#isle-lore-theories
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don't think the caduceus has a globe on it
and here it isays b443 are specimens
so is b443 a facility for all father or a rex specimen?
wait lemme just
its probably a rex specimen if you go with the new loading screens
but then that makes the pce connection stronger
yeah pretty sure B-443 is a rex
but like
isn't the PCE rex the magna rex or something?
ALLFATHER = magnatyrannus
PCE rex aint magna rex.
^
surely hypers (throne breaker) must have been developped first
officially confirmed, too
throne breaker is thought to be the hypo rex
but then how tf is a hyper rex a phoenix asset
So are Magnas the only refined version of strains we are gonna see? Or is there just some legit god-like Neurotenic that can control an entire species at will?
we all know this simi
hyper rex is nicknamed the throne breaker
but so was the pce spino lol
i feel like the neuro and tisso strains are already refined
I thought by saying hyper(s) you thought all hypos were throne breaker
H-rex was only referred to as Thronebreaker in like one old facebook post I think
yeah
hmm
realistically speaking
making a steroid monster (hyperendocrin) would be easier than making the tisso or neuro
so chronologically the hyper strain was developped early and then needed refining (magna)
but the more recent neuro and tisso might not need
hell we havent seen anything on tissos, even tho reapers are around
I guess the pure nature of Hyperendocrin strain just warranted its refinement.
yeah
Big giant things that tank and eat
Man, the purpose for these strains must be so fucked
The whole thing about Hypos is the were made to go in and and destroy the ecosystem so it could be reset.
Is that confirmed?
Thats the thing though
Nothing is Confirmed buddy.
K becouse i always doubted that
Magna is basically Hypo mk2 and they don't starve
The fact that from generation to generation, the effort to make the strain live longer makes me think it wasn't that they were going to just use these things once
Probably over and over
Controlling them to do whatever
And I doubt someone just wants to clone a bunch of conventional weapon resistant dinosaurs just to "wipe out an ecosystem"
You'd be shocked what you can do with cloning
Yeah.
The final objective is to create the perfect organism
Yes.
Okay, so lets say you got Magnas and Hypos for tactical reasons.
What the hell are Neuros for?
Definitely not magic tricks.
Support
N Spino can alter weather, so I suggested ecological editing
dont neuros have bioelectrical abilities/emp etc?
I dont think that the dinos are ment for military
Maybe Neuros are basically anti merc machines
and less mystical
besides if mercs have access to hyper killing weapons, what the point of their military use
I think the mercs are hired security
yeah but if guns can be made to kill em then surely whole armies could do the same
Well, I mean, not everyone is going to just have their pocket-hypo-killer.
yeah not in game
World wise.
i dont see how a hyper rex can survive bombings or drones or whatever
It will most likely be heavily injured.
Maybe a very expensive icon of terror
I am very concerned about the Hypo Giga and its jaw pain... something about that feels wrong
^
Why?
They obviously dont give a fuck about the creatures feelings or comfort
They are functional items of sorts
There is no way that hypo giga can survive for long with that jaw
Well, not like Hypos are going to survive long anyways.
As long as they control the creatures through whatever mystic voodoo genie whohocking that AE has going on in those labs they could care less about its comfort.
Because the Giga is a normal dinosaur...?
Because the Strain is a mutated version.
How are you confused about that lol

Thats also something we're foggy on. We don't know how exactly the strains work.
It enhanced the dinosaur in many ways also, Who the fuck knows what AE does to strains.
wait wtf
A strain could be a bacteria, a serum, who knows
i mistyped
It's not something we're foggy on
In the same way Hypo Spinosaurus can split it's jaw but Spinosaurus can't
^
if the hyper spino can split
why does hyper giga hurt when doing so
cus
That is true.
thats what i meant to type lol sry im tired
hypo giga has humongous gay
Something in those jaws isnt connected right
I dont know if it was specified H-Spino doesn't have pain
maybe the mercs are protecting company property
Hypo giga has more splits in its jaw
does it?
it does?
with little teeth on each one
Hypo Spino has barely any split in its jaws while Hypo Giga becomes the fucking Predator
Spino only has one down the middle
Giga has like 5
is there a pic of it
^
Hypo Giga has like 5 lower jaws
Apparently it's painful for the giga
Q-Q
especially in the concept art
I can already see hypo giga drooling constantly
Not to mention, MULTIPLE ROWS OF TEETH on one jaw bone.
Q-Q dont judge me
hypo spino vores deinos wen
It's supposed to be a walking blender
The Ban Loving Shrimp stops spamming this meme wen
Lmao
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lore sauce wen
i got another observation tho
Hypo rex is boring now
hypers have to hunt big dinos to eat yes?
Hypo Spino has vore fetish wen
hypo spino's just a black hole
so how does a split jaw that cant bite as well help them hunt big stuff
split jaws are for swallowing
look at snakes
yeah
yeah
Cause hypo spino is supposed to swallow things whole
tons of small teeth
the open parts dont have actual jaw bone to support it
Hypo Rex isn't boring its the strongest Hypo of them all.
its just gum
did you see the concept art?
And it has massive claws
Art shows it voring something
remain on topic pls
Ummm sirs this isn't theories
Let's go to #401464048610312195
if the big dome on v3 is an atrium, which one do you guys think it might be?


then its atrium C
its not atrium B cause its not aquatic thats for sure
could be atrium A
What are the differences in the atriums?
I thought it might be Atrium C too
Atrium B= houses neuros and aquatics
Atrium C= used to house hyper quetz and land hypers
So I think it is a safe assumption they have an Atrium where the Tissos are stored then?
Presumably Atrium A?
it is
I'm....pretty sure its very well canon.
its just getting reworked
but i got another theory
doesnt mean its getting taken out
^
Its just being reworked in a way we are clueless about.
Also, is there any significance to the new main menu on dev branch changing colors depending on time of day?
my theory is that we havent gotten any info on the tisso dinos yet because they might not exist yet in the lore universe (except for reapers)
we havent found any yet toa
We've noticed that it is by a window the Main Menu.
Otherwise it wouldn't make since why it changes.
Also The bottom red lights flash from 9pm to 5 Am
Thats it.
Atrium A might contain normal dinos that were about to be experimented on
and then something like Atrium D or E could contain magnas and tissos?
We only know of 3 Atriums.
3?
We shouldn't assume there are more.
Yeah.
I'm assuming Neuro was under Atrium B
we know fewer things about atrium b than c
a deino above normal size could probably kill a neuro spino
and i think we'll see C in game before B
A normally deino could have chance
a legendary one it would slaughter the neuro spino
Most likely
wtf is a legendary deino?
Yeah it says "Final Studies are to be concluded beneath Atrium B within (8 Letters that are Blank)."
2.0 sixe deino.
It's something big enough to fuck over a hypo
i don't think deino has much lore stuff
yeah thats what i meant
i havent heard about this legendary deino thing
i just knew they could grow to hyper size
Unless they make legendary into the hypo size
And if deino was to get a hypo size bigger then legendary
If it stays
Probably just as strong or Stronger than a Hypo.
so it'd SLAUGHTER a neuro.
Yeah
wtf is this doing in theories
Well back to theories then
huh look what I found
I hope you realize thats a cannibal
i meant tribals made it lol
cause i doubt cannibals themselves made that
and arent the tribals the ones who turned to worship?
also I feel verrry unsafe here
?
something about this place does not feel right, its an unfinished section of the map but there are things here that make it seem like you shouldn't be here
I mean that giant rib should be terrifying enough and a cannibal statue ?
there were more
i think atrium B was originaly PC
well im far away now and Im about to die but if i come across them again ill take some screen shots
there were about 5 more
where did you get that?
Its in one of the pc maps
So why is it in #isle-lore-theories ?
it should be
If itâs Primal Carnage
we're trying to analyze the connection again
They were talking about atrium b
and atrium B is part of the isle theory lore
We have no ties to PC, All they are easter eggs.
It just nods to the games
there's way too much stuff
Nothing lore related
They were originaly planing to have a conection
Were
I doubt thereâs any story ties between PC and The Isle
Because you know
Dondi said there werenât
All there are for PC and The Isle are Easter Eggs if they are connected its just a neat thing thats all.
Our Atriums are better.
neuros under atrium B
Yeah.
Cool.
and if we have atrium C
we might see atrium B
but atrium B is also mentioned to have aquatics
much like the pce one
Cool.
No doubt We'll see all the atriums..
Damn. Having the games being connected couldâve been cool as fuck though
oh i forgot about this
magnas are having their water abilities tested in atrium b as well
Ok.
actually
atrium B isnt stated to contain any aquatic creatures at this point
but it is for water testing
well my original point is that the atrium at v3 is C
cause its not aquatic
so we might see hypers once v3 is done
Atrium B :aquatic specimen study and developement (from the stream in july 2017)
I mean we still donât know what is gonna be inside the atrium
Like weâve only seen the dome
well it has trees and water inside it now
Yes but I doubt itâs just going to be a metal cage set on top of grass and dirt
Itâs literally just the metal cage
So we donât know what itâs for. And canât really derive anything from how it looks
No
why not
Itâs possible to see the hypos once v3 is release specially when it was stated that everything in AE-001 is going to be moved to v3 and hypos where going to be release when AE-001 was released
yeah and remember, v3 is where we originally saw hypers
And also itâs very curious to see dondi working on the hypo Utah and hypo carno and at the same time working on v3
mhm maybe
if you look at the log in menu you can see blood at the bottom left side of the terminal
okay new menu and new lights are flashing wtf
We know
wait what
Cleaned up a li'l bit here.
Do you guys remember when the bioluminescence for the Neuro Spino was teased in announcements?
mhm
It said "Paging Dr. Whyse". Is that some sort of vague reference to the hospital code "Paging Dr. Strong"?
Maybe Dr. Whyse is a real person but it would make sense if it was a reference to that.
Quoting the chpso.org page on confusing hospital codes (http://www.chpso.org/post/paging-dr-strong-other-confusing-hospital-emergency-codes), "Some facilities use that code to call in the security guards to deal with misbehaving patients or visitors. Code Silver in one hospital may refer to âmissing personâ and in another âsomebody with a gun.â These codes might be standardized across a hospital or a hospital system, but there is little standardization across regions or states. Some hospitals list the dozen or so codes on the back of staff identification cards, but those too, vary from hospital to hospital."
So perhaps we could at least deduce some story behind the Neuro Spino being teased and its appearance ingame (if that could count as some canon event).
Working on it, the first part didn't copy so I'll have to retpye that
Got a theory for logging on and advancing clearance levels
A brainchild

sparked someone's interest
Lol
i want to make a timeline of the events with the order i think occured
Before you share the theory on logging on
Do we have any idea what could happen if multiple users were to successfully login?
@slow delta probably a good idea
the only thing troubling me is how canon some stuff is but ill try my best
It wouldn't hurt to at least keep tabs on the questionably canon things.
Keep em in the back of your pockets for later if needed.
yeah cause i pieced a little bit of the alfie lore yesterday looking back at the older stuff
inb4 alfie has no significance to the story whatsoever
Well as far as we know he wasn't recovered.
I think its safe to assume that at one point there was a military or some sort of sufficiently armed presence on the island
Considering there are references to government officials at an executive helipad.
Who knows if they ever did anything about the giant bulletproof Quetz.
Maybe it got away. Maybe it flew off the range of islands, or simply to a different one in the same chain.
Could've gotten shot down and recovered, or just died peacefully.
Ok, my theory is pretty much a list so get ready
Since it's a hypo.
I'm ready
I'm also ready
Theory: I believe that Clearance Levels are tied to the Product Version (build) of the game you have, though this has one one really major hole that I can see, I think that I'm close to something, even if I'm not looking the right way, I still feel like I'm walking the right direction here.
Why I believe this: If you navigate to your TheIsle.exe file, right click, hit properties, and find the Details pane, you'll see a list of information about the executable appear. In this list are the words "Product version" followed by the version. Currently, mine reads as: "++UE4+Release-4.19-CL-0"
What I'm curious about is what that CL stands for. I think that the CL stands for Clearance Level, and the 0 following is my clearance level. This would make sense considering that I have no more special access to anything than mostly all of you do. What I'm thinking, is that there is a way to get a different build of the game that has higher clearance levels, with different levels of functionality and content in each.
I've also checked TheIsle.log file, and found that the Build the game starts in is the Product Version listed in that details pane.
Think about it: The easiest way to deny functionality or content is to not include it, either because it isn't ready or because you don't want people to get to it. If it's removed, there's no way for people to somehow "accidentally" get to it. So, if you want certain people to access that feature, then you give them the version that has that functionality. So, you give them a Product version that has a higher clearance level in this case. This allows the devs to either carefully distribute, or heavily monitor, when this build gets accessed. Dondi has stated that people have come close to logging in before. And they became aware when someone did. I think they are aware of this knowledge because I'm pretty sure they are able to see which builds of the game has been downloaded and how many times. I can't think of anything that could somehow notify the devs when someone is getting close to logging in. I'm sure some kind of notification or flag could be set off when they actually log in, but as for getting close, I'm not so sure.
How do I think this is done?: I think it's done through the Isle's beta tabs using a beta key. We already know that there are exclusive betas of the game not currently available to the public. An example of this is the video Anth did over the "Experimental" branch that we need a beta key in order to access it.
What I've tried: This also explains why I think it's linked to the betas: I've literally tried changing just the product number through Visual Studios to see if it would trigger some kind of change in starting up that could allow me to log in, and changing it from 0 to 10 didn't do a thing for me. Now, I've tried several different codes in the Beta Keys section of the Isle Properties through steam, but I haven't gotten any of them to work, and I've tried pretty much Everything, and have gotten nowhere. But, we do know that there are other builds of the game for sure that requires beta keys in order to be accessed, such as Anth's Experimental build that he got his hands on. So there are hidden builds that we do not know about, and I'm willing to bet that different builds for different Clearance Levels exist, I'm just not sure how to access them.
The Loophole: I don't see how you could have different builds of the game still connect to different build servers. It would be difficult making this work in a way that granted some users more content than others, though this could have been worked around, and may only affect actually joining servers, I'm not too sure.
This is pretty much all I've worked on for the last hour. Thoughts and opinions, tag me because I'll probably miss it.
Attached is a screenshot of my TheIsle.log with the build version highlighted, and the properties page of TheIsle.exe showing the product version.
interesting
I really like that theory.
but cl might stand for change log
Some people just might never be able to login soley due to their unique product item.
What if you have to set a specific launch option in the properties in your steam library?
I don't think cl stands for changelog, as I don't see hwo that could be connected with a Product Version like that
And I've tried messing with that several different times as well, all to no avail. I think it's product version connected, and you need a specific build of the game, or something else in order to get it to work
hmm
maybe we need to find a code?
well if there are different builds for logging in i dont think they would need to even be connected to the build servers
supposed these builds arent for playing
I don't think they would be able to do that since I think the goal is for everyone to eventually login, but I'm not entirely sure
And I've looked literally Everywhere for a code
I've checked everything on Tat's website, looked through all the transmissions, and have gotten zip out of it
I don't know if they'd want everyone to log in. I just feel like something bad will happen if multiple people do.
What if it's some of the hex? Or something along the lines
There's a hint of a code in the "death-screen"
I've checked there too, even recorded a clip of it
There is a password in there
But it's all *****'s
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7 digits of *'s I'm counting
Anyways, I've tried probably a hundred different combinations of different codes, formats, etc... and I've not gotten anywhere with it, but I still think I'm on generally the right track if others want to follow that line of thinking
Is this a Spino strain, by the way?
think so
its artwork so you could probably find it online
however i think i got another puzzle piece
Yes I think that's neuro spino
Looks huge.
User Inquiry: Phoenix.
Operation Inferno was a success.
Phoenix assets are required.
Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
Replicating.
Inquiry: Nova
Designate Novaraptor.
Status: Replicating
User Inquiry: Atrium C Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.
In this list Alfie is number 3 of the phoenix assets. Alfie's biological study code in the loading screens is BLS-003. Given that a biological study of utahraptors is coded as 2048 while magna's water endurance is 045, maybe we can speculate that magnas came into the picture quite early lorewise
Neuro or hypo
We see utahs (apparently magna raptors) in a hypo quetz artwork though iirc
Curious đ€
Anyone have a ss of the death screen?
Also.... the screen shot of the spino above, taken from the loading screen?
When loading into the Isle it can be seen.
Depends
while working on the alfie timeline maybe it would be a good time to watch meaty's video
Iol
Project Alphonse: The creation of the first Quetzalcoatlus.
Created by Drive, Chance.
Moniker Alfie has been adopted.
Status: Active
User Inquiry: Replicate Alphonse
Status: Pending
GeneratingâŠ
GeneratingâŠ
Status: Failed
Check Atrium C Containment.
Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
There are four subjects in association with Operation Inferno:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
User Inquiry: Atrium C
Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.
AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS
ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.
AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS
TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES H
AVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.
AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.
this is all the info i found on alfie and atrium c
-Hypendocrin Alfie was contained in Atrium C originally, however it managed to escape killing tens of staff members. This resulted in:
-Halting the development of Hyperendocrin pterosaurs
-The neutralization of all pterosaur assets after the final studies were concluded
-The readjustment of Atrium C for the housing of terrestrial Hyperendocrins
-Notes: Most stuff about Alfie before the Apollo Engineering stuff, is heavily connected to PCE lore which may be non-canon/easter eggs with no significant value to The Isle lore.
-Alfie was the first Quetzalcoatlus and the first Hyperendocrin Quetzalcoatlus specimen.
-Before becoming a Hyperendocrin, Alfie was housed in the original Atrium C from which he escaped during the PCE part of the lore.
-Operation Inferno is the acquiring of Phoenix corp assets and the destruction of leftover assets and facilities. The original Atrium C was destroyed in Operation Inferno.
-The new Atrium C is mentioned to be moved to Island Three and is possibly the Atrium where Hyper Alfie escapes from and is later used for housing the terrestrial Hypers.
-It is also mentioned that Hyperendocrin specimens suffer from volatile effects and because of these only Tyrannosaurus,Giganotosaurus,Spinosaurus and Utahraptor specimens may be chosen. (Carnotaurus isn't mentioned either by accident or because these loading screens are outdated/non-cannon at this point). Maybe Hyperendocrin Pterosaurs suffer heavily from these volatile effects, which is why their development and study termination was deemed necessary. It is also a possible cause for Alfie's escape.
-Alfie is still Missing in Action, possibly the only (Hyper) Quetzalcoatlus specimen still alive.```
and here is my compilation of it
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Fuck me
You guys have been working damn hard hahaha
@tiny carbon That is a really solid theory. I'm willing to back you on that.
Also @slow delta I like the idea of Magna's coming into the picture early. I know they're said to be the most perfected state of a dinosaur (or something along those lines) but what if they where a base for the strains themselves?
Iirc someone in this channel theorized that magna was designed to correct the Hyper's major fault: The extreme hunger
dondi replied with a đ to that
closest thing to a confirmation we have
Ah got ya. Sorry I'm not entirely scrubbed up on everything
Anyone remember that mention of the matriarch in the loading screens?
Yeah but it wasnt anything solod
Solid
It just said she was the matriarch and nobody would take her children
Doesnt even have to be THE matriarch
Tapwings matriarch reminds me of a xenomorph like how it looks like it uses dna of other animals to adapt itself
its just that in the loading screen that mentions the matriarch it also mentions her offspring...
which is what
Well now that i think about it, strains cant have offspring
I think personally there was some strange stuff going on on the island from day one. For example the rumours of the island walkers. I think maybe the matriarch species was already on the island, but maybe it was only in early stages of its evolution
Do we know that for sure? @crisp ermine
I think that has been confirmed
Oh right, interesting
Not 100% sure
Strains are sterile
Would make a lot of sense if they weren't able to
but, we don't know if Magna or the Matriarch are considered strains
That's a good point. Never thought ofd that before ^^
I believe magna isnt considerd a strain (not sure tho)
It's the perfected version of the hypo (a killer but won't starve to death, which is why it's smaller)
So yes, it should be a strain.
Has it been explicitly stated as such?
More or less.
Okay
I am sure Magna is considered a strain
I donât remember it ever being called a strain by a credible source
I mean its referred to as type-m
the same as the others
and magna type was created
so strain
I have a video on this somewhere, cant remember where I talked about it in more detail though
as for the matriarch I have no idea, I wouldnt think its a strain as it was one creature made to basically be better than everything else
Yeah
But why are they making dinosaurs and constantly-evolving organisms?
Apollo Engineering probably had some Military ideas to use the Dinos with
Few of Todays current animals could stand up to alot of the Dinosaurs that existed
See ya could do that
or make robots
sure robots could be hacked
but at least those can be controlled
neuro spino has emp to use against robots though :v
I donât think thatâs quite right, simply for the fact that the logo or whatever you call it for Apollo Engineering is âwe succeed where nature failsâ implying that theyâre either A. Creating organisms for military use or B. Tampering with nature to create the perfect organism for nothing more than science (which has kind of been implied throughout a lot of thing weâve seen in the lore)
Just my thoughts, even though it doesnât really get us anywhere :/
The goal is the creation of the perfect organism
I dont think its for military
Why does everyone keep thinking that its for military use?
Probably the sheer killing ability of all the strains. They're all designed to kill in some sort of way, and they've been made masters of killing that way. Why make a creature that has the power to destroy you in a second unless it's meant for that?
Otherwise, it would just be a dumb risk
Why would they make a strain that can disable electronics and another that can withstand heavy artillery?
Will someone with good internet test something for me really fast?
My game is doing something but I'm not sure what it is and I think I've connected it to this
Could just be my bad internet
but I want to make sure
So literally anyone with a connection pls
wait maybe not
hold on
Yeah nevermind I think I'm not doing anything special
So they try to create the perfect organism and then use it for military purpose?
From how I understand it the main creator of this place or the person behind all/most of this lost someone important and is trying to get them back, toying with the idea of transferring consciousness from one being to another, etc... and he may be trying to create the perfect organism physically for their consciousness to inhabit? sounds reasonable enough to me
Can the hypo withstand heavy artillery
It has heavy armor but not that strong
If rexes can damage it the artiliry can to
*then
maybe military purpuses but i think the objective is to test on creatures first, and then humans, to create some sort of super soldier, also what if the strains are not made by humans, but are derivatives from the matriarch, wich could be a specific creature injected with a substance exctracted and formulated based on the remains of what i would call "the first ones"?
I mean theoretically speaking its hide has to be about as solid as rock and probably quite decently thick, gameplay wise a rex kinda has to damage it or it would be completely unfair, and for all we know nothing except heavy artilary will be able to hurt it later on as the game progresses. Lore-wise, it doesn't make a lot of sense for teeth to pierce that
That last part i like
but I have no idea
My reaction was a second to late
i mean the Hypo is not entirely cover with armor, if a rex bites anywere except the back or head i think it can pirce, what he meant maybe was that a heavy arty shell would have problems to pirce but still would cause kinetic damage and splash
also you dont wanna make a Hypo Rex a type 5 heavy
Didn't they have to make like anti-hypo weapons?
All we have seen are the unfinished Hyperendocrins. Nowhere has it solidly been said to my knowledge that a rex would be able to inflict any form of Physical damage on a Hyperendocrin.
For all we know, they are untouchable. I mean, the only thing we know that can kill a Hyperendocrin Strain would be a Magna Strain, which we happen to know little of, aside from they are supposed to be a perfected life form.
In game rexes can kill hypers
So probably all top tier carnivores and strains can kill other strains
Oh and pues
So i dont think strains are for military use
Animals arent viable when you have drones artillery etc
Perhaps its more of a mad scientists scenario
See how far science can go without morals or hesitation
Since they have been doing human experimentation too
I donât see a hypo being able for military use because then why would they want it too have such a large amount of hunger giving it a very short lifespam?
Yeah and it doesnt make sense to waste millions on research and development for using them to destroy ecosystems when you can just bomb the place
there could some global event going on that's making them research what they are doing, we don't really know a whole lot of the isle's world outside of the dinosaurs and AE
Im not sure if i remember this right or if its stil accurate but i remember hearing long ago that Phoenix corp and AE were in some sort of competition (or they were just enemies idk)
There is Phoenix corp. logo in the new intro
It's the caduceus
Oh really. just little bit similar
..
One sec
Welcome to The Isle.We succeed where nature fails.Death is only the beginning.
That was a section of Binary when loading in to Game.
I can see the similarities
Where did you get that Phoenix logo from?
This is the one that is seen when loading into the game.
I could see it being used as a nod to Phoenix without actually using the logo
it's caduceus staff imo.
?
dino đ your message, which means he agrees đ
so yea it doesn't have anything to do with phoenix
Oh cool
now if we could get a confirmation on alfie's past
oh
alfie
o h
well rip my whole atrium C theory
i see
rest in piece hyper alfie
oh let me repost it
-Alfie was the third designated asset acquired by Phoenix Corp during Operation Inferno. In the Apollo Engineering loading screens, the biological study referring to Alfie is designated as AE-BLS-003. Possible connection between the 2 threes?
-Hypendocrin Alfie was contained in Atrium C originally, however it managed to escape killing tens of staff members. This resulted in:
-Halting the development of Hyperendocrin pterosaurs
-The neutralization of all pterosaur assets after the final studies were concluded
-The readjustment of Atrium C for the housing of terrestrial Hyperendocrins
-Notes: Most stuff about Alfie before the Apollo Engineering stuff, is heavily connected to PCE lore which may be non-canon/easter eggs with no significant value to The Isle lore.
-Alfie was the first Quetzalcoatlus and the first Hyperendocrin Quetzalcoatlus specimen.
-Before becoming a Hyperendocrin, Alfie was housed in the original Atrium C from which he escaped during the PCE part of the lore.
-Operation Inferno is the acquiring of Phoenix corp assets and the destruction of leftover assets and facilities. The original Atrium C was destroyed in Operation Inferno.
-The new Atrium C is mentioned to be moved to Island Three and is possibly the Atrium where Hyper Alfie escapes from and is later used for housing the terrestrial Hypers.
-It is also mentioned that Hyperendocrin specimens suffer from volatile effects and because of these only Tyrannosaurus,Giganotosaurus,Spinosaurus and Utahraptor specimens may be chosen. (Carnotaurus isn't mentioned either by accident or because these loading screens are outdated/non-cannon at this point). Maybe Hyperendocrin Pterosaurs suffer heavily from these volatile effects, which is why their development and study termination was deemed necessary. It is also a possible cause for Alfie's escape.
-Alfie is still Missing in Action, possibly the only (Hyper) Quetzalcoatlus specimen still alive.
i made it using the first console stream and the loading screens as sources
**here's the sources:
Project Alphonse: The creation of the first Quetzalcoatlus.
Created by Drive, Chance.
Moniker Alfie has been adopted.
Status: Active
User Inquiry: Replicate Alphonse
Status: Pending
GeneratingâŠ
GeneratingâŠ
Status: Failed
Check Atrium C Containment.
Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
There are four subjects in association with Operation Inferno:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
User Inquiry: Atrium C
Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.
AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS
ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.
AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS
TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES H
AVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.
AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C
TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.**
I think the reason the hypo carno wasnât mentioned is because it was under code name: HADES
seems weird not to include it in a report when you include other species
it may have just been skipped due to the size limit of the text
i have a little theory on atrium B too but its less fancy than C's
Well the original Atrium B in pce was for aquatic research and development and well it gets destroyed in Operation Inferno. AE remakes a new Atrium B for the same purpose. However since they haven't developped any aquatic creatures yet it was being used as a water endurance test facility for terrestrial strains (source: AE-BLS-045 WATER ENDURANCE loading screen). Now in my headcannon the neuros and tissos get created after the creation of the magna and perfection of the hyper strain so further perfections for those neuros and tissos aren't needed. For some reason a contamination of type-n material happens and the final studies are concluded underneath atrium B for an unknown reason.
**loading screen sources:
AE-AES-1073
TYPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
AE-BLS-045
WATER ENDURANCE
ALL CASE STUDIES AS OF (10 LETTERS)-2014 HAVE SHOWN THAT ALL GEN-1 SPECIES CANNOT TREAD WATER FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. DUE TO SIZE ISSUES OF NEWEST TYPE-M SPECIMENS, ALL FURTHER AQUATIC BIOLOGICAL STUDIES WILL MOVED TO ATRIUM B (POD 4) UNTIL THE BAY LOCKE IS FINISHED DEVELOPMENT. REPORT ALL ENDURANCE TIMINGS TO DR. (10 LETTERS).**
i really enjoyed looking back on the older lore pieces and trying to piece a puzzle but the problem is most of this stuff might be non-cannon/irrelevant/outdated at this point
I thought Magna was developed after the H T N trio
i dont think we've had anything official and im just going with what we've seen in game or what is more realistic
Are there dates on the loading screens for the strain info?
the only date so far is the water endurance one in which we see magnas existing already in 2014
the first generation of magnas that is
however it mentions the size issues of the newest type-m specimens
so maybe there are older magnas even earlier
I guess we don't know yet if the chronology is already pre-decided or based on when they were actually added into the game
because it seemed to be going both ways
my headcannon is that AE develops hypers and then try to perfect the strain before moving on to the more advanced ones (neuro and tisso for which they may have done earlier human experiments but not produced any dinos yet)
true
Possible
You know, does anyone know if the binary on the loading screen has changed since it's been added?
I translated it when it was first added
one of us translated it a few days ago when it became all visible
but idk if this update did anything
Does it still say "The Isle" over and over?
no
check the pinned doc
it has all the stuff we worked on the past days and it has that too
Thanks. Interesting to through developments, since I haven't been paying attention since last year.
yeah its understandable
Also, just a thought about the message of "You are being controlled" appearing in the radio tower morse code
Considering that one would assume any morse code from that is meant for humans to hear, do you think that it might be referring to the whole "profile" situation?
I mean, it could also be meant for the profiles, but I don't think that'd make sense, unless I missed something.
im not sure myself
Damn I don't check this chat for like an hour or two I miss out on THeory time with Dondi
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Oh ok
When we have something like hyper alfie who is mentioned in the loading screens but also related to pce, is it considered canon/part of the lore?
There wasn't any mention of a hyperendocrine Quetz in PC:E
Just plain old normal Alfie the normal Quetz
Well actually PC:E Alfie had genetically reduced muscles/tendons and respiratory system so he couldn't fly as long (and therefore not leave the island)
PC:E Alfie was a weak ass beta male with asthma
An actual place I'd imagine
Why not both?
Why would you think its an computer program?
We know that the Radio Tower on Thenyaw is Transmitting the question is where it is transmitting from
Lmao how many times does the PC connection need to be denied
many times
stl what bugs me is the relationship between phoenix and Apollo,
are they competitors or subcompanies
like while phoenix "We Succeed Where Nature Fails" i belive is in the evolutive part of the dinosaurs as they are, while Apollo Engienering does the N,H,T,M research apart
or maybe phoneix specializes in the biological aspect of the isle and the stability of it, while as the name suggests, AE enfacices in engienering, maybe not entirely genetic but pure engienering.
while Phonex does the dino related research, AE takes executive decitions and if you see in the transcripts, the way the moce from atrium to atrium different creatures and how they make analysis on their characteristics and consequences, sounds like they are some sort of industrial ingeniers that monitor proces and quality assurance, also they take the decitions on what to do with what, and so on, but thats just ma opinion
PCE and TI aren't connected
we already know Shrimp
Then why are you connecting Apollo and Phoenix...
Because just because they share a name doesn't mean they're the same?
They may have changed the name of that company after the whole pc:e thing didnât go through
Seeing as how we never hear that name mentioned outright since the beginning of the lore stuffs being introduced
Phoenix assets
This was during one of the biggest lore events we had.
Of course, it doesn't mention a Phoenix corp
It could refer to a number of things.
Heck, Phoenix assets could imply the nature of replication instead, being like a "Phoenix" and coming to life after death
doesnt make much sence but anyway
Or is set to be instantly replicated on the event of there isn't being any new information sent to the system (died)?
I still think Phoenix Assets just means that Phoenix Corp property, but that could be something else
Assets are the dinosaurs themselves. A combination of a profile and a host. A Phoenix asset is basically a dinosaur owned by them (example: the Magnatyrannus) Phoenix Corp is canon, I believe, but itâs not connected to the PC in Primal Carnage. Just some clarification for you guys (I think everything I said is correct?)
I don't believe we know what an "asset" entails
We are profiles
It referred to our steam profiles during Terminal time
I think an asset is just what's necessary to put a living being together
But the profile is seperate
We come in after
I don't believe so. Completely. An Asset is something that you own. Something that has value to you. Going by the Bing definition:
1: a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality.
2: property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies.
3: military equipment, such as planes, ships, communications and radar installations, employed or targeted in military operations.
So I think that assets is referring to all the equipment, the dinosaurs, the islands, and the information (profiles, EIP's, etc...)
Everything that they "legally" own
or claim ownership of anyways
I believe it could be used in either sense
For example, Operation Inferno got the assets for the 4 creatures.
Notice the assets mentioned only refer to the creatures
So it appears in this sense, property was left out of it
What I also find interesting is that the Atriums were replicated.
Or rather, Atrium B is being replicated
And Atrium C is being moved
Important distinction, or just wording? Who knows.
If you look at some of the loading screens they refer to assets as individual creatures, not just a species or strain as a whole ( look at type-h specimens loading screen ) Every creature has a profile in it.
I think a better wording is every creature is supposed to eventually have a profile in it. I don't think profiles are introduced straight at the beginning of the replication process, I think it waits until they're more developed, or "At the point they need to be". So, it could be that some of the assets indie is referencing don't have profiles introduced yet, which could be why all these breakouts, accidents, and general unpredictable behavior are happening
Hmmm.... prepare for a bumpy ride? đ€
Tectonic shift, eruption or massive tsunami...
Earthquakes are usually the causes of some other disasters
Eruptions could lead to a scorched landscape
Tsunami could lead to a flood
If it is a eruption though Thenyaw is the only map atm with a volcano if I am right
If it is a eruption though Thenyaw is the only map atm with a volcano if I am right
hm
thing is
thenyaw is very small as an island
an eruption would probably decimate its entire ecosystem if not make it inhabitable completely
Very true depending on the size and type of eruption
But that's only one way to have seismic activity
yeah
Not sure if anyone has caught this or it's old news but....
WIND VELOCITY: NORMAL
WATER SALINITY: NORMAL
PRECIPITATION: NORMAL
SEISMIC ACTIVITY: PROBLEM
Like I stated above... prepare for a possible bumpy ride.. whether it be caused by the volcano, a tsunami, or simply some one or thing disturbing the measuring equipment.
I could be wrong but, I think this coincides with the 23rd...
Peculiar formationđ€
PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD.
IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.
Nice touch, thanks @icy onyx
No problem.
I'd definitely keep an open ear and eyes on anything "emerging" from areas like that cave not to mention known high activity locations
Which map is that cave on? I haven't had much chance to explore yet
Thenyaw
There's two locations like that, the one above has boulders and other debris. It appears at least imo to be covering something
I'm hearing
Aquatic isle incoming
Nah, but I get the feeling we're going to have more friendsđ
Phase 1 starts soon, interesting to see what is going to happen on the 23rd
I think Phase 1 has already started
It has.
Ah
Yeah, I posted the entire thing to jog everyone's memory
My guess is if this eruption happens
It will bring new challenges to thenyaw hence the profiles needing to adapt
Or it could bring the end of Thenyaw
If the 23rd means Poseidon rises and gases emurges
Earthquake could mean Poseidon rising hence earthquakes tend to cause tsunamis
Hades may not have to do anything with the volcano
hmhm, but hades is hypo carno?
Hence Code Hades standing for the Hypo Carno
And phantoms falling from the sky my guess is cannibals
Many large changes at once will cause rapid adaptation
I doubt cannibals would "fall" from the sky... however, a loot drop on the other hand.
My theory is. July 23rd a Tsunami takes its toll on Thenyaw causing massive flooding. Hades emerges and a Hypo Carno AI being added or Hypo Carno being released. Phantoms will fall from the sky with the release of cannibals. If I recall as well I think cannibals could climb trees. So them being in the thick redwoods and being on top of the trees when they jump down it would seem like Phantoms were falling from the sky.
What if the phantoms are the mercenaries parachuting in?
Seems unlikely to me
i am going to cry if hypo carno is added when I am not here
It specially describes this as Phantoms falling from the sky
Mercenaries are people they are working for a purpose
Cannibals are savage they mainly survive in primal instinct.
In real life phantoms are sometimes what people call ghost. A ghost is a human who is dead but they also seem somewhat alive.
Cannibals could have possibly once been humans
Hence them being called phantoms
Just a theory though
We only have like 3 more days until the 23rd
We better prepare ourselves cause my guess is we will have our hands full with lore shit
Aye
where does the hyper carno being hades come from?
I think the hyper carno is referred to as code Hades somewhere
I'm not sure though
I might be wrong
I don't see why the Hypo carno would be reffered to as Code Hades when none of the other strain dinos have been given such names, except for Hypo Rex's Thronebreaker
everybody says it is but i havent seen it anywhere
Yeah I've had a quick search and can't find anything
it's from a picture dondi sent.
link
when you put the saturation up or something, it showed the hypo carno's face and Hades in the background (in the trees)
gonna try to find it.
I've seen the pic but never the saturated version
And I think it may have the H-Carno in it, but I've never seen the Hades in the trees
:/
wont load
nvm
^this one's the important one
cause dondi says "Hades? Did someone say Hades?" and then sends the hypo carno
so like
the tree openings part is wrong on my part btw
Do you think you could get everything that was above what he said
maybe he called it hades cause of the horns
so we can get some context on who said hades
and what they were talking about
pls
Because if this is Code Hades
Then I'm willing to bet that Poseidon is another strain animal
nobody said hades
they were talking about diablos i see
That's why I was asking for context
i dont see why a hyper carno would be so important
ppl are looking way too deep into it
and thats coming from me
I honestly just think that Code Hades is an operation of sorts that could involve the Hypo-Carno (now factoring in context clues from Don's posts and pic), but I don't actually think that the carno is named Hades
That post itself also lends me to believe this
leads*
hades protocol
ok
so why is hyper carno related to this aside from 1 post dondi made
Because from what I posted above
Honestly because if dondi says anything it should be taken pretty heavily
as it's unlikely that he would straight up try to decieve us
Especially since we're so lost
"The rabbit hole is this way losers!" he shouts into the treeline as we stumble around with magnifying glasses looking at specs of dust
I don't think that Hades is the H-Carno, but I think that it could involve the Carno. Taking dons post as a confirmation is wayyyy to straightforward compared to everything else he's given us, so I think there's much more to the Hades protocol than jus the carno. It's late for me. Goodnight đ
Hades Protocol could be part of phase one
And everything that is happening in the 23rd could just be part of phase one and part of hades protocol
what if on the 23rd we get something completely unrelated to the lore pieces we've been looking at so far
similar to how the magna reveal happened
it could be a drawing
maybe tribals?
tribals worship cannibals and we saw a drawing of sorts and a statue in v3
doesn't look like a drawing
it could be one
everyone thinks its a live cannibal but then who survived to take the photo
Either way I think they are close
If I was to theorize I'd say something is happening with the volcano which those caves are tied into and possibly where something will emerge from...
Since we got "teased"with cannibal/tribal...
When the seismic activity occurs that's where the action will be...
But that's just a thought, could be that something is messing with the measuring equipment which is why we see the seismic: problem..
i dont think it would make sense to have cannibals before tribals
Why not at the same time đž
we do not know what was dead in the pic
Indoraptor confirmed is a fake or not ?!
Oh god thank
You have the issue of copy right and also its a bad idea in general that creature was useless
Yea we want to have hypo utah xD
:/
The cannibal teaser was an illustration done by Tapwing. It must've been for the little teaser. I think maybe on the 23rd we might see a dev stream with cannibals. OR we're going to get a big ol' chunk of info about something. Whether it be the rrplicator, or Tartarus etc. Idk. I don't think any of us do hahaha.
I can't confirm it was done by Tapwing, but it's extremely similar to her usual stuff
Similar yeah. But I think her rendering skills have MASSIVELY improved since that
Not that that's shit, because it ain't haha
I think whatever we get, it's going to help is quite a bit with figuring various things out. Maybe it'll be a sort of key as to how we log in
i hope so
i mean compared to all human classes, mers and tribals are pretty much done
they haven't even been started. most of what deathly did is invalid at this point so we'd probably have to scrap it when we get down to non-dinosaur classes, though i grant you they'll probably be a lot easier to get fully working than the dinos were.
oh i was referring to the fact that they were playable for a bit unlike cannibals
but thats good to know
i guess this means no humans on the 23rd
Nah I didn't imagine so. I'd imagine you guys want to get everything as polished as possible with the Dino's etc. And then move onto humans
hey guys has anyone cracked the morse code on the the isle menu yet? if not i gave it a try...
i got APOLLO CORE ONLINE SYS CHK
and then i got a number 148
ahh gg man
i got 1110 1000 i thought that was hexa decimal; 1110=14 and 1000=8 binary to decimal
thats not hex
sry binary
the morse changes every time you launch the game
you can get 3 versions
text, hex and binary
the only one i had trouble with was the hex one cause im missing a word
k thx for the info im try to find the 3d one then...xD
good luck
lol thx man
hmm i get this crap with the hexa to ascii convertion: s at 50%STAT C8K Aurora snthes...loool
for the 3d morse code
what did u guys get for this code?i mean for the rly long morse code?
with a lot of numbers and a few letters in it
My guess is maybe the Auroras we see in the sky all the time are fake
They are man-made Auroras
Cause we do not know where these islands are in the world
I don't think there is really any islands that are like these, and as diverse as these that are far enough north/south to see Auroras
yeah thats pretty much what i got too
there's something wrong with the morse
its not decrypting properly
ah ok..thx for ur answers!<3
thx buder for trying to make some sense out of the morse crap!xD
is the green light in the top left hand corner flashing morse code?
of the main menu
@naive mountain im not sure, i tried to decode it, but the lights werent bright enough and the signals werent clear enough for me to distinct properly. best thing to do, try it and let us know if ur successfull...xD
oi u slaves get working there's a new patch 
omgggg new patch...that means new info right....right?
The most that couldâve been changed is the morse code at the radio tower on thenyaw, but even then thatâs very unlikely. Could be wrong though.
They said they removed the sounds from the core ambiance, so I'm willing to bet that it makes the morse easier to hear than anything
Also
Spectator mode near the top of the tower is wher the source sound of the morse is
flying up there is the easiest way to haer it clearly
hear*
cheater.
Doesn't Khorne have a way to really quickly translate the morse now that the ambiance is gone?
You can decode it while its transmitting with programs but the quality wont be that great
But yeah the ambiance thing is a biggie for us
wait wait wait
Disconnected random sounds in core ambiences (creaks, birds, etc.) for now
is that the ambient noise one
Yes
@proper steppe yeah he seems to have some sort of program same with meaty
it's not like i removed the static from the radio transmission
most of it is redwoods stuff, since there were sometimes 50 different sounds being used for the backing track in there.
Oh, Well time to get to decoding if there is more morse code that what was actually decoded.
Better safe than sorry
i would record it but my replays are borked :/
I wonder if we will get a big stream on the 23rd or on the 22nd the day leading up to the 23rd
no idea
So, did anyone consider with this tweet:
Look to the sky at the right time. The path to gateway has been there all along.
That maybe that's referring to the auroras?
I mean, I don't believe that the island(s) are near anywhere where it would occur naturally.
true however
people have mentioned that they looked at the sky for hours
i have an idea tho
stare at the sky for 24 hours
i wonder how big replays can get
we could record the sky for 24 hours and speed it up in a video
every time is the right time when its all day
that tweet was made some time ago
i doubt it would be referring to such a future event
i think at a certain time, a certain north star becomes morse
Perhaps try to go below where the auroras are?
My thought was the auroras are caused by something, and aren't as they appear.
Right now, we don't have a reason for them.
hmm
...
what be that
e.e
That's the magna rex's test roar
e.e
Yeah definitely a magna
If you turn it up really loud it sounds like a rex
and he showed magna roars at another point in the stream as well
Maybe another Strain? Could be Hypo Carno or Utah
Maybe Another Neuro
Or maybe they are working on Tissos
Idk
It's a magna rex test roar
He literally said "here's the magna rex's test roar"
It's unfinished
Huh Wasn't there for stream but thought I heard that in a clip.
yeah, it was stated in a separate clip than the "oops, you weren't supposed to hear that" one
but the magna rex test roar happened after the sound tease thing...
In the stream i notices a giant cannibal statue inside some rocks he was fiddling with
In the large vertical cliffface
its there still just inside the rocks and used as a waterfall
Ah
;3
im in the radio tower
