#isle-lore-theories
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It is very much in the real world unless confirmed otherwise
But the factors that control life and death do so with the efficiency of a computer system that is being managed by something or someone.
Something very real makes equally real impacts in an environment where almost all creatures were designed.
But these impacts are calculated.
this is basically as boring as dream theories in tv shows so basically everything that goes against reality is just a dream or simulation its a trash idea
its an easy way out, ties up everything in a nice neat package
You're ignoring what I'm saying entirely.
Ie: simulations can also be things like military practice drills.
Or experiments
And the fact that it could be doesn't just end it there.
Why?
Is this some big case study for an even higher purpose?
Is this a war on three fronts with the profiles vs AE and the replicator?
I'm curious if the dinosaurs are actually flesh and bone bred or just complex robots. It's suggested that the player that controlds them is hu-....wait.
Who's behind the screens.
I'd think it's safe to assume the dinosaurs are indeed flesh and bone. If not, maybe like the Synthetics from Alien.
Ye and I figured out my theory only led back to AE with no real idea where to go from there so dammit
Of course there are reasons why regular people should not attempt to eat them.
Mhm
As for "behind the screens"
I have no clue other than AE.
I just hope they don't get too meta with the story.
I think the real-life simulation idea could well be a valid theory. From what we know, the Replicator is trying to create ever more efficient and adaptable life forms. So releasing dinosaurs/ tribals onto the islands is its way of seeing how they adapt and survive, and to perhaps use knowledge it gains from this to improve future iterations, so essentially the unforgiving environment and lifestyle of the Isle is a simulation in a way.
Then again, the devs could be looking at this and thinking "Ha! What a load of shite!" 
Ah, still fun to guess. š
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Replicator???
would assume so
Yup
I don't see how anyone would die to the trees if we can see them from a mile away.
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@copper moat spores
blinding spores?
Maybe take that to discussion
"Theories"
Keep your panties on
maybe the trees have a chance to make you some sort of strain?
Was already hinted at by Don himself
like theres a chance you either survive and become strain or a chance you get eaten/kiled whatever?
"Some will kill you, some will absorb you , some will take things you didn't know you had, and others will irreparably change you"
Don on the big review stream when speaking of the strain plants
@dusk axle
so theres a chance at least that the damn things either morph you in some way or another
Sounds like it
I still have no idea what the isle even is.
You got some reading to do my man
Ok, so I come here to make a little sum up of the doodles. The round thingy with spikes around, many of us I believe at first sight it could be replicator, but, do you all remember that teaser back in July 11? The security cam that seemed to be worshiped?
So it might somehow tie in
Now, brachi, stego, theri and titanoboa (if not a strain of it) kind of confirmed, but so far itās only concept art which could come to the game, earlier or later.
Pterosaurs. Likely not playable but will add up to the gameās ambient like dondi said on a stream (imagine vultures). What else could they do? Will they tie to the lore?
Praising the Hyperendocrine Spino: does it mean strains will be somewhat achieved by sacrifice through cannibals/tribals? Will they hold the key for strains?
And the big arch of doom: itās leading I believe to the now former redwoods now strain forest. Dondi said plant life will be dangerous, so it only makes sense
I forgot to think where exactly the gate leads to
looks H.R. Giger inspired too.
Thing is, how old would it be as well?
Tribal built?
Do y'all mind if i go a bit offtopic from the current convo
I think i may have found something from those hyperendocrine drawings made a while ago
12 of December, 1937
This is found on the hyper giganotosaurus picture too
I don't follow lore typically, but this might be something
If this has already been discussed, I apologize
maybe sets a precedent for what time it is?
I'm not SMART theory person, so I will probably throw up basic information like an idiot.
I remember searching for it a year ago
and found something about the US and some asian country
I think it was China
IDK
Could be wrong completely about what i remember
So itās either Date of Creation or something else entirely, If itās the first one I wonder how far AE goes back? š¤
There's also other things besides the day. I'm reading: "130 lbs", and then I see what looks like some handwritten notes along the left side rotated 90 degrees
so what, dinos like that are Nazi Ćberscience?
HSpino also has 12 dec 1937
Propaganda hostile to the USA
it also appears on the Hgiga
probably just a basic "official" document used a background to make it look like a serious thing?
you know, to give an impression just by looking at the concepts
But if itās not
I tried to look up stuff relating with genetics with the date being 1930s but Iām too tired to read so Iāll do that in the morning feeling refreshed
nah there's not much stuff tbh
they found out that genes are on chromosomes and that genes/genetic information can be transferred (Griffith's experiment) and the discovery of the "entity" that is DNA
like
it was very broad at the time
they didn't know what a dna strand looked like
they found out that DNA countain the genetic information in the 40's
.t license 2 of biology studies
It could be a good date tbh
if strains are not something that is really created
Could open the possibility of having the setting of TI where strains were found and made the speed at which we discovered new stuff on genetics and biology skyrocket
doesn't explain the dinos tho
or it's just old papers from back then, which laid the basic stuff for strain dinosaurs which are much more recent
the foundations in the background and the final products in the foreground maybe?
I'm probably overthinking this
"I'm bored, let's make fucking dinosaurs"
Not overthinking it at all I don't think. Tbh I had a similar theory that the strain materials themselves were already on the island in some form or another. Similar to what you said previously, I think AE took these materials and bent them as much as they could to their own will. But maybe they bent them a little too far and things spiralled out of control.
In terms of the dinos, maybe they were created by AE to experiement. Maybe they have/had easily adaptable DNA, so they where easier to experiement and test on. Either that, or they made them to prove a point to someone. Maybe it was to test out some new replication/cloning tech
where does AE come from then?
Well that's the thing, we don't really know
a branch of the US military (research and development wing?) which became privatized or something?
We know they have a large presence on the island (that's a given) but we don't know how or what they have used/taken the island for
a private corporation that got strong ties with the US gov or military/research and dev but still got a shitload of independence?
I would think they would be a worldwide organisation
But I think they get funding from the government yeah
Maybe they covered it up as some kind of conservation effort
maybe they were created by AE to experiement
if I (a biology student who's still quite conservative when it comes to applying findings right after experimentation and not into progress for the sake of it) was them, I would have tried that stuff on like... a herrera?
or a velociraptor?
you know, something relatively small and possibly not very intelligent
that would also be relatively easy to control or contain
Maybe they did, and maybe it worked. Which is why they then went ahead and tried it on apexes like the spino and rex
from the structures Dondi showed
they definitely had previous experiences
because they didn't go like JP/JW, they actually have an idea of what is at least required to contain the stuff they are working with
Yeah they must've done. Which begs the question, how did these tribals get on the island
I still wonder why they would ONLY do apexes and utahs after the Quetz one fucked it all up
Maybe this was the plan for the island. To let it just go haywire
like, between utah and apexes, you got a bunch of stuff you can still use
probably just a "efficiency" thing
Again I think that's because they lost control of whatever they were experimenting on
because Hutah is big, intelligent, and is just what you need
maybe they don't need anything in "the middle"
So maybe they did test it on other animals, but they failed, so they just kept going with the apexes etc
if tapwing's arts are canon, and the "failed test" Nspino is canon
then Neuro seems to have had several tries and errors
even when they refined it enough to use it on an apex
it's probably the most unstable strain
I would assume so seeing as it has some extreme effects on the environment around it
a failure with Hyperendocrine would result in the death of the specimen
hormonal imbalances, growth messing up
Even rapid growth could seriously screw things up. The amount of energy and force that would take would kill an animal easy
H-type makes the specimen bigger, stronger but also more intelligent, so a growth in the frontal lobe (problem solving and stuff)
and if things don't work well there
the animal can go very fucked up
not just psycho and sociopathic because it is always hungry and it's filled with hormones
but because the brain is messed up
and you said, the energy
as adult (when we play it) it needs to eat all the time
But as we know, the h type specimens are imperfect
Which would explain a lot
it grew normally until age 12 to 15 and was to hit "adulthood" around 18-20 years old
like humans, but going from a bit over human sized to a giant 4 m tall, 12 meters long killing machine
in the same time humans have their teens
now imagine that with a rex baby who's a H-type
the amount of food and growth
Would be absolutely insane the amount of energy needed to actually even function
yes
if you know 40k, you are litterally having a "wild type" rex equal to a human
and the H type being a Space marine
But thatās where the magna steps in. From what we know, the magna strains are perfected. But in my eyes, theyāre perfected versions of the type H strain
you have the bones and muscles who need to grow
ye
ye definitely a H type that was refined to be as effective while watering down certain effects of the strain
Yes exactly that haha. 40K is actually pretty similar in terms of the pressures a space marine has to go under
as far as we know, H types don't have additional organs, or at least not of the order space marines have (2d heart, 3rd lung...)
Or theyāve evolved āimproved versions of the original organs
This is more of an evolutionary overhaul gone wrong
imo, if a "transformation" of a wild type specimen into any Strain is possible (beside being born with the strain), it has to transform before the teens ages of the specimen
because so far, only the Tisso prevents the transformation of an adult
Tisso is being reworked
Would make sense as itās body is still adapting and growing
unless they remove the "tisso makes you smaller"
I actually think tisso might be a completely different thing to what we think it is
but even then, it woudl be much more effective to have the transformation act up just as the specimen starts havign puberty crisis
for all the development that's going to happen
I think (and I could be way off kilter) that tisso, is a strain exclusive to plants
Dondi did talk of an animation to shift from normal to strain
Well
Less talked and more answered " Yes " to the question " will there be an animation for the transformation into a strain "
that's gonna fuck the organism so bad
Tbf we still donāt know the exact delivery system of these strains
Whether itās gradual over time or itās a one time intense mutation
H type is very likely to be intense
Most likely all of them
the bone and muscle growth
I mean look at Neuro
it's gonna be a second puberty to the animal
It's disgustang
and all those hormones are gonna affect the brain
The neuro loses it's eyesights
the thing is gonna be psychotic
Yeye
neuro will have an understanding and perception of things that's gonna be utterly alien to themselves
imagine you are "relatively" intelligent
and they you get all that +300IQ, telepathy
>dino bogdanoffs
and tisso...
I could be wrong but tisso I think is specific to plants
Well from tapwing's stuff, seeing how the head of the spino changes, how it's sail can now move
and Giga walking on 4 legs
Again we donāt know if that stuff is canon though. Would be pretty neat if it were
But unfortunately weāve been kind of left in the dark in terms of tisso
Which actually I think is kind of a good thing
"consider tapwing's stuff on TI as possible canon"
Itāll be a complete surprise
Also donāt know if it was don that said it, but tisso is getting a rework
And yeah it probably would be
the only difficult thing is gonna be that the specimen has to adapt to the changes and change it's behavior accordingly
Depending on how it affects the animal
because H strain is making you more intelligent, but you are way too fucking hungry all the time when you're not sleeping to avoid wasting your very limited energy, and being intelligent is jsut a tool to get the food to stop being hungry for 30 seconds
N strain is gonna make the animal see the world completely differently (pun kind of intended), so the behavior will change somewhat by itself as the specimen see new oportunities open up
and the tisso will (from tapwing stuff) gonna be mostly the animal having to willingly change it's behavior to better suit the changes that happened to them, like the giga's eye vision or the spino's moving sail
imo, you'd probably get better results from a juvie wild type being affected by the strain before puberty knocks at the door
because you have the basic framework of the animal that is ready for changes to come
if you do it with an embryo, with the H strain ,for example, will have to deal with the increased metabolism from day 1... or even day -(how long it takes to hatch) which means more food and stuff
Yup exactly. So having a base Dino for the strain to mutate would be the ideal situation
ye
H strain (AGAIN) would probably mean the wild type juvie has to catch up what a H-juvie would be at (because it would grow way bigger at the same age) but the puberty could just last longer with the Wild type juvie
because they probably tinkered with the strains
so survavibility is still a thing
so instead of growing in 5 to 8 years, it could take 10 to 12 maybe?
Possibly yeah. Growth over a longer period of time reduces stress on the body
Hypo would be adult at 25 years old (in the case of the Rex) instead of 18-20, but it would be the size of a hypo, and twice the size
ye, you grow double the size but double the time
still have to substain that growth
and dinos in TI have a very was growth
if a juvie goes to fast to an adult, and survive it, a juvie getting hypo strain taking just a bit longer wouldn't such a stretch of the imagination
and AE could be okay with this
just feed the lil fucker while he grows
Yeye
let his body and the "slowed down" strain do the rest
That is if he doesnāt eat you
that's why cages are a thing
Letās hope the cages hold
Or at least were a thing
ye
Like ya boi Icarus
there's a limit to which you can reinforce a transparent thing.. or a wiring
and H quetz seems to have been that limit
@icy onyx pretty sure dinos in ti growing fast isn't related to lore
How fun would it be to grow a Rex for 8 years

...
Well it wonāt be a literal 8 years
a rex's teens were litterally the human's ones

You're missing the point.
Dinosaurs growing fast ingame does not translate to dinos growing fast in the lore
It would not be fun to grow for literally years
Then why did you make that. Comparison
I have doubt that they kept them without a struggle

because substaning a Hstrain for 12 years is gonna be very fuckign demanding
they want to produce them
Yeah.. I still think it's just a gameplay feature
Why would they load them on boats?
so you're saying that speeding up the growth of dinosaurs is too outlandish in a game with giant mutant dinosaurs and trees and horrendous, human-based abominations of god @tribal trench ?
No lemur.
if they tinker in genetic, wouldn't surprise me if they made so the dinos grew faster
I'm saying it's not necessarily the case.
But they have to eat a lot too
but not at the rate of ingame
And knowing how much those things eat
Good luck feeding them. What are you gonna make dinos and spend all that money just to be fed to your pet hypo named sparky ?
You can also have them grow at a normal pace, for, yknow, experimenting with juveniles
feed those tiny fuckers
Sounds like a waste of time and resources
as we said with Skull, they probably toyed around
trying with smaller stuff
or letting it happen
but since we have Magna, that means they perfected it
I still donāt even know what magna is
and if you want to experiment and observe, you want it to be fast
Itās not a growth stage
Magna is a strain
Dondi confirmed that
I have doubts
I mean...
Just a vague hint from a Dev saying "something like that" to a theory
What we do have are inferences
giant ass rex
with bones starting to appear kinda like the H strain
And then people took it for 100%
We don't even know what classifies something as a strain.
If it's if it's infected by something, genetically modified, mutated, etc.
so what? someone took the strain, modified it enough to make it different from a "strain"
and voila
Therefore I don't want to get into this argument again
oh okay
Magna inst exactly perfect
And we don't know what it is even
As I said way earlier and that ppl tend to forget is the case ( Or at least was at some point ) is that Magna is less of a strain and more of an hybdrid
Like the raptor of that category aswell
look, thing is, there are strain, AE definitely tinker with those and stuff happens
What are they a hybrid of though?
I'd need a pic of it
Raptor had Komodo and viper dna
how do you know that?
Where did that come from?
Is that just from the scutes on itās back?
Magnas are hybrids of something, but we donāt know what
Old stuff talked in a old anth ( 𤢠)video. In which he was talking to Dondi
At least we think theyāre hybrids
...
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Again it may have changed
probably magna as well
But my theory was
That Magmas are a more " natural " way of making strains. Instead of mutating the animals in strange and outlandish ways, they mix it with animals of the actual world
you call that natural?
I wouldn't call it even remotely like a "wild type"
maybe less "extreme"
but not "more natural"
You get my point
ye
just wordings and stuff
ya know you say something, people understand this and other understand that...
communication and shit
I mean to me
Mixing animals together seems more " nature " friendly than mixing it with mutated genes or whatever the f those strains arr
Yarr
He didn't say natural.
He said more natural
They're very different things.
Therefore the mess up is actually on your side, sloup.
Call me a fuckign nerd and fun killer, but modifying stuff with foreign material isn't "more natural" than another
but YES I get the idea
I get what he means
Mixing genes is more natural than whatever the fuck strains are.
I want to say something, but it's not gonna help the conversation in anyway and it's a deal of semantics and shit
discussing semantics never end well anyway
so I won't say it, and we'll carry on, alright?

Iāll bet it has something to do with the door
maybe
ring ring hey how ya doin
To ring or not to the ring is the question
It could be instructions for something that they're going to ask, but haven't yet. Kinda reminds me of people who are paralyzed, blink once for yes, twice for no, (asks question), etc...
Yknow the cat video where they ring the bells for treats?
Could be a āDino Intelligenceā test
Pavlov's Dilo
Yeet
Zombie Dinos wen?
You mean the death screen is appearing in transmissions
Ring the bell once for yes Yes for death
What does that mean?
Who knows its just a thought.
Likely a reference to the replicator
The End Is Never is the famous tagline for The Stanley Parable, it was first used in a preview image on Steam Greenlight before eventually also showing up on the loading screen. It also loops...

I can only think of the stanley parable anytime I see that. What's the moral of the stanley parable? Well, you, stanley, are given free will in a world that is supposed to go to one point in the future. However, you having free will, are allowed to stray from that path and do what you want. However, you're still always on some kind of path. It's the illusion of free will. You weren't explicitly given the choice, but it's still there in front of you with nothing to stop you from taking it. I believe this ties into the dinosaurs and possibly the humans on the isle. Their entire life is "narrated," and scripted. Even though they think they are doing what they want, really they're playing a part in a much larger game.
And tying into that second reference by Extra ^ there, There are a few endings in the stanley parable that require you to start over after doing something. This triggers something so that a few details are different, even though you're going through the same general situation as before. Think of that (I think,) silent hill hallway game where you're walking around a corner, through a little foyer area, and then down another hallway that opens up to a door, which takes you back through the same cycle, but details get changed on every pass. I believe that this is what's being referenced or driven home with the "End is never the end is never the end..." phrase.
Or maybe there's just gonna be zombies
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This isn't ARK boi
I dont keep track of this channel much but just in case i thought i'd throw this in here-
searching up the isle on steam and going through its information i found this part under the Unique Triple-Faction Gameplay section. I dont know if the -i dont know what to call it, isle store page on steam?- has been updated lately but just in case, seems like this is referring to "tribals" or whatever we're calling them now. dont know if the "indigenous" is their real name, though, or if it might just be a placeholder. it might just be old and outdated but just in case lol
Mercs, dinosaurs and tribals.
That store page hasn't been updated in a while I'm afraid to say. While everything in it could have been based loosely on lore that's still around, you're better off assuming that information is outdated and currently useless.
Hey weird theory I just thought of while on the train. What if the transmitter is the replicator but itās having errors so then the dinosaurs and humans are having unnatural mutations occur
And a bit more on that silly theory what if the transmissions are the replicators errors which is trying to share to the engineer to try and fix it?
@novel kindle Iād think the more important thing there is the āSurviving here for many lifetimesā but itās already fairly likely that the Profile system will be a mechanic and an important part of the lore
@icy onyx Donāt shitpost.
@dull basalt See post directly above mine
maybe each strain is made in a different way. like the hypo is made by messing with the creatures hormones to make it larger, stronger, faster etc. while the neuro and tisso are used by crispr technology. i also think the reason there is only two confirmed magnas because AE had found out they only needed a large tank destroying creature and one that can enter a building and hunt down personal and they learned that it is too expensive to make the other strains so they perfected the hypo strain to create the magna
All of them are existent (theoretically and of course in. Science fiction way) by a tweak to a certain system.
Hypos come from a hyper development of the endocrine system (hormonal regulation), which in this case would translate to its overgrowth and constant high energy burning (thatās why they need to eat constantly).
Neuros come from a super developed neurological system, no need for eyes because the nervous sensors throughout their body work perfect enough to sense their environment (I believe). Also add up new glands/body specialities that can control electrical fields.
Tisso are the odd one here because we havenāt had anything for a while regarding them. For all I know I take what they are from the name, tisso for tissue and plastic for plasticity. So an advanced camouflage system might be what they have or like the concept artwork shows, the spikey shape could be part of it, either for blending and can change the shape and size of that, or could work as a defence/attack system, unlike that of heavily armoured hypos
And Magnas if I recall correctly are the āLife finds a wayā animal in here, due to the existence of the strains
When you say life finds a way that makes me think that the magnas are a sort of evolution of the hypos that made them more able to survive in their environments. But we know that they came from the replicator. So, magnas are forced multi-generational evolutionary forms of the hypos? Could this mean we're going to get "magna" forms for the other strains as well? Or magnas are supposed to be the middle ground for all the strains, a projected evolutionary form of all the strains combined into one creature?
I feel like Magnas could be used to kill the strains, but that's unlikely
Magnas are supposed to be perfect organisms
Hypos were as good as it could get besides constantly starving to death, and magnas fixed that problem.
in a way hypos are just prototype magnas.
so is there a posibility that magnas are both, perfected maybe not only Hypo strains but a particular strain per species (Mrex for Hypers, Mraptor maybe tissos, and one more missing) and alseo they counter other strains per size and attribute?
Doubtful
Magnas are their own species. Strains are a mutation of a know species apparently created by humans. Thatās why thereās Magnatyrannus solus (I think that was the name). They form part of their own genus and species. Itās not a add strain name Tyrannosaurus rex.
And I mentioned they being the ālife finds a wayā because theyāre supposed to be natureās response to strains. Or thatās the last thing I remember which was a while ago and couldāve been changed by Don and the creative team of the Isle
Yeah but while we have seen a magna kill a hyper (even if it was situational) we dont know how a magna would do against the other strains
@fresh rivet magnas are hybrids, iirc, so ''nature's response to strains'' seems unlikely.
Welllll maybe the isle has natural ways of changing an animals dna
Like a super virus or something
But yeah magnas are kinda hard to pinpoint
Are they artificial or natural? An evolved strain or its own thing? Hybrids?
magnatyrannus
"Great Tyrant"
it's probably using a base of rex, but it's definitely different
I know games may have problems with Taxonomy and stuff, but the Isle has be quite consistent so far
Note how the tweet says "the universe" as opposed to "the island" or anything similiar
Something happened which modified our literal existence to the point of being referred to as "the universe just got bigger"
May as well toss it here for context
https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/1046514413971197952
i wonder what is this?
"A little" of the whole universe is A LOT compared to us
Also... The fact that it's been posted into the isle official tweet rather than the transmitter might mean that this is something related to the game rather than lore
They wouldn't need to say this in such a cryptic way
the deal with primal carnage
primal carnage? excuse me for saying such rediculous way but.... what is primal carnage?
team based shooter where one team were dinosaurs and the other were humans
Think TF2 with dinosaurs, least with PC:E
don worked on it
It used to have the backstory of people cloning dinosaurs for the use of war (or something along those lines), but it apparently changed?
Well, its coloration at least, it seems
the isle dilo is just a stiff dino that looks plastic-like
cerato goes in the same category
It doesn't have its own idle animation yet, so
somethign people may not ahve seen on the Tisso "deinonychosauroid" by Rodrigo-Vega

did you even read what I posted with the pic xD
Eh
Uta a tisso
Its
Therefore
Ignore it since they're getting reworked and we don't know if they'll get an appearance change
:<
couldnt this just be like
something akin to what ARK did to TSL owners
aka people who got PCE get these skins
Like the megalania strain too and the other thing
You mean Megaraptor
Megalania has never been mentioned besides Dondi poking a question at the modeler about it. It's never been shown in any concept art.
Only Strain concepts back then were Deinonychus, Megaraptor and T.rex.
the neuro rex is kinda derpy
how so?
Know that ">tfw too intelligent"?
Well take the meme, apply it to a rex, make it look liek his skin is some alien grey/transluscent looking thing, remove the eyes and VoilĆ
what could it look like tho?
ye
for rex
because there it just looks like a regular rex with no eyes, >tfw 2 intelligent and with a giant vein along its body
tfw giant with armor
hypo rex is just about as generic as it gets in terms of strain looks
So, Dinosaurs, plants, and "Humans" can become strain animals. Is there any animals that can become strains too? Such as the Titanoboa or Mosasaur?
not confirmed
hypo rex is just about as generic as it gets in terms of strain looks
that's why so many strain fan arts are Hyperendocrin
yeah you guys are right i mistook the megaraptor for megalania my bad
Honestly I like the standing concept for the neuro rex
i think the neuro rex looks cool
Only took two minutes
looks too much like the basic rex imo
I think they could go crazier but the simple concept is nice
I imagine itās head to be more sharply angled than a normal rexes like how the sucho or bary looks resting
Hypo rex is so bland.
I wish it wasn't a remodeled rex with back and tail plates and thicc eyebrows
At least hypo giga and hypo spino are interesting. Their jaws friggin split in two and hypo giga uses its mouth as a goddamn shovel.
Strain criticisms arenāt isle theories related course of discussion ā redirect it to #401464048610312195
Did we ever officially decide on what that one funky north star was? I was looking at it through the clouds on dev 3, and then out of the blue it just vanished. Still night time, no post-processing changes, no weather changes, etc... It just poofed.
I do believe it appearing and disappearing is weird altho i guess it can be explained by sky texture changes
it's supposed to fade out according to current cloud cover percentage, but the sky is a bit buggered right now
ah good to know
Is it possible that herbivores could be afflicted by the strains if they eat the plants that have them.
I mean, strains aren't for herbivores
However there is a lil someone doing a mod for that, so there's that
I don't think it would be that easy to become a strain creature, but if you're meaning like they get sick or affected in ways other than becoming that strain, I bet that's highly possible. And that may be true trash, so someone could make it so that creatures were afflicted by strains if they ate the plants, but since that wouldn't be canon (I believe), it's best not to even think about it.
how in the ever living fuck would a herbivore survive a strain without being one
See, and that's why I think hypo Utah would be scary. It's a hypo, except smaller
Nothing like ignoring the sound of thundering footsteps and unnatural roars
And that is a very good point actually
One of the key reasons I enjoy playing Utah actually; itās quiet
They canāt hear you coming until youāre right at their butt and itās glorious
I think becoming a Hypo (not sure about the other strains) will be painful and damaging at first, but as your body develops the enhanced regeneration, the spikes and bone plating will be healed into the body of the dino. Having a giant bone plate stick out of you isn't fun.
i'm not sure a hypo utah would be particularly stealthy
i dunno when you compare it to hypo rex...
AFAIK it's like Allo+ size, so it might still have some stealth about it.
I just realized the Cave Gate picture's line is a reference to Dante's Inferno.
Why do the Dinoās on the isle even exist? Did those corporations plan to weaponize them?
The cave gate art looks a lot similar to Alien: Covenant's poster
more interestingly,you can see what looks like a xenomorph chest in that art piece: https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/1c8a5a78791aa43223bd8f9115acabba-png.jpg
There's this interesting article which analyzes that poster a little bit,it's a good read: https://www.slashfilm.com/the-new-alien-covenant-poster-is-cool-and-scary-and-in-debt-to-some-famous-classical-art/
Ive said this before but could the fact that hyper rex and neuro spino resemble the hulk and the alien queen respectively be a in universe reference?
I donāt think so, no
Now that you mention it I do notice it tho xD
i mean if it is, then that means the scientists who made them are not mindless evil machines creating monsters for the heck of it and have a sense of humor or something
psychologically evaluating them from a possible easter egg
I think that the scientists just are opsessed with creating the perfect organism
is phoenix corp still canon
We don't really know
I'm sorry to ask, but what is Type-S? I thought I saw that when Dondi scrolled thru selection
a guy who meant to type type-t
Oh shit I missed the misspelling, I'm just a blind fuck.
maybe a strain plant infects other dinosaurs who come in contact with it and shit went wrong
Do we know if ' the creation of the ultimate organism' is stil canon
The original version of that image was titled: "the creator".
So this guy could be the creator?
^ This one just seems to be a bit of a higher-quality version. The only differences I'm seeing is that there seems to be some things in the fore-ground, and the man doesn't seem to be reaching out to the Hypo this time. There is also sun-rays in the older image, indicating either a lamp or sunlight through a window. This time there isn't such a strong effect, meaning that this creature could be there in the dark. One seems like the creator is fond of his creation, (and he's younger), the other seems to appreciate it, but not be fond of it (and he appears older) Both images for reference:
Why would anyone stand in-front of a hypo though
There was a theory that there's glass between him and the hypo (indicated by the specks and the way his hand is sitting), but I don't think there was glass.
Honestly, looking at the newer one, it seems to me like that hypo is asleep. Now granted we may just not be able to see his eyes, but we can clearly see the rest of the body directly behind his head in the shadows. I'm guessing that the rex in the first image was created by a younger, more optimistic "Creator", and the newer image is representing the same man, older in years, who has lost his affection for the creatures. The hypo in the second created I believe is subdued in some way against its will, like it's being transported.
I say this again because we can clearly see in the first picture that the hypo is standing and looking down at the man. In the second image, it's down on his level. And for a hypo, that's a very small level.
The hypo could be in a cramped space
^ against its will I'd imagine. Humans aren't worth eating for hypos. They give too little sustenance. I doubt it would actively chase him through such a small place for that little of food.
That could explain the tribal sketch showing the hypo spino standing next to all the tribals
Maybe it recognizes him?
He might be L. Might be Lawrence Carter if the character is still canon. Theres no real info to go on though.
He is either L or LE
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I need more big lore so I can be active again
I hate school >_> making me less active
Gotta wait until the next update I think.
It makes sense for hypers to ignore humans since they dont give enough food but i dont see a reason one would hang out with humans wasting time starving unless the humans were actively feeding it shants or something
What if the image is purely symbolic?
That's why I'm suggesting it's not hanging out with him for its own will. I'm saying it's probably in a compromised position that it doesn't want to be in. It would lend to how comfortably he's standing near it, because even if he somehow isn't human, I highly doubt that he could take on a hypo and live unless he's a god or shapeshifter or some shit.
And on that being symbolic, then take what we have: A man, staring in an either appreciative (like one would a piece of art), or one with disdain, and I'm betting on the latter. His posture screams to me that he's tired of dealing with the thing in front of him, or at least sick/tired of looking at it. That, or he's just purely complacent and is just staring at it, observing, but I'm betting it's one of the former. The old piece was titled the Creator, so I'm going to assume that this is the same man. My previous theory of this is a sort of continuation from the old piece, not a complete remake (unless otherwise told), says to me that this man thought he was doing something beautiful with the Isle and its inhabitants. Now, he's not seeing it in such a beautified way. The old image represents a man in awe of what he's created. Or, maybe not awe, but he's looking at it like someone who's extremely proud of their own art would look a new and challenging piece that took them weeks to finish. The "new" man seems tired of his creation. He's had a few years to grow cold to what he's done, and no longer sees them as beautiful works of art. That's the posture of someone who's standing in the doorway to their room that's in complete disorder, looking at the mess around them, knowing they have to clean it up sooner or later. He's seeing it as something imperfect that he's tired of trying to fix. It's a project that he's tired of working on.
The first image, the hypo is either free, or in a cage that allows it to stand, and is leaning down towards him. He had enough respect for it to let it at least stand. He respects the things he's created as living beings with sentience. Now it appears that the creature is somehow restrained on the ground. That creature is MUCH too massive to get that low (on his level) comfortably. I doubt it's doing it by its own free will. Meaning he's probably forced it into that position. He's lost his respect for the things he's made, and just wants the end result.
This isn't a budding project that he can see evolving as it grows into something amazing anymore. Now it's "just business."
I like that theory
the new piece is literally titled "The_New_Creator"
if you're referring to the "The New Creator" above the picture, that's just what I saved it as on my computer so I knew it was the new version
What if he's the replicator
It looks like the hypo is in some kind of giant tank
Those specks looked like bubbles to me and if the creator has anything to do with it it kind of makes sense
Fuckin test tube monsters
noice
Honestly the difference between the two pieces is kind of ironically symbolic of the isle's development and with dondi becoming bitter towards his creation and the community it has attracted
I'm guessing it has no real baring directly on the story though, like a comic book cover
Like the location and characters are relevant but not the scenario portrayed, at least not directly and more symbolicly or referencially
Honestly when I was typing up my paragraphs there that thought occured to me as well about dondi
Like the scene is more refined and detailed, but the creator is also weathered
Maybe Tap had the same thought when drawing it
I'm kinda curious what those things on the left and right of the foreground are though
Probably just generic machine/crate things
though
yah
I thought first that it were rocks
Anyone got a picture of that map that was shown to us a month or two ago when Dondi did that huge reveal of all the lore stuff?
nope
It's been flipped 90 degrees to the left.
thanks sherlock 
I am loving these rivers tho

what's happened to all the lakes on the floodplains? seems that entire 1/4 of the map has no water sources
This was before the update, I believe.
Huge reveal of lore stuff?
That image is just a frustratingly low enough resolution I cannot read the notes and titles on it attached to the lines and icons
Looking at his twitch in august he did a Q/A apparently. Which I'm guessing is the one you're refering to that I missed 
i wonder since tisso is being reworked, could it be that maybe more strains get implemented?
What are strains??
hypoendocrin, tissoplastic, neurotenic, etc @slim vault
monster versions of dinos lel
Lol oh okay got.
do we have any info about what is changing with the tisso? considering there was like one bit of concept art surely not much to rework?
Not yet.
I'd guess we'll maybe get some info on them sometime after all the Neurotenics are done or almost done.
i one time saw a post about the replicator transferring the mind of something to another body, maybe the strains were supposed to be piloted by human soldiers and they were like biological mech suits
oh boiiii
Me spitballing for the 100th time again
Are they connected?
Are āCannibalsā actually āPrimordialā?
Me spitballing again for the 101th time:
Is it possible that āCannibalsā (If going with the name basis of Primordial, Which could be false) were around longer than we thought? I imagine if something with a name like Primordial, Then Iād be surprised if it wasnāt a long time thing.
Reminder: Do not take this seriously, I am literally pulling this stuff out of me (Primordial could be a entirely different entity). Just a quick speculative theory
I think the first generation is done. We are in a different generation now.
Maybe new survival dinosaurs / tribals are coming in the next few months?
They've definitely been working on stuff behind the scenes
And in the most recent streams Dondi has shown a lot of stuff that's nearly done and hinted a patch is coming
Either before he gets back or not too long after
The replicator is not without its protectors
I wonder if the ex cannibals (blind boys) are those protectors
Who made those statues of the blind bois?
It had to have either been tribals or the blind boys themselves
But the blind amigos always seemed more animalistic and less intelligent than tribals

I dont think that they can use tools so i gues it were the tribals or canibals
"Gen 1 Prim incubation cleared."
Primus Allo strain?
this mean they might be working on it now?

Oh ok
I shouldāve been told this most importantly
this
here have hypo carno too
is it edited?
since hypo carno is cooler
hypo raptor is edited?
what
oh yeah
iT lOokS lIke aN alBeRtO @static crater
it looks more like the new raptor than the old one

i dont know they did say the hypo utah was edited when it was modeled back in 2016
Eye ridges are longer I think and the small spikes on the throat arenāt there anymore @indigo scaffold @static crater
Was the hypo rex we saw getting killed by the magna a severely starved one?
Idk
Am I the only one who thinks that the hypo colossus kinda looks like a sloth? or some type of mammal with similar anatomy? makes me wonder what it really was before it turned...
All the presumed progenators of the strains, or at least the first subjects are implied to be humans, yes
@fallow maple yes. It's a hypo human.

Hypo colossus is a hypo human.
i dont think that was ever stated directly

it somehow succeed at being worse than v2 allo
The allosaurus V2 is not horrible. He has her princess style but he was correct
Might I remind you all of what channel youāre in. Dinosaur model versions =/= isle lore.
my theory for the primordial is that it hasnt been experimented on and is the original inhabitant of the isle and has been living there before the kt mass extinction and is the last of its species and im telling this by its name the primordial
What primordial?
I think theyre talking about the recent transmission, where is says "gen 1 prim" which could either be short for primary or primordial.... Or possibly something else.
I feel itās more likely the transmission is meant to say primary
I feel like 90% of them mean nothing really deeper than just suggest general concepts and teasing to maintain interest in the story between patches
Well that could be true but since almost every mechanic is supposed to tie into either lore or realism, it's still useful to make theories. Because gen 1 could be meaning those new hypos we got, which ties into lore and into the patches, but I doubt that's what that transmission means
In the old loading screens there was some references to the differences between gen 1 and gen 2 utah raptors I believe
And maybe other creatures? I think it was mentioned in the swimming loading screen as well
Mhm, it would make since for the transmission to correlate to things like that, but this one is so vague that it could mean anything. For all we know, it means tribals are being implemented this next patch, or cannibals even as this would be their first itteration ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
So much stuff gets changed it's basically irrelevant until something more tangible and substantial is officially released
Pretty sure the gen 1 and gen 2 Raptors are just the different models. Survival and progression. That loading screen caption came out roughly around the time the survival raptor model was released.
Could be true, but we haven't heard anything similiar about different dinos who have also gotten model changes. For instance, the Rex. That's had a lot of work done to the model since the raptor was updated, yet we haven't seen a thing.
that would be pretty interesting, integrating in game changes as lore
I like to think of model changes as new generations outcompeting the last ones
have you guys ever seen the words in the loading screen when joining a game?
yes
they're in the pinned google doc
;-; thought i was cool for a second
We all think that sometimes.
By now I think Iāve seen at least 15 people noticing that for the first time and one of us killing their high dreams of discovery
lmfao
heres a theory every dinosaur in the isle are actually just extremely large snakes that wear shoes
should probably keep shitposting to a minimum
According to Dondi it does seem like there is still more Lore Related bits we have no fully discovered Still
That are in the maps still
He showed us a picture of what seemed to be a cave painting
According to him
He said there is things in Now
Idk if it is exactly these
But I would be on the look out for any caves
....well I guess I know what im doing today
I am trying to find a server that actually allows me to record replays on
So I can fly around and investigate in Replay mode
i didnt know that stuff was in game,neat
its not confirmed

^^ Best theory, 10/10.šš

Y'all keep it serious and read the channel description. You already have a warning.
Are those asian letter on the background
Itās about time AE finally received the countless transmissions
Either it wasn't on and couldn't recieve them or.. unmanned... or it took that long for the signal to get there...š¤
Neo and nova both mean new
Neoraptor?
I believe a Novaraptor was once mentioned in the terminal. Magnaraptor has been a thing for a while, but no updates on that for a while.
Mm
I believe neoraptor was said in a stream recently, in reference to the current Utahraptor (which Dondi mentioned possibly renaming a couple streams ago)
The name change, yeah
But why would it be named neoraptor tough 
Who ever is sending the transmissions apparently likes us?
Or something
I wonder what transmission hints at us leaving or maybe.. Idk
Now Iām just reading all the other transmissions to try to recap
Feels connected
Seems like Olympus Transmitter did a very big mistake
The new one is probably just referencing the updates being slow
Yeah but nobody leaves
Nobody just leaves the island filled with things that all share in common the intent to kill
Could multiple different entities be using Olympus Transmitter? Iām just wondering
Donāt know if thatās been thought before or not
Novaraptor was primal carnage and was mentioned in a stream in july 2017
Yeah but the isle and primal carnage's deal is gone so
If im not mistaken the deal with pc got cancelled
There was an img floating around from dondis stream with a folder or something with pce assets not sure
And people theorized a new deal was made
And it kinda makes sense if novas are being brought into play again
Iām pretty sure those were just for fun that dinosauriac had given Dondi to mess around with
Aw
Hm
You know, The Isle's moon is super big and it always irked me with how unrealistically big it is. But the sky has been updated, and yet the moon has stayed the same. So maybe it's intentional and somehow relevant to the lore. Just wanted to say that
3 days remain
Pue was replaced
Delete the off topic garbage before I get to my desk or Iām handing out whollops. The channel description is there for a reason.
so part of the message that the AE-TRANSMISSION-RECEIVER posted today in #transmissions had the word "neo" in it right? so if we look back to sep 18th the Olympus Transmitter posted "Generation Two.
neo-
/ĖnÄĖÅ/
combining form
prefix: neo-
- new.
"neonate" - anew or revived form of.
"neo-Georgian"
Origin
from Greek neos ānew.ā"
thats just something i linked together
ofc the "magna" part has something todo with the Magnatyrannus
and the "nova" might have something todo with the old novaraptor or.. something like that, i dont really know about this one though
š¤·
new magnaraptor ?
My confusion is in the origins of both words. One comes from Greek, the other Latin. We've already tied back a lot of the lore to the greeks (Code Hades, etc...) but I dont' think we've seen anything involving latin reall
which begs the question of, can we tie back any of the lore to Latin?
if so, and if we haven't, what all have we missed?
okay what's new?
I just realized you guys were talking about "nova" "neo" and that kind of stuff
The pun wasn't intended
transmission
I saw that
and that whole Neo novo thing
the whole greek and latin thing doesn't bother me that much tbh
since most of roman gods are copies of the greek ones
Not only that but scientific names can be half latin half greek
and in dinosaur names, you can find some that are mixed of Latin and Greek in the name
So the etymology isnt important
What if
The original nova assets were transformed into a "neo" temporary/unstable strain that then gave "birth" to the magnas
Kind of like an intermediary species
Supposing the transmission means a chronological order
Nova -> Neo -> Magna
Also since the isle has references to Alien (neuro spino looking like the Alien Queen) and the Alien movies recently introduced the Neomorph maybe the Neo thing is a strain/whatever magnas are thing
so rather than call it "2.0", they just used the name in the other fancy scientific language?
Nah its different enough not to be called 2.0
But it came to be through the neo
Think of it as dog breeds
Being refined over time but with different characteristics if you separate them long enough
Think of neo as the pug from 200 years ago and the magna as the more refined pug of today
Makes me wonder again if operation inferno is canon or not, probably not
anyone ever find out what the scattered words mean in the AE loading screen?
nope
"Y̶ĶĢo̵ĢĢu̶ĶĶr̶ĶĢ Ģ“ĶĢreality may b̵ĶĢe̶ĢĢcò̶ĢmĢ·ĢĶeĢ“Ģ¾Ģ tĢøĢĢeĢ·ĢĢmį¹Ģ·Ģo̶ĶĶÅ̶Ģa̶ĢĶr̵̽̽il̶̼Ģį»³Ģ·Ķ uĢ“ĶĶn̶ĶĢsįŗĢ¶ĢĢ aįøĢ“̢̔le̸̼Ķ"
...
This doesn't sound like some ordinary technical difficulty.
To look cool
Toa you forgot some text
I was only referring to that specific part.
Here is the rest, though. For those who care not to look in #transmissions
So I'm thinking we are getting a new patch very soon. And along with it, things are going to get
really
damn
weird.
Perhaps strain related update
Just an opinion, Iām not trying to shove this down anyoneās throats, but, Iām pretty sure since theyāre releasing it early Iād assume itād be buggy and thatās what that mean I suppose.
most if not all of the hyperendocrines are close to completion
I don't think it's just going to become buggy and that's why they're saying that. I just think they mean some things are gonna go down. Maybe
Didnt dondi say that this update is boring tho? And then the next update is when he starts playing the game
Hehe
@sharp nymph this be no place for memes
Check channel description
If you knew then.. OK whatever
i'll delete it right now i don't want another strike
there aren't alien messages in the text- that's just a glitch text generator. it's probably intended for the transmissions to seem a little staticy, corrupted, or garbled
but a nova's interesting- it's when a star essentially explodes, progressing to a new stage of its life cycle. like a supernova, but normal star-sized. something that was alive going through rapid metamorphasis or change
nova... kinda doesn't though. neither the dictionary nor scientific definition indicate anything "new", just rapid expansion or change
it does come from the latin word for "new," but that's not what the word means in the current day
here you go bois, speculate
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Hypo human = collosus
it was getting modled not long ago, so maybe theyre making AI of it...?
Could be, but I mean, Collosus is an old boi now. For all we know it has nothing to really do with humans anymore, and could just be some freak experiment gone wrong.
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Also, the login has been removed bois
Could it be that something was added in the dev branch hmm
They changed AE-transmission-receiver into AE.012-olympus

Would make sense tbh
Olympus is a mountain
Radio transmitters/receivers are posted on mountain tops
So the transmitter is named after the mountain its on
Or the name
Donāt know if the new ambient coast sounds will have anything
Coaster?
But yeah probably better to try and find buildings and towers
*coast
Autocorrect has a habit of replacing correctly spelt words with other words
well the river does lead into it so š¤·
i also found a shack in the forest at the back of the map but i dont think thats new, ive just never seen it before
This is on thenyaw right
Yeah v3 is currently disabled
Ah ok
I think he was joking about the hypo human lol
The colossus? I wonder if theyāre still going with it
Probably yes. The thing Iām still curious/perplexed about is what the tissos will eventually be. I just need a tease and I can be happy for the next year
This may seem far fetched but what if the Colossus is a hypo Gorilla?
I'm Probably Wrong
Theyāre hypo humans. The colossus, echidna and āreaperā
Are we sure about that though?
Yes.
Well we don't know if they're still a thing or they're being changed or adapted
I have a question
I would say changed or adapted considering the direction this game is taking
why would humans (or whoever built stuff on the isle, V3 specifically) gather dino feces?
Since when do they do that?
there's one spot in the harbor on V3
where it's a pool of absolutely disgusting and dirty water
and Dondi said it was shit
Is it contained in an area?
It is contained in the pool
and he mentionned somethign about pipes leaking with dino dung
and it was pilled up in it in a messy manner
and yes, it was inside the walls of the harbor
Would have to be of one species if it's for research. If it's of all...? Eh. Compost exports?
Yeah I would imagine it's for whatever's contained inside that facility
But it doesn't give us much
I'm just curious why they want it
No idea, just for realism I expect
Hypo? If it has to eat it has to poop
"we're gonna sell dino shit for millions, guys"
or just removing them from holding pens
dont want your prized livestock living in its own shit
^^
That means they have more animals in the holding pens than the holding pens can maintain though
no? you ever been to a zoo before? gotta remove the shit at some point even if there isnt that many animals
and i dont think people making abominations will be up to snuff with animal rights, i know if i was a horrible human being I would stick my creations in concrete pits
hey so i found something in the menu courosel
it's just a very white image of a predator but it looks like a rex hang on
hopefully you can see it
ok so there are two courosel feeds so ima go throught he second one and hopefully find something
looks like a rex looking up to something?
@warped coral phone died. Anyways I was moreso comparing this to a safari than a zoo. Which in that case it's a bit odd to need to collect waste from the animals. But that just wraps around to the initial question of why it's being collected XD ah well. Not the most important thing in the world
...Aliens?
who you callin pinhead
Iām dirty dan
Wouldnāt that be Colossus?
idk if they would add that to the isle but yeah XD
Quick little map theory here, but I think that the added geysers to the swamp on Thenyaw could indicate that the volcano is becoming more active
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Also another thing, does anyone have any idea what the honks around certain water sources are? I'm near a river right now, and I'm hearing the same honks that I've been hearing at other ponds but only more so recently this patch
Looks more like vertebrae of a big skeleton to me @jagged gate
I think the main menu's lighting now reflects your local time...
How it looks now:
how it normally looks
It wasn't that dark earlier I'm fairly certain
@carmine marsh thats a water pump station
It did that before @tiny carbon. Did notice it maybe looked a little different now though
yeah thats a fairly old thing thats happened
But it hasn't been this dramatic from what I remember. Like I noticed it slightly altering, but it seems to be much more pronounced now
The main screen changes depending on your time of day.
^
Where did the login button go? 
Oh crap I didnāt even realize that it was gone
no reason for it to be there for now i guess



