from being chased away from food so that other herbivores could eat.

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:49 PM

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I feel like a Magna Herbi could be possible

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Because if I'm correct, aren't Magna's suppose to be what would have happened that dinosaur continued to evolve?

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Regular carni don't stand a chance against hypo , why would regular herbi be able to take down a hypo herbi ,

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Magna would have a lot more sense or tisso, generally everything beside hypo herbivores

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:51 PM

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And don't forget that now there might be possibly grazing in the future

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But yeah anyway though I feel like a magna or tisso herbi would make sense

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Still it wouldn't feed hypos, their need a lot of food

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 9:52 PM

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it'd be useless and just starve other herbs, regardless of if others are strong enough to chase it away. a hypo needs a lot of food, and from what I've heard about trike, upping its metabolism would only make it worse

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Hypo herbivor would only make sense if you would want to clear big area out of any plants, threfore deserting it and killing other creatures by starvation

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

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And not to mention, although this is unofficial and unconfirmed, Tapwing did do artwork of Tisso herbivores specifically

📎 tissoplastic_stegosaur__by_tapwing_dasi67h-pre.png

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Hypo Anky

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wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Tisso and Hypo, but this you should consider more as lets go and play with that idea on some already armored herbivores

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Then you need to take into consideration the reason for the existence of strains. A hypo is meant to be a killing machine. Herbivores shouldn't become that at all. I'm unsure about the real reason why tissos and neuros were created, but safe to say there's similar reasons for them existing

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:54 PM

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The idea of having plant that only hypo herbi could eat could also be interesting creating point where hypo should go to get enough food herbi and carni alike

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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i think neuro herbie would be interesting tbh

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Here are these two as well

📎 nuero_and_tisso_anky_by_tapwing_db042xi-pre.png

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Neuro seem to be less intrusive way of dealing with things. I said things because we don't know reason behind all the strains experiments and I doubt it's just controlling dino population.

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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but tisso and hypo herbies should never ever be a thing

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Again these are unofficial art from Tapwing

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Not confirmed

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:56 PM

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yeah but they're awsome

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:56 PM

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but really cool

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yeah

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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So far we know that apex predators get strains which make sense.

left ocean May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Yeah

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Also, aren't neuros smaller that normal?

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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nop

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little bigger

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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and utahs and carnos

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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but thinner

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And squishyer

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:58 PM

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So I messed neuros with tisso, alright.

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 9:58 PM

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do you think dinos who get one strain can't get another

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or will there be multiple options

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Well utahs are kind of complex organisms as in pack is kind of apex predator, like lions.

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Carno, well we know it's frigging big. Hypo, I mean

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Fear the ultimate NanoDermoNeuroHypoTissoPercosaurus !

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can bend reality with the power of his muscle

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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spinos have both the neuro and hypo, from what I've heard so I can't imagine they'd only have one strain per carnnivore

dull osprey May 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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think hypo utahs were mean to form hypo packs?

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Ho do you mean not at the same time...

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Now I feel stupid...

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Idk why but I just don’t like the idea of human consciousness being implanted in the dinosaurs

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Same

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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It seems to be what most of what we've got points to though.

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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But who am I to tell a creator he is doing his job wrong

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

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True, it just seems kinda cheesy

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

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We have the technology to create dinosaurs what should we do with it ?

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Transfer human conciousness in them...

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:02 PM

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If that’s what the devs want, that’s chill, but as a merc I’d feel much more intimidated by a prehistoric wild animal , genetically altered or not, instead of Frank the Utah

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 10:02 PM

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I imagine it's to make them easier to control in some way

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Definitely....WAIT WHAT ?!

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

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When I come across a spino, I wanna go “oh shit, an unpredictable, wild animal broke loose” instead of “that’s a guy in that Dino”

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 10:04 PM

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There's a possibility that placing a human consciousness inside of another creature can seriously break the mind and cause them to act more like wild animals than the people they once were

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Shouldn't Echidna fix that in a way ?

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Wait...

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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i dont know much about echidna

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Is Echidna the only ally we have in this game

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I was wondering about what if AE used unconsiouss people, but to be honest that doesn't make sense if we think about whole we sit in front of computer kind of feel

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Y’all know what I mean with it tho, it seems unnecessary

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Like trying to infect and protect every creature so the can regain sanity ?

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I don't think it is an ally, you loose sanity when infected. I need to re-read on Echidna, but I'm sure you loose you mind

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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It would be scarier to have dinosaurs be legit animals, and strained humans as their own thing

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Beside herbivored, I would say that controling dinosaurs as human it only leads to making weapon. And we know that right know armies try to decress killed soldiers, by sending drones and remote controled vehicals

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I would worry more about Replicator, I don't know how it's position in lore but it seem to be kind of consiouss.

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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The point of drones is to not have humans out on the battlefield getting killed, so why put humans inside dinosaurs? Seems the same but with extra steps

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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So why would you used dinosaurs when you're able to ingeneer creture like Echidna or The Colossus ?

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Replicator is interesting asf, the only lore thing I really don’t like is the human consciousness thing

opaque crane May 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

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perhaps theyre convicts and undesirables who were sent to AE to be used for testing

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Because Echidna is freaking mastermind and it would control you instead of letting you controll it. Collossus, we don't know much about it yet, so we could assume it was experiment went even worse than Echinda

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Still consiousness is inserted via some thing called EIP. Basicaly assum we sit in front of some kind of computer and we control dinos via brain waves or something

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:11 PM

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How the F*ck could something go worst than Echidna ?

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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If convicts are sent to an island, it’d be way creepier for them to be experimented on with strains, that’d be some Outlast shit. But idk if turning them into a dinosaur is all that scary, if this game aims to be a horror

wraith nova May 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Colossus is hypo human experimnet, it could go very, very wrong. Also Echinda is isolated, at last it was stated it was still somewhere. And we don't know about Reaper and Colossus

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Yeah, love those human strains

steady ravine May 14, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Yeah it would have made more senses if we were just different type of mutated human trying to survive

paper herald May 14, 2019, 10:14 PM

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The dinosaur profiles with code names and shit seem better suited to an animal, instead of a sentient being in an animal body