#isle-lore-theories

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placid harness
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Some people say devs said phoenix isnt canon, some say the didnt

static crater
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don't think the caduceus has a globe on it

slow delta
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and here it isays b443 are specimens

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so is b443 a facility for all father or a rex specimen?

static crater
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wait lemme just

slow delta
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its probably a rex specimen if you go with the new loading screens

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but then that makes the pce connection stronger

static crater
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yeah pretty sure B-443 is a rex

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but like

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isn't the PCE rex the magna rex or something?

naive mountain
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ALLFATHER = magnatyrannus

slow delta
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doubt it

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maybe idk

placid harness
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PCE rex aint magna rex.

slow delta
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kinda early for magna to appear in the lore tho

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if its a refined hyper strain

placid harness
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^

slow delta
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surely hypers (throne breaker) must have been developped first

placid harness
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officially confirmed, too

sinful wraith
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throne breaker is thought to be the hypo rex

slow delta
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but then how tf is a hyper rex a phoenix asset

sinful wraith
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by Meaty

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her has source I think

placid harness
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So are Magnas the only refined version of strains we are gonna see? Or is there just some legit god-like Neurotenic that can control an entire species at will?

slow delta
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we all know this simi

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hyper rex is nicknamed the throne breaker

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but so was the pce spino lol

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i feel like the neuro and tisso strains are already refined

sinful wraith
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I thought by saying hyper(s) you thought all hypos were throne breaker

slow delta
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nah

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im just referring to the rexes atm

placid harness
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H-rex was only referred to as Thronebreaker in like one old facebook post I think

slow delta
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yeah

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hmm

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realistically speaking

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making a steroid monster (hyperendocrin) would be easier than making the tisso or neuro

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so chronologically the hyper strain was developped early and then needed refining (magna)

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but the more recent neuro and tisso might not need

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hell we havent seen anything on tissos, even tho reapers are around

placid harness
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I guess the pure nature of Hyperendocrin strain just warranted its refinement.

slow delta
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yeah

placid harness
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Big giant things that tank and eat

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Man, the purpose for these strains must be so fucked

icy onyx
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The whole thing about Hypos is the were made to go in and and destroy the ecosystem so it could be reset.

crisp ermine
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Is that confirmed?

placid harness
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Thats the thing though

icy onyx
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Nothing is Confirmed buddy.

crisp ermine
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K becouse i always doubted that

placid harness
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Magna is basically Hypo mk2 and they don't starve

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The fact that from generation to generation, the effort to make the strain live longer makes me think it wasn't that they were going to just use these things once

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Probably over and over

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Controlling them to do whatever

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And I doubt someone just wants to clone a bunch of conventional weapon resistant dinosaurs just to "wipe out an ecosystem"

icy onyx
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You'd be shocked what you can do with cloning

placid harness
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Cloning isn't free, though.

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Even massive companies have constraints.

icy onyx
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Yeah.

crisp ermine
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The final objective is to create the perfect organism

icy onyx
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Yes.

placid harness
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Okay, so lets say you got Magnas and Hypos for tactical reasons.

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What the hell are Neuros for?

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Definitely not magic tricks.

crisp ermine
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Support

icy onyx
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Who cares for Tactical reasons.

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They are a island.

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On a island*

rapid wing
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N Spino can alter weather, so I suggested ecological editing

slow delta
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dont neuros have bioelectrical abilities/emp etc?

placid harness
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I believe so

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Oh yeah, I forgot about the EMP

crisp ermine
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I dont think that the dinos are ment for military

slow delta
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i hope not

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would be way overused

rapid wing
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Maybe Neuros are basically anti merc machines

slow delta
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and less mystical

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besides if mercs have access to hyper killing weapons, what the point of their military use

crisp ermine
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I think the mercs are hired security

slow delta
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yeah but if guns can be made to kill em then surely whole armies could do the same

placid harness
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Well, I mean, not everyone is going to just have their pocket-hypo-killer.

slow delta
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yeah not in game

placid harness
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World wise.

slow delta
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i dont see how a hyper rex can survive bombings or drones or whatever

icy onyx
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It will most likely be heavily injured.

placid harness
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Maybe a very expensive icon of terror

rapid wing
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I am very concerned about the Hypo Giga and its jaw pain... something about that feels wrong

placid harness
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^

icy onyx
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Why?

placid harness
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They obviously dont give a fuck about the creatures feelings or comfort

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They are functional items of sorts

pliant burrow
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There is no way that hypo giga can survive for long with that jaw

placid harness
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Well, not like Hypos are going to survive long anyways.

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As long as they control the creatures through whatever mystic voodoo genie whohocking that AE has going on in those labs they could care less about its comfort.

slow delta
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im confused about something

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if the hyper giga can split its jaw

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why cant the giga

rapid wing
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Because the Giga is a normal dinosaur...?

icy onyx
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Because the Strain is a mutated version.

rapid wing
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How are you confused about that lol

static crater
placid harness
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Thats also something we're foggy on. We don't know how exactly the strains work.

icy onyx
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It enhanced the dinosaur in many ways also, Who the fuck knows what AE does to strains.

slow delta
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wait wtf

placid harness
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A strain could be a bacteria, a serum, who knows

slow delta
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i mistyped

static crater
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It's not something we're foggy on

coral bronze
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In the same way Hypo Spinosaurus can split it's jaw but Spinosaurus can't

static crater
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^

slow delta
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if the hyper spino can split
why does hyper giga hurt when doing so

static crater
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cus

icy onyx
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That is true.

slow delta
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thats what i meant to type lol sry im tired

static crater
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hypo giga has humongous gay

rapid wing
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Something in those jaws isnt connected right

placid harness
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I dont know if it was specified H-Spino doesn't have pain

buoyant heart
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maybe the mercs are protecting company property

coral bronze
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Hypo giga has more splits in its jaw

slow delta
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does it?

buoyant heart
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it does?

static crater
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yea

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hypo giga has like 4 jaw segments

buoyant heart
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o.o

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woah

static crater
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with little teeth on each one

rapid wing
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Hypo Spino has barely any split in its jaws while Hypo Giga becomes the fucking Predator

coral bronze
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Spino only has one down the middle
Giga has like 5

buoyant heart
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is there a pic of it

placid harness
static crater
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^

buoyant heart
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e-e

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oh

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O_O

placid harness
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Hypo Giga has like 5 lower jaws

buoyant heart
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I never noticed that

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o-o

static crater
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y

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its

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very prominent

coral bronze
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Apparently it's painful for the giga

buoyant heart
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Q-Q

static crater
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especially in the concept art

pliant burrow
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I can already see hypo giga drooling constantly

placid harness
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Not to mention, MULTIPLE ROWS OF TEETH on one jaw bone.

buoyant heart
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Q-Q dont judge me

static crater
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hypo spino vores deinos wen

coral bronze
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It's supposed to be a walking blender

rapid wing
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The Ban Loving Shrimp stops spamming this meme wen

static crater
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all of tapwing's strain concepts are added to the game wen

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im sorry

rapid wing
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Lmao

slow delta
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😑

buoyant heart
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yes

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please

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;w;

static crater
sinful wraith
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lore sauce wen

placid harness
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Yeah Hypo Spino is like a python

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If it catches you, down the gullet.

slow delta
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i got another observation tho

coral bronze
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Hypo rex is boring now

slow delta
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hypers have to hunt big dinos to eat yes?

rapid wing
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Hypo Spino has vore fetish wen

static crater
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hypo spino's just a black hole

slow delta
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so how does a split jaw that cant bite as well help them hunt big stuff

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split jaws are for swallowing

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look at snakes

static crater
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cause

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di you see its fucking mouth

slow delta
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yeah

static crater
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yeah

coral bronze
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Cause hypo spino is supposed to swallow things whole

static crater
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tons of small teeth

slow delta
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the open parts dont have actual jaw bone to support it

icy onyx
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Hypo Rex isn't boring its the strongest Hypo of them all.

slow delta
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its just gum

sharp frigate
static crater
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did you see the concept art?

placid harness
coral bronze
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And it has massive claws

placid harness
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Art shows it voring something

sharp frigate
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remain on topic pls

icy onyx
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Ummm sirs this isn't theories

slow delta
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oh

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we got carried away woops

coral bronze
icy onyx
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@sharp frigate So talking about Hypos Isn't on topic?

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And theorizing about em..

pliant burrow
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if the big dome on v3 is an atrium, which one do you guys think it might be?

placid harness
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Theorizing about how they work

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Why they have certain traits

static crater
slow delta
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hmm

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is v3 is island 3

copper kestrel
slow delta
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then its atrium C

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its not atrium B cause its not aquatic thats for sure

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could be atrium A

nocturne cosmos
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What are the differences in the atriums?

pliant burrow
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I thought it might be Atrium C too

slow delta
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Atrium B= houses neuros and aquatics
Atrium C= used to house hyper quetz and land hypers

placid harness
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So I think it is a safe assumption they have an Atrium where the Tissos are stored then?

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Presumably Atrium A?

static crater
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Artium A tisso confirmd?

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holy spelling

icy onyx
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No.

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We dont know if Tisso is still canon.

slow delta
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it is

placid harness
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I'm....pretty sure its very well canon.

static crater
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its just getting reworked

slow delta
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but i got another theory

static crater
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doesnt mean its getting taken out

tribal trench
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^

placid harness
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Its just being reworked in a way we are clueless about.

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Also, is there any significance to the new main menu on dev branch changing colors depending on time of day?

slow delta
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my theory is that we havent gotten any info on the tisso dinos yet because they might not exist yet in the lore universe (except for reapers)

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we havent found any yet toa

icy onyx
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We've noticed that it is by a window the Main Menu.

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Otherwise it wouldn't make since why it changes.

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Also The bottom red lights flash from 9pm to 5 Am

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Thats it.

slow delta
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Atrium A might contain normal dinos that were about to be experimented on
and then something like Atrium D or E could contain magnas and tissos?

icy onyx
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We only know of 3 Atriums.

slow delta
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3?

icy onyx
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We shouldn't assume there are more.

slow delta
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well if B and C exist

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its logical and A has to

icy onyx
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Yeah.

slow delta
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what confuses me is that atrium b is for aquatics and neuros

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how does that work

icy onyx
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I'm assuming Neuro was under Atrium B

slow delta
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we know fewer things about atrium b than c

tribal trench
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a deino above normal size could probably kill a neuro spino

slow delta
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and i think we'll see C in game before B

tribal trench
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a legendary deino i mean

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so..

nocturne cosmos
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A normally deino could have chance

tribal trench
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a legendary one it would slaughter the neuro spino

nocturne cosmos
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Most likely

slow delta
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wtf is a legendary deino?

icy onyx
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Yeah it says "Final Studies are to be concluded beneath Atrium B within (8 Letters that are Blank)."

tribal trench
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2.0 sixe deino.

nocturne cosmos
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It's something big enough to fuck over a hypo

slow delta
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hmm

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ah that thing

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it got a name?

nocturne cosmos
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Nope

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Other then legendary

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I guess

tribal trench
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i don't think deino has much lore stuff

slow delta
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yeah thats what i meant

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i havent heard about this legendary deino thing

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i just knew they could grow to hyper size

tribal trench
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well it's gonna be a thing so

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unless they scrap it

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if they scrap it i riot

nocturne cosmos
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Unless they make legendary into the hypo size

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And if deino was to get a hypo size bigger then legendary

tribal trench
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legendary deino is as long as hypo spino

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so like .3.

nocturne cosmos
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If it stays

icy onyx
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Probably just as strong or Stronger than a Hypo.

tribal trench
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so it'd SLAUGHTER a neuro.

icy onyx
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Probably.

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But then again.

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Neuro has special abilities Deino doesn't.

nocturne cosmos
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Never know deino

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May get its own neuro

static crater
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gr0ss

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wait

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this is theories

nocturne cosmos
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Yeah

static crater
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wtf is this doing in theories

nocturne cosmos
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Well back to theories then

buoyant heart
slow delta
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OH FUCK

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v3?

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crazy tribals

buoyant heart
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also some ruins are here as well

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o-o

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and of course the giant ass ribs

icy onyx
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I hope you realize thats a cannibal

slow delta
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i meant tribals made it lol

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cause i doubt cannibals themselves made that

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and arent the tribals the ones who turned to worship?

buoyant heart
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also I feel verrry unsafe here

icy onyx
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?

buoyant heart
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something about this place does not feel right, its an unfinished section of the map but there are things here that make it seem like you shouldn't be here

icy onyx
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I mean that giant rib should be terrifying enough and a cannibal statue ?

buoyant heart
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there were more

slow delta
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more?

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i havent seen, can you dm them to me?

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or post them here

crisp ermine
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i think atrium B was originaly PC

buoyant heart
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well im far away now and Im about to die but if i come across them again ill take some screen shots

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there were about 5 more

crisp ermine
buoyant heart
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where did you get that?

crisp ermine
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Its in one of the pc maps

ancient spindle
slow delta
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it should be

ancient spindle
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If it’s Primal Carnage

slow delta
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we're trying to analyze the connection again

crisp ermine
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They were talking about atrium b

slow delta
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and atrium B is part of the isle theory lore

ancient spindle
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Didn’t Dondi say there wasn’t a connection

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Like 10 times

icy onyx
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We have no ties to PC, All they are easter eggs.

slow delta
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yeah

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but at the same time

ancient spindle
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It just nods to the games

slow delta
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there's way too much stuff

ancient spindle
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Nothing lore related

slow delta
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neuros

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are in atrium B

crisp ermine
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They were originaly planing to have a conection

icy onyx
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Were

ancient spindle
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Keyword originally

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And were

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And it didn’t happen

icy onyx
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Its not anymore.

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And not important.

ancient spindle
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I doubt there’s any story ties between PC and The Isle

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Because you know

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Dondi said there weren’t

slow delta
icy onyx
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All there are for PC and The Isle are Easter Eggs if they are connected its just a neat thing thats all.

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Our Atriums are better.

slow delta
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neuros under atrium B

icy onyx
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Yeah.

ancient spindle
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Cool.

slow delta
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and if we have atrium C

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we might see atrium B

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but atrium B is also mentioned to have aquatics

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much like the pce one

ancient spindle
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Cool.

icy onyx
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No doubt We'll see all the atriums..

ancient spindle
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Damn. Having the games being connected could’ve been cool as fuck though

slow delta
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oh i forgot about this

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magnas are having their water abilities tested in atrium b as well

ancient spindle
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Ok.

slow delta
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actually

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atrium B isnt stated to contain any aquatic creatures at this point

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but it is for water testing

ancient spindle
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So

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Your point

slow delta
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well my original point is that the atrium at v3 is C

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cause its not aquatic

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so we might see hypers once v3 is done

crisp ermine
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Atrium B :aquatic specimen study and developement (from the stream in july 2017)

ancient spindle
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I mean we still don’t know what is gonna be inside the atrium

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Like we’ve only seen the dome

slow delta
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well it has trees and water inside it now

ancient spindle
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Yes but I doubt it’s just going to be a metal cage set on top of grass and dirt

slow delta
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oh yeah

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its still wip

ancient spindle
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It’s literally just the metal cage

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So we don’t know what it’s for. And can’t really derive anything from how it looks

slow delta
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yeah true

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but surely we can say that that atrium in v3 is not atrium b

ancient spindle
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No

slow delta
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why not

turbid escarp
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It’s possible to see the hypos once v3 is release specially when it was stated that everything in AE-001 is going to be moved to v3 and hypos where going to be release when AE-001 was released

slow delta
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yeah and remember, v3 is where we originally saw hypers

turbid escarp
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And also it’s very curious to see dondi working on the hypo Utah and hypo carno and at the same time working on v3

slow delta
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mhm maybe

tiny scaffold
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if you look at the log in menu you can see blood at the bottom left side of the terminal

supple dome
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okay new menu and new lights are flashing wtf

tribal trench
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We know

buoyant heart
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wait what

viscid saddle
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Cleaned up a li'l bit here.

placid harness
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Do you guys remember when the bioluminescence for the Neuro Spino was teased in announcements?

sharp frigate
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mhm

placid harness
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It said "Paging Dr. Whyse". Is that some sort of vague reference to the hospital code "Paging Dr. Strong"?

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Maybe Dr. Whyse is a real person but it would make sense if it was a reference to that.

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Quoting the chpso.org page on confusing hospital codes (http://www.chpso.org/post/paging-dr-strong-other-confusing-hospital-emergency-codes), "Some facilities use that code to call in the security guards to deal with misbehaving patients or visitors. Code Silver in one hospital may refer to “missing person” and in another “somebody with a gun.” These codes might be standardized across a hospital or a hospital system, but there is little standardization across regions or states. Some hospitals list the dozen or so codes on the back of staff identification cards, but those too, vary from hospital to hospital."

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So perhaps we could at least deduce some story behind the Neuro Spino being teased and its appearance ingame (if that could count as some canon event).

slow delta
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hmm

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i wonder what raven wanted to type

tiny carbon
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Working on it, the first part didn't copy so I'll have to retpye that

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Got a theory for logging on and advancing clearance levels

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A brainchild

slow delta
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cool

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let's hear it

last nebula
echo gazelle
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sparked someone's interest

unique current
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Lol

slow delta
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i want to make a timeline of the events with the order i think occured

placid harness
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Before you share the theory on logging on

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Do we have any idea what could happen if multiple users were to successfully login?

unique current
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@slow delta probably a good idea

slow delta
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the only thing troubling me is how canon some stuff is but ill try my best

placid harness
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It wouldn't hurt to at least keep tabs on the questionably canon things.

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Keep em in the back of your pockets for later if needed.

slow delta
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yeah cause i pieced a little bit of the alfie lore yesterday looking back at the older stuff

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inb4 alfie has no significance to the story whatsoever

placid harness
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Well as far as we know he wasn't recovered.

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I think its safe to assume that at one point there was a military or some sort of sufficiently armed presence on the island

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Considering there are references to government officials at an executive helipad.

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Who knows if they ever did anything about the giant bulletproof Quetz.

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Maybe it got away. Maybe it flew off the range of islands, or simply to a different one in the same chain.

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Could've gotten shot down and recovered, or just died peacefully.

naive mountain
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One of the loading screens says he is MIA

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So i guess he is chilling somewhere

slow delta
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yeah

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hopefully

tribal trench
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Or

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It starved.

tiny carbon
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Ok, my theory is pretty much a list so get ready

tribal trench
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Since it's a hypo.

naive mountain
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I'm ready

placid harness
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I'm also ready

tiny carbon
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Theory: I believe that Clearance Levels are tied to the Product Version (build) of the game you have, though this has one one really major hole that I can see, I think that I'm close to something, even if I'm not looking the right way, I still feel like I'm walking the right direction here.

Why I believe this: If you navigate to your TheIsle.exe file, right click, hit properties, and find the Details pane, you'll see a list of information about the executable appear. In this list are the words "Product version" followed by the version. Currently, mine reads as: "++UE4+Release-4.19-CL-0"
What I'm curious about is what that CL stands for. I think that the CL stands for Clearance Level, and the 0 following is my clearance level. This would make sense considering that I have no more special access to anything than mostly all of you do. What I'm thinking, is that there is a way to get a different build of the game that has higher clearance levels, with different levels of functionality and content in each.
I've also checked TheIsle.log file, and found that the Build the game starts in is the Product Version listed in that details pane.

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Think about it: The easiest way to deny functionality or content is to not include it, either because it isn't ready or because you don't want people to get to it. If it's removed, there's no way for people to somehow "accidentally" get to it. So, if you want certain people to access that feature, then you give them the version that has that functionality. So, you give them a Product version that has a higher clearance level in this case. This allows the devs to either carefully distribute, or heavily monitor, when this build gets accessed. Dondi has stated that people have come close to logging in before. And they became aware when someone did. I think they are aware of this knowledge because I'm pretty sure they are able to see which builds of the game has been downloaded and how many times. I can't think of anything that could somehow notify the devs when someone is getting close to logging in. I'm sure some kind of notification or flag could be set off when they actually log in, but as for getting close, I'm not so sure.

How do I think this is done?: I think it's done through the Isle's beta tabs using a beta key. We already know that there are exclusive betas of the game not currently available to the public. An example of this is the video Anth did over the "Experimental" branch that we need a beta key in order to access it.

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What I've tried: This also explains why I think it's linked to the betas: I've literally tried changing just the product number through Visual Studios to see if it would trigger some kind of change in starting up that could allow me to log in, and changing it from 0 to 10 didn't do a thing for me. Now, I've tried several different codes in the Beta Keys section of the Isle Properties through steam, but I haven't gotten any of them to work, and I've tried pretty much Everything, and have gotten nowhere. But, we do know that there are other builds of the game for sure that requires beta keys in order to be accessed, such as Anth's Experimental build that he got his hands on. So there are hidden builds that we do not know about, and I'm willing to bet that different builds for different Clearance Levels exist, I'm just not sure how to access them.

The Loophole: I don't see how you could have different builds of the game still connect to different build servers. It would be difficult making this work in a way that granted some users more content than others, though this could have been worked around, and may only affect actually joining servers, I'm not too sure.

This is pretty much all I've worked on for the last hour. Thoughts and opinions, tag me because I'll probably miss it.

Attached is a screenshot of my TheIsle.log with the build version highlighted, and the properties page of TheIsle.exe showing the product version.

slow delta
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interesting

placid harness
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I really like that theory.

slow delta
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but cl might stand for change log

placid harness
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Some people just might never be able to login soley due to their unique product item.

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What if you have to set a specific launch option in the properties in your steam library?

tiny carbon
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I don't think cl stands for changelog, as I don't see hwo that could be connected with a Product Version like that

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And I've tried messing with that several different times as well, all to no avail. I think it's product version connected, and you need a specific build of the game, or something else in order to get it to work

slow delta
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hmm

placid harness
slow delta
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well if there are different builds for logging in i dont think they would need to even be connected to the build servers

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supposed these builds arent for playing

tiny carbon
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I don't think they would be able to do that since I think the goal is for everyone to eventually login, but I'm not entirely sure

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And I've looked literally Everywhere for a code

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I've checked everything on Tat's website, looked through all the transmissions, and have gotten zip out of it

placid harness
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I don't know if they'd want everyone to log in. I just feel like something bad will happen if multiple people do.

tribal trench
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What if it's some of the hex? Or something along the lines

cinder hound
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There's a hint of a code in the "death-screen"

tiny carbon
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I've checked there too, even recorded a clip of it

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There is a password in there

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But it's all *****'s

tribal trench
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đŸ€”

tiny carbon
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7 digits of *'s I'm counting

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Anyways, I've tried probably a hundred different combinations of different codes, formats, etc... and I've not gotten anywhere with it, but I still think I'm on generally the right track if others want to follow that line of thinking

placid harness
slow delta
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think so

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its artwork so you could probably find it online

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however i think i got another puzzle piece

placid harness
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Can't find anything on Tapwings deviantart.

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lay it on us

tribal trench
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Yes I think that's neuro spino

placid harness
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Looks huge.

slow delta
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User Inquiry: Phoenix.
Operation Inferno was a success.
Phoenix assets are required.
Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
Replicating.
Inquiry: Nova
Designate Novaraptor.
Status: Replicating
User Inquiry: Atrium C Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.

In this list Alfie is number 3 of the phoenix assets. Alfie's biological study code in the loading screens is BLS-003. Given that a biological study of utahraptors is coded as 2048 while magna's water endurance is 045, maybe we can speculate that magnas came into the picture quite early lorewise

tribal trench
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Neuro or hypo

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We see utahs (apparently magna raptors) in a hypo quetz artwork though iirc

gloomy wave
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It's definitely hypo spino

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split jaw and everything

unique current
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Curious đŸ€”

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Anyone have a ss of the death screen?

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Also.... the screen shot of the spino above, taken from the loading screen?

icy onyx
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When loading into the Isle it can be seen.

unique current
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Thought so, thanks

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Hey sprinkle... I'm gonna dm you

slow delta
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Phoenix assets are required.

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shouldnt this say acquired?

unique current
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Depends

slow delta
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while working on the alfie timeline maybe it would be a good time to watch meaty's video

unique current
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Iol

slow delta
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Project Alphonse: The creation of the first Quetzalcoatlus.
Created by Drive, Chance.
Moniker Alfie has been adopted.
Status: Active

User Inquiry: Replicate Alphonse
Status: Pending
Generating

Generating

Status: Failed
Check Atrium C Containment.

Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova

There are four subjects in association with Operation Inferno:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova

User Inquiry: Atrium C
Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.

AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS

ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.

AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS

TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES H
AVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.

AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C

TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.

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this is all the info i found on alfie and atrium c

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-Hypendocrin Alfie was contained in Atrium C originally, however it managed to escape killing tens of staff members. This resulted in: 
        -Halting the development of Hyperendocrin pterosaurs
        -The neutralization of all pterosaur assets after the final studies were concluded
        -The readjustment of Atrium C for the housing of terrestrial Hyperendocrins
-Notes: Most stuff about Alfie before the Apollo Engineering stuff, is heavily connected to PCE lore which may be non-canon/easter eggs with no significant value to The Isle lore.
       -Alfie was the first Quetzalcoatlus and the first Hyperendocrin Quetzalcoatlus specimen.
        -Before becoming a Hyperendocrin, Alfie was housed in the original Atrium C from which he escaped during the PCE part of the lore.
        -Operation Inferno is the acquiring of Phoenix corp assets and the destruction of leftover assets and facilities. The original Atrium C was destroyed in Operation Inferno.
         -The new Atrium C is mentioned to be moved to Island Three and is possibly the Atrium where Hyper Alfie escapes from and is later used for housing the terrestrial Hypers.
-It is also mentioned that Hyperendocrin specimens suffer from volatile effects and because of these only Tyrannosaurus,Giganotosaurus,Spinosaurus and Utahraptor specimens may be chosen. (Carnotaurus isn't mentioned either by accident or because these loading screens are outdated/non-cannon at this point). Maybe Hyperendocrin Pterosaurs suffer heavily from these volatile effects, which is why their development and study termination was deemed necessary. It is also a possible cause for Alfie's escape.
-Alfie is still Missing in Action, possibly the only (Hyper) Quetzalcoatlus specimen still alive.```
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and here is my compilation of it

tribal trench
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👍

earnest glade
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Fuck me

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You guys have been working damn hard hahaha

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@tiny carbon That is a really solid theory. I'm willing to back you on that.

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Also @slow delta I like the idea of Magna's coming into the picture early. I know they're said to be the most perfected state of a dinosaur (or something along those lines) but what if they where a base for the strains themselves?

tribal trench
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^theyre a perfected hypo.

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Well, refined.

icy onyx
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Iirc someone in this channel theorized that magna was designed to correct the Hyper's major fault: The extreme hunger

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dondi replied with a 👍 to that

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closest thing to a confirmation we have

earnest glade
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Ah got ya. Sorry I'm not entirely scrubbed up on everything

supple dome
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Anyone remember that mention of the matriarch in the loading screens?

slow delta
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Yeah but it wasnt anything solod

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Solid

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It just said she was the matriarch and nobody would take her children

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Doesnt even have to be THE matriarch

crisp ermine
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If you read tapwings fanart it says that it has high regeneration

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But its fanart

icy onyx
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Not completely.

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It could be canon.

crisp ermine
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Tapwings matriarch reminds me of a xenomorph like how it looks like it uses dna of other animals to adapt itself

supple dome
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its just that in the loading screen that mentions the matriarch it also mentions her offspring...

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which is what

crisp ermine
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Well now that i think about it, strains cant have offspring

earnest glade
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I think personally there was some strange stuff going on on the island from day one. For example the rumours of the island walkers. I think maybe the matriarch species was already on the island, but maybe it was only in early stages of its evolution

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Do we know that for sure? @crisp ermine

crisp ermine
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I think that has been confirmed

earnest glade
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Oh right, interesting

crisp ermine
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Not 100% sure

half sinew
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Strains are sterile

earnest glade
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Would make a lot of sense if they weren't able to

half sinew
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but, we don't know if Magna or the Matriarch are considered strains

earnest glade
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That's a good point. Never thought ofd that before ^^

crisp ermine
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I believe magna isnt considerd a strain (not sure tho)

weak nexus
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It's the perfected version of the hypo (a killer but won't starve to death, which is why it's smaller)

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So yes, it should be a strain.

naive mountain
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Has it been explicitly stated as such?

icy onyx
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More or less.

naive mountain
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Okay

fossil lily
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I am sure Magna is considered a strain

tacit plank
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It's not.

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For whatever reason.

coral sequoia
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I don’t remember it ever being called a strain by a credible source

smoky cosmos
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I mean its referred to as type-m

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the same as the others

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and magna type was created

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so strain

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I have a video on this somewhere, cant remember where I talked about it in more detail though

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as for the matriarch I have no idea, I wouldnt think its a strain as it was one creature made to basically be better than everything else

coral bronze
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Yeah
But why are they making dinosaurs and constantly-evolving organisms?

fossil lily
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Apollo Engineering probably had some Military ideas to use the Dinos with

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Few of Todays current animals could stand up to alot of the Dinosaurs that existed

leaden nexus
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See ya could do that

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or make robots

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sure robots could be hacked

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but at least those can be controlled

tribal trench
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neuro spino has emp to use against robots though :v

pallid junco
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I don’t think that’s quite right, simply for the fact that the logo or whatever you call it for Apollo Engineering is “we succeed where nature fails” implying that they’re either A. Creating organisms for military use or B. Tampering with nature to create the perfect organism for nothing more than science (which has kind of been implied throughout a lot of thing we’ve seen in the lore)

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Just my thoughts, even though it doesn’t really get us anywhere :/

crisp ermine
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The goal is the creation of the perfect organism

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I dont think its for military

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Why does everyone keep thinking that its for military use?

tiny carbon
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Probably the sheer killing ability of all the strains. They're all designed to kill in some sort of way, and they've been made masters of killing that way. Why make a creature that has the power to destroy you in a second unless it's meant for that?

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Otherwise, it would just be a dumb risk

coral bronze
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Why would they make a strain that can disable electronics and another that can withstand heavy artillery?

tiny carbon
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Will someone with good internet test something for me really fast?

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My game is doing something but I'm not sure what it is and I think I've connected it to this

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Could just be my bad internet

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but I want to make sure

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So literally anyone with a connection pls

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wait maybe not

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hold on

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Yeah nevermind I think I'm not doing anything special

crisp ermine
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So they try to create the perfect organism and then use it for military purpose?

tiny carbon
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From how I understand it the main creator of this place or the person behind all/most of this lost someone important and is trying to get them back, toying with the idea of transferring consciousness from one being to another, etc... and he may be trying to create the perfect organism physically for their consciousness to inhabit? sounds reasonable enough to me

crisp ermine
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Can the hypo withstand heavy artillery

tiny carbon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I guess it could

crisp ermine
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It has heavy armor but not that strong

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If rexes can damage it the artiliry can to

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*then

dusk axle
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maybe military purpuses but i think the objective is to test on creatures first, and then humans, to create some sort of super soldier, also what if the strains are not made by humans, but are derivatives from the matriarch, wich could be a specific creature injected with a substance exctracted and formulated based on the remains of what i would call "the first ones"?

tiny carbon
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I mean theoretically speaking its hide has to be about as solid as rock and probably quite decently thick, gameplay wise a rex kinda has to damage it or it would be completely unfair, and for all we know nothing except heavy artilary will be able to hurt it later on as the game progresses. Lore-wise, it doesn't make a lot of sense for teeth to pierce that

crisp ermine
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That last part i like

tiny carbon
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but I have no idea

crisp ermine
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My reaction was a second to late

dusk axle
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i mean the Hypo is not entirely cover with armor, if a rex bites anywere except the back or head i think it can pirce, what he meant maybe was that a heavy arty shell would have problems to pirce but still would cause kinetic damage and splash

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also you dont wanna make a Hypo Rex a type 5 heavy

coral bronze
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Didn't they have to make like anti-hypo weapons?

crisp ermine
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Yes

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But you cant face a tank with an m16

vernal crag
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All we have seen are the unfinished Hyperendocrins. Nowhere has it solidly been said to my knowledge that a rex would be able to inflict any form of Physical damage on a Hyperendocrin.

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For all we know, they are untouchable. I mean, the only thing we know that can kill a Hyperendocrin Strain would be a Magna Strain, which we happen to know little of, aside from they are supposed to be a perfected life form.

slow delta
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In game rexes can kill hypers

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So probably all top tier carnivores and strains can kill other strains

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Oh and pues

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So i dont think strains are for military use

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Animals arent viable when you have drones artillery etc

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Perhaps its more of a mad scientists scenario

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See how far science can go without morals or hesitation

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Since they have been doing human experimentation too

turbid escarp
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I don’t see a hypo being able for military use because then why would they want it too have such a large amount of hunger giving it a very short lifespam?

slow delta
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Yeah and it doesnt make sense to waste millions on research and development for using them to destroy ecosystems when you can just bomb the place

leaden nexus
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there could some global event going on that's making them research what they are doing, we don't really know a whole lot of the isle's world outside of the dinosaurs and AE

crisp ermine
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Im not sure if i remember this right or if its stil accurate but i remember hearing long ago that Phoenix corp and AE were in some sort of competition (or they were just enemies idk)

slow delta
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We dont know if phoenix is still canon rho

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Tho

coarse sonnet
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There is Phoenix corp. logo in the new intro

crisp ermine
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Yeah

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But Phoenix corp is also PCE

naive mountain
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It's the caduceus

coarse sonnet
icy onyx
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..

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One sec

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Welcome to The Isle.We succeed where nature fails.Death is only the beginning.

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That was a section of Binary when loading in to Game.

naive mountain
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The caduceus (☀; ; Latin cādĆ«ceus, from Greek ÎșηρύÎșΔÎčÎżÎœ kērĆ«Ìkeion "herald's wand, or staff") is the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology and consequently by Hermes Trismegistus in Greco-Egyptian mythology. The same staff was also borne by heralds in gen...

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I can see the similarities

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Where did you get that Phoenix logo from?

icy onyx
naive mountain
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I could see it being used as a nod to Phoenix without actually using the logo

tribal trench
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it's caduceus staff imo.

naive mountain
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Aye

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Fits with the Greek mythology too

tribal trench
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yep

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oo

naive mountain
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?

tribal trench
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dino 👆 your message, which means he agrees 👀

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so yea it doesn't have anything to do with phoenix

naive mountain
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Oh cool

slow delta
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now if we could get a confirmation on alfie's past

slow delta
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oh

cinder hound
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Any other shared ideas?

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Well, ones we know of, at least.

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Ah, was just wondering.

slow delta
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alfie

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o h

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well rip my whole atrium C theory

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i see

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rest in piece hyper alfie

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oh let me repost it

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-Alfie was the third designated asset acquired by Phoenix Corp during Operation Inferno. In the Apollo Engineering loading screens, the biological study referring to Alfie is designated as AE-BLS-003. Possible connection between the 2 threes?
-Hypendocrin Alfie was contained in Atrium C originally, however it managed to escape killing tens of staff members. This resulted in:
-Halting the development of Hyperendocrin pterosaurs
-The neutralization of all pterosaur assets after the final studies were concluded
-The readjustment of Atrium C for the housing of terrestrial Hyperendocrins
-Notes: Most stuff about Alfie before the Apollo Engineering stuff, is heavily connected to PCE lore which may be non-canon/easter eggs with no significant value to The Isle lore.
-Alfie was the first Quetzalcoatlus and the first Hyperendocrin Quetzalcoatlus specimen.
-Before becoming a Hyperendocrin, Alfie was housed in the original Atrium C from which he escaped during the PCE part of the lore.
-Operation Inferno is the acquiring of Phoenix corp assets and the destruction of leftover assets and facilities. The original Atrium C was destroyed in Operation Inferno.
-The new Atrium C is mentioned to be moved to Island Three and is possibly the Atrium where Hyper Alfie escapes from and is later used for housing the terrestrial Hypers.
-It is also mentioned that Hyperendocrin specimens suffer from volatile effects and because of these only Tyrannosaurus,Giganotosaurus,Spinosaurus and Utahraptor specimens may be chosen. (Carnotaurus isn't mentioned either by accident or because these loading screens are outdated/non-cannon at this point). Maybe Hyperendocrin Pterosaurs suffer heavily from these volatile effects, which is why their development and study termination was deemed necessary. It is also a possible cause for Alfie's escape.
-Alfie is still Missing in Action, possibly the only (Hyper) Quetzalcoatlus specimen still alive.

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i made it using the first console stream and the loading screens as sources

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**here's the sources:
Project Alphonse: The creation of the first Quetzalcoatlus.
Created by Drive, Chance.
Moniker Alfie has been adopted.
Status: Active

User Inquiry: Replicate Alphonse
Status: Pending
Generating

Generating

Status: Failed
Check Atrium C Containment.

Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova

There are four subjects in association with Operation Inferno:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova

User Inquiry: Atrium C
Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.

AE-BLS-003
QUETZALCOATLUS

ALL QUETZALCOATLUS BIOLOGICAL ASSETS HAVE BEEN DEEMED (6 LETTERS) BY (6 LETTERS) SINCE TYPE-H ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) ATRIUM BREACH. ALL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED AND ASSETS NEUTRALIZED UNTIL A LATER DATE. ATRIUM C TO BE REPURPOSED FOR TERRESTRIAL TYPE-H SPECIMENS ONLY. DO NOT REPLICATE.

AE-AES-100
TYPE-H SPECIMENS

TYPE-H ASSET STUDY HAS BEEN MOVED FROM (6 LETTERS) TO ATRIUM C. ALL ASSETS SHOW INCREASED BONE DENSITY AND TISSUE GROWTH. DUE TO THE VOLATILE EFFECTS SINCE (5 LETTERS), STUDIES H
AVE BEEN SECLUDED TO TYRANNOSAURUS,GIGANOTOSAURUS,SPINOSAURS, AND UTAHRAPTOR SPECIMENS. QUETZALCOATLUS STUDY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED SINCE (9 LETTERS). CODE ALFIE-(6 LETTERS) IS STILL MIA.

AE-IPS-002
ATRIUM C

TYPE-H BIOLOGICAL ASSET STUDY IS TO BE MOVED TO ATRIUM C. CLEARANCE LEVEL HAS SUMMARILY ELEVATED TO LEVEL 4 SINCE THE INCIDENT INVOLVING (11 LETTERS). DIRECTOR (5 LETTERS) HAS HALTED ALL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY AND ALL TYPE-H PTEROSAURIA STUDIES SINCE THE LOSS OF (2 LETTERS) PERSONNEL. ATRIUM HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING ADJUSTED.**

vital tree
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I think the reason the hypo carno wasn’t mentioned is because it was under code name: HADES

slow delta
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seems weird not to include it in a report when you include other species

slow delta
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it may have just been skipped due to the size limit of the text

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i have a little theory on atrium B too but its less fancy than C's

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Well the original Atrium B in pce was for aquatic research and development and well it gets destroyed in Operation Inferno. AE remakes a new Atrium B for the same purpose. However since they haven't developped any aquatic creatures yet it was being used as a water endurance test facility for terrestrial strains (source: AE-BLS-045 WATER ENDURANCE loading screen). Now in my headcannon the neuros and tissos get created after the creation of the magna and perfection of the hyper strain so further perfections for those neuros and tissos aren't needed. For some reason a contamination of type-n material happens and the final studies are concluded underneath atrium B for an unknown reason.

**loading screen sources:
AE-AES-1073
TYPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.

AE-BLS-045
WATER ENDURANCE

ALL CASE STUDIES AS OF (10 LETTERS)-2014 HAVE SHOWN THAT ALL GEN-1 SPECIES CANNOT TREAD WATER FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. DUE TO SIZE ISSUES OF NEWEST TYPE-M SPECIMENS, ALL FURTHER AQUATIC BIOLOGICAL STUDIES WILL MOVED TO ATRIUM B (POD 4) UNTIL THE BAY LOCKE IS FINISHED DEVELOPMENT. REPORT ALL ENDURANCE TIMINGS TO DR. (10 LETTERS).**

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i really enjoyed looking back on the older lore pieces and trying to piece a puzzle but the problem is most of this stuff might be non-cannon/irrelevant/outdated at this point

edgy pike
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I thought Magna was developed after the H T N trio

slow delta
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i dont think we've had anything official and im just going with what we've seen in game or what is more realistic

edgy pike
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Are there dates on the loading screens for the strain info?

slow delta
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the only date so far is the water endurance one in which we see magnas existing already in 2014

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the first generation of magnas that is

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however it mentions the size issues of the newest type-m specimens

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so maybe there are older magnas even earlier

edgy pike
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I guess we don't know yet if the chronology is already pre-decided or based on when they were actually added into the game

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because it seemed to be going both ways

slow delta
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my headcannon is that AE develops hypers and then try to perfect the strain before moving on to the more advanced ones (neuro and tisso for which they may have done earlier human experiments but not produced any dinos yet)

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true

crisp ermine
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Possible

quiet ore
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You know, does anyone know if the binary on the loading screen has changed since it's been added?

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I translated it when it was first added

slow delta
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one of us translated it a few days ago when it became all visible

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but idk if this update did anything

quiet ore
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Does it still say "The Isle" over and over?

slow delta
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no

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check the pinned doc

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it has all the stuff we worked on the past days and it has that too

quiet ore
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Thanks. Interesting to through developments, since I haven't been paying attention since last year.

slow delta
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yeah its understandable

quiet ore
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Also, just a thought about the message of "You are being controlled" appearing in the radio tower morse code

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Considering that one would assume any morse code from that is meant for humans to hear, do you think that it might be referring to the whole "profile" situation?

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I mean, it could also be meant for the profiles, but I don't think that'd make sense, unless I missed something.

slow delta
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im not sure myself

fossil lily
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Damn I don't check this chat for like an hour or two I miss out on THeory time with Dondi

fossil lily
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đŸ€”

slow delta
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Oh ok

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When we have something like hyper alfie who is mentioned in the loading screens but also related to pce, is it considered canon/part of the lore?

edgy pike
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There wasn't any mention of a hyperendocrine Quetz in PC:E

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Just plain old normal Alfie the normal Quetz

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Well actually PC:E Alfie had genetically reduced muscles/tendons and respiratory system so he couldn't fly as long (and therefore not leave the island)

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PC:E Alfie was a weak ass beta male with asthma

blazing lynx
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OKay

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Is the isle a computer program or an actual place?

naive mountain
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An actual place I'd imagine

ebon basalt
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Why not both?

crisp ermine
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Why would you think its an computer program?

fossil lily
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We know that the Radio Tower on Thenyaw is Transmitting the question is where it is transmitting from

ancient spindle
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Lmao how many times does the PC connection need to be denied

dusk axle
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many times

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stl what bugs me is the relationship between phoenix and Apollo,

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are they competitors or subcompanies

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like while phoenix "We Succeed Where Nature Fails" i belive is in the evolutive part of the dinosaurs as they are, while Apollo Engienering does the N,H,T,M research apart

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or maybe phoneix specializes in the biological aspect of the isle and the stability of it, while as the name suggests, AE enfacices in engienering, maybe not entirely genetic but pure engienering.

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while Phonex does the dino related research, AE takes executive decitions and if you see in the transcripts, the way the moce from atrium to atrium different creatures and how they make analysis on their characteristics and consequences, sounds like they are some sort of industrial ingeniers that monitor proces and quality assurance, also they take the decitions on what to do with what, and so on, but thats just ma opinion

static crater
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PCE and TI aren't connected

dusk axle
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we already know Shrimp

static crater
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Then why are you connecting Apollo and Phoenix...

quiet ore
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Because just because they share a name doesn't mean they're the same?

pallid junco
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They may have changed the name of that company after the whole pc:e thing didn’t go through

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Seeing as how we never hear that name mentioned outright since the beginning of the lore stuffs being introduced

quiet ore
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Phoenix assets

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This was during one of the biggest lore events we had.

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Of course, it doesn't mention a Phoenix corp

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It could refer to a number of things.

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Heck, Phoenix assets could imply the nature of replication instead, being like a "Phoenix" and coming to life after death

dusk axle
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doesnt make much sence but anyway

tiny carbon
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Or is set to be instantly replicated on the event of there isn't being any new information sent to the system (died)?

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I still think Phoenix Assets just means that Phoenix Corp property, but that could be something else

dull falcon
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Assets are the dinosaurs themselves. A combination of a profile and a host. A Phoenix asset is basically a dinosaur owned by them (example: the Magnatyrannus) Phoenix Corp is canon, I believe, but it’s not connected to the PC in Primal Carnage. Just some clarification for you guys (I think everything I said is correct?)

quiet ore
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I don't believe we know what an "asset" entails

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We are profiles

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It referred to our steam profiles during Terminal time

tiny carbon
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Sounds about right tater

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Yeah, we're the profiles

quiet ore
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I think an asset is just what's necessary to put a living being together

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But the profile is seperate

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We come in after

tiny carbon
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I don't believe so. Completely. An Asset is something that you own. Something that has value to you. Going by the Bing definition:
1: a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality.
2: property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies.
3: military equipment, such as planes, ships, communications and radar installations, employed or targeted in military operations.

So I think that assets is referring to all the equipment, the dinosaurs, the islands, and the information (profiles, EIP's, etc...)

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Everything that they "legally" own

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or claim ownership of anyways

quiet ore
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I believe it could be used in either sense

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For example, Operation Inferno got the assets for the 4 creatures.

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Notice the assets mentioned only refer to the creatures

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So it appears in this sense, property was left out of it

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What I also find interesting is that the Atriums were replicated.

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Or rather, Atrium B is being replicated

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And Atrium C is being moved

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Important distinction, or just wording? Who knows.

dull falcon
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If you look at some of the loading screens they refer to assets as individual creatures, not just a species or strain as a whole ( look at type-h specimens loading screen ) Every creature has a profile in it.

tiny carbon
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I think a better wording is every creature is supposed to eventually have a profile in it. I don't think profiles are introduced straight at the beginning of the replication process, I think it waits until they're more developed, or "At the point they need to be". So, it could be that some of the assets indie is referencing don't have profiles introduced yet, which could be why all these breakouts, accidents, and general unpredictable behavior are happening

unique current
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Hmmm.... prepare for a bumpy ride? đŸ€”

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Tectonic shift, eruption or massive tsunami...

fossil lily
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Earthquakes are usually the causes of some other disasters

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Eruptions could lead to a scorched landscape

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Tsunami could lead to a flood

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If it is a eruption though Thenyaw is the only map atm with a volcano if I am right

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If it is a eruption though Thenyaw is the only map atm with a volcano if I am right

slow delta
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hm

unique current
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Yup, that we know of

slow delta
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thing is

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thenyaw is very small as an island

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an eruption would probably decimate its entire ecosystem if not make it inhabitable completely

unique current
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Very true depending on the size and type of eruption

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But that's only one way to have seismic activity

slow delta
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yeah

unique current
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Not sure if anyone has caught this or it's old news but....
WIND VELOCITY: NORMAL
WATER SALINITY: NORMAL
PRECIPITATION: NORMAL
SEISMIC ACTIVITY: PROBLEM

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Like I stated above... prepare for a possible bumpy ride.. whether it be caused by the volcano, a tsunami, or simply some one or thing disturbing the measuring equipment.

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I could be wrong but, I think this coincides with the 23rd...

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Peculiar formationđŸ€”

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PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.

IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD.

IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.

icy onyx
unique current
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Nice touch, thanks @icy onyx

icy onyx
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No problem.

unique current
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I'd definitely keep an open ear and eyes on anything "emerging" from areas like that cave not to mention known high activity locations

naive mountain
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Which map is that cave on? I haven't had much chance to explore yet

unique current
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Thenyaw

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There's two locations like that, the one above has boulders and other debris. It appears at least imo to be covering something

blazing lynx
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I'm hearing
Aquatic isle incoming

unique current
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Nah, but I get the feeling we're going to have more friends😉

naive mountain
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Phase 1 starts soon, interesting to see what is going to happen on the 23rd

sharp frigate
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I think Phase 1 has already started

icy onyx
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It has.

naive mountain
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Ah

unique current
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Yeah, I posted the entire thing to jog everyone's memory

fossil lily
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My guess is if this eruption happens

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It will bring new challenges to thenyaw hence the profiles needing to adapt

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Or it could bring the end of Thenyaw

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If the 23rd means Poseidon rises and gases emurges

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Earthquake could mean Poseidon rising hence earthquakes tend to cause tsunamis

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Hades may not have to do anything with the volcano

tribal trench
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hmhm, but hades is hypo carno?

fossil lily
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Hence Code Hades standing for the Hypo Carno

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And phantoms falling from the sky my guess is cannibals

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Many large changes at once will cause rapid adaptation

unique current
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I doubt cannibals would "fall" from the sky... however, a loot drop on the other hand.

fossil lily
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My theory is. July 23rd a Tsunami takes its toll on Thenyaw causing massive flooding. Hades emerges and a Hypo Carno AI being added or Hypo Carno being released. Phantoms will fall from the sky with the release of cannibals. If I recall as well I think cannibals could climb trees. So them being in the thick redwoods and being on top of the trees when they jump down it would seem like Phantoms were falling from the sky.

naive mountain
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What if the phantoms are the mercenaries parachuting in?

fossil lily
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Seems unlikely to me

blazing lynx
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i am going to cry if hypo carno is added when I am not here

fossil lily
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It specially describes this as Phantoms falling from the sky

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Mercenaries are people they are working for a purpose

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Cannibals are savage they mainly survive in primal instinct.

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In real life phantoms are sometimes what people call ghost. A ghost is a human who is dead but they also seem somewhat alive.

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Cannibals could have possibly once been humans

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Hence them being called phantoms

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Just a theory though

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We only have like 3 more days until the 23rd

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We better prepare ourselves cause my guess is we will have our hands full with lore shit

naive mountain
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Aye

slow delta
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where does the hyper carno being hades come from?

naive mountain
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I think the hyper carno is referred to as code Hades somewhere

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I'm not sure though

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I might be wrong

tiny carbon
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I don't see why the Hypo carno would be reffered to as Code Hades when none of the other strain dinos have been given such names, except for Hypo Rex's Thronebreaker

slow delta
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everybody says it is but i havent seen it anywhere

tiny carbon
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Even then, it's not given such a specific name

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More of a generic thing

naive mountain
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Yeah I've had a quick search and can't find anything

tribal trench
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it's from a picture dondi sent.

slow delta
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link

tribal trench
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when you put the saturation up or something, it showed the hypo carno's face and Hades in the background (in the trees)

slow delta
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thats all?

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do you have the pic?

tribal trench
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gonna try to find it.

tiny carbon
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I've seen the pic but never the saturated version

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And I think it may have the H-Carno in it, but I've never seen the Hades in the trees

tribal trench
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it was in the tree's openings, it spelled out "Hades"

slow delta
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:/

slow delta
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wont load

slow delta
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nvm

tribal trench
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^this one's the important one

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cause dondi says "Hades? Did someone say Hades?" and then sends the hypo carno

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so like

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the tree openings part is wrong on my part btw

slow delta
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....

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i dont see anything worthwhile

tiny carbon
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Do you think you could get everything that was above what he said

slow delta
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maybe he called it hades cause of the horns

tiny carbon
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so we can get some context on who said hades

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and what they were talking about

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pls

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Because if this is Code Hades

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Then I'm willing to bet that Poseidon is another strain animal

slow delta
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nobody said hades
they were talking about diablos i see

tiny carbon
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That's why I was asking for context

slow delta
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i dont see why a hyper carno would be so important

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ppl are looking way too deep into it

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and thats coming from me

icy onyx
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Oh.

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Well its part of Code Hades so.

slow delta
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code hades?

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sources

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?

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never heard of code hades

icy onyx
tiny carbon
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I honestly just think that Code Hades is an operation of sorts that could involve the Hypo-Carno (now factoring in context clues from Don's posts and pic), but I don't actually think that the carno is named Hades

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That post itself also lends me to believe this

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leads*

slow delta
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hades protocol

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ok

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so why is hyper carno related to this aside from 1 post dondi made

unique current
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Because from what I posted above

tiny carbon
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Honestly because if dondi says anything it should be taken pretty heavily

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as it's unlikely that he would straight up try to decieve us

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Especially since we're so lost

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"The rabbit hole is this way losers!" he shouts into the treeline as we stumble around with magnifying glasses looking at specs of dust

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I don't think that Hades is the H-Carno, but I think that it could involve the Carno. Taking dons post as a confirmation is wayyyy to straightforward compared to everything else he's given us, so I think there's much more to the Hades protocol than jus the carno. It's late for me. Goodnight 👋

fossil lily
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Hades Protocol could be part of phase one

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And everything that is happening in the 23rd could just be part of phase one and part of hades protocol

slow delta
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what if on the 23rd we get something completely unrelated to the lore pieces we've been looking at so far

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similar to how the magna reveal happened

fossil lily
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Idk

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All we can do is theorize

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We will have to wait and see

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đŸ€”

tribal trench
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well-

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it says released 23rd july, and it shows a picture of a cannibal

slow delta
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it could be a drawing

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maybe tribals?

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tribals worship cannibals and we saw a drawing of sorts and a statue in v3

tribal trench
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doesn't look like a drawing

slow delta
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it could be one

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everyone thinks its a live cannibal but then who survived to take the photo

unique current
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Either way I think they are close

tribal trench
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a camera

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lol.

unique current
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If I was to theorize I'd say something is happening with the volcano which those caves are tied into and possibly where something will emerge from...

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Since we got "teased"with cannibal/tribal...

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When the seismic activity occurs that's where the action will be...

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But that's just a thought, could be that something is messing with the measuring equipment which is why we see the seismic: problem..

slow delta
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i dont think it would make sense to have cannibals before tribals

unique current
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Why not at the same time 😾

fossil lily
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we do not know what was dead in the pic

coarse hare
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Indoraptor confirmed is a fake or not ?!

icy onyx
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No.

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Its Fake.

coarse hare
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Oh god thank

icy onyx
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You have the issue of copy right and also its a bad idea in general that creature was useless

coarse hare
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Yea we want to have hypo utah xD

slow delta
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:/

earnest glade
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The cannibal teaser was an illustration done by Tapwing. It must've been for the little teaser. I think maybe on the 23rd we might see a dev stream with cannibals. OR we're going to get a big ol' chunk of info about something. Whether it be the rrplicator, or Tartarus etc. Idk. I don't think any of us do hahaha.

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I can't confirm it was done by Tapwing, but it's extremely similar to her usual stuff

slow delta
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hmm

earnest glade
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Similar yeah. But I think her rendering skills have MASSIVELY improved since that

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Not that that's shit, because it ain't haha

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I think whatever we get, it's going to help is quite a bit with figuring various things out. Maybe it'll be a sort of key as to how we log in

slow delta
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i hope so

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i mean compared to all human classes, mers and tribals are pretty much done

twin vale
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they haven't even been started. most of what deathly did is invalid at this point so we'd probably have to scrap it when we get down to non-dinosaur classes, though i grant you they'll probably be a lot easier to get fully working than the dinos were.

slow delta
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oh i was referring to the fact that they were playable for a bit unlike cannibals

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but thats good to know

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i guess this means no humans on the 23rd

earnest glade
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Nah I didn't imagine so. I'd imagine you guys want to get everything as polished as possible with the Dino's etc. And then move onto humans

icy onyx
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hey guys has anyone cracked the morse code on the the isle menu yet? if not i gave it a try...

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i got APOLLO CORE ONLINE SYS CHK

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and then i got a number 148

slow delta
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i have already

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all 3 morses

icy onyx
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ahh gg man

slow delta
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but no 148

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i dont think thats right

icy onyx
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i got 1110 1000 i thought that was hexa decimal; 1110=14 and 1000=8 binary to decimal

slow delta
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thats not hex

icy onyx
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sry binary

slow delta
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the morse changes every time you launch the game

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you can get 3 versions

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text, hex and binary

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the only one i had trouble with was the hex one cause im missing a word

icy onyx
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k thx for the info im try to find the 3d one then...xD

slow delta
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good luck

icy onyx
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lol thx man

icy onyx
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hmm i get this crap with the hexa to ascii convertion: s at 50%STAT C8K Aurora snthes...loool

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for the 3d morse code

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what did u guys get for this code?i mean for the rly long morse code?

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with a lot of numbers and a few letters in it

fossil lily
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My guess is maybe the Auroras we see in the sky all the time are fake

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They are man-made Auroras

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Cause we do not know where these islands are in the world

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I don't think there is really any islands that are like these, and as diverse as these that are far enough north/south to see Auroras

slow delta
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yeah thats pretty much what i got too

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there's something wrong with the morse

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its not decrypting properly

icy onyx
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ah ok..thx for ur answers!<3

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thx buder for trying to make some sense out of the morse crap!xD

naive mountain
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is the green light in the top left hand corner flashing morse code?

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of the main menu

icy onyx
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-*

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++

icy onyx
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@naive mountain im not sure, i tried to decode it, but the lights werent bright enough and the signals werent clear enough for me to distinct properly. best thing to do, try it and let us know if ur successfull...xD

tribal trench
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oi u slaves get working there's a new patch dondiLUL

buoyant heart
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omgggg new patch...that means new info right....right?

sudden prawn
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The most that could’ve been changed is the morse code at the radio tower on thenyaw, but even then that’s very unlikely. Could be wrong though.

tiny carbon
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They said they removed the sounds from the core ambiance, so I'm willing to bet that it makes the morse easier to hear than anything

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Also

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Spectator mode near the top of the tower is wher the source sound of the morse is

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flying up there is the easiest way to haer it clearly

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hear*

twin vale
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cheater.

icy onyx
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I have to record it for 10 minutes the use a replay

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Then record that...

proper steppe
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Doesn't Khorne have a way to really quickly translate the morse now that the ambiance is gone?

slow delta
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You can decode it while its transmitting with programs but the quality wont be that great

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But yeah the ambiance thing is a biggie for us

slow delta
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wait wait wait

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Disconnected random sounds in core ambiences (creaks, birds, etc.) for now

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is that the ambient noise one

tribal trench
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Yes

woven nimbus
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@proper steppe yeah he seems to have some sort of program same with meaty

twin vale
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it's not like i removed the static from the radio transmission

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most of it is redwoods stuff, since there were sometimes 50 different sounds being used for the backing track in there.

icy onyx
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Oh, Well time to get to decoding if there is more morse code that what was actually decoded.

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Better safe than sorry

slow delta
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i would record it but my replays are borked :/

fossil lily
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I wonder if we will get a big stream on the 23rd or on the 22nd the day leading up to the 23rd

slow delta
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no idea

quiet ore
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So, did anyone consider with this tweet:

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That maybe that's referring to the auroras?

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I mean, I don't believe that the island(s) are near anywhere where it would occur naturally.

slow delta
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true however

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people have mentioned that they looked at the sky for hours

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i have an idea tho

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stare at the sky for 24 hours

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i wonder how big replays can get

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we could record the sky for 24 hours and speed it up in a video

fossil lily
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It says at the right time

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Could be on the 23rd

slow delta
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every time is the right time when its all day

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that tweet was made some time ago

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i doubt it would be referring to such a future event

fossil lily
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It is never said the thing was already in it

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Anything is possible

slow delta
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i think at a certain time, a certain north star becomes morse

quiet ore
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Perhaps try to go below where the auroras are?

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My thought was the auroras are caused by something, and aren't as they appear.

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Right now, we don't have a reason for them.

slow delta
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hmm

buoyant heart
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guys

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...

tribal trench
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...

hardy yarrow
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what be that

buoyant heart
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dunno

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but its something to think about

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o-o

severe lark
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New sucho roar

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Sounds a lot like it ybh

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Tbh

buoyant heart
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e.e

supple dome
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That's the magna rex's test roar

buoyant heart
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e.e

nimble cape
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Yeah definitely a magna

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If you turn it up really loud it sounds like a rex

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and he showed magna roars at another point in the stream as well

fossil lily
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Maybe another Strain? Could be Hypo Carno or Utah

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Maybe Another Neuro

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Or maybe they are working on Tissos

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Idk

icy onyx
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No.

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Pretty sure it was stated as Manga roars.

last nebula
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It's a magna rex test roar

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He literally said "here's the magna rex's test roar"

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It's unfinished

icy onyx
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Huh Wasn't there for stream but thought I heard that in a clip.

buoyant heart
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o

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e-e;

pallid junco
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yeah, it was stated in a separate clip than the "oops, you weren't supposed to hear that" one

carmine marsh
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but the magna rex test roar happened after the sound tease thing...

slow delta
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In the stream i notices a giant cannibal statue inside some rocks he was fiddling with

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In the large vertical cliffface

buoyant heart
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its there still just inside the rocks and used as a waterfall

slow delta
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Ah

buoyant heart
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;3

slow delta
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im in the radio tower