I'm pretty sure there's a facility in antartica
#isle-lore-theories
gloomy viper
icy onyx
😮
gloomy viper
I went through a lot of tracking and somehow found links between highlighted areas on the globe
Had something to do with atmospheric stuff
alright time to dumb so tall i will space fly missile 👍
icy onyx
anyone make any new theories using the stuff from last night?
wicked belfry
Calling it Tartarus makes the most sense with "prison of the Titans" for me. Though I'm interested in if Typhon could be involved in some way. After his battle with Zeus, he's described as either being cast into Tartarus or buried under either Mt. Etna or the island of Ischia.
gloomy viper
Hmmm
wicked belfry
Well, the large ribcage appears to be a sauropod of some kind
icy onyx
yes like a spino almost
gloomy viper
I think tartarus is underground, even if only partially
icy onyx
no
ur almost right
i think that the main portion of their laboritory is underground
gloomy viper
I said even if only partially does that count
icy onyx
there is no ware as of yet that is big enough to fit those rooms
wicked belfry
Given that Typhon is described as serpentine and sauropods having long necks, you could argue that there's a connection there. If it's indeed a sauropod, which seems to be suggested given the length of spine past what looks to be shoulders.
gloomy viper
hM
icy onyx
found on some mountain sides
maybe later they will be accessible by humans or raptors or whatever and maybe they could expand into the lab?
it would make since to have your lab in a mountain
less you have to defend from ur dinos in case of emergency
where on the island is this?
wicked belfry
And also underground makes all of yoyr shady secrety secrets all the more shady and secretly secret
wicked belfry
Not enough to base of off
median hornet
That pic is not in snow
icy onyx
where?
median hornet
absolutely no clue
icy onyx
i wanna see where it is :/
median hornet
its in a marsh
gloomy viper
if its in the snow
median hornet
or a swamp of some kind
wicked belfry
There looks like snow, but is that water to the right side?
Looks choppy like waves
novel kindle
i believe that was one of tapwing's art pieces so just have to find the original to see the landscape
icy onyx
but the camera scratches lead to a trouble in deciphering what is actual stuff in the pic and what is a blemish etc..
novel kindle
pretty sure the one they made had color
novel kindle
im pretty sure
novel kindle
the one of them dissecting the neuro spino is tap's as well i think
icy onyx
in which case we can get more info on location...
omg
that one
that is it
it's a link
it is labeled "failed neurotonic experiments"
maybe that is the same one they are dissecting?
found it
it is on the beach
interesting..
maybe not underground...
a new map?
novel kindle
what
oops
sent that early
what's that last one? i dont remember anyone ever posting that, but then again i dont pay much attention
icy onyx
it is tapwing's
it is labeled "we need to talk"
and a lot of tapwing's stuff is cannon now sooo
tribal trench
FYI not ALL tap's art is the isle related...
gloomy viper
Is there a highlighted spot in asia @icy onyx
tribal trench
I'm talking about this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/475350642005639170/we_need_to_talk_by_tapwing-dc0ese9.jpg
that's not isle related
icy onyx
ya.. i guess not
novel kindle
doesnt look like isle to me honestly, yeah
tribal trench
nothing shows it beingg isle related...
wicked belfry
Nothing screams "the isle" to me there
tribal trench
jeeps = the isle right guys xD?
icy onyx
being chased by the hypo
wicked belfry
Jeeps front looks different in both pics
tribal trench
^
gloomy viper
Is there a highlighted spot in asia @icy onyx
icy onyx
ya ik i just posted i see it now xD
i got u erythrura
spot in asia
what about that?
:/
gloomy viper
Matriarch?
tribal trench
I believe, in my personal opinion, that is the huge ribs creature's prototype or offspring. Just personal opinion though.
either that or matriach imo.
icy onyx
maybe but look here
tribal trench
I mean, the ribs could very well BE the matriarhc.
icy onyx
oh nvrmind
tribal trench
matriarch.
gloomy viper
That has the same spines as the creature ribcage
tribal trench
though probably not
gloomy viper
Matriarchs start out small and get huge
icy onyx
yea matriarch's ribs are different
tribal trench
matriarch
icy onyx
tetanurae matriarch
tribal trench
tapwing's concept.
icy onyx
yea
tribal trench
not sure if it was before she joined dev team.
icy onyx
but it is small :/
icy onyx
i mean
novel kindle
she was making them before she became a dev, yeah
icy onyx
that one is super recent sooo
wicked belfry
Even if so, taking into account the size of the ribcage and the fact that we don't have a fully clear shot in that pic, mostly just the shape, I don't think we have enough evidence to say the ribcages are shaped differently.
gloomy viper
Matriarchs start off VERY small
icy onyx
lemme check again
muted steppe
Tapwing's Matriarch did that. No word on what the official one does.
tribal trench
^
gloomy viper
Oh
icy onyx
To confirm foreign development the team located and recalled one of our active Matriarchs to compare how the ‘caged’ and ‘wild’ specimens develop.
The cage Matriarch grew only slightly and remained physically unchanged. The wild specimen however, grew substantially and adapted common traits of theropoda. Losing it’s wings and developing denser structure along with a more muscular build that serve it in grappling or climbing.
Some unknown growths spark concern, but nothing outside of the current margin of error
hmm
maybe ribcage is adult
and this
muted steppe
Plus Don said if he was to add hers, he'd call it something else.
As for the thing in a glass box earlier... I find it odd, since it wasn't Isle related in the first place.
tribal trench
I just said that will.
icy onyx
is the secound, caged one
tribal trench
Why you gotta steal my stuff?
Alsooo I doubt the ribs/the caged thing are matriarch
icy onyx
i guess but it did say it developed theropod features
tribal trench
will...
tribal trench
"The cage Matriarch grew only slightly and remained physically unchanged. The wild specimen however, grew substantially and adapted common traits of theropoda. Losing it’s wings and developing denser structure along with a more muscular build that serve it in grappling or climbing.
Some unknown growths spark concern, but nothing outside of the current margin of error"
is in reference to tap's concept..
the 4 I just posted earlier.
they're in order
icy onyx
oh lol xD
gloomy viper
@icy onyx Is there a spot on the globe near this?
muted steppe
Well, you didn't put them in the correct order, but not important
gloomy viper
Is anywhere in turkey highlighted?
tribal trench
bhal why you bully me 
gloomy viper
Actually, post some pics of the globes
tribal trench
it's flying one to flying raptor one to raptor one to mid-sized carnivore looking one right
icy onyx
oh and bottom left
you see the island
it looks to also have a dot i just forgot to circle
gloomy viper
afk
regal sundial
The matriarch develops based upon the traits of what it feeds on
icy onyx
mk ima go eat brb
tribal trench
wicked belfry
Bowser's having a bad time on the Isle...
icy onyx
The locating thing is interesting...
tribal trench
I mean poor deino... but anyways I feel like that's matriarch. resembles a rex (also says locating tyrannosauroidea-M, which stands for Magna rex). It also looks like it MIGHT have more than 2 arms
muted steppe
That was the teaser for Tap's 4th Matriarch stage.
Tied in with the description of it.
tribal trench
poor deino tho
icy onyx
Ya lol
gloomy viper
Found another location
The highlighted area of turkey, seems to be Ploutonion Hierapolis
proper steppe
I'm pretty sure many of these highlighted spots are side effects of the globe being transparent in places
gloomy viper
don't you dare
so its just coincidence that some of them are actually linked and some highlight places like a place that was thought to be a gate to hell :c
wicked belfry
I think a bigger question is, how could this relate to the isle itself?
gloomy viper
I think the replicator is an AI
wicked belfry
Like, maybe if it is something, it doesn't impact the lore much.
It could be fossil dig sites for example
gloomy viper
Actually, one of them is a giant meteor crater
Thought to have caused the extinction and end of the dinosaurs
wicked belfry
And also, to the circles near the top it seems it's a case of transparency.
wicked belfry
If you look at the west coast of the US it appears to glow, but it looks like its just because of the globe turning it into frame
proper steppe
If you're mentioning the "crater" in anarctica
that isn't the one thought to kill the dinosaurs
gloomy viper
y not tho
gloomy viper
but
there were seperate periods
jurassic, triassic, efdesafwsegasrggsdgwe
ignore that last one
gloomy viper
there could have been 2
proper steppe
The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs has a crater in mexico
it's called the Chicxulub crater
gloomy viper
this one has a crater too
and its twice the size of the Chixulub crater
2.5 times*
crisp ermine
If im not mistaken from triassic to jurassic is just the evolution of creatures, no metiorite
icy onyx
That's what I thought aswell
wicked belfry
Yeah, that's the basic idea of eras.
It's just that meteors tend to speed that kinda thing up xD
gloomy viper
sdforews9fjsr0gkorpskrq
sudden prawn
Okay.
gloomy viper
dinner person why did your company break everything]
proper steppe
No, there's a triassic-jurassic extinction event
there's no jurassic-cretaceous extinction event, though
sweet zephyr
?
icy onyx
hidden words in the dna look
sweet zephyr
go on
icy onyx
what does it mean? xD
twin vale
that you should check the pinned messages in future
sweet zephyr
true
tribal trench
there's many more words, in pinned
icy onyx
what does it mean?
tribal trench
check pinned messages
sweet zephyr
I wish I knew
tribal trench
icy onyx
in this doc they dont mention the glode highlights
tribal trench
yes because we don't know if they mean anything and it hasn't been updated since you said that 
proper steppe
I don't think the globe highlights are anything
tribal trench
^
icy onyx
we need to look into geological and astronomical matches
herp i think they are locations
proper steppe
I'm not even sure all of them are highlights, a lot of them seem like results of the transparent globe having overlapping dots
icy onyx
yea the upper ones a lot aren't highlights but the mid ones are
proper steppe
Ok
proper steppe
And they probably correspond with that map on the menu
icy onyx
maybe
tribal trench
They do correspond.
tribal trench
how does that help exactly
icy onyx
🤷
tribal trench
😐
tribal trench
icy onyx
and some are historically evil places
also
a lot of them are on islands
like tasmania
and new Zealand
not saying tasmania or new zealand are the "evil" places
icy onyx
no...
gloomy viper
oh ok
gloomy viper
Tasmania linked up to the south america point
And the south america point linked to antarctica
icy onyx
during pangea?
gloomy viper
No, I was looking at atmosphere related things about Tasmania
gloomy viper
Oh what, they also link up in pangea?
gloomy viper
x-files theme
gloomy viper
yes.
gloomy viper
but why does it have to be related to their extinction?
icy onyx
well
riddle me this
why make the isle locations where a meteor hit? :/
when the meteor amounted to not very much to do with dinos..
gloomy viper
The meteor could have a rare element
icy onyx
why is there no visable crater in game then?
gloomy viper
Well the crater is around 300 miles big
icy onyx
ima go now be back later probs
think over the location
try to find anything they might share
byeee
little cedar
Nah. It was the Siberian traps that caused the Permian Extinction.
shy basin
Why not both
The meteor hit and at the same time the shit in Siberia happened
The Siberian traps where active for a really long time frame
Like for humans unimaginably long
shy basin
icy onyx
:/
no
it would have too have been sitting there for hundreds of millions of years
doing nothing
never being noticed
until they where just randomly found magicaly one day
AFTER the sites from pangea had separated
placid harness
:/
lol yes
Considering some of the other planned things for this game, I wouldn't call it exactly ludicrous.
icy onyx
i would
placid harness
By the way, wasn't there something called the Primordial?
icy onyx
when
placid harness
Maybe that name is supposed to hint at its age.
icy onyx
idk
hearty mulch
Something is called The Primordial
placid harness
And I don't see why some giant fictional... kaiju, basically, couldn't just be dormant for so long.
Assuming the Primordial is actually one of the large things mentioned.
icy onyx
oh wait
my idea might link too that
maybe it was buried in the mountain
and that is why the lab is in the mountain presumably?
shy basin
Or you know it's not alive anymore but traces of something primordial remain and can be studied
shy basin
And with the power of generic Sci fi technology number 9 thousand we can maybe even recreate something
shy basin
Yes no may haps
placid harness
Maybe it just had something they needed.
placid harness
Is Phoenix still canon, or what?
umbral tusk
😐 Phoenix is part of the main story line, is it not?
echo gazelle
no
icy onyx
phoenix was supposed to be an homage to another game but the relationship kinda broke down...
another game cough primal carnage cough had phoenix in it
pearl palm
covert chasm
i can see a head in the top one but i cant make out the entire creature
bottom one just looks like a mess to me
might be a hypo giga or something]
or hypo carno but i cant tell if thats horns or static
sharp frigate
looks like hyper carno
wicked belfry
Hypo carno is gonna make carno's arms EVEN STUBBIER and I'll be disapppointed if it doesn't.
tribal trench
wicked belfry
They just become little nubs
tribal trench
... No
They become long spikes
I'll show u in a bit
When I get home, I'll send the hypo carnk
Carno
Not long spikes
But yeah
wicked belfry
Sssshhhh. Let me have my nubby armed hypo carno
nevet
half sinew
Let me have my actual theories
icy onyx
No dip
tribal trench
glacial rover
@copper kestrel thanks
coral aspen
Anyone think, from the morse code, the 15th cycle from the moon and hypos are connected? There has to be a way to get hypos later on, so maybe some radioactive things at the radio tower on the 15th cycle at the moon will have something to do with creating hypos in the future. Just my 2 cents.
pastel path
It’s a hypo carno
icy onyx
It’s very likely that the 15th cycle doesn’t refer to the moon. Before in earlier transmissions it was referred to cannibals.
hasty prism
I feel like those carno horns can annoy him while eating, or even with vision
slow delta
Hyper strain+human= colossus
Neuro strain+human= echidna
Tisso strain + human = reaper
Magna + human = ???
timber bison
magna isn't really a mutation, just "natural" evolution of dinosaurs, Dondi said they are deifferent things
tribal trench
slow delta
well you can naturally evolve humans too
whatever you apply to make a magna, do the same for humans
god the strain lore is so cool
we need more clues
it'd be dope
so far i think we're waiting for the dockyard thing
awaiting that signal which will probably be in an update
timber bison
magna tribal is mercenary men
hard pecan
magna human is... an interesting concept if they truly are a sort of erasure of evolutionary faults and enhancement of attributes, because what all could you do with humans? possibly a hivemind complex, to make our adaptability and social intelligence at max efficiency, but perhaps thats whats already going on, with the echidna as a queen, and the others her warriors, drones, tanks, assassins, etc etc.
and in some sort of twisted way, all the human strains are magna, except with different traits for their role in the hive
crisp ermine
So, we think that canibals arent strain + human
Echidna = neuro + human
Reaper = tisso + human
As far that i know it hasnt been confirmed that colossus = hyper + human
tribal trench
its called "hypo colossus" bud
reaper is called tisso reaper, echidna is neuro echidna
crisp ermine
Hyper + possible human
Reaper and echidna are confirmed human + strain
The colossus idk
fresh rivet
colossus is confirmed human
proper steppe
It wasn't confirmed but it seems the most likely
nimble cape
Makes sense
considering there are two other human-type strains
there would be one corresponding to each
collossus is just a bit more off than the others considering how large it is compared to an actual human
Most hypers aren't that much bigger than their normal counterparts
usually only like 2x bigger
nimble cape
from what we've seen with the other hypers
Yeah exactly
Which is why it's kind of weird
nimble cape
because the size difference between it and a human is massive compared to the size difference of say, a carno and hyper carno
¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's the most logical guess
but for all we know it might not just be all human or might be some other weird shit
One thing I do wonder is how cannibals fit into all this
I don't think they are a strain but they are pretty different
tribal trench
They're stoners
nimble cape
maybe just general genetic tampering or accident
pallid junco
something im just whiping out here that has almost no evidence to support, but i hwhip out anyway: what if those three are actually strain + cannibal? the latest tweets regarding the the cannibals seem to suggest that people had devolved into them due to some unknown. so they'd still technically be human, but at the same time, not, ya dig? and it'd also make at least a tiny bit more sense with collosus being unusually large for a hypo human, since A. the cannibals technically aren't humans at that point, and B. we don't even know the sizes for the reaper and echnidna yet
im sure theres something im missing here, but im just pointing it out anyway
nimble cape
Good point
I've thought of that as well
they might be strains of cannibals
One thing I just don't understand if how humans would devolve into a cannibal without any actual tampering
Doesn't make any sense to me unless it's something that actually tampers with their DNA
pallid junco
tbh
i dont think ive seen anything saying echidna was just a neuro human/cannibal
and 1. echidna in greek mythology is referred to as the mother of monsters and 2. she's referred to as the mother of cannibals in TI's lore stuffs. at least for the earlier things i have seen of her
so perhaps she's got something to do with it
nimble cape
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pallid junco
be it the creation of the cannibals, or the source of all mutant strains
just depends on how you take the "mother of __" bits
nimble cape
Yeah
Can be interpreted as actually "birthing" them or just simply taking care of them / watching over them, etc,
umbral tusk
or that she's the first mutation that was successfully implemented in a live organism and then they made the other... cannibals(?) from her.
but that's just a theory,,, a game theory
on a better note, on the bottom right there's a sign - can anyone make out what it says?
fresh rivet
where?
umbral tusk
Bottom right corner
icy onyx
one sec
in that?
i don't see any sign xD
but looks here
that valley
it is important
it is every ware :/
another pic was some ware else
nimble cape
Did you mean the sign on the top left of the main menu?
icy onyx
fresh rivet
tbh i'm not sure if she meant the apply button, but that'd be too much
icy onyx
that might also be the same vally here
nimble cape
lol
icy onyx
any ideas on the valley?
pallid junco
top left
not bottom right
there's a sign on the main menu screen
none of the little monitor screens
icy onyx
ok
lemme see...
one sec
something
then only
so probs like
authorized personel
only
since you can see the "on"
presumably from personel
hope that helped
icy onyx
what sign then xD
tribal trench
That's probably nothing lol
icy onyx
ya...
might be something actually
i can't read it though xD
lol rip
wait
i can get at it
tribal trench
umbral tusk
Might say Warning
sudden prawn
@icy onyx That’s V3
icy onyx
the valley?
tribal trench
It's not the same place but ok
icy onyx
ok THAT makes since
i was so confused xD
ok nevermind that then here is ur warning sign
tribal trench
Either way
If there's 2 clips with the same place..
You shouldn't overreact over it
icy onyx
i was just confused xD
icy onyx
lol
there ya go
i wonder what happens when you try to place the isle on a projector... xD
tribal trench
wicked belfry
Maybe by doing that we can see if the devs hid anything under the map. That's where they'd put all their secrets after all. https://i.imgflip.com/1khwq4.jpg?a425928
proper steppe
@pallid junco I'm a day late, but the console itself said that Echidna and Reaper were both experiments on humans
slow delta
But that may be outdated now
proper steppe
Literally the only origins we've actually heard from a canonical source
wtf are you on about?
slow delta
the console also mentions phoenix stuff, novaraptors etc
which is why i think its at least partially outdated
tribal trench
Erm
I doubt echidna, reaper and colossus arent human experiments, or atleast cannibal ones
proper steppe
The Phoenix stuff is outdated because Primal Carnage gave The Isle a bad deal
there is no such situation for Echidna and Reaper being humans
crisp ermine
Reaper: tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.
Echidna: neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen.
This was said in a stream a little over an year ago
I believe it is still accurate but it is possible that its outdated
slow delta
if a cannibal has enhanced abilities it would make sense that echidna,reaper and colo are cannibal strains since their respective abilities are even more enhanced than the respective dinos
like a colossus is bigger than any hyper dino
so maybe the cannibal thing combined with the strain amplifies the effects even more
vocal flare
i feel like because of all those strainsa and other stuff this game won't be a dinosaur survival, it will be somekind of super evolved hell
tribal trench
It wasn't planned to be a dinosaur survival lol
That's just what it is now, since they're working on it
vocal flare
wait what
tribal trench
...it's not a dinosaur survival... there will be humans, strains etc from the beginning..
timber bison
the basis is still dinosaurs
you don't seem to anderstand that strain will be extremly difficult to get
and humans will be harder to play than dinosaurs
pallid junco
- we can't say that for sure yet and 2. hate to mini mod, but ya'll should move this either theislediscussion or offtopic
timber bison
it depend, do you trust Punch ? i do
pseudo pond
If V3 just wont load/times me out should I just keep trying or am I just screwed til the next patch? x.x
median hornet
greatest theory
median hornet
pseudo pond
Idek how I got in here but oh well xD
umbral tusk
This is new
The red.
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I’ve been eating rotten meat.
buoyant heart
I think its just a new texture they haven't implemented anything like that yet
past trench
buoyant heart
yeah its for the affinity system
spice coyote
What's the importance of nested peeps not having trackers?
Randomized "hey go fuck up this dinosaur" missions?
Generally knowing where everything is?
Automated turrets for mowing down chipped dinosaurs?
spice coyote
But how so?
sweet zephyr
apexes
you don't get tracked by human
there will be some bored dude out there with a gun
and if having to be nested stops him from ending your 7+ hours of work
most people will take that.
as smaller carnivores, you prey on them.
a good shot and you are done, but without a tracker they can't see you coming.
spice coyote
Driving a few miles to put down a pair of rexes before they can even nest 
nimble cape
I wonder what you'll get once all the way down at the bottom of affinity
spice coyote
Tbh if you've got a sizeable human population all with the same goals in mind and they're not infighting, dinosaurs have a bad time. Sharing ammo, resources, keeping facilities running without the power going out
I imagine there's stuff worth fighting over though
quasi hedge
Where all my Para fam at
umbral tusk
Wrong chat. @quasi hedge
quasi hedge
Right chat
versed rain
what if the reason that allosaurus players are toxic is because AE engineered them that way 
sharp frigate
^Not a legit theory.
versed rain
@static dock joke alert reeeeeeeeeeee
static dock
On the origin of cannibals
Is it possible that the cannibals were failed experiments at an attempt of making esper-esque humans with the strains?
cinder hollow
Maybe the dinosaurs have a certain quality/DNA about them that gives them an ability to mutate, and when the scientists tried this certain DNA on humans the cannibals were born
regal sundial
The mention of driving out and gunning down trexes before they can breed makes me think of the JP book
When they're trying to catch the trex
wicked belfry
I can imagine that exact scene playing out, too. Shooting a couple of tranqs into a rex and it just.....runs off only to pass out like an hour later.
tulip salmon
I’ve not read all the current theories and what’s confirmed and what’s not, so just putting this one out there since I thought about it the other day. The Dome in V3 I keep hearing people reference that it’ll be a container for flying dinosaurs? But I don’t think that’s what it’s for. I wonder if it’s a holding pen for merc-faction tamed dinosaurs? (Humans are supposed to beable to tame both player and AI dinosaurs in the future). The weird camera angle that’s not been fixed yet when you walk in makes me think of the kind of view a rider might have (on galli it’s right over their back and on para it’s right behind the crest, I have not tested others yet but from screenshots they’re mostly similar).
It would make sense for why there’s a big lake and no food (even for herbs) spawning inside the dome if it was the human’s responsibility to keep their tames fed. And why you can walk into the dome in it’s current state but it has no doors - they could be trying to make a system where only certain sized dinosaurs can get in/out without needing a door. So that tames are safe inside from apex but small things like dryo or juveniles can pass safely in and out.
echo gazelle
@tulip salmon There's a Youtuber named IGP, if you watch one of his recent Isle videos featuring Dondi, he asks what the dome is and Dondi says it's one of the first concepts they have for an Aviary. It is not complete which is why we can walk inside of it, and we really shouldn't be able to. Just want to point that out. I also think Dondi or someone says "Now you know where the Quetz will be held" which is why you hear the "It's for fly dinos".
tulip salmon
Awe. Well too bad. I liked my theory
slow delta
If a quetz is mentioned then could that be atrium c hmmmmmmm
bright solar
Hrm, I feel way behind. I thought humans and dinosaurs could decide to work together - If only the intelligent strains - Rather than a pet/owner relationship.
Well, when humans and other things are put in on a permanent basis, that is.
fresh rivet
It won't be pet/owner relationship. More like a master and slave thing.
bright solar
Ouch. I'd hope there were options for cooperation as well, but I guess we'll just have to see what happens. Things seem to always be shifting and changing, which is cool, keeps us guessing.
bright solar
That emoji thing always makes me giggle :x And I just think the ability for cooperation would be a nice option, can't think of any dino games that have something like that.. Though I don't play a ton of games, so maybe I missed something for all I know.
bright solar
Hrm, it says isle theories o.O Now I'm confused XD
Not an abnormal state for me, admittedly, but still ;P
tribal trench
Isle theories. For lore. You're talking about something that I don't see being lore related? 
I think you just got the wrong chat :x
bright solar
Yeah, I think so too, apologies >.>
bright solar
Nah, s'fine. XD
wicked belfry
So, are there any theories on AE controlling the weather around the islands? Cause if you ever notice when the weather changes, it changes in an odd way. It's not like a gradual fade in like other games, it looks like the clouds actually form and dissipate in a matter of seconds. On top of that, if you try to watch the "North Star" at night to see where it goes, once it reaches a certain height the sky gets blotted out by clouds. And when they disappear, the "North Star" is gone.
pallid junco
it has been stated the neuro spino will fuck with the weather systems, so I'd say it's a p good bet
wicked belfry
I thought it strange that the clouds actually formed instead of things just getting darker and like a cloud texture being put in the skybox. And the fact that it always happens at a specific time each night to obscure the north star just adds to that.
fossil lily
Tbh I’m waiting for some more lore stuff to show up so I can get back to theorizing
crisp ermine
Same
slow delta
yeah same
fresh rivet
Probably they’ll update the lore with the next big patch on dev branch. Along with possibly sucho and new mechanics. Since we didn’t get anything the 23rd, it might’ve been postponed anything lore or new stuff related
tribal trench
I believe Don told anth that smth wasn't ready for the 23rd so they postponed it
slow delta
sounds like baseless rumors
fresh rivet
It’s not truly baseless. The July update like Dondi said was updated now in August. So it’s evident that they had to postpone anything they had expected to release by the 23rd or somewhere around July
And weirdo, yea I heard the same. So next week or somewhere around it we might get new updates + lore
tribal trench
wouldn't hype it up though
grave dove
icy onyx
what if the devs added in the PILLAR MEN for no reason but for gud meme?
coral sequoia
@icy onyx
icy onyx
k
supple dome
So hear me out on this, the hyper creatures are extinction level creatures yes?
Constantly eating till nothing is left and at that point their body starts to eat itself in atrophy.
The M strain (magna) is the "perfected" version of that strain.
So what about the other two?
Neuro and tisso?
Do they have a perfected "better working" strain equivalent ???
If not why just the Hyper strain
And also, in the loading screen info boxes it states the matriarch would guard her "children"
What the hell are her children.....
snow solar
if it helps any, there was a comparison made between the bear from the movie "annihilation" and the type-N creatures; they're not perfect... it's thought provoking for sure
supple dome
Indeed I remember, that's why I'm no longer questioning what they are but why
Why would these things be made
For what purpose
The only ones that I truly want to know what they are is the matriarch "children"
proper steppe
I have yet to be given evidence that there is a magna strain or that said magna strain is supposed to be a perfected hyper in the lore
tribal trench
@supple dome neuro and tisso don't have "perfected" versions (even though there's no evidence for magna being perfected hypo) cause they probably came after hypos
supple dome
We don't know that as of yet but it's always a possibility
And there's plenty of evidence to support the magna theory
tribal trench
It's most likely the case, and if not so, then tisso and neuro don't have that big of weaknesses for AE to bother with improving them
Give me it.
And give it to herp too, we're waiting
proper steppe
I've only seen one example, and it could easily have been referring to the gameplay of magna, not the lore of it
crisp ermine
I always thought that the matriarch was a species, not a individual animal
tribal trench
Said example was someone making a theory about magna being a perfected hypo and a Dev said something along those lines iirc.
supple dome
Go watch dons streams and listen to what tidbits he leaks out, and also the interviews (qna) they've done for youtubers.
And his support of the main theory in this very channel.
proper steppe
I don't know where to find them
tribal trench
You've yet to give me any stream clips or screenshots for Don saying that
tribal trench
crisp ermine
There are multiple echidnas and reapers so i think there are multiple matriarchs
tribal trench
We only know there are multiple reapers so far I believe.
Also, talking about matriarch, what if it's magna human 
No evidence to support it
proper steppe
I don't even think Magna is a strain
tribal trench
But interesting thought
proper steppe
it doesn't follow the same naming conventions as a strain
It isn't hyperendocrine [insert species]
it's actually mixed into the species name
crisp ermine
In the streams of july 2017 it said that there were 5 echidnas but their location is unkown
tribal trench
Yes, but I'm just saying, magna human could be matriarch
proper steppe
Magnatyrannus solus
Magnaraptor vulgus (or whatever magnaraptor's species name is)
crisp ermine
All i know about matriarch is that it is a fully adaptable organism active in tartarus and that it has children
tribal trench
I'm starting to think magnas are made by putting a dinosaur in a simulation on fast forward, and after X time they clone the result, ending in a different species (which also works with the different names)
proper steppe
Would make sense, seeing as the magnas don't get changed in the same way
supple dome
@proper steppe it may not be a strain but on the select screen it does have the name "type M" like the others have corrisponding letters to their type.
And you weirdo stop being lazy and search it up yourself. Look at the Isle youtubers or go on twitch clips I don't give shot which.
And yeah the matriarch could be anything, all we've got is that it's female has children and is not a dinosaur but an animal no less
tribal trench
Youtre the one claiming that dondi said so on stream, so you stop being lazy and search it up mate
crisp ermine
And its fully adaptable active in tartarus
proper steppe
You're the one making the claim, you have to provide proof
tribal trench
^
crisp ermine
Could canibals then be magna tribals?
tribal trench
"oh so I'm making this claim but YOU have to search for the proof"
If anything, neuro tribals
Seeing as they have many similarities to echidna and other neuro strains
crisp ermine
Yeah
proper steppe
Cannibals could be magna, magna doesn't have a set way it changes the base critter
tribal trench
It's a safer bet to go with neuro
Since they're similar to echidna, which is also neuro human
proper steppe
I don't think they're neuro
tribal trench
@ UrbanMoony#2011 im still waiting on the clips and screenshots btw
proper steppe
Aren't neuros supposed to be physically weaker and use their spoogly magic powers to protect themselves?
tribal trench
I don't think physically weaker offensively wise
You can see neuro spino, bigger than normal spino and looks like it does more damage too
Cannibals could be quite frail, for all we know
crisp ermine
It is possible but i think its magna
tribal trench
Why?
crisp ermine
Your theory of the fast forward
tribal trench
They're so similar to the neuro human, as well (I've repeated this too many times I'll stop)
tribal trench
Quite similar, no?
tribal trench
Neither have eyes, too, but I do see where magna comes from
proper steppe
The only similarities I see is pale skin and no eyes
crisp ermine
I never noticed that neither have eyes
proper steppe
and some people would argue with you over the eye thing, that dot in echidna's head could be an eye
tribal trench
Cannibals being magna humans/tribals makes sense too, especially with the earlier magna thing I said
So bassically.. Cannibals are magna tribals or humans, and magnas are possibly created by simulating an environment on fast forward and then cloning the resulting creature
proper steppe
I really think cannibals are something else that we haven't seen yet
tribal trench
Hmhm
crisp ermine
Is always possible
proper steppe
What if specific neuros have different abilities? Like how neuro spino affects the weather, that could be its neuro ability thing
If that's the case, Echidna's ability could be commanding an army of cannibals
tribal trench
Yeah, would be a bummer seeing all neuros having same ability
crisp ermine
Yes and some have the ability of mimicing sounds and even speaking
crisp ermine
proper steppe
I remember something like that
tribal trench
We have no confirmation though
crisp ermine
No but its a theory
umbral tusk
a game theory
proper steppe
Different species wont be able to understand each other, I remember talk of neuros breaching that rule
tribal trench
Hmm right
crisp ermine
Do any creatures have seismic abilitys?
pallid junco
if we were to go with the magna being a perfected hypo (not necessarily saying i support it as there's no evidence i can think of off the top of my head), maybe, rather than AE not bothering to make perfected versions of them, they didnt have time to. bc the way i see it, if it were the way it actually went, is that shit was going fine until the echidna was being made. it somehow escapes and infects multiple people and a few dinosaurs along the way, causing people to devolve into cannibals and everything going to shit. ive no doubt there's quite a few things to shoot this down as i have not much evidence to support this, other than how the buildings are all worn down as if they were left there quite suddenly, as well as the context of a hypothetical theory that also does not have any immediate evidence to support it. just my thoughts on the idea is all.
fresh rivet
Whenever the "what cannibals are" topic comes up, I always suggest a mix of all strains. Why? Because they're basically echidna's children. So she made them somehow, she turned them or paved the way for them to become. Why not purely neuro? Because they might only have the heightened senses but none of the psionic abilities. The part of hypo would come out to their size and strength compared to a normal human being (them crouching are taller than a 1.82 m/6' human). And tisso there hasn't been much knowledge until now, I always like to put the fact that cannibals are more animalistic, nimble in movement, able to crawl walls apparently and what not. Of course my theory can be highly flawed because we have no proof. But I don't think they're a "pure strain" like Echidna, Colossus or Reaper.
And them being magna... Idk, it doesn't seem right to me, but it could be. Since the cannibals might be a form of evolution from homo sapiens, just like magna is from their respective species, they're not what they came from anymore.
fossil lily
What if Echidna is like a queen ant
Originally there were 2 Echidnas
One male and one female
They mate once and the male dies off soon after
But Echidna is capable of forever producing new offspring from just mating once
Hence all of the cannibals
Hence why she is called the mother of cannibals
coral sequoia
or asexual reproduction, sorta like cloning
wicked belfry
Be mindful of false positives a la Herobrine =P
crisp ermine
Originally there were 5
fossil lily
What
nocturne cosmos
Secret
pale geyser
its his response to dondi
sharp frigate
Not hard to read the channel descriptions.
crisp ermine
Its hard to make theories if a lot of information may or may not be outdated
median hornet
You could just build on what you have that isn't outdated, and wait for more information to come out to build even further.
pallid junco
Or make two different theories, one with potentially outdated stuff and one without
pastel path
Dondi confirmed it’s not some sort of generic “oh the dinosaurs broke out story”
silver current
i saw some interesting theory which was: they inserted human minds in dinos.
We being the human minds in the dinos.
pastel path
Translations said something similar to that
Lemme pull it up
//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
The unpredictable nature of a profile within the mind of a dinosaur was resolved with an affinity complex. We could not make them do what we wanted, so we convinced them that it was what they wanted.
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1014161303613706240
<::Connection closed::>
There we go
Wait a minute
Now that I read this again. This may have been a hint to the affinity system dondi was taking about
tribal trench
It is, but don said affinity aint lore related.
pastel path
Ah
slow delta
What if the gateway is the way of passing a human conciousness into a dinosaur?
umbral tusk
That’s what I’ve been thinking. ^
fossil lily
If we can figure out where I 1 and I 2 is
We can find gateway
But also the console stream is outdated
So it being in between I-1 and I-2 could not be relevant anymore.
I hope we can get a big lore thing like the console stream to happen soon
nocturne cosmos
wrong chat?
edgy moss
@nocturne cosmos Yep XD
somber oyster
Submit a Topic to Fandom
somber oyster
Sorry wrong chat
fossil lily
Anyone manage to find any of the secrets that were said to be in this update
umbral tusk
secrets?
buoyant heart
OwO secrets?
fresh rivet
Update?
warped canopy
OWO
buoyant heart
o3o
warped canopy
UWU
buoyant heart
u3u
buoyant heart
Yes let us talk about lore
formal elm
So, I’ve recently joined and don’t know anything about the lores and secrets. Could someone fill me up with all the stuff? 😄 please?
tribal trench
/no response/
snow solar
welcome! here's something that should help you out: https://taterfilore.wixsite.com/theisleslore
formal elm
thanks!
quartz hearth
😄
quartz hearth
Along with the fact that my state reptile doesn't need a male, it is totally possible in a natural state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail
little sand
Neurotenic Rex and Tissoplastic Rex found inside new Isle loading screen
little sand
Thanks
fresh rivet
tisso*
proper steppe
Magnatyrannus isn't a subspecies and the species name is Solus @quartz hearth
static crater
Magnatyrannus is its own genus
tribal trench
or magna just rolls off the tounge better than magnus
copper kestrel
I dunno about you but "Magnus Tyranus" is the most chad dinosaur name i've ever heard
tribal trench
Magnustyrannus Solus doesn't roll off the tounge as good as magnatyrannus Solus
regal sundial
Magnum Dongrannus
pallid junco
yall sure that magna isn't like, the uhhh.... what's called... it's where the root word is modified to fit the word it's combining with to make a compound? yknow what i mean?
so it could be magnus, rather than magna? yknow?
unless im rart and i just read that whole bit wrong or smt
proper steppe
But Solus in latin does not translate to sun? Solus translates to only @quartz hearth
umbral tusk
Magnatyrannus Solus means the only great tyrant
It’s the king and it reigns alone. That’s literally what the name means lmao
However, something interesting about the Hyperendocrin strain is that the name Endocrine is from glands that are in your body that emit hormones. Endocrine comes from a Greek word that means Arouse in activity. Endocrine makes hormones, essentially from the pituitary gland. The pituitary gland makes the hormones and one of the hormones it makes actually controls the appetite of the creature. Hyper is self explanatory. The name Hyperendocrine means “unusually high/energetic hormones”
If ya wanna get into the gritty with the science and stuff, I got a video on it that explains it in better detail.
ember finch
A hyper rex having an endocrine disorder/acceleration would explain everything physical about it. I did a video about that like, a year or two ago, but that channel is dead and gone. I'm glad I'm not the only one that suspected that.
Even acromegaly, a form of gigantism, stems from endocrine disorders so. Who knows.
slow delta
The 3 strains also tend to be connected to abnormalities related to a specific tissue
Hypers with the muscle tissues, neuros with the nerves and tissos with the skin
quartz hearth
Ahahahhahahahahaa... I got it confused again!
Well, it seemed ok for the moment. I should have done my research better.
shut remnant
I think hypers are called hyperendocrines because they have hyperendocrines....
half sinew
vital tree
I think it’s called tissoplastic because their tisso is made of plastic.
gloomy wave
vital tree
Honestly the names make sense when you think about them.
fresh rivet
the names were kinda obvious to begin with
knotty lichen
tribal trench
We don't know if it's a strain
shy basin
Pretty sure we know they are not strains
tribal trench
^
slow delta
Are they called strains because the augmentations put a large strain on the dinos body
buoyant heart
supple dome
It isn't actually confirmed if it's a strain or not yet. In the selection screen it's called "type M" like the other strains already there are called "type H" or "type N" it may be nothing but it is at least a little curious as to why they are held under the same title.
slow delta
We dont know if types and strains are synonymous or if strains fall under types in a certain classification system
gloomy wave
Or if its more convenient to write " Type-M " instead of something else that would confuse the theorist bunch
supple dome
like i said " it may be nothing but it is at least a little curious as to why they are held under the same title.
"
slow delta
Yeah i think theres a certain connection
proper steppe
I think magnas are a type that isn't a strain
tribal trench
^
median hornet
they are hybrids?
slow delta
Could be
kindred stirrup
If a strain is an augmented animal then a magna is a strain
tribal trench
Who said a strain is an augmented animal
kindred stirrup
That’s what a strain is
tribal trench
Strains have pros and cons.
kindred stirrup
Like a strain of a virus
People augmented it to bypass current medicine so it’ll kill a bunch of people
tribal trench
If it has pros AND cons it's not an augmentation
kindred stirrup
They change it then
tribal trench
kindred stirrup
Didn’t realize augment meant to make greater specificly
proper steppe
Who said magna was an augmented animal?
placid harness
It's pretty clear that it is.
Augmented in this context might not mean having cybernetics or super powers but the Magnatyrannus has been improved by having things added to it.
median hornet
augmented animal? more like an animal mixed with another animal to create a totally different animal am i right
why we call it a hybrid
it isn't the same animal
median hornet
yes but not augmented
Just not the same
its like saying a polar bear is an augmented dog
placid harness
It has been made greater by adding things to it.
ebon basalt
Wasn't it explicitly said that magna (tyrannus specifically) was free of tampering?
median hornet
or like saying a liger is an augmented Lion or tiger
placid harness
I'd find that hard to believe.
median hornet
ligers exist
tribal trench
Magnatyrannus solus
That's a species name, which implies it's not a normal trex, but another species
placid harness
Not implies. It pretty much is another genus.
tribal trench
On other things it's "neurotenic rex, hyperendocrine Rex, tisso plastic Rex"
However here it's a name of a specied
Which implies it's not a strain
placid harness
And saying a Liger is a better version of a Lion or Tiger is objectively false. Natural hybrids don't usually have good health records.
median hornet
And is a magnatyrannus "usually" a modified rex? or is it a rex that isnt a rex anymore
placid harness
modified
placid harness
Oh, so you think it's naturally occurring.
median hornet
in your opinion
placid harness
Something being modified isn't an opinion.
median hornet
uh
placid harness
You're being really vague on what you mean. If it's not naturally occurring, and it's not modified, then what is it?