#isle-lore-theories
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but maybe they changed it to 8443
because it was similar to primal carnage genesis rex
was TI planned to be loosely connected to PC lore at one point?
No, I don’t believe so.
it had/has references
Like
The universes/properties are unconnected
But the names of things revealed have references to PC
Look guys there were pretty obvious pce references but dont focus on them cause they are pretty unrelated to the lore nowadays
Just think of them as minor easter eggs idk
@plain gale it was, then it wasn’t. It’s all very inconvenient references now
^
no
No
I have a question. Someone told me that isle will have herbs and apex removed. Is that true?
wrong place to ask buddy.
Where do I ask?
Ok thanks
I don't know anything lol
On a side note: tisspolastic. What ability do you guys think they’ll have? I always see them spiky or something like it when people make fan art. But, their name refers to tissue plasticity. Would it refer to, idk, camouflage? (Well, it can vary depending on the dino) As if they’re the assassins of the 3 strains (hypo the tank and neuro the mage). Imagine a specific one that can camouflage, imagine like heroes of the storm, you can kinda see them when moving, but when not they’re completely invisible. (Not a constant invisibility of course, it has to be activated)
Tisso would slowly change to resemble its environment maybe...
Maybe. I imagine them also being faster than their normal counterparts
Like an octopus or cuttlefish
That sounds like a pretty cool idea, but making it work is another thing
true
tisso's were planned to camo and have tracking spikes and all that but it sounds like it's getting reworked
assuming tisso's are meant to have a drawback the way the other strains do
I'm more curious how busted magna has to be to fight hypos
@fresh rivet their original abilities were camouflage, spikes for tracking and defense, acid spit, and being faster than their normal counterparts. I imagine they would also be smaller and lacking in brute force, but their other crazy abilities would make up for it.
They sound badass and I'm kinda sad they got reworked
well, a rework doesn't make it less badass. We don't know the details yet
Yeah but there's no need to change it if it's already mega cool
anyways I am confused about something Dondi
you said that the replicator chooses favorites
yet in here
What about it?
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
the I cannot choose favorites
is what's throwing me off
Roboto could be stating a fact and it's just breaking its set of rules maybe?
I wonder what the reason is that the replicator has this data hunger
why not distrust the replicator?
ever heard of a singularity
well
because
that was my initial thought
that the replicator is bad
Depends on who it is bad for
but then it came to me
if we are being controlled doesn't that mean we are lead to believe that
I had this idea a while ago
that the tribals are actually just replications
copies
like the replicator is trying to perfect
it's replication results/output
I'm pretty sure everything on the island are "replications"
(except for mercs, I'm not sure about them)
same'
Things live, die, and repeat apparently.
On the whole scale beyond life and death I'd say you are whats known as a profile. Profile could be a term for your soul, or whatever is left of you through the life cycle.
your profile gains or looses through time
the better the profile the better the next body
If you really think about, I guess you could say you are immortal if this thing is capable of bringing you back differently. You may come back with no memories, or it's just a literal replication which is just yourself except without the experience of your past life.
We could think of it as a more meta perspective and say WE are the profiles, as in the player is the soul of the character who is being reincarnated by this machine again and again
we are missing the why part
Well lets see
If I recall correctly, there was a method to "completeing" a profile
Unless thats just living a life and experiencing all you could
ok
but anyways, if there is a way to "complete" a profile it obviously involves living and dying and living and dying
Perhaps
It could be a specific number of these cycles a profile must complete for things to really get weird or change
Because it was stated somewhere, maybe the twitter, that you can only live and die so many times before things get funky
This is where
Of course an efficient way to accelerate this process is to appeal to the replicator as said in stream
So you get your buddies, do your tribal dancing and sacrifice yourselves or some no lives into the great replicator
poor lisa
And then maybe within your next few lives the replicator will decide "Hey, profile. You've been a great help with learning and all. Maybe you could use a few of these in your next quest?" and then you respawn with an advantage, disadvantage, wings, a strain, whatever it may be.
As tribals and the only intelligent beings that worship it, I guess
Not sure what would happen if dinosaurs just threw themselves at the replicator or started doing what tribals did with the worshipping and sacrifices
Utahraptor apparently "rivals homonid intelligence" so maybe certain dinosaurs could?
Or maybe it plays onto the "all profiles are not created equal" as it may favor tribals over dinosaurs or mercs.
Night. Don't die.
I just thought of something
What if everyone tries their best not to die, denying the replicator of information it needs?
Will it get pissed and retaliate?
I've thought of that, surviving for a long time and ultimately dying would give the replicator more information. Thought about starting an anti-replicator clan of tribals that would stop people from sacrificing to the replicator. I wonder if anything would happen?
I've also thought about what would happen to a profile that suicides repeatedly forever, rendering itself useless in gathering information.
For the anti-replicator clan.
Assuming that said tribals have spent a decent time on the island, the replicator may determine they have no intention or worship and don't intend on doing anything useful for it. Maybe it decides to release a strain against them like a pawn on a chessboard.
May even be why replicator favors some profiles. Some profiles are just gonna be dinosaurs the whole time and just live like animals.
While the profiles that are human / humanoid more are getting different stuff done for it
Going into dinosaurs and the replicator: perhaps having good affinity as a dino will actually make the replicate hate you less or like you more, whatever the case is.
Or you can straight up go the "wizard walk" route and be the most eccentric dinosaur out there. Cannibalizing your own kind, spending all your time in water as something that shouldn't, mixed packing and it might hate you.
Now I'm curious of the relationship between strains and the replicator. It could hate some, and prefer others. It could use type-H like weapons to cull the people who just won't die and complete the cycle
Maybe Neuros have so much anti-brainlet power that they are immortal themselves and the replicator is like "fuck off".
That was a bit of a tangent.
Anyways, as for a profile that repeatedly suicides, I have no idea. It might make some of the weirdness come faster, or nothing could happen.
It is an interesting thought that can go many places.
Replicator taking the place of admins in mega pack control would be fun
Also when Dondi said how many times you have to die and respawn before things get weird, I’m going to guess 15 because of that transmission the talked about the 15th generation or something like that
“ //...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled into an archive they handed down through the generations. As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most basic and violent ideologies remained. “
“ //...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
The first generation turned to worship. Results were hindered by the malignant passing down stories of how they came to be. Soon they stopped giving results at all. Echidna considered them all children. “
Echida and the tribals....
There goes that potential complicated relationship between strains and the replicator.
It might even be a story reason why some strains could be harder to obtain in the first place.
The other strains such as the Hyperendocrin may be easier to manipulate because the profiles are being convinced its what they are, its what they want to do.
Tisso is a wildcard because we know 0 things about it right now.
But I think I can say with safety that the Neuros with their extremely enhanced cognitive abilities are basically redpilled and know what the fuck is going on
I could go into this thing where I say that Neuros are biologically immortal and can cheat death as defiance against the replicator but that seems even more baseless than this giant lore rant that I'm basically going on, lol
I'm going to close out and say that the Isle's story, with all the evidence that we've gained so far, seems to have its main theme be the contrasting of compliance and defiance through analytical scientific description and prophetical religious motif to illustrate one giant soul-ride that makes us question who or what we really are.
so it's late where I'm at and I can't sleep, and I'm not really sure if what I'm about to type belongs here or in general discussion... BUUUT
there's all of this underlying fear and a lot of people jumping to conclusions that herbis might be removed as playables because Dondi said "they won't be a problem anymore" or something like that, right?
BUT
we also had that recent stream that showed off all those neat ideas and concepts for upcoming content
and one of the new things shown off were plant strains.
and Dondi hinted that plants strains would be able to do all kinds of crazy shit to players, from eating them, to melting them into goop, and to "removing things you didn't even know you had."
well... put two and two together and maybe you can kinda see where I'm getting at here.
I'm probably reaching so hard with what I'm about to say, but what if plant strains will be the solution to a lot of issues associated with herbis and their gameplay?
like example: a lot of people say that growing as a herbi is too easy and boring, because players can just afk in a bush until they're full-grown, as long as they have plants and a water source nearby.
but - you can't hide in a bush for too long if said bush suddenly decides to fucking eat you as karma-payback for attempting to take the easy way out of things via constant afking and not actually playing the game
see where I'm going with this?
so uh, to make this lore-related I guess... what if some plant strains were created to keep certain players and species in-line, and become an integral part of the affinity system?
I'm thinking maybe some of the weird plants might remove tracking devices in dinosaurs.
that's an interesting idea. that not all of the plant strains will be inherently "bad" and that some might've even developed a symbiotic relationship with specific factions.
or that they just offer random benefits, rather than negatives
I'm just scared that there is going to be a plant equivalent of the Neurotenic strain
Can you imagine pissing off a forest and suddenly the weather changes?
tbh neuro plants were my first thought when Dondi mentioned that they'd "take away things you didn't even know you had."
because neuro strain is all about mind games
and yeah, I didn't even think about plant strains creating environmental changes
just player-inflicted ones.
them affecting the environment or multiple players opens up a whole new can of worms
like imagine a megapack of apexes camping at a lake for far too long, and then after any time between 30 minutes - 1 hour or so, all of their health starts to slowly deplete because the nearby plant strains afflicted poison in the air or something, maybe even contaminating the water itself so that they can't drink from it. thereby forcing them to migrate somewhere else.
but said plant strains are cool with suchos and deinos camping said lake because, well, that's what they're supposed to do; they're playing their rightful part in the ecosystem. so they aren't afflicted with/affected by the poison.
freaky stuff.
Yeah, it does open a realm of possibilities as you said.
now I'm kinda hoping that's what plant strains will be used for
just gotta wait and see what happens I guess.
I wonder if plants will have their own unique strains
Since Dondi did say they are derived from the same material for the strains
hmm that's a neat thought. what would they do though? if we're going by the current 3 strains, then I'm assuming that plant strains would function kinda similar to the dino ones. Like hypo trees would clearly eat and kill players, neuro trees would affect the weather or induce hallucinations, tisso trees could poison nearby food & water sources and etc.
Hyperendocrin giant trees, would they be possible?
Considering the nature of the H strain to be highly regenerative and very large, I think so.
Easy, just burn the plants and trees 
The concept art looks like a Hyperendocrin
Looks like it burst out of a normal sized tree
And grew so tall it burst the greenhouse
So we know the tribals and cannibals are the same thing. And they worship the replicator, wouldn’t the replicator be echidna?
No.
No
Hm?
Yeah but they are associated with echidna though
Echinda could be the mother of those things with no eyes....
And echidna seems to be some sort of leader to them
But, wait you’re right
Would make sense if she was the mother
Wasn’t echidna’s “title” mother of cannibals ?
Yes
And the cannibals worship her, so I think she may be the replicator as why would you worship two different things
Who said they worship her?
It would make sense to do so as she is their mother
echidnas title was mother of the what we THOUGGHT were cannibals.
seeing as echidna also has no eyes..
Not once has that ever been said about her, all we know is she is "The Mother of Cannibals"
That Title still probably hasn't changed just the cannibals more than likely.
Replicator is a machine
You also have that too^^
But than what is echidna?
If they give her so much respect why would they do the same to the replicator?
Who said they do?
She is their mother. And it is said she loves all of her children wouldn’t make much sense for them to hate her
She loves her children. But it doesn't mean they worship her.
Even if they respect her, would the replicator want that? Based off of how it picks favorites and encourages them to kill to please it
If echidna is their mother, what is the replicator to them? And vice versa
Who knows what the Replicators true intentions are, But one thing I believe it wants is a perfect organism, for what reason who knows
Mhmm
Okay Cabbage
Its like this
Your mother is your mother, But your God is your God.
Who would you choose?
That’s not up to me that’s up to them
You will get some people with different answers
I know what your trying to say
Those people are going to die by the Replicator.
People who are favored by the Replicator probably have a lot of information and a lot of tricks.
Who knows honestly. All we know is that Echinda was is the mother of what were so called cannibals.
All we know is she was a an experiment for
"Neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen"
Yep
I got a question
Werent they blind bois referred to as cannibals in the streams they were teased?
With their animations and screams and all that?
Why are they suddenly something else?
Cause Dondi said so
dondi said so
^
They were never cannibals
^
@pastel path They just call her that because she's a humanoid injected with a strain making her kinda look like a cannibal
Or they have a real reason to call her so ?
As far as we know they could be calling her " mother of cannibals " because in the tribal's eyes she's some kind of goddess
We don't really know
oh
but this
and now that im checking all its animations and previews are labelled as cannibals
🤔
Dondi threw us a curveball and said its something completely else lol
It might be
its probably named cannibal there cause dondi knew that if it had a different name, we would find out and then the "secret" would be revealed
its probably not a "halfway" change but rather just a disguise
🤔
Besides, didn't he say something about the actual name being a spoiler for the story?
I believe he did
i think it is, though "cannibals" have always had a neurotonic look for me
well they likely are due to their relation to echidna
indeed, i also wonder if AE has anything to do with narcotics or military at all, i mean for sponsoring all the reaserch they do
Apparently resorts and hotels are on the island?
cough hotels don't mean that its a park, could be, for, yknow, the researchers if you were gonna say that
maybe stress relief
since they might see some fucked up shit
would be nice to not have your researchers go crazy
It might not be just for researchers though...
class D bois
Hmmm
One place is marked as "Visitor Arrivals" for a Monorail Station
Why would there be a Visitor Arrival Monorail Station on an island with dinosaurs on it?
to get around.
"Visitor"
not taps art but same stream, when he shows off the newish version 3 map
Anyone wonder that the reason coordinates don't work is because the Isle is moving? No? Just me?

WAIT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. ...MY WHOLE LIFE AS A DINO IS A LIE???
But seriously has anyone checked the coordinates of a location multiple times to see the change?
Because this could be a big lore thing if this is indeed a thing.
Theories on what the blind bois could be:
- The echidna or its "children"
- The first generation of human conciousnesses in dinosaur bodies,slowly devolving to complete dinosaurs
- Genetically engineered dinosaur with human dna (as opposed to being a human engineered with dino/strain dna)
- Something else entirely
Wouldn't it be the 15th generation? @slow delta
I mean it says the later generations devolved more and more into their primal instincts and this looks too humanlike to be that imo
Could be one or the other, really
It means dying and being revived
I had found a file that told you to suicide and kill
Maybe this order is how to give info to the rep?
(wouldn't that mean, sacrificing yourself and reviving via the replicator as Don said, after around 15 times, start making you a blind boye or smth?
Idk but the file i found had like 8 suicides 1 kill and then 2 more suicides or sth

i couldnt suicide that fast on survival servers so i couldnt test that
Do you know what it was exactly?
Yeah i can find it again once im at my pc
Ill find ita again try it on a server and see how it goes
Hopefully the kill can be ai
I can try and help out, though I'm not on pc
Aight
I wonder if the rechearchers are still alive or if only the replicator remains
I wonder who are we supposed to side with
Who is the good guy that carea for the humans
The echidna or the rep
Good question
Is it both,one or them, neither... who knows
I hope echidna
I want hypo rocks
...

as i promised
here's the file i found
Steam>steamapps>common>The Isle>TheIsle>Saved>Config>WindowsNoEditor>Input
and it says this:
[/Script/Engine.Console]
HistoryBuffer=s
HistoryBuffer=suicide
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=suici
HistoryBuffer=suicide
HistoryBuffer=suicide
HistoryBuffer=suicide
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=kill
HistoryBuffer=su
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=sui
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
HistoryBuffer=Suicide
anybody at their pc who can check if their file has the same stuff, cause maybe this is just a log of my actions since it says history buffer
@tribal trench are you at your pc hati?
oh?
Nope, sorry
what does yours say david?
Mine are just the key mappings
weirdo* 
...o-o
[/Script/Engine.InputSettings]
ActionMappings=(ActionName="AimWeapon",Key=RightMouseButton,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="AltFire",Key=Gamepad_LeftTrigger,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="AltFire",Key=RightMouseButton,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="BuildNest",Key=B,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="BuildNest",Key=Gamepad_Special_Left,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="CameraIn",Key=MouseScrollUp,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="CameraOut",Key=MouseScrollDown,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChangeStance",Key=J,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="CharacterMenu",Key=Insert,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChatChannelNext",Key=NumPadNine,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChatChannelPrevious",Key=NumPadThree,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChatEnter",Key=Enter,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChatScrollDown",Key=NumPadThree,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
ActionMappings=(ActionName="ChatScrollUp",Key=NumPadNine,bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False)
just a portion of it
I'm getting on pc atm.
you get the idea.
idk
hati, post what your file says too
I'm on dev
i just noticed something
on the dev client on the bottom right row of lights
the very last row flashes
but its not bright/fast enough to be picked up by my morse translator
but maybe once its brightened/sped up it can actually prove to be morse?

sigh...if we only had all the tools for this excavation.
Theory : Giant skeleton in redwoods is a full grown matriarch specimen
the matriarch is a creature.
and if one can be created by the replicator, how many other things like it could be a thing
Hmmm
What I think happened is that the "Cannibal" was going to be the cannibal in the lore, but then Dondi probably decided to make a change in the story
Wait a sec
What if those files are specific to a profile
So a specific profile has to attain or carry out certain tasks to get through the gateway
And maybe after each sacrifice that specific list of tasks changes
Has anyone had a look at the lights which light up on the main menu at night and if you have have you try to decode it
lmao
his avatar's expression is priceless
it's like "lets see what the community is up to" only to be slammed in the face with big disappointments
Its as if he expects disappointment...
User of said dinosaur inputs commands to said dinosaur?
@past trench i have and the morse doesnt seem to change depending on the time
I think we should have a look in v3
Maybe the morse codes from the towers changed
also, is the morse in the lights on the menu, related to the feint morse code you hear at the radio tower?
ooooh okay, cool
You can find all the morses in our pinned doc
thanks!
Np
yooo "SEISMIC ACTIVITY: PROBLEM" thats dope
Ikr
Could be referring to that big set of ribs, or the thing that killed it
or the volcanos or something
Could be although i doubt any animal can cause vibrations loud enough to be picked up as earthquakes
I'm probably hella late to this party lmao i never really got involved in the theory side of it before but its super interesting
And i think the volcano is definitely possible but also kinda cliché
Nah its fine just catch up to all the stuff and youll be fine
Yeah i can't see Dondi pulling something as cliché as the volcanoes, you right
I kinda go with the whole theory of the player being the 'gods' the tribals pray to, because we in fact control them and the dinosaurs from the terminal, super fourth wall-y
and the Replicator is the respawn system haha
It kinda clicked in Dondi's last stream when he was like, "Why wouldn't you pray to a god that brings you back again and again" - Well, that's just what we do, when we hit respawn on the terminal

...you have a point
The Isle its self being a super secluded place, using dinosaurs as test subjects, making the Hypo Strain, making the hypos as military weapons maybe? That going tits up and basically turning some of the mercs to tribals or something
like Jurassic Park meets Prototype
Or the tribals getting their hands on the strain somehow, idk
This theory makes the most sense to me because, everything is known as a test subject
i feel like its more of a "lets push the boundaries of science because we can" scenario imo
Yeah i feel that too, also super viable
on an unrelated note, could you consider the appearance of the strains as easter eggs? like the green hyper rex resembles the hulk and the neuro spino the alien queen ?
That's a super interesting way of looking at that
i've never thought of it like that before
yeah if it is an easter egg, its a pretty neat one
I can't wait to see a Hypo in game, i didn't even know about the game when they was in
honestly i care more about the strains lore-wise rather than in-game wise
I feel ya
Wow, the distant dino noises really kick up at night
What lurks in the redwoods...
Ok so seismic activity doesn’t have to be earthquake worthy. If an animal or object has enough mass or speed it can send shockwaves which trigger seismic sensors
Like the the world soccer and all the fans in Mexico who cheered and it caused one of the sensors to activate and record the movement
So possibly something massive is on the island which is causing a sensor to activate
Space alien meteor
Nobody noticed that dinosauriac reacted to that
So does this mean his guess is right or that its a logical way of thinking?
🤔
its tripods, the dinosaur stuff is a false flag the isle is a war of the worlds tie in

Wait dinosauraic reacted to my theory?!?
Ok well if something was that big what could it be
How heavy is a hypo well more specifically how heavy is the hypo colossus
Also the movement has to be in an certain area. Isolated for it to trigger a sensor
I have an idea of something big enough to do that.
Noticed yesterday in one of the menu a weird creatur. Something crocodilian with spike everywhere on the body
Was at the very end of the loop of the menu main screen
Probably already spotted since long date. But seeing it was scary
hypo spino
Damn I do not want to meet that thing in game...
The thing big enough to cause the seismic sensors to go off might be one of those island walkers prolly
Assuming that it is something biological that caused it
well... don't know if many people really pick up on it, but there is a sort of sonic boom when large dinosaurs are running in-game, idea was to emulate the effect JP Rex's approach which produces mini-quakes.. https://youtu.be/rxqHVoZ0fzc?t=14s
This scene speaks for itself. Amazing. (If you want to go to the chase part, 0:41)
👀

has the startup morse been decoded yet?
damm
I wonder how much the merc's are being paid?
what if they're not being paid at all?
i mean they just spawn with a torch and a knife
They are called mercenaries. So they must be paid.
What if "Mercenaries" is just a codename/placeholder? Just like how the "Cannibals" aren't actually called Cannibals?
o.o
let's not go down that road of paranoia
" What if the magna rex is not actually called magna rex but actually something else
"
see where this is going ?
"What if The Isle is not actually an isle but actually a dinosaur planet
🤔 "

What If the magna Rex is actually just a normal tyrannosaurus Rex that was born with a mutative gene that caused it to change irreparably over time into what we now know as the magna tyrannus.
Actually that's not a bad idea, thanks brain!

What do you think of that for an actual theory on the magna weirdo?
There is some very old lore that says the Magna was supposed to be the "perfect organism" or something like that. This also goes along with a lot of the Phoenix Corp. lore which is pretty much retconned at this point, so I'm not sure if it holds up.
Your theory though, I like it. It goes to make us believe that the Magnas were nature's response.
In that case, we may be fighting a war on three fronts.
Man. Nature. Replicator.
Cool if so
The Magna is a perfected Hypo
It's not nature's response, its man's response to nature fucking up
Dondi hinted about this thou
show me?
k wait a sec
because saying "something like that" does not mean its confirmed
He didn't say something like that he hinted at that
show me!
But hypos are stronger than magnas
Wouldnt a perfected hypo just not be as hungry all the time?
when was it said that hypos are stronger than magnas ?
we literally saw a magnarex kill a hyporex
There was a twitch clip of a couple pics that shows how a magna completely murdered a hyper
Magna is a better hypo due to not needing to consume constantly
Are they stronger?
magnas are stronger, yes
Someone on theories month ago stated that the Magna is a perfected version of the hypo
Will there be a magna spino and giga?
Also when the manga was revealed it kills a Hypo rex
@ember flame so was it one of the devs?
i mean the person that stated magna being the perfect hypo
Sorry should of said stated
you.. you did
soo
bassically
your "dondi hinted at it"
is dondi saying "something like that"
Someone else said that before thou
when someone made the theory?
"Someone on theories month ago stated that the Magna is a perfected version of the hypo"
^
Sorry for my way of trying to explain this but someguy a month or two ago, stated a theory that the magna is a perfected hypo with very little faults, after that post said guy made, dondi emote to the guys theory
I don't know which one
But he did
yeah i saw that, that doesnt mean its right tho
Magna>hypo confirmed
dondi also posted fan art of a herra climbing trees
lel
that doesnt mean herra is coming to survival tho
Bet its still gonna be a perfected hypo
Dondi even describes the creature as a normal animal
Yah herra isn't coming to survival
Wait tho
Basically hypos and magnas have the same damage but hypo does more because he is bigger?
Or are they the same stats but Magna doesn't eventually die of hunger
Hypo has more weight I believe which affects health
Nope magna can destroy hypo, like how a destroyer ship can kill a battle ship
Hypo uses up to much energy
how do you know this tho?
Biggest weakness
whats your source of info
There was a reveal of the magna last year
yeah i saw it, the reveal didnt show the stats tho.
But can the magna kill a hypo spino
A picture of a magna that killed a hypo doesn't mean it destroys it tho
^
true
Like, I wanna know if Magna occasionally oofs it or if it was built to hunt hypos
we dont know^
ok, but saying "Nope magna can destroy hypo, like how a destroyer ship can kill a battle ship" even though you dont really know that is....
Because it can
once again, how do you know that.
Again magna reveal last year
didnt reveal any of the stats
I'll take what I said back
I imagine it has a chance against it, not that it completely destroys it
not to mention the times dondi said in stream that magna is weaker, but doesnt starve out
Sorry for the mess guys
It's k
Pictures can be misleading especially knowing how don is lol
We basically won't know till dondi confirms it or their ingame
true
Sorry for the sperging guys
Np
I don't think anyone has ever really considered this but
the hypo that the magna killed could have been starving?
would explain why the magna was able to kill it, and also draws a parallel to how magna is basically a better hypo / better rex since it doesn't starve out quickly
people keep saying it's a better hypo smh, we don't even know that
magna is definitely man made though as it was replicated ( or atleast replicator made since it may be sentient to some extent )
Well it's not exactly a strain like hypo, or at least most people think
it's basically just an improved version of a rex
but similar power to a hypo
which is why I draw the comparison
because it's massive and strong similar to a hypo but doesn't have the negatives of constant starvation
If the hypo was starving, which is it's biggest negative which magna doesn't have to deal with, it could have already been pretty weak and therefore the magna just finished it off
I'm pretty sure it was stated forever ago that magna strains ( rex and utah ) are hybrids, with other animal dna ( crocodile and something for the rex, cobra komodo dragon and something for utah ) while strains don't seem to be hybrids at all and just general fuckery of science
so magnas could be " refined " or " natural " strains, if you will
If the Replicator is gathering data from each Profile (life) from creatures that it makes, such as the dinosaurs and tribals, then are the mercenaries a threat to it as they may end Profiles prior to completion? Saying that, I imagine the Replicator can also benefit from this interference if it wants a Profile to adapt to opposition from the mercenaries, or if there is a problem creature that needs to be dealt with.
I think completing a profile doesn't necessarily mean death of the subject. I think it's pretty clear that profiles are something that remains through life and death, so I don't think mercenaries killing things would end the profiles. However, we already know the mercenaries are going to get an arsenal to deal with the many weird things happening on the island, I so I would not be surprised if they had a weapon that not even death itself could be an escape from.
But yeah, I think mercenaries could be a major threat to it.
I think it would be hard to trap a profile after it's physical body is dead.
hacker
lel
And if there is some kind of campaign (or at least a narrative) then would the goal of the mercenaries be to shut down the Replicator, while the tribals would be to protect it until they become deranged cannibals?
And on the topic, what weapons do you all think the mercenaries could have in order to fight some of the weirder creatures on the island?
Good Question
Fair. I'm looking forward to seeing what types and how they balance them to make the mercs lethal but no OP.
There was something about a “hypo gun” talked about in the past. A mounted gun that was the only weapon mercs could damage a hypo with
they never said it was mounted but yeah i remember don talking about it
most likely a rail gun
I imagine that is going to be as hard to get that gun as it is to become a blind boi if it is still being implemented.
everything in the game is difficult to a degree but you have to find ways to cope with thse things, and thats what the game is really about. overcoming the challenges put infront of you and surviving
Aye and that's what I love about it. It's constantly tense and the rewards are great. Can't wait for the human side of the game to come into play.
I've been giving thought to what kind of weapons would be useful against strains. I've designed the "hypo" gun, I'll upload it to the fan-art section tomorrow. Basically I ran with Urbans suggestion of a non-mounted rail gun. I've designed a weapon that can be carried but must be set up to fire. Currently designing weapons for the other two strains.
Just use a 120 mm Sabot round
Or a squash warhead of similar caliber
Still question it, use a 140
The gateway Dondi mentioned in his stream is actually Thenyaw island, notice there are little to no human structures on the island and if the gateway is another world the black hole on top on the Thenyaw map is the gateway leading into the map and little to know one has explored it. Thenyaw is not a test map Thenyaw is the world that the gateway leads into. I am high as hell as I write this

Have there been any dev branch map updates? Maybe more morse codes were added
what I'm about to say will probably sound absolutely fucking retarded, but
Has it been confirmed if female tribals or cannibals will be a thing?
Or is Echidna the only confirmed female that we know of?
because of its the latter, then I wonder if cannibals will function like some kinda insect or naked mole rat colony?
AKA if you wanna "reset" the cannibal population of the server, then you have to take out the (AI) queen and then their whole world will slowly fall apart until a new one appears... since Echidna is the only one who can "reproduce" in a way, that we know of so far
this is probably already been brought up before anyway, MB if it already has. But cannibals really do give off those "hive mind" colony kinda vibes to me.
Not sure... I think they are a thing...I mean...um...I have no clue. All of that had more info than I knew about.
I imagine the option will be there for tribals. As for the blind bois, no idea. Don't know if it will be a relevant feature for gameplay.
During the last big stream where we got to see the plant strain concepts, there were other concepts of a massive spire-like radio tower. This could be a dumb question but is that the Olympus Transmitter?
Fair enough.
idk if this is a known thing or not but in the loading screen in the genetic code making up AE you can find words, ive found real, fake, perfect and why, tho there might be more, im new to the isle so this might be common knowledge
@reef relic The Google doc that's pinned has that and more. Those words can also be found in the startup screen.
That is very helpful to have lol
Hey guys! Sorry I’ve been gone for a month, I had to install a whole new motherboard on my computer and I’ve been having phone issues too. Are there any new important things that need to be added to my website that has happened since August?
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@dull falcon Did you see the big stream reveal or did you miss that as well?
Because If you didnt then I would recommend watching the clips for it since there is some lore stuff
The one about the map, tribals, etc.
strain plants
How or why does the replicator want/need/like sacrifices to it? If the replicator was just purely a machine with components I would imagine that it would need to be maintained. But so far, only tribals are the only ones with a direct interaction with it and that involves sacrifices. If the replicator was just a purely machine I would imagine that it would spit out replications in its exact location, but multiple islands and filled with dinosaurs and I don't see tribals transporting dinosaurs across multiple islands.
From what I gather the Replicator is the intelligence behind the system the Isle functions around. It possibly controls the mainframe on the islands that possibly encompasses bases, transmitters and Gateways. Perhaps areas such as the breeding areas for dinosaurs and tribals are largely automated and it can run them singlehandedly, and if there are multiple breeding areas then it can release it's creations at different points across the islands without needing to transport specimens, possibly?
I believe that the Replicator is another experiment gone wrong, before the dinosaurs. An island was designed to be automated so that the humans wouldn't need to manually maintain the test subjects (dinos and humans). This would have possibly required a learning AI so that it would automate itself and learn what the dinosaurs wanted. This, of course, led to it learning that if it did certain things, the tribals saw it as a divine act. The Replicator learned that it could manipulate the tribals, and the sacrifices could possibly be a test of devotion. Once it had gained enough power, it could lead the tribals to assault other emplacements. The mercenaries were deployed to discreetly take care of this matter so that Apollo Engineering didn't have to worry about being shut down.
The thing about that is that according to Dondi, everything is going to plan.
So any theory about something going wrong is moot. Whatever the Replicator is or does, it's doing it right.
@wicked belfry we don't know if everything is going according to plan for AE, the tribals, etc.
It could be going according to the Replicator's plan
I'm not saying it's gone wrong
Just taken the wrong path
I think the replicator is a device used by AE to gather information on what kind of specimens are running around on its little island. I think the tribals are forced to think that the replicator is a powerful being because of the fact that it rewards them for doing things it tells them to do. For example, sacrifices. This forms a trade off between the tribals and the replicator. The tribals drop whatever specimen the replicator asks for down the sacrificial pit then the replicator collects its data and sends it over to AE so they can continue their scientific research. This makes sacrifices big for tribals. But to make sure AE keeps on receiving data, they make it so the inhabitants are constantly giving specimen sacrifices by rewarding them with more power every time they sacrifice to the replicator (positive reinforcement). Making a continuous cycle of data for whatever AE needs it for.
if nothing has gone wrong as we have been told that means the replicator is doing its job normally
Not really relevant in a gameplay sense, but do you think that the tribals have their own language or names?
Likely
Spoken, most likely. Though written, prolly not.

maybe hrough growls and screams, having poor comunication and being socialy violent even between themselves
So what do people make of the Life Tree that Dondi mentioned in a recent stream?
yggdrasil
Okay so one thing, after reading the whole last 100 messages or so; does any of this data have a time stamp? Like, do we even have any kind of timeline for when all this is taking place? Any date mentions at all? Anything? Because I might be grasping at straws, but maybe none of the info is current. Maybe everything that happened on the ISLE, everything that is recorded and displayed on the incredibly overgrown-looking menu screen, all the experiments, successful or failed.... maybe it happened a long time ago. Maybe the replicator and the transmitter have been transmitting into nothingness. Maybe something happened outside the Isle, a company collapse or an experiment gone wrong, and this place was cut off. Maybe the mercenaries aren't from AE, they're from some organization that re-discovered the signals being transmitted, and followed them to the source....
This is my first time posting in this discussion, so forgive me if there's stuff I don't know. Or if someone has already come up with this one. Maybe it's because the game isn't complete yet, but everything about it gives off an abandoned feel. Maybe that transmitter feed on twitter is what someone, somewhere out in the rest of the oblivious world, suddenly picked up on. The stuff that comes through there would make anyone curious. (I could totally write a book off this!)
Actually, maybe I will. Anybody else wattpad?
Yeah here
//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012
Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.
Released July 23rd, 2018.
Replicate. https://t.co/IfNeR7PMJV
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1017235117528371200
<::Connection closed::>
“Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012
Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.
Released July 23rd, 2018.
Replicate. https://t.co/IfNeR7PMJV”
Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012
Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.
Released July 23rd, 2018.
Replicate. https://t.co/IfNeR7PMJV
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We can tell this all takes place in really modern times
Multiple dates that were not in past tense were also shown
We don't know if those are outdated, as in, outdated lore wise. They could've been sent some time ago and we only just got them @pastel path
But why would the Olympus transmitter wait so long to give information
That makes no sense
If we were no meant to have the info, then we just wouldn’t have got it
Deception?
There's a number of reasons. I'm just saying it's a possibility
You know info may be for the person who logged in and once we do, we will understand it possibly.


cool
Every single lore-hound just pooped a little with excitement.
Oh boy
WOO

Okay so those dates are modern, but what if the isle is based in the future?
Could be near future but yeah theres not much of a difference
Most of the technology in The Isle seems to be pretty grounded in reality, relatively speaking.

oh shit did not realize till now what Dondi said in here
OH BOY
Gets Theory Gear out of Closet It is time
hey, I dont know if this was known before or not, but I had just realized that the death text actually contains some very dark messages
I took a couple screenshots but they're not in the right resolution so give me a while to try to figure out how to enlarge the death text
I'm not sure if you can see properly, but the text on the bottom left sporadically shows a person 'screaming' in all caps in help, like he's in desperate pain
The text is extremely tiny and hidden and it took me a couple deaths to properly read. I didnt even notice it at first
oh ok it's been done before then
I know this was probobly pointed out before but I just noticed the words DREAM NOW SEEKING in the AE logo.
Isle confirmed for Matrix
Already found
I would hope so, it’s right there on the loading screen 😛
not sure if anyone has noticed this
during the loading screen when connected to a server, the CGAT wall of text has two hidden words above and below it: 'real' and 'fake'
so it's hiding a lot more...
o
ok
interesting
Maybe the new transmission means that the gen 2 dinosaurs have taken over and gen 1 is becoming extinct 
Gen 2 can mean a lot.
We have the multiple generation utahraptors.
the tribal generations
So what does this all mean?
that, is the key question
can even meet the temporary removal of dinos to test tribals only or as said new models, or even a new dinosaur or strain added, or something, is really up to a vast range of speculation
Kinda feel it'd be more likely to be the Tribals.
From what dondi told us about tribal progression.
i really hopw they remove dinosaurs to test them correctly
I suspect tribal generations get less and less human.
so a gen 2 tribal would be far less human than a gen 1.
you start as an ugly mayan and become a fatstard brawler that uses chainsaws, i love it, but if i recall Mr.D said that the chainsaw was a no no
don't ponder that yet.
We haven't gotten a target for the Generation Two
we can only exclude the animals we know have gone past a generation 2
from there on, it can be anything
Me thinks this is a new creature
maybe Tisso, unless its been removed, wich i doubt from the quick images at the start with still the first concept of TT
I found this
So could be the new tisso, new cannibal style creatures, new creatures all together
i think cannibals had the ability to specialisation evolution in wich they would develop diferent mouths and stuff depending on its habits
just saying don't say neotenic strain unless you want giant babies everywhere
guys cmon, wait for the next tweet.
while the tisso, well the tisso has been left in the dark since the begining, theres no official concept of it, in any route
Other than that one
The really old one
Like the one that’s older than time itself to the point where it’s not even credible
Come on dondi
Slide us a lil piece
Quid pro QUo, we give Mr. D something, he gives us something
either a stream or a retweet, cant think outside from those ones
The tease strikes again
A single pixel is all I ask
Maybe two pixels ?
maybe only a short answer, one pin only....
Wait until he's ready boiw
Oooowwwwooooo
We'll probably get some tease in a stream soon...ish
or he'll keep it a complete secret 'till its fully ready
It frustrates me knowing that we actually think we know something
But in reality dondi has an entire ocean of stuff hidden from us
Gotta make people wait for it. Builds more hype and you'll appreciate whatever is released more
indeed
I’m happy with whatever in all honesty the new sucho looks bad ass
Other channel fam
But ehh maybe I should take this to discussion
patience is an apetizer that inroduces you to a hole new flavor of awesomeness
Yea that ^
Yes soir
We think we know so much by what we have
But dondi is just sitting there with an entire ocean of lore hidden from us
we dont know even the bird on top of the iceberg
We are dipping our toes in a puddle
i think the only person that has an almost full lore knolage is T.wing
Dripping from a entire ocean
Back on topic, I wonder if we're going to see a sort of 'neoform' similar to that of the alien franchise. Maybe some kind of new hybrid of dinosaur and human that has been perfected. Or maybe it's a perfected hybrid of a human and one of the strains
or maybe an early stage of the strain?
ive been thinking on doing a fanart about that, but my worst enemy is time
But I think that would be more lore integrated. Could be wrong though
Anything a a possibility at this point haha
Lol just scrolled up and realised that possibilty was already said lol
Mkay 👀

So is nobody discussing the whole 'Neo' thing?
My mind went straight to Neomorphs but that wouldn't make sense in terms of lore

Use your noggin
I was thinking along the lines of neuros
cause they're sort of similar to neomorphs in terms of appearance
but again
do not say neotenic
eh
novaraptor
Can't say i didn't think about that, but let's keep it serious
Keep it serious.
It kinda was
A new patch is a possibility
An entire transmission on just the prefix neo isnt much to go off of
They wouldn't tell us a new update is coming out like that, it'd be posted from the isle's twitter and be way less vague. This is likely the start of a new series of consecutive transmissions
This means nothing, for now
Probably
Rip
*You know it might just be a definition and that is it.
So I have a theory here. So I saw something someone posted showing how in the corner of the dying screen, it said "HELP." Now what I think is the story to The Isle, let me explain. A&E make dinosaurs and begin to mass produce them. Then one by one everything goes wrong and the plan stops. The send a beacon for help A.K.A, the "HELP" we saw. That calls mercenaries to the island to get money. "But Grubuu, what about the tribal class?" They my friend are the original inhabitants of the island, now having to adjust to the new life. Again, thank you to whoever found the "HELP" in the corner, this really helped this through. Wow, I look like MatPat.
A&E
Ok, I found who did it, thank you to Shockal for getting the images!
I think the Replicator could be a lifeform itself or a mixture of life/synthetic life and machine. The replicator has the power to make life including neurotenic strains. Neurotenic strains have the power to manipulate their environments with telekinetic abilities. If neurotenic strains have these abilities and are purely organic, I don't think the replicator would purely depend on machinery to accomplish its mission.
👀
I'm assuming we'll be introduced to major human characters
Dondi's saying this was "the best he could do", and we know he's been seeking some actors for some of the characters
So I would think he's gotten someone well known for voice acting and we'll hear the results of said efforts soon
The transmissions likely some story related element
👀
Didn't Dondi say that they'll be remodeling the cannibal since it already looks very outdated compared to the recent stuff we've been getting?
so I'm assuming the 'neomorphs' will be the updated cannibals.
or maybe 'neomorph' just refers to "gen 2" creatures in general - IE remodeled dinos and etc.
New cannibal
Who the fuck would take those and make them 2.0
Like if in the lore the older model cannibal is 1.0 and the new model's becoming 2.0 who even did the upgrade
Anyone else think the phrase "the mind of a profile in a dinosaur." and the tech jargon upon logging into a server "cortex corruption within normal levels" means anything fancy? We know that we are the profiles, but are the profiles actually human? By what tech can a human mind inhabit the mind of another creature?
Just curious if anyone else was thinking about that.
there is a lab in the uk where they succeeded in mind-control, sort of
so idk maybe its a similar thing like you say humans could be controlling the animals using that kind of tech, sending directions from a human brain to the creatures body
Well mind control isn’t exactly new
Just inject some hormone into an animal
Hormone does what it’s meant to do
But in terms of THAT type of mind control that’s impressive
And it wouldn’t surprise me if Apollo had that technology up their sleeve
possible.
^
but then you also need the ability to send signals from the dinosaurs back onto the human
seeing as it looks like they feel pain.
what if its a matrix deal?
we know the AI or whatever is the one making the creatures, what if it trapped the people controlling stuff
trapped, unlikely.
dondi did say that ''everything was going all acording to plan''
so the replicator is doing its job as intended.
🤔
It might be the people controlling the dinosaurs are either volunteers or were paid.
idk how to argue for which one of these since we don't have that much information available to us.
there might be a third or fourth possible reasons.
Or they were forced to
Or they took prisoners and stuff, like the dclass in scp lore
or the minds were replicated
neuros are all blind from what ive seen, maybe the cannibal ( the blind thing with the wierd legs) is a neuro human
If they were neuro humans one would expect them to be more jellyfish like
Like echidna
wut
that too
Plus something eyeless doesn’t mean it’s a neuro
Ahh
Maybe the cannibals don’t need eyes
nice swole brain
maybe tissos?
Hol up
But we don’t know for sure if the reaper will be a thing
and before you say, there is also a hypo human
That’s ancient concept art
the colossus?
Dondi was asked if he would be adding the monsters like that in the game on stream
He said “probably not, but I can’t say for sure”
so like, with the strain stuff is it like a virus maybe?
very cliche but sure
We don’t know that
Let’s not make assumptions
I bet the strains came from the plants don was taking about
that could explain the mutant looking dudes then, they've been eating contaminated meat
yeah that
He said that there are plants that are made from the same strains
And some will change you
he said same kind of shit that makes strains though iirc.
That’s a no brainer
How are they gonna change you
If they are the same stuff that makes the strains
i'll try find clip

It’s obvious the plants will do something strain related to you at least
Because,
Mutated plants
Changing you
Come on
i thought the plants were just gonna be an enviromental hazard
Some will
🤷
Based off of what dondi said
@tribal trench as he assumes succ will be able to be faster than giga and shoot lasers out out his eyes XD
what
But we just don’t know for sure
We do know what the dondiddles said
So that’s pretty much something to hang on to
All I want is elder dinos, survive as a trike (or any dino) for a certain amount of time after hitting adult phase and your skin, frill, and horns change a little in appearance
Didn’t dondi hint at it, in a steam sometime last year?
Ahh kk 😂
@pastel path I'm pretty sure Colossus is being/has been moddeled, we had some sneak-peaks some time back. Then again it wasn't exactly confirmed to be the big boi ( atleast not to my knowledge ) but I'm fairly certain he does plan to bring all the trio strain " personnification " ( for a lack of a better term ). It's pretty sure they're part of the lore, how they'd function in game is another mystery
Probably is. Behind our backs
No we got a face shot of it. Or a snip of its face i believe or whatever that creature is.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401469622659973120/435590029864206336/unknown.png
Thicc
looks like godzilla if he was THICC
Hey its that smash bros character.
Waluigi?

What is that
big human H
Are the dinosaurs in this game man made or dinosaurs that surivived on a island 
ok
wait I forgot, it was explicitly said a while ago that the dinosaurs arent real.
They're definitely not the real dinosaurs
Pretty sure it has been said by a dev that they're man made
Does anyone have a theory about where the isle takes place it would be fun to know if anyone had a theory about it
I mean, I have a theory about a troll, but that is for A: #401470471750811669 and B: not worth the effort.
I think it takes place in the future but not, way way into the future o3o
i ment in wich country
;w; o
"which country"
probably in the middle of the ocean
or in a simulation. Elon was right.
So since primal carnage and the isle don't have a deal anymore does that mean we don't have such a good story now
I don't think it is a simulation because that would honestly be such a bad ending to the isle
nah I really doubt that, feels like too much of an easy cop out to a story
yeh
We do know that AE exists since before 2018.
Think less linear when I say simulation
Simulations don't have to be games inside a computer

Simulations can be much larger experimental procedures that in actuality are very real
Yeh but i think it still would be a boring ending to such a good game and story
again its more of a cop out than anything
Again. Apply the term more out of the box than what it literally is.




