AE uses profiles to develop the perfect organism. Through replication it constantly gives them back a dino in order to keep the development going, through continuous adaptation and learning new survival techniques and what not. You can see this as bug-reporting, if you please. Whenever something new gets added to the game, the players, or profiles will let the devs, or AE know, and you can guess some sort of update will come soon after to fix it. Therefore Force-evolving or making an attempt to perfect the organism
#isle-lore-theories
dusk axle
i know that replication extends all the way to dinosaurs and respective strains, maybe even human ones, but i wonder if mercenaries and cannibals or tribals are also subjected to this process...
vague inlet
mercenaries are likely to not be affected by the replicator, as one could assume they drop from helicopters and planes from somewhere far from the island
sinful hatch
yet it could be they were "integrated" into the replicator process, thus "unable to just leave" as it is suggested on the Store page (Steam)
wary obsidian
Good point
vague inlet
true
Referring to what dondi said on a earlier stream that the dinos are spawned in with a chip of some sort in their head
its also possible a mercenary could too if it was able to be replicated
blissful aspen
slow delta
Probably a teaser
We've seen similar things if you clip into underground unfinished things
nocturne cosmos
Yeah
blissful aspen
yeah i found another in spec mode in the container yard
gloomy olive
everyone seen this on the radio tower v3?
now that i look at it just looks like a rex or something's footprint on the handle?
utah tried to open the door 
broken grotto
remember something about the... ehh.. i think it was the Neuro rapter.. or Tisso.. being able to open doors
broken grotto
i heard it somewhere.. lemme find it
gloomy olive
maybe that can be a little thing to show whatever type of utah that they can open that door
broken grotto
yeh, think it was the Neuro Raptor being able to open doors
broken grotto
well..
we have no idea
we have hints of it being a island, a facility, but we don't know for sure
some people say Tartarus is the aviary
gloomy wave
it's the hyper raptor that could open door
broken grotto
welp, when i chose between 2 strains i skipped the strain that was the right one.. xD
gloomy wave
lmao
it's with his second hook claw or something iirc
or maybe I'm getting mixed up but I'm sure it was the hyper
broken grotto
i thought it was Neuro cause it's the most intelligent strain, guess i had my strains messed up xD thanks 😄
gloomy wave
np- the thing is we don't have much info on neuros or tisso ( forget tisso we don't have info at all, atleast we have the neuro spino I guess )
broken grotto
we have soooome information
Hypo is the bulky strain, Neuro is the trickster strain and Tisso the sneaky strain
insert any FPS reference here
gloomy wave
yeah well since Tisso has been remade we don't even have valid info anymore, hopefully it stays the sneaky strain but yeah
broken grotto
mhm.. i keep till the old lore till we get new lore that proves the old lore wrong if you get what i mean by the very confusing sentence
sage void
So, how are people getting messages like this? Is it just random, or at certain circumstances????
hearty mulch
Dondi shows up and does a command to send people those messages
sage void
Ohh, interesting
plain gale
special stuff streamers get
oak pumice
that's a bloody human handprint on the door handle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/546301707924013066/20190216111301_1.jpg
there's one beside the door of the shack that's up in the mountains on thenyaw
old pic but this shack, inaccessible except through replays and admin spec cam
mild meadow
@gloomy olive okay so bear with me as I havent been following Isle lore as I am just here to get input on an art piece I've been working on, BUT, being a bit of a fan of Greek and Roman Mythology, Tartarus is the prison that the Gods (Zeus, etc) cast the Titans into to imprison them, as they could not be defeated by other means.
Going off that, I would hypothesize that Tartarus will be the name of a facility where they kept some of the truly powerful and dangerous dinosaur strains that were created, and perhaps abandoned to a kind of cold storage.
But that's my take having absolutely nothing but a bunch of YT videos. I havent read up on lore myself. (Though this also means I'm not influenced by other ideas put out there by others, soooo take that as you will.)
earnest glade
We deducted that a while back^^
open compass
May not be an actual facility, but more akin to a computer server for storing EIPs
Same concept in any case
proper steppe
has anybody ever tried to figure out what the radio tower is saying in morse code with the light?
midnight sandal
What is the big human made area by the beach with the cranes? It looks kinda like a docking station for large boats =-=
limpid patio
I’m more interested in the massive flat area that’s next to it
Not next to, but nearby
mild meadow
@earnest glade I figured someone had, but Oppyu asked specifically about the name Tartarus, so I wasnt sure if they had heard it before.
placid harness
AI spawns near hungry predators because they don't want hungry animals poking their noses elsewhere.
broken grotto
@mild meadow there's allot of mythology in the Isle, like Experiment HADES, the Olympus transmitter, Tartarus, a mention of Poseidon, and probably some other's i don't know out of my head. have you looked into that? you might like it 😄 and maybe find something we can't because you're clearly into mythology
mild meadow
@broken grotto point me towards lore sources and I will do my best. I've got a friend who is even more into than me!
gloomy olive
ah that makes a lot of sense actually , thanks :)! @mild meadow
mild meadow
Thanks!
wraith ginkgo
Im just starting to put all this lore together, but its kinda confusing. Can someone sum it up for me here?
mild meadow
Knowing humanity... people made dinosaurs then did a Big Dumb and lots of people got their faces eaten.
Yknow. To sum it up.
loud river
People made Dinos and weird Non-Dino things and things went wrong and Bam The Isle
mild meadow
Oh, and in their hubris, named their projects after Gods, because that's never been foreshadowing for horrible things before.
dusk axle
ma belive is that certain "accidents " deaths and breakouts are on purpuse to fullfill a higher goal, i always have in mind what Don said about that, notheing in the isle happens by accident or casuality, everything is planned and calculated....
random creek
@proper steppe ive seen someone who tried, he got something like: "we cant pick favorites"
i couldnt get shite cause i dont understand morse
bronze fox
Gosh, and I thought the scientists in the Jurassic Park universe were hiding scary secrets. The scientists in the Isle universe are hiding even scarier things.
crude quartz
I found a building that you can walk into
without glitching into it
and it has interior decoration
so thats a thing.
crude quartz
I uploaded the screenshots
it was dark in there so alot of them are nightvision
it was a building in the harbor compound
any thoughts? I mean, it didn't seem like anything to base major theories on but it could mean a possible update... then again thats entirely speculation.
Hello?
bronze fox
I saw the screenshots. Rather interesting that nothing happens to the signal when you go in there.
crude quartz
?... huh... I didn't notice that... I could have sworn... that it was glitching in there but... how odd.
magic elbow
hearty mulch
Eyy it's the primal carnage genesis door
Labelling aside the model is the same
or rather extremely goddamn similar and intentionally so
magic elbow
Now that you pointed it out the more i look the more similarities there are, I'm not saying its a coincidence but this has to mean something about the relations with the isle and primal carnage
peak siren
it says you never saw the other side of the door...is that the gate?
like the gate to the isle?
if anyone remembers wasn't there supposed to be a big gate
steady dove
Our big red lad
hearty mulch
Funny to see things from a game that was basically only a few models and a stage be painstakingly remade
Funny in a good way, for me at least
We're in the computers boys
blissful plume
Or are we part of the computer
fringe flame
those thing are doors opening right?
blissful plume
I think that's where the replicator does its thing
pearl palm
So we're on the inside?
hearty mulch
ye
blissful plume
yup
pearl palm
But this is just an image right? Like could we actually find this in game
blissful plume
so we're looking through someone or something eyes from the inside
fringe flame
what if were i a massive frige
hearty mulch
@fringe flame you'd be massive
blissful plume
I think so
pearl palm
So does this mean the transmission is referring to the magna? Saying the magna has never seen the other side of the door? Which could be where we are?
Or we havent seen the magna cause we're on the other side
idk
hearty mulch
We're in the same lab
pearl palm
As far as the image goes yes
fringe flame
if were a frige that mean the dinos would be the leftovers from time that u and ur roommate have ignored
pearl palm
But not actually in the game. Unless the entire world in the game is the lab?
loud herald
We are the lab rats
fringe flame
but than what would be the moldy chezz at the bottem :/
loud herald
We are only a test
hearty mulch
@fringe flame tacos
fringe flame
ur right @hearty mulch
proper steppe
We must be in the side with the rexy boy
fringe flame
and then the roommate who stalks the frige every night/the sientest would be looking for something gud
pearl palm
Why would we want to see the other side of the door?
fringe flame
becuz its were the leftovers are
hearty mulch
It's not much fun being stuck in a room full of amniotic fluids and old computers
pearl palm
But we aren't the magna is
sharp zenith
For cooling.
pearl palm
This is what i'm saying. I don't think the transmission is speaking to us directly cause we aren't there.
proper steppe
What more can be said about this? It pretty much 100% confirms PC connections
blissful plume
yup
sharp zenith
intake/exhaust vents prove computers?
fringe flame
whats a mana and y would it be in a frige?
sharp zenith
What if there's some fugly beast on the other side
proper steppe
Which means people need to dig up all the old The Isle X Primal Carnage lore ideas because they all could be possible again
fringe flame
beats are discusting y would there be one there :/
sharp zenith
Because they want to see the world dyed red
pearl palm
"oopsie"
proper steppe
What if it's the gateway that has been shown in earlier posts in this channel?
fringe flame
what if it was a frige door
ember flame
Damm lore blowing up
hearty mulch
It would be warmer on the other side
fringe flame
but what if the door was a mini door in a biger frige
proper steppe
I don't think there's much more to be said from this picture
blissful plume
I mean the replicator is the one pushing all this. I feel like the humans will have to take it back from the replicator. My little idea
ember flame
we are on the other side of the door
fringe flame
theres a lot to be said like y is it green in there
proper steppe
We are on the rex side of the door and that's it, really
ember flame
so this is the magnas perspective
proper steppe
Biggest thing this does is validate a ton of old PC lore and make it connected to The Isle
fringe flame
i mean maybe mold
ember flame
how sad
sharp zenith
What's with the cable in front of it though? Someone's gonna trip.
fringe flame
i know all the mold in the frige discusting
proper steppe
blissful plume
Or a retelling/reboot
ember flame
true
hearty mulch
Something
fringe flame
or is a frige
ember flame
the isle is a something primal carnage
blissful plume
It could the PC don had in mind
ember flame
a better pc
blissful plume
^
ember flame
No extinction bullshit
proper steppe
It doesn't mean The Isle is suddenly Primal Carnage
hearty mulch
All the skins are free
proper steppe
wtf
It means the lores are connected, doesn't mean it's a reboot of Primal Carnage
sharp zenith
The doors look alike. Must be primal carnage.
ember flame
is this door an in game model?
blissful plume
Or he's add the best things about pc and add it to the isles
fringe flame
or maybe the extion is u gettuing rid of the crusty old frige
blissful plume
idk
hearty mulch
@bronze forum
fringe flame
yah he whould want out of that hose ith a green crusty old fridge
this is makeing sence now
y dose everyobne egnor my therorys?!
hearty mulch
I love your theories
hearty fox
"please keep your theories serious and on topic, people derrailing the topic, shitposting or meme dropping will be kicked/banned this is your warning.", to quote the channel topic
hearty mulch
Assumed to do with the dinosaurs not being the most organic things in the world
blissful plume
^
hearty mulch
Salmonella is also a major bitch
hearty mulch
Orcs do make manual labor a difficulty
hearty mulch
For serious, aside from the assets being positioned weirdly, totally is natural
proper steppe
or
hearty mulch
It's just a bay with no coast
proper steppe
Thenyaw isn't lore related and was a placeholder map
ember flame
But I think that pic in transmissions of that big ass door was in game
proper steppe
Why are we talking about thenyaw? V3 is clearly the lore map
hearty mulch
Big door
eternal tide
So it's confirmed that the isle and primal carnage are the same identity.
hearty mulch
Here's the other side of the door itself
hearty mulch
Did in the trailer, for a time
ember flame
At least we get to see what the door looks like on the other side
outer hull
Wait what is all father again
ember flame
Magna dude
hearty mulch
PC rex/Magnarex
ember flame
the chill rex
outer hull
Ah
ember flame
But if you notice the back of door looks very old now
outer hull
Wait those codes on the door, do those match any of the codes from the old tips that appeared on the load in screen
I kinda remember there being codes on those
ember flame
you could see the paint is cracking on the door in the transmissions
ember flame
We could assume that a lot of time has passed by
This door hasn't been opened in along time
That's for sure.
It was opened
could of been closed
YES
proper steppe
What makes you think that humans are somehow going extinct, icecream?
proper steppe
That moment when one island has dinosaurs, so your whole species commits seppuku
ember flame
dude there are definitely humans here
proper steppe
Not sure icecream does
spare rivet
I feel like they all have to be hiding in those bunkers we come across. Perhaps they use the cameras installed on them unlike the ones on other buildings?
proper steppe
Where's the V3 map with human structures on it? it doesn't look like the map of a totally abandoned place
eternal tide
I think "monster dilo" is going to be magna dilo, and magna animals are spiritual successors of primal carnage playable roster
ember flame
thats until merc become a thing though
spare rivet
Wait, does that mean Magna Spino 👀
eternal tide
What do you guys think?
ember flame
fuck loosing my rex to some ass whole with a LMG
proper steppe
@eternal tide That's smart
spare rivet
Unless Merc's get stuff airdropped which can definitely happen.
proper steppe
it's a military place, these aren't real problems considering how mercs have been described
If the place is abandoned, which the mercs' presence suggests against, then it wouldn't just be because of dinosaurs
ember flame
Maybe mercs take on some worker roles
eternal tide
If magna animals are spiritual successors of the primal carnage playable roster, then we've got interesting stuff in the future.
spare rivet
Cept Giga won't get a magna form if that's the case.
proper steppe
@ember flame Almost like a real military outpost thing
proper steppe
No, wtf, that isn't hypo dryo
hearty mulch
That was a dryo injection way back when
eternal tide
Magna Carno, Pteranodon, Spinosaurus, Dilo, and Acro would be on the way in theory
proper steppe
Not only have herbs been said to not have strains, not only is dryo not an apex herb, but that is a dryo injection
spare rivet
That's just injections for dinosaurs. That was back then when Dryo wasn't in survival. Sandbox dinosaurs get injected into survival servers/official servers. And must survive, breed and thrive, if they all die they don't have a good chance of getting put into survival.
proper steppe
Mutton ninja'd me but I wanted to post what I typed
eternal tide
(Imagine how wierd it would be if acro had a damn strain?)
hearty mulch
I wouldn't be completely set on the magnas being straight counterparts just yet until we see more than two
Especially since utah is being renamed
proper steppe
(imagine how redundant it would be if acro had a damn strain?)
spare rivet
We dunno
hearty mulch
Probably Novaraptor
spare rivet
Ok?
proper steppe
That is what renaming Utah would entail
hearty mulch
Utahraptor isn't a real utahraptor, and it is getting a rename
hearty mulch
In the isle? Nothing
proper steppe
A species of raptor
hearty mulch
Utahraptor will cease to exist when it gets renamed
proper steppe
There wont be a utahraptor in the game
hearty mulch
No replacement to take the name
eternal tide
I get the feeling not all of the PC:E animals will be converted to strains
eternal tide
but all of the original primal carnage animals could receive magna equivalents (although pteranodon is a big ?)
ember flame
I think....
proper steppe
We don't know
eternal tide
Magnalophosaurus?
being derived from the primal carnage extinction adult dilophosaurus
proper steppe
Could be any other type of strain for all we know
proper steppe
No, he make a distinction between regular dilo and monster dilo
eternal tide
It could be, but given magnarex is primal carnage rex and magnaraptor is likely to be an extension of primal carnage's novaraptor (unless base utah is turned into novaraptor)
proper steppe
well magnaraptor has been remade and all
It originally was a komodo dragon raptor
not at all a novaraptor
hearty mulch
It is why I said hold off until more than magnarex is shown off basically
eternal tide
Still getting the feeling this is the road we are headed towards based upon this announcement
it pretty much confirms that PC:E rex is magnarex right?
hearty mulch
Confirms it basically
spare rivet
It does confirm it
hearty mulch
Since some of the assets retrieved include B-443 and B-442
spare rivet
I can tell by the appearances of the two compared to one another.
proper steppe
it only confirms that PC and The Isle will be connected, the magna rex = PC rex bit is better suggested elsewhere
@hearty mulch that would be something else confirming it
eternal tide
proper steppe
I'd say it was confirmed long before this announcement
spare rivet
Both the magna and pc rex have those back scales that are exaggerated and have the differently-oriented head shape.
proper steppe
Ok, ignore what I just said, that's fine too
hearty mulch
eternal tide
...I wonder
if the date 4 years prior to that date
was the announcement of primal carnage: genesis
eternal tide
the fact that there could be a second carno strain is tilting, but at least it's more likely we get pteranodon (and possibly acro) as magna strains I guess.
placid harness
Hahaha. Big Daddy is canon.
eternal tide
I mean a pteranodon strain.
The idea being that magna animals are for animals that were playables in the original primal carnage.
(and possibly extinction, although a bit of a stretch)
placid harness
There are obvious parallels between lore in extinction and in The Isle, however both share possible lore derived from Genesis and the original PC.
eternal tide
Given it's quite likely either utah will be turned into novaraptor or magnaraptor is an extension of the idea, and magna rex is extremely likely to be primal carnage rex.
placid harness
So I'd leave Extinction out of the picture.
eternal tide
Actually I take that back, spino was in original primal carnage too wasn't he
spare rivet
Good ol GTTC
eternal tide
Magnaspinus, Magnataurus, Magnalophosaurus, Magnanodon (wow that sounds like a shitty name) would be the other 4 magna strains
if the theory that magna animals are animals that were playables in the og primal carnage
coincidentally, all of these (except pteranodon) are playable or are planned to be playable in survival atm
placid harness
All dinosaurs that were planned / were put into primal carnage are currently in the isle.
Save for ptera and co.
Novaraptor might just be the Magnaraptor.
eternal tide
If quetz is in, then pteranodon is theoretically in too
(Man, imagine a playable who can swim AND fly?)
placid harness
I mean, Quetz was integrated into the lore in its own right.
It started off on the old PC forums with Big Alphie and such
Then it made a little cameo in Extinction
crude quartz
wait... I've been reading and I'd like a clearification
what is the status on the strains? Because we all know hypos are a thing. One Neuro was made. There is supposed to be a tisso. But what is up with Magna? Wasn't that strain unconfirmed or just a fan idea?
eternal tide
"Magna" are confirmed to be strains
crude quartz
really?
eternal tide
but magna strains aren't quite like hyperendocrine, tisso, or neuro strains
placid harness
I don't believe magnas are strains related to hypo, tisso, and neuro.
placid harness
neon helm
Wait, is maga rex Specimen B-443?
hasty herald
how about the new strain that was in between two different strains are ther still going to be added to the game?
placid harness
This might not matter, but in PC:E, the novaraptor was referred to as a strain.
crude quartz
the strains are horrifying amalgimations while the magna is basically a bigger guy?
eternal tide
It's pretty likely magnaraptor or renamed utah will be novaraptor
placid harness
This is out there, but maybe Phoenix discovered something that allowed development of these strains and Apollo inherited them through some means, further refining them into other strains.
hasty herald
Like this one
placid harness
Magna could be the "default" strain, so to speak.
crude quartz
which strain is that?
I don't... wait
that looks like tissoplastic strain
or whatever they are called
eternal tide
If it's the case, then we can assume there will be things like magna-carnotaurus in our future
crude quartz
oh no... welp rip me
eternal tide
I don't know if that's confirmed information
crude quartz
HOW DO YOU LIVE FROM SOMTHING LIKE THAT???
eternal tide
Neuro are not strains between tisso and hypo
crude quartz
HOW WOULD YOU EVEN BALANCE IT?
eternal tide
magna are not such either iirc
hasty herald
idk
crude quartz
are you sure it isn't just a tisso?
hasty herald
maybe less attack damage but balance it our with neuro abilities?
crude quartz
hmmmm
hasty herald
Hypo on top tisso under but whats in between?
crude quartz
wait... yeah
ember flame
Tisso
crude quartz
that is hypo tisso and neuro
hasty herald
oh
hasty herald
I think I screwed up
crude quartz
still a horrifying beast
hasty herald
yeah
crude quartz
come to think of it... we've only ever really seen hypo
ember flame
Tisso is in the middle
hasty herald
yeah
eternal tide
More previous statements possibly alluding to primal spino being playable
if the realistic semi-aquatic spino is a playable in survival, then the magna could be the jp3/primal spino
That was alluded to being playable before.
hasty herald
its got the weather ability
I heard it was based on that bear movie that dondi got the inspearation from for neuro
hasty herald
But I meant for the modle of neuro spino's face
Neuro spino
The bear
@eternal tide
eternal tide
That movie came out after neurotonic splashart/concept art
hearty mulch
While annihilation was mentioned in regards to how the neutotenic strain works, the neuro spino is based off of tapwing's work
eternal tide
iirc
hearty mulch
it did
eternal tide
one of tapwings strain animals was shown on sodas/etc stream
hasty herald
oh
eternal tide
that wasn't outright confirmed but don showed them
ember flame
neuro spino looks more like a alien decayed horse
hasty herald
lmao
crude quartz
eh, I think the neuro strain just looks cool
hearty mulch
Arvak but spinosaur
crude quartz
pfffttt
hasty herald
Whats the difference between neuro and tisso strains? @crude quartz @hearty mulch @eternal tide
hypo does more attack neuro controlls weather and effect but tisso?
oh
do they have faster dps in attacks?
noice
imaging tisso spino with bleed affects and invisibility
icy onyx
Supposedly its supposed to be an assassin
crude quartz
tisso has posion attacks, camoflague, is faster, has a ranged spine attack and is overall terrorfying because it'll kill you and eat you before you new it was there
might I repeat once more
a dino...
hasty herald
thats op
hasty herald
bleed+poison
icy onyx
Its end game really
hasty herald
for stuff like tisso giga
hasty herald
yeah
crude quartz
so have fun going through the night when you won't spot this thing in an open field in midday
so we basically have
hypo: eats entire server and dies of starvation
neuro: so intellegent that it commands the VERY WEATHER TO SMITE YEEE... also so it can have a well done stake
and tisso: sneaky assasin that sniped you from a ridge over and waited for you to either try to rest the posion off or die from it
oh and the Shadowwarrior strain: dies from dehydration moments before drowning
OH RIGHT
SO
any theories anyone has that we can theorize to add nausium?
hasty herald
no
eternal tide
hearty fox
I love the amount of proof for ptera and carno
eternal tide
The theory- Isle is directly connected to primal carnage, and that all playable members of the original primal carnage will appear in some form of playable state in the Isle. Magnatyrannus being the Tyrannosaur in Primal Carnage, "Utahraptor" or possibly magnaraptor as developed forms of the Novaraptor from primal carnage. The "Monster dilo" being a magnalophosaurus, being related to or a derivative of the primal carnage dilophosaurus.
There's not much evidence on behalf of spinosaurus, carnotaurus, and pteranodon though
Aside from the idea that theoretically, survival spinosaurus is a fisher as implied from the ask-a-dev sessions, and would lean more on the semi-aquatic side than the previous spino.
Resulting in a "Magnaspinus" Jp3/Carnage spino equivalent.
Carno and Pteranodon are the real huge question mark here.
It's pretty strongly implied dilo is getting a strain, although the kind of strain is not yet clear.
They probably aren't aside from the idea they are referred to as the same animal.
Carnage carno would likely be a strain if implemented
I still think dondi's new default utah textures highly imply it's novaraptor.
Same color scheme.
eternal tide
tan belly, light green body, dark green back, with red/orange hues on the eyes
Easily Magnatyrannus and Nova/Utah have the strongest evidence of primal playables being in Isle
Followed by dilo with a pretty strong implication
Spino with a confirmation he's coming with a redesign
Carnotaurus with the idea that he's in survival, so a strain equivalent is possible
then in the rear comes pteranodon, who shows up on the steam page
It could still be in as ai
even if not as a playable.
Sort of
mellow parrot
in the past, Dondi has stated there is no connection to PC, however he also did want to connect the two games a long time ago, but his old boss said no to connecting the games (yes he worked for PC at some point in development in that game). But as of recently, Dondi has since gotten a drive and said about full filling a promise he didn't intentially make. This is where people begun to speculate that the possiblity of the games being in the same universe are back up don't count on it being 100% confirmed though
dusk axle
i just wonder if the new image released is a location at some map for future branchs...
hearty mulch
He also posted the other side of the primal carnage genesis door
So basically 100% confirmed
teal wing
whats the lore behind primal carnage
placid harness
I'll just say this - the extinction default novaraptor is probably not the cause for the new "utah" pattern.
eternal tide
he said when he posted it he liked a "rather primal style" of raptor
and it has the same color scheme
eternal tide
Well, both animals have a tan underbelly, light green body with dark green stripes, with complimenting orange around the eyes
placid harness
Yet the execution of those traits are drastically different.
The stripes aren't as the thick. The green is a different shade.
eternal tide
the biggest difference is the white line on the back on both sides
similar to the JP3 raptors
placid harness
Underbelly color is also more prominent in the Utah
oak pumice
"but dondeh utah needs the blue detail color so i can make blu from jw"
eternal tide
Fun fact: You can pick sucho's blue colors by resetting to default, but no other animal can use them
But anyway...
oak pumice
brb making sucho default a preset
the current default with the orange back is ugly af
eternal tide
@oak pumice it's his best pallet imo, but that'll be all I have to say about it in this channel
I think it's pretty clear the don was implying the default color scheme was inspired (not directly copied from) primal nova
but we know utah is getting a rename anyway.
Magnatyrannus doesn't look identical to primal rex but it's highly implied they are the same animal.
I'm gonna head to bed though.
placid harness
You see, Magnatyrannus actually has a legit PC rex skin.
But nonetheless I would agree that there would be similarities existing with the current utah and novaraptor with the stripe on its back.
echo gazelle
A transmission...I'm dieing in the indside. It feels like it's been so long. But Carnage is coming folks.
So Magnas were created for perfectionism...to counter what nature couldn't. We Succeed Where Nature Fails
ionic summit
Wait so he's working on another game except making this one better?
echo gazelle
@ionic summit No. Primal Carnage was a game Dondi worked on years ago. He wasn't the lead Dev and was limited to what he was able to do. So a certain playerbase that wasn't his (Primal Carnage Playerbase) was promised by him that he will do right by them (Meaning create a great Dinosaur game or the Dinosaur game). So he later split off and created The Isle. Much like many Devs who no longer work on one game, branch off and create their own. Which is their case. Now old theories are rising, linking both Primal Carnage and The Isle together...they are not literally the same game, but they share something significant. But this is no story time..there's other times for that, this is a channel for theories about The Isle.
The transmission is intriguing...maybe its foreshadowing that we are never escaping
regal sundial
He recently got rights to primal stuff so now that whole part of the plot is no longer on the back burner
I'd say The Isle is like, a spiritual successor/re-imagining or side story off of Primal Carnage
broken grotto
please don't start about dream theory.. please
good question
we know AE has been working on stuff like concience of a human in a dinosaur body, maybe it's not in a dinosaur body but in some soft of hallucination to test.. something and... a dream theory would inrage the fanbase.. we've heard that in every game that used it, like.. FNAF for lack of a better example
echo gazelle
Not a dream necessarily, I just used dream as an example. But it could be similar, in a dream you can wake up, but if you're being conditioned, monitored, controlled, then there is no waking up, you are a part of a machine.
That was taken way out of context
I wasn't finished
broken grotto
i do like the idea of Luncha tho.. severak transmissions talk about the chain, waking up
it's a good idea.. we just have to flesh it out a bit
echo gazelle
Everybody doubts, nobody comes to common ground. The story isn't even known.
broken grotto
yeh, that's why i threw my theory in here
echo gazelle
I enjoyed that theory Robin
broken grotto
i want to tweak it, work on it and get something that i believe is true
like.. i'll add the Primal Carnage lore soon enough, maybe the dream theory.. if it fits in the theory
tranquil galleon
@icy onyx neuro doesn’t control other dinosaurs, it can only talk to other dinosaurs
echo gazelle
But the recent transmission really had me thinking that we the subjects never really left.
That door could be Gateway for all I know
broken grotto
i already had a feeling something like that was going on.. i really like the idea Luncha.. i'll look into it when i got the time 😄
no no.. but.. ehh
oak pumice
wait fnaf was "all a dream"?
i stopped following that series after the third one this is news to me
broken grotto
how do i explain this.. xD
echo gazelle
Nobody is saying it is a dream, I said dream was an example of being trapped, everything seems real but isn't
broken grotto
the FNAF game was supposed to be a dream until they added Sister Location and FNAF 6, but that's for another time xD Scott changed the lore cause the fanbase was outraged xD
anyway, back to the Isle
oak pumice
so if this isn't a simulation, and we really are dying over and over in an actual dino body...do they just have all these juvie dinos on standby or...
broken grotto
what Luncha said, like some transmissions from the Transmitter are really working about being traped and stuff.. i'll make a document about it later today for you Cretaceous 😄
oak pumice
and with the skin customization, are we making designer dinos which will be grown to juvie stage and then our consciousness will be implanted into them?
how long does that take?
broken grotto
a simulation is.. more like a part of a vugger theory.. if you get what i mean
bigger*
echo gazelle
The transmitter I feel like mentioned us the players I strongly believe. In this transmission.
After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled into an archive they handed down through the generations. As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most basic and violent ideologies remained. When it mentioned "their stories compiled into an archive they handed down through the generations." This a reference to us? Our mental level of finding a way "out" just bursted and violence remained
broken grotto
i think "after the fifteenth cycle... ...only the most basic and violent ideologies remained" is talking about the Cannibals. Egidna comes to the tribals and starts mutating them into 'her children," and after the fifteenth cycle they started telling stories and worshipping Egidna, making the observations harder. you hear about "the deterioration of advanced cognivtive functions," again prbably talking about the Cannibals
echo gazelle
There's that too, another transmission right after said "rage can twist even the most noble purpose to that of cruelty"
Yeah now that I think about it
It's cannibals
broken grotto
😄
oak pumice
after being transplanted into a dinosaur body and subsequently dying fifteen times, advanced cognitive functions have stopped, and only our most basic survival instincts are left
broken grotto
that's also a possibility.. like.. the human mind got transplated into a dinosaur and they get rebirthed for study, but after a few cycles they just started acting like dinosaurs cause they kept dieing..?
oak pumice
but the humans would somehow need to escape into the wilderness and there they would become the cannibals
broken grotto
nah
the tribals were living on the island before AE took it over
they studied the tribals, Egidna escaped and turns a few tribals into cannibals and then... yeh
oak pumice
James Cameron's Avatar
echo gazelle
Ahh..we tried escaping rather than acting like Dinosaurs, so they created the Affinity Complex
broken grotto
the Affinity Complex.. hmm..
echo gazelle
That's in a transmission as well, the affinity
Dondi mentions it may tie to lore, the affinity
oak pumice
i mean...it's pretty simple...if we're being transplanted into actual dino bodies then those bodies have needs, and it would hurt us/the dino if we didn't give them what they needed
an obligate carnivore can't eat plants
y
eternal briar
AFFINITY SYSTEM COMING SOON ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
broken grotto
i feel like we are really getting somewhere here!!
echo gazelle
If we don't behave as told then it will kill us entirely. Going past limit and reason, sacrificing everything to get back what we lost. Life. Memories. Also this is just a theory. Don't derail it.
broken grotto
i remember.. lemme get a quote for that Luncha ^^
oak pumice
if the human consciousness overrides the dino body's needs then it will weaken the dino body which will result in an earlier death, so it's in the human consciousness' best interest to take its utah for walkies
broken grotto
"Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.
Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do." is one of them Luncha
echo gazelle
nobody said actual humans brains are being implemented into Dinosaurs
broken grotto
they want us to Repeat the same pattern over.. and over
oak pumice
> ref: James Cameron's Avatar
broken grotto
"Sometimes, right before consciousness slips away, you can see all of them waiting for you." i feel this is.. important
echo gazelle
Take what I said earlier. Dreaming. Now dream about being a Dinosaur. But in The Isle, it's not a dream.
broken grotto
consciousness slipping away..? that's.. specific
echo gazelle
Maybe the death filter.
When you die in-game, there's a whole bunch of things that pop up. HellShade added a recent one to the Document
broken grotto
did he? i'll look at it right away
echo gazelle
Also the DNA Filter mentions Dream 3 times.
broken grotto
interesting~
echo gazelle
There's a Clearance Code...a Harvest Base and someone says HELP ME
broken grotto
a Harvest B.. hmm
echo gazelle
A satellite triangulation is required from the Dockyard for the Signal to reach, pushing the story forward
oak pumice
"Cranial abnormality in asset (A.fragilis), re-sequencing. . "
allo v2 was butt ugly with fat lips so they remodelled it
lol
echo gazelle
Scroll down to the Death Filter, it's really interesting
broken grotto
@echo gazelle Harvest Base..?
hasty herald
where do people get these images?
hasty herald
true
oak pumice
"!WARNING! - Power Cells Depicted"
...*depleted?
echo gazelle
Could be. Maybe the growth facility is the harvest base, idk
I am curious what this is
Event log update - asset tracking - L#01-A
broken grotto
yeh.. me too
oak pumice
L#01-Alpha?
broken grotto
or L#01-Apollo
echo gazelle
There's also Signal source locked and it gives a coordinate, wonder if it's in-game
oak pumice
what's the coordinates?
echo gazelle
Just shows 192.168.1.1
wooden bridge
funny, that happens to also be the default gateway for most routers xD
carmine marsh
has this been talked about yet?
sweet zephyr
oh ?
carmine marsh
it's on the storepage
might be nothing
just thought i'd show it here incase nobody has noticed it yet
broken grotto
AE Core TX is interesting. Promotion protocol is probably their ways off saying it's the bottom of the store page. Signal wad interrupted by.. Apollo Engineering...??? The end is never the end is their catchphrase so..
raw olive
Maybe the store page ties into the story as an ad for the Isle
Like a theme park thing but it’s definitely not a theme park
Maybe recruiting scientists or something
Idk
slow delta
its on the doc
sinful hatch
Its actually quite interesting to watch the eternal loop. I see similar conversations we already had way back, come up again, sometimes there is variation, and sometimes its the same questions.
Like I said, very interesting to see the organic nature of this channel in the works.
broken grotto
i feel like that ^ is also a statement about the Isle
we repeat the same behaviour
over and over
"Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.
Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do."
we have to stop repeating the same patterns to get to a point where we find something interesting and new
so who makes a catalogue of the most asked questions to get out of the loop
sinful hatch
well, true. Its amazing how a pattern can show even with many individuals involved.
broken grotto
it's incredible, but it's what's expected, and it's what we have to break
sinful hatch
I find online games very interesting from that perspective. This is why I look forward to affiny system and how that will tie back into the lore as well, since it should cause a shift on some habits.
broken grotto
that's the whole point of Apollo
sinful hatch
indeed
broken grotto
it's even in their catchphrase
"the end is never the end is never the end is never the end"
a endless loop
gloomy wave
hmm
what would changing the pattern be defined as ?
I assume the current pattern is " be born, eat, drink, hunt, survive, die, repeat "
gloomy wave
in game
broken grotto
if we keep asking the same questions in this chat we won't get anywhere
if we keep doing the same things in their we won't get anywhere.. the current pattern is "born, survive, die, get reincarnated"
gloomy wave
maybe strains are entities that defy this pattern that was laid out in some way
becoming
well
disasters
broken grotto
like Egidna?
she deffinetly broke the pattern by making the cannibals, something AE was completely surprised by
raw olive
Maybe the key to breaking this loop is destroying/disrupting the Replicator beyond repair?
Like Echidna making the cannibals, the Replicator wasn’t involved afaik
The dinos have to win against the technology?
Do we know anything about the door?
When I first saw it I was reminded of the pce trailer
I’m trying to spew ideas so maybe I can get a hold on something so just tell me if I’m dead wrong, but maybe it holds the Replicator or experimentation stuff with the strains
If we’ve never seen the other side that would mean it’s either broken or extremely top secret
broken grotto
Some speculated it was the Gateway facility
gloomy wave
I'm 110% sure that door is the exact same door from the PCE trailer except from the other side
broken grotto
Interesting.. can you give me a pic of that PCE door for comparison with the recent transmission door? 😄
icy onyx
You might hear a 40 foot long and multi ton monster swimming @lost surge
However fully submerged, you would most likely not hear it
rigid cobalt
Radar tower flashing could be Morse code ?
mhm
might check it out
lol
i dont know morse code
or anything about it so
maybe i'll try but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hopefully talking about it someone might go and discover it
echo gazelle
Tower lights dont translate to anything. I've tried it , repeats in the same pattern. Unless I'm missing something it's probably just for aesthetics.
amber hedge
The lights may show that it's still actively transmitting data.
Or it could be like a wind turbine most turbines will have a light on top that will sometimes blink in unison with other turbines
tiny carbon
Alrighty, so as for that text on the bottom of the store page, I think it just moreso goes on to prove the theory of We, the players, as well as the devs are literally part of the lore. Like, 4th wall kind of shit. So, when we type in-game we can hear the sound of a keyboard clicking. This points to us being someone sitting and typing, as does all the computer jumble that pops up when we die and all the static when we go near buildings and etc... Basically, we're the ones that are controlling the dinosaurs, and the Devs themselves are Apollo Engineering. Rodrigo Vega was mentioned once in the lore and (I believe) was one of the concept artists for the game in its early stages. His literal name was in the lore.
I'm not aware on if the community has accepted this theory to be truth or not, but just thought I'd post it to remind everyone that the theory is out there.
cinder hollow
Is this door the same place as the containment unit at the docks in v3...?
I should really visit that place at night...
leaden nexus
been hearing strange things underwater at the reservoir(titan lake), you guys got any clue as to what those implicate?
lyric ibex
is this not from primal carnage extinction?
like the one from contingency
the layout is mostly the same
with the caution borders and the steel plating
amber hedge
Well dondi did work with primal carnage before making the isle, it would make sense
echo gazelle
Has anyone been to the bottom of the lake as a Sucho where the Giant Ribs are? If so does anything strange happen?
tiny carbon
I think the door being refrenced is the one in the Primal Carnage: Genesis or something like that trailer with the PC Rex breaking out of containment in an empty lab
for those that don't wanna watch it
But if you actually do watch a little past that
Then you get this view of the cage, and the floor just infront of the door
Here you can see the cables, and even the yellow caution pattern on either side of the walkway
reposting for convenience
better angle of the above that shows the caution pattern
And the transmission reads you never saw what was on the other side of the door
Well, it's not entirely wrong. If that recreation of the door is from the inside, the same side that the Rex is on, then even in the trailer we never get to look back through the door
As in the trailer we only get to see it open before we're swept inside. And dondi did say earlier yesterday:
The only contingency error I see with this is that immediately going through the door it opens up into the much wider room, and there doesn't appear to be a light shining direction onto the door (could just be for atmospheric decoration, dunno). The problem with this is that in the teased pic of the door, we seem to be in a sort of hallway with metal on the edges. As for whether or not the room opens up just beyond the camera's view, we can't be sure.
swift herald
a lot of radio towers have beacons on them that blink randomly it just means it's receiving signals I believe
hasty herald
But what are they receiving and why does that affect animals like dinosaurs
@swift herald
echo gazelle
@hasty herald The decoded morse is on the document, look in the pinned messages above. It was decoded a while ago by Slam,Meaty and George. Basically says we are controlled, awaiting signal from dockyard, etc. Would rather you see the entire document for a better overlook on everything.
hasty herald
@echo gazelle thanks
echo gazelle
Huge stretch but the Red Square looks a lot like the AE Menu Screen with the circle around the globe, but in the video the AE symbol isn't visible, it shows it without actually showing it. Now the Green Arrows are the computers while the Yellow arrows could be us. This is more of a theory but if we are the computers, a machine, with human dna uploaded as an EIP onto a Dinosaur we live it's life within the green incubation things until we are complete as a profile in order for replication? B-443 however escaped it's containment, and if it's theorized to be the Magna or a designated specimen used to create the Magna, maybe it escaping caused a hazard throughout the Island, destroying healthy test environments. Since the the machine is still in control, maybe it lost connection but can still cause things such as Static screens near structures or display its location etc allowing humans who have access to them, explaining the tracking. But still a stretch.
gloomy olive
Going on the whim that we are on the inside of the door, it might be the situation that you are the dinosaur or Rex that is stuck ??
And the big cables do look very similar to the ones scattered along the floor in the trailer
gleaming coral
Or it might just mean "you are still inside a testing environment, the "outer world" is not what it seems. You are still inside a/the lab". Literally or metaphorically, that is.
wooden bridge
So I'm fairly new to the game, but I've been lurking in this channel a few days now and I like what I've read so far. Though I feel I'm missing quite a lot. Is there somewhere I can cach up on what people have discoverd and e.t.c to also get a better understanding of how people have come across this?
If I understand correct a lot comes from the transmissions channel, but it seems like stuff also comes from in game?
echo gazelle
@wooden bridge Check the pinned messages above. Start with Tater's website, then read through the Document created by several community members, it contains fresh new stuff compared to Tater's site which is more of an Archive. Also subscribe to MeatyLock on Youtube
wooden bridge
Thanks a lot @echo gazelle
gloomy olive
@gleaming coral I love your idea
Because we have seen a lot of things that question the reality or something I forgot the actual line but the message was but it was when that dryo blew up
and that really really gets my mind working 
All these questions
super excited for all them to be answered ;))
ocean blade
JUST A theory a game theory
gloomy olive
I'm quaking
slow delta
I too thought the door might be related to the rex from pc but the art style seems different
sudden eagle
yeah
slow delta
not quite, the pc cables have a lot more spirals than the transmission ones
raw olive
^
This door does look more polished than the pc one
And both have the central lock thing
slow delta
could be but could just be a generic model
gloomy olive
there is 90% resemblance ok
placid harness
So let's assume for a second that B-443, which has been referenced in tweets and questionable Isle lore for some time now, is the same B-443 in Primal Carnage lore known by the former's community as "Big Daddy". Did the original one survive?
placid harness
So during the original interaction with that AI, which again, may or may not still apply to the canon, it was confirmed samples were acquired from the obviously now destroyed source material. Operation Inferno's name could be a reference to literally going to hell and back from the Divine Comedy.
So our B-443 friendo was probably the progenitor of other replicants created after the interaction of this AI. Strangely, it seems the project at first had failed with initial replication, and for some reason appears to have worked this time with query from a profile. I digress, why would someone go to hell (Phoenix Corp.(?), or whatever) and back to try and get this sample? Well, its obvious they needed it in their scheme to make the perfect organism. Why though? How would material from a heavily modified maybe-tyrannosaurid achieve this? I really don't understand how it could be the perfect organism, mostly because I don't know what defines a perfect organism (or what Apollo defines it as).
These questions could call the credibility of this past lore into question but with recent events it only seems more relevant than ever. Perhaps we might not find the whole truth but we can begin here. Speaking of the truth, how could we have trusted this AI in the first place? What are the odds that it was actually the replicator tricking someone to give it access that could only be authorized by a profile?
More questions, more questions. This is a tricky game of life and death that was left behind and continues to cycle.
Wait a minute... the first attempt at creating the perfect organism? So there were more. Alright, I remember now. There was something about a "perfectly adaptable organism".
Ah yes. Matriarch. Sticking your ugly head back at us again.
Completely adaptable seems close to perfect to me. Life's hardcoded goals are to survive and to adapt to continue doing so. Something that can indefinitely, completely do this would maybe be perfect?
Assuming the Matriarch was a similar attempt at creating the perfect organism as the Magnatyrannus, B-443, Big Donny, or whatever you wanna call it, then it probably used similar methods. The Magnatyrannus could have been an early version of the Matriarch. Was it using the same material recovered from Operation Inferno? Maybe.
I just want to know why Apollo wants to make the perfect organism.
wheat osprey
Why wouldn't Apollo wish to create the perfect organism? Humanity has always strived for perfection. Creating such would be more than an extraordinary feat of engineering, it would be playing god.
ember flame
True Insanity
placid harness
I don't think you understand that people don't just create the perfect organism "for the hell of it", as you're suggesting.
Unless of course it really is just for them to bask in their own excellence.
slow delta
the lore used to state biological warfare but we've also been told thats not the case
(probably cause jp went that route)
placid harness
It's akin to that of what I call God's Mistake (or success, depending on how you see it). God creates man, something which can improve, surpass, and replace it. Man creates something that can surpass and replace himself. It could keep happening in a cycle of rebirth and destruction. Maybe it always has.
Maybe that's what they want. To complete the cycle.
To create a god.
echo gazelle
Maybe not playing God but Mother Nature? We succeed where Nature Fails.
tiny carbon
Well, I mean, humans in comparison to the dinos are fairly weak or fragile. Physically they are far superior to us. Now imagine putting a human intelligence into a much stronger/faster physical form? There seems to be a lot of emphasis on perfecting evolution by doing it themselves. What if they're trying to progress the human race through dinosaurs? Dinosaurs ruled the world at one point through physical force alone, and we are ruling it now with supreme intelligence. The combination if the two would be a "perfect" organism, definitely superior to just a dino or just a human. I think apollo is simply doing this to progress the human race in a way that waiting on evolution could never do
echo gazelle
Forced Evolution, makes sense
sinful hatch
Purity of essence and the purity of form... I have read that before on other game entirely... all the way back in 1998. It was pretty cool, we don't invest as heavily on lores anymore, that is a real shame. I hope The Isle manages to deliver on that promise.
mighty abyss
Phoenix was developing the dinosaurs as weapons, weren't they? That was the entire point behind the Novaraptors
As such, a natural extension would be using the dinosaurs as the actual soldiers
So, Apollo took the dinosaurs, forced people into them, then when those failed, they extended the dinosaurs into a further field, which is where the Hypo/Neuro/Tisso strains come in in order to more properly accommodate the human souls inside of them
meanwhile, the tribals/cannibals were the prototype experiments that Apollo was conducting on The Islands before they became aware of Phoenix and their Inferno Project
ie if humans can't take the strain of a forced evolution, why not try a hand at forcing the evolution of creatures that had literal millions of years at their helm. combine that with Phoenix's previous gene modification and it would be pretty easy
that's my theory anyway. I still don't know how the Mercenaries would fit in. Target practice? Rival corporations? Protection for scientists?
there's still a lot to learn yet
Maybe Apollo was a subsidiary or sister group to Phoenix, or a new foundation formed by the surviving members of Phoenix after Outbreak and Inferno
but that's another topic
placid harness
Accelerating ( or rather forcing as some sources put it) evolution to benefit humanity does seem like a noble cause to die for. However...
There are usually bad apples that ruin the bunch.
coarse sonnet
Is that known?
The thing about Lawrence Carter
It was on PC steam forum
I am confused because Taterfi's site says this:
slow delta
i hadn't seen that in tater's site but that's wrong
it's a big assumption he made and it's not official considering he wasn't even mentioned in operation inferno
hell he had gone missing even before that
eternal tide
eternal tide
I forgot about this pic from one of the dev streams a while back
Feel like this confirms the carnage roster will be playable in some form
hasty latch
We are already aware of the PC and TI asset mix, still interesting to see that it might be getting implemented.
eternal tide
I need to add that screen to this chart I made a while back
With novaraptor extremely likely to be utah in hindsight
And carnage dilo being “monster dilo”
Magnatyrannus being carnage rex
Actually, I’m pretty sure nova Utah from the dev stream is the same texture don posted
I’m almost certain my theory is right now.
The “nova Utah” texture above is utahs new default texture Dondi posted
Thus, utahraptor confirmed to be novaraptor
Magnatyrannus is carnage rex
And with those two we know “monster dilo” is carnage dilo via textures.
There remains 3 more animals in the primal carnage roster: spinosaurus, pteranodon, and carnotaurus which we don’t know the details of relating to their carnage designs in game
Although it’s likely pteranodon is just a normal pteranodon with carnage colors/textures
Carnage carno and spino being the biggest mystery unknown to us
But spinosaurus getting a remodel could hint to its carnage design or could be new survival spino is semi aquatic fisher spino while carnage spino is a strain like magnatyrannus
Perhaps my ramblings are being watched by higher powers, if they will it my words shall be erased for the sake of a greater good
icy onyx
@eternal tide I think Dondi said in #Isle discussion that the new Raptor skin was just a joke but he may have been joking about that too
eternal tide
I think they were, the textures are the same as the leaked nova textures
coarse sonnet
super complicated joke
eternal tide
The white stripe is showing...
mellow parrot
He did say it was a joke
icy onyx
If we don't get that new raptor pattern tough i'm gonna be pissed
open compass
Just to go back to Lawrence Carter for a sec, he was mentioned in the console interaction
So the info on tater's site isn't an assumption
eternal tide
@icy onyx we shall
It’s confirmed to be the new utah default texture
It’ll be out next patch
It’s the same texture as the one previously leaked with carnage dilo and magna textural assets
open compass
When was that confirmed?
eternal tide
Despite being said to be motivated by the ingame color system, we know the nova Utah texture is at least 2 months old
It’s getting in game implementation next patch
open compass
That’s assuming that the new textures are the same as the pc textures
Could just be newer patterns
eternal tide
They are, the new Utah texture and the nova texture 2 months back have the same white stripe that the original primal carnage nova lacked
(I wouldn’t have noticed if not for @placid harness pointing this out)
It also has the red male coloration on the pic Dondi sent and the texture
open compass
Alright, makes sense
eternal tide
I’m almost certain that the carnage dilo is indeed our monster dilo
Interestingly, he had textures so he must have a model as well
It’s just a dirty little secret
eternal tide
What if magna dilo is carnage dilo?
open compass
It’s likely either magna or tisso
eternal tide
Magna.
We know that carnage dilo is extremely likely...
And it has to be a strain
If magnatyrannus is carnage rex
Then magna dilo in theory is carnage dilo
nimble flare
Monster dilo likely refers to hypo dilo
icy onyx
I wonder how a Magna Carno would look like
eternal tide
Carnage dilo can spit in its game
I’m almost certain it’s referring to that game
And will be able to spit as well
nimble flare
Have yall seen Tapwings dilo strains? They all spit. Now tapwing is a dev
Sk its most likely on of those
So*
eternal tide
I am aware but carnage dilo has textures that are extremely likely to be for an ingame playable
eternal tide
Iirc in game carnage dilo in primal is a juvenile
In the alpha version there was an adult version
nimble flare
Hmmm
eternal tide
nimble flare
Okay then, Ill grant you that one i guess
eternal tide
Considering Utah is extremely likely to be turned into novaraptor
And magnatyrannus is primal rex
The dilo textures was grouped among them
icy onyx
That thing is fucking huge
eternal tide
So there is likely a model that exists for carnage dilo in the isle
open compass
It’s smaller than normal dilo
nimble flare
It looks like it is tbh
eternal tide
It’s about the same size as normal in game dilo
However ingame dilo has longer proportions
nimble flare
Ill need more evidence to accept that "mosnter dilo" is a carnage reference, but the rest of your theory seems solid
eternal tide
I’m pretty certain carnage dilo is in game based on the texture work
And carnage dilo can spit by extension
Based upon source material
The point of the theory isn’t to disprove other dilo strains from having this ability, the idea is that the leaked textures indicate carnage dilo is likely in game and that animal is likely to spit
nimble flare
I had another look at the texture work
And ive got to admit it is definately good evidence
Comparing it to the adult dilo pic
Very interested to see how this all plays out
eternal tide
Same
dusk axle
is more likely than instead of turning every dinosaur strain of the respective carnivore from Primal Carnage, they will be more like a hint of each memeber, IE Magatyranus has a percentage of PC rex, Magaraptor has a percentage of PC novaraptor, and so on, not only with Maga strains but others probably like Tisso or Hypo...
eternal tide
Based upon the above, utahraptor is likely being turned into nova from the textures and Dondi post
nimble flare
Not sure how I feel about that honestly, but its not my game...
eternal tide
The animal is the same animal as it is now, just a new name
And new texture that’s a big improvement
hearty mulch
Don't shove everything into strain territory as not all things acquired from Phoenix were strains
Namely novaraptor and quetz
hearty mulch
The other two things that we know were strains and were acquired from Phoenix were the Hyperendocrin Tyrannosaurus and Magnatyrannus
eternal tide
Unless it gets a new name
nimble flare
Hypo rex was acquired fro phoenix?
eternal tide
Would carnage dilo be a renamed animal or a magna?
hearty mulch
Dunno, might not exactly fit a strain and just be a weird mutant animal
nimble flare
Id assume they would lebel it as magna, since magna doesnt seem to have any strict guidelines and carnage dilo doesnt fit any of the strains
Label*
eternal tide
Very interested in seeing future developments
oak pumice
has this been posted in here yet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/548169280781287438/image0.png
coarse sonnet
yes
eternal tide
The texture is the same, white stripe and red hues from the male and all.
Soft confirmation that Utah's new name is Novaraptor
It's already pretty strong evidence Magnatyrannus is primal Rex
And Carnage Dilo is also likely to be in-game, as it has a texture next to the other two in an older stream
rich breach
Been reading this whilst at work. Some of these theories are blowing my mind
icy onyx
I doubt that is the new Utah's name is Novaraptor. But I'm pretty sure they said there would be no ties to Primal Carnage and The Isle.
But you never know things always change.
mighty abyss
On the subject of Lawrence Carter, I don't think there's going to be much in the way of him anymore outside of "he owns/owned Phoenix Corp.".
As for the Utah being a Novaraptor... no.
It's just a Utahraptor. A Novaraptor is something else. If they were to add a Novaraptor, why not... add a Novaraptor. Why reuse an already established animal
slow delta
the pc connection thing already changed
its been pretty much established that there will be a connection
nocturne cosmos
Wooo
slow delta
nobody knows to what extent and what that means for gameplay
and the lore connections are a bit all over the place
nocturne cosmos
Will still missing some of the old stuff btw?
mighty abyss
What old stuff?
nocturne cosmos
Just old stuff
cinder hound
You currently can't add blue onto it I don't think.
oak pumice
eww
cinder hound
Where was that posted?
leaden nexus
Someone posted it on an isle chat tab in another server on January 27th, Gonna have to dig a lot to find it on here
cinder hound
Who posted it?
edgy pike
Dondi
It was when the skin system was out and we were trying to see if we could make JP and Primal skins in The Isle
leaden nexus
so about pc dilo being monster dilo
granite grove
outer hull
I get how PC is cool and all but is there an exact reason why The Isle is absorbing a bunch of elements from PC? I understood the lore side but actual skins and names being used? Im not against but just wondering why the isle is bothering with PC stuff
hearty mulch
It was made for it, along with another iirc
Also because dondi hails from PC devteam
outer hull
But the isle is his own game
outer hull
Isnt that also kinda copyrighted
hearty mulch
They've made a deal
outer hull
Did he buy PC assets?
outer hull
Huh
Just seems weird to me to mush together two games that really only share dinosaurs in common
hearty mulch
An earlier deal was attempted but that fell through which is why all the "THE ISLE IS NOT CONNECTED TO PC" bits got thrown about
outer hull
But why the big effort
hearty mulch
Ask don
outer hull
I never even heard about PC before getting TI
hasty cliff
from a lore side of thigs PC ties into the isle there are 2 companies at war i believe Phoenix (somthing) in PC and Apollo engineering in the isle
and they are rival companies
echo gazelle
Yeah Meaty made that video a while ago. Phoenix Corporation is their name. In the Genesis trailer, Hermes staff is shown on a monitor screen right when the camera zooms in on B-443. That same logo is shown right when you boot up The Isle. B-443 being a designated specimen for the Magna could mean it may have an appearance in The Isle.
placid harness
For the record, "UtahNew" could also possibly just mean the latest Utahraptor model.
Not necessarily the newest pattern for the skin color system.
echo gazelle
The Rod of Asclepius? Which is the only other I can think of...Asclepius was also the son of Apollo. 
echo gazelle
It's there, ever so faintly
echo gazelle
Woah. Apollo retrieving assests from Pheonix could have been a rescue. Apollo rescuing his unborn son.
icy onyx
crisp ermine
