#isle-lore-theories
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Again, that's pretty clear.
We know it was made.
We know for a fact that it was an improvement upon something.
and how do you know that
That something being Type-H creatures.
Hold on, didn't isle twitter say something about forced evolution
ayy that might be it
Magnatyrannus being an improved version of type-H was heavily implied when Dondi reacted to someone's theory as if they were on to it.
You could take "heavily implied" with as light a grain of salt as you want but my point still stands.
I'm pretty sure the difference is that strains are made (an individual transforms into one via forced evolution) while magnas are born/replicated the way they are.
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It's been kinda obvious
Things can be modified before birth or however the birds and bees work in the Isle.
probably a petree dish or however you spell it
Magna rex isn't a rex, though
isnt it derived from a rex
Proof? 
Don't just assume it's a strain because people here call it magna rex
Its name suggests that it's a separate genus
It's a solus
ok.. so what if the replicator that makes the dinos (dunno-), to make tisso,neuro,hypo and magna strains uses different types of simulations? as in, to create a hypo, it makes the rexes' environment and prey much tougher, making it have to evolve to become stronger and faster? to create tisso, making the rexes' environment and prey less stealthy so it had to evolve to get better camo? (examples), and for magna rex, they could've just played out the exact same environment from millions of years ago that the rex already had. (this all being if they simulated the evolution process in fast speed, in a computer or something)
I don't see the word rex
Also, @placid harness , what if Dondi was replying to the rest of the idea and not that specific tidbit?
opinions pls
Doubt
Forgot to post it.
I guess its that hard to believe that a Magna is an improvement.
I believe it is
I don't believe that magna is an improved hypo
Hypo is an efficient weapon but it is a pain in the ass to keep alive
It might play that way
Not explicitly an improved strain but an improved idea.
Magna can technically live as efficiently as all the others
It was called a normal dinosaur
we have nothing with the lore suggesting it's an improved hypo
Not exactly an improved hypo, just a rex modified in a similiar manner but in a way that it doesnt starve too quickly
In short, magna is a better animal, hypo is a better weapon
Can't be too sure though
I think it's not
Even the model is called "magnatyrannus_adult"
While the hypo is just "tyrannosaurus_hypo" or something similiar
Since it also is a normal dinosaur I'm heavily leaning towards the idea that it can nest, grow and everything
ehhh, maybe it can nest lore-wise but I don't think that'd be cool gameplay wise.
It would probably take way more than a rex does to grow too
Considering how bigger and stronger it gets
"way more" is an understatement
Or maybe a new strain
@drifting night bring me the facts
there is 0 evidence magna is a strain
bring me the screenshots or twitch clips, if you will
They made the hypo first, but as said above their problem is hunger and that they're a pain in the ass to keep alive. So they made a new strain to perfect the current hypo strain to be less demanding and more natural. It keeps the armor side with the crocodile back, and keeps the strength of the hypos as seen when it killed one. Plus, making it smaller problaly makes it easier to hunt or whatever it does.
by that logic since there is 0 evidence of dragons existing, then I have to have evidence of them not existing??
@drifting night you have yet given me proof magna is a strain
i don't see the "obvious" in this.
You're annoying aren't you, just have some imagination. Never said it was a strain either.
Literally right infront of you
aw thank you, that's what I like, debating with someone and them calling me annoying ❤
you're making bold claims. "they made the hypo first but their problem is hunger so they made a new strain"
Why not? That's what people seem to agree with above
because you've got no proof, or confirmation of it
It would make sense.
just saying its 100% or super obvious, doesn't make it true
Usually does
You're making the claim, you have the burden of proof @drifting night
Wtf that's not even close to what I said
It's sad how everyone tries to rip into each other in this channel.
"imagination"
Why would I need to have imagination for a claim about an actual theory that has proof behind it?
It's like if you don't have a stream clip or a quote from the Dondi Guide to the Galaxy your theory is null.
It's almost like that's how a theory is proven
I don't see whats hard to understand
I can't handle the sarcasm on this discord
Seriously. ^
That doesn't seem like theories 🤔
Omg 😂

The topic is theories. Try again.
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It's just a theory. An Isle theory.
the strains are strains. They are made. The magna is the "life finds a way" kind of thing. It's nature's response to the hypo. At least that's what i remember from a long while ago
We dont know what magnas are but good guess
I only really remember someone saying the Magna was an hybrid, with lots of animals DNA, crocodile DNA and whatnot. Same for the magna Utah with komodo DNA iirc ? I'm pretty sure those two arnt exactly a " natural " response to strains. Rather upgraded versions of Dino's, that's my take on it
@gloomy wave komodo dragon and pit viper dna I believe
Yeah
For the raptor anyway
Perhaps they're like an " upgrade " you unlock after some requirement are fulfilled ?
That's how I imagine it
No I don't believe so but it's a good idea
A lot of people think you will instantly be mutated from this dna stuff, I'm thinking that it'll be a gradual thing from some things you do in game that effect the end result.
I believe the strains are instant in some way
But as mentioned earlier the magna Rex is named " Magna_adult " or watnot
Hence my theory
Not talking lore, theorizing gameplay
What you're called won't affect the gameplay at all XD
It does in some way. If the magna model ATM is called " Adult " it implies ( not confirms ) that there are multiple stages
Hence my theory, again
I actually have a thought running through my head from that when it comes to the tyrannosaurus In the Isle at the moment.
What if a small percentage of the trex players have the gene/mutation of hyperendocrine or the magna gene when they start off and mutate over time?
Eventually becoming these hulking beasts.
Because nowhere in the lore does it state any of the hatchlings you start out with are natural. What if every single one you've been playing as has been released into the general populace from the labs/facility after being hatched.
Only a small number of these animals would have the gene and it would take time to alter their dna, during this time they would be monitored by the facility and the AE scientists on how to "perfect" or better their creations to last longer and be more effective for the means that they are bring bred for.
It would explain the difference in names and why they almost pop out of nowhere
Instead of consuming the flesh or getting infected by some virus. The changes would be gradual until they hit the adolescent stage when the hormones in their bodies pushed the mutation to work faster. The magna is the better working and more natural of the two and doesn't need to constantly eat to survive. While the hyper is constantly having to fuel it's changing body but can never have enough because it's mutation is flawed and it's growth gene won't stop producing the hormones.
I don't think that's how it'll go. But its a nice theory.
First off its based a lot on chance in and on itself, gameplay and lore wise it doesn't make sense
Second I don't think we know enough about the lore to make theories about how strains or magnas are made specifically
And my last comment is I remember Dondi speaking about a " transformation " animation for strains, I'd suppose then it'd be an instant thing. I think magmas could make sense in some way that way, but I'm pretty sure strain as a whole are instantaneous
That transformation animation I believe was in reference to the actual strain harbingers. The collosus the reaper and the echidna
And there is actual backing to my theory as well.
There is the monitor system we see when we die. That is an indication that we are being monitored obviously.
But the way that these monsters just pop out of nowhere either suggests that they are dropped in from somewhere. Escaped from somewhere. Or were in hiding and they needed to come out to fuel themselves.
For all we know they could be released from the facility fully grown and used as field tests for future generations.
But I quite like my theory so until something new comes up to counteract that, then that's what I'm sticking with.
Seems good, but what do you mean the harbringer ? I'm pretty sure we wouldn't see them transform
Whoever said that there was only one of each type.
The harbingers as I call them are the 3 beasts. The reaper the collosus and the echidna.
I think they are able to effect human dna with either a parasite or via implanting their dna in them somehow. Maybe through the air or via a transfer of bodily fluids like blood or venom I don't know but, I believe the transformation is for the humans infected by these things.
We know for a fact there are multiple reapers
We know there on colossus, that escaped / got his files scrapped
There "were" multiple reapers
And then echidna is a bit mysterious
Nothing said there " not multiple reapers " anymore, or did I miss something saying that ?
Well there wasn't solid proof saying there were multiple either.
I think if there were multiple reapers that they would have been terminated as it were
Perfected the " reaperisation " ( Idk a they called it ) and stuff
And then it said " 12 reapers alive "
Not in the loading but
No. There wasnt
I'm 100% sure it was somewhere
Nowhere had it ever said that. I'm quite positive on that
Its prolly somewhere on the lore site
Its not 12 reapers.
There is no lore site
In pinned
There's only find the Isle and the old wiki which is outdated
12 Active Specimens.
Which could be anything not just reapers
Though it very likely it is reapers.
They could be in reference to creatures infected by its strain
I mean the doc
Not the specimen
@supple dome This one right here was my favorite User Inquiry: User Inquiry: ReaperTissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.Initial results proved fatal.Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.There are 12 active specimens.
( copy pasted from earlier talk ) that's what im talking about
Seems to be in the console stream
So I was right saying it wasn't a reaper but something infected by it
12 people infected by implanted reaper flesh. Not a reaper but something more.
Its a bit of a stretch in my opinion but I suppose it could be that
It literally says it in that log.
It's in black and white right there for you to see.
They failed once after implanting the reaper flesh into a human host.
Then Dr vega perfected it and as of September 7th 2004 there are 12 live human specimens infected with reaper flesh
I think its lost in formatting
User Inquiry: User Inquiry: ReaperTissoplastic
regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.Initial results proved fatal.Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.There are 12 active specimens.
Not really. It obvious if you read it right.
It doesn't say " reaper tissue placed in human "
It says " regenerative tissue placed in human "
The ReaperTissoplastic is the inquiry
Not part of the explanation
ReaperTissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.
It isn't from anywhere else. Have some damn sense and think rather than being dull
I'll get you a screen of it
It's right there for you to see yet you don't accept it
I was bloody there in the damn stream I don't need to see a screenshot ffs
Okay so
Calm down first off
And second of, its not " Reaper " tissue but " Tissoplastic " tissue, here's the inquiry
So here's my take on it
Keep in mind I have no idea what tissplastic means BTW
The user asked about reapers, the console showed that the reapers are humans infected with tissoplastic tissue. So it either means : A. Its like you said and its in fact a tissue of a reaper
B. Its not a reaper, but something else or something made, which in turn created the reapers
Tissoplastic is the strain that infected a human host through an unknown means. Most likely pure dna modification through insemination.
But the reaper is the name of the projinator of the strain.
The first to be infected/made
The true reaper. As it were.
We don't know if that's the case
Nothing pointing to the fact there's one individual they just keep, getting tissue from
You also don't know if there is any more reapers but we do know that there are 12 more humans infected with reaper flesh thanks to that user enquiry
12 more humans with reaper flesh that could have mutated them unto reapers them self, we don't really know either way and that's why I said we don't know enough to theorize how strains ( dino and humans ) are made
I don't think they are reapers from that. I think they may be mutated in some way like the cannibals were but in a more mental than physical way.
Or ! Or, they're like " superhumans " with regenerative abilities
yeah its a bit broad atm
Mhm
Actually that'd be a nice theory
Military uses
Imagine the mercenary earning " perks " by using tissues abandoned through the facilities on the island, with an off-chance if it doing something bad to you
Could some one explain to me some Theories or like the story behind the Isle, i really wonder what it is like. please DM me or @ me Thanks for th information i appreciate it!
thank you very much @tribal trench
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To all of you who said the person who logged in was bullshit or whatever
Apparently there's someone who's good at it
I guess we gotta break out Clue and figure it out the old fashioned way
It plays favorites, it's probably one of these fancy colored names
hmmm
and there went the theories that everything went to hell for AE on accident
khorne I've got my eyes on you
The next level?
When I heard Next Level I instantly thought of
Getting past the gateway
The Hotel and Resort is for when they probably bring investors
Or family
Make them feel at home
With how DANGEROUS this island is
It can not be a park
I am too overwhelmed atm
The war he is referring to makes me think of Lost
The mercs who came onto the island forced to fight against the people or creatures that were originally there (Tribals)
We've established that the tribals aren't really people, though
Very true
I think imma wait a hour or two before I truly start theorizing
Give my mind some time to process all the information
New theory: what we once called cannibals are juvenile colossi
Came up with this looking at their foot structure and how similar it is
Almost exactly the same
doubt it
What he just said with them having to be specifically bred and shit I think I have a idea.
This solidifies cannibals not being a strain we know of for me
It says it’s not correct to call it a dinosaur
Once again dudes. Tinfoil hat time. SO.
I'll start off by saying these are my own thoughts about various things that Dondi just released on stream, and I'm always open to suggestions as to what others think. But it seems pretty obvious now, that this fifteenth cycle, is in fact the final stage for these tribals. Whatever they transform into it must be some kind of spectacle, as by the fifteenth cycle, 'stories were passed down through generations' What if these stories change over time, and contain different ways of sacrificing yourself to the replicator. And if you are sacrificed to the replicator, are there ways of being sacrificed that can change the outcome of a replication cycle. Obviously the Replicator has an interest in keeping the human aspect of things, hence the human forms of the Reaper, Echidna and Colossus. Maybe this is because the human form can be pushed to a massive extent. OR. It wants to keep an aspect of the human form for a specific reason... All in all, I don't think AE entirely know what is going on.
I think they have a huge part in making the strains. But I don't think they actually created the material needed to mutate DNA. What we know as the strains. I think that material was already on the island, and AE found a way of cultivating it. Which is why they are using these strains on dino's and as we now know, plants. I also think that these strains are symbiotic in nature. So they have to have a living host to survive, and once they have combined with the host, they enhance the host's body. But what if AE have only just figured out how to properly use these strains. If that's the case, then maybe the Hypo's, Nuero's and Tisso's are AE learning how to use these strains, and the Magna is a more 'perfected' version of whatever AE has managed to learn and cultivate through their failures. Maybe they learnt this info from drawings, texts or even samples from tribal camps, seeing as tribals seem to know what's up.
I could be completely off base. But that's what my brain shat out when I managed to process some of the info Dondi gave us haha
ohgod thats alot to read
I know :/
I read through it but I don't think I can remember a lot of what you said
One thing that jumps out at me, though
Or maybe AE made it that way
I don't think the tribals were natives to the island
Oh I think AE tried to make the smartest AI they possibly could. But maybe they made it too smart
OR they made it too smart on purpose
If the replicator is ai then the tribals would have to have come about later, right?
No I don't think they where native either
Maybe they came over hundreds or thousands of yeaars ago
That would be pretty damn native
would fail to explain why they're so fucked and so dedicated to the replicator
True^^
makes sense
If you are a primitive species
And this gigantic machine or something beyond ur imaginable power comes along
I don't think the tribals were here before AE
You are going to worship it or be scared of it
Maybe they saw what it can do
I still think the tribals were created by AE indirectly or something
Could be a story of how one got picked by the replicator
I seriously don't think the tribals are any native group that was there before AE
I think that the Replicator created them
So
about the island itself
what in shit happened on it
obviously not a park
maybe research island
seems too easy though
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The restricted area on the map probably has to do with some crazy ass collossal type creatures
why else would they put it in somewhere with massive natural barriers and why else would there be tribal warnings on the outside
and a giant corpse thats already there
Maybe it's something like a research and experimentation island disguised as some kind of park?
idk
can't think of why there would be monorails and a visitor entrance or whatever
etc.
Maybe because you need a way to enter onto the island and a way to quickly move from place to place?
These things aren't limited to a park
True
But why would it say "visitor"
unless if it's just generally a name for something like that
I'd imagine the restricted zone is where the fucked up stuff in the redwoods are
Looks like that strain plant just like
bursted out of a normal one
because the bottom looks natural
and the rest has that metallic kind of look
Also when dondi mentioned the plants
he mentioned plants that could melt you
Acidic sap or something?
Tissoplastic flora?
Guys, what if the 15th cycle thing refers to "leveling up" or "getting to the next level" in that ritual temple building thing?
Also, don said everything went according to plan, ae didn't mess up
Does make you wonder
cause it is obvious now AE never went away
It is still a active thing going on as we play
What is their end goal?
Damn I am surprised this chat aint blowing up right now
same here like holy fuk
also
with the whole tribals being cannibals thing
I fukkin called it
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so how do we call "cannibals" now
we dont, they are now one in the same OWO
Well sort of...
well yeah
am i reading things wrong but dondi said "the things on the right are a separate entity"
@covert chasm You are right.
so they're not cannibals or am i a tard
I have a feeling they a type of Cannibal like a strain..
idk "separate entity" to me sounds like dondi played us like a fiddle and the no-eyed fucks were never really cannibals
Well they are refered to as Cannibals so it is still safe to call them cannibals.... But, Tribals and Cannibals are the same thing.
maybe you have to do a sacrifice to become a cannibal
"a certain method of unlocking that will never ever ever happen"
hmmm this last stream was pretty intresting
Cannibals are clearly not cannibals anymore
He suggested that that wasn't the case
so I kinda thought up a theory that maybe humans are maybe going extinct
and the replicator was an Ai that was meant to give humans immortality,
so basically it preserves their memories and put it into a new body
why would the humans be going extinct though
the only way i could see that happening is something like metro 2033 where there's a war that kills most humans and the government creates a new race dinosaurs/dark ones to continue sapient life on the planet
i doubt humans all suddenly got sick with ligma and started dying
no
The only proof for this theory that I can see is that the replicator replicates
maybe it's not a deases
more of an extinction event
like the metior
that hit the dinosaurs
Who would've been around to build the replicator, then?
But you just said it was a mass extinction event like a meteor
If we didn't nuke it before it reached us it clearly must have caught us by surprise
An extinction even that will occur, humans try to prepare
Which means there would've been no time to prepare
good point
thats reasonable but why would the first plan for an extinction event be dinosaurs
well i had that thought
that maybe by bringing back what was extinct
and perfecting it in a controlled envirnoment
will give humans the edge to evolve in one way or another
because why would there be a war
why create monsters
with those huge containers
How does any of this translate to extinction event?
maybe the replicator has a mind of it's own
I think it does.
is it a computer?
I'd be unsurprised if it were a sapient ai
clearly replicator and samuel hayden are the same character
Still don't understand how any of this proves extinction event
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oh no at this point I abandoned my previous thought
as it clearly has holes in it
I am trying to construct some sort of....... list of ideas
we know that the four most important things are the replicator, the gateway, the island, and the owner
We do?
I mean they seem to be the main focus
I'd agree with the replicator being very important
but the rest we don't really know much about
Source?
Pretty sure gateway isn't a who..
I know there was something that only two people knew on stream
I don't think Gateway was it
Dondi and Tap only know what Gateway is, Pretty sure that is it. Only 2 people in the world who know what it is.
Again, are you sure it was gateway?
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Yeah.
it was
I'n sure it was gateway.
I'm pretty sure it was a different thing that was only known by two people
Was really early on in the reveals
Might've been the plants themselves, feels like it was something after it
it was actually revealed on Stream, Dondi went afk for a while before he showed it off
Do you mean the person or who ever was logged in was aware of the connection between tribals and cannibals?
then he mentioned gateway and tap
Clip
yeah right
Herp will get you clip rn
I don't have the vod, I can't watch it
Just have to find it first sadly.
sme
Seems like it was just before the tribal reveal
hmm
I also don't think he referenced the Gateway as much as you two think he did
He skipped over something that sounded like it was similar to Gateway though
I can't clip wtf
I do know that they never say what Tapwing got right, though
no he says that she knows more about the game and the lore more than anyone
Yeah, that isn't specifically Gateway
wait
ok then he says that he is gonna make some shit happen just like fortnite but it will happen every where at once
That also isn't Gateway itself
wait
i know
i am just describing what don is saying
tap is the only one that knows anything about the story
some one said maybe she knows what the Gateway is
he replies Tapwing knows what the gateway is.
Dondi did say that Herp.
she is the only one in the world other than himself that knows what the gateway is
Dondi said on the stream that besides himself, tapwing is the only one that knows what the gateway is, and likely many other important lore stuff as well
but here is the thing
she knew all that stuff before she became a dev
because he was speaking in the past when she used to send him art
tbh if you look at the concept art dondi showed in this stream most of it reminds me of tapwing's art
well, not most of it, but many of them
all bodies are created equal
all profiles are not
the better the profile
the better the body
and the relationship between the tribals and the replicator is symbiotic
I wonder if it is possible increase or do something to your body to make your profile better...
probably a thing you can do.
so you are supposed to fulfill tasks as a tribal for the repliactor
so it can collect data
once done it favors the ones with the better profile
gives them "benefits"
I bet the strains come from there
Some strains like Hyper aren't really a benefit..
can we trust what dondi says anymore
because he hid the fact that the cannibals are something else
I feel like once they are done with their life and have achieve everything they were required then they are reborn or reincarnated, The Replicator will determine if they were more useful then others and grant them something better for example a better profile or more knowledge.
No.
It would make sense if the Replicator is an AI.
are not as equally beneficial to the tribal than it is to the replicator
and again where does dinosaurs fit into all of this?
what is in the restricted area
What if the replicator is a player?
...that is highly unlikely.
Something lore related like echidna
Well for all we know its superior to everything on the island
Unless dondi said something otherwise and i missed it
its superior to everything, but it doesn't need to be in strength.
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Maybe were overlooking it
For all we know the replicator could be the screen were we choose the dino we want to spawn in as
it could be superior simply for the fact that it has control over everything
Do we know that for sure?
it was hinted at considerably
If so why would it have a sybaotic relationship with the tribals
I actually think the spawn menu could be the replicator. If you think about it, since it has ‘control’ over everything, itll limit stuff given to us. And if you look at the difference between dev spawn menus and player spawn menus, the dev spawn menu obviously has more dinos in it. Where as you can say the players spawn menus are more ‘controlled’ in what dinos are put in it. Now lets go back to when dondi said the replicator favors the more smart profiles on the island. If you connect the dots, you can see dondi and the other devs have alot more dinos in its list. To me this could seem like the replicator picked the devs as its favorites. Now i know that sounds stupid and unheard of because of the fact the devs need to test out all the dinos for bugs and stuff, but if you think about it, it technically makes sense
Probably the same comparison between a person and its dog.
you teach the dog to do what you want it to do.
Sorry long ass paragraph, hopefully you guys see what im trying to say
and it will do it in order to recieve a reward.
yet you are always superior to the dog.
Exactly
tribals worship the replicator
Are you ?
I mean probably
Ok so lets say that the relationship was tilted in the favor of the replicator
What does it need if it’s in control
Maybe
We just need to figure the relationship between the gateway the replicator and the owner
What’s his face
Dr.vega and his companion
And to understand the game
We must base facts
Meaning we cannot conclude the purpose or reason
With out knowing the function of each of the gateway and the replicator
And we also need to know
What the island is?
Is it a research facility
A military base
And finally we need to figure out why there are enormous fucking monsters roaming the island.
So what was said in the stream specifically?
Quite a lot.
Tribals are cannibals and you’ll be able to gain favor of the replicator by completing things that it wants you to do and by sacrifices. You can sacrifice anyone even if they’re not willing and after you die if you gained enough affinity (I believe) you’ll become something stronger.
There will also be man-eating plants that can also ‘change you’
Dondi also stated that in the lore that ‘everything is going to plan’ so there goes that theory for everything going to shit.
Megalodon and Mosasaurus’ were also confirmed as well as holding and testing facilities in the water.
There’s clips on twitch if you want things in a detailed manner.
Not a Park Confirmed
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Thanks
Btw tribals turn into cannibals it would make sense that the shrines and statues devoted to the cannibals were made by tribals who maybe view them as divine entities or whatnot
They may worship them or try to appease them
The shrines are for the Replicator so that it will favor them.
Cannibals ARE tribals
I see
Cannibals are tribals yes, doesn't mean they arnt worshipped in turn
They may be something " above " tribals
Something like the " ultimate tribal "
What is Replicator? A machine with AI that creates dinosaurs?
Basically
It creates dinos, implants human consciousness to them
And also replicates tribals
With each death a quote unquote " stronger " version is made
thx. That's why tribals worshipping it.
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I saw a lot of baseless speculation from after I left
Trying to connect this "the owner" character that we have no proof actually exists
That does seem useless honestly.
So say your a full adult rex all grown, and then you get sacrificed and die.
Would you respawn as a hypo?
Who knows.
its going to be a lot harder than that to get a strain
Magna is the most perfected form of a dino still correct?
It was a failed attempt at creating it: B433
Growth Facility For Project All-Father
Project All-Father: Apollo Engineering’s first attempt at creating the perfect organism.
Free of Project Tampering
Project Status: Failed
Project probably succeeded once khorne replicated it
Ah yes i remember that
emphasis on "Free of Project Tampering "
I believe Project was misplaced with genetic
Free of project tampering..
That could mean it was successful because no one tampered with it
Right?
Nah
Console most definitely said Free of Genetic Tampering
The magna?
ye,regarding magna
I am still confused about gateway
Does it let things in and out
Does it make stuff
If anyone want to check by themselves,you can download the stream recording : https://www.dropbox.com/s/imhhulghcabpo4k/TheIsle-AEStream-Transmissions.rar?dl=0 (From taterfii's old website) and jump at the 14:00 mark
So the tribals are more like orcs or very similar things
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So maybe AE takes place around the 1930s
Or well the time period we play the game in
Maybe that's a better design for a different situation?
Perhaps that design is an easier radio tower to build?
maybe its not as easy to destroy or has some implications in physics or telecomunications and wave frequencies
(why are there houses in the background, if a hypo rex is there?)
maybe they are either abandoned or theres a perimetter you cant see
also the tower, could there be a connection to Blaw knox?
aparently the way it radiates is developed to reduce fading
still the way the antena is build, it suggests it was build around 1930s, as how theres a simetry with between the top half and the buttom half
I assumed the tower itself was a different photo
It seems like it's mainly there for scale with the hyper
methinks they are a radio jamming type thing
It diffidently serves a different purpose then the radio towers we have found on Thenyaw and V3
i wonder about the mental state of the tribals
So I reckon as a Tribal/Cannibal, you have your tasks or quests that the replicator gives you, and once you've completed them all you sacrifice yourself in a temple, and you go to the next phase, where maybe you have some better perks or something like that, perhaps you also get gradually less human-looking as time goes on.
especially as they progress
And by the 15th phase something special happens
Nobody is mentioning the connection to hades, poseidon
I think the replicator creates the things we know as echidna and Colossus
Perhaps unlocking something that would give you a big advantage, but it would take a long time to unlock since you have to do 15 lots of quests?
4 types imo
I though Echinda was the neuro version of a human?
I think we're thinking of things too specifically
Sacrificing and asking for different things might get you some different bodies maybe
I think there's more than just magnas, neuros, tissos, and hypers
There's definitely different fuglys present beyond them now
Oh wait a minute
I just noticed
maybe the tribals have been on the island longer than any mercs
And remember each entity that AE creates doesn't have to fall into a H/T/N/M classification, they can be their own mismatch of genes
I really don't think the tribals were here before the mercs anymore
any reason?
Depends what you mean by mercs
because i think the humans came here and experimented on tissues gained from what the tribals create or what the replicator creates using the things the tribals give it
never stated what kind of machine it is
i belive tribals become less and less human
my question is what these temples come from
The same way humans have got to any other island
and why the replicator needs said temples to consume
why not something different
and how does it output its creations
I think the tribals are normal humans that got fucked in some way
Maybe AE got some Class D personnel of their own
Just take people out of prisons for experimentation
probably by an ancient civilization or something, maybe even with the passing generations of tribals, they became more feral, but at the same time tryied to find an explanation of why were they in the isle, but heres a bigger question, are all beings on the isle a reencarnation of the original tests? or is just a select grouped hosen by the replicator to be able to reincarnate in whatever they evolve too
i doubt its ancient
me too, i think it was built by the tribals themselves, but it changed its purpuse the more inhuman these tribals became
I wonder about the replicator
carbon life or a non carbon creature created by humans
constantly reincarnating itself and learning
Remember there are no mistakes and that everything is according to plan...
bothe the mind recoverty and incepton are quite intriguing, the bodies are probably clones or some shit like that, but the mind transfer, thats the intriguing part
mayybe not perfect, but the direct evolution of mankind by force, analysing every posible case scenraio
Loose wires attached to another thing give the other thing power
Same id assume for minds
Every imperfection is in someway what the company or replicator wanted...
Probably the replicator
Or it wouldnt kill everything overseeing it
it would be using the people who created it to further its "plan"
Instead its using tribals
Of which could definitely be the people who created it
for what Mr.D said, everything is done with a purpuse, everything is planned, there are no mistakes whatsoever, if a facility falls to a group of tribals, or a Hypo breaks loose and destroys a camp or stations, its all part of the bigger plan, there are no mistakes, everything is going accordingly to plan....
everything on the isle feeds the replicator
i guess thats #1 of the plan
the more information it has the further the plan gets
why i dont get, is if the finnal purpuse of your being is to actually escape the isle or not
so you just become better and better and then what?
im talking from the perspecitve of well, us
artists use any means to further their creations
as whatever we choose, what is our purpuse, to become better and so on, but as individual beings, can we crave for freedom or something like that
Hm
speculation on the dinosaurs
we know the replicator created them
but just from looking at a skeleton?
but then who build the replicator?
He's asking if the player will want to escape the island
or has the replicator always been it?
if escape is the final goal
depends on who you play
and eternal bimechanic being, a god?
what is your goal
as a merc we still have no clue what our objective is
hell we coulda just been sent there to die
if thats the case then you would want to fucking get off the island
that is if you are the only one out of the hive mind, what if the humans, the mercs are actually controlled by the replicator?
As i speculated earlier if the replicator is ai, and has pawns to please its every wish, maybe it has the ability to call in these people
for further testing
Maybe those diamond shaped towers could be transmission towers created by it
or radio blockers to make the people outside question whats going on in the island
causing them to send people in
also this isnt a nationality were dealing with here, obviously because the name mercs
so these people sending them in would either be a group or organization connected to the happenings on the island, or the replicator as stated above
or maybe the replicator is trying to reemake the isle walker, for some reason, maybe the replicator is the one that created life in the first place, and its a second coming of some sort, or its being controlled by humans
id doubt it created life itself
as seen it can cause people to do its bidding
and greed is a mighty large force
i wonder what the organization behind this is
behind the testing
AE
We also don't play as mercs, to our knowledge
we control profiles
unless I'm confused
so maybe mercs arent really human, but created by the replicator itself
nah im pretty sure the mercs are human
depends on how you get to the island
concepts were shown of ways to get in
so, if theres a way in, theres a way out
how are you so sure?
maybe all this island walker stuffs aren't anywhere else because they can't leave. Only stuff can get into the islands, maybe. but this is probably all wrong 
We should probably start working on logging in again
Apparently there are people who have managed to get good at it

Since Dondi referred to the cycle of living and sacrificing yourself as a "phase", would that have any link to the Poseidon/hades etc. thing? Or just the same usage of the word "phase"?
Dondi said
Phase 2 was starting
A while back
Well not that long ago
So what I am assuming is
we will soon need to find a way to break through phase 1 and enter phase 2
In one of the files it says suicide a bunch of times and kill once
Maybe these are steps to be taken?
Probably best to wait till the next dev branch
cause it seems like they are adding things to V3
Hmmm
Hopefully if new stuff get added to the map
That means more codes
And more stuff for us to update the google doc with
Yeah ikr
So had this idea pop into my had, what if the mutated trees transform the apex's (rex, giga and spino) into a hypo, tisso or nuro. It would be rare, you would most likely die or be maned but there is a rare chance you would be transform. Now, what if in the timeline they discovered this occurrence and wanted to improve upon the hypo due to its unbalanced hunger, so they made the magna rex.

maybe the hypo trees are the cause of hypo dinos>
like a carni ate a trike that just ate a piece of it's bark
Wat
and that cause mutations
What hypo trees ?
there will be strain trees
No ?
Yes
Again, No ?
It was on stream
It was never said they'd be strain trees
You're kinda jumping the gun
He said they'd change you in ways you though impossible, could just mean they give perks if anything
Strains where never mentioned when plants where around
or in bad ways
^
Point being strains were never apart of that particular conversation
We are not sure what the trees will do to us, this is just a theory. as far as we know, they can just kill us and give us nothing or turn us into bigger monsters
I'm pretty sure those trees don't have any effect on giving strains either way. I don't think it'd be " that easy "
yeah uh
well they to take, melt and kill things close to it. Thats why I said it would be rare if someone is mutated
don said you wouldn't even KNOW how you got the strain the first time
so..
also making it RNG is stupid
Well if everyone was able to be a hypo then it would be a hell on the island. you can say make the requirements harder but people will abuse the system no matter what.
Still rmg is stupid either way
I was thinking that the giant tower that made hypos look like babies were made for tracking things
The strains seem to be made on purpose
And I remember Dondi saying something along the line these plants will kill you
I doubt carnivores would transform from these plants
I and I also doubt these strain plants are very widespread hence them being contained in a building
He said that some of the plants would change you, or remove parts of you that you didn’t know you had, melt you or kill you.
parts of you that you didnt know you had
cool beans what's being harvested from dinosaurs?
dog spleens and elephant livers, calling it now
(to the guy saying strains were never mentioned when plants where around, they were mentioned, Dondi said some plants were made with the same strains that affected dinosaurs. So we'll have deadly plants, but no mention on if they could turn you into strains)
also: "parts of you you didn't know you had"
Guess that magic is lost when you study a health related career (veterinary here).
I'm exited to see how they'll turn out, the plant mechanics. I'm exited in general. But I'm expecting more of something that wasn't mentioned
So Dondi did say that the strains that made the dinosaurs are the same that made those trees
And that not everything that will kill you will be fauna
Now for the interesting part, he said that those trees could take away things from you that you did not know that you had
the replicator created everything unknown on the island
Well they are man made
Now
Tbh that last statement about the trees is very interesting
Because I am assuming that they will both be harmful and beneficial at the same time
The 'parts you never knew you had' could possibly also refer to affinity and how it adjusts. I'm sure affinity would at least tie into the fauna somehow
I mean just from a gameplay perspective. Like what it does to you could depend on how high or low your affinity is, or it might raise or lower it on its own.
Yeah, I don't think it'd do that, but I could see it doing different things depending on how high your affinity is.
Like, if your affinity is too low, it just kills you.
I think it’d just kill you if you ran into the wrong plant at the wrong time kind of scenario.
If you gained too low of affinity, it’ll just turn you into an albino.
I don't know if someone brought this up already (probably)
but what if you need human intervention to become a strain
like, you need to be captured - brought into some kind of facility - and then you are experimented on
Brought up and quickly shot down. It makes sense lore-wise but it'd be a chore for people without " friends " to do it. And why would strangers make an impossibly strong creature that'd try to kill them whenever ?
Funny how it's usually the case in stories.
Cuz stories think that they can control said creatures
Here we know we can't
And even lorewise they know
I suppose. But isn't taming/enslaving dinosaurs a thing?
It would be interesting if some strong/special tribals could enslave strains.
You can't. Asked on the QA stream and Dondi said " They're not made to be controlled " or something along these lines
Ah, I see. Fair enough then
I guess those plants are the only lead we know so far
We don't know exactly what strains are, like how the " strain " itself is made, and how it " contaminates " Dinos and plants
but the humans have to get something out of mutating things cause otherwise they would not have done it in the past, maybe they get some kind of benefit from it we dont know of
Maybe technology, like how we can create sticky stuff like phone holders for in cars by studying gecko's paws
Though idk what technology a dino would produce
Or maybe it's all alien and humans didn't create it - only study it 
Or we might find proof that the world is run by lizard people 
Le gasp

Have we learned much regarding what each strain does to an animal or plant? Not just the obvious “hyper makes things big and hungry, Neuro makes things squishy and electrically funky” type stuff, but stuff like why the hyper giga has adapted to have multiple rows of jaws designed to shred things, or why the T. rex has adapted its jaws to become even stronger and its healing regen to be even better than before? And not have t the other way around?
I guess what I’m tryna ask is, why do the strains effect different species so drastically? If that makes any sense
I get from a gameplay standpoint it would need to be done so they aren’t redundant, but what from a lore standpoint would add to this?
For giga it'd facilitate its hunting needs if going for theropods ( is it theropods ? Or sauropod ? Can't remember ) and bleeding them out, makes sense since that's what they do. But then again we don't know enough on strains to tell that from a lore perspective
This is probably completely wrong, but I'm going to post some theories I have here about the canonically lore and how it would connect to gameplay.
Well from what I can gather, the actual strain itself, enhances and adds to what that specific predator needs, and takes away what it doesn't. For example, take the nuero spino. It has incredible abilities, such as a weather changing ability so it can't be tracked, nor can it really be seen in the dead of night. But to compensate, it lost its eyes.
There's Tribals, Survivors, Mercenaries, Cannibals, and the strain things that were originally thought to be cannibals, but are still sometimes called cannibals right?
Survivors are the outsiders stranded on the isle without any protection obviously, possibly forced to by the modern civilization who has actively developed on the isle
But there are obviously downfalls to this, as we can see with the Hyperendocrin strains, and there constant need to eat and consume
Mercenaries could be actively employed to go onto the isle's modern human government to capture or kill dinosaurs or other noteworthy things and are heavily armed
I feel like the mercs are just on cleanup duty.
Tribals would be the native population of people, similar to native americans or other rural human populations, but we know from new maps that they are in active worship of the replicator
There's the cannibal orc thing, which looks to be human but heavily deformed from an unknown means, possibly related to a population of tribals who sacrifice their own kind
The strain is probably the outcome of the replicator selecting a cannibal or tribal worthy of being a strain, starting with the smaller thing and but getting bigger with more effort
It's been alluded to that strains possibly are related to plants of an unknown origin
What if the sacrifices are actually fertilizer for said plants?
It would be pretty eldritch if the replicator was something remotely organic in nature and had to "feast" on things to keep running or do whatever it does now.
So the tribals/cannibals/etc have to actually grow one of these things to a certain extent before it actually yields transforming something into a strain
So the tribal model ingame is just a placeholder right
The orc monkey tribal design looks great
Are the tribal humans even the same species of human?
perhaps only vaguely. or they were, once upon a time?
Probably
They may have just been modified by Apollo or the replicator
Or just inbred
Anyone know anything about the Morse code going off at radio tower. Sorry if this has already been figured out I don't go to this place a lot.
Look at the pinned google doc
Tribals are what the ecosystem reacted with to things man has created, but this is only a game theory
maybe tribals and “cannibals” (not sure what to call them anymore) are “related” in the sort of way that the Forsworn and Hagravens are related in TESV: Skyrim. Are they the same creature? No; Forsworn are just tribal-like humans (with the exception of the Briarhearts, though they are just slightly altered humans). Hagravens, however, are magically mutated humans that have undergone a unique ritual to become more powerful at the expense of losing their humanity. So when Dondi mentioned that you can sacrifice yourself to continue to the nest phase of life, one of these phases might be evolving into the creature we've known as the “cannibal” for all this time.
Is this a totally insane crackpot theory? Probably. Just wanted to put it here on the super unlikely chance that it becomes even vaguely true. Feel free to chew me out if you think this is a shitty theory 🤷
call the blinds guys... well,, blind guys
blind boys
I had a similar theory where Cannibals ( why wonder on the name ? ) where something akin to a superior tribal. Which would explain the few altars and whatnot on the island
you've seen the latest tribal/cannibal reveal, right?
tribals are cannibals, the blind guys are something else.
we're wondering on the name since dondi said 'these things arent cannibals'
I doubt the fanbase has a decent name to call them for now so I'm just gonna call them 'cannibals' till then

The wendigo of the isle
@lusty citrus yes I know
But them actually being called something else doesn't mean we can't call them cannibal until they're actual name is found out
I'm not calling them blind guys 
LOL yeah
That's the colossus
So...plants in the enviornment can get strains as well?
And Humanity created the strains, right?
we dont know... sounds like it the replicator made the strains tho
assuming the replicators' not a space alien 👽
👀
with how certain things are worded regarding the replicator, it sounds as though it may be some form of sentient being, and not just an ai of some form. or not a basic ai, i mean
because i've heard a lot of "gaining the replicator's favor" and a couple of other phrases i can't remember off the off of my head that personify it, kinda
so what if the replicator isn't a thing, but a status for someone?
I wouldn't be surprised if it ended being some biomechanical H.R. Giger thing
I think the humanoids and I use this term specifically that we known as cannibals are mutated tribals by the plant that can change you as Dondi said.
The thing is if it was a next "phase" it would be a downgrade as you would no longer be able to use weapons which caused humans to rule over animals
what if those “plants that change you in ways you didn’t think were possible” turn humans into those weird dinosaur human hybrid cannibal things .. and the use of a gas mask is to prevent that?
That would be assuming that they would do it using some kind of spore. We don't know that. What if it reaches out and grabs you instead?
@chilly sigil cannibals = tribals my dude
the orc lookin fucks
they're cannibals, and they'rre tribals
the blind guys are somethin else
Yeah but they are being reffered to as cannibals
Why do i keep hearing of plants with strains, did i miss something?
Ok
They'll change you in ways you didn't even know possible
and?
strains in their own prospects
where did it come from that they have the same shit as dinosaurs
they arent fauna
"There are plants that are derived from the same strains that make dinosaurs in this game"
something along those lines
probably something like the Strains
Id guess not the same
Spaz plants wouldnt be a bad thing then
Hyperendocrine function where they spaz out when they sense a living creature and become like a fucking spiky ball while also impaling the prey, then sprouting flowers or fruit of which spawns other ones, then the original plant dies
bet
when
I dont know if this is old or if someone already found it, but in The Isle's loading screen when joining a server, there is 2 words that I found, one being "Forever" and the other being "seeking" There might be more words so help me keep looking. It could mean something. Just something I seen.
That has been looked upon already. Idk if there’s a full list of the words they’ve found
I think there was
Hm, ok.
There’s quite a few words in that DNA sequence stuff in the bg of loading screens
I saw “wait” and “joke” at some point
I’ll have to take a deeper look into it next time I play, but I suspect it’s different messages in each loading screen
Haven't noticed those yet
I'm for sure gonna keep looking for more words.
Joke forever, seeking wait
lol
hm
All of the words are in the pinned google, doc amongst other things: https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit
^
I cannot choose favorites.
what an interesting phrase
something the dondi told us it does
guys where you playing allo when you died?
the 15th cycle
do you have to die 15 times
and what is the apollo core
Guys an Idea just came to me
I was reading the script
and I saw "YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD"
and at first I thought nothing of it, perhaps it was a funny refence to JP
but then i thought, What if it was not a reference, but the key to us finding a way into the system
you're saying stuff that has already been found
am i
yes
so your saying there is no one that we could talk to
that knows the key into the backdoor of the system
just like Nedry?
/when did I say that/
sorry about that
but it seems like plausable idea
someone who knows a way in
but I am assuming that maybe we need to provoke him or her into talking
like a reward
you know just like nedry
so guys what do you think
that's that for this idea
a big question mark would be he cortex corruption level
@tribal trench Thing is though, they are humanoids so I'd say blind humanoids or the next apex

Tell Tapwing to spill the beans
but what if we are being mislead
plus
Allosaurus seems to be mentioned alot
so does the t.rex
TRX 8443
Wasn’t 8443 that number on the pole in the building from that one transmission?


