isle-lore-theories

[turbid escarp]

Cool fanart by the way @earnest glade

[earnest glade]

But that's just speculative as I've said. Thanks dude

[proper steppe]

How many of these really big critters are there?

Matriarch, Colossus, Island Walker

Anything else?

[turbid escarp]

Is the matriarch big though?

[tribal trench]

Island walker eats colossus.

[nocturne cosmos]

Island walker big man on the block

[tribal trench]

Ark titanosaur^

[edgy pike]

@earnest glade Wasn't your one based on the old skeleton?

[earnest glade]

Yup

The original one

[proper steppe]

I'm pretty sure the Matriarch is big

[earnest glade]

I'm planning on doing an updated revision. Maybe a design sheet too of what I think it might be

[turbid escarp]

But is there any confirmation?

[nocturne cosmos]

Cool

[earnest glade]

I was thinking Matriarch

[dusk axle]

maybe matriarch is not huge but instead powerfull

[earnest glade]

No proper confirmation no, but Dondi did say something about putting it on a certain someone's desk

[grizzled dune]

IIRC,old matriarch idea is that it would start as small as compy and could grow as big as a puerta.

[earnest glade]

Idk who

But

[grizzled dune]

Might wanna ask bhal,i'm sure he remembers it.

[turbid escarp]

What if the matriarch was a combination between neuro hypo and tisso

[tribal trench]

No.

[earnest glade]

Good shout Extra,

[tribal trench]

doubt it jonathan.

[turbid escarp]

I know

But imagine some kind of beast like that

[proper steppe]

I remember that too, extra

Matriarch was to start as the smallest thing and grow to be bigger than/as big as a pue

[tribal trench]

Doesn't matriach grab parts from other creatures and ptu them on itself?

[dusk axle]

i mean if its a combo it could be cool, ill try to make my concept of matriarch before the next week, then im off to study

but we know too lil about matriarch, i dont think theres a conclusive desing or characteristic of it

[turbid escarp]

What if the reason of the death of whatever animal that skeleton I suppose to represent was killed by another one of its species for a territorial dispute or maybe for food

[tribal trench]

doubt it

it'd have some broken bones probably

either A. died of old age

or B. starved

probably one of these.

or it got shot up

[turbid escarp]

It could have blended out

[tribal trench]

the bones are relatively intact.

[turbid escarp]

Bleeded*

Bleeding *

[dusk axle]

maybe a virus or biological agent

could be how they wipe population on an island before starting all over again

[sinful wraith]

if Dondi said it could eat Colossus

don,t you think it's a carnivore

[tribal trench]

or omnivore

[slow delta]

it could

not necessarily does

[sinful wraith]

so Pue could eat Utahraptor?

[slow delta]

but yeah probably is a carnivore

well theoretically i guess?

[sinful wraith]

just trying to bring it from a different angle to show how weird it is to say that

[hard pecan]

looking closely at the skeleton, the way the ribcage ends abruptly and the what appear to be shoulder blades as opposed to dinosaurine girdles, give me the impression that its owner may have been mammalian or stem-mammal if they are far more ancient than we give it credit for, as these are both mammalian traits. Also looking at the way the neural spines point on the smaller vertebra lets one determine what's front and whats back, and it seems the longer segment of vertebra is neck instead of back or tail. This neck also not showing traits of typical dinosaur cervical vertebrae, especially that of sauropods further driving the idea that its not a dinosaur or even purely reptilian.

[slow delta]

yeye thats fine lol

[sinful wraith]

so I don,t think if it was an herbivore Dondi would have said that

[hard pecan]

the skeleton actually has a lot of striking similarities to human anatomy

[turbid escarp]

Really?

It looks like it has a tail though

[hard pecan]

neural spines point backward, look at where they point

not the tall ones, the little ones

[turbid escarp]

I was thinking it could be a spine like the one of a dimetrodon

[tribal trench]

Right..

[hard pecan]

still lacks the shoulder girdle that reptiles and mammal-like reptiles have

imma make a chart

[turbid escarp]

I said the spines not the whole body

[tribal trench]

I meant the spines

sigh

[edgy pike]

Keep in mind that this is not a real animal, it's probably got all kinds of different organism's DNA in it...

[tribal trench]

I'm guessing its this

By tap

But fully grown, or enhanced in size

Because that doesn't look like anything else we've seen so far.

[snow solar]

i don't believe that's TI fan art 😮 she has some other personal projects as well

[dusk axle]

thats just fanart imo

[wicked parrot]

its a nuero dryo

[tribal trench]

It is @snow solar

it was found in one of the loading screen things or in game files iirc.

[turbid escarp]

Now that I think so I don’t remember any sign of legs in the skeleton

[tribal trench]

ask hellshade

[dusk axle]

looks more like a human injected with dino DNA

[tribal trench]

uhm

no

how tf does that look like a human

[turbid escarp]

Lol

[tribal trench]

also that's not really how DNA works, you don't just..

inject something and it mutates

[dusk axle]

the stance man, that pose doenst seem natural for a dinosaur

[regal sundial]

Looks like a xenomorph

[tribal trench]

... you'rre saying...

something doesn't seem natural for a GENETICALLY MODIFIED DINOSAUR.

[dusk axle]

by injected i meant more mutation like

[tribal trench]

utahs,gallis, etc ALL BREAK THEIR WRISTS AND ARMS.

in this game.

[turbid escarp]

I don’t make that stance either though

[edgy pike]

It's also got six limbs, just saying

[tribal trench]

^

[dusk axle]

uh 5 fingers and a thumb? just saying

[tribal trench]

which ties directly to the next thing;

georges fanart

and dondi liked it

also had 4 arms, 2 legs iirc.

[hard pecan]

i could be really overthinking this and they just actually warped a human skeleton asset and slapped it own

[sinful wraith]

maybe the ribs are more aesthetic

[nocturne cosmos]

It kinda looks like a human

But more like a dino

[sinful wraith]

and not deeply corresponding to anything

[nocturne cosmos]

It looks like it took human hands mixed in some dino and slapped them on

[turbid escarp]

Maybe something whale like?

[dusk axle]

starting to feel a aot vibe though-...

[snow solar]

that's possible too yeah, but i doubt it's there for kicks

[tribal trench]

also, @hard pecan you can add 2 other arms to that and it looks REALLLY similar to the thing I posted by tap

[hard pecan]

unfortunately theres no additional blades or girdles to suggest more limbs

[dusk axle]

so you admiting that the fanarty thinggy has some human characteristics

[tribal trench]

ok sure but I'm doubting they just injected dna into a human

[turbid escarp]

Do whales have a skeleton that looks like that?

[hard pecan]

nnnnah

[nocturne cosmos]

No

[subtle shell]

Maybe it's a Hyperendocrin colossus...

[hard pecan]

whale skeletons actually look kinda reptilian

[nocturne cosmos]

No

[sinful wraith]

what it would be a whale

[dusk axle]

nha

[turbid escarp]

Ow well

[sinful wraith]

it's an island walker

first thing needed is to be able to walk

x)

[hard pecan]

it might really just be a placeholder that I severely over-analyzed

[sinful wraith]

yup

[dusk axle]

what bothers me is the sail, its not fully erect, its like curved, unless thats from decompo but it just seems off somehow

[turbid escarp]

Like the spine of a dimetrodon?

[glacial rover]

It reminds me of the neuro spino

[analog halo]

^

[tribal trench]

@subtle shell You do realize a colossus is a hypo human right?

[dusk axle]

eitherway it could had been cartilage or something and then solidified somehow

[earnest glade]

Dek you read my mind

[tribal trench]

Doesn't remind me of neuro spino.

[snow solar]

worth a shot though, unless someone can find it on the asset marketplace i'd wager you're onto something

[tribal trench]

It has 4 arms, no blue glow, 4 fingers 1 thumb,

[glacial rover]

It kinda resembles the neuro spino sail I mean

[dusk axle]

actually no, i think, the "spines" are too thick

[glacial rover]

Idk I havent really looked into it

[hard pecan]

spines are too thin to support musculature, so its definitely a sail

[earnest glade]

Possibly aids swimming

[sinful wraith]

sometimes I wonder if devs really thought about that

[earnest glade]

I mean they want there creatures to be anatomically correct otherwise they won't look right

[sinful wraith]

like realistically it needs to be a sail, but what prevented the devs to do spines instead?

[dusk axle]

or maybe a comunication sail, i mean like how birds move their wings or somehting

[earnest glade]

It's waaay too big

[dusk axle]

still its curved and thin

[hard pecan]

i think an island walker or whatever this is would be able to see its companion quite well even without a sail

that thing probably taller than the whole island in life

[earnest glade]

And as Dek said, there would have to be an insane amount of muscle latched onto it

[dusk axle]

so like a dorsal fin of some sorts?

[earnest glade]

The only thing I can't quite understand is why the sail is curved

Yeah a dorsal fin would make sense

[dusk axle]

doenst really move but its there as a rudder

[earnest glade]

A dorsal fin usually keeps balance, so maybe it's for that

[hard pecan]

its GOJIRA

[earnest glade]

^^^

[dusk axle]

could be the decomposition aspect, maybe its made of a softer material so when it died, the sail curved like cartilage and then solidify, i mean its a theory

[hard pecan]

you know what would be very interesting? if the beast was based on the Ningen

[dusk axle]

Ningen?

[hard pecan]

giant oceanic humanoids in japanese folklore

[dusk axle]

sounds cool

[turbid escarp]

Is the ningen I don’t like that creature

[dusk axle]

like some sort of civilisation or ancient titan tribe?

[hard pecan]

http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Ningen

[turbid escarp]

Every time I see the skeleton the first thing that comes into my mind is Nessie in steroids

[glacial rover]

People actually believe those exist?

[tribal trench]

yep

sadly

[turbid escarp]

I mean some people think reptilians are a thing so...

[turbid escarp]

Am I the only one that sees this when they look at the skeleton?

[tribal trench]

Yes.

[cinder atlas]

Keep it to theories

[fresh rivet]

We are in theories

[hazy adder]

Appears to me like a beached massive sea creature during a flood of some sorts. The decomposition looks like a portion of the bones were either washed away or buried with large moving dirt masses hiding the other remains. Or something ripped its head off

[tribal trench]

i'm still guessing its the thing from tap's artwork o,o

[hard pecan]

it would be interesting if the islands were built around the island walkers

[echo gazelle]

still speculating the giant ribs?

[hard pecan]

i suppose so

even if that is just a placeholder model there is definietly something big dead right there

[echo gazelle]

definitely, I mentioned earlier but I also wonder if it being near the cannibal statues and falls have any relation

[hard pecan]

the cannibal statues strike me as odd

because we're lead to believe the cannibals have been manufactured by AE or the replicator or whatever

but these statues look ancient

unless of course they are ancient and in the game's timeline 2018 is a long long time ago

[placid harness]

Oh, so the skeleton has giant neural spines now?

[fossil lily]

Any Progress on the new Morse?

[placid harness]

Those giant ribs remind me of the fabled "Hyper Epics" from spore, whom were only present as pieces of gargantuan skeletons.

[tribal trench]

spore x the isle crossover wen?

[placid harness]

lol

seriously though, what the hell could those be from?

Some freak accident?
Some freak success?
The "Primordial"?

[tribal trench]

Island walkers.

[placid harness]

Could be. The spines are somewhat fishlike in appearance.

Assuming it belongs to the Island walkers, maybe it suggests they are so big and heavy that they could walk across the sea floor.

[glacial rover]

Has anyone noticed that the 3 dots next to the quit button on the main menu is displaying morse code?

[tribal trench]

believe so.

[glacial rover]

Ok

Is there a translation anywhere?

[slow delta]

yes...

pinned document

[glacial rover]

Ok I’ll look for it

[slow delta]

i just have the final messages no point uploading the morse itself

[placid harness]

This might not be correct, but I think the landscape around the giant ribs of v3 resemble a crater.

[hazy adder]

@fossil lily Meaty has decoded a lot of the new Morse Code. Said it was really interesting. Cant wait to see what it says.

Luckily there isnt a lot of background noise on the new Radio Tower so its a little easier to record and de-code.

[fossil lily]

Woo

Can't wait for us to add it to the document

[earnest glade]

It's already been decoded. I did it a few hours ago if you want to take a look 😃

[fossil lily]

Mind posting it in here?

[hazy adder]

Do tell

[earnest glade]

Well this is everything translated from morse: GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR

That's what I got from a 12 minute clip of the new tower on V3

[fossil lily]

Sweet

Ill add it to our google doc

[hazy adder]

Nice work!

[fossil lily]

Ill give you credit

I do wonder if it is more then 12 minutes of morse code

[sharp frigate]

you absolute unit george

i love you

[hazy adder]

So the dock yard may have a message soon

[earnest glade]

Seems that way 👀

[fossil lily]

I am curious if it goes on

For more then 12 minutes

[earnest glade]

I love you too Aliens ❤

[hazy adder]

Meaty said it goes on for a while. Might be longer than 12 mins, but I think its just on a loop from what you have there.

[fossil lily]

Well Ill probably still add Meaty's when he tells us his

[sharp frigate]

What's being replicated

[earnest glade]

Yeye. However there's a large chunk in there that is different from the rest

[tribal trench]

cannibal? 😏

[earnest glade]

I'm working on something ATM. Still a working theory but I'll let you know when I'm done

[hazy adder]

Dinos

[tribal trench]

"check fifteenth cycle" cannibals

[smoky cosmos]

Dont bother adding mine because george did my work for me

god bless george

[fossil lily]

o o f

Did he basically get the same as you?

[smoky cosmos]

also the only sentence thats useful to me is the docks one

[fossil lily]

So it repeats?

[hazy adder]

Yea the Docks is a key here

[smoky cosmos]

everything else is garbage

[tribal trench]

nah

"replication in progress"

[earnest glade]

He only wants the boaty bois

[tribal trench]

means something's being made

[smoky cosmos]

garbage hati

[tribal trench]

something... meaty

[smoky cosmos]

stuff we already knew imo

[tribal trench]

i'll take my leave

[fossil lily]

Well everything is on that Google Doc

[placid harness]

inb4 george is being paid by dondi to slowly leak Isle information

[fossil lily]

So if you feel like making a video on it Meaty feel free! ^_^

[earnest glade]

As Hell shade says. Don't get lost in the lore sauce

[tribal trench]

yea but hellshade also says like everything is lore sauce

you need the lore sauce so make the lore dinner

[earnest glade]

True true haha

SHIT Don there onto us

[tribal trench]

hm?

[earnest glade]

Replying to Toa

[tribal trench]

oh

how much money

[placid harness]

1000 profiles

[tribal trench]

that's alotta damage

[gloomy wave]

No shitposting

[earnest glade]

ATM I'm thinking it's not just text that we're getting from the Morse. It's something else as well. Don't know what yet, but I'm trying to figure it out

[hazy adder]

Like what? Because I get a similar feeling too. Its hard to explain.

[pearl palm]

15th cycle as in moon phases? time of day?

cycle of what 🤔

[tribal trench]

cannibals

[pearl palm]

what evidence supports that

[turbid escarp]

Is there any chance that the north star was producing some kind of morse code?

[foggy kindle]

so regarding all of the star talk from a few days ago, has anyone managed to travel in the same direction of the star on the v3 map, and found anything unusual along the way?

I've tried doing such, and the location of the star is on the Northeastern side of the map... in the same direction of that newly-added radio tower that's broadcasting morse code messages.

And a little bit beyond that is a giant, immensely steep mountain range that's impossible to climb without risking certain death... So many potential pathways are blocked off, there aren't even any nearby shorelines you can walk around in order to reach the other side of it. I've tried going around one part of the area to reach it, (further south near a cluster of redwoods, and it looks like it was leading me down some sort of intentional path,) but I made a mistake and died from fall damage in the process.

I'm wondering if that mountain range is blocking or hiding anything important. The lack of spawn points on that side of the map is rather telling, too. Going to give it a second try again.

[analog halo]

SInce I´m forced to look at the loading screen longer now, I noticed a word in the AE Symbol between all the DNA

[sharp frigate]

yee

there are a lot of words

[analog halo]

makes me wonder if other things are hidden in there

[sharp frigate]

there's joke

dream, perfect

real

[analog halo]

was just as my eyes ran over it that i noticed ^^

[sharp frigate]

fake

[sweet zephyr]

I have them somewhere.

[analog halo]

so I´m way late to the party again? ^^

gawddamnit

[sweet zephyr]

WHY NO REAL APOLLO FAKE SEEK PERFECT ACTION ONELDANS IMPOSSIBLE DREAM NOW SICK JOKE DYING FOREVER

[analog halo]

ONELDANS ???^^

[sweet zephyr]

yep.

never managed to fully decode what that damn word was

[analog halo]

oky, good that it´s known already. I really need to catch up at some point.

[sudden prawn]

There’s also an “are”

It could also be area I suppose

[sweet zephyr]

no.

L is not part of AGCT

so the word has to finish there.

Areal makes no sense

[hard pecan]

A Real

[tiny carbon]

Or just real

[fossil lily]

If someone wants to take the time to look through that AE symbol in the Movies file in The Isle file on ur computer

If they can get all the words hidden Ill add it to the doc

[sweet zephyr]

scroll up

[shrewd bridge]

so i just found that ^^

[icy onyx]

Its known.

[fresh rivet]

it's old

[shrewd bridge]

Ooh nvm

[slow delta]

the letters in the dna have been seen multiple times, its 1 overlay that keeps being reused

[tribal trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431791228057812994/470495589004607488/image.jpg this the V3 star? looks kinda wierd.

wrong thing

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/978855728058251928/297AA08640F33D8EC61C4DA858A09E6D622E1260/ this

now all the stars just randomly dissapeared too so...

[icy onyx]

Its not a star, because it is seen through clouds so..

[tribal trench]

i know

just i call it that

since we don't know what it is.

[nocturne cosmos]

you talking about the north star?

or how the clouds cover them

[placid harness]

These two spinosaurids do not look the same.

Is the one of the left a different skin, or the new sucho?

[rare pine]

Thats an old skin

[placid harness]

Ah.

[plain gale]

you mean when they had good skins?

[rare pine]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-aEKz4tK3a4/maxresdefault.jpg @placid harness

[tribal trench]

😩

[jaunty pecan]

Miss that skin so much

[earnest glade]

Ok bois, theory time again. So as we all know we got another batch of morse which was decoded not too long ago. Me and a few others noticed that there is a pattern to this morse code, as expected as morse code usually has a repeating pattern. Obviously as morse code repeats, there are lines of dialogue that repeat. But they all have a set number of times in which they do so. In the 12 minute clip I recorded and decoded, I counted how many times each phrase repeats.
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS- 5 times
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES- 5 times
YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED- 4 times
AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD- 4 times
IF YOU CAN HEAR THIS PHASE 1 HAS STARTED- 4 times
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR- 4 times
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE- 5 times

I think maybe there is some kind of number code hidden inside this morse. I could be crazy, but I hope I'm not haha

Maybe if we get a longer clip of the entire string (if there is an end and a beginning) we can decipher it

[placid harness]

Check fifteenth cycle.

[buoyant heart]

Hmmmm

[placid harness]

Does that mean like 15th day? In game, or even IRL?

Or is cycle referring to something completely different, like a generation of something?

[earnest glade]

I think that's just little tid bits of info

It doesn't really tell us anything

I think the morse code has a double meaning

So each repeated line is repeated a certain number of times, which can obvs be counted

I think maybe we can stack all those numbers up

[sharp frigate]

I still have no idea what the cycles are

[tribal trench]

I believe they're generations of sorts.

[earnest glade]

Me either haha. Probably just generations of experiements

[placid harness]

I'm convinced its either referring to day / night or generations of something.

[tribal trench]

I doubt a cycle is 1 day

would be very little

[placid harness]

Check fifteenth cycle.

Guess I have to live and die 15 times before ascending.

[nimble cape]

don't think it would make sense at all because of how hard it would be to construct something like this but if there was an artificial day/night cycle and such and that big ass light in the sky is connected to it then it would be pretty trippy

[earnest glade]

I was actually thinking maybe that's how long you have to wait in order to be revived

'Death is just the beggining' and all that

[placid harness]

Wasn't there something on one of the twitters that said something along the lines of "how many times can things live and die over again before something goes wrong"?

[sharp frigate]

That was on Twitter

[placid harness]

"Everything is not as it seems. You are controlled. You are conditioned.

Repeating the same patterns is what they want you to do."

"In the flashpoint, all the ripples converge. The purpose of chaos will show itself. You will know why your death is necessary."

[nimble cape]

Might be connected to 1000 life contract

die 1000 times and things get fucky

I would test that on an official survival server but i doubt there is actually anything ingame for it

and that sounds like it would take forever

[placid harness]

I don't want to get carried away but I'd like to think after going through so many living cycles we'd have to go somewhere specific or maybe attempt to log in.

Guess we have to just die as many times as possible.

[lean jacinth]

so the morse code at the tittle screen has been got right?

[tiny carbon]

So 15th cycle we're unsure of. What cycles? A cycle is something that repeats, and has no definite beginning or end. Check 15th cycle. So, what in the game repeats, has different processes occurring at different times, but ultimately starts over again? Well, we have the Morse code, but that would be hard to track what cycle we're on because of the server time continuing without the players. So I think it's something outside of normal gameplay. Something that doesn't occur in servers as a dinosaur. I think cycles of the Morse, death, and other things are out. So that leaves us with the menus. What repeats in the menus? The blinking lights, the security clips, etc...

Someone might want to look into all of those. I know I will

[icy onyx]

Honestly, It sounds like a complete waste of time

but I'm curious what happens if you where to die a 1000 times in one sitting

Probably just a wild goose chase tho

[dusk axle]

still noobe can hear anything at the dock yet, but surprisingly there was a lot of dead AI and other dinosaurs there

[smoky cosmos]

@tiny carbon I'll give you a clue to the cycles thing

It starts with a M

and ends with oon

and guess what the 15th cycle of the Moon is?

[tiny carbon]

Ok, so we need a full moon then. How does the moon tie into all of this?

[sweet zephyr]

out of the game, nothing.

took a look at when the person logged on, June 2nd

doesn't watch with any moon phase.

[tiny carbon]

I don't see how it ties in in-game either since every server's moon would be different

Unless there's something you need to do in-game when a full moon happens, which as far as I can remember it's always full

[raven stag]

Can I tell yall my theory on Cannibal's origin

[icy onyx]

I want to hear it

Have at it

[raven stag]

Well, my theory is based on the tweet about "Forced Evolution".... The theory is that Tribals are being forcefully evolved by Echidna... I believe this because Cannibals were once tribals and Echidna creates them (So she is forcefully evolving the tribals)

[buoyant heart]

O_O

[icy onyx]

The question is why

[raven stag]

Exactly

Why does she need cannibals?

[icy onyx]

Hmmm

Tricky

[raven stag]

Maybe Echidna is trying to guard The Island from Humans (Mercs) by creating cannibals?

[icy onyx]

I don’t think so

[raven stag]

Just an idea

[icy onyx]

True

Maybe she’s ... idk

[smoky cosmos]

So the morse code says, give me a sec

GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR

[icy onyx]

Oh hey meaty

[smoky cosmos]

CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE

AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD.

[icy onyx]

...?

[smoky cosmos]

So

[raven stag]

It sounds like something broke out of its containment and they have to evacuate

[smoky cosmos]

My thoughts are you either go back to the radio tower or the docks on a full moon

[raven stag]

But what does that have to do with the moon?

[smoky cosmos]

to get a different message

[raven stag]

Oh

That is a good idea

[smoky cosmos]

so

on the 15th cycle the gateway might be open

and you'll get a different message

or something else will happen

idk

[raven stag]

The next full moon is on July 27

[smoky cosmos]

the only thing that I can think of that has cycles in the game thats always the same is the moon

jesus Daws

I'm talking about the full moon in game

[raven stag]

Oh LOL

[icy onyx]

Maybe the cannibals got out?

[smoky cosmos]

the game has moon cycles

every night is a different cycle

[raven stag]

Hmpphh, I didn't know that

[icy onyx]

What’s the 15th cycle?...

In game

[smoky cosmos]

a Full Moon

Well

In RL the 15th cycle is a full moon

I'd assume it would correspond to the full moon in game

[raven stag]

The morse said something about the dockyard, what does that have to do with the radio tower tho?

[smoky cosmos]

it says "AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD"

[icy onyx]

Maybe tribels turn to cannibals

[smoky cosmos]

in the morse from the radio tower

[raven stag]

So the radio tower is gonna get a signal from the dockyard

[smoky cosmos]

maybe?

[icy onyx]

In full moon

[smoky cosmos]

I mean we dont know yet

until someone tries it

[icy onyx]

True bu

[smoky cosmos]

I tried it earlier, but got lazy

[icy onyx]

lol

[raven stag]

What is the gateway?

[icy onyx]

Or the com out of that cave

In that art

[hazy adder]

I think the radio tower is trying to contact dockyard. Think we will hear signals from all branches as they try to establish contact with one another in phase 1. Just a theory

[icy onyx]

Maybe

[raven stag]

Possibly

[icy onyx]

But I don’t think so

[hazy adder]

Think about the protocol of a major evacuation or a protocol in an emergency like scenario. You would want to establish contact with all branches and relay important information.

[icy onyx]

That IS true

What about those big ribs in the woods

Maybe that’s what got out? But I don’t think so

It’s to big to keep in control

[hazy adder]

Think it could be the source of the whole situation. A super like creature found on an island. This would have very valuable DNA properties. Something scientists would like to test out I assume. However extracting workable DNA from bones is something im not sure is possible, but maybe it wasnt bones when the research began.

Things then got very much out of control.

[icy onyx]

The colossus

Maybe

But it’s huge

[hazy adder]

Im not sure if the Colossus came first or whatever that thing is did. Whatever it is its massive, and alien in modern nature. Nothing that big should be able to survive... Looks like it didnt.

[icy onyx]

But they finally found out how to bring the dinosaurs back

So maybe they have the technology to make it live

Whatever it was

[hazy adder]

Now that is a whole other story. How they specified different species from one remains is unlikely. However engineering super like creatures (or at least trying to) could be derived from this massive creature.

[icy onyx]

Interesting....

[hazy adder]

The pendulum of this story could swing in so many different ways, but its at least one theory. This giant skeleton is either the source, or its the result.

[icy onyx]

This isn’t something We can figure out

[hazy adder]

not with what we have, no.

[icy onyx]

I don’t think

[hazy adder]

But God its fun to speculate

[icy onyx]

Unless you’re a smart ass

lol

Or dev

Which I’m NOT

[hazy adder]

When its all said and done, you have to bravo the idea of a community putting bits a pieces together like a puzzle. It sparks creativity and speculation. The information is dished out very slowly and almost masterfully to make the puzzle seem more complex. And for that I appreciate it.

[icy onyx]

Ye

True

[hazy adder]

A story always has a beginning and an end. Its not just a bunch of mumbo jumbo on the fly. This team has put together quite the mystery. I think we get led down a lot of false paths that just make the underlying story more blurry, but thats the best part about it i suppose.

[icy onyx]

It’s like fnaf all over again

🤣

[hazy adder]

Ha, I suppose your right in a way.

[icy onyx]

LOL

welp that was a TON of fun

See ya later

[hazy adder]

We await our next clue. Until then o7

[turbid escarp]

Could the gateway be metaphorical?

[icy onyx]

No its a facility.

That much is true.

"User Inquiry: Gateway
Facility holding that transports EIP to Tartarus."

[turbid escarp]

Is there any evidence for it being a facility?

Ow

It could just be some kind of network holding archives then not urgently a physical thing

[icy onyx]

I mean if it transfers it to Tartarus it has to be really important.

Considering Tartarus is where we are held at the moment I believe...

[turbid escarp]

I still wonder why they made the big North Star so different from the others

I still think it could be gateway

[slow delta]

Does the game have actual moon phases so we can know when its a full moon?

Either way waiting for 15 nights is going to take a lot of time

[slow delta]

So if we are in tartarus

And gateway leads to tartarus

Us taking the gateway should get us out of it

[tribal trench]

@icy onyx its not a colossus. A. It doesn't grow that big. B. It has huge neural spines, like if it had a sail. C. Dondi said it it could Eat a colossus

BTW has anyone tried flying up to the new star on v3?

[earnest glade]

Nope

Not that I'm aware of

[turbid escarp]

I tried

And it’s impossible to get to the star

[jaunty sundial]

Does it recede away from you the closer you get to it?

[glad briar]

what the hell were the types of experiments on the isle?

[tribal trench]

We.

Dont.

Know.

[glad briar]

any... predictions?

[tribal trench]

Uh

Hormone stuff mb

[glad briar]

it's pretty obvious that there are dinos that aren't naturally, like the hypos and neuros

militarization of dinos is dumb, so i can't imagine that's the reason why they would do such experiments. Perhaps... it's a similar situation to jw. to cause more of an attraction, because the Isle seems awfully similar to a type of park

i'd also say that humans are still in a relatively close tech level to us modern day, maybe a bit into the future due to genetic engineering, but not too far since they relied on wind turbines,

[tribal trench]

No.

There's 0 evidence of it being a park

And currently, the game is in the past.

[glad briar]

the past? compared to real life time?

... alternate human timeline...?

[sinful wraith]

I think we're on the past of when the actual game will happen

that's what I think from transmissions

"This is not the world as it is. This is the world as it was. The untouched land will break apart with monoliths of the past until time catches up with itself."

"Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012
Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.
Released July 23rd, 2018."

[glad briar]

so... you're experiencing the event's of the past from the point of view of the gamer.

so it could technically be in our future, but the point of view receives it as the past.

[sinful wraith]

^

having the tweet saying it was released the July 23rd of 2018 makes me thing that we're playing in the same era than ours

[sweet zephyr]

well yeah.

[sinful wraith]

but I think the "official" story line we'll be in the near future

[sweet zephyr]

it is the present.

this is happening in our age.

[sinful wraith]

phase 1 just have started

[glad briar]

so def alternate timeline

[sinful wraith]

maybe that's what the july 23rd was related to

the beginning of phase 1

but I think we heard of phase 1 before that

so I'm probably wrong

[glad briar]

i just saw something referring to a hyper-endocrine infection?

[turbid escarp]

Where?

[glad briar]

fan-art with an infected lizard

[icy onyx]

That isn't canon.

[glad briar]

i suppose thats what people mean by "hypo?"

[icy onyx]

Fan-Art is Fan made...

Also Hypo is a meme but too commonly used.

[glad briar]

yes i know that but i don't know jack shit about anything since i'm new here

considering that there are mercs on the island... what are they trying to do exactly?

maybe they're looking for something

[icy onyx]

I mean, we dont know that there are any on the island.

[glad briar]

well i'm only considering the faction of mercs anyways

[spice coyote]

People just say Hypo instead of Hyper

it's completely wrong though

[turbid escarp]

Hypo its the abbreviation

[icy onyx]

No its not.

Hyper is.

Hypo is a meme.

Literally.

[turbid escarp]

Before if you mess with the save file and wrote "HypoRex" you would spawn as the hyperendocrin rex

[icy onyx]

It's abbreviation is Type-H or Hyper

[spice coyote]

Hypo is literally the opposite of Hyper

[icy onyx]

^^

[turbid escarp]

Yeah but you had to write Hypo to spawn as one im not saying the word is the same

[icy onyx]

What you had to do isn't correct because you shouldn't even be spawning in as them.

[turbid escarp]

But it worked in the time it was possible so..

[feral pond]

Think you guys have derailed from theories, might want to try #401464048610312195

[sharp frigate]

Aye

[tiny carbon]

So, someone said that their theory was that the isle was just one big simulation and not a physical place. I could kinda see this based on a few things. First off, Gateway. I know they use it as a name (the key to Gateway...), but gateway also has the definition: "a device used to connect two different networks, especially a connection to the Internet." We know that the "facility" gateway is used, as mentioned above, to transport EIP's to Tartarus. Well, if Tartarus were a server or other network, and then gateway could be the named that for being the literal gateway needed to send information to it. How this links all the genetic stuff, I haven't the slightest idea. Just expanding on that previously mentioned theory

[icy onyx]

Though I'm pretty sure Tarturas are the Islands.

Because of "User Inquiry: Colossus
I do not have files on this, but I can see it is active within Tartarus."

[placid harness]

Would be funny if the Isle is literally like the Matrix but everyone is a dinosaur.

[fossil lily]

Great Video Meaty! 😃

[smoky cosmos]

thanks 😄

[earnest glade]

Was nice to see it all summed up in one big ol' package 👌

[placid harness]

I really feel like that skeleton has something to do with the Matriarch.

[tribal trench]

I don't tbh

[placid harness]

Dondi did say he wanted it to be playable, right?

[tribal trench]

No.

[sinful wraith]

no

[tribal trench]

that's gonna be unplayable

[sinful wraith]

he said exactly the contrary

[tribal trench]

it's gonna be the biggest unplayable, iirc.

[sinful wraith]

^

[placid harness]

Dondi said that skeleton was the small one.

[sharp frigate]

Nani

[placid harness]

I'm going off Meaty's latest vid. Go watch. It makes reference to IGPs vid where he played with Dondi and Dondi was being mysterious about it.

Interestingly enough, apparently starvation was not the reason that massive creature died.

[tribal trench]

infection or venom maybe

or old age

or heart failure

or TOTAL ORGAN FAILURE.

[placid harness]

Well, considering he called it "the small one"...

[tribal trench]

or it stubbed its toe

[placid harness]

If it was something as blunt as a medical reason it probably wouldn't have been given cryptic emphasis.

[smoky cosmos]

nah

maybe I didnt add enough before that part

he was talking about the magna

I just kind of threw it in there

the magna is the small one

[tribal trench]

makes more sense

[placid harness]

Well thats one big Magna.

Hypothetically speaking.

[smoky cosmos]

no the skeleton isnt a magna

lmao

[tribal trench]

hypothetically speaking

[placid harness]

I specifically said Magna. Not the skeleton.

That skeleton gives me a headache.

[tribal trench]

then... what are you talking about?

[smoky cosmos]

I mean its the only magna we've seen

[tribal trench]

ohhhhhhhh

oh oh ok

[smoky cosmos]

so its magna sized

[placid harness]

https://youtu.be/YQBIyxS1D3A?t=875
This was the clip I was originally referring to

[tribal trench]

well magna is smaller/less beefy than hypo so

[smoky cosmos]

hes saying it was smaller than the hypos

[tribal trench]

i'm so confused

[placid harness]

^

[smoky cosmos]

ughh

Dondi said magna is the small one and he wants to make them playable somehow

well hes calling magna the small one in relation to the hypos

[tribal trench]

not about your vid meaty ^^ i'm just confused about who everyone is talking about

"he" doesn't really help

[smoky cosmos]

well now I'm confused

😛

[tribal trench]

when there's giant ribs and strains

[sinful wraith]

your confusion confuses me

[tribal trench]

and dondi

[placid harness]

Lets forget these past 5 minutes happened.

Agreed?

[smoky cosmos]

sure

[tribal trench]

sure

[placid harness]

That skeleton still remains an enigma.

[smoky cosmos]

btw by he I meant Dondi 😛

[opaque ledge]

Did you though?

[smoky cosmos]

nope

I lied

[tribal trench]

[opaque ledge]

I knew it

[fresh rivet]

Guys, I'm going to go farfetched. Remember the 15th cycle thing you talked about it being the moon's cycle. And it matches full moon. And the closest full moon is tomorrow. And tomorrow there's gonna be a lunar eclipse/red moon. I seriously have no idea what I'm talking about

About the bones it's supposed to be one of the Isle walkers thing. Probably gonna be a part of the lore and one day there might be concept art. But not playable.
The "smaller one" refers to the Magnatyrannus Dondi spawned in, being it smaller than the type-H Rex, but apparently as powerful, if not more. Would it also mean the smaller one as the smallest of the Magnas if there could be more? One day strains will be playable when they are polished and finished. Still no news of the Tissoplastic strain.

[icy onyx]

What if instead of the moon cycles it means check the archives from the 15th cycle.
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1013982570541969408

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled into an archive they handed down through the generations. As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most basic and violent ideologies remained.

Twitter

[sinful wraith]

I love the moon cycle idea

hope Meaty will dig more into it

even if I know if he finds something he won't tell us

I love theories and all, but the lore is mostly about decoding messages and I know nothing about morse and I don,t even know how to record stuff so I gave up on being a lore master

[icy onyx]

It's most likely a genetic cycle**

at least in the context of that tweet

both refer to the process by which a new generation is created

[tiny carbon]

I think that tweet could be maybe talking about collective memories. "Their stories" being their lifetimes throughout the 15 cycles (or generations/times the genes were changed), an archive they've handed down (those experiences going to the next and the next and the next...) until eventually they started going crazy and becoming violent, and unable to exactly remember those experiences because they are unable to handle advanced cognitive funtions (thoughts, memory, etc...) until they just became violent beings with a collective memory they can't access

[icy onyx]

in this case, information is passed down though replicated generations

yeah, that just about sums up what I was going for :p

@tiny carbon well said

The whole moon cycle thing never really made sense to me

[slow delta]

We should look in the game folders for hidden files

[unique current]

Some of us already have😉

[tiny carbon]

I've tried manipulating just about everything in the files, added my own lines to the config files (a lot of different combinations), and had even tried messing with the certificate that tells your computer the game/program comes from a valid source and isn't a bug (which now I can't seem to get it to do anymore, but it never did anything as far as I could tell) and ultimately it never got me anywhere

Believe me, I've checked literally every file related to the isle (as far as I'm aware), and the closest to anything I've found there is my theory on different builds for different clearance levels. Other than that, everything else has turned up no leads or no solid results

[fossil lily]

[earnest glade]

We need a key to unlock them there gates. Bit we still gotta figure that bit out. I think this gateway is entry to a server. Maybe the full moon triggers a reset of the servers or something, leaving the gateway open for us to get into. However. We need an access code to do it I'd imagine. I think there is definitely a code hidden somewhere in all the stuff Dondis given us so far. It's just a case of where to use it, and when

As I've said before, I really do think there's something else hidden inside the Morse. Maybe it's parts of an access code or something idk. And maybe the full moon is when we can input that code. But as to where we actually login. I don't think it's that little button on the main menu screen. I think we have to go through something before that button becomes a viable option. I don't know what or how just yet. But I think me and few others are determined to find out

[fossil lily]

I think alot of us are determined to find out but alot of us don't have the skills to help get there sadly

[polar geode]

Well theres much about the star constellations and fuck so the moon cycle doesnt sound that wrong. Also magna is supposed to be the hypo slayer. Hes slower but more bulky with much mass and is supposed to stagger bleed on them. Magna rex is like 2/3 of a hypo rex in size.

Also @smoky cosmos nice to have the 13. y/old tribal dondi in you video😂

[edgy pike]

Red moon tonight, I don’t think Dondi will do anything special because of it but you never know

[proper steppe]

Why would the spine on the skeleton be curved like it is?

[placid harness]

Lots of pressure from something.

Or thats just how it grew.

[proper steppe]

But how would it be bent without breaking, then stay like that?

[snow solar]

if you wear, say, a chest binder or a girdle for long enough it can permanently deform your rib cage. not that i expect our bogey to have worn anything, but i think toa may be onto something with the pressure thing. perhaps it grew in a confined space?

[covert chasm]

i feel if people stopped theorizing about the curvature of a pile of bones we might've already gotten a piece of the lore figured out

[placid harness]

Yeah. Organic material typically does that if there is pressure of a force that they cannot break / that cannot break them.

Think of those watermelons that are grown in boxes and end up being cube shaped.

@covert chasm You say that as if people haven't been hard at work figuring lore out lol

[covert chasm]

[sinful wraith]

That was rude man

For no reason

[covert chasm]

if you think that was rude im afraid to ask what you consider nice

[edgy pike]

Not exactly rude but still unnecessary and unrelated to the conversation

And like Toa said, there are people working on theories, decoding signals etc

[sinful wraith]

even if in my opinion the ribs are like that more because of aesthetic rather than deep reasoning, I will take everything because we have only a few clues for now

[copper kestrel]

Question about the giant ribcage on V3

So the ribcage has the large neural spines coming off the top which is interesting, but I was thinking

Is that ribcage actually representative of what these possible "island walkers," looked like, or is it just a placeholder marketplace model?

[peak siren]

I wish everyone would stop talking about the skeleton. We can't figure out anything about the skeleton if we don't figure out the lore part first lmao

[snow solar]

people have been trying to figure out the lore part though. no harm in speculating about it while we wait for said lore to come out; not a lot's been given to us on the skeleton anyway so we're kinda left to our own theories in the meantime

although if there's something else you'd like to talk about no one's gonna stop you from bringing it up, i'm definitely interested 0:

[woven reef]

Guys on the Isle v3 did anyone hear anything strange in the huge forest by the beach?

im on the dev branch and in some really gorgeous forest near the spawn beach, there's like hissing and growling, is this lore related or simply just SFX? It sounds like a giant snake or something

it actually freaked me out it was so loud, like i dont think it was background noise, because it was so loud

[hazy adder]

Ive heard some really strange sounds in the redwoods area. Some sound like branches falling. One sounds like a large dino moaning in the distance, and some sound like strange bird sounds. I didnt really hear hissing, but some strange growling from time to time.

[woven reef]

yeah i heard exactly that! But the hissing was noticeably the loudest sound in there

i stopped in there and just listened and it got more frequent almost

i just wish i knew the map better so i could describe where i was

[hazy adder]

yea same. I still have a long way to go before I know where I'm going on that map. But the sounds near redwoods are pretty wicked at times

[woven reef]

for sure! Honestly, i just checked on that server to have a go with the new scent, allo etc but i went for a wonder, tabbed out for a sec and all i heard was hissing and some freaky other sounds (Which you described)

the admins in the server didnt believe me, nor did the players

it was one of them "you had to be there" moments

there was also a fairly loudish bang, but idk, the mystery surrounding the lore in this game just amp up everything i suppose, but i definitely heard hissing

[icy onyx]

on v3?

[woven reef]

yeah yeah!

On the Dev branch

[icy onyx]

interesting

you would think they would be trying to get players on to thenya

[woven reef]

wait is it V3 with the human structures everywhere?

and the big bright star?

[icy onyx]

i think

idk the maps that well

[woven reef]

yeah its definitely that map

thenyaw is the one with Party Pool and the swamp and stuff, i know that one fairly well

but yeah if anyone hits up dev branch today, check out the woods by the beach with the star overlooking it, the sounds in there are super interesting

to say the least

[tribal trench]

@woven reef the bang could've been a woodpecker.

[turbid escarp]

There are some big red circles in the menu could they be producing morse?

[icy onyx]

So this theory was suggested before but I still see people following the moon theory for the “Fifteenth cycle.” Which tbh doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. It’s still possible, but according to past tweets I think this theory makes more sense and I would like to add on some more reasoning behind this theory. So I believe the “Fifteenth Cycle” refers to the cannibals. As mentioned in a previous tweet https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1013982570541969408. In other tweets it gives more hints on how the Fifteenth Cycle refers to the Cannibals. This could be the reason why the morse code said “Gateway Status Check Error.” Now before people say that’s a bit of a stretch mind you this all came up around June 23rd. And what tweet did we get for June 23rd? https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1017235117528371200 In the picture a Cannibal is holding a broken off piece of machinery which may explain why there’s an error in the Gateway. It also says “Replicate” in the tweet while in the morse code it said something about “Replication in Process.” So I think it’s safe to assume this all happened at the same place. Which is why I think the moon theory compared to this theory doesn’t make that much sense. Since so far we don’t have any direct evidence of the moon being tied into or affected by the lore.

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

Search Query: AE System Directory Site I-04/AE-012

Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12.

Released July 23rd, 2018.

Replicate. https://t.co/IfNeR7PMJV

Likes

179

▶ Play video

Twitter

Is kinda long but basically just talking about how the Fifteenth Cycle most definitely must refer to the cannibals as someone mentioned above.

[sinful wraith]

Moon works with the look in the sky at the right time

[icy onyx]

But we don’t have hard evidence to back it up.

I’m not saying it’s totally wrong. It could still be useful as we don’t have a specific reason to drop it. But cannibals have been referred to as the Fifteenth Cycle before and there’s a lot of evidence to back it up.

We don’t have solid evidence that points to the moon being tied into the lore.

Plus others have also pointed to the huge star in the sky for that. We don’t exactly know what we’re looking for in the sky.

That was also a past tweet that doesn’t have any noticeable ties with the recent morse code we just got. The evidence I have given at least had something to do with the morse code.

[static crater]

"After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled into an archive they handed down through the generations. As their mental plateau deteriorated advanced cognitive functions, only the most basic and violent ideologies remained."

Why did people think the moon is involved?

[echo gazelle]

I think cause it's the only thing ingame that we know of that has 15 cycles, as far as I know

[slow delta]

What about

The sun

[static crater]

what

[echo gazelle]

The Moon changes shape, so they considered the moon has something to do with it

[icy onyx]

Yea, I don’t think many people remembered that tweet hence why there was the moon theory.

I don’t blame anyone for that, I didn’t even think of the tweet until someone posted the tweet above somewhere. Then it got me thinking of the June 23rd tweet which probably connects with the Gateway error.

[icy onyx]

Does anyone else see these words in the loading screen?
Perfect
Fake
Seeking
Forever

I saw a few others but forgot them already.

[ebon basalt]

yes, we've had them for a while

https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit theyre listed in this doc

along with other stuff

[icy onyx]

👌🏻

[raw olive]

I don't think the moon fits the theory, because if "After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled into an archive," well, that doesn't happen in a short time

The cycles could be tests being run

[tribal trench]

forced evolution

[raw olive]

And also, I may be late, but the "If you're hearing this, phase 1 has started," phase 1 starting was mentioned in a stream

[tribal trench]

short time, forced evolution.

like the Hypo Carno thing dondo posted.

[raw olive]

Oh yeah

[tribal trench]

"Forced evolution is a wonderful thing"

[raw olive]

Ye, didn't think of that

The phase 1 thing though

He said it in a stream a while ago

[tribal trench]

yep

I'm expecting to see a the isle trailer this month.

[raw olive]

Yeah

[tribal trench]

might have some hidden stuff in it

[raw olive]

That would be awesome

And it most definitely (probably) will

[tribal trench]

maybe hidden morse, hex, idk

[slow delta]

most definitely probably, we dont know

we expected something to happen on the 23rd due to the transmission

dont get your hopes up for future stuff, im sure they are stalling with the info because we havent gotten past this stuff atm

[fossil lily]

Well I mean the thing we got on the 23rd

Was the new Tower on V3 with the morse

That is good enough for me

[fossil lily]

I should really change the name of that doc from Loading Screens to Codes or some shit

[glad briar]

What are cannibals, and why do they even exist? They're like Scalie fans who... literally... tried to become scalies.

[icy onyx]

Cannibals are a Human Class. And the rest no idea.

Not a lot of info is known about them.

[tribal trench]

they exist because God said "hey I don't like humans"

[icy onyx]

I thought they were a strain of tribals

Or was that idea scrapped

We literally have no idea but i believe a very plausible theory is that they are a sub species of Tribals.

[glad briar]

well, there are very old ruins, so they must have been on the island for at least a few decades.

always gotta be a weird cthulu cult and modern insane scientific stuff that yah gotta decode via morse :v

[fresh rivet]

Maybe they’re tribals corrupted and “forced to “evolve”” by echidna

[past trench]

Can you guys look at the rex strains? It’s got something about 15th specimen or something

[fresh rivet]

Where?

[grizzled dune]

Here: https://i.imgur.com/uVOyi2O.jpg

Middle one,Tisso strain.

[umbral tusk]

Did we figure out what the Morse code was on the tower? Haven’t been on TI for awhile so lmao

[fresh rivet]

So would it mean we’d be getting a tisso reveal soonish?

@umbral tusk I believe they did, there must be something up in this chat

[umbral tusk]

Thank youuuu.

[tribal trench]

Wouldn't be so sure, just says number 15.

[umbral tusk]

It says the Hyper is a holotype which means The single specimen designated as the type of a species by the original author at the time the species name and description was published. The Neuro is a Prototype which means a first, typical or preliminary model of something, especially a machine, from which other forms are developed or copied. The Tissoplastic doesn’t have anything other than the gender - female.

Did we ever look more into this before?

[slow delta]

These are old concept arts and probably outdated at this point tbh

[umbral tusk]

True.

[glad briar]

What or who is Echidna?

[pure gull]

Mother of cannibals

[tribal trench]

Human neuro.

[tribal trench]

Possibly multiple of them, along with colossus and reaper.

[glad briar]

Oof, terrifying

I dunno what the colossus and reaper is Either.

[tribal trench]

Reaper is tisso human, colossus is hypo human

[glad briar]

Mind explaining what you mean by tisso and hypo?
I know hypo is usually used to describe a version of a different creature. However? I haven’t heard of tisso, nor do I understand why they are classed by such names.

Same goes for neuro

[pure gull]

Colossus

Reaper

[glad briar]

Those were HUMANS?!

[tribal trench]

They're strains. Hypo is hyperendocrine, tisso is (forgot full name) and neuro is neurotenic

were

[hardy yarrow]

tissoplatic i think

[last nebula]

tissoplastic

[hardy yarrow]

oh

oof

[tribal trench]

Tisso plastic that's the one

[hardy yarrow]

one letter off

[tribal trench]

.. There's also magna but we have no other info on that

[hardy yarrow]

weren't the cannibals human at one point too?

[tribal trench]

Possibly

[pure gull]

Supposedly

[glad briar]

Sounds like names of hormones or neurotransmitters. How they would affect any creature to such a state... is beyond me.

[tribal trench]

Endocrine has to do with hormones/translates to hormone or smth

And hyper, well, yeah

So hyperendocrine

[glad briar]

It must be some weird type of super hormone, best bet is forced Evolution.

[last nebula]

here's an example of a hyperendocrine dinosaur

[glad briar]

Introductions new hormones or messing with your pituitary gland to transform your body. Hormones are specifically meant for long term changes and body functions.

[tribal trench]

HMNT, which stands for some medical hormone stuff, is also the same order something dondi gave us "H-M-N-T, which stands for hypo, magna, neuro, tisso strains

[glad briar]

Maybe the cannibals were at one point Neanderthals.

Would fit the whole bringing back species thing.

[tribal trench]

Doesn't make much sense but ok

[glad briar]

Ah, endocrine refers to the entire hormonal system, not a specific hormone. That would make such drastic changes over many generations quite possible.

Maybe this was a predecessor experiment to genetic dna manipulation?

So instead of changing the genetic makeup of a subject, they would change the whole hormonal system entirely, and I assume other bodily systems as well.

I’m totally going off of high school level knowledge here, so there are bound to be some problems with how I presume bodily systems and their names.

[tribal trench]

I mean--I'm guessing hypos were the first strains, seeing as they have a perfected version, while the others don't, so maybe only hypos are made via hormone changes

[fresh rivet]

Endocrine system is the inner regulation system of an animal’s system. Mainly worked on by hormones.
Hyperendocrine refers to an overdevelopment and overgrowth of the metabolic and endocrine functions of the body. That’s why the type H strains are huge, have a fast hunger drain and are strong as hell. They are the Tanks

Tissoplastic could count for the plasticity of the tissue. As we know, without much info about, type T strains are nimble and some have the capacity of camouflage. Maybe have a complete different type of skin (including the so used spikes in fan art). They are the hunters/assassins

Neurotenic refers to the ones developing a neuronal network change, making them able to think in greater ways than other strains. This gives type N strains the ability to control electromagnetic fields (and maybe more new abilities) through these specialized and improved neural system. They are the mages

[tribal trench]

And magnas are the typical warrior dude barely anyone plays

[fresh rivet]

(I actually play those...)

[glacial rover]

Magnas are the cool ones

[tribal trench]

[glacial rover]

I remember how Dondi talked abou the magna raptor during a stream

He mentioned thermal tracking or something

[pallid junco]

I know I’m prolly gonna sound dumb af by asking this, but do we 100% know the colossus, Echidna, and Reaper were all humans at some point?

[half sinew]

Reaper yes

no proof on the other 2

[grizzled dune]

There is proof for Echidna: https://gyazo.com/b37dc623349589f9fb57abffca970de9 but not for collosus

[half sinew]

Safe to assume they're all human then

since there's proof of Echidna and Reaper

[pallid junco]

Hmmm, alrighty

I just wanted to make sure since the latest tweets regarding the cannibals sounded off

[dusk axle]

still, is the tisso strain still a thing or not?

[tribal trench]

yes

just being re-thought of

[cinder hound]

🤔

[icy onyx]

Wrong chat?

Deino doesn't so far play a role in the lore as we know..

No evidence to back it up soo...

[dusk axle]

indeed, actually nor does tisso or some other creatures

[icy onyx]

No strain counterparts.

[umbral tusk]

Hey guys so I was looking at the tower on V3 and the colors represent this: “The FAA and the FCC regulate the colors of towers if they pose a threat to aviation safety. If the tower poses no threat, there are no color requirements. The general practice seems to be tower camoflouge. If the tower poses a threat then red lights and the red and white paint are manditory. Also bright white lights can be used instead of the red light/paint scheme.”

Aviation safety? 👀

[sharp frigate]

[icy onyx]

V3 does have a Aviary though.

[umbral tusk]

Hinting to flyers?

[icy onyx]

Maybe...

[timber bison]

flyers are far from being in the game (technical issues) but there's still hope

[umbral tusk]

Who knows at this point; I just thought it was an interesting fact that the tower colors represent a threat.

[proper steppe]

Hinting at helicopters in the area?

[umbral tusk]

Ooo yeah maybe

[copper kestrel]

Hopefully it was a conscious design choice and not just an extremely coincidental marketplace model.

Very interesting

[past trench]

Also with the flyers there’s alphie which I think is a type H quetz so yeah

[icy onyx]

I thought alphie was to do with pc?

[past trench]

Pc?

[tribal trench]

Primal carnage

[past trench]

Oohhh

[wind jewel]

What if the giant skeleton belongs to the colossus

[umbral tusk]

Nah, it doesn’t have its anatomy.

Meatylock also went over that theory in his video.

[sinful wraith]

and when they were first leaked Dondi said it wasn't Colossus, but something that could eat it

I'm curious where the lore is going knowing it grows with the game

everything that is said here could even been taken as suggestions for future lore

[umbral tusk]

Was anyone able to translate that Morse from the tower?

[past trench]

Yes check the meatylock vid it explains what it says

[icy onyx]

Seems like deciphering* the tower colors is a bit much

you said it yourself, we already know there is an aviary on the map and fliers that could pose aviation threats

so why read into something so pointless

[pearl palm]

Has anyone tried going to the north star?

[jagged gate]

What if the giant Skeleton is a Spino Genetic Strain experiment gone bad to worse?

I mean Dondi said it's playable right?

So I'm just suspicious if it's a strain yet Dondi doesn't make things obvious

[past trench]

If that thing is playable then god help us. Also how what would do that to an animal

[buoyant heart]

[tribal trench]

Dondi said its the biggest unplayable iirc.

[echo gazelle]

@pearl palm Don't think so

[tribal trench]

Yes, I believe someone had

Has

[turbid escarp]

Iirc he said magna was playable not the skeleton

[tribal trench]

He's searching for a way to make magna playable

[fresh rivet]

The skeletons are just part of the lore. They’re a huge unknown creature that could devour the colossus.

[vital tree]

“Island walkers” right?

[fresh rivet]

Yup

[umbral tusk]

I thought it was the other way around lmao

That the Colossus could eat the skeletons or “island walkers?”

[icy onyx]

Colossus Makes Pue its bitch, Island Walkers make Colossus it's bitch.

[umbral tusk]

Oh, sorry I was wrong lmfao

[coral bronze]

If they can walk between islands then why did they not find the mainland?

[pearl palm]

What do we know about trying to log in to the terminal

[vital tree]

I’m guessing the islands are in an area of shallow sea but they have to go through deep ocean to get to the mainland.

[pearl palm]

I'm wondering if this has to do with logging in to the terminal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236826645950889985/473604269228949504/unknown.png

I've tried different combinations with the bottom 3 history buffer lines but nothing changes when pressing login

[tribal trench]

I don't think you're supposed to change files..

[icy onyx]

^^

[pearl palm]

I thought it was hinted at in the past that it was the ONLY way to get into the terminal?

[tribal trench]

I believe the devs said specifically to not change files to be able to log in.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the way to go

[pearl palm]

I can't remember. But there's no way to make the console pop up on the main screen is there?

The only other way I can think of is if you were to find something in game or be able to open the in game console some how

[icy onyx]

I still wonder if there is anything behind the main menu.

[pearl palm]

I'm currently investigating the north star

[covert chasm]

maybe you should start with it's fist

[pearl palm]

One theory I had was that we are in a giant electronic (Like hunger games dome) bubble or dome that surrounds the island. This would explain why Neuro can control the weather. We know it can release an emp and affect electronics hence why it would be able to control the weather system of the giant dome we reside in. It would also make sense why the sun and moon don't actually set and rise in the east and west And why the north star doesnt move with the other stars, it just appears and disappears. This is how Apollo is able to make the tribals view them as gods because they can literally control their world.

[fresh rivet]

Well, if they were on an Island I doubt they can leave and would praise other more "advanced" humans

[pearl palm]

I believe the island is real, but I don't believe alot of the events that happen on said island happen naturally

And the supposed gateway is our way out of here

And if Apollo is able to transfer conciousness

Brainwashing doesn't seem too difficult for them

[tribal trench]

😐

[pearl palm]

They've told us that we are doing what they want without knowing it in a sense

Which means tribals could be given the same kind of treatment of

"Do this cause it's beneficial for you"

An example of this is the mouse in a maze experiment. We as scientists want the mouse to reach the cheese and figure out how and if it can. The mouse just wants to eat to survive and not be hungry. Therefore we make the mouse do what we want to record research on behavior, and the mouse is just being a mouse

We make it do what it thinks it wants to do, so we get what we want out of it

[fresh rivet]

Yea, but it all can work in an isolated environment of their choosing. Like an Island. And keep them isolated there. And monitoring for them not to escape somehow could be possible

[pearl palm]

Thats what Im saying ^

[fresh rivet]

but why a giant electronic dome?

[pearl palm]

I just said why ;-;

Because the entire island's environment is off

The sun and moon dont rise and set in east and west

The north star appears and disappears and does not move with the stars

It would explain why Neuro strains can control the weather because they would be able to mess with the electronic weather system that the dome has

I followed the north star yesterday and went to the beach. We stood there on the beach looking out at the ocean. There was nothing there

The north star stays in the sky for 10 minutes

It's impossible to tell which angle is the correct angle to approach it or if your supposed to go the opposite direction or if the path to gateway is up in the mountains which are unclimbable.

That is the general direction of where I've seen the north star

When the moon is nearly fully risen is when the star appears

When the moon is in the middle of setting is when the star dissappears

But according to longitude and lattitude, the moon and sun are not setting in east and west. The moon is rising in the south and setting in the north. The sun is rising in the south east and setting in the north west

Which means the north star is actually the east star which (doesn't make sense) would explain why it's not accurate hence the electronic dome

[tiny carbon]

There's a compass in the top right corner of the map though. The latitude and longitude is based off old the old position system which just takes the actors world position (relative to the exact center of the level, not the island itself) so relating that coordinate system to latitude and longitude of the earth would give you significantly inaccurate results

[pearl palm]

The compass is based off the moon and sun rising and setting

[tiny carbon]

The latitude and longitude is based off of Unreal Engine's position system, not potential real-world latitude and longitude

Which is why it's off

[pearl palm]

Then why make it confusing and make the sun and moon different from lat and long

[tiny carbon]

Latitude and longitude are just terms that the person who made that map assigned to the coordinate system. If you try to use that system as latitude and longitude you'll get very confused very fast. The safest bet based off of Unreal engine from my experience is to assume that the sun is rising and setting in the east and west as it does in the real world. That's really the only way to predict a North East south and west accurately without using numbers given by the engine

Because I doubt that they took the coordinate system's directions into consideration when making the sun rise and set

[pearl palm]

That or it was intentional

The north star isn't north

[tiny carbon]

I doubt if that was intentional. It would take a lot of work and a lot of time and effort just to try and get those all to line up

And true the north star isn't perfect north

That might be worth looking into

[pearl palm]

That's my point in all this

[tiny carbon]

But I would forget latitude and longitude

[pearl palm]

If they wanted everything to be accurate they should of based everything off of lat and long

And like i said earlier I went to the ocean

and lined myself up with the north star

Nothing was there

[tiny carbon]

That s impossible to do based on unreal engine. If they wanted to do that accurately they would have to move everything very far away from the origin (0,0,0) of the level, including the island and all the players. Which would give everything stupid large numbers to try and place instead of simpler, smaller numbers

[pearl palm]

You can just change the position of the moon and sun

[tribal trench]

😐

[tiny carbon]

Yeah they could change which direction the sun and moon set, but for now, pretend like the latitude and longitude don't exist. Use only the sun for directions and you'll get much more accurate results. Forget latitude and longitude on the island for now

[tribal trench]

^

[pearl palm]

Lat and long are what I rely on to get to diff areas of the map

[tribal trench]

[tiny carbon]

Until an official map or gps location of the map exist, lat and long don't exist

No, you're basing it off of the coordinate system

Which measures unreal units away from the origin (0,0,0)

The fact that the coordinates switch to negatives beyond a certain point on the map proves this

[pearl palm]

Your saying there is no way to access coordinates?

[tiny carbon]

Both directions

No

I'm saying latitude and longitude don't exist on this island

If I was at my computer I could show you what I mean but I'm on mobile and not near my computer

[fresh rivet]

The latitud and longitud system are based on a center of the map. It's a point of view reference. You could turn it upside down, and the locations would stay the same, but with different coordinates.

If you turn the coordinates system in a 45º angle, to match the true north, the island wouldn't change, neither the movement of the sun or anything else

[pearl palm]

It doesnt explain why the north star isnt north

[tiny carbon]

This is true

But

It's probably not as elaborate of a theory as you imagined.

[pearl palm]

I still think we are in an electronic dome

It would explain why neuro is able to control the weather

[tiny carbon]

Hell we could be

[icy onyx]

I think it isn't a Star.

You can see it through the Clouds, And I've never seen a star through clouds.

[tiny carbon]

Could be unintentional, but clearly it has some importance or else it wouldn't be the only thing to do it

[fresh rivet]

The current theory is that the "north star" isn't even a star

[tiny carbon]

What do you think it is sprinkles? Quir0?

[icy onyx]

I think it could be a Satellite or something along the lines of that.

That is falling in to orbit as Hati said I believe.