#isle-lore-theories

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median hornet
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meanwhile the strains are takes on a rex

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or whatever

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instead the magnatyrannus imo is just a thing that was made

placid harness
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Again, that's pretty clear.

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We know it was made.

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We know for a fact that it was an improvement upon something.

median hornet
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and how do you know that

placid harness
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That something being Type-H creatures.

icy onyx
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Hold on, didn't isle twitter say something about forced evolution

median hornet
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ayy that might be it

placid harness
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Magnatyrannus being an improved version of type-H was heavily implied when Dondi reacted to someone's theory as if they were on to it.

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You could take "heavily implied" with as light a grain of salt as you want but my point still stands.

ebon basalt
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I'm pretty sure the difference is that strains are made (an individual transforms into one via forced evolution) while magnas are born/replicated the way they are.

median hornet
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^

ebon basalt
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It's been kinda obvious

placid harness
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Things can be modified before birth or however the birds and bees work in the Isle.

umbral tusk
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probably a petree dish or however you spell it

proper steppe
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Magna rex isn't a rex, though

covert chasm
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isnt it derived from a rex

proper steppe
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Proof? dondiTroll

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Don't just assume it's a strain because people here call it magna rex

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Its name suggests that it's a separate genus

icy onyx
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Yeah

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It ain't even a magna rex

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Magnatyrannus Solus

proper steppe
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It's a solus

tribal trench
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ok.. so what if the replicator that makes the dinos (dunno-), to make tisso,neuro,hypo and magna strains uses different types of simulations? as in, to create a hypo, it makes the rexes' environment and prey much tougher, making it have to evolve to become stronger and faster? to create tisso, making the rexes' environment and prey less stealthy so it had to evolve to get better camo? (examples), and for magna rex, they could've just played out the exact same environment from millions of years ago that the rex already had. (this all being if they simulated the evolution process in fast speed, in a computer or something)

icy onyx
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I don't see the word rex

tribal trench
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sorry if thats a mouthful

proper steppe
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Also, @placid harness , what if Dondi was replying to the rest of the idea and not that specific tidbit?

tribal trench
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opinions pls

placid harness
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That was pretty much the whole idea.

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As far as I remember.

proper steppe
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Doubt

placid harness
tribal trench
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oh yes

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a clap from dondi

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= true

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👌 logic right there

placid harness
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I guess its that hard to believe that a Magna is an improvement.

serene wadi
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I believe it is

proper steppe
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I don't believe that magna is an improved hypo

serene wadi
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Hypo is an efficient weapon but it is a pain in the ass to keep alive

proper steppe
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It might play that way

placid harness
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Not explicitly an improved strain but an improved idea.

serene wadi
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Magna can technically live as efficiently as all the others

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It was called a normal dinosaur

proper steppe
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we have nothing with the lore suggesting it's an improved hypo

serene wadi
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Not exactly an improved hypo, just a rex modified in a similiar manner but in a way that it doesnt starve too quickly

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In short, magna is a better animal, hypo is a better weapon

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Can't be too sure though

gloomy wave
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Hmmm

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Wonder if the magna is sterile

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Like the strains

serene wadi
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I think it's not

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Even the model is called "magnatyrannus_adult"

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While the hypo is just "tyrannosaurus_hypo" or something similiar

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Since it also is a normal dinosaur I'm heavily leaning towards the idea that it can nest, grow and everything

tribal trench
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ehhh, maybe it can nest lore-wise but I don't think that'd be cool gameplay wise.

serene wadi
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It would probably take way more than a rex does to grow too

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Considering how bigger and stronger it gets

tribal trench
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"way more" is an understatement

drifting night
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It's pretty obvious that it's a perfected hypo

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Just look at the facts

fringe sparrow
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Or maybe a new strain

tribal trench
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@drifting night bring me the facts

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there is 0 evidence magna is a strain

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bring me the screenshots or twitch clips, if you will

placid harness
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0 evidence it isn't, either.

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But I personally think it's not.

tribal trench
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if there is no evidence it IS, it means it isn't.

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that's how it works-

drifting night
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They made the hypo first, but as said above their problem is hunger and that they're a pain in the ass to keep alive. So they made a new strain to perfect the current hypo strain to be less demanding and more natural. It keeps the armor side with the crocodile back, and keeps the strength of the hypos as seen when it killed one. Plus, making it smaller problaly makes it easier to hunt or whatever it does.

tribal trench
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by that logic since there is 0 evidence of dragons existing, then I have to have evidence of them not existing??

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@drifting night you have yet given me proof magna is a strain

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i don't see the "obvious" in this.

drifting night
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You're annoying aren't you, just have some imagination. Never said it was a strain either.

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Literally right infront of you

tribal trench
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aw thank you, that's what I like, debating with someone and them calling me annoying ❤

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you're making bold claims. "they made the hypo first but their problem is hunger so they made a new strain"

drifting night
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Why not? That's what people seem to agree with above

tribal trench
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because you've got no proof, or confirmation of it

drifting night
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It would make sense.

tribal trench
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just saying its 100% or super obvious, doesn't make it true

drifting night
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Usually does

tribal trench
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oh. ok, then draqgons are 100% true. dragons exist now

proper steppe
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You're making the claim, you have the burden of proof @drifting night

drifting night
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Wtf that's not even close to what I said

proper steppe
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You clearly did not read his earlier post

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or even your own post

placid harness
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It's sad how everyone tries to rip into each other in this channel.

drifting night
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It's horrible

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have some imagination of what we already know

proper steppe
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"imagination"

tribal trench
proper steppe
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Why would I need to have imagination for a claim about an actual theory that has proof behind it?

placid harness
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It's like if you don't have a stream clip or a quote from the Dondi Guide to the Galaxy your theory is null.

proper steppe
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It's almost like that's how a theory is proven

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I don't see whats hard to understand

drifting night
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I can't handle the sarcasm on this discord

placid harness
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Seriously. ^

proper steppe
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That doesn't seem like theories 🤔

drifting night
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Omg 😂

tribal trench
placid harness
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The topic is theories. Try again.

sharp frigate
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👁‍🗨

arctic rune
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It's just a theory. An Isle theory.

fresh rivet
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the strains are strains. They are made. The magna is the "life finds a way" kind of thing. It's nature's response to the hypo. At least that's what i remember from a long while ago

deep ridge
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We dont know what magnas are but good guess

gloomy wave
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I only really remember someone saying the Magna was an hybrid, with lots of animals DNA, crocodile DNA and whatnot. Same for the magna Utah with komodo DNA iirc ? I'm pretty sure those two arnt exactly a " natural " response to strains. Rather upgraded versions of Dino's, that's my take on it

supple dome
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@gloomy wave komodo dragon and pit viper dna I believe

gloomy wave
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Yeah

supple dome
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For the raptor anyway

gloomy wave
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Perhaps they're like an " upgrade " you unlock after some requirement are fulfilled ?

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That's how I imagine it

supple dome
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No I don't believe so but it's a good idea

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A lot of people think you will instantly be mutated from this dna stuff, I'm thinking that it'll be a gradual thing from some things you do in game that effect the end result.

gloomy wave
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I believe the strains are instant in some way

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But as mentioned earlier the magna Rex is named " Magna_adult " or watnot

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Hence my theory

supple dome
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That's just the code for it nothing related to the lore

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But meh you do you

gloomy wave
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Not talking lore, theorizing gameplay

supple dome
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What you're called won't affect the gameplay at all XD

gloomy wave
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It does in some way. If the magna model ATM is called " Adult " it implies ( not confirms ) that there are multiple stages

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Hence my theory, again

supple dome
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I actually have a thought running through my head from that when it comes to the tyrannosaurus In the Isle at the moment.
What if a small percentage of the trex players have the gene/mutation of hyperendocrine or the magna gene when they start off and mutate over time?
Eventually becoming these hulking beasts.
Because nowhere in the lore does it state any of the hatchlings you start out with are natural. What if every single one you've been playing as has been released into the general populace from the labs/facility after being hatched.
Only a small number of these animals would have the gene and it would take time to alter their dna, during this time they would be monitored by the facility and the AE scientists on how to "perfect" or better their creations to last longer and be more effective for the means that they are bring bred for.

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It would explain the difference in names and why they almost pop out of nowhere

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Instead of consuming the flesh or getting infected by some virus. The changes would be gradual until they hit the adolescent stage when the hormones in their bodies pushed the mutation to work faster. The magna is the better working and more natural of the two and doesn't need to constantly eat to survive. While the hyper is constantly having to fuel it's changing body but can never have enough because it's mutation is flawed and it's growth gene won't stop producing the hormones.

gloomy wave
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I don't think that's how it'll go. But its a nice theory.

First off its based a lot on chance in and on itself, gameplay and lore wise it doesn't make sense

Second I don't think we know enough about the lore to make theories about how strains or magnas are made specifically

And my last comment is I remember Dondi speaking about a " transformation " animation for strains, I'd suppose then it'd be an instant thing. I think magmas could make sense in some way that way, but I'm pretty sure strain as a whole are instantaneous

supple dome
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That transformation animation I believe was in reference to the actual strain harbingers. The collosus the reaper and the echidna

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And there is actual backing to my theory as well.

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There is the monitor system we see when we die. That is an indication that we are being monitored obviously.
But the way that these monsters just pop out of nowhere either suggests that they are dropped in from somewhere. Escaped from somewhere. Or were in hiding and they needed to come out to fuel themselves.
For all we know they could be released from the facility fully grown and used as field tests for future generations.

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But I quite like my theory so until something new comes up to counteract that, then that's what I'm sticking with.

gloomy wave
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Seems good, but what do you mean the harbringer ? I'm pretty sure we wouldn't see them transform

supple dome
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Whoever said that there was only one of each type.
The harbingers as I call them are the 3 beasts. The reaper the collosus and the echidna.
I think they are able to effect human dna with either a parasite or via implanting their dna in them somehow. Maybe through the air or via a transfer of bodily fluids like blood or venom I don't know but, I believe the transformation is for the humans infected by these things.

gloomy wave
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We know for a fact there are multiple reapers

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We know there on colossus, that escaped / got his files scrapped

supple dome
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There "were" multiple reapers

gloomy wave
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And then echidna is a bit mysterious

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Nothing said there " not multiple reapers " anymore, or did I miss something saying that ?

supple dome
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Well there wasn't solid proof saying there were multiple either.
I think if there were multiple reapers that they would have been terminated as it were

gloomy wave
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Im pretty sure there was a screen talking about it ? Loading screens

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Yeah

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Dr vega

supple dome
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Dr vega isn't in any of the loading screens. ....

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None of the Dr's are

gloomy wave
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Perfected the " reaperisation " ( Idk a they called it ) and stuff

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And then it said " 12 reapers alive "

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Not in the loading but

supple dome
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No. There wasnt

gloomy wave
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I'm 100% sure it was somewhere

supple dome
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Nowhere had it ever said that. I'm quite positive on that

gloomy wave
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Its prolly somewhere on the lore site

icy onyx
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Its not 12 reapers.

supple dome
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There is no lore site

gloomy wave
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In pinned

supple dome
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There's only find the Isle and the old wiki which is outdated

icy onyx
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12 Active Specimens.

supple dome
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Which could be anything not just reapers

icy onyx
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Though it very likely it is reapers.

gloomy wave
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^

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Yeah sprinkles do you know what it was ?

supple dome
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They could be in reference to creatures infected by its strain

gloomy wave
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I mean the doc

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Not the specimen

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@supple dome This one right here was my favorite User Inquiry: User Inquiry: ReaperTissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.Initial results proved fatal.Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.There are 12 active specimens.

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( copy pasted from earlier talk ) that's what im talking about

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Seems to be in the console stream

supple dome
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So I was right saying it wasn't a reaper but something infected by it

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12 people infected by implanted reaper flesh. Not a reaper but something more.

gloomy wave
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Its a bit of a stretch in my opinion but I suppose it could be that

supple dome
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It literally says it in that log.

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It's in black and white right there for you to see.

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They failed once after implanting the reaper flesh into a human host.
Then Dr vega perfected it and as of September 7th 2004 there are 12 live human specimens infected with reaper flesh

gloomy wave
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I think its lost in formatting

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User Inquiry: User Inquiry: ReaperTissoplastic
regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.Initial results proved fatal.Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.There are 12 active specimens.

supple dome
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Not really. It obvious if you read it right.

gloomy wave
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It doesn't say " reaper tissue placed in human "

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It says " regenerative tissue placed in human "

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The ReaperTissoplastic is the inquiry

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Not part of the explanation

supple dome
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ReaperTissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.

gloomy wave
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That's exactly

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What I said it wasnt

supple dome
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It isn't from anywhere else. Have some damn sense and think rather than being dull

gloomy wave
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I'll get you a screen of it

supple dome
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It's right there for you to see yet you don't accept it

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I was bloody there in the damn stream I don't need to see a screenshot ffs

gloomy wave
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Okay so

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Calm down first off

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So here's my take on it

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Keep in mind I have no idea what tissplastic means BTW

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The user asked about reapers, the console showed that the reapers are humans infected with tissoplastic tissue. So it either means : A. Its like you said and its in fact a tissue of a reaper
B. Its not a reaper, but something else or something made, which in turn created the reapers

supple dome
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Tissoplastic is the strain that infected a human host through an unknown means. Most likely pure dna modification through insemination.
But the reaper is the name of the projinator of the strain.

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The first to be infected/made

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The true reaper. As it were.

gloomy wave
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We don't know if that's the case

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Nothing pointing to the fact there's one individual they just keep, getting tissue from

supple dome
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You also don't know if there is any more reapers but we do know that there are 12 more humans infected with reaper flesh thanks to that user enquiry

gloomy wave
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12 more humans with reaper flesh that could have mutated them unto reapers them self, we don't really know either way and that's why I said we don't know enough to theorize how strains ( dino and humans ) are made

supple dome
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I don't think they are reapers from that. I think they may be mutated in some way like the cannibals were but in a more mental than physical way.

gloomy wave
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Or ! Or, they're like " superhumans " with regenerative abilities dondiThink yeah its a bit broad atm

supple dome
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Mhm

gloomy wave
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Actually that'd be a nice theory

supple dome
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Military uses

gloomy wave
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Imagine the mercenary earning " perks " by using tissues abandoned through the facilities on the island, with an off-chance if it doing something bad to you

icy onyx
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Could some one explain to me some Theories or like the story behind the Isle, i really wonder what it is like. please DM me or @ me Thanks for th information i appreciate it!

tribal trench
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Mightve not been updated in a while, but yeah.

icy onyx
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thank you very much @tribal trench

tribal trench
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👍

icy onyx
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👌🏻

proper steppe
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To all of you who said the person who logged in was bullshit or whatever

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Apparently there's someone who's good at it

fossil lily
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So someone has been logging in and out for a while now

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Under our noses

earnest glade
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👀

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Who the hell is it

viral comet
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I guess we gotta break out Clue and figure it out the old fashioned way

proper steppe
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It plays favorites, it's probably one of these fancy colored names

tribal trench
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dondiThink hmmm

proper steppe
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and there went the theories that everything went to hell for AE on accident

tribal trench
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khorne I've got my eyes on you

fossil lily
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The next level?

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When I heard Next Level I instantly thought of

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Getting past the gateway

fossil lily
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JFC

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SO MUCH NEW SHIT

proper steppe
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People saying it's a park

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it's obviously a research place

fossil lily
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The Hotel and Resort is for when they probably bring investors

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Or family

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Make them feel at home

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With how DANGEROUS this island is

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It can not be a park

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I am too overwhelmed atm

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The war he is referring to makes me think of Lost

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The mercs who came onto the island forced to fight against the people or creatures that were originally there (Tribals)

proper steppe
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We've established that the tribals aren't really people, though

fossil lily
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Very true

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I think imma wait a hour or two before I truly start theorizing

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Give my mind some time to process all the information

buoyant river
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New theory: what we once called cannibals are juvenile colossi

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Came up with this looking at their foot structure and how similar it is

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Almost exactly the same

fossil lily
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doubt it

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What he just said with them having to be specifically bred and shit I think I have a idea.

proper steppe
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This solidifies cannibals not being a strain we know of for me

fossil lily
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Could be the creature bred for War

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But with the user inquiry being outdated idk

buoyant river
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It says it’s not correct to call it a dinosaur

proper steppe
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Solidifies Matriarch not being theropod-like

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to me

buoyant river
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No

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It just says you can’t call it a dinosaur

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Doesn’t say it won’t look like one

proper steppe
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Not that

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It's this whole thing about things getting freakier

earnest glade
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Once again dudes. Tinfoil hat time. SO.
I'll start off by saying these are my own thoughts about various things that Dondi just released on stream, and I'm always open to suggestions as to what others think. But it seems pretty obvious now, that this fifteenth cycle, is in fact the final stage for these tribals. Whatever they transform into it must be some kind of spectacle, as by the fifteenth cycle, 'stories were passed down through generations' What if these stories change over time, and contain different ways of sacrificing yourself to the replicator. And if you are sacrificed to the replicator, are there ways of being sacrificed that can change the outcome of a replication cycle. Obviously the Replicator has an interest in keeping the human aspect of things, hence the human forms of the Reaper, Echidna and Colossus. Maybe this is because the human form can be pushed to a massive extent. OR. It wants to keep an aspect of the human form for a specific reason... All in all, I don't think AE entirely know what is going on.

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I think they have a huge part in making the strains. But I don't think they actually created the material needed to mutate DNA. What we know as the strains. I think that material was already on the island, and AE found a way of cultivating it. Which is why they are using these strains on dino's and as we now know, plants. I also think that these strains are symbiotic in nature. So they have to have a living host to survive, and once they have combined with the host, they enhance the host's body. But what if AE have only just figured out how to properly use these strains. If that's the case, then maybe the Hypo's, Nuero's and Tisso's are AE learning how to use these strains, and the Magna is a more 'perfected' version of whatever AE has managed to learn and cultivate through their failures. Maybe they learnt this info from drawings, texts or even samples from tribal camps, seeing as tribals seem to know what's up.

I could be completely off base. But that's what my brain shat out when I managed to process some of the info Dondi gave us haha

fossil lily
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ohgod thats alot to read

earnest glade
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I know :/

proper steppe
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I read through it but I don't think I can remember a lot of what you said

fossil lily
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Ah so if AE does not know what is going on

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Possibly the Replicator is Sentient

proper steppe
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One thing that jumps out at me, though

fossil lily
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Or maybe AE made it that way

proper steppe
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I don't think the tribals were natives to the island

earnest glade
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Oh I think AE tried to make the smartest AI they possibly could. But maybe they made it too smart

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OR they made it too smart on purpose

proper steppe
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If the replicator is ai then the tribals would have to have come about later, right?

earnest glade
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No I don't think they where native either

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Maybe they came over hundreds or thousands of yeaars ago

proper steppe
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That would be pretty damn native

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would fail to explain why they're so fucked and so dedicated to the replicator

earnest glade
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True^^

fossil lily
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makes sense

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If you are a primitive species

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And this gigantic machine or something beyond ur imaginable power comes along

proper steppe
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I don't think the tribals were here before AE

fossil lily
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You are going to worship it or be scared of it

earnest glade
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Maybe they saw what it can do

fossil lily
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Explains why

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With stories passed down from generations

proper steppe
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I still think the tribals were created by AE indirectly or something

fossil lily
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Could be a story of how one got picked by the replicator

proper steppe
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I seriously don't think the tribals are any native group that was there before AE

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I think that the Replicator created them

nimble cape
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So

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about the island itself

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what in shit happened on it

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obviously not a park

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maybe research island

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seems too easy though

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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The restricted area on the map probably has to do with some crazy ass collossal type creatures

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why else would they put it in somewhere with massive natural barriers and why else would there be tribal warnings on the outside

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and a giant corpse thats already there

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Maybe it's something like a research and experimentation island disguised as some kind of park?

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idk

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can't think of why there would be monorails and a visitor entrance or whatever

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etc.

proper steppe
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Maybe because you need a way to enter onto the island and a way to quickly move from place to place?

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These things aren't limited to a park

nimble cape
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True

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But why would it say "visitor"

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unless if it's just generally a name for something like that

half sinew
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I'd imagine the restricted zone is where the fucked up stuff in the redwoods are

nimble cape
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Looks like that strain plant just like

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bursted out of a normal one

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because the bottom looks natural

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and the rest has that metallic kind of look

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Also when dondi mentioned the plants

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he mentioned plants that could melt you

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Acidic sap or something?

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Tissoplastic flora?

tribal trench
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Guys, what if the 15th cycle thing refers to "leveling up" or "getting to the next level" in that ritual temple building thing?

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Also, don said everything went according to plan, ae didn't mess up

fossil lily
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Does make you wonder

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cause it is obvious now AE never went away

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It is still a active thing going on as we play

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What is their end goal?

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Damn I am surprised this chat aint blowing up right now

buoyant heart
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same here like holy fuk

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also

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with the whole tribals being cannibals thing

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I fukkin called it

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XP

covert chasm
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so how do we call "cannibals" now

buoyant heart
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we dont, they are now one in the same OWO

icy onyx
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Well sort of...

buoyant heart
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well yeah

covert chasm
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am i reading things wrong but dondi said "the things on the right are a separate entity"

buoyant heart
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he did mention something else

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...

icy onyx
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@covert chasm You are right.

covert chasm
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so they're not cannibals or am i a tard

buoyant heart
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they are

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w>

icy onyx
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I have a feeling they a type of Cannibal like a strain..

covert chasm
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idk "separate entity" to me sounds like dondi played us like a fiddle and the no-eyed fucks were never really cannibals

icy onyx
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Well they are refered to as Cannibals so it is still safe to call them cannibals.... But, Tribals and Cannibals are the same thing.

fresh rivet
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maybe you have to do a sacrifice to become a cannibal

covert chasm
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"a certain method of unlocking that will never ever ever happen"

glacial moth
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hmmm this last stream was pretty intresting

proper steppe
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Cannibals are clearly not cannibals anymore

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He suggested that that wasn't the case

glacial moth
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so I kinda thought up a theory that maybe humans are maybe going extinct

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and the replicator was an Ai that was meant to give humans immortality,

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so basically it preserves their memories and put it into a new body

covert chasm
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why would the humans be going extinct though

glacial moth
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well

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that is what i want to figure out

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those monsters

covert chasm
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the only way i could see that happening is something like metro 2033 where there's a war that kills most humans and the government creates a new race dinosaurs/dark ones to continue sapient life on the planet

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i doubt humans all suddenly got sick with ligma and started dying

glacial moth
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no

proper steppe
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The only proof for this theory that I can see is that the replicator replicates

glacial moth
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maybe it's not a deases

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more of an extinction event

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like the metior

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that hit the dinosaurs

proper steppe
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Who would've been around to build the replicator, then?

glacial moth
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no

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no

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humans built

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the replicator

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to prevent extinction

proper steppe
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But you just said it was a mass extinction event like a meteor

glacial moth
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okay

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let me rephrase

proper steppe
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If we didn't nuke it before it reached us it clearly must have caught us by surprise

glacial moth
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An extinction even that will occur, humans try to prepare

proper steppe
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Which means there would've been no time to prepare

glacial moth
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good point

covert chasm
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thats reasonable but why would the first plan for an extinction event be dinosaurs

glacial moth
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well i had that thought

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that maybe by bringing back what was extinct

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and perfecting it in a controlled envirnoment

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will give humans the edge to evolve in one way or another

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because why would there be a war

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why create monsters

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with those huge containers

proper steppe
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How does any of this translate to extinction event?

glacial moth
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maybe the replicator has a mind of it's own

icy onyx
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I think it does.

glacial moth
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is it a computer?

proper steppe
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I'd be unsurprised if it were a sapient ai

covert chasm
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clearly replicator and samuel hayden are the same character

proper steppe
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Still don't understand how any of this proves extinction event

icy onyx
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^^

glacial moth
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oh no at this point I abandoned my previous thought

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as it clearly has holes in it

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I am trying to construct some sort of....... list of ideas

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we know that the four most important things are the replicator, the gateway, the island, and the owner

proper steppe
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We do?

glacial moth
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I mean they seem to be the main focus

proper steppe
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I'd agree with the replicator being very important

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but the rest we don't really know much about

glacial moth
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only two people know what or who the gateway is

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that would be tap and dindo

proper steppe
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Source?

icy onyx
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Pretty sure gateway isn't a who..

proper steppe
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I know there was something that only two people knew on stream

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I don't think Gateway was it

glacial moth
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no it's in the stream

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here let me clip it

icy onyx
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Dondi and Tap only know what Gateway is, Pretty sure that is it. Only 2 people in the world who know what it is.

buoyant heart
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hmmm

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tap sure seems to know alot

proper steppe
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Again, are you sure it was gateway?

buoyant heart
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🤔

icy onyx
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Yeah.

buoyant heart
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it was

icy onyx
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I'n sure it was gateway.

proper steppe
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I'm pretty sure it was a different thing that was only known by two people

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Was really early on in the reveals

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Might've been the plants themselves, feels like it was something after it

glacial moth
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ok

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he mentioned fortnite

proper steppe
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it was actually revealed on Stream, Dondi went afk for a while before he showed it off

icy onyx
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Do you mean the person or who ever was logged in was aware of the connection between tribals and cannibals?

glacial moth
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then he mentioned gateway and tap

proper steppe
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Clip

glacial moth
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yeah right

icy onyx
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Herp will get you clip rn

proper steppe
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I don't have the vod, I can't watch it

icy onyx
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Just have to find it first sadly.

glacial moth
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sme

proper steppe
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Seems like it was just before the tribal reveal

glacial moth
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hmm

proper steppe
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I also don't think he referenced the Gateway as much as you two think he did

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He skipped over something that sounded like it was similar to Gateway though

glacial moth
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I can't clip wtf

icy onyx
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I don't think clips work for vods

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since they are sub only

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I think

glacial moth
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but i am a sub

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here you go

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and by she we now it's tapwing

proper steppe
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This doesn't help

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I'm not a sub, I can't watch the vod

glacial moth
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god damn it

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ok

proper steppe
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I do know that they never say what Tapwing got right, though

glacial moth
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no he says that she knows more about the game and the lore more than anyone

proper steppe
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Yeah, that isn't specifically Gateway

glacial moth
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wait

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ok then he says that he is gonna make some shit happen just like fortnite but it will happen every where at once

proper steppe
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That also isn't Gateway itself

glacial moth
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wait

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i know

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i am just describing what don is saying

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tap is the only one that knows anything about the story

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some one said maybe she knows what the Gateway is

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he replies Tapwing knows what the gateway is.

icy onyx
#

Dondi did say that Herp.

glacial moth
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she is the only one in the world other than himself that knows what the gateway is

fresh rivet
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Dondi said on the stream that besides himself, tapwing is the only one that knows what the gateway is, and likely many other important lore stuff as well

glacial moth
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but here is the thing

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she knew all that stuff before she became a dev

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because he was speaking in the past when she used to send him art

fresh rivet
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tbh if you look at the concept art dondi showed in this stream most of it reminds me of tapwing's art

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well, not most of it, but many of them

glacial moth
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all bodies are created equal

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all profiles are not

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the better the profile

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the better the body

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and the relationship between the tribals and the replicator is symbiotic

icy onyx
#

I wonder if it is possible increase or do something to your body to make your profile better...
probably a thing you can do.

glacial moth
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so you are supposed to fulfill tasks as a tribal for the repliactor

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so it can collect data

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once done it favors the ones with the better profile

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gives them "benefits"

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I bet the strains come from there

icy onyx
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Some strains like Hyper aren't really a benefit..

glacial moth
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can we trust what dondi says anymore

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because he hid the fact that the cannibals are something else

icy onyx
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I feel like once they are done with their life and have achieve everything they were required then they are reborn or reincarnated, The Replicator will determine if they were more useful then others and grant them something better for example a better profile or more knowledge.

glacial moth
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perhaps

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but it feels so dirty

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so ingenuine

icy onyx
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No.

glacial moth
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like the characters are being used

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you know

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that those benefits

icy onyx
#

It would make sense if the Replicator is an AI.

glacial moth
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are not as equally beneficial to the tribal than it is to the replicator

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and again where does dinosaurs fit into all of this?

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what is in the restricted area

vague inlet
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What if the replicator is a player?

sweet zephyr
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too high of a role.

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makes no sense.

vague inlet
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Who knows

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Like maybe its a monster stronger than a hypo

sweet zephyr
#

...that is highly unlikely.

vague inlet
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Something lore related like echidna

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Well for all we know its superior to everything on the island

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Unless dondi said something otherwise and i missed it

sweet zephyr
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its superior to everything, but it doesn't need to be in strength.

vague inlet
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🤔

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Maybe were overlooking it

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For all we know the replicator could be the screen were we choose the dino we want to spawn in as

eager chasm
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it could be superior simply for the fact that it has control over everything

glacial moth
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Do we know that for sure?

sweet zephyr
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it was hinted at considerably

glacial moth
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If so why would it have a sybaotic relationship with the tribals

vague inlet
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I actually think the spawn menu could be the replicator. If you think about it, since it has ‘control’ over everything, itll limit stuff given to us. And if you look at the difference between dev spawn menus and player spawn menus, the dev spawn menu obviously has more dinos in it. Where as you can say the players spawn menus are more ‘controlled’ in what dinos are put in it. Now lets go back to when dondi said the replicator favors the more smart profiles on the island. If you connect the dots, you can see dondi and the other devs have alot more dinos in its list. To me this could seem like the replicator picked the devs as its favorites. Now i know that sounds stupid and unheard of because of the fact the devs need to test out all the dinos for bugs and stuff, but if you think about it, it technically makes sense

sweet zephyr
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Probably the same comparison between a person and its dog.

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you teach the dog to do what you want it to do.

vague inlet
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Sorry long ass paragraph, hopefully you guys see what im trying to say

sweet zephyr
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and it will do it in order to recieve a reward.

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yet you are always superior to the dog.

glacial moth
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Exactly

sweet zephyr
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tribals worship the replicator

glacial moth
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Are you ?

sweet zephyr
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I mean probably

glacial moth
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Ok so lets say that the relationship was tilted in the favor of the replicator

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What does it need if it’s in control

sweet zephyr
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it has an objective of sorts.

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acquire information, perhaps ?

glacial moth
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Maybe

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We just need to figure the relationship between the gateway the replicator and the owner

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What’s his face

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Dr.vega and his companion

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And to understand the game

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We must base facts

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Meaning we cannot conclude the purpose or reason

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With out knowing the function of each of the gateway and the replicator

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And we also need to know

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What the island is?

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Is it a research facility

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A military base

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And finally we need to figure out why there are enormous fucking monsters roaming the island.

slow delta
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So what was said in the stream specifically?

umbral tusk
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Quite a lot.

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Tribals are cannibals and you’ll be able to gain favor of the replicator by completing things that it wants you to do and by sacrifices. You can sacrifice anyone even if they’re not willing and after you die if you gained enough affinity (I believe) you’ll become something stronger.

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There will also be man-eating plants that can also ‘change you’

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Dondi also stated that in the lore that ‘everything is going to plan’ so there goes that theory for everything going to shit.

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Megalodon and Mosasaurus’ were also confirmed as well as holding and testing facilities in the water.

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There’s clips on twitch if you want things in a detailed manner.

spice coyote
#

Not a Park Confirmed

umbral tusk
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^

slow delta
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Thanks

slow delta
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Btw tribals turn into cannibals it would make sense that the shrines and statues devoted to the cannibals were made by tribals who maybe view them as divine entities or whatnot

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They may worship them or try to appease them

umbral tusk
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The shrines are for the Replicator so that it will favor them.

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Cannibals ARE tribals

slow delta
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I see

gloomy wave
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Cannibals are tribals yes, doesn't mean they arnt worshipped in turn

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They may be something " above " tribals

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Something like the " ultimate tribal "

coarse sonnet
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What is Replicator? A machine with AI that creates dinosaurs?

gloomy wave
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Basically

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It creates dinos, implants human consciousness to them

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And also replicates tribals

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With each death a quote unquote " stronger " version is made

coarse sonnet
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thx. That's why tribals worshipping it.

icy onyx
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🍿

proper steppe
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I saw a lot of baseless speculation from after I left

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Trying to connect this "the owner" character that we have no proof actually exists

icy onyx
#

That does seem useless honestly.

vague inlet
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So say your a full adult rex all grown, and then you get sacrificed and die.

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Would you respawn as a hypo?

icy onyx
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Who knows.

warped coral
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its going to be a lot harder than that to get a strain

vague inlet
#

Magna is the most perfected form of a dino still correct?

grizzled dune
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It was a failed attempt at creating it: B433
Growth Facility For Project All-Father
Project All-Father: Apollo Engineering’s first attempt at creating the perfect organism.
Free of Project Tampering
Project Status: Failed

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Project probably succeeded once khorne replicated it

vague inlet
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Ah yes i remember that

grizzled dune
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emphasis on "Free of Project Tampering "

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I believe Project was misplaced with genetic

vague inlet
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Free of project tampering..

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That could mean it was successful because no one tampered with it

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Right?

grizzled dune
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Nah

glacial moth
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Are we still speculating

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Don’t come to conclusions before knowing the facts

grizzled dune
#

Console most definitely said Free of Genetic Tampering

glacial moth
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The magna?

grizzled dune
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ye,regarding magna

glacial moth
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I am still confused about gateway

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Does it let things in and out

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Does it make stuff

grizzled dune
glacial moth
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Omg lol

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Ok

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So according to google here

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Gateway can mean achieving a state

vocal violet
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So the tribals are more like orcs or very similar things

sinful sable
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Because no one seemed to bring it up

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The radio tower is a design from the 1930s

fossil lily
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🤔

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So maybe AE takes place around the 1930s

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Or well the time period we play the game in

tribal trench
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hmm no

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remember how the transmission said 23 july, 2018 or smth?

gloomy wave
#

A better statement would be

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AE has been around since atleast the 1930

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s

proper steppe
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Maybe that's a better design for a different situation?

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Perhaps that design is an easier radio tower to build?

dusk axle
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maybe its not as easy to destroy or has some implications in physics or telecomunications and wave frequencies

tribal trench
#

(why are there houses in the background, if a hypo rex is there?)

dusk axle
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maybe they are either abandoned or theres a perimetter you cant see

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also the tower, could there be a connection to Blaw knox?

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aparently the way it radiates is developed to reduce fading

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still the way the antena is build, it suggests it was build around 1930s, as how theres a simetry with between the top half and the buttom half

proper steppe
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I assumed the tower itself was a different photo

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It seems like it's mainly there for scale with the hyper

tribal trench
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also the fact that its in black and white-

median hornet
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methinks they are a radio jamming type thing

fossil lily
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It diffidently serves a different purpose then the radio towers we have found on Thenyaw and V3

edgy pike
median hornet
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i wonder about the mental state of the tribals

edgy pike
#

So I reckon as a Tribal/Cannibal, you have your tasks or quests that the replicator gives you, and once you've completed them all you sacrifice yourself in a temple, and you go to the next phase, where maybe you have some better perks or something like that, perhaps you also get gradually less human-looking as time goes on.

median hornet
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especially as they progress

edgy pike
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And by the 15th phase something special happens

proper steppe
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Nobody is mentioning the connection to hades, poseidon

median hornet
#

I think the replicator creates the things we know as echidna and Colossus

edgy pike
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Perhaps unlocking something that would give you a big advantage, but it would take a long time to unlock since you have to do 15 lots of quests?

proper steppe
#

OH!

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This shoots the "cannibals are neuros" theory down hard

median hornet
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4 types imo

edgy pike
#

I though Echinda was the neuro version of a human?

proper steppe
#

I think we're thinking of things too specifically

median hornet
#

Sacrificing and asking for different things might get you some different bodies maybe

proper steppe
#

I think there's more than just magnas, neuros, tissos, and hypers

edgy pike
#

Possibly

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But none that have been revealed yet

proper steppe
#

There's definitely different fuglys present beyond them now

median hornet
#

Oh wait a minute

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I just noticed

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maybe the tribals have been on the island longer than any mercs

edgy pike
#

And remember each entity that AE creates doesn't have to fall into a H/T/N/M classification, they can be their own mismatch of genes

proper steppe
#

I really don't think the tribals were here before the mercs anymore

median hornet
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any reason?

edgy pike
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Depends what you mean by mercs

median hornet
#

because i think the humans came here and experimented on tissues gained from what the tribals create or what the replicator creates using the things the tribals give it

edgy pike
#

Well humans had to make the replicator in the first place

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It's a machine after all

median hornet
#

never stated what kind of machine it is

edgy pike
#

aight so how does a big super consciousness AI thing turn up

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from no where

median hornet
#

how did humans come to be

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from no where?

edgy pike
#

Boats

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Planes

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Helicopters

dusk axle
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i belive tribals become less and less human

median hornet
#

my question is what these temples come from

edgy pike
#

The same way humans have got to any other island

median hornet
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and why the replicator needs said temples to consume

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why not something different

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and how does it output its creations

proper steppe
#

I think the tribals are normal humans that got fucked in some way

edgy pike
#

Maybe AE got some Class D personnel of their own

median hornet
#

hotels

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maybe

edgy pike
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Just take people out of prisons for experimentation

median hornet
#

resort that isnt actaully a resort

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thats why there would be an off limits zone

dusk axle
#

probably by an ancient civilization or something, maybe even with the passing generations of tribals, they became more feral, but at the same time tryied to find an explanation of why were they in the isle, but heres a bigger question, are all beings on the isle a reencarnation of the original tests? or is just a select grouped hosen by the replicator to be able to reincarnate in whatever they evolve too

median hornet
#

i doubt its ancient

dusk axle
#

me too, i think it was built by the tribals themselves, but it changed its purpuse the more inhuman these tribals became

median hornet
#

I wonder about the replicator

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carbon life or a non carbon creature created by humans

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constantly reincarnating itself and learning

ember flame
#

Remember there are no mistakes and that everything is according to plan...

median hornet
#

whats the plan.

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I wonder

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is it simply to create a creature that is perfect?

dusk axle
#

bothe the mind recoverty and incepton are quite intriguing, the bodies are probably clones or some shit like that, but the mind transfer, thats the intriguing part

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mayybe not perfect, but the direct evolution of mankind by force, analysing every posible case scenraio

median hornet
#

Loose wires attached to another thing give the other thing power

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Same id assume for minds

ember flame
#

Every imperfection is in someway what the company or replicator wanted...

median hornet
#

Probably the replicator

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Or it wouldnt kill everything overseeing it

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it would be using the people who created it to further its "plan"

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Instead its using tribals

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Of which could definitely be the people who created it

dusk axle
#

for what Mr.D said, everything is done with a purpuse, everything is planned, there are no mistakes whatsoever, if a facility falls to a group of tribals, or a Hypo breaks loose and destroys a camp or stations, its all part of the bigger plan, there are no mistakes, everything is going accordingly to plan....

median hornet
#

everything on the isle feeds the replicator

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i guess thats #1 of the plan

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the more information it has the further the plan gets

dusk axle
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why i dont get, is if the finnal purpuse of your being is to actually escape the isle or not

median hornet
#

probably not.

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it wouldnt need to

dusk axle
#

so you just become better and better and then what?

median hornet
#

it becoming better?

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or what it creates

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its like an artist

dusk axle
#

im talking from the perspecitve of well, us

median hornet
#

artists use any means to further their creations

dusk axle
#

as whatever we choose, what is our purpuse, to become better and so on, but as individual beings, can we crave for freedom or something like that

median hornet
#

Hm

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speculation on the dinosaurs

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we know the replicator created them

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but just from looking at a skeleton?

dusk axle
#

but then who build the replicator?

proper steppe
#

He's asking if the player will want to escape the island

dusk axle
#

or has the replicator always been it?

proper steppe
#

if escape is the final goal

median hornet
#

depends on who you play

dusk axle
#

and eternal bimechanic being, a god?

median hornet
#

what is your goal

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as a merc we still have no clue what our objective is

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hell we coulda just been sent there to die

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if thats the case then you would want to fucking get off the island

dusk axle
#

that is if you are the only one out of the hive mind, what if the humans, the mercs are actually controlled by the replicator?

median hornet
#

As i speculated earlier if the replicator is ai, and has pawns to please its every wish, maybe it has the ability to call in these people

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for further testing

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Maybe those diamond shaped towers could be transmission towers created by it

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or radio blockers to make the people outside question whats going on in the island

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causing them to send people in

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also this isnt a nationality were dealing with here, obviously because the name mercs

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so these people sending them in would either be a group or organization connected to the happenings on the island, or the replicator as stated above

dusk axle
#

or maybe the replicator is trying to reemake the isle walker, for some reason, maybe the replicator is the one that created life in the first place, and its a second coming of some sort, or its being controlled by humans

median hornet
#

id doubt it created life itself

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as seen it can cause people to do its bidding

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and greed is a mighty large force

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i wonder what the organization behind this is

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behind the testing

proper steppe
#

AE

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We also don't play as mercs, to our knowledge

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we control profiles

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unless I'm confused

dusk axle
#

so maybe mercs arent really human, but created by the replicator itself

median hornet
#

nah im pretty sure the mercs are human

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depends on how you get to the island

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concepts were shown of ways to get in

dusk axle
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so, if theres a way in, theres a way out

tribal trench
#

how are you so sure?

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maybe all this island walker stuffs aren't anywhere else because they can't leave. Only stuff can get into the islands, maybe. but this is probably all wrong GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

proper steppe
#

We should probably start working on logging in again

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Apparently there are people who have managed to get good at it

dusk axle
#

you have to mess with the files and stuff to logg in i think

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but idk

tribal trench
edgy pike
#

Since Dondi referred to the cycle of living and sacrificing yourself as a "phase", would that have any link to the Poseidon/hades etc. thing? Or just the same usage of the word "phase"?

glacial moth
#

Hmm

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It’s all pure speculation

fossil lily
#

Dondi said

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Phase 2 was starting

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A while back

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Well not that long ago

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So what I am assuming is

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we will soon need to find a way to break through phase 1 and enter phase 2

slow delta
#

In one of the files it says suicide a bunch of times and kill once

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Maybe these are steps to be taken?

fossil lily
#

Probably best to wait till the next dev branch

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cause it seems like they are adding things to V3

slow delta
#

Hmmm

fossil lily
#

Hopefully if new stuff get added to the map

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That means more codes

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And more stuff for us to update the google doc with

slow delta
#

Yeah ikr

blissful plume
#

So had this idea pop into my had, what if the mutated trees transform the apex's (rex, giga and spino) into a hypo, tisso or nuro. It would be rare, you would most likely die or be maned but there is a rare chance you would be transform. Now, what if in the timeline they discovered this occurrence and wanted to improve upon the hypo due to its unbalanced hunger, so they made the magna rex.

gloomy wave
#

I'm like 99% sure that's not the case

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Even if it sounds like a good theory

tribal trench
vocal flare
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maybe the hypo trees are the cause of hypo dinos>

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like a carni ate a trike that just ate a piece of it's bark

gloomy wave
#

Wat

vocal flare
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and that cause mutations

gloomy wave
#

What hypo trees ?

vocal flare
#

there will be strain trees

gloomy wave
#

No ?

blissful plume
#

Yes

gloomy wave
#

Again, No ?

blissful plume
#

It was on stream

gloomy wave
#

It was never said they'd be strain trees

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You're kinda jumping the gun

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He said they'd change you in ways you though impossible, could just mean they give perks if anything

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Strains where never mentioned when plants where around

tribal trench
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or in bad ways

blissful plume
#

^

gloomy wave
#

Point being strains were never apart of that particular conversation

blissful plume
#

We are not sure what the trees will do to us, this is just a theory. as far as we know, they can just kill us and give us nothing or turn us into bigger monsters

gloomy wave
#

I'm pretty sure those trees don't have any effect on giving strains either way. I don't think it'd be " that easy "

tribal trench
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yeah uh

blissful plume
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well they to take, melt and kill things close to it. Thats why I said it would be rare if someone is mutated

tribal trench
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don said you wouldn't even KNOW how you got the strain the first time

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so..

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also making it RNG is stupid

blissful plume
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Well if everyone was able to be a hypo then it would be a hell on the island. you can say make the requirements harder but people will abuse the system no matter what.

gloomy wave
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Still rmg is stupid either way

raven stag
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I was thinking that the giant tower that made hypos look like babies were made for tracking things

fossil lily
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The strains seem to be made on purpose

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And I remember Dondi saying something along the line these plants will kill you

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I doubt carnivores would transform from these plants

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I and I also doubt these strain plants are very widespread hence them being contained in a building

umbral tusk
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He said that some of the plants would change you, or remove parts of you that you didn’t know you had, melt you or kill you.

fossil lily
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True

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But to the theory of them causing Carnivores to turn into hypos I doubt that

spice coyote
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parts of you that you didnt know you had

cool beans what's being harvested from dinosaurs?

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dog spleens and elephant livers, calling it now

fresh rivet
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(to the guy saying strains were never mentioned when plants where around, they were mentioned, Dondi said some plants were made with the same strains that affected dinosaurs. So we'll have deadly plants, but no mention on if they could turn you into strains)

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also: "parts of you you didn't know you had"

Guess that magic is lost when you study a health related career (veterinary here).
I'm exited to see how they'll turn out, the plant mechanics. I'm exited in general. But I'm expecting more of something that wasn't mentioned

glacial moth
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So Dondi did say that the strains that made the dinosaurs are the same that made those trees

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And that not everything that will kill you will be fauna

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Now for the interesting part, he said that those trees could take away things from you that you did not know that you had

median hornet
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the replicator created everything unknown on the island

glacial moth
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Well they are man made

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Now

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Tbh that last statement about the trees is very interesting

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Because I am assuming that they will both be harmful and beneficial at the same time

wicked belfry
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The 'parts you never knew you had' could possibly also refer to affinity and how it adjusts. I'm sure affinity would at least tie into the fauna somehow

tribal trench
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Affinity was confirmed to be not related to lore, Don said it

wicked belfry
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I mean just from a gameplay perspective. Like what it does to you could depend on how high or low your affinity is, or it might raise or lower it on its own.

sweet zephyr
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doubt the last part.

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that would be dumb.

wicked belfry
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Yeah, I don't think it'd do that, but I could see it doing different things depending on how high your affinity is.

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Like, if your affinity is too low, it just kills you.

umbral tusk
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I think it’d just kill you if you ran into the wrong plant at the wrong time kind of scenario.

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If you gained too low of affinity, it’ll just turn you into an albino.

tribal trench
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Man I love this lore theory^

sullen terrace
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I don't know if someone brought this up already (probably)
but what if you need human intervention to become a strain
like, you need to be captured - brought into some kind of facility - and then you are experimented on

gloomy wave
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Brought up and quickly shot down. It makes sense lore-wise but it'd be a chore for people without " friends " to do it. And why would strangers make an impossibly strong creature that'd try to kill them whenever ?

vocal storm
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Funny how it's usually the case in stories.

gloomy wave
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Cuz stories think that they can control said creatures

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Here we know we can't

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And even lorewise they know

vocal storm
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I suppose. But isn't taming/enslaving dinosaurs a thing?
It would be interesting if some strong/special tribals could enslave strains.

gloomy wave
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You can't. Asked on the QA stream and Dondi said " They're not made to be controlled " or something along these lines

vocal storm
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Ah, I see. Fair enough then

gloomy wave
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I guess those plants are the only lead we know so far

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We don't know exactly what strains are, like how the " strain " itself is made, and how it " contaminates " Dinos and plants

sullen terrace
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but the humans have to get something out of mutating things cause otherwise they would not have done it in the past, maybe they get some kind of benefit from it we dont know of

vapid robin
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Maybe technology, like how we can create sticky stuff like phone holders for in cars by studying gecko's paws

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Though idk what technology a dino would produce

vocal storm
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Or maybe it's all alien and humans didn't create it - only study it dondiThink

vapid robin
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Or we might find proof that the world is run by lizard people dondiTroll

vocal storm
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Le gasp

gloomy wave
pallid junco
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Have we learned much regarding what each strain does to an animal or plant? Not just the obvious “hyper makes things big and hungry, Neuro makes things squishy and electrically funky” type stuff, but stuff like why the hyper giga has adapted to have multiple rows of jaws designed to shred things, or why the T. rex has adapted its jaws to become even stronger and its healing regen to be even better than before? And not have t the other way around?

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I guess what I’m tryna ask is, why do the strains effect different species so drastically? If that makes any sense

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I get from a gameplay standpoint it would need to be done so they aren’t redundant, but what from a lore standpoint would add to this?

gloomy wave
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For giga it'd facilitate its hunting needs if going for theropods ( is it theropods ? Or sauropod ? Can't remember ) and bleeding them out, makes sense since that's what they do. But then again we don't know enough on strains to tell that from a lore perspective

eternal tide
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This is probably completely wrong, but I'm going to post some theories I have here about the canonically lore and how it would connect to gameplay.

earnest glade
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Well from what I can gather, the actual strain itself, enhances and adds to what that specific predator needs, and takes away what it doesn't. For example, take the nuero spino. It has incredible abilities, such as a weather changing ability so it can't be tracked, nor can it really be seen in the dead of night. But to compensate, it lost its eyes.

eternal tide
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There's Tribals, Survivors, Mercenaries, Cannibals, and the strain things that were originally thought to be cannibals, but are still sometimes called cannibals right?

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Survivors are the outsiders stranded on the isle without any protection obviously, possibly forced to by the modern civilization who has actively developed on the isle

earnest glade
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But there are obviously downfalls to this, as we can see with the Hyperendocrin strains, and there constant need to eat and consume

eternal tide
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Mercenaries could be actively employed to go onto the isle's modern human government to capture or kill dinosaurs or other noteworthy things and are heavily armed

placid harness
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I feel like the mercs are just on cleanup duty.

eternal tide
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Tribals would be the native population of people, similar to native americans or other rural human populations, but we know from new maps that they are in active worship of the replicator

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There's the cannibal orc thing, which looks to be human but heavily deformed from an unknown means, possibly related to a population of tribals who sacrifice their own kind

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The strain is probably the outcome of the replicator selecting a cannibal or tribal worthy of being a strain, starting with the smaller thing and but getting bigger with more effort

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It's been alluded to that strains possibly are related to plants of an unknown origin

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What if the sacrifices are actually fertilizer for said plants?

placid harness
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It would be pretty eldritch if the replicator was something remotely organic in nature and had to "feast" on things to keep running or do whatever it does now.

eternal tide
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So the tribals/cannibals/etc have to actually grow one of these things to a certain extent before it actually yields transforming something into a strain

tribal trench
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@eternal tide the orc thing is a tribal

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tribal = cannibal

eternal tide
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So the tribal model ingame is just a placeholder right

tribal trench
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yes

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its an asset from the store I believe

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don said no mayan shit

gloomy wave
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Mayan is stoopid

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Give me my orc

ember flame
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The orc monkey tribal design looks great

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Are the tribal humans even the same species of human?

snow solar
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perhaps only vaguely. or they were, once upon a time?

pastel path
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Probably

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They may have just been modified by Apollo or the replicator

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Or just inbred

pallid jewel
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Anyone know anything about the Morse code going off at radio tower. Sorry if this has already been figured out I don't go to this place a lot.

fossil lily
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Look at the pinned google doc

arctic rune
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Tribals are what the ecosystem reacted with to things man has created, but this is only a game theory

lusty citrus
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maybe tribals and “cannibals” (not sure what to call them anymore) are “related” in the sort of way that the Forsworn and Hagravens are related in TESV: Skyrim. Are they the same creature? No; Forsworn are just tribal-like humans (with the exception of the Briarhearts, though they are just slightly altered humans). Hagravens, however, are magically mutated humans that have undergone a unique ritual to become more powerful at the expense of losing their humanity. So when Dondi mentioned that you can sacrifice yourself to continue to the nest phase of life, one of these phases might be evolving into the creature we've known as the “cannibal” for all this time.

Is this a totally insane crackpot theory? Probably. Just wanted to put it here on the super unlikely chance that it becomes even vaguely true. Feel free to chew me out if you think this is a shitty theory 🤷

tribal trench
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call the blinds guys... well,, blind guys

lusty citrus
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blind boys

gloomy wave
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I had a similar theory where Cannibals ( why wonder on the name ? ) where something akin to a superior tribal. Which would explain the few altars and whatnot on the island

lusty citrus
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you've seen the latest tribal/cannibal reveal, right?

tribal trench
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tribals are cannibals, the blind guys are something else.

lusty citrus
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we're wondering on the name since dondi said 'these things arent cannibals'

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I doubt the fanbase has a decent name to call them for now so I'm just gonna call them 'cannibals' till then

tribal trench
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no

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blind guys

lusty citrus
ember flame
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The wendigo of the isle

gloomy wave
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@lusty citrus yes I know

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But them actually being called something else doesn't mean we can't call them cannibal until they're actual name is found out

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I'm not calling them blind guys dondiSquint

lusty citrus
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LOL yeah

icy onyx
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What about Hyperendocrin Homo Sapian?

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or hypo human

tribal trench
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That's the colossus

high heath
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So...plants in the enviornment can get strains as well?

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And Humanity created the strains, right?

carmine marsh
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we dont know... sounds like it the replicator made the strains tho

spice coyote
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assuming the replicators' not a space alien 👽

sharp frigate
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👀

earnest glade
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👀

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No aliens here. Just some crazy ass science

pallid junco
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with how certain things are worded regarding the replicator, it sounds as though it may be some form of sentient being, and not just an ai of some form. or not a basic ai, i mean

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because i've heard a lot of "gaining the replicator's favor" and a couple of other phrases i can't remember off the off of my head that personify it, kinda

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so what if the replicator isn't a thing, but a status for someone?

placid harness
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I wouldn't be surprised if it ended being some biomechanical H.R. Giger thing

chilly sigil
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I think the humanoids and I use this term specifically that we known as cannibals are mutated tribals by the plant that can change you as Dondi said.
The thing is if it was a next "phase" it would be a downgrade as you would no longer be able to use weapons which caused humans to rule over animals

icy onyx
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what if those “plants that change you in ways you didn’t think were possible” turn humans into those weird dinosaur human hybrid cannibal things .. and the use of a gas mask is to prevent that?

stark yoke
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That would be assuming that they would do it using some kind of spore. We don't know that. What if it reaches out and grabs you instead?

tribal trench
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@chilly sigil cannibals = tribals my dude

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the orc lookin fucks

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they're cannibals, and they'rre tribals

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the blind guys are somethin else

chilly sigil
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Yeah but they are being reffered to as cannibals

tribal trench
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i'd rather call them blind guys

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to avoid confusion

buoyant heart
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hmmm

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o-o

crisp ermine
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Why do i keep hearing of plants with strains, did i miss something?

blissful willow
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There's plants

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That were given the same strains as the animals

crisp ermine
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Ok

static crater
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They'll change you in ways you didn't even know possible

median hornet
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Same strains

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lmao

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they just aren't normal plants.

static crater
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and?

median hornet
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strains in their own prospects

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where did it come from that they have the same shit as dinosaurs

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they arent fauna

static crater
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"There are plants that are derived from the same strains that make dinosaurs in this game"

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something along those lines

median hornet
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probably something like the Strains

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Id guess not the same

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Spaz plants wouldnt be a bad thing then

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Hyperendocrine function where they spaz out when they sense a living creature and become like a fucking spiky ball while also impaling the prey, then sprouting flowers or fruit of which spawns other ones, then the original plant dies

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bet

static crater
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when

median hornet
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i wish for it

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its not a thing

full urchin
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I dont know if this is old or if someone already found it, but in The Isle's loading screen when joining a server, there is 2 words that I found, one being "Forever" and the other being "seeking" There might be more words so help me keep looking. It could mean something. Just something I seen.

fresh rivet
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That has been looked upon already. Idk if there’s a full list of the words they’ve found

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I think there was

full urchin
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Hm, ok.

pallid junco
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There’s quite a few words in that DNA sequence stuff in the bg of loading screens

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I saw “wait” and “joke” at some point

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I’ll have to take a deeper look into it next time I play, but I suspect it’s different messages in each loading screen

full urchin
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Haven't noticed those yet

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I'm for sure gonna keep looking for more words.

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Joke forever, seeking wait

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lol

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hm

ebon basalt
tribal trench
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^

glacial moth
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I cannot choose favorites.

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what an interesting phrase

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something the dondi told us it does

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guys where you playing allo when you died?

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the 15th cycle

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do you have to die 15 times

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and what is the apollo core

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Guys an Idea just came to me

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I was reading the script

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and I saw "YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD"

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and at first I thought nothing of it, perhaps it was a funny refence to JP

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but then i thought, What if it was not a reference, but the key to us finding a way into the system

tribal trench
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you're saying stuff that has already been found

glacial moth
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am i

tribal trench
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yes

glacial moth
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so your saying there is no one that we could talk to

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that knows the key into the backdoor of the system

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just like Nedry?

tribal trench
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/when did I say that/

glacial moth
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sorry about that

severe lark
glacial moth
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but it seems like plausable idea

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someone who knows a way in

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but I am assuming that maybe we need to provoke him or her into talking

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like a reward

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you know just like nedry

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so guys what do you think

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that's that for this idea

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a big question mark would be he cortex corruption level

chilly sigil
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@tribal trench Thing is though, they are humanoids so I'd say blind humanoids or the next apex

tribal trench
arctic rune
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Tell Tapwing to spill the beans

glacial moth
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but what if we are being mislead

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plus

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Allosaurus seems to be mentioned alot

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so does the t.rex

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TRX 8443

umbral tusk
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Wasn’t 8443 that number on the pole in the building from that one transmission?