#isle-lore-theories
ember flame
Actually the login button is now located in the news menu
You just can't press it...
I don't know if it was there before though....
nimble cape
It probably got removed because new players got confused
and I don't think they updated the news menu to remove it if it existed in there beforehand
slow delta
Does that mean that logging in was impossible all this time we thought it was?
placid harness
I doubt they would actual give the potential to do something like that to your run of the mill Isle player.
tiny carbon
I mean, it's possible to make the button appear to certain people, as we see with their developer-only mode and what it can do on any server, however making the button suddenly appear on the console instead of just cracking it up like it is on the news screen kinda breaks the theme that they seem to be having here
past trench
If I’m honest I don’t think the login button was actually working as such as they wanted it too so they probably removed it for now and they are waiting until more content becomes live before they re-implement it
ember flame
What if when you log in, you just log into Apollo?
wanton ocean
This doesn't look like your average "rock"...
wanton ocean
Found that up the river that's between the two lakes closest to the volcano
in Thenyaw
the water also sounds a little goopier than normal
🤔
sorry about the quality and shortness, i had to cut out most of it because of the video size limit (I don't have Nitro at the moment)
I could swear I'm sure I've seen some skull-like shapes in that mound too
gilded obsidian
part of the rock we see in thumbnail kinda look like a dino's head, theres even a spherical rock as the eye
icy onyx
is that poop or a fossil bed
i think maybe lava flowed over these creatures killing them of incasing them
wanton ocean
Wouldn't there be more of that rock around the area though? @icy onyx This is the only spot around the area that looks like this, i searched around.
wanton ocean
erosion wouldn't make this shape
and the parts that look like bones are discolored from the rest of the rock
hearty mulch
can and has
wanton ocean
I haven't found anything else that looks like this, why would this rock look so strange?
hearty mulch
wanton ocean
Yes but this "rock" is completely different from that
what i posted doesn't do it enough justice
the texture is inconsistant
icy onyx
@wanton ocean maybe soil has filled up the rest a of the rock and the river removed the soil from that piece of rock
wanton ocean
Do these look like mineral deposits to you?
hearty mulch
Yes
Because they are nodules
Mineral center covered by more mineral
the streaks might not be deposits, but the bulbous nodules probably are. But that's more sculpt detail than ingame mechanics
grizzled mica
That one part of it looks like this volcanic rock
buoyant heart
hmm
wanton ocean
yeah that makes sense, I still think some of the other shapes like the streaks could be from bones though
hearty mulch
buoyant heart
e3e
wanton ocean
It's still kind of curious that this is the only spot to find it though, no traces of it elsewhere
hearty mulch
Nodules can also be different colors. Mostly mentioning it because I'm getting caught up in rock funsies
jagged gate
Sorta reminds me of this
placid harness
I wonder how old that tunnel entrance is.
outer dagger
where did you go cotton eye joe
placid harness
Well there are some particularly surprising geometric shapes at the near peak of the frame.
buoyant heart
Hmm
paper herald
I always thought that was some lair for those blind bois
grizzled dune
Judging by the statement that was posted alongside the image: "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.",that gate is The isle's take on Dante's Inferno's Gates of Hell.
It could be just a fun reference,but if it was deliberately said,then we could look deeper in Dante's Inferno or perhaps Greek Underworld.
placid harness
If we look at the inferno reference from a basic level we could deduce that it gets worse and worse as you go deeper.
Maybe it's a gate to Tartarus.
icy onyx
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i think this means that the magnaraptor and maybe magnatyrannus are gonna be worked on or even redone
buoyant heart
sweet zephyr
My bet would be that magnas are either the finished product or part of the ''nova neo magna'' line
so there might be a NOVA something or NEO something
tiny carbon
So, sorry @hearty mulch , but I'm going to go with @wanton ocean and say that these are something else other than just normal rock for this reason: None of the other rocks anywhere else in the map look like that as far as I'm aware. Usually when you see deposits of rock like that, it's generally for the area, not just one little spot like that one is.
I'm not saying that there should be more of those kinds of rocks right around that pile, I'm saying that there would probably be more similar rocks near the other rivers, or even further along down that river if it were only a mineral deposit.
Speaking of weird rocks also, there was one river opening that looked like it had squared-off cinderblocks in the rubble around it, though I didn't think to get a screenshot. Could be/probably is related
viscid saddle
@icy onyx If you're not contributing don't speak.
icy onyx
i feel that you are going to deep into this and they are simply just assets used to form a rock formation
buoyant heart
shut
viscid saddle
I don't know if it's lore-related or just an asset. All I can really tell you is that it probably isn't lava rock and full of fossils. Lava tends to burn up things it touches, and I can't imagine anything organic surviving temperatures like that
silver current
seems like some kind of spino for me
viscid saddle
That's something like I was expecting tbh
hearty mulch
If it was anything special, it would be a lot more defined
viscid saddle
If anything like rock assets are going to be important to lore they'll be custom-made and it should be pretty obvious. At least IMO
hearty mulch
It would be more obvious than streaks and bulbousness in a rock
Think I might be wrong on the particular set, probably used this https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ancient-cavern-set-i
One of the two, the style is obvious
fresh rivet
Has anyone found the paintings Dondi teased? They’re supposedly in game already
buoyant heart
so far no
regal sundial
Pretty sure from that image that was shown on stream
Ages ago
And all the like, hell and hades references
That gateway is probably leading into the area with those ribs
Because I think the image mentioned it was a sectioned off area for strain containment?
That art definitely LOOKS like the cave leading into there from the beach, just with a horrific bone altar
icy onyx
looks like it's that set, Cona
summer helm
something always bothers me
but on the character screen, you see the DNA strand. half way down it, is a solid gold bar,
Above that bar, the DNA is flawless
it begins fracturing below that bar
whats that all about
carmine marsh
that has something todo with the affinity system @summer helm
that will be the um.. affinity bar? i guess you would call it bar
summer helm
hmm
outer dagger
feel like the top would have good affinity traits while the bottom would have the worst
summer helm
Its just strange to me
to me, it's as if....the DNA is fragmentary and incomplete
As if to indicate that its meant to change once you became a strain
placid harness
Were the original strains, hyperendocrin, neurotenic, and tissoplastic supposed to represent reptilian, cephalopod, and mammalian traits, respectively?
gloomy wave
How would tisso represent mammalian trait though? Even basing from the older, not correct concept ?
tribal trench
Doesn't tisso have fur? The old one atleast.
regal sundial
It had like, poison quills
static crater
more like feathers
the tisso reaper likely only had hair as a result of a human being the base genome
gilded salmon
I keep getting Tisso and Neuro confused lol
placid harness
Tisso had quills and fur with the old reaper
Maybe not fur... but some sort of fuzz.
It also had everyone's favorite satellite dish mammalian ears
ember flame
I thought the tisso's skin was inspired by octopus skin
tiny carbon
Well, really just the ability to quickly blend colors to match with the surrounding areas. Not exclusive to octopi, as there's chameleons and other animals as well
ember flame
Chameleons don't use there camouflage to blend in with the background, their colors change if there happy, sad, hungry, curious, or scared.
But I get what your saying Auxiar
Octopus are the masters of stealth, they can blend into surfaces by changing there skin to match the surface they are on, there skin will even change to look more dusty or sandy depending on the surface.
tiny carbon
Yeah by ability I meant changing skin colors in general you right
oak pumice
headcanon that the "cannibals" are some kind of mutated humans, so them eating regular humans would actually be "cannibalism"
maybe they're humans that got into the big hyperendocrine trees
eager chasm
Isn't it kind of implied from the transmissions that it took a few generations for the tribals to be like that though?
meager geode
No clue whether or not it's anything of relevence, but there are flashing lights on the server list screen in the bottom left, they flash abnormally, was wondering if it's in a language of different sorts (?)
tribal trench
We've tried a few iirc.
hasty latch
Good ole Morse code has failed me
Can anyone be arsed to look through all the binary at the side of the loading screen? I know I cant
twin vale
think you guys are a little late to the party? check the pinned stuff.
neon stag
lol
slow delta
I wonder when the new wave of lore hints will be so we can continue digging up
icy onyx
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
DUE TO SIZE ISSUES OF NEWEST TYPE-M SPECIMENS, ALL FURTHER AQUATIC BIOLOGICAL STUDIES WILL MOVED TO ATRIUM B (POD 4) UNTIL THE BAY LOCKE IS FINISHED DEVELOPMENT. REPORT ALL ENDURANCE TIMINGS TO DR. (10 LETTERS).
👀
Aquatic type-M ?
tribal trench
Magna spino?
hasty latch
Aquatic is a word I would use for a marine reptile, not a semi amphibious dinosaur.
outer mauve
Or just mosasaur
mellow parrot
Actually, I remember dondi showing him off like 2 months ago. And that they need to remake his skin or somethingbut this is for another time As for the aquatic movement, it could be for a magna spino, but as far as we know, there is only magna tyrannosaurus
static crater
it could be magna giga too
there's no reason to think it might be a magna spino considering this game's spino is a big fat terrestrial powerhouse
autumn kestrel
Ok so basically the Morse code also shows that they’re adding a h quetz?
static crater
at what point did the morse code say "hypo quetz will be playable"
mentioning =/= confirming for gameplay
tribal trench
@mellow parrot don't forget magnaraptor.
static crater
rumor has it magnaraptor was scrapped
sweet zephyr
Rumor has it that rumors are a bad place to get your information from.
warped coral
🤔
hasty latch
Ye be warned.
cinder atlas
The first warning is in the channel description.
ripe hare
Ah, my bad. Thank you for the help!
tiny carbon
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if the devs have been working on the magnaraptor silently. We barely know about the magna rex, and only just got all of the hypos revealed. They looked like they started the neuros, and we haven't seen anything about tisso yet. Frankly I hope they have what they want out of all these creatures done and are just waiting on the time to make then ingame and release them. And I'm curious about how the magnaraptor will stand against all the other strains.
gilded salmon
Magna is just boneless hypo from what I've seen
What's the difference between Hypo and Magna anyway?
sharp nymph
outer mauve
Magna is stronger from what I’ve heard
river marsh
Might be safe to assume Hypo is prototype magna. But that's just my view of it.
shut remnant
we don't know much about them yet, I believe the general consensus is a better version of hypo with them not having insane hunger needs?
hasty latch
From what I know, the Magna are designed to counter the Hypos.
icy onyx
Hyper dies of hunger easily while the magna is meant to be more manageable I believe
hasty latch
Improved version basically
icy onyx
I would imagine if they want to 1v1 they will both die. But magna have managable food and you dont need to constantly hunt. Hypo is in my mind is like pure destruction. Constant hunting and destroying.
static crater
magnas don't 'counter' hypos
they're just slightly weaker in terms of combat with improved survivability to go along with it
gloomy wave
Actually we don't know if they're weakers, better or anything
icy onyx
why dont hey show us the new tisso concepts if i see them i can die peacefully
tribal trench
Because they don't want you to die peacefully.
hasty latch
Aren't Tisso a conceptual strain?
tribal trench
...no.
static crater
@gloomy wave Dondi said himself that hypos would win in a battle with magnas most of the time
but there is a chance of magnas winning
gloomy wave
foggy kindle
Magnas are built to last while hypos aren't. Didn't Dondi confirm that strains would basically only be playable for several hours before forcibly dying off due to unmanageable hunger and etc., while magnas will stay alive until they're pretty much killed off? Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
static crater
by strains you mean hypos*
foggy kindle
hypos, yeah. I think he implied the same for tissos and neuros too though? That they won't have the hunger weakness, but that they'll have something else that'll guarantee them having a short lifespan.
but knowing my shitty memory, I'm probably wrong though.
static crater
i dont remember hearing anything like that
neuros are just incredibly physically weak
like a couple bites from an allo could kill a neuro spino
foggy kindle
yeah I remember the physical weakness comments.
static crater
tissos are getting reworked so 🤷
foggy kindle
Maybe my mind just assumed he's going to do the same with the other two strains since he did confirm that strains have the power to wipe servers and stuff.
yeah, I wonder what the new tisso's gonna be like.
I wonder if they'll still have the camo stuff going for them for one thing.
static crater
the old tissos were so cool
ninjasauruses
best hunters in the game
and not really capable of wiping servers to the extent of hypos
foggy kindle
yeah, seemed like a neat concept. I wonder if they decided to rework it because the feared that invisibility would be too broken for mega packs and the like.
would be too easy for cancer groups and packs to get intel on the enemy or something
eh, who knows
static crater
i think it would be better to make your dinosaur camouflage spontaneously
not really cloak, but turn dark green/brown with splotched all over it
to hide in bushes
that kinda stuff
a 'cloak' would be stupid op
foggy kindle
it's probably a stretch, but I've kinda wondered if tissos are going to be replaced by that fan-concept strain that Tapwing designed a while back, before she was hired on the dev team.
some kind of nanomachine-infected strain or something? Or weird cyborg dinos or something like that.
static crater
cyborg dinos sounds dumb
foggy kindle
meh, I've just wondered if it's a possibility since she's part of the dev team now and all.
foggy kindle
yeah, same really. Just kinda speculating though
sneaky tisso boy fits in well with the neuro and the hypo. If they're added in then we're getting a dino version of the rogue/paladin/mage trinity deal lol
tiny carbon
I have to wonder, will strains be able to still communicate with their own species? Hypo Utahs with other utahs, Tisso carnos with regular carnos? I'm pretty sure that Neuros were said to be able to speak with everything (even humans?), so really I'm just wondering about the other two. I don't think that currently the hypos can speak to others of their species, but it would be pretty neat if the tissos could. As I understand it, it sounds a lot like the indominus with its abilities. No not trying to tie it directly to JP, but the last concept we heard about it had those quills, could change skin-color to hide and etc... The indom could also speak with the raptors thanks to intelligence, and they were all working together. That would be pretty fuckin cool as someone who's a tisso to get together with a pack of your same species in a sort of you-help-me-help-you kind of relationship.
clear fable
That would be cool ! Hypo brutal and dumb can't speak with anyone (even others hypos ?), tissos are a bit better and can speak with their own species (plus every other tissos ?) and neuros can speak to everyone
raw olive
Weren't Hypers (maybe only Utah) supposed to be smarter than regular bois?
Thought I heard that somewhere
tribal trench
yes, they are.
@clear fable hypos are better at everything, only thing they aren't better at is hunger management
clear fable
Even smarter ?
tribal trench
yes
clear fable
Oh
tribal trench
atleast hypo utah has been mentioned to be smart enough to open doors.
clear fable
I've always tought they would be dumb killing machines
Will they be stronger than a neuro or a tisso ?
tribal trench
stronger physically yes
intellectually we don't know whether tisso is smarter than hypo, neuro is 99% smarter than hypo and tisso
im not mentioning magna because magna is a wild card
(so is tisso since its getting reworked.)
clear fable
Maybe tissos could be more vicious
Like using spikes, poison...
While hypos are just damn strong
sterile stone
My cat can open doors so she must be pretty smart
Smarter than a utah
clear fable
That's à good point
sterile stone
She just use her powers for evil like when I'm in the bathroom
hasty latch
On the dossiers it says Utahraptor can't get inside houses due to size issues, and as Hypo are bigger I'm guessing the same thing goes for the H.utah
tribal trench
a dev mentioned hypo utahs can open doors, though.
clear fable
That's an other good point
muted steppe
Remember that the dossiers are outdated.
clear fable
I wonder what could kill an hypo
sterile stone
Utah and Dakota are about the same size
Utah does have short ass arms for a raptor but I don't think that would keep out out of buildings
tribal trench
or they are bigger doors than usual 🙃
clear fable
If devs said it, they still can change their minds if they decide that they are dumb
Hypos I mean
tribal trench
yes but would you rather believe what a dev said or doubt what a dev said and think they mustve changed their minds?
clear fable
You re right
sterile stone
Hypos are ment to be murdering beast that starve out cuz they constantly need food
The best thing to do if a hypo is on is to hide
clear fable
But I think we'll have to wait a bit before having uthas opening doors in the game so anyway everything is probably gonna be really different that what we guessed
sterile stone
Opening doors is all fun n junk
But ummm what about that pounce?
clear fable
Strains gonna be a thing but right now I think they are more focused on regular dinosaurs and their mechanics (like pounce)
I could be wrong though
sterile stone
Strains probably won't be out til the game is done. I imagine they have a lot to do with this story that we know nothing about
raw olive
Hypo Utah won't need pounce
sterile stone
I just want pounce for normal utah
But pounce won't be out til the combat overhaul is done probably
clear fable
Yup
drifting night
sadly enough
they shouldve just finished the utah pounce
i mean it was in why not just implement it?
They "finish" stuff but don't actually finish it
and imlement it
implement*
don't get it
clear fable
Utha will pounce
sterile stone
It was buggy due to the older models being made wonky. Old Utah can pounce on some stuff but it was glitchy
hasty latch
Need to fix the things it's pouncing first basically.
drifting night
Yes why not just finish that so it's out of the way?
hasty latch
Small crew, lots to do.
drifting night
pounce worked pretty good on shants
sterile stone
Cuz it didn't work with the models
drifting night
if they could pretty much finish old utah pounce they could just finish it now couldn't they?
hasty latch
The newer pounce is for smaller creatures I'm pretty sure. Like people.
drifting night
some things I just don't get
sterile stone
Something with how they were rigged and coded made them stop working on the old Utah pounce
hasty latch
you all have to keep in mind this is early access.
clear fable
Devs are actually working on new dinos and combat overhaul (I think). The special abilities are probably not in their priorities
hasty latch
Big big list
sterile stone
Yeah, but I can still hope it comes out with the combat overhaul
sterile stone
Maybe or that it close to being done
I know the skin maker thing is done and is coming next patch
sterile stone
It was done last patch but they didn't want to add it yet 🤷
clear fable
They probably didn't want to have too much bugs to fix
hasty latch
Snazzy things!
sterile stone
I try to watch all the dev streams lol
hasty latch
I just don't have the time to sit down for 3 hours
Still in can gather the info from you guys
clear fable
I just watch clips
sterile stone
works at home and has the time
hasty latch
Mocks and an actual life
sterile stone
Dondi mostly streams super late at night or early in the morning
clear fable
It depends on where you live :3
sterile stone
True 
supple dome
clear fable
True
crisp ermine
what do you guys think the strain plant wil be like (those will be a thing right)
livid snow
Yeah, assuming they haven’t changed their minds recently it is a thing. I imagine herbs will fall prey to them way more then humans and carnivores. Of course, there could be ways for a carnivore to be lured into it as well.
regal sundial
Smells like ribs, go up to the bush to investigate, get scrombled
Aren't there flowers that attract flies with the scent of rotting meat or something along those lines irl?
livid snow
There are actually, not to mention the pitcher plant who has nectar that attract a variety of insects only for them to fall in. Heck even birds and frogs have been known to be captured. It would be interesting to see a dino who benefits from such a plant while also being in danger still of course
hasty latch
So you mean, the ability to get your dinosaur high for specific buffs?
icy onyx
so steroids?
hasty latch
Sounds fun!
meager geode
Or maybe the plant will vaporize you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
OR GIVE YOU VAPORIZING POWERS
Idk, he mentioned buffs and i thought just a faster rex would be boring- vaporizing dryo sounds fucking epic.
hasty latch
Vaporising in and out of reality!
cinder atlas
Reminder to read the channel description.
icy meteor
There will be human in the future?
nimble flare
yea
icy meteor
Rip i cant even play the game
feral pond
This is not the channel for that. @icy meteor
slow delta
I don't remember well but when it comes to the lore, is it specified that there are multiple islands aside from vague site names?
Cause I feel like all of us have taken for granted that multiple islands exist
But looking back it's not as concrete as we thought
hasty latch
Well, site names might not just be specified Islands. It could all be one island. It is The Isle. Not The Isles.
icy onyx
Well maybe Thenyaw is a smaller island that is nearby v3 making them the side island
hasty latch
We don't actually see the whole of Thenyaw, just a small section of it.
regal sundial
It is kind of a square shaped costal area boxed in by cliffs
tiny carbon
But the entirety of V3 is an island, not a section, and I dont think we've seen any Thenyaw-like parts of V3, so they have to be separate land masses dont they?
icy onyx
Also i don't think it's a section of thenyaw it's the hole of thenyaw as soon as you go over those mountain's you'll see nothing but see
icy onyx
Yeah thenyaw has nothing to do with the lore
meager birch
If it is at all canon it might be a testing place for the new strands or normal dinos before they're put into tarturus or another island
Doubt it tho xD
hasty latch
V3 is something we need to be studying in more detail.
hasty latch
I know this isn't THE ISLAND. But it is A ISLAND.
meager birch
Yea
So if it is canon
Then there is something there
I forget if it was on that island but didin't a nuero spino pop up?
hasty latch
On dev servers everything tends to pop up
meager birch
Yea ture
true*
That might be another way to confirm that those islands are an area to place a strand and see how it reacts with other dinos
Or im just looking way too deep into this
hasty latch
I believe it's talking about the electromagnetic abilities from the Nuerospino on AE 012
meager birch
Most likely
wouldn't it have also somewhat affected the wind speed?
Since the spino can change the wheather
hasty latch
Yeah, storms and precipitation level are nominal
meager birch
Since the spino can change the wheather
hasty latch
Yet a storm would change both
meager birch
That makes me think it wasn't the spino
But another nuero we haven't seen
Or something else
Since its solely seismic
hasty latch
Seismic activity, that's a volcano
hasty latch
Wait, can seismic be earthquakes?
meager birch
Yea
Earthquakes are detected by seismic activity
but
that would be higher threat than problem
if its problem maybe its something the system knows how to deal with
an earthquake would be across the board
hasty latch
It seems the "system" is operational. Obviously because it's blurting out info. But doesn't really seem to be doing anything.
meager birch
Yea
If it was an earthquake the system would probably be sending constant warnings or something of the sort
So what im thinking is its something really fucking big walking around
I remember talk of creatures that could walk between islands
But i dont know if that was deemed noncanon
hasty latch
In game, I don't see any signs of earthquakes on any maps. So AE-012 must be quite far away from the rest of the islands.
meager birch
Definitely
So i have no clue what could be over there
the colossus is in tarturus
i believe the matriarch is aswell
hasty latch
Isn't AE-012 the Hypo breeding facility?
meager birch
so it might be something isolated in AE-012
Yea
But what hypo is that big? other than the colossus
meager birch
OOooo
HMm
Matriarch???
I believe in the file it said the matriarch was attracted to spinosauride
hasty latch
We need to look at some stuff on the matriarch, see what it's size limits are.
meager birch
Yea
Apparently it would grow to be bigger or as big as the colossus
if thats the case then
hasty latch
Alright time to go Internet surfing, you might as well too. See what we can find.
meager birch
Yea
I believe ae-012 was released with the allo
So
idk xD
Lemme look up some stuff on the matriarch
hasty latch
Got anything, I can't seem to find any trace of it in the Isle Wiki
hasty latch
Mhm, could it be non canon?
meager birch
the vid is from meaty so it has some credibility i believe
Doubt it
When i believe chance logged in he asked about the matriarch
and the AI responded
hasty latch
I mean, I know tapwing is now a developer but still. Not all of it is real.
meager birch
Yea
hasty latch
Things are changing alot with this game, it may have just been scrapped.
meager birch
Ture
true*
Only time will tell
But thats really the only thing i can remember that could cause seismic activity that wouldnt make the computer flip its shit
hasty latch
Well, it might have done. The computer could be 100% flipped right now.
meager birch
yea
and since it reads as "Problem" Its probably something new
Seeing as the computer isn't freaking out
If it was an earthquake or volcano the computer would know
hasty latch
Problem, that term isn't really specified. So it might not have a solution.
hasty latch
We may be over thinking this. It could just be alot of earthquakes.
hasty latch
That's one of the main reasons I got the isle, anyway back to theorizing
meager birch
xD
Yea
So my logic is
the nuero spino can change the wheather
can emit emps
so
Its not impossible for something to be able to manipulate seismic activity
meager birch
Hmmmm
Whos allowed on AE-012 tho
And or whos allowed to fuck with it
But wouldn't the computer know if it was staff fucking with the island
hasty latch
Nobody said they were allowed. The Replicator makes out to be a god, a shrine or a machine. A machine that can, well, replicate has gotta be worth alot of money.
meager birch
True...
Hmmmmm
Still
Wait hmmm that could be why it was classified as "Problem"
hasty latch
Lots of things can be classified as problematic.
Wouldn't it be nice if a developer could tell us if we were on the right track!
hasty latch
THAT'S AIMED AT ALL THEM DEVELOPER PEOPLE
meager birch
yea
hasty latch
-_-
meager birch
My thinking is "Problem" is something the computer knows about but can't currently fix
Is it possible if someone was trying too steal the replicator they would cause something to distract the computer? xD
hasty latch
Yeah, either it's an extreme problem, or the computers broken/ requires human input.
meager birch
Well then again its a computer it doesn't have a single outlook
Yea
Or maybe it was to distract other staff
But the replicator isn't a small device atleast i dont think
that shits probably heavy as hell
hasty latch
Well, I feel that's all the theorizing I can do for this evening
meager birch
Roger that xD
hasty latch
I can't handle anything heavy right now
meager birch
Boooooooo
hasty latch
Next time, I'll need to prepare myself, cya.
fossil lily
I am waiting for V3 to be added back then I can get to searching that for new lore stuff
meager birch
Yea
icy onyx
Ye
hasty latch
Ye
slow delta
Same
hasty latch
My friends, we have some work to do.
neon stag
yeah
hasty latch
It's a thing.
placid laurel
Primal Carnage. Think he got those rights?
quartz sundial
@cinder hound ur time to shine
placid laurel
Thats the only carnage i can think of Dondi feels he failed with.
cinder hound
I mean.
Primal Carnage Rex is identical to Magnatyrannus, Previous Transmission livestreams literallly say "Novaraptor"
quartz sundial
plus dondi wanted to rename utah
cinder hound
There's mentions of Alphie, B-443 which is a number code seen in the Primal Carnage Genesis trailer.
placid laurel
Look in transmissions.
supple dome
Like years ago
cinder hound
@supple dome #transmissions
supple dome
Already saw
grave slate
its more complicated than "debunked"
placid laurel
It was because he didnt own any of the primal carnage rights. He couldnt use it. He wanted to.
cinder hound
This is probably going to be a controversial opinion, but I genuinely believe that all Magna stuff we've seen has always been connected to PC, and the distancing was the result of some complication in accquiring the rights.
blissful plume
"Four years ago I made a promise to a playerbase that wasn't my own"
icy onyx
Primal carnage player base maybe
supple dome
I'm expecting a stream soon
outer hull
Idk dondi likes leaving us wondering
pastel path
Why a hardrive though
neon stag
we gotta be patient. thats all we can do
icy onyx
They said they would tell us more about the stuff they are working on this may be a hint for a coming update that will have magna Rex and Mercs but who know
neon stag
all we know is its gonna be a big holiday patch
pastel path
I don’t expect the patch to reveal any of this. But that’s me
I don’t know what’s going on behind doors
neon stag
i dont know whats going on with dondi
warped coral
so, presuming thats what this is, what does a PC/Isle being the same universe actually mean for the game outside of some connecting lore fluff?
neon stag
~tribals~
pastel path
Maybe the mercenaries are working against the mercs in primal carnage as they work for two different companies
Maybe this is somehow connecting their lores together
supple dome
Not really...
supple dome
Could literally mean they now have the rights to use assets
severe lark
That or Pheonix Corp, or whatever it was called are direct competitors for AE now that Pc could be apart of The Isle
outer hull
Fli dino commence
neon stag
i think its way bigger than just what we think
hearty mulch
Yay operation inferno
outer hull
A Phoenix/AE rivalry would be really cool
hearty mulch
Except for the explicit references and now don is about to do something primal carnage related
blissful plume
"Four years ago I made a promise to a playerbase that wasn't my own"
coarse sonnet
What promise?
warped coral
make a good game kappa123
outer hull
Damn
warped coral
well joke aside, what became of PC was a waste lets be real
it could have been much more
severe lark
Indeed
outer hull
Im seeing some cool as shit similarities to RED v BLU
warped coral
remember don has discussed this on stream before, about approaching the top bois over at PC to try and get the open survival world idea set in PC when he worked there
they turned him down and then he went off and the idea became the isle
so its came full circle
hearty mulch
Does that possibly mean
New magnarex roars that incorporate the most godly videogame dino roar of all time?
warped coral
I would say, highly likely
I wouldnt be surprised if parts of V3 are set pieces from PC either
so like the actual maps like compound, the docks etc are actually parts of the bigger map
but who knows
i think that would be neat though
carmine marsh
carnage is coming
coarse sonnet
CCH
outer hull
Tin foil hat activated
severe lark
Sick him Cletus
fossil lily
I think its about time I boot up The Isle after taking a break from it for a few months for idk why
pastel path
Ooo
By the way guys they just updated the store page today
I don’t think that has anything to do with this, but it’s strange how it happens right when the transmission appears
icy onyx
It has been updated for days dude
pastel path
U lying
icy onyx
No
Like the steam page for the isle has been updated for serveral days way before this transmission
fresh rivet
the store was updated, but the video hasn't. Funnily, the water looked better before
scarlet remnant
If you mean the new pictures, then yes thats been there for a few days.
jagged gate
Well I’m lost
blissful plume
I feel as tho he just got the best news for the game, I expect more info 
carmine marsh
i'm pretty sure the best news for the game was back when he made that deal he was tryng to make for years
feral pond
Reminder that this channel is for strictly discussing lore. Discussing lore bridging TI with the PC universes is fine, but tangent conversation should remain in #401464048610312195
proper steppe
CCH was Carnage Comes Home, wasn't it?
proper steppe
We only figured out comes
Carnage Comes Home fits the 7 5 4 code too
Seems very likely
grizzled dune
Lemme grab the thing
fossil lily
Very likely he could have changed it since then
grizzled dune
"[ When asked about the following question:
"Did you ever confirm that the middle word is comes?"]
No.No.How fucking stupid are you all?How many times do i have to say Chaos before someone figures it out that the second word is chaos?
"Teh wohle puprpoes of teh mezzage r caohs.gUyS iT's cOmEs reEeEeEeEeE""
grave slate
i remember someone mentioned Control Chaos HMNT
dawn crescent
Ha, turns out I may be deficient in HMNT and/or DAO...makes me and my family ultra sensitive to seemingly everyday things....didn’t expect to see it referenced in a game.
tiny carbon
With carnage coming, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the (not) cannibals. They're supposed to be deadly-efficient killers in their own right. Either that, or we may be getting some previews officially of strain flora. Or maybe the islands in general are just going to get harder to survive in as things that actively seek to kill you apart from starvation and dehydration start to come around.
nimble flare
Something like that or possibly an Isle/ Primal Carnage merger.
slow delta
Oh so now pce can become canon but when we theorised about it we were shot down
🤔
Nevertheless im glad we might get to see hyper alfie
grizzled mica
What does the transmission mean?
proper steppe
Dondi probably struck out a deal with the Primal Carnage people.
tribal trench
Or he bought them epic style
open tusk
All dinosauros are robots.
Done
feral pond
Next person not adhering to the channel description is getting a nice kick.
Cleaning up the clutter.
tiny carbon
Actually dark, no one really mentioned this, but the old original isle logo has the hypo rex with a red glowing eye, indication some time of either magic or machinery, and I'm betting on the latter
Type*
hasty latch
That is a good point actually, robot rex would make sense. Yet how come when it dies you still get gore?
fossil lily
The eyes could just be for a the artwork facts. But you never know.
summer helm
Not so much a lore thing, but does anyone know what Dondi meant in his tweet
summer helm
Not really
I dont exactly want Primal Carnage to become the Isle, or vice versa
Care to explain?
warped coral
theres a decent video that explains it, but its kinda meme-y
but here it is anyway
severe lark
Good old Jaffad
Anywho, Basically PC will most likely be adapted into the lore like the Don always wanted
Phoenix Corp, etc
Genesis
round moat
Lol love that little video with don trying to debunk this.. we will see precious, we will seeeeee 🥇
severe lark
If anything dino related comes to isle from Carnage
It'll most likely be redone
if it comes
hearty mulch
Already have their rex
uneven pewter
fossil lily
I cant wait till me and Hellshade can bring the Isle Google doc we made back
pastel path
Pls do
meager birch
Ah shit I missed so much theorizing
radiant tiger
The isle takes place somewhere in the north during the future. This would explain the aurora but also explains the snow. Perhaps the reason humans are recreating dinos is to start evolution back to where it began. Most humans are now gone and the survivors are trying to reevolve humans. Or they just got bored and wanted a dino army.
meager birch
Nope
the dinos are made by apollo engineering? (Might be pheonix corporation) with a replicator i believe and then tested on the various islands
ember flame
What if there will be two factions of mercs?
fresh rivet
if mercs play the same as dinosaurs, you'll be able to team up with whoever you want and take control of different areas and likely fight other people, only way to know who's a friend or foe is if you have name tags activated
ember flame
prob
meager birch
Maybe maybe not
I believe pheonix corporation destroyed two facilities in an operation which were avian and aquatic respectively so they're might be different teams
Or
Maybe mercs will have a set task upon spawn
Perhaps to kill Dino's and take dna
Or take data from the various ruined facilities
Who knows
Just a theory
slow delta
There could be multiple groups of mercenaries send by rival companies too
It doesnt make much sense for apollo to want to make super creatures and then send mercs to butcher em
But ofc we dont know exactly what transpires so
icy onyx
maybe the mercenaries where sent to test the combat readyniess of the dinosaurs
slow delta
Maybe but I don't think this is the case since the dinos are not created for military use but rather as a forced Evolution experiment
It's not like the only important thing about the dinosaurs is their strength but also their unique abilities which cannot be judged by sending mercenaries to fight the dinosaurs
meager birch
Idk the ins and outs of each corporation but i do know that they both have the means to replicate prehistoric creatures aswell the means to modify dna to a tee so it would make sense for another company to send mercs to kill lets say a tisso or hypo to get the dna and deconstruct it for examination
hasty latch
I dont like the robot idea, they seem organic. Dont know if i can state 100% organic material in an asset. but the majority at least.
crisp moon
So here’s what I think so far we know is there is two companies fighting for Dino Dna strains Apollo and Phoenix what we know is the isle is ethier located in the northern most part of the world or somewhere south what we also know is the isle is a dinosaurs genetic engineering facility based on the military engineering of the dinosaurs strains and DNA modifications we also know there are mercy on the isle From the Apollo company and that they might have been sent to deal with the capture of there escaped military engineered dinosaurs the tisso and the hypo etc
However I believe the reason why they are there is actually to stop Phoenix from capturing the isle and also to deal with the threat of the mutants we once called cannibals and there escaping Dino weapons
As for why even make a dinosaurs engineering facility maybe they are at war with another nation and they are making a weapon to destroy it no doubt else why make dinosaurs into weapons
My main belief is all current dinosaurs on the isle are mere test subjects to see which is greater at survival and the one that is gets engineered into a weapon aka hypo etc
As far as theories go it’s all quite crazy and interesting the isle is however the sheer amount of theories are left to imagination
I’m quite sure that with more things added to the isle there will be more theories
amber fox
fossil lily
@slow delta WE GONNA HAVE TO UPDATE THE GOOGLE DOC
buoyant heart
👀
regal sundial
There's also a definite image with text in that topleft portion
With what appears to be a person to the left of the text
copper moat
My imagination sees a darth vader head
regal sundial
Looks like someone with a short haircut in a dark suit sitting at a table or desk with their fingers bridged
to me
icy onyx
Dont know if this helps at all bit i believe i found the word "action" in the AE symbol
buoyant heart
omg you fuck
abstract drum
?
amber fox
i only see cat and gat
regal sundial
Yeah pretty much every instance of genetic code has had seemingly random words seemingly randomly placed
Not new news
dim cloak
anyone have any luck translating the binary because i didnt
narrow crane
i tried translating but i failed xD
icy onyx
Could swear i saw that somewhere.
icy onyx
I know but thats just one spot
foggy kindle
I'm gonna go with, uuhhhh....
it's a lore document
you find through your playthrough?
pulsar knot
Trying to write this binary down is killing my eyes
foggy kindle
You collect data discs or some shit? IDK.
icy onyx
I nean its talking about a "recovery mission in progress"
supple dome
I think it's a screen for file recovery when you access a terminal in game as a person
icy onyx
What are thsy recovering?
narrow crane
im pretty sure you can put the parts of the pic together again, its just distorted
but my photoshop skills are below 0
dim cloak
icy onyx
I seae theres an A in there as well
dim cloak
ISH A B?
narrow crane
it looks like a long shaped skull
icy onyx
Backwards lettering?
foggy kindle
when I look at that part of the image, I see a dude typing on his keyboard, to the left.
wearing an AE Shirt
lel
narrow crane
i see some white sht mixed with black and blue sht
foggy kindle
actually scratch that, it sounds so stupid.
icy onyx
Again, if it has to do with lore, then im sure the "rocoveey mission in progress" has to mean something.. maybe they are recovering the skull seen in the distorted photo?
narrow crane
its looks like a skull (the white part of the pic) but i guess thats what my mind wants to see
regal sundial
The binary I'm pretty sure is just random numbers and doesn't actually translate to anything
foggy kindle
he said it wasn't any kind of loading screen or menu screen, right?
narrow crane
he laughted at people saying its a loading screen
icy onyx
He said we think its a loading screen.
narrow crane
thoe wave things below the picture look like somethin geographical or not?
foggy kindle
I'm still going with collectable data disks, based on the bottom left side of the image, above the font. Looks like a series of filed data disks that you can access.
dim cloak
does anyone remember what the billboard sign on primal carnage's dock's map looked like?
the "for a better tomorrow" with a girl holding a compy?
vernal vine
Yeah, this is what I got from the binary. Not sure if I typed it wrong but it might just not mean anything
quartz sundial
i typed out the binary, might be a mistake or a few tho lel 101 10001 1001 1001 101 10001 101 10001 101 11001 1001 1001 1011 1001 1001 1001 101 10001 101 10001 101 1 1001 10101001 101 10010
o
icy onyx
The binary seems to be nothing.
vernal vine
Whoops lol
dim cloak
type it backwards
pulsar knot
Im not getting anything from the binary either
and Ive stared and double checked it 3 times
narrow crane
9 5 149 5 17 5 17 5 4 9 13 9 9 9 13 149 17 5 9 9 17 5
fossil lily
Maybe its not the full binary idk
icy onyx
Just, gonna point out the text at the bottom one more time cyz i feel people are ignoring the obvious.
"Access. Apollo engineering database."
"Recovery mission in progress, please wait.."
fossil lily
Might be a Terminal ingame for mercenaries
regal sundial
Holy shit
icy onyx
Link image?
regal sundial
It is
icy onyx
LINK DAT IMAGE
next mica
icy onyx
For comparison
next mica
definitely there
icy onyx
IT FUCKIN IS
narrow crane
oh fck guys
static dock
Yerp
foggy kindle
well I'll be damned, it does
narrow crane
you can see FOR A BE in the pic
static dock
Wat did Dondi meant b y this
narrow crane
look closeley
icy onyx
#CARNAGEISCOMING
versed rain
regal sundial
tfw in the stream he awkwardly brushes off the docks on new V3 looking even more like PC_Docks
icy onyx
foggy kindle
Doesn't Dondi uh, pretty much own the Primal Carnage IP now anyway? Or something of that sort from what he hinted on his twitter?
icy onyx
He has an SSD thats VERY important allegedly.
regal sundial
h m m m
foggy kindle
Hm yeah I'd doubt he'd get that unless if he has some control over the IP now.
wary osprey
@versed rain what are you overreacting about now?
narrow crane
icy onyx
Its in his twitter. But anyway, i believe we cracked it with @dim cloak 's help
foggy kindle
hm, sounds plausible.
icy onyx
They gon go recover anything they can use.
foggy kindle
Could this "recovery mission" thing be some sort of new game mode that's pvp-arena oriented like Primal Carnage?
wary osprey
icy onyx
Doubtful
regal sundial
Primal carnage was basically proof that sort of gameplay is a deadend
narrow crane
I think its lore
regal sundial
Plus the entire point of TI was to get away from that
narrow crane
and @icy onyx seems to be right imo
regal sundial
Among other things
icy onyx
Its a lore explanation for why PC dinos are gonna be in the game with #carnageiscoming
foggy kindle
IDK, just bringing it up since the game could be more then a survival open world one.
regal sundial
This is assuming that V3 isn't, now that Dondi has the primal ip or whatever, now the same island primal takes place upon
fossil lily
Might be a Easter Egg or reference to PC don’t ride on that train tho 100%
narrow crane
like the story is basically the same (creating dinosaurs out of DNA and stuff).. so what if Primal Carnage was actually before The Isle? like The Isle is a kind of sequel ?
static dock
So not only does this confirm that PC and TI are related
pearl palm
I hope primal carnage doesnt get merged with this game, it just doesnt fit
icy onyx
I think thats what dons going for
regal sundial
I mean there's always been a soft relation
foggy kindle
IDK, I don't see why the game and its assets could just be limited to one official game mode.
regal sundial
Basically in the past don wanted it to be tied into eachother
narrow crane
its not about a gamemode
regal sundial
But the PC people gave him a raw deal
regal sundial
But I guess things change
foggy kindle
I'm just saying, if it WAS a new game mode.
icy onyx
dead game.
Its about the dinosaurs being brought to the island for stidy
AE wants to see where the corp in PC went wrong
And improve on that.
excited
turns out to be something primal carnage related
no longer excited
narrow crane
i dont think so. im pretty sure dondi is slowly introducing primal carnage into the story of the the isle as if it was a prequel
icy onyx
dead game.
regal sundial
Being entirely fair Primal Carnage was always intended to be a major part of this game
icy onyx
A prequel could work as well
amber fox
werent people wanting a PC merge though
regal sundial
The only reason it wasn't up until now was him not having the rights
amber fox
and now its just went limp
foggy kindle
TBH, I hope The Isle isn't renamed to Primal Carnage: Something something ™
fossil lily
Most PC connections went down hill
narrow crane
i guess primal carnage is a prequel of the isle and not the other way
fossil lily
I ain’t riding that train all the way through
I say some Easter eggs and references and small connections are possible
foggy kindle
no offense, but the "Primal Carnage" IP name doesn't really have the best track record going for it anymore
^ Yeah
regal sundial
I'm guessing Dondi is going to gut the primal material for the good stuff then factor it in as a essientally reboot of the primal 'idea'
Just with a broader survival gameplay
Instead of arena deathmatch
lost depot
same guess here ^
foggy kindle
I'd be down for some Dark Souls-esque lore references and easter eggs to Primal Carnage, with it borrowing some direct concepts from the IP, like the nova raptors, but that's it
icy onyx
But i feel like The Isle has the more refined specimins vs PC which seemed very early-stages. Meanwhile AE has BIG ASS rexes which have armour and gigas with split jaws, i feel like PC was less advanced and therefore wouldnt make sense as a sequal to The Isle @narrow crane
narrow crane
maybe (now its getting crazy tho) primal carnage is actually about clearing off the island cus the dinosaurs escape? xD aka. the team you play in PC is basically just on the island to kill/catch the dinosaurs so both games play in the same time ? no se or prequel at all
could be a thing too
regal sundial
TI is basically an evolution of the PC concept from day one
It's just now they can outright say that's what it is
icy onyx
I feel like what don is trying to say
Is that the isle is kinda like what masrani did with ingen
fossil lily
No
icy onyx
Ffs look at the rexes differe t iterations.
lost depot
in my oppinion
narrow crane
I like the idea of PC and The Isle playing in the same time tho.
icy onyx
Put down your biased for 2 seconds.
foggy kindle
Hmm the Ingen >>>Masranai connections between Apollo and A&E are interesting.
seems likely, for sure.
lost depot
i guess....
regal sundial
I doubt it'll have any direct relation to the PC story even if it has the lore and some similar iteration of the setting
foggy kindle
but... who came first? A&E or Apollo?
lost depot
and it would be a reason for the isle getting fucked up
regal sundial
You mean AE or Phoenix?
icy onyx
I mean basically what PC turned into woth its lore was a failed genetics facility where everything was abandoned and died off.
Ripe for AE to come swoop in and nab what they can.
foggy kindle
The lore we have about A&E right now sort of hints that the whole thing fell apart though, and might've been taken over by the replicator?
regal sundial
The concepts of the biodomes and stuff like that is already in TI though, which is an example of what I mean sort of
The 'atriums'
fossil lily
I ain’t concentrating much on old lore hints
The recent stuff is going to be the most relevant
regal sundial
I'd say the old lore is much more relevant again
icy onyx
Idk man. Seems pretty logical to me, but if y'all wanna have your "OH IT TAKES ASPECTS FROM JPS NEW PLOT EEEWWWW" biased go ahead.
foggy kindle
Or this is some-post Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 2 shit with the current isle going back into feral territory after Masrani Corp (A&E) and Apollo (INGEN) failed.
narrow crane
guys take a look at the Primal Carnage: Genesis trailer
it could be the same way AE does it...
im just saying
lost depot
im gonna go
regal sundial
I'd suspect that a lot of those concepts are going to be expressed in TI Eventually™
From that trailer
narrow crane
i dont think the way they procuced the dinosaurs is much different from the way AE does it
like look at that rex in the container ^^
icy onyx
Thats my point
dusky walrus
anyone old enough to remember that PC:E hype train fan art from right before that game came out?
narrow crane
with the laboratory and stuff
foggy kindle
If both A&E and Apollo are gone, then who's the new one doing the current science experiments on the island?
regal sundial
The machinations AE left behind
icy onyx
What i imagine happened is this
foggy kindle
Aside from the replicator, of course.
narrow crane
I still believe PC and The Isle play in the same universe, the same time, the same place
regal sundial
Same universe
I believe it's overlapping times
With AE coming later on
And potentially same as well as different places
narrow crane
in PC you play a group of people that are supposed to catch/kill the fleeing dinosaurs
foggy kindle
I definitely believe the same universe/same place stuff... not sure about the same time period though
narrow crane
and in The Isle you basically play the Dinosaurs and the Humans at the same time
like an advanced PC
icy onyx
AE aquires tyranussaur DNA from PC island, they produce hypoendocrine rex, they have a serious problem, they refine the strategy and tech, BOOM, magna tyrannus the hypo killer.
regal sundial
But it appears that TI takes place after all is said and done with AE as well as Phoenix
fossil lily
The Isle will have some inspiration from primal carnage but I do not suggest going out on the primal carnage and isle connections
dim cloak
i honestly would rather the #carnageiscoming stuff as a PC update instead of the isle
foggy kindle
From what we've heard so far, the tech in The Isle seems... extremely advanced.
dusky walrus
same primitive
narrow crane
ye @foggy kindle and in the pc trailer it is too
icy onyx
Slow mode please in this chat?
fossil lily
I’ve been around for a while and have done a lot of theorizing and the primal carnage and isle stuff has not been strong
dusky walrus
primal didnt deserve what happened to it lmao
foggy kindle
Eh? nobody is saying that's how it is?
dim cloak
it was honestly the only good dinosaur game
fossil lily
I ain’t gonna stop y’all from doing the primal carnage theories though
icy onyx
Buder dude..
regal sundial
PC's story outside of the vague idea almost certainly will be irrelevant to TI's story
icy onyx
Where have you been.. check fucking dons twitter..
narrow crane
The Isle has those codenames for their dinosaurs too
dim cloak
dinosauriac and thedondi both come from PC
icy onyx
When the main dev is LITERALLY tweeting about it?
foggy kindle
Well, the Primal Carnage connections are practically confirmed at this point. The lore hints, the PC skins we got a glimpse of in one of the dev streams, the hardrive post on Dondi's twitter...
fossil lily
Calm down on the toxicity there mate
icy onyx
Im just asking
dim cloak
he's not really being toxic by pointing out the obvious
fossil lily
This is meant for theories not arguing
foggy kindle
Well, there was a time where Dondi outright de-confirmed that the game would be connected to Primal Carnage in any official or legitimate way.
But that was looong before this possible IP-merger.
dim cloak
the isle has broken "promises" in the past
fossil lily
Back to when the console streamed happened
foggy kindle
Or IP purchase, whatever it is.
foggy kindle
right, and he denied it at that time.
foggy kindle
but it looks like it's now happening anyway, so
narrow crane
Magnatyrannus (derived from Primal Carnage)
foggy kindle
Hmm
icy onyx
MMMHHHHMMMMMMM
buoyant heart
yeah....
fossil lily
Don’t trust the isle wikia
foggy kindle
I thought the Wiki was owned by some fan who got kicked off of the discord at some point? It's pretty dated with its info, and it's not always legit.
icy onyx
👏 B O I 👏
fossil lily
I don’t think that thing has been updated in a while
foggy kindle
Could be someone or some mod who's just fucking around with us.
fossil lily
Any lore stuff to be trusted will be pinned I know
dim cloak
i honestly can't believe there is any doubt with this being connected to primal carnage