#isle-lore-theories
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on the OG maps? i didnt play then but yes ive seen them
i think those were place holders at least the tank was
i mean whose to say that the mercs are not something to do with the military
or just privately owned AE special forces incase something bad like a break out was to happen
and assuming because of strains (not magna it doesnt have a strain to it o3o) are breaking out and they need these bois to recapture them
long story short it suggests one time or more AE or whoever needed some heavy back up for somehting
if u have a look through the pinned document about the loading screens
it seems strain substences or also treated differently
the about neuro stuff bassicaly says terminate anyone or anything that came into contact with it possibly suggesting its contagious
which leads on why they would be created but thats a convo for later down the line i reckon
fluctuation can mean its going up or dow
purging data buffers
wait
cortex corruption level
isnt the cortex part of ur brain
or spine
lemme search
In anatomy and zoology, the cortex (Latin for bark, rind, shell or husk) is the outermost (or superficial) layer of an organ.
found that
ok
it does show one around the brain
Organs with well-defined cortical layers include kidneys, adrenal glands, ovaries, the thymus, and portions of the brain, including the cerebral cortex
Udapting island manifest
applying ultraviolet protection
basically applying a fuck ton of ozone around the island
suggesting earth is in a pandemic
or protecting earth from something on the island?
well
if its only applyed around the island
cuz
sun gives out ultraviolent radiation
and ozone protects u from it
and ozone is made from merging hydrogen with oxygen
i think
may be nitrogen and oxygen
imo its interesting how this is coming into play after a gateway containment failiure
implying because of whatever escaped protection of that level was require
d
i will
-ALL ISLAND VISITORS MUST WEAR ID TAGS AT ALL G... TRACKING ERROR, PLEASE ALERT AE SYSADMIN. CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037, RE-SEQUENCING... WELCOME TO THE ISLE.SYSTEM READY. WELCOME TO THE ISLE.WE SUCCEED WHERE NATURE FAILS.DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END- LOCKDOWN PROTOCOL IN EFFECT. CHECKING ALL SYSTEMS.
all island vistors
oh ye i saw that
i assumed it had something to do with a tourist attraction or visit
"we succed where nature fails"
the ae bls 037 references the allosaur
i think it was a reference to the model that no one really liked
while ae have made it so u can die as anything and come back to life
CRANIAL ABNORMALITY DETECTED IN SEQUENCE DESIGNATE AE-BLS-037 is a reference to this allo model i believe or so i read
i think its just a reference put in for fun or some other reasone
well that model was used for base allo and it wasnt recieved well
i liked it
but i could see a magna allo
it isnt stated what magnas are limited to seeing how strains are apex only
carno is an apex
ah true
a fictional new species
no strain
This is old allo
"we succeed where nature fails" so we made a new species called the magna?
could it just be an attempt at a perfect life form?
oh man
isnt it perfect
been a while since i heard that name
but matriach is a confirmed creature
i feel like its the "extinction event"
which basically kills everything including the H colossus
how does it earn the title the matriarch though unless the name has unknowingly changed
i remeber in some of the lore messages it was mentioned
it could be that it takes all forms and is so the mother of all
but then theres the weird Manga rises up and takes the throne thing
does the magna kill the matriach?
i mean this is far shot
but
what if our skeleton in the lake
is a magna collosus?
or something of that nature
well what does Type H colossus orginate from
my theory for that is
if the reaper is a human with tisso tissue
and echidna was either a human or a tribal and became the neurotentic mastermind
then H collosus in a human the Type H tissue
and for some reaosn just damn surpersizes
it supersizing is odd
btw
.LEADING UP TO THE COMPOUND ITSELF. UPON REACHING THE STRUCTURE, SPECIMEN (7 LETTERS) BEGAN PACING. WE EXPECTED THE SAME TYPE OF RAGE ONE WOULD EXPECT FROM ANY AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL, BUT IT WAS SUBDUED,FOCUSED, AND CALCULATED. SHE WAS THE MATRIARCH, AND NO ONE WAS TAKING HER OFFSPRING. NOT HERE. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.”
well we know its a she atleast
also
wth are these clearnce levels
also
theres a hotel
oh so
v2 is connected to the neuro strain
Site I-04 is v2
AE - 001 is
v2 is region 2? im guessing
yea
im pretty sure Dondi hates that map so i couldnt see him making it cannon in lore
region 2 is site 1-04 where the electromagnetic flucation happened
i have proof thouh
unless its a just a nod to the past of development
obersvation records
they take palce in side I-04
and its thenyaw
i mean
region 2
oof
WIND VELOCITY: NORMAL
WATER SALINITY: NORMAL
PRECIPITATION: NORMAL
SEISMIC ACTIVITY: PROBLEM
now thats odd
earthquakes
tf kinda of strains is causing earthquakes
could be a holding facility underneath the island and something is just throwing a tantrum
and isnt there supposed to be a volcano on the island
might be a quake caused by it
but never re opened after?
ae 012
i reckon that gunna be the new name of v3
could it be v3
well
the link is verified
so it must be
cuz if not we couldnt play on it
i think
thats the lore way of saying "we got rid of the map now we go here"
sort of making old maps cannon
all viable bio assests and personall are to be isolated at site1 letter until geological intergirty of 5 let is confirmed
what map has 1 letter to its name
isla mesa 001 is the only one i can think of
and it did have bases stationed around the map on it
im going to try
to think of what each of the strains were made for
ill include magna aswell for this
hypo rex was made for the soul purpose of mass extinction and then dieing
a restart button
and also
a test of survival
test of survival makes more sense than a restart button imo but its still interesting
or its the ultimate being for a certain niche eg hypo rex crushing,hypo giga bleeding
u can team up with other species and control the weather
or u can choose
to trick them
make their noises
lure them to u
and control the weather in ways ur pack mates need or ur enemys dont want
why would they wont to control the weather is always what ive been curious of like do they thrive in certain condictions
considering neuro is the weakest
make it sunny to hunt better
that make sense
neuro is made for the purpose of tactical use
tissos
tissoplastic
the odd one of the bunch
though
before i continue
i want to say what i think the limiting factors of neuro and tisso are
neuros water need is prob rlly high like hypos food need
and tisso has stamina regen trash
isnt it confirmed or just theorized neuros are essentially built like a jellyfish
really thin skin etc
yea
a rex against a neuro spino that doenst use its abilitys
rex should beat it
now im thinking of a neuro spino causing tornados and then accidently going into one and dieing
this is probs stupid as its not weather but could some form of neuro have caused the unusual seismic activity or am i looking to far into this
possible
i volcano is more likely
i was thinking that
tisso i think was made for the soul purpose of sneaking
its speed
its size
its ability to map out terrain
its probably more like neuro
except u dont have a choice
i think its also leaning on the tactical edge
now magna
the one with no abnormailitys
no traits of being modified
im thinking forced evolution
the way the isles dinos grow up quickly
i think if normal adult dinos come in contact with any strain and survive it
ive always wanted to know if the growth times are cannon
they should be able to evolve into magnas overtime
i think magna was accidently made tbh
though the type m aquatic kinda retcons all of this
theres a magnaraptor and magnatyrannus and i think more to come
yea
magnatyrannus is the only one modelled
but that type m aquatic is part of the lore
so im assuming forced evolution
its like why creature strains,"normal" dinosaurus than a fictional species that right in between
well
strains
have a strain on them
as hypos strain is needing to keep eating
high metabilsm
ive never thought of it that way
it gains on all areas
calling them strains because there a strain on their existence
yea
thats how i think of it
neuros strain im guessing is water
and tissos is stamina
or just being smaller than there original animal makes them weak
i think they were meant to be smaller anyway
yea
but magnas
have nothing wrong with them
they faster
have more stam
bigger
do more dmg
i think we need more lore on them aswell to have a true answer but they seem like the ultimate life form
AE "we succeed were nature fails"
they live up to this by creating magnas the ultimate beings in different forms
it could relate to forced evolution
e.g rex and raptor
u know the way affinity is coming
what if u get max affinity and then get forced to evolve into a magna?
possibly but it depends how hard it is to gain good affinity
i hope its really hard
magnas are really balanced dinos
magna rex is like allo speed and slower than utah with ambush
how do you know that ?
i mean theres also the theory i think that the magnas are the dinosaurs from primal carnage or just very similar,you would have to ask the peple who have looked into lore more than me for a diffinitive asnwer
it used its ambush
it still couldnt catch the maia
it outstammed it in the end
well nat
i think primal carnage stole the magna rex
when people theoriezed a possible new name for the etc i came up with the isle:carnage comes home
implying PC takes place before TI
i think carnage comes home was in a tweet or something too but im not to sure
well
i think
instead of them competing
what if they worked together
because there are relations to them
atriucm B
the place where marine reptiles are held
its on the map contingency
and contingnecy is the only map with the cool electricty that kills everything in the avieary area
do you reckon is possible that its all a metaphor for don leaving PC? hear me out
AE and pheonix work together and bring back dinosaurs
phoenix corp is better at containing
a disagreement comes into to the play and AE leaves to create something bigger
mabye AE wanted them to contain these strains
perhaps we may find out during the story onces it all finished that maps on PC fore example the chasm i think its called or the atrium map are areas on the isle itself were pheonix tryed to contain the dinosaurs but failed? idk just had the thought pop into mind
ye thats the one
and there was this shutdown button
that killed anything in the avieary
sent out electo wave
the restart button
yea
but
it dint kill anything in the human areas
and the doors shut down aswell
back onto the magnas for a sec ive remebered something or so i think
when the magnatyrannus was revealed
someone is stream chat asked could a hypo magna exist and i thinkt he asnwer was a I dont know can it?
oh god
it prob could tbh
that would be insane if it did
implying that the "perfect life form as we put it" can also become the imperfect life form
but i assume not
well
too much food
idk theories a theory
well
as its not normal
ofc its gonna get a type to it
but the other 3 are abnormal in alot of more ways than magna
since magna doesnt suffer from extreme hunger i'd say it's not a "strain" perse
since the organism isn't strained
magna doesnt suffer from anything
its kinda weak i guess compared to strains
well
its only weak to hypos
which are rare
its basically the best creature next to hypos in combat
we dont know enough of the other strains yet
and even then which strain was made first
ever since the isle came out
hypo rex was eating a car
whats the point? or am i missing it
oh right
just becuase we saw him first doesnt mean in lore it came first
but it would make sense i guess
saw him first he was made first
if magna is a perfected hyper then hyper came first
i dont think magna is perfected hypo
if magna is a pc dino then magna came first
it oesnt make sense
i miss the console stream
losing size and speed
yes but gaining survivability
it loses the pointless armor the hyper has
more compact build
smaller doesnt mean weaker
could magnas be the failed yet successful first attempts at dino ressurection? they attempt rex for the first time doesnt go 100% and isnt a true tyrannosaurus but something greater
they try again and get the base dinosaurs then somehow move into strains
its probably a hybrid
unlike the hyper rex the magna isnt a rex
its some sort of other tyrannosaur
all i know is i would need more lore info before i could truly theorize on strains and magnas rn im just guessing
but
forced evolution seems possible
the tag forced evolution came with a tweet about hypo carnotaurus
but with how things changes that doesnt mean its directed at strains and was a misleading hint
forced evolution seems like it would have bad side effects for the animal
hence the possible term strain
it strains the body
magna which means great seems more positive
depends
Depends on what strain
what forced it to evolve
it doesnt have to be humans
exposed to something makes it adapt
Isn’t the magnatyrannus supposed to be, “the perfect version of the hyperendocrine” I thought that the strains were either wild adaptations or imperfect experimentation
The magna was the perfected hyperendocrine
Magna is apparently something natural
The other strains are forced evolutions, or experiments. Hypo, Tisso, Neuro
What is the point of the magna tho? It’s a smaller, more plain looking hypo Rex with better stats right
To have a bottem of the food chain strain.
Not like it's weak, but theres gotta be some hierarchy.
hyperendocrines and magnas both seem to be developed off of stolen material from phoenix
so whatever their plans were for them, we dunno
the assets stolen being those from Project Allfather and Project Thronebreaker
Allfather being B-442 & 3 (A certain rex skull and the first Primal Carnage Rex/Magnarex) and Thronebreaker being a hyperendocrine T-rex
The thing that always bothers me about magnatyrannus in the lore is how it was referred to as a failed attempt to make the perfect organism. What bothers me is why would they want to do this? Well, if I had the perfect life form, and I had the technology to inject my consciousness into other bodies, why not use it to put my consciousness into and become the perfect life form?
Sorry if this has been brought up before, I’m new to the theories page.
it would seem it is no longer the main attempt at creating the perfect organism. The recycling of consciousness throughout a cycle of bodies seems to be the new attempt.
Are we sure the goal isnt just weaponized dinos?
such a goal wouldn't take the dinosaurs in the direction they're in
the best weaponized dinosaur is a gun with fast fast legs/wings
A gun takes away from the game being cool tho lol
But if you look at the hypo and neuro genes
Those arent natural
I'm gonna use jurassic world as the example since this game took influence from it
The indoraptor obv isnt the best weaponized dino
But it is the start of it

Strains feel more like tests to see what they could do. How big and strong can we make something before it isn’t sustainable, how smart can we make it, and other tests.
best weaponized dinos will probably be magnas, although maybe the dinosaurs are meant to work in real life situations as a team with specific tasks, Hypers are the brutes, they deal and take raw damage of the enemy, the neurotonics are the brains of sorts, they friy electronics and control some other ones, and cause probably sickening damage or some sort of radiation and cell dissruption, tissos would be infiltrators as well as flankers, while magnas fullfill a jack of all trades sort of role, lets not forguet this creatures have souls that alow them to learn to perfection their purpuse, plus the programing input from the replicatror. at least imo
Facts. It makes sense imo. Have an island where dined roam about, let them reproduce or whatever, collect data via cameras and create new strains to see how they compare by putting them on the island
I thought Magnas were meant to be a less 'extreme' version of hypos, more sustainable? Stronger, faster and tougher than their normal counterpart, but not so much as the hypo variant. However, it also doesn't have the same issues with hunger. It could have been the prototype for hypos, or vice versa.
Magnas felt more like a perfected hypo to me. Hypos are too big and too strong to the point that they can’t survive, magnatyrannus feels like they realized that and toned it down to where the creature is sustainable. As for strength comparison, keep in mind that the magna reveal showed it killing a hypo rex.
That doesn't necessarily mean it's better than the hypo, only that it's able to compete with it and win, though how often it'd win in that confrontation, we don't know. All reveals have to make the new strain/creature look badass in order to sell us the idea of it.
I just noticed this
There's blood on the door handle
Any possible connections with the raptors?
maybe everyone on the island was killed by the raptors since they just opened all the doors
and the armed squadrons are going to be sent to the island investigate
Not all bunkers seem all abandoned, and two or at last one have some sort of blood stains on it. Seem that some places have been abandoned. Also cameras at some spots like dockyard seem to follow movement of dinos, at last I had felt like it follows movemet.
Makes me wonder if there'l be someday possible to find the control room with the records. Maybe the cameras will work some big/small part in the story or gameplay, like finding hidden areas or locating hypos.
It would make sanse if playing as mercenary you could get in one of bunkers and watch records or maybe live from some parts of island.
I think Dondi said something about testing possibility of watching live
thats already done with he didnt really do any tests
from what ik
the ones that arnt abandoned have the AE logo static
the ones that are abandoned just have static
But some places dont have static
The radio tower for example
And if you listen closely the cameras will pause when looking at your dino and you can hear the shutters close and take a picture
True, but it could be remote controlled. On other hand it seem there's some transmissions you can hear from inside
Yea the static could be either the humans trying to imprint on the dinos to be able to control them or to keep them away
I wonder to what extent we'll be able to get into buildings as humans, though that's getting into gameplay speculation
I imagine the static correlates to the currently 'functioning' buildings
I guess that static could be sort of keep dinos away system. AE did experiments with neuro strain and could already understand how to cause some disturbance in brain waves.
Could be caused by earlier attacks. I mean those abandoned bunkers probably weren't abandoned without reason
The dinos have implants. The static is caused by them getting too close to human areas.
Although, I find it interesting that the Docks no longer have the static, while most of the other areas do.
That too, but since you can see AE logo in those statics. It could mean that some sort of image can be send with some unpleasant things caused by implants. So dinos will connect AE logo with those unpleasant things and no longer get too close
That's the idea, yes. Why was it removed from Docks though?
So the dinos would come in and get trapped?
I wonder if the static was turned off because they want us to either see something or yea get trapped
Someone took out the transmitter there?
Crazy idea, what if the static effect around human structures be some kind of item that mercenaries can use?
I know this is more of a gameplay thing, but I doubt dinosaurs would be dissuaded from approaching human structures FOREVER. So perhaps it is some kind of item, machine or god knows what, that causes anything with the transplant to start seeing the static/hallucinations?
Yeah, it's a human item. It's in the lore. Humans implanted dinos and send signals to keep them away from the structures. Docks had it previously, now they don't. Everything else still does, I think. I gotta go check now
I thought the "item" we knew about previously was one that acted as a tracker, not a repellent?
Radio tower doesn't have it now either
Yea
I dont get why radio tower wouldnt tho
Feels like that would be a spot they dont want dinos to go
How do hatchlings get this implant?
If I recall, nested cratures won't have the implant.
So there will actually be a point to nesting
Mhm.
Keep in mind from a gameplay perspective too tho
Static is used to represent what parts of map arent necessarily done yet
Ofc they arent gonna keep it there forever
Hence why it isnt a docks
Good point, though because of logo people get curious if thar have some other cause. Plain statics that get's worse when you get closer could make most go away because why bother when you hardly see anything
Yea I was more addressing the guy mentioning port tho
if u go to a place for example
the ruins up at dump
u get just static with no AE logo
but if u go to the buildings at twins
u get AE logo static
Perhaps twins is a area important to AE
perhaps that’s where nested dinos will come into play. If you were born in the wild then there won’t be any implants from AE, therefore they can’t keep you from getting too close to their buildings and will lack other means of control (like maybe tasers?).
Maybe when human factin will be playable buildings with AE logo in statics will change look, as in look more frequently used. Logo could also indicate that some places have higher transmission activity
I was actually wondering if the buildings would be some form of lootable areas that can then be turned into safe houses to restock ammo and supplies
Perhaps. But then there wouldn't be much insentive to go outside... Ever
there would
My Isle Theory- Maybe the strains will only be attainable through enslaved dinos - Oof
@terse solar what do you mean by enslaved? Like humans have to capture the Dino then mutate them? As test subjects?
Enslavement is a more appropriate term for the "taming" system coming in with tribals. I'm assuming what he meant was that he thought maybe you could become a strain by being an "tamed" or "enslaved" dinosaur. I'm assuming it's just a shitpost though.
Lol I said taming in suggestions discussion just yesterday and someone said it's they're being enslaved- I told them it is the same thing
They are basically the same thing - only training is like a broader term for it
So, if I understand well - your theory is the strain dinos are tamed by humans and used against the... idk, other dinos? That would be interesting, maybe each human race (mercs., tribals, etc.) uses different strain.
that would be a stupid gameplay decision; having to rely on others especially other factions who are actively playing against you to become a near unstoppable killing machine?
it also encourages massive clans to stranglehold this method to ensure only them and their buddies will become strains to dominate the server
Don has said that being enslaved will reap benefits, to encourage you from just immediately going apeshit and trying to go down guns blazing, but what these benefits will be has never been expanded upon.
They do exist, there are mercenaries, tribals, and maybe somebody else.
^
so
the Type H quetza
was moved to Atricummm C after it broke out of containment
ATRIUM C
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.
this map is pc_contignecy on primal carnage
so the Hypo ptera is kepted in here obv
where'd you get that SS from @sleek temple
by the STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF AE PERSONNEL is what i think the (2 LETTERS is)
SS?
primal carnage
i see
extinction lmao
the map pc_contignecy
i think
i found the 11 letters one
Atrium alpha
and heres proof that its possible
hypo quetza could easy do that
Or you know that could be damage from Project Inferno
or you know, it could just be map design.

well there was a quetzal in pc
Oh i always wondered where atrium a was
B was aquatic and C pterosaur
Hyper alfie broke out of c which caused it to be repurposed for land hypers
And magna water testing happened in b
But i wondet if those are the same atriums
Since pc got operation infernod
Hmmmm
also
are u telling me it broke out of C aswell?
also i wonder if pc:e updates are including isle lore into certain maps
That's.. an interesting turn I hadn't expected. Phoenix and Apollo were working together then?
Unless Atrium C is referencing a separate Atrium C, it's strange
could the earthquake in PC be linked in some way I wonder
Because the basic premise of PC is that the dinosaurs broke out after an earthquake broke some equipment. Alfie, the Quetz, broke out of the Atrium and as of PC is still alive (he can be seen flying over Marsh in the PCE map)
and as far as I can remember, there were fliers held in Atrium A before they were transferred to Atrium C
all the Atriums are connected too (A led to B through sewers, which led to C through a Jungle)
The isle loading screens do not mention atrium a and hyper alfie
So i assumed its only related to c
well
special thnig about atrium c is that it has the electric kill all thing
so it would make sense if hyper alfie was moved from a to c
to be fair, the loading screen entries were written before Deathly was removed from the team, so I imagine that their info has probably been changed if it isn't completely irrelevant already
And the loading screens havent changed after all this time
It would suck if they were revamped because they are the most cannon and solid piece of lore we have atm
I tried to make some research and was flying across the pc_contignecy trying to find some clues (and bug into some structures, that was bad idea), and I found out some QR codes on the boxes in the hatchery (it's next to the room with the Quetz's anatomy picture) I don't know much about Primal Carnage's lore and easter egss, did somebody figured out what is it before? Also I found some info from dinosauriac that Alfie was (in original PC lore) only one succesful Quetz clone that survived to adulthood and somehow escaped Atrium C, killing everyone in the process. He was also originally supposed to be some kind of Boss you'd fight. If the PC a TI are really connected, I wonder if the Alfie was really only one adult quetz/hypo quetz. If yes, then that would probably mean the Quetz will be somehow unique to become playable, or you will die eventually.
I don't think anybody ever bothered with the QR codes, but they're probably just generic ones
they're on all those box types in the game
I don't know anything about Alfie being a "boss" however. The Kaprosuchus was supposed to be more along those lines but that was revamped into Hunt mode with Hunt Novaraptors (experimental cloaking technology, so it doesn't tie into Isle as of current). A tyrant-class maybe though
Seeing as how the tyrants are modified in some capacity (spinosaurus being the old bipedal stance representative could be explained in it being modified, acrocanthosaurus is the only exception here) I wouldn't be surprised if Alfie was a more derived variant of the quetz's
as for the Quetz itself, the model we know about doesn't seem to be 'hyper-ified' to any capacity, but a hyper-quetz shouldn't be off the table
well
the model of the quetz flying above marsh is just a bigger ptera model
thats fully cloaked black
I meant the isle model
@mighty abyss uhh you know that spino is getting a more updated model right?
they're talking about the pc spino methinks
They're talking about quetz model
Yep, they're talking about PC Quetz. This is him (he is just old reference to cancelled boss, he is just reskinned and bigger Ptera model) https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/445079220301968132/DD8CCD75F99E7135805D6A25F6F53D630858331D/
looks more like an anorexic rodan imo
If AE uses assets or simple data from PC they could create/clone their own quetz and later use it for hypo experiments. So the one from primal doesn't have to look like hyper-tidied lorewise, besides obvious usage of big Petra model
I have a possible theory of where the Isle takes place, unless it’s been confirmed and I’m dumb. I believe it takes place somewhere inside of Canada or even Alaska. The Geography and plant life seems to be similar for the most part apart from the weird jungle trees and it would give explanation for the Northern lights. It also makes a bit of sense since Alaska has some small islands close to it that could be like our current 2 maps. The United States has also been know to do some military testing there which may have something to do with the reasons they dinosaurs are on the island. I’m not saying that the Military had anything quite to do with it if at all, but maybe it’s drawing inspiration. Could just be a stretch of the imagination.
The thing is the trees could have been created with dna samples just like the dinos
There was something discussed earlier let me see if I can find it
Idk there was an image of a global position just under Mexico
In the middle of the ocean
Idk if that could be a clue to where this is
But idk about the aurora
Maybe that's the location of that underwater facility, and that Apollo has many facilities across the planet. Poeple were talking about those dots on the radar when you're logging in, maybe those are also other facilities.
Has anyone else been hearing a low pitched buzz at night recently?
Its not ambiance
It sounds mechanic
You mean that "airplane sound"? Yeah, some time ago people were talking about it and it looks like you can hear it at night at only few locations. If I remember well nobody knows what is it, but somebody speculated it's a part of Redwood ambient (but I don't think so.
Ah
It sounds like it comes from buildings
Because I only hear it around then
But idk
mabye its a sign of something coming
I don't remember the whole discussion, but it was in different areas, mostly up the hills. Who knows, maybe it has something to do with the Gate, or there is some kind of drone waitching over us.
Found it, somebody recorded back the sound. Is it this one?
i hear that too, i described it in here a while ago
but to me it sounded more like a deep buzzing
like from a beehive
i heard it when i was a sucho traveling to twins from the beach, mostly when everything's all quiet
Yup, I remember your post 😃 As I said, sadly, nobody knows what exactly it is. Wind, generator, airplane, bees... it can be anything. Everything we know now is that you can hear it only at night.
Really? Did you record it?
u can check it urself
ive got no recording system thats good for quick recordings
i wonder though why they never modelled it to be bent slightly or tilted
It's pretty late here and I'm going to go to sleep, so I can possibly check it tomorrow. Is that sound somehow... interesting? Like, can you describe it?
it sounds like metal being strained
Is it similiar to cannibal sounds in the Aviary?
Interesting, thanks for info 😃
sounds like a big cricket
ya know
dock yard doesnt have static anymore
and dock had the just static with no AE static
on eu 3 rn since its a ded server looking for clues
gonna head to docks
i think something was added there tbh
AE static
Normal static
my theory about these is
both dont want u to go to the place
?
got any screenies?
was busy at the time, rex problem.
but I definitely noticed the difference from the Dump Static
i dint see any static while at radio
when did it happen?
but back to my theory about these 2 statics
i think AE static means the area is still funcional or controlled by humans
and i think Normal Static is areas that are deserted by still have "power"
big docks used to have normal static
now it doesnt
and it looks more over ran by nature
suggesting that not theres no power
but that a the connection to docks through the replicator is gone
if its the replicator that causes the static on the screen to tell us to go away
Radio tower also doesnt have any static
Did it since last update?
and did people find out anything?
There is blood on the handle of radios door
perhaps someone was trying to replace the transmitter for the static when they got ambushed
well
suggesting how theres blood
i think a dilo may of did it
cuz hes a bleeder
and assuming he never got inside
where the person would be able to get away and get to the dooor
I mean I would assume he did
altho the door would probably be open slightly
since they probably wouldnt be able to get in without the dino getting in as well
I just realized
There are boxes near the door
Not decayed
not dirty
fresh delivered boxes
ignore what killed the person
for all you know it may have been something else.
but the power part intrigues me
Yea
The the only real reason we should be interested in looking to see what killed it is hypo or not
it is unlikely to have been a hypo
I mean isnt H utah going to open doors?
the H utah is maia sized
it coulve been anything.
I don't think it matters unless you found bullet casings nearby.
Ah
which is unlikely.
How would bullet casings change it?
he mightve been shot.
Thats true
or he mightved killed somethin
got in wounded
we don't know.
So what we have now is:
power is functioning
transmitter for static is not
Fresh boxes labeled fragile
Sticker on box may have clue
¯_(ツ)_/¯
is it the replicator
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
radio tower sent message to dockyard
but did the message make it
there is unlikely to be interference, so let's assume so.
well
we know docks is over ran
so depending on it
the signal may of never made it
so they wont get any back
the guy who sent the signal
is unlikely to be with whatever made the replicator
or at least is working against it
awaiting signal from dockyard may mean a coming event
the arrival of something ?
or maybe the message is old, and it is the departure of something.
well
what if
the guy
that had blood on door
goti n
and made this message
and sent to dockyard
cuz he thought
its the furthest away
it has to be still running
so he sent the signal to them
that's farfetched to say the least
as far as we know
from the affinity system.
and some of the old tribal information
the replicator does not have direct ''orders''
it doesn't force you to do anything.
remember the messages the devs can give u
so I do not see why it would matter in this scenario.
those are information
not orders.
yes
what if fthe information is
theres a human going to radio tower
and if affinity wants ur dino to eat humans
well
“suggesting how theres blood”
on the hand of radio
that doesnt mean... its a dilo
they are dinosaurs
a hit from almost anything causes immense pain for squishy humans
id assume night to avoid most dinos
and yet im assuming he went from the human bases from twins to radio tower
dilo makes most sense as its a night time hunter
has anyone thought about this pump at radio tower?
Like
why was it placed outside
there are very few parts of the radio tower exposed and it seems very idk how to describe it
out of place?
For someone to have to go outside of the tower to do whatever was with the pump
ah
i havnt noticed anything diffrent
but i did find something that means there was a railway system to the docks
Rip my utah
Broken hitboxes
Hmmm
Lol just got a docks spawn
Ill try to explore with my juvi see what being small allows me to find
and there was a railway or there will be?
ohh
So does anyone know what that ss stands for
found it on some of the lifty things
The little cars with spokes that lift stuff
Forklifts?
Lifty bois
@radiant tiger SS is an abbreviation often attributed to large ships
and I can see why, considering the docks are a cargo tradeyard
an abandoned one, that is
how could humans build these large structures with the interference of dinosaurs and just after building them with all the money and effort just abandon them?
@unkempt frigate they probably built them before the dinosaurs existed
in fact, they could have been lab equipment for making the dinosaurs
once the dinosaurs were made, they could have killed all the people on the island
and therefore maybe the reason why you see no one on the island anymore
Actually I doubt dinos killed all humans, seem there is some activity. They probably prefer to monitor dino activity in more or less wild.
thaytzz may evidence o3o3o
Lol yea I wanted to talk about it more tho
they dont though
it means they have a limited amount of time and its gonna be hard
but whats the mission
It only will die quickly if it doesnt eat right? Its like how they would starve lions in the colosseum
well
it confirms that the day and night cycle is "fake"
and is man made
cuz as soon as this happened it turned day
Oh?
Interesting
That means this could be taking place anywhere
Doesnt have to be a location with the auroras
only problem
is this theroy could be wrong if im right about tribals being there before ae came
kinda the same story as jurassic park
tribal people lived on isla nublar before ingen came and took it away from em
my proof is that there is ruins below titan lake
meaning the lake has to be man made if tribals lived there before titan lake was made
Hmm
That's true, though those ruins don't have to be made by tribals. Both giant skeleton and ruins were in earlier version of map in Forest. On other hand it kinda seem like it's just lower and flooded, so still suggesting that lake was man made
I kinda wonder maybe those messages from screens above are accidentally received by implants. That would add more twist to everything and could be evidence that human are still present on island
werent human minds the ones being inserted into dinosaur and merc/tribal bodies for testing by the replicator?
for all u know humans helped do that
I remember there where theory about human minds being inserted into dinos, but I don't recall anything suggesting that, though I just could miss that.
There was something mentioning making dinos do what "we", probably AE, wanted and think they do want to do it. Because they can't be forced to be controlled that easily
human minds were definatly inserted into them
same, the only genuine humans around could only be the director of AE, and scientists and subordinates, im trying to make som fan lore comics but times is a bitch, still i belive that mercs are just cloned human bodies ready to be habitated by the human minds
is there any evidence of human minds being put into dinos or is that just the current hot take
Supported by the death screen text to the right, and a direct quote from Don when he was talking about the replicator. If anyone has it, please do me a solid ‘n repost it.
Here's an idea; the tests are taking place in a gigantic subterranean cavern, with its own native alien fauna.
Some kind of Land of the Lost or Hollow Earth type shit, crossed with The Truman Show. The horizon and the sky are fake, a solid wall and a highly advanced holographic screen respectively. In reality, everything is miles underground in a flooded hollow, where the Strain plants and possibly the cannibal trogs were found in their unadulterated original form.
The dinosaurs aren't native, but the fossils are. Unusually high-quality stuff, buried far below where it doesn't belong in preserved and accessible form. Dumped by sinkhole, perhaps. The whole thing is an artificial ecosystem designed around dead things spliced together, livings things that shouldn't exist, and nightmare plant forms that even more shouldn't exis.t
As for walking between islands, the dome or cylindrical containment structure, whatever shape it takes, could be very, very large.
that's a lot of resources for a dome
It is a very large bioweapons company.
not to mention they use atriums to hold hypers and other animals already
so it doesnt really make sense to have a dome within a dome for a dome that hold things within said dome
Nonsense. Some things you don't want contaminating the other areas. Would you really want the Hypendocrine quetz flying around between all the test areas?
There's also the seawall separating the unfinished portion of the map. Floatation seawalls could just as easily be used to segregate water life between compartmentalized test areas.
I just can't see it being a large dome, sure I can see the island being a testing facility with human areas fenced off
and maybe seawalls
fliers could be engineered to have very bad stamina so they dont make it across the ocean
How else can the sky be fake, then? Turning the sun and moon off like lights? Unless it's a simulation, I don't see it.
server commands are canon?
All I'm going off of is the screenshots a little further up the chain here. "YOUR REALITY WILL TEMPORARILY BECOME UNSTABLE. PLEASE HOLD FOR RECALIBRATION." "POWERS HAVE BEEN REDISTRIBUTED. PHASE TESTING WILL BE MONITORED."
It smells a whole lot like an artificial sky. And why wouldn't an artificial sky have an artificial horizon?
that's usually for content creators getting someting experimental or a special guest
and dondi usually making it day time if its night time when he gives them said content
I wouldn't really use it as confirmation
but ya could use neuros for that
or at least the spino one
Don't ask me, I'm hopping in on some interesting screenshots and a man saying it means something. I think a hellish subterranean artificial world would be a neat twist, and it would explain the source of the bullshit alien plants that would be a harder sell if they were the creation of crude modern/nearfuture gene splicing & cloning.
This is the theories channel, after all.
yeah but we can already alter plants genetically
and in a scifi settings such as the isle it can easily explain the strain plants
I do really like the idea of a subterranean map though
But altering them to create super-pituatary disorder hormonal overdrive? Electropsychic monsters with human brain capacity? Plastic fleshed, nerve agent producing camo killers? Why not bake that into the dinosaur chimeras in the first place, why put it into a plant?
seems to be a common trope for these types of things
look at resident evil for example
That is true, but Resident Evil is at least a little more cornball than this world seems to be. I'm willing to bet the plants weren't manufactured. They were found. And with how Dondi was selling them as often doing 'horrible things' to the player, implying their being a more present environmental hazard than just a few laboratory areas, maybe they were even suppressed.
Beaten back, contained, exploited, while their former seeding grounds are reformed into something vaguely resembling the Triassic through Cretaceous eras with modern plants and animals. But the fields aren't quite fallow, and containments have this awful habit of getting breached in the horror genre. Double whammy of xenofauna experiments gone wrong.
exactly
now what I want to know is why they would send mercenaries onto the island
there's going to be a resource mercs will want to get and apparently tribals will want to protect them for the replicator
As far as the mercenaries know, containment and acquisitions.
seems like the replicator is supposed to be shut off or something
As far as our resident horrible bioweapon company is concerned? Live human combat data.
and doesn't want to be
that too
I'm more interested on the AI run cloning facility
perpetually keeping who are stuck there to repeat cycles as bizzare tribals and dinosaurs
Dinosaurs don't eat sillicon and cave trog monsters don't want to murder them. Lab techs do not have this advantage.
It's a matter of administrative redundancy. If everyone dies, the AI takes over and keeps the ship running.
Sillicion may or may not be immune to invasive xenofauna, on the other hand.
Or rather, xenoflora.
maybe it is supposed to keep running but then why send mercs to get the resources it need to keep running then?
sure they might expect them to all die but there is always the chance of the mercs succeeding and stopping the replicator
Having a dumb/semi-smart AI is expensive. Having robotic proxy bodies to do its own dirty work is expensive.
Soldiers of fortune are comparatively cheap and double as testing material in a number of ways.
Furthermore, if the mercenaries do succeed in stopping a runaway cloner, alien plant overgrowth, or strain dinosaur infestation, whatever might be on plate at the time, that's useful testing data and the 'normal' test cycles can continue afterwards, while the higher ups sift through the interesting breach data and maybe plan out the next one.
In essence, it doesn't matter if the replicator is or isn't stopped, as long as the outer containment is not breached. Whatever form it may take.
good point
it all makes sense so far
back to the fake sky though
they could be using a system like HAARP to control the weather which is why a neuro spino cam glitch it to make it rain and such
the islands are supposed to be the world as it was so outside of the islands something is going on
Gumming on that idea, I think that even in a fake subterranean sky, having a real atmosphere simulation could be easier than trying to make a big fluid screen over the huge ceiling.
There's this one huge NASA rocket dock that is so tall and wide that it's fully capable of having a precipitation cycle. Set up a basic blue backdrop to obscure the cave ceiling, add a little of the appropriate lighting here & there, and put your 'sun' on an unseen track. Like a gigantic UV lamp, ratcheted up to the effective output of the sun after it's done getting through our atmosphere. Then, control the precipitation cycle at will with a sci-fi HAARP deal.
Question is, how to fake the aurora if it's neither a holoscreen nor a virtual simulation?
if you have an atmosphere simulation you can always heat it up for that
like how solar winds do it
but whats the point in doing that?
Maybe it's a side effect of the reincarnation process.
Brain jacking consciousnesses between bodies, human or dinosaur, and not necessarily to their respective original forms.
Polar lights are an electromagnetic disturbance, and the brain is an essentially electric piece of meat machinery. If they're controlling the flow of precipitation, why wouldn't they create and control the electromagnetic flow too?
Hell, maybe the lights are how they keep perfect wireless contact with every brain in the test program at all times ala the Affinity system. Not through implants, but through invasive electric monitoring.
You think mercs'll be able to craft tinfoil hats? We're swiftly heading in that direction.
Tinfoil hats endgame gear confirmed
That underground thing is interesting. As for alien like plant, easy testing on plants before dinos to extract working/useful strains
@sleek temple I'm going to stop you on that day/night cycle are confirmed fake for 1 reason. I know this is late, but that picture that says powers have been redistributed phase testing will be monitored, you say that right after it it turned to day. Well, I wouldnt say that anything that happens off of official servers count as confirming anything. On that screenshot theyre using global chat and theres an admin that isnt any of the official server admins in the chat. Regular admins of servers can adjust time of day as well. And the devs may be the only ones who can activatw those sorts of messages, however the devs do help out server owners to make things interesting. Last night on IGP's server, Fozer was sending announcements like that along with Icy to help a streamer get some content. Anything that happens off of official servers should never be taken for canon
And for everyone else questioning it, yes human minds are being inserted into the minds of dinosaurs. There's a transmission that talks about it and about thats why they needed ti implement the affinity system. There was also a console interaction eons ago now that talked about EIP's being distributed through Gateway and all kinds of other things that point to it
Its not new tbh
just a theory doh
@tiny carbon Thanks for clarifying doubts about human minds being inserted into dinosaurs. I wasn't sure if it was theory or fact, sometimes it mixes up when you try to follow few things
I do agree with day/night cycle, if there's no information about it we should assume that it was done via command
Yeah, its hard to follow these days with everyone throwinf in theories right now. Honestly, i woukd wait ti start theorizing again until after the recode since they teased the new blue color and since (i think) primal carnage has been officially linked, thatll change up the lore again too. Better tk wait and ser until after the recode. And pardon all my typos, im on mobile and my phone doesnt autocorrect
hello! I was listening to a podcast the other day about paleobotany that made me curious about the isle story (since most of the plants seem to be more modern in the isle), I'm not sure if that should go here or in discussion but namely what is the story of the isle? Like, in terms of why dinos are there is it a found island previously unknown or was it kinda jp style engineered (if people have guessed that yet?)
Modern day biological experiment on an Island gone wrong. Human Consciousness implanted into dinosaurs for testing and also genetic experimentation.
didn Don himself said that nothing happened by accident in AE, so this alledged go wrong was all the time planned?
ty Lethal! shame, I'd love to see the plant life match as well it'd be so gorgeoussss
oooo, conspiracy
If human consciousness was put into dinosaurs how are they able to communicate
They wouldnt magically start speaking dinosaur
we make specific sets of noises that translate into words in our minds. we're fast learners; at the bare basics, its likely that if you were put into a dinosaur body, you would be able to make sounds much like the calls we have that differentiate very generic/basic things such as friendly, hostile, etc. If you build upon that with a large group, or raise young, (especially if you raise young) then with the time invested language gets built again. birds, monkies, and meercats make varying noises depending on specific predators and dangers, or if they find a certain food, etc.
A different language is different than being able to train our minds to operate a new body and replicated sounds to communicate in a non verbal manner
Considering when you first spawn on you can already make sounds there is no development
The whole minds in dinos thing just seems like a stretch to me
Um you do realize that when someone’s mind is transferred knowledge of how to communicate and such could be implanted
could also be using profiles that have been doing this for many years by now, so we skip the whole learning curve
To me it makes sense only if the whole island is a simulation
Poggs
@junior sun I've read everything compiled on the website and I found nothing on what you mentioned about the different Tribal variations, such as the Ravager. I found mention of the Reaper and the like, but nothing further than that.
In the upper right corner, click on The Lore, then the down arrow next to it
Lore, then the Down Arrow next to Strains\
Then Humanoid Strains
Reaper is Tisso Human, Echidna is Neuro, Colossus is Type-H
Took me a while to figure out the down arrow thing, there's a lot more info when you do.
@viscid pulsar did you see this?
And yeah, it's not ravager. It's reaper. My bad
@celest drum when i get onto my PC ill post everything that confirms human minds being put into dinos
Um you do realize that when someone’s mind is transferred knowledge of how to communicate and such could be implanted
Or are we just gonna skip that
but can knowledge be removed?