ah ok
#isle-lore-theories
edgy pike
rustic knoll
@rich breach Never tag Devs ever. Your only warning.
icy onyx
Who tagged?
rare atlas
So how about those cannibals?
dusk axle
what cannibals?
rare atlas
The cannibals that look like crazy ass aliens
nocturne cosmos
what about em
feral pond
Please keep casual discussion to #401464048610312195 or #401470471750811669
hearty mulch
They be either neurotenic humans or neurotenic orcs
fallen ledge
I thought cannibals got replaced by tribals?
hearty mulch
not replaced, they just aren't named cannibals
they neuro-somethings
while the cannibals are now the orcy mutant tribal batmen
oak pumice
the tribals ARE the cannibals
gloomy wave
I'm still gonna refer to them as cannibals because it's hella confusing and they are physically different enough from tribals to be given a different name for clarity
either way
they pretty fucking nasty
gloomy olive
has anyone talked about strange noises in the water that sound like a far away juvie trike 1 call?
i have a recording but i wont post it yet
gloomy wave
Oh man
I keep hearing them and thinking I can eat something
it's both annoying and- well annoying
gloomy olive
ill upload it in a second
wait ill see if i can convert to mp3 to make it easier
may be ambient sounds
to make you feel sacred
i got one more
they probs mean nothing
but thought id just put them there
echo gazelle
Okay, so the B-443 logo could just represent a Phoenix, which in greek myth was a unique bird that lived for centuries, died in its own ashes to be reborn again and begin a new life cycle. Phoenixs were associated with the Sun, therefore Apollo, god of the sun. The Phoenix International logo has a globe on top of a DNA strand with a set of wings. Apollo Engineering's logo is AE with a DNA strand in the center, along with a Globe in the background but no wings. Although when you start up the Isle, you get a glimpse of Hermes Staff. Which nods to Phoenix, Apollos previous life? So if there will be several Islands, each Island will contain memories of the past lives you have lived but as the same person OR the Island can just be one Island itself but changes drastically throughout each life cycle that you can't remember where you are each time you are reborn again. Representing the Transmissions such as:
The End is Never the End-
This is not the world as it is. This is the world as it was. The untouched land will break apart with monoliths of the past until time catches up with itself.
Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.
Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do.
nocturne cosmos
wait did Apollo steal shit form Phoenix?
which would mean there just two diffrent comapnies
echo gazelle
Apollo acquired assets from Phoenix in Operation Inferno. Inferno is Fire, Phoenixs die from what they are, Fire. So Apollo could very well be a reborn image of a Pheonix. Since they both represent the Sun.
placid harness
Those water sounds. Very eerie.
Honestly, I don't even want to know what aquatic horrors AE has come up with,
IIRC due to size issues with the most recents magnas they basically had to all be done in Atrium B from then on (Atrium B is the aquatic one, I believe)
And then I think the aquatics lab collapsed?
I'm not sure if the aquatics lab and Atrium B are the same thing. I'd assume they are
placid harness
I still chuckle about this
placid harness
I'm sure that if they really wanted to they could wage some serious biological warfare onto pretty much everything.
Being able to modify a single strain of a virus must be child's play to AE, who deals with complex multicellular organisms with unnatural abilities.
winged torrent
Um, there's is actually a dinosaur called Thanos simonattoi
halcyon stirrup
Yeah, I just forgot what it was called lol
The plot thickens
Lol, what if The Isle plot was just one big pop culture reference
winged torrent
That would be funny. and it's not a very big dino. It's only 5.5–6.5 metres (18–21 ft)
halcyon stirrup
I can totally see it being just 5 different significant pop culture references jumbled into one with a little finesse
But than you have the stuff Daffy's talking about and it really gets you wondering
winged torrent
Yep. But I would wonder what it's hypo would look like
rustic knoll
@winged torrent Don't post unrelated images to the intended discussion of this channel.
winged torrent
Right. Sorry
tiny carbon
Just gonna leave this hear for people to mull over, but right after one of the official servers restarted and I was one of the first people to log on, upon logging in all of the sounds like the birds and such sounded like they were being drowned out by the sound of something close to a distant plane or helicopter even. Was really quite jarring to hear once I could focus on the sound because it sounded distinctly out of place once you realized it was there. It eventually faded away and the normal ambience returned. If it wasn't some form of aviation passing by, it could have also been a representation of the sounds "loading in" in sort of the only way I can imagine an older TV doing when you power it on and the image fades from black to, eventually, your scheduled program.
oak pumice
in JP3 it's established that the dinos are made on one island, then transferred to the park which is on another island
and i've heard that eventually we'll "spawn in" through a crate being airdropped down to the island
tiny carbon
True, but that wouldn't explain the sound being in now though.
And it never sounded like it was really close either
oak pumice
🤷 maybe just a fun thing for people to find
tiny carbon
Beats me, just something I noticed and wanted to see if anyone else has/could as well
oak pumice
like the "you shouldn't be here"'s under the map
echo gazelle
There's another sound that I'm surprised nobody has brought up yet, which is the whoosh sort of sound right when you join a server. Could be related to Profiles being transferred.
gloomy olive
Like when you enter the world in sword art , now I just imagine the person being sucked into the computer lol.
But I adore what you have been putting down @echo gazelle it really makes a lot of sense
I always have m volume high, so I notice a lot of noises but never been able to capture them, in the main menu I always here an Juvie allo 2 call and sniffing
But why would there be sniffing ? If your sitting there on a computer if you were human you would be already dead
And all the doors slamming
maybe you've gone insane 🤔 because you've been constantly transformed and killed and transferred
It doesn't sound like it would be good on the mind and mental state
but it also brings up questions like why are you sitting in front of a computer in the middle of a derelict facility
however as i said might just be noises
nothing behind it
rich breach
maybe it wasnt derelict when you were entered - however now your consciousness is in the system it loops back to the start point for you
or perhaps the external areas seem derelict, but there are still a number of labs/sections within the facility that are working. Remember it could be that humans are no longer able to go "outside" the facility but within they still operate. kinda like Lost
gloomy olive
or maybe youre in the computer and you are hearing what is outside, the person controlling it is picking where you go
rich breach
and alot of the buildings dont have finished exteriors
gloomy olive
yeah
rich breach
perhaps, perhaps it is system generated to prevent panic setting in at your lack of existance
gloomy olive
i also think how its really earie that theres no ambient noise in the loading screens
rich breach
or to prevent the knowledge that you are trapped forever? perhaps when the accidents that resulted in evac meant they werent able to "unhook" you, thus you exist wholly within the computer. But the AI wants to prevent your neural degregation by making you think there are still people there and that it is still the same "testing" session
gloomy olive
ah yeah
rich breach
or perhaps it means nothing and Dondi and co are just screwing with us, whilst cackling madly the whole time
thick copper
Has it been discussed that the door is quite literally the other side of the door in the PC: Genesis trailer?
Looks remarkably similar
icy onyx
<@&401466542140817419>
shut lichen
wow rude i posted it in response to mention of thanos dino
rustic knoll
@shut lichen It has nothing to do with this channel. Don't meme.
shut lichen
okaaay
fallen ledge
@thick copper yes already got mentioned here and discussed pretty detailed
glossy walrus
u right tho @thick copper
keen jasper
so does anyone have any ideas on why the player is a dinosaur?
in the character tab there is clearly a tracking system on "you" if the dinosaur even is supposed to be a player
or maybe whatever you're playing as is just a target/what you're watching
mighty abyss
what's better than a human? A dinosaur
why wouldn't you put people's minds into them
I mean, yes, no thumbs, but hey no more back problems
keen jasper
thats one of the theories going around rn isnt it
that the dinos have human minds/souls??
shut remnant
hmm I believe it's kinda confirmed, since dondi described affinity by saying something along the lines off the dinos being a husk you control, yet they still have the faint control of what they want which comes in the form of affinity
keen jasper
ah
shut remnant
also in the future you'll spawn in through airdrops(if you're not being nested), as such the tracking system is likely a chip on you so humans are able to track you
ofc if you get nested you won't have this chip, which will be one of the benefits of being nested
keen jasper
ye
loud yacht
The Isle was once like a Jurrasic Park or World,but without the hybrids,but instead with Hyperencidon experiments,and most of the facility has weathered and just became normal rocks and shit,and the humans either went extinct because dinos,or fled.HOWEVER,the hypos were limited and eventually they began to dwindle in numbers because there weren't many.
I mean,why else would they have a giant Aviary?
fair cosmos
if it was just the hypoendocrin experiments, why is there normal dinosaurs everywhere?
loud yacht
Well,they had normal dinosaurs,but unknown to the public the hyperencidon experiments were happening
And then the hypos probably broke out or a normal dino found a way out and then yeah
keen jasper
hmm
why do the mercs exist :?
whatre they there to do exactly, are they literally just pit against the human minded dinos?
loud yacht
They were probably security keeping the dinos (and the hypos) in check
keen jasper
hmm. i suppose
loud yacht
Like the ACU in JW
A hypo rex escapes,and then catastrophe
On thenyaw maybe after years it broke apart from V3 or another island and thats why we dont see too many facilities
loud yacht
Mhm
keen jasper
they have your mind or whatever and the tracker
but then
how do the babbys thatre breeded naturally work?
loud yacht
?
keen jasper
how do they get the human mind, i dont think theyve got the whole tracker thing
loud yacht
Oooh
keen jasper
ye it was stated earlier theyve not got the tracker
loud yacht
So,like,say there's a human scientist making dinosaurs,and they're also seeing what they can do about hypos and he has a "prototype" of a baby rex in a bar cage,and he tries to study it and also like get some dna or somethin and the rex is like nO and bites him,and he loses blood,and he has a test tube labeled "dino dna" (im assuming they like used like the base dna of one dino for other dinos idk) and his blood gets into it,and he goes to the medic and another scientist finds it and assumes "oh hey dna but not much so lemme get some more" and knocks the dinosaur out with tranq and then he gets the rex dna,and they mix
IDK,I'm not a scientist,just a though
thought*
fair cosmos
shrug
that seems like it woudn't put a human "mind" into a dinosaur but instead make some sort of freaky hybrid or whatever
fair cosmos
shrug
loud yacht
who knows
loud yacht
bc theyre idiots
Maybe they aren't an actual human mind,just as intelligent as humans
tiny carbon
They're not. One way or another they do have a human controlling their actions. Whether they are finding a way to put human conciousness into the dino, or it's something simpler like remote control, the dinos are being forced to obey our commands.
keen jasper
is this just the hunger games but dinosaurs??????
tiny carbon
This is as widely as accepted as it is because of all the evidence that's been presented as well as little side-hints
keen jasper
ye
in character your body is referred to as "asset"
and again theres that tracking thing in the corner
tiny carbon
I mean, not entirely illogical, but not something I would throw probably millions of dollars into doing. I imagine the technology alone is insane not counting anything else in regards to price.
keen jasper
prob
dusk axle
so from what i gather, a dinosaur is a body, and the player the soul so to speak, the reason you can respawn is becasue of the proctreator or that thing that was mentioned some time ago, a system/machine/deity that allows you to become either a dinosarur, a human or a cannibal..., could it be that even the mercs are just empty cloned bodies for one to take control of?
outer dagger
not sure if this is considered a theory but this is my first time playing in a month
does anyone else hear that distant what sounds like a beehive except at a lower pitch?
what the hell is that
during normal gameplay i constantly hear it
loud yacht
What tracking thing?
Also,I can't really see them having human minds or whatnot (no offense)
echo gazelle
@loud yacht This
loud yacht
Perhaps the dinosaurs had a tracker put inside them...
placid harness
the aviary does use the redwood ambience, it is important to note.
autumn kestrel
Why the fuck do dinosaurs see tv static it doesn’t make sense
R they robots
Ping me when u wanna discuss
echo gazelle
@loud yacht Yes, they have trackers in them. It's been discussed before. Also this stream confirms it.
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/DreamyObservantMouseGOWSkull?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
coarse sonnet
maybe tv static is just a profile connection interference, not dinosaur vision interference
echo gazelle
@autumn kestrel If you want to have a better understanding. I would suggest checking the pinned messages above and start with Tater's website, then begin reading through the Document created by several community members. But to break it down, similar to what GeekSpider said, it has to deal with our connection to the mainframe, it has been years since someone last Logged In (Before in the Main Menu there was a Login button). Currently there has been a connection lost and a system reboot is required to continue replication, since the release and replication of the Maganatyrannus, The Island has been in Lockdown.
digital vale
Wait, didn't Dondi comfirm that TV statics mean this area is still in progress or smthng?
leaden nexus
static means you're near human structures. In the future, dinosaurs that are nested in won't have that issue since their asset won't have tracking chip inside them to disrupt their vision near said structures.
icy onyx
Static means that the structures are not ready and they need to be worked more
carmine marsh
@echo gazelle i'm late as always
however this is what dinosauriac said after someone posted anths video where he eh.. i'm not too sure i didn't watch it but it had something todo with what you're pointing out.
outer dagger
@echo gazelle i was nowhere near the aviary. i was heading to twin lakes
spawned at the beach, walking through the forest and began hearing noises, got to twin lakes and the noises stopped. strange to me
oak pumice
anth thought the clicking noises in the redwoods ambience was proof of cannibals being kept in the dome, basically
last nebula
@narrow geode This channel is for discussion of the game's lore. Please keep it on-topic.
Cleared clutter.
echo gazelle
carmine marsh
@echo gazelle both of those sound like some of the redwoods ambience
remember when everyone was saying "oh i hear sauropod sounds in the redwoods"
that's what those are
echo gazelle
@carmine marsh Yeah they are Redwood ambience. I heard them back when Redwoods were in as well but couldn't quite make out what it was.
carmine marsh
sounds like cama calls to me
could be wrong ofc
or if not cama
maybe the brachi calls were made 8 months ago
echo gazelle
Yeah, I was thinking Brachi sounds but, they are all just random noises that can't be confirmed whether they actually are something. I just get laughed at in the end for trying to find something unique 
carmine marsh
and used in redwood sounds until brachi was done
echo gazelle
Yeah who knows. Could actually be something but maybe not. The H.Rex sounds were updated though, you can check it out on the new Isle Youtube channel. Sounds terrifying.
leaden nexus
you got a link to that @echo gazelle ?
bronze fox
Goodness, what are these scientists trying to hide?
Could there be more to this Project Olympus than what’s known?
placid harness
It's reasonable to assume we don't know everything.
keen jasper
we've learned a tiny bit from the twitter
bronze fox
It’s crazy enough with those Strain monsters around, what other monsters could they be hiding in there?
visual gate
yaaaa but its generic
digital vale
Well, if I remember well, Dondi showed Titanoboa in one of his streams. I think he said it'l take some time before they'l add it into the game, so I don't think it's now relevant.
narrow geode
welp but did you know Dondi has mabye started working on it again?
carmine marsh
looter just said some stuff about Titanoboa in #401464048610312195
and this really isn't the place to be talking about it
digital vale
Also guys, just wondering - I was checking The Isle OST, especially this song "Thousand Life Contract" which reminded me of that text that was shown ingame. I didn't get a chance to play game for awhile, where can we find this -song- in the game? (Like menu, or randomly when playing, etc.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UYURvKWq2M
digital vale
Well, about lore? What else?
narrow geode
That’s s theory
carmine marsh
:I
narrow geode
mhm
carmine marsh
it's not an isle theory
narrow geode
im just talking about theories here
carmine marsh
carmine marsh
carmine marsh
hmmm
narrow geode
k
carmine marsh
good theory.
golden parrot
does your colour fade on your dino as you get older/stay alive longer?
halcyon stirrup
I have a suspicion that if hypos are added it'll have to be alongside humans. Becoming one actually requiring resources found within those unfinished human areas.
If anything it won't be like it was in progression.
keen jasper
perhaps
halcyon stirrup
I just wonder if stuff related to this topic will have a high amount of puzzle solving
And whether or not it'll be random and change each time or be something you can just search up on youtube once.
It always weirds me out how people immediately assume humans and dinosaurs will be enemies and kill each other on site.
When I can totally see humans bandaging wounds and giving medicine against illnesses
And in further down the line I could totally see being injected with strains by humans as the only reasonable way of achieving it.
Requiring the cooperation of someone to achieve this strange curse of power.
I really wonder how a herbivorous dinosaur would react to a strain virus...
mighty abyss
I'd imagine the opposite: as a t rex, sure your hide may be strong but a few well placed bullets before you even had a chance to kill one? same for humans: why waste bullets on a diablo when you could save it for more pressing matters like cannibals or hypo raptors
Plus, if voice chat gets added into the game, you could have a chance to reason with the dinosaurs (although to what extent and how that'd affect the [dna strand alliance thingy], and if humans would have their own [dna strand alliance thingy] would be a different matter)
halcyon stirrup
Considering official servers dont even have global chat enabled I highly doubt a voice chat between anything but the same species will be possible
It really does boil down to when humans are introduced
If they're introduced before cannibals and are staked against strictly dinosaurs trying to survive, I can see a high amount of dino vs human conflict. That should carry over patch to patch.
mighty abyss
well, also how humans are introduced too
halcyon stirrup
I'm heavily under the impression that humans are going to be required for dinosaurs to achiece anything strain related.
Like the player characters that is.
mighty abyss
the mercs are further down the lane than the tribals or mutants
no matter what, the first human-type class will be food for the carnivores, which will affect how humans are seen later down the road
the big question is things like guns, armour and bullets. where would those come from? Tribals are pretty easy to do in a rust-type fashion, and the mutants are just human dinosaurs, so
halcyon stirrup
I suppose, however if before then herbivores become more popular due to the affinity systeme or whatever they might have in store I can totally see some very interesting interaction between the two given they're actually interesting things they can do together.
Riding dinosaurs as tribals could theoretically be a common sight, especially among herbivores.
And I kinda imagine tribals would be using primitive tools and likely rely on craftable traps
mighty abyss
again, an argument for human-dinosaur vocal chat but not cross-species chat (although to what extent a tribal would be able to speak with is another fashion. it'd be funny seeing a merc trying to shoo off a psittaco or oreo because they attract carnivores)
visual gate
imagine how riding dinosaurs could work though
halcyon stirrup
I find that even without any communication whatsoever it could still be very possible.
visual gate
maybe you could fall off n stuff too
mighty abyss
that's another factor - food. how will mercs get food? Will it attract NPCS? Will the dinosaurs be able to sniff out encampments? Will they get poisoned from chocolate? Will we have a full-scale reinactment of the T rex attack on camp from The Lost World JP?
halcyon stirrup
I mean I'd imagine it would have to be earned somehow
visual gate
mercs could be vegetarians lol
mighty abyss
hm
halcyon stirrup
Otherwise you could ride certain dinos as a means of stoping them from hurting you
visual gate
or maybe even do this whole "hey guys humans and dinosaurs are friends" thing could work
and they could share
eh
mighty abyss
of course, the dinosaurs could also fight back, that was one of the early plans wasn't it? break free etc
halcyon stirrup
Well yeah I don't know what would stop them from fighting back.
mighty abyss
I think it was something like the carnivores saddles n stuff had spikes lodged into them?
halcyon stirrup
I theories it'd be a puzzle requiring a human to cooperate with a dinosaur
mighty abyss
A fun thing that might keep with the lore is tracking collars for the mercs
halcyon stirrup
Possbily using a dinos strength to access areas sealed off by debris
mighty abyss
not as in you can track the mercs (though an Aliens style kind of thing would be neat too), but capture a dino, put a collar on it and track it
visual gate
all i can imagine is humans just stickin needles into dinosaurs and going "oh fuck" when something happens
halcyon stirrup
Unless they make it so each of the viruses have to be found and they'd already be complete.
Yeah that's how I picture it aswell
visual gate
honestly id just love to see how this ends up
mighty abyss
I was always under the assumption the affinity system would deal with the strains for the carnivores
like, they're pre-programmed to "evolve" as it were, it just takes time
visual gate
the affinity system sounds a bit weird from the small bits ive heard of it
halcyon stirrup
I really hope that isn't the case
If carnivore can just will its way into being a hypo I'd be pretty pissed
And it would make little no sense
visual gate
maybe achievements that the humans/dinos could get
halcyon stirrup
I still kinda doubt it would be that easy
Considering how tedious they made it for players to become a hypo rex in progression
They clearly want to make it hard to achieve, or at least have a deterrent that stops everyone from just becoming a strained dino
My theory is whatever is behind that gate has something to do with the strains
Research on them
Insight on how they're created
gaunt raptor
Would be cool if there were different ways of getting a type of strain
Like you get the stuff flowing In your blood but you have to also activate it
Like for neuro you have to get struck by lightning or something
Not sure what would activate hypo or tisso but yeah
visual gate
maybe overeating could have something to do with the hypo
lyric ibex
maybe eating certain genetically radiated organisms could have something to do with it?
they don't seem natural
junior sun
Hypo = HypoEndocrine. Doesn't make much sense because it should be Hyper, leading to an excess of hormones causing mutations and extra growth. Hypo means less, in other words, less hormones. Not sure what they're going for but i'm just going with it. Unless they're really meaning suppressing some genes so others go wild?
sinful hatch
@junior sun you are correct, the name for the strain (Type-H) is Hyperendocrin, therefore Hyper for short. At somepoint the community adopted "Hypoerendocrin", with an "o" there, and that is how Hypo became the norm, but biologically speaking, you are absolutely right.
echo gazelle
@bleak shore Yeah, the lights just inform players that Morse Code is being emitted, but all that was translated long ago. You can check it out in the Pinned Messages on the Document.
fair cosmos
honestly wasnt expecting the isle to have this much lore jammed in it, just thought it was Funnie Dinosore Game™
mighty abyss
It's surprising once you get into it what games have incredible lore. Personally I prefer games that have the lore hidden in the game (and also not in an encyclopaedia format), but lore speculation and revelations like this work too I guess
And yes, some of the lore has come from the game, such as the aforementioned Radio Tower but it's mostly all through Twitter
keen jasper
so what do you guys think this all is eh
whyre human minds being shoved into dinosaurs
do people pay for this? is this forced? are we trapped in some sort of respawning hell?
broken grotto
if i understand this, it's the last 2
it is forced on subjects (like the tribals on the islands) and get stuck in a respawning hell
made by AE
bleak shore
what does AE stand for again?
icy onyx
Apollo Engineering
hearty mulch
Don't take human brains as literal human brains, but human consciousnesses are replicated/downloaded inside shells shaped like dinosaurs
silent lily
👏
mighty abyss
makes you begin to wonder what the 'dinosaurs' in PC actually were
keen jasper
maybe soldiers/tribals
random people selected to just use for war and kill i suppose.
I like the idea of this game being a respawning hell
dunno who we are though
Maybe its not really the same conscious every single time
And a different one each time you die
rich breach
I think it is like assassins creed. Where they are forcing people to live lives that aren't their own to understand how a species could rule earth for millions of years whilst at the same time attempting to improve upon it
keen jasper
maybe yeah
silent lily
Or just some dinos escaped while they were doing experiments on them 🤷
fluid violet
I've been thinking its just some 4th wall setup, like the devs are AE. The game UI is setup like a terminal and we are remote agents connecting to the testing site. The character sheet also seems to reference this.
gloomy olive
The short music that plays at night sounds like a neuro messing with the main theme with like the heavy bass or whatever its called
Is it neuro? or tisso i cant remember
broken grotto
The Neuro Spino had some very interesting sounds
silent lily
I'm pretty sure some guys were fucking with dinosaurs at a lab or whatever and they got out and took over or whatever 🤷
thick copper
This games story is a bit more interesting than that I feel
lilac anvil
Yeahh, there seems to be much more to it than just some bois are running loose around the island
lilac anvil
Do some reading and see what we mean, I know it's not as simple as a breakout, which really makes it interesting
abstract drum
Regular
outer dagger
@bleak shore it was said in the patch notes that it was to help guide players. both on thenyaw and v3
mighty abyss
that's what they want you to think
silent lily
🤔
sharp vortex
Has anyone heard the devs mention whether or not theyre going to edit and develope the southeastern side of the v3 map more? ya know the area with the island chains?
regal locust
I don’t know if this is the place to ask, but, they will be changing it.
sharp vortex
asked first in discussion without a response, so thank u for yours lol
do you know how so they are changing it?
regal locust
No worries, happy to help.
sharp vortex
any hints theyve said?
regal locust
No?
“This’ll get done.” That’s what we know.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, we should continue this in off topic
If you’re still curious.
sharp vortex
Ah gotcha. classic dondi lol. sure ill move down there
placid harness
So uh... is there a reason that dinosaurs go blind when they die?
Is their soul being ripped out or something?
keen jasper
That might be the reason, but I mean
Its a corpse
Eyes go all milky white when that happens
glossy walrus
^
placid harness
It must happen super quickly then, damn.
keen jasper
I say making it that the consciousness leaving the body making the dino eyes milky white sounds more cool tho
fair cosmos
oof
i wonder if the government is in charge of AE or if it's it's own corporation
and if they arent ran by the government, i wonder if any government is aware of 'em?
keen jasper
could be either or
keen jasper
Considering this is all happening on some random ass islands
I doubt there is a government/anybody is really aware of it
Other than yknow
The people stuck in whatever respawn hell this is
fair cosmos
someone's gotta make all that instrumentation though, it can't be cheap
keen jasper
There was probably a secret team of scientists/engineers for it I'm sure
..of which are probably long gone/dead
Also the strain origins are confusing
There are sorta creatures/"gods" that represent the strains, but people also say that the strains were made in a lab/by scientists????
Could it be both..??
fair cosmos
i guess they're revered as "gods" because they're so otherworldly and powerful but i guess they are just lab-grown after all
keen jasper
Maybe
hallow bone
Er what?
runic nacelle
They're genetically modified 😃
lilac anvil
Pretty neat
The mark on the tail looks like The Isle logo as well
or rather, resembles it
tiny carbon
I can see it, but I think it's just a coincidence with the texture tiling over the center of the body like that
mellow parrot
^
coral sequoia
just a coincidence with the symmetry on the scarring
oak pumice
it's because the texture is mirrored over the center axis of the model so it's the same on both sides :v
cinder flower
The isle isnt actually and Island. Its a heaven for the extinct Dino's to roam free.
oak pumice
plot twist, we all ded
echo gazelle
Okay, really quickly I want focus on this image you can spot when you start up The Isle. In Greek Myth this is known as Hermes Staff. But its origin is called Caduceus or The Rod of Asclepius, who was the Son of Apollo and a deity associated with Healing and Medicine. Now Hermes himself had a conflict with Apollo, both of them being Sons of Zues and Maia. Hermes stole cattle from Apollo, Apollo later confronted Hermes and as a gift Hermes gave Apollo this Staff. So Pheonix could represent Hermes, while Apollo is..well Apollo Engineering. Apollo seeked his cattle (aka The Dinosaurs) and retreived them back from Phoenix. Now the story of the two snakes facing one another can represent a rivalry of some sort. Protocol Hades was mentioned long ago which in my opinion can tie with Doctor Who. Phoenix and Apollo could be both The Seventh Doctor and The Sixth Doctor, there is an Oracle computer in Doctor Who that initiates the Protocol Hades whenever a containment breach occurs. The Magnatyrannus Solus was replicated thus causing a containment breach triggering the Hades protocol. Now the Oracle could be The Replicator, an advanced computer of some kind. There is also an Operations Organization in Doctor Who called The Forge, which could represent Tartarus. That's all the time I have right now, will continue it later. Very interesting though. Doctor Who was an old BBC show which contained a Tardis that allowed these Doctors to travel through time but the Tardis gained a simple image of almost anything. Anyways just a thought.
open compass
But Project Hades was just the hypo carno
bleak shore
plot twist, the isle is a scientific study/social experiment, that was provided as an alternative sentencing for serious crime , or death row prisoners/convicts. once arriving at the facility, they were knocked out/killed/ incapacitated and their minds where loaded into a simulation. they never actually see the facility(hence the "you never saw the other side of the door") some of the minds initially stared aware of the situation, but as they died and were reinserted into the simulation their minds begin to deteriorate, some more than others, the ones who lost all humanity became little more than animals, these are mostly the dinos, the others that maintained some humanity became the cannibals mainly, but like the others their level of intelligence and memorys have been twisted and lost with only the most basic mythological explanations for their existance on the isle. the man made things and mercs are the prison guards and facilities..etc
bleak shore
...is there actually doctor who related lore.... ? like has dondi ever said its connected to doctor who?
lilac anvil
It seems a bit far fetched that Dondi would connect his lore to Doctor Who, neat theory nonetheless
bleak shore
yeah
cinder atlas
Reminder to read channel descriptions and rules.
silent lily
Nah man I'm telling u Some scientists just did some weird shit on dinos and they got out it's as simple as that man
No need to look further into it
🤷
placid harness
I'd be careful trying to solely connect the isle lore to just one other franchise.
amber hedge
Dondi may come in and zap you for making false accusations 😂 😂 😂 😂
gilded salmon
Does dondi even watch Dr Who?
broken grotto
@echo gazelle hthat's a damn interesting theory
if we completly ignore the Dr. Who part, i feel that it could totally be a lead to something big
echo gazelle
@gilded salmon Probably not, I have just always been curious what Project Lazarus meant in lore since it's mentioned on the website. Also it's been used since the early Isle.
broken grotto
but again, it was a comparison and not a complete tie in xD
i'll think about it, thanks Luncha!
echo gazelle
Yeah, I was just using it as a reference, it does have some similar plot points and yeah np @broken grotto
mighty abyss
It's not the Lazarus staff
it's a DNA strand with wings with a flagpole in the middle
it's a Phoenix
tranquil galleon
What if the skeleton is a skeleton of the deinosuchus
Died of starvation probably due to its size
runic nacelle
😮 in titan lake?
echo gazelle
@mighty abyss I never said that was a Lazarus staff. That's the Caduceus symbol or The rod of Asclepius. Lazarus was mentioned here:
mighty abyss
Lazarus, Caedecus, Doctor Who' Lazarus, I got confuzzled
echo gazelle
@mighty abyss Yeah, I joined two seperate theories together, one part is for Greek Myth while the other is a reference to Doctor Who, a theory but a stretched one
mighty abyss
Also that website is fucking ancient
echo gazelle
It is, but it's the only website
mighty abyss
Well, if we were to go off this theory: Phoenix's rise from the ashes born anew, so Phoenix Corp. died in Project Inferno, then were reborn as Apollo Engineering. Lazarus rose from the dead after four days.
So going by this, four years after the event of PC, Apollo is taking the minds of the recently deceased and implanting then into their dinosaurs for research, because the dinosaurs can't handle the strain of an accelerated evolution or something like that
echo gazelle
Yeah, we know now PC and Isle have something in common but don't know what exactly. Escpecially with the new transmission. At this point I am trying to find in-game stuff, most have been discovered such as the morses, binary, loading screens, but I feel like we are missing something. There are a couple light morses that I don't think were translated yet
placid harness
"I wasn't connecting" "I wasn't merging"
Pick one. You obviously did make a connection. I know you didn't mean to imply they are merged. My comment was to warn you for relying on too many parallels from Doctor Who to clue in as to what the story is, which is what you did, after all.*
echo gazelle
@placid harness Yeah, you're right. I'd completely disregard that connection. It was hard for me to explain what I was trying to lay out in the end. Was in a rush while posting that and tied two different stories I had and mixed them up. But I throw anything in here that I possibly can in order to at least try and push the story forward. There's nothing physically concrete that this channel has encountered other than the In-Game stuff. Which are more plausable than the many theories that have been on the spot or somewhere along the line. PC was theorized years ago to connect to The Isle and a lot of people were excited about it, I wasn't around during the VC morses and such, but I've seen enough videos or discussions of people who were around during that time. Now that PC is possibly connecting again from my understanding, it's really just a waiting game until newer stuff come into the game, progressing the narrative told by the community. Also I just generally like creating theories at a wider range. Newer people join the game and learn that there is a dark story behind all of it, making them come up with several theories, some may go beyond what is already known and that's ok, that's what this channel is for. Anyway, I always look forward to what this channel has everyday, whether it's useful or not.
placid harness
I do wonder whether the primal carnage connection is as great as the community has been advertising.
hearty mulch
Great? Eh. There? Yes.
The way I see it, the connection matters most to dondi. However much we approve is irrelevant.
echo gazelle
If they connect then that's great, it's something dondi wanted. Maybe he will just aknowledge PC, by bringing in something from that nature like B-443, a transmission, also the rex we play as is supposedly B-443 according to dinosauriac, someone posted a screenshot of it a while ago
icy onyx
size...buff?
Wait so does this mean Magna Rex is scrapped since you said the Rex we play as is B-443?
mighty abyss
Magna is derived from the PC rexes, specifically the B-443 and B-442 specimens
also wow Phoenix had 440+ of those rexes on one island? Jesus Christ
oak pumice
a lot of 'em might've died in the test tube or didn't make it to adulthood or died to other magnas, tho
hasty latch
Quetz works, yet it's unstable.
Titanoboa is in development and early testing.
mighty abyss
I can only imagine the horrors of trying to get the Kinetic system to work with an animal that has (technically) only one, very long foot
visual gate
seems fun
gloomy olive
This is ((i think)) one of the new "music" pieces added to the game, and ive only ever heard it at night, id like someone to tell me if any of these sounds are from a neuro or something cos it seriously sounds creepy, and thanks to the amazing sound design im now terrified every time i hear it, if its already been discussed or such just at me and ill delete it ;p
Also the other noises were me as a trike
sorry if it disturbs the audio
It kind of sounds like the main theme but slowed down? a little bit?
but seriously creepy
going on a stretch but does music link to anything within the lore? or is it just there for effect
fallow maple
Well
There is thousand life contract as part of the games ost
So it might link to the lore a little
mighty abyss
Acts of God - an obvious allusion to creating new/old life
gloomy olive
mmm
sinful hatch
yes, spooky track indeed!
outer dagger
i hope they release those spooky osts publicly soon
mighty abyss
If they're part of a larger song, then yes
if they're just small standalone pieces, than still yes. Just less likely. this is veering off of theories however
tranquil galleon
@lethal mica that's a shipyard
that's where ships are built
water is removed via those vents
lethal mica
edgy pike
I think instead of looking to those little blue crates you should take a gander at the building behind them
silver current
it's not a cage, pretty sure its a kinda dock made so marine dinosaurs cant get in
junior sun
There are cages in the shipyard though, containment areas
tiny carbon
All of the shipping crates have something along the lines of "Refrigeration Unit" printed on the side of them, meaning that they drop whatever is in them to low temperatures. Transferring dinos in lower temperatures would mean lower-metabolism rates, so they'd be able to last a bit longer going overseas. IF the dinos weren't being transported in them, then it would be a huge waste to transfer just anything with built-in refrigeration.
Then again, it could just be a generic asset they're using until they can really focus on that stuff. And as for those grates, that's used to pull water in and out so that the boats are allowed to rise and fall, and to prevent flooding in case it happens. The Panama Canal uses a system sort of like this where boats go into little sections at a time where water is then added and subtracted so that the boat can sail on into the next one, where the boat can be lifted to meet the one after that and etc... allowing giant cruiships the ability to go up and down-river, essentially.
tranquil galleon
yep
quasi egret
In this arc, are these Dino’s naturally occurring or were they genetically invented and have evolved from there?
echo gazelle
@snow mango It's from Dondis stream. He has access to non released creatures.
snow mango
ohhh ok lol I was like I wanna be a ssssssssssssssneaky sssssssssssssnake
broken grotto
@quasi egret from what we think we understand right now:
AE (Apollo Engineering) and Phoenix Corporation started genetically manufacturing dinosaurs. i don't remember Phoenix's cause, but AE wanted to make the perfect living organism. So after they brought back the dinosaurs they started experimenting with them, putting human conciousness in them, making the strains to make them stronger and better. etc
😄
they didn't.. evolve from their Genetic Engineering. their Engineers have just found better desgins to replace the older Dinosaur models
digital vale
Just curious, how did they even make the dinosaurs? I mean - in JP they used a blood of dinosaurs from mosquitoes in amber, but in reality it would be impossible to gather DNA from them. So, is Isle using the same theory with mosquitoes, or is there some different way to achieve it? Or maybe they used some lizards/birds and changed their DNA? (If I remember well, few years ago some scientists "made" chickens with lizard-like mouths) Also sorry if this was answered somewhere, I'm still new to lore.
shell dust
Tbh I've been wondering the same
They obviously use some DNA from the dinosaurs themselves but it isn't 100% accurate, since dinosaurs like the utah lack feathers.
broken grotto
i don't think the question of "where did we get it" ever got awnsered..
we do have awnsers on questions we don't even know about, and questions without awnsers. but that? don't think so
oak pumice
mosquitoes
sage kelp
Anyone know about a while ago when someone logged into the console? what was it all about?
bronze fox
Before I found out they were genetically created, I kept thinking each of these dinos somehow survived extinction by migrating across land bridges until they each ended up on a specific island and continued to live from there on and so forth as time passed.
But wait, in the Jurassic Park universe, the dinosaurs were created to be park attractions, while the dinosaurs in this universe were created for experimentation, thus bringing about the creation of those monstrous strains. What gives?
icy onyx
dusk axle
imo there were dinosaurs already in the isle, using their genetic code and maybe some out of somewere Dino DNA, the playable creatures were created by AE, probem was they were just animals, so either AE found, created or a combo of both the replicator, wich imo is a machine/deity/creature that in agreement with AE manages the souls so to speak of a certain group of people (us) wich can either be candidates or forced, either way, they are subjected to a cycle of rencarnation, by testing the different assets AE holds, in side an artificial ecosystem created with the sole purpuse of testing, finding and learning. AE creates the bodies that act as vessels, while the replicator manages somehow the minds or sould of us in every respawn. so probably everything in the isle, with maybe the exception of AI or mercs (wich could be very well be human clones) is artificially created by AE. those whos mind has changed way too much, or that either have a problem/mutation/ended contract and are still traped or against their will, could be the tribals, wich way of understanding the world is through pure violence, relentles hate and misticism wich could cover the mysterius part of the origins of both the isle itslef, the rep´licator or even the island walkers or whatever they are called. at least that what i think so far.....
random creek
i just heard some helicopter sound or something
on v3
why
is this a bug or something more
mighty abyss
If you hear someone calling on frequencies Oscar mike foxtrot golf alpha then it is a helicopter
random creek
idk it was weird
but i heard it the whole night
so i think its just something with the sounds
heard it near murky pond
silk fiber
I am writing an article about the history of the game, tell me - did Dondi work on "primal carnage extinction" or just on "primal carnage"?
mighty abyss
Both, in a way. I believe he left the team before PCE fully launched. That's what I remember though, and I'm no dev. to get an exact answer, you'd probably do better asking Dinosauriac or Dondi himself. Also, this probably isn't the best place to ask that question lol
fallen ledge
if you are writing a serious article, how about contacting punch about an interview
blissful plume
My idea is that hypo's are accruing somehow natural or forcefully by something and the only way to de-throne is to make a better rex to break its throne. I theory I made before was that Magna rex was made as a superior model to the hypo.
And if we take what dondi said in a stream when he let slip that we can "grow into them" Then that means that there is something in the island that changes and transforms dinos as hypos. And the AE is behind it, not sure if its human or ai intervention.
fickle vector
hazy ingot
I just found a cave behind a waterfall and its got a tunnel that has been closed with big rocks then their is also a walk way in behind it that i cant fit down but a galli or human could fit no worries
hazy ingot
Ill upload them when i jump off the isle because i used steam screen shot
ember flame
k
ember flame
oh
hazy ingot
hazy ingot
I wish i knew were it was exactly on the map but my navigation skills suck
This is ouside
On top of the water fall is a lake
keen jasper
hazy ingot
This is just down the stream by like 200meters
oak pumice
that's Bunker/Dump/Bog on this map, then
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541472581153325117/546927830228008964/image0.jpg
at the foot of the northern mountain
oak pumice
yep that's Bunker
hazy ingot
Great home for raptors
hazy ingot
Should be able to since the spino allmost made it in
tiny carbon
I'm checking out that waterfall an the cave behind them and I havne't seen any openings like that
Where exactly is that crack at
Oh ok I just found the crack nevermind
Just leads to back outside the waterfall
exhibit a (the cave)
exhibit b (the crack) (the rocks also line up in the pics)
exhibit c (where crack goes)
Exhibit d (overview of exit in relation to waterfall)
echo gazelle
That's the Waterfall Ruins. You can't enter it. If you do somehow have fun falling endlessly because this is what the other side looks like. Pay close attention to the rock's formation though. It's unlike any other texture or design like others around the map. This looks like a cave of stored bodies, it looks like a pile of bodies that creates an entrance. @hazy ingot
A Sacrificial Cave if you will
ember flame
ye
hazy ingot
Might be how we turn cannibal humans into the cannibal hybrid nightmares
hearty mulch
It is a fun storebought asset rock
wispy ice
have yall notices that the lights on the bottomw of home screen seem to be flashing morse code? also every update the sequence and wich lights flash changes
wispy ice
ill try to translate the morse code if it is morse code later today
slow delta
Kinda late for that
gloomy olive
cannibal spawn 
icy onyx
@junior sun the only morse code that i'm aware of that is done is the one broadcasting from Thenyaw awhile back, it could've very well changed so.
echo gazelle
Thenyaw still says same thing such as Probability, Replication in Progress, Cognitive Dissonance Observed, Pinging Loopback, Gateway Status Check Error, System fault detected please alert a technician, Apollo core status check error, Replication in Progress. There is a Red Light on the main menu screen that I do not believe was translated, it only occurs around 12pm - 3am PST. I'll try and record it later, light morse is probably the hardest to translate imo.
junior sun
All the Morse code has been decoded in a document on google drive
Log in panel, radio towers, everything
So if you find anything new, you should the writer know so it can be updated
umbral patrol
It's such a cliff hanger reading all that computer query lol. Really can't wait to know everything that happened and why the query is saying what its saying. It's like some of it is computer generated and the rest like someone is putting out the info. Like "cannot choose sides" "you are being controlled"
Desire to know is so strong
umbral patrol
Like is the Olympus transmitter a sentient ai? Or is someone submitting transmissions thru it? How can anybody be alive after the breakout? Did the ai purposefully kill all humans and let the dinos loose? Or was it accidental? So many possibilities D:
broken grotto
the Olympus Transmitter seems to be a AI, all be it not sentient, i also heard the name Apollo Core thrown around so.. mby. people beingalive after the breakout has several possiblities, be it being in bunkers, being security with big pew pew's.. i can't say that with a straight face, i tried.. with guns. the AI i don't think killed any humans and neither said the dinos lose. i think it was a mathmetical error. likew e know that they didn't expect the Hypo Collosus to be this big so it was possibly a accident with wrong size or something along that line
umbral patrol
Fair enough. Didn't expect that their experiments would result in the way that they did
Hopefully we can learn who exactly is sending the transmissions and what they know. Along with what all the dark dirty AE secrets
broken grotto
mhm!~
aldo some seem to be awnsered
or are widley considerd fact by the theorists
the game theorists, thanks for watching!
xD
maybe i could awnser some questions you have
😄
umbral patrol
Like I tried to find info on tart since some have said its where colossus and matriarch are. But can't find info on those entities either
broken grotto
Tartarus.. we are still not sure where the hell that is sadly enough
umbral patrol
Maybe on a diff map we have no access to yet
broken grotto
the Matriarch is another can of worms we are.. trying to find out but its hard
umbral patrol
Isnt she the mother of cannibals?
broken grotto
the Colossus is more information to be found
you're talking about Echidna
mother of the cannibals
umbral patrol
Ah
broken grotto
she's the Tisso human experiment, the Reaper is the Neuro human experiment and the Colossus is the Hypo human experiment
umbral patrol
Ohh
broken grotto
Echidna escaped in a break out (some say together with Reaper).
she started turning the Tribals on the island insane
umbral patrol
That's terrifying lol
broken grotto
turning them into horrible cannibals, her.. children
sadly for AE
because the tribals turned to worship
umbral patrol
Thats..creepy af
broken grotto
generation after generation, the test results of the tribals are blurred by their worshipping
lemme.. lemme get the quote
umbral patrol
I remember that being mentioned by the OT. The results became skewed due to their worship
broken grotto
"The first generation turned to worship. Results were hindered by the malignant passing down stories of how they came to be. Soon they stopped giving results at all. Echidna considered them all children."
Echidna escapped and turned tribals into Cannibals, so the generation of tribals started worshipping her, telling stories of her, hindering AE. eventually they just.. stopped giving results and Echidna found herself of the mother of the cannibals
umbral patrol
So someone has know all of whats all going on there. And keeping us updated albeit in super creepy, not always straight forward ways
broken grotto
maybe they stopped giving results caused they all turned into cannibals, who knows
i think it's the Apollo Core itself keeping track of cameras and the tests
stuff like:
"Start: Systems subset.
Start: Systems master set.
Start: Operations protocol.
Begin: Startup operations.
Begin: Feedback enablers.
Check: Diabloceratops injection.
Pinging loopback.
Status: In Progress.
Begin: Evaluation.
Expected: Three.
Returned: Four.
System error.
Rebooting."
but also the protectors
and that picture of the tribals
this one
umbral patrol
So the elusive info seems derived from something sentient
broken grotto
maybe it's that user who logged in?
warped helm
I have no idea what's going on, I just found The Isle yesterday, can someone bring me up to speed on what's been going on and what's happened so far? I know there's a mystery to be solved
warped helm
Yeah
broken grotto
the pinned documents bring you up to date pretty nicely, together with Meatylocks lore videos, but those are a bit old
also go look at #transmissions and the OT
umbral patrol
Its bits and pieces. Like putting a puzzle together
broken grotto
mhm..
umbral patrol
Kind of like what happened in the original JP
broken grotto
in loading screens, twitter, the envirment
warped helm
Also nice Brotherhood of steel quill division profile pix
umbral patrol
But more terrifying
warped helm
Fitting
broken grotto
mhm
i can give you links to several places if you'd like in dm's Subterror
stuff like lore videos, websites, documents, twitter..
EVERYTHIIIING
warped helm
Yes pls
umbral patrol
All the things!
broken grotto
anyway, do you have any other question Rawr? maybe it's awnserd and you just missed it
umbral patrol
But someone with high clearance has to of survived to be able to log on with all that access
umbral patrol
From death?
Seems odd, one doctor or high ranked employee survived all that carnage unless he has a safe room
Or knew something nobody else did was coming
The whole will have to pick a side trans from the ai talking to said person
And all the trans saying he knows more than he let's on
broken grotto
the islands were bought by AE, and they started testing on the tribal population. they had a copetition with Phoenix Corporation, where they stole dinosaurs from through espionage. the purpose of AE is (as far as we know and understand) to make the perfect living organism, so they starts working on strains to make them stronger, faster, better. the Colossus, Echidna and prob so others broke out, and everything went to hell. the Evecuation process was put into effect and AE escaped the island. until some mercenaries came back together with a high ranking AE employee, where they logged into the Apollo Core, and with that the Olympus Transmitter.
broken grotto
this is the most logical theory in my eyes
it skips some detail because it's.. it's a long one
umbral patrol
He's probably keeping secrets from them to which is probably what the computer meant
broken grotto
but it brings out the basic story line of the theory
umbral patrol
Right and the mercs prob have no idea the horrible secret experiments exist on there that had escaped too
umbral patrol
All they know is their getting paid to escort this dude to recover property
broken grotto
also a theory
the Mercs, together with the type-M strain
was supposed to clean off the island
you know
take out the dinosaurs, capture strained animals
umbral patrol
Hmm true
umbral patrol
As if they didn't learn the first time but greed is greed
broken grotto
they learned from their mistakes
umbral patrol
But from what the ai is telling the user, he will have to pick a side eventually
umbral patrol
Yea
Or neutralize the neuro strain since it seems the most dangerous. Due to its mental capabilities. Too hard to control
broken grotto
mhm
we even have some theories saying the Neuro strain will be able to control minds, make illusions, ofcourse that EMP blast from the Spino, teleport
the Neuro is like.. the trickster strain
we don't know what it will do
Hypo is the heavy gun strain
and Tisso the stealth strain
if that makes sense
so yeh, neutralizing the neuro strain is the smartest
or the Tisso strain, as we have some evidence that they could go invisible
umbral patrol
Right, get rid of the 2 most dangerous and uncontrollable strains, take back the isle and continue ops
broken grotto
mhm
btw, do we know how far Dondi and the dev team has come on that camera idea yet?
umbral patrol
But sadly for ae, the strains are too out of control for ae now. And will prove difficult to get rid of. Possibly could have started breeding and mutated strains or strengthened traits now
umbral patrol
Possibly but not sure it will work. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out
broken grotto
type-M is still under AE's control, and it's the most powerfull of the 4 strains
so.. AE uses them as hunters against the strains..?
umbral patrol
Going to be interesting
Although, if they don't have full access to the isle, not sure how they can replicate and set loose this strain til they get back control
umbral patrol
But kind of off topic but the ot mentioned something about if you look onto the night sky at the right time you can see a gateway or at least maybe the path to one
Never really put much thought into that or noticed anything
broken grotto
mhm..
my idea was that the gateway was a kind of.. airport?
and the way to the gateway was a plane flying in the night
you know, to not draw attention by doing it when it's daytime
umbral patrol
Right
broken grotto
mhm! heard about it
not.. i didn't hear the earial activity
i heard.. people saying that they heard..
you get what i mean
umbral patrol
I'll have to start watching the sky at night xD
broken grotto
mhm..
umbral patrol
Could just be ambience rn til they further develop what the ot means by that.
broken grotto
mhm..
like the Cannibal sounds in the aviary
anyway, i have to eat lunch, i'll be back soon
😄
twin vale
cannibal sounds lol
umbral patrol
Cannibal ambience is creepy
carmine marsh
iirc the sounds from aviary are just redwoods ambience and not cannibal sounds
hearty mulch
Playable redwoods incoming
slow delta
halcyon stirrup
I wonder if the affinity systeme is going to tie into the idea that dinosaurs are actually humans with their consciousness in a dinosaur body. Like shocking them for not doing what their dino would do.
Been thinking about that joke dondi made with the spiderman comic page.
Wondering how much truth there is behind the simple jest
We'll probably get a better idea of how much neurological knowledge they have once mechanics for neuro strains are released.
green crater
Could it be possible that the Aviary be a spawn spot for future Quetz?
halcyon stirrup
analog sequoia
Or maybe its a ualy a secrete laboritory and thats were the hypos are caged
amber hedge
Could be the area for the hypo quetz idk. But I believe it could be a place to spawn in as a quetz
icy onyx
They spawn in a fenced off landmark? I doubt it.
little cedar
Hypo qquetz is a thing?
placid harness
I wonder how the relationship between a profile and a dinosaur exists.
Is the dinosaur its own thinking being who is just turned into a vessel for the profile?
keen jasper
maybe it can see what the human mind sees but cannot express feelings/move/speak
its like being a passenger in a body
placid harness
I'd imagine it exerts at least some influence. The fact that the affinity system is coming may reflect this. Your dinosaur has needs, wants, and things that it wants fulfilled in its life.
Googles defines affinity as a few things, but it is tied to relationships.
My theory is that the affinity is how well your connection as a profile is to your dinosaur.
keen jasper
hrm
placid harness
Just imagine if the affinity connection is completely fulfilled and at its highest. Imagine your dinosaur being able to warn you of things approaching or of impending dangers, giving you access to senses us humans do not possess normally.
keen jasper
my question is why're they doing this
as in the whole putting minds into dinosaurs thing
and why're we here
placid harness
It could've been a second chance for those thrown out from the world - outcasts. AE approached them and maybe gave them an ultimatum. 1000 lives. They just need to accept the contract. A second chance at a completely new life. What more can anyone ask for, to do everything over?
Whether these people knew their minds were being put into dinosaur bodies or if they had to actually live 1000 lives is a mystery.
keen jasper
hmm
maybe the 1000 lives contract was some sort of challenge/experimentation obviously but took too long and thats why everything seems abandoned including the selection menu/buildings on the island?
placid harness
AE could easily just be using these people for a more sinister purpose.
Whatever it was, something went wrong.
keen jasper
yeah
placid harness
Honestly, if I had a chance to live another, better life while I was at a low in mine, I'd be tempted to do so.
The opportunity would be an umbrella to whatever motive the Apollo has.
I just started thinking about this as my Carno sat on the dock for a minute. Watching the idle animations, I thought to myself "what is he looking around at? what is he thinking?"
keen jasper
perhaps the animalistic mind/instinct kicking in
itd be funny to think whats going on with the utah idle anim cause obviously hes just got an itch lol
icy onyx
He's thinking "Why did i charge into to that rex pack?"
rain crystal
I can't remember where but there was something about "1000 lives is what they owe us/you owe us"... almost seemed like a retaliation for some of the things the company did on first impulse to me, but that might be incorrect
also, there was a huge thing a while back about trying to unlock the console in the main screen, and someone had done it somehow... in the loading screen binary there's "YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD" and now they're talking about "you never saw the other side of the door" like something was missed?
keen jasper
yeah
marsh nacelle
Can someone Dm me and catch me up on what has been solved and such?
rain crystal
check some of the pinned messages, that has quite a bit of info
marsh nacelle
Awesome thanks @rain crystal
halcyon stirrup
Holy crap that's a lot to take in
Just read the entire document for all the load screens and stuff
Makes me want to hop back into PC
So type Ns are in Atrium - B huh
Le Spook
silent lily
Why does hunger run down faster than thirst? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
nocturne cosmos
halcyon stirrup
Is it known where Atrium C is?
Any guesses rather?
I'm willing to bet its the Aviary.
That being said it would conflict with the architectural definition of Atrium.
tiny carbon
Could also be a large holding pen. If you think about it, a large one of those without a roof isnt technically a cage but an atrium
echo gazelle
Hey I noticed this wasn't in the document, it was partially written out before but was never completed so here's the complete version. Some stuff you missed.
@slow delta
<revivication process complete//
-<ejection successful>
->failsafe override confirmed
-<alert> facility compromised
-<resuc. protocol complete>
-<alert> voltage level -110%
-<charging..> 60%
->charging..> 12%
-<init.resuc. protocol>
-<data transfer complete>
-<transferring..> 99%
-<transferring..> 75%
-<transferring..> 50%
-<transferring..> 10%
-<init. data transfer>
->ultraviolet protection 100%
->soft tissues 100%
->marrow 100%
-<commence revivication>
->vat num #443 ready
-<init. revivication process>
-<analysis complete>
-{animals}
-{chordata}
-{dinosauriformes}
-{dinosauria}
-gttc-ctcg-aggt-tgct-agct-tcga-aggc-gcgt
-tggc-gcgt-tcga-agtc-ggac-tgac-gtac-tcga
-gctc-cgcc-cgca-atcg-gcta-tcag-cgga-tgtg
-tcga-agtc-ggac-tgac-gtac-tcga-gcta-tcca
-<init. base pair analysis>
->transferred 1.3 petabytes in 2.75 seconds
-<download complete>
-<downloading>
-<init. remote capture protocol>
-<receive notify> extinction event
-<critical error>: asset status? -lalive
->parse asset vital signals
-<stat> log "verbose"
-/init. Apollo Mainframe event log...
loud herald
Fun
tiny carbon
In actuality that's written backwards. Reading it from the bottom top is the way it would be executing (just letting those you might not be aware know)
echo gazelle
Yup, but idk this stuff is old and just thought I'd post it in here. Some new stuff I haven't seen before such as the Resuc. Protocol needing to be charged. Also funny how 443 shows up often. B-443 could be the base of how all the Dinosaurs were remade.
tiny carbon
I would assume the Resuc is resuscitation but spelled wrong honestly.
Cause after it begins it, it starts charging a voltage level and then it's completed (similiar to how a doctor charges up paddles to shock their patients back to life)
neon helm
"1000 lives contract" If we all owe 1000 lives through a contract, we may owe something else on the contract? Im pretty sure i've killed/died 1000 times in 1.8k hours of gameplay. The 1000 lives contract can also be one of the reasons why back in the day, the game records your kills/deaths in a server.
Or maybe we've missed a way to "redeem" our kills/deaths?
tiny carbon
I dont' think it's so much that we owe 1000 lives but more like we signed the contract to live 1000 lives. The lives of the dinosaurs that is. As for actually living/dying 1000 times, I dont' think there's currently anything they can do to actually "cut you off" since that would mean you couldn't exactly play the game anymore and that just isn't right
neon helm
We owe something
We just don't know what it wants (assuming 1000 lives?)
Or how to give it to them
marsh nacelle
Maybe the man we owe, is either the reaper or the main person that started the whole thing for AE and the experiments
Or the person we owe our debt to for helping in the progress of all this. Has been killed?
slow delta
@echo gazelle nice, ill upload it to the doc asap
regal locust
Can anyone send me the picture of the tartarus gate that Don posted a while back?
Okay, he put it up on stream for a solid second or two, but, people did have it saved in here.
Thanks in advance!
ember lintel
Hello everyone, i have in gam eproblem i stuck inside a rock and i cant get out
is there anyone who can help me? i am Eu official server 1
sweet lily
who else thinks the light blinking on the main screen in the bottom right could be Morse code for something?
echo gazelle
@sweet lily It is morse code and has already been translated before when the menu updated. Check the pinned messaged above and read through the document.
sweet lily
lol guess im behind
umbral patrol
The 1k lives thing could be the duration of the test regarding those who signed up to participate. A less ominous explanation than indentured servitude. Or we are actually convicts or death row inmates and in order for "all debts paid" we have to live 1000 lives? :p
runic nacelle
So it's a Jurassic Park homage?
placid harness
Some of the estimates for the digital storage equivalent of the human brain is between 1 and 2 petabytes.
Just imagine the rig they have processing that.
rustic knoll
@static dock @dreamy spire This channel is for The Isle's lore and theories about said lore. Make sure to read channel descriptions before posting, thanks.
static dock
I posted that here by mistake i'm sorry.
past trench
Yeah also sorry for the real late reply but @echo gazelle the -> vat nun #443 ready is probably referencing primal carnage and how dondi got all the files on it and he posted it in transmissions as enter 443
echo gazelle
@past trench Yeah B-443 to be exact. Which is speculated to be a Growth Facility for All-Father, the Magnatyrannus Solus which could refer to Magna Mater the mother of Gods therefore B-443 could be the origin of how all other Dinos were created. The original Magna was destroyed in Operation Inferno but samples were acquired, allowing the replication of it. So perhaps B-443 could be a genetic code used to create everything monstrosity in The Isle. I could be wrong though, my theories have been off lately. There's still so much unknown.
past trench
Yeah so that makes sense the Magna is the perfect recreation so the b-443 code I guess is what is mutating the dinosaurs to try to become magnas maybe?
echo gazelle
Not sure what's causing the mutations, but All-Father was Apollo's first attempt to creating the perfect organism. The Magna now is just a replication and could just be another strain as speculated before. But my question is will a complete profile be considered a Perfected Organism because we know there will be only one in the end. Choosing the replicator's side will be a key, it's either you die, which you will, or others do. Also don't take that as, you die you lose, only death will set you free of this place. If you willingly die and sacrifice everything you've gained, then you are going past limit and reason, therefore turning to worship.
wary obsidian
TT K CHOICE WAS GIVEN. ALLFATHER WAS CHOSEN. REPLICATION COMPLETE. THRONEBREAKER.F.DELETED. ALPHONSE.F DELETED. NOVA.F DELETED. SYSTEM RECOVERY REQUIRED. REBOOT INITIATED.
AT 11:03 PM, JULY 25TH, 2017, USER 7656119803161110 INITIATED ALLFATHER PROTOCOL. MAGNATRANNUS SOLUS IS NOW ACTIVE. EXPECT NO SURVIVORS.
THE FIRST PROFILE TO REACH THE NEXT PHASE SHALL CHOOSE REPLICATION. REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE. PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD. IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.
There were also two small transmissions before Magnatyrannus was revealed:
GENERATING USER REPORT. RECEIVING CAPTURE.
After the Magnatyrannus was revealed, there was more Morse Code:
TTETMKUDENDEENE TMTOURPROFILE. INITIATE THE NEXT PHASE. ASSIMILATE THE MAGNATYRANNUS. BECOME THE KING.
I found this and thought it was interesting.
raw olive
Do we know what Poseidon is? Is he the H Spino?
It seems like the magna is the “key” per say
To the profiles evolving
umbral patrol
Poseidon may be a water boi
Like full aquatic type
A hyper mosa would be terrifying or something like that
rain crystal
interestingly enough if you search that steam ID it is a valid ID... kinda?
says it was created today but last updated 49 years ago, which can't exactly be right
that's going way back to the whole mystery of how to unlock the console in the main screen, though, and i don't think anyone else figured it out
@wary obsidian where'd you find that exactly?
wary obsidian
@rain crystal https://sites.google.com/henrico.k12.va.us/theisleslore/codes-and-transmissions/solved?authuser=0
This is the site mate
little prawn
(Just thought this was amusing, but that Steam ID finder thing said that it was last updated 49 years ago lmao)
wary obsidian
Nice
little prawn
Wait, Henrico? I lived there for 15 years 🤔
wary obsidian
@rain crystal that site I posted has codes that are solved and not 100% solved. Not sure if it has everything but hey think if you have enough people look at them you may solve one.
slow delta
The docks are pretty freaky with the camera and screen filter
But it seems like there arent any clues
ember flame
"HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY."
HADES=Hypo Carno
PHANTOMS=Ptera or Quezt?
echo gazelle
That's some old morse my man, from when the transmitter joined the VC
but it's still questionable to this day
Hades could be much more than a just the Hyper Carno imo
ember flame
true
tiny carbon
Ive always been pretty certain that code Hades was a whole operation or procedure rather than just the H Carno, but everyone threw that out the window even though i had good enough reasoning that i cant remember now
Also if im not mistaken, Khorne was the one that initiated Allfather
echo gazelle
Yeah, well at least that's what Dondi said in the VC video. He was able to choose 1 out of 3 and All-Father isn't even the worst possible as we know it's smaller than a Hyperendocrin. Hades though could be some kind of lockdown protocol when a containment breach occurs. Hades being the Unseen One. But idk just a guess.
tiny carbon
I used the loading screens i think to logic out that Hades wasnt just the hypo carno but i couldnt remember for the life of me if i tried now id have to go back through them and i dont feel like it right now XD
high heath
Huh. Hades is a good name for the Hyper Carno.
So, Greek myth is used for the strains?
We had Tartarus, now Hades?
tiny carbon
Not necessarily just for the strains, but throughout the lore
Like Apollo Engineering
for example
high heath
Mhm.
bronze pike
Isnt it already confirmed hypo carno is hades
bronze pike
So guys hypo carno is 100% confirmed project hades
Dev posted an announcement on a server saying project hades escaped containment do not attempt to confront
warped coral
not the devs, that was the server admins message pretty sure
bronze pike
Devs can post announcements
strange elm
There may be flyers that aren't as known similar to the other creatures
Possible flyers:
Dimorphodon, Alanqa, Pterodaustro, Tupexuara, Tapejara, Ramphirynchus, Tropegenathus, Quetzocoatlus, Hatzegopteryx, Thalassodromeus
(Sorry for any wrong spelling)
warped coral
so can admins though? plus in the context of the stream don was in a diablo herd and died to some acros, wanted to run back as a big boi carno and hoped the acros would still be knocking about. It wouldnt make sense for him to want an announcement to be posted
bronze pike
It wasn't dondi who announced it in the server
warped coral
yes.... because it was the server admins
carmine marsh
i know there was a few hypos on nycta again the other night
a friend sent me some SS of what happened, is that what you're talking about @bronze pike
if so that was one of the admins and not foszer
warped coral
and I said "him to want an announcement" as in, why would another dev go on and warn people on a community server where people were going to get their dinosaurs back anyway
carmine marsh
i heard foszer wen't over to another community server too but this is offtopic
tiny carbon
Yeah its been widely accepted (i belive wrongly) that the hypo carno is Project Hades, so youll see the two used interchangeably until its confirmed otherwise
high heath
Wait, so, Dondi bought Primal Carnage
Does this mean some of the assets will be incorporated into the lore of The Isle?
little cedar
Dondi bought out Primal Carnage?
keen jasper
PC and TI are connected some way
silver current
ye its the same "Background" lore
with the mercenaries and shit
basically it's the same company "Phoenix"
that did the dinosaurs stuff and send their mercenaries afterwards to deal with it
both same lore, not same gameplay
that's what I bet
keen jasper
something something B-443 (the rex or whatever???) the first quetzalcoatlus, the novaraptor (utahs soon-to-be-rename) etc etc
ironic after Dondi kept saying that the two games were separate
oak pumice
i mean...Dondi now has the SSD that all the PC assets are on, apparently, and talked about that "promise made to the players" that's now going to be fulfilled
pretty safe to assume he bought the rights to PC
twin vale
context, yo. was talking about the likelihood of us making another Primal essentially. not gonna happen.
mighty abyss
hehe
charred cove
whats this i seen about cannibals being in the game?
opaque crane
They'll be added eventually once humans are in. Likely won't be anytime soon, though
open saffron
That sucks cause I’ve been waiting for ever for them guess I’ll have to keep waiting
dull osprey
that's an early access game for ya~
quaint nexus
Hello i heard a sound in the game that sounded pretty much like an airplane. On the V3 map. Does anybody know what it could be?
broken grotto
Where? Time of the in game day?
twin vale
it's the wind and/or metal creaking
hardy dove
Sure it is.... sure it is....
eternal tide
If Carnage and Isle are connected... are the mercs from the primal carnage games unique people/characters like the TF2 playable roster, or more vague persons with particular roles via counterstrike?
little nimbus
[insert theory]
lost rivet
ooo primal carnage and isle, i didn't even think about that
rustic knoll
@visual karma No ETAs. Go read #rules-and-info.
dusk axle
Maybe mercs are made just as the dinosaurs, clones wich bodys you can inhabit
raw olive
Probably
slim lynx
@quaint nexus it was probably just thunder
quaint nexus
@slim lynx It sounded different than thunder. Almost like an airplane was flying above my head but there are no airplanes in The Isle, sometimes it went louder and lower it was weird but constant sound. Thunder sounds way different. I'll try and record it next time i'm in game.
edgy pike
Generally when the sound designer for the game states there aren't any plane sound effects that play in the game, it usually means there aren't any plane sound effects that play in the game
open tusk
All the dinos we now are robots!!
Ore are being controlled buy mashin.
echo gazelle
The Replicator is what controlls all I believe, or at least has the power to progress a profile and the Island is abandoned but still has been running over the years
ember finch
I’ve heard it too Kir and I’m not sure what it is. Definitely sounds like a plane and it’s usually at sunrise
If it isn’t a plane idk. It’s a weird sound that I can only compare to aircraft.
fossil lily
Dondi did say before that He did Human Cloning before JWFK
So the Merc thing could make sense
vernal vine
Almost forgot to mention a few hours ago when I was playing I definitely heard what KirSpace was hearing. Sounded like an airplane, and like it was going higher and lower or closer and farther (as it got louder and quieter). It couldn't have been thunder since the sky was clear
peak pewter
Please record that plane sound effect, I dont recall hearing it and Im very curious right now
slow delta
Which map was it on and at what time did you hear it
vernal vine
V3, and like Coco mentioned, at sunrise
Sadly it was on an official server and I don't record using other programs so I couldn't catch it
I'll try to get it next time I play
icy onyx
So i'm new to the isle, only have been playing for a week and have been hopping on different sites and channels to find out as much as I could. I saw somewhere where it mentioned humans will eventually be able to capture Dinosaurs. Do we know if that means ai exclusively or is that players?
granite grove
think both
amber hedge
So was watching a video about the primal carnage free roam, and saw the area they were playing in was atrium C
placid harness
disregard primal carnage extinction
twin vale
why?
ember flame
yah why??
placid harness
I was under the impression the pc:e lore did not matter in the grand scheme of things.
A good chunk of it was pre-existing to begin with.
icy onyx
Pretty sure Dondi said they would be no ties to PC and The Isle. But we keep getting the idea there are... So Its possible something has changed but I doubt it.
icy onyx
So it is highly speculated...
echo gazelle
There's that tweet and the one from the transmitter stating "Enter B-443", showing that photo. Also the number 443 has been showing up numerous times over the years. Like the radio picture for example, showing 1443 on the wall. It was also mentioned in the console interaction stating B-443 was a growth facility for the All-Father but was destroyed during operation inferno, and most recently I noticed in-game after you die, the texts to the right hand side can be seen stating "Vat Num #443 Ready" which commences a revivication process/resuscitation protocol (I wrote down the texts if you scroll up a bit, the complete version). This could mean B-443 could be a facility where all our consciousness reside? Also B-443 is a designate for the Magnatyrannus Solus. Check out the recent transmission as well. But Idk I could be wrong.
slow delta
Well its understandable the community got confused
First there were the obvious pc clues, then dondi said there's no pc connection and now we're told there is
Not sure how big a role pc/pce will play yet tho
icy onyx
i mean whose to say that PC, is just another base of operations for AE
fair dove
Here’s my theory: (inhale) a bunch of islands were discovered to have dinosaur bones well preserved and fresh. So they set up science experiments and Spliced a bunch of dinosaurs and prototypes. (Your guess on the Prototypes is as good as mine, maybe colorless asexual ones) they finally made full on dinosaurs and relished them in the wild for behavioral research. Dinosaurs were getting too close to human bases that force was needed, but Some varies of mutations were notice and causing strange deviants popping up. This would Explained how the Strains were active by the genetic correction. natives of the isles would start making themselves present from the dinosaurs returning.
Explaining that the strain monsters where their gods, before they stopped worshiping them somehow.
(I haven’t read the ones before mine cause it was too long :p if i already said the same thing as you do, than we’re on the same page. I take no credit for this idea)
trim comet
Doesn't really make sence but ok
broken grotto
it's.. some idea's from it are really interesting and could explain allot! some things tho.. their less likely
but it's a good start on a great theory!!
sleek field
I just noticed something... A youtuber was playing the Isle when he got the “apollo” message. I dont know if this was a easter egg or a random something, but when you look closely at the loading screen while entering the game or a server, you’ll also see some text in the top left corner.
One of the messages says:
“A P O L L O ONLINE”
Does this mean anything?
echo gazelle
@slow delta Hey which light morses have you decoded if you don't mind? Was it just the one next to the Quit button?
slow delta
yeah