#isle-lore-theories

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icy onyx
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There was an update? When?
Also I think if anyone even want to log in he/she needs to think not too complicated as here. Look at the clues in transmissions guys..

tribal trench
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Just now

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They mightve hidden somethibg

icy onyx
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Ty Hati

fossil lily
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Meaty did say he may have a idea of what the I-1 and I-2 are. Like which Islands they are, for apparently in between them is The Gateway. So whenever Meaty is ready to tell us his theory I am all ears! 😃

hearty bramble
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same

dull falcon
icy onyx
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😱

dull falcon
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Can a moderator please pin that message and take down the old pinned site?

icy onyx
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thanku

sharp frigate
dull falcon
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Thank you!

icy onyx
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@dull falcon mobile version?

edgy pike
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It works on mobile

icy onyx
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cool

dull falcon
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I have not formatted the website to the mobile version yet, so there might be some wonky texts and placing on mobile.

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I highly suggest going through the entire website, even if you read through the whole old one. There's a TON of new stuff that's not in the old site

ebon basalt
dull falcon
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I'll add that when the Codes and Transmissions page is complete. I've been working on this for quite a long time now so I'm going to take a break until tomorrow lol

buoyant heart
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Wow the websote looks great!!

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Website*

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ewe

regal sundial
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Ey that's pretty gud

proper steppe
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Good job, taterfi

hearty bramble
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Love it Don4Luv

sharp frigate
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What was this again?

amber fox
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a dino strain that cant sleep

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keks dee

coarse sonnet
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Lol, what? Dinosaurs have human minds/consciousnesses/souls? Did I understand it right?

hearty mulch
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Ye

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But also dunno if anything ever came of I N S O M N U S

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Or if it meant anything other than dondi being a sleepless soul

cinder hound
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The Insominus Rex

raw olive
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No

cinder hound
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In all seriousness, I believe it's supposed to be relating to the latin word "Somnus"

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Which obviously means sleep

raw olive
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Everything has significance

regal sundial
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@coarse sonnet Profiles are human(?) consciousnesses controling a dinosaur

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Sort of like that one spongebob episode

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Where plankton puts the control mechanism in spongebob's head

proper steppe
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Somnus would be the Roman god of sleep

hearty bramble
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That spongebob reference tho xD

coarse sonnet
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Idk, but dinosaur - avatar idea seems too futuristic and... stupid. Why tf anyone will transfer its mind into a dryo??

regal sundial
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Recentish developments have brought to light that it seems very sci-fiy

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And kind of existential contemplation of what makes a person who they are?

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Sorta like SOMA

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Or uh

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The matrix

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And uhh EVE Online with the whole reincarnation

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Or Prey with the neuromods

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And it doesn't seem voluntary

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Not any more at least

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Maybe people did from the start but we don't know

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But now we're basically rats in a maze for the AI overmind thing

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Also tones of the existentialism of the legitimacy of a clone's existance

coarse sonnet
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Idk, but human minds in dino bodys... sounds like a trash movie plot imo. But we will see.Don4Think

regal sundial
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The underlying reason is humans are intelligent problem solvers

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And the AI wants to create the perfect organism

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So it runs these brute force rapid lifecycles of dinosaurs controlled by humans

proper steppe
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Profiles are literally a way to explain the players in terms of the lore

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That's it

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It's a meta lore

coarse sonnet
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Why someone need explaining players?

proper steppe
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Why not?

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I don't see the issue

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Pretty sure the game takes place in the not-so-distant-future anyway

fossil lily
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I say we stop focusing on these small useless details.

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We need to find the gateway

sharp frigate
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"Useless"

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You don't know that.

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And we can discuss everything.

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We literally have nothing else to learn about gateway, so telling us to stop our course of discussion to focus on something we have next to nothing about is just repetition of what has already been discussed

coarse sonnet
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^

fossil lily
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Ah ok

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You have a point

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Im focusing too much on The Gateway / Terminal .-.

coarse sonnet
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If dinosaur is controlled by human consciousness => he is intelligent => why we can't use tools, and stuff?

hearty mulch
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If the affinity thing is anything to go by, our dinosaur is still its own dinosaur. Just sorta set to the side.

proper steppe
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The dinosaur is still a dinosaur, it's just being controlled by a profile

coarse sonnet
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So, human can controll it's movement and behavior, but can't make it do more complicated things, like, grab a stick... interesting

vital tree
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Maybe it’s a human controlling it but the dinosaur body still has primal urges that cause it to act more savage than a human would be.

proper steppe
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We know how much control the profile has over it

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we play as profiles

vital tree
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The question is whether the profiles are actually human

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Or some sort of ai

proper steppe
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We are the profiles, we know they're at least on par with human intelligence

vital tree
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Ye

pallid junco
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see thats the thing tho

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we play as the profiles

coarse sonnet
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So, profile controlled dinos is a good bio-weapon Don4Think

pallid junco
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but we don't know what they are

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Are they just the players?

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Or is there something more?

coarse sonnet
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We play as profiles who play as dinosaur? Seems too complicated

pallid junco
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but not out of the question

regal sundial
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@coarse sonnet I think the "Why aren't the dinos super smart?" is solved with sort of like running crysis on a shitty computer

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Or in this case a human mind in a dumpy dinosaur pea brain

coarse sonnet
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Human mind running on (shitty) dryo brain... maybe

hearty mulch
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Wonder if we're gen 1 or gen 2 then

pallid junco
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there is one loading screen regarding stuff about the utahs that may tie into that

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gen 1's were only about as smart as a goat

regal sundial
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The water endurance suggests we play as gen 1 dinos

pallid junco
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gen 2's borderlined human intelligence

proper steppe
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@dull falcon How do you read the hypoendocrine pages?

dull falcon
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Are you on mobile?

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Because the website gets fucked up when its on mobile right now, you gotta use a pc or laptop

proper steppe
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No, I'm on pc

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it scrolls through them automatically, I have to keep switching back in order to read any of the text

dull falcon
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That’s weird, I’ll try to fix it

lone peak
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If you have a moment, some of the info on the strains is.. outside of the screen, I guess? Can't read most of it.
Tisso reaper
Hyper collosus
Hyper giga
Hyper Utah
Hyper Spinosaurus

proper steppe
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Also no descriptions for non-strain critters like matriarch, magnas, or primordial in the strains & creatures section

icy onyx
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if you're having trouble on mobile

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just request desktop access

lone peak
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My bit is what I'm seeing on the computer, btw.

dull falcon
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Alright, I fixed it so it doesn’t autoplay on the strains, but I don’t know how to fix the text being outside the screen because it works fine for me. I’m going to add more creatures later but I’m taking a break for now. If anyone has any more feedback please message me personally so we don’t clutter up the theory chat with non-theory stuff

regal sundial
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Magna is a type of strain btw @dull falcon

dull falcon
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Is there any evidence of it being called a strain?

lone peak
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Well
isn't it supposed to be like, a more perfected hyper? They couln't sustain themselves so they made a smaller version and called it a magna

dull falcon
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Kind of

icy onyx
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@regal sundial I dont remember it being called a strain.

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Its a perfected Hyper tho.

regal sundial
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Dondi refered to it as one I think

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In a tweet

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With the whole

icy onyx
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No.

dull falcon
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I think a strain is a certain gene applied to a creature. The console said reaper and echidna were created when humans came in contact with the gene. The “Magna” is just a perfected version of a creature

icy onyx
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He did not.

regal sundial
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"You people don't think H N M T doesn't mean something?"

icy onyx
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Where is that tweet?

dull falcon
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That doesn’t exactly call is a strain... I consider Magna to be a halfish strain. It’s just humans altering genes to create a perfectly balanced organism. Strains focus on only one aspect.

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I remember that tweet tho

proper steppe
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When was it confirmed that magna was a perfected hyper?

regal sundial
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Never was confirmed that is was

dull falcon
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It wasn’t. It’s just an attempt at the “perfect organism” by AE

proper steppe
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That's what I thought

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Seems like magna is a "type", not a strain

regal sundial
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Maybe rename the strains to strains and modified creatures then?

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And add the matriarch

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And magna

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And put the like

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Progenitors of the strains under it

lone peak
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or we can just call it a strain for simplicity
oh on that note
what the fuck is the matriarch

proper steppe
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It already is Strains & Creatures

dull falcon
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The assets for Thronebreaker and Allfather were acquired at the same time, so the Magna can’t be a perfected Hypo.

regal sundial
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Nothing is really known for sure

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Except that it has something to with completed profiles?

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So it probably has something to do with the whole objective of creating a perfect organism

dull falcon
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It redistributes completed profiles within Tartarus. Not much else is known

proper steppe
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We know that it isn't exactly a dinosaur, that it is a completely adaptable organism, that it has offspring, and that it might have a thing to do with completed profiles

lone peak
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I see

regal sundial
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Taterfi you're confused I think?

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The stream said that the matriarch itself would distribute through tartarus

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When a profile is completed

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There was also art tapwing did of a like..

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hexapod pteranadon

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But that's not canon

proper steppe
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Again

lone peak
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Matriarchs are the leaders of things, so maybe it's like, AE's goal for a perfected creature/weapon/whatever AE wants to use them for? Maybe??

icy onyx
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We dont know if anything of Tap's is canon

proper steppe
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There are things you guys are forgetting

dull falcon
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I always imagined the matriarch as a queen from Aliens lol

proper steppe
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We know that it isn't exactly a dinosaur, that it is completely adaptable, and that it has offspring

dull falcon
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Yea, its mentioned in the console thing

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EIP means “Embryo Intelligence Profile

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To be honest I have no idea what’s canon in the console interactions and what’s not. I know that the Novaraptor is not canon and idk about Phoenix corp. I’ve even heard some rumors that the reaper has been scrapped but idk

proper steppe
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Wonder what a NEIP is

regal sundial
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Nova raptor isn't

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Anything mentioning phoenix corp isn't

icy onyx
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Neurotenic Embryo Intelligence Profile?

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Just a guess

regal sundial
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Networked maybe?

dull falcon
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I just wish there was solid clarity, I mean now that PC isn’t canon, how did AE get the three canon assets in Inferno? (Magna, Hypo, Quetz?)

regal sundial
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Remember kids

dull falcon
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Well, Tartarus only has completed profiles, keep that in mind

regal sundial
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Can't have plot holes if it's a EA obscure ARG

dull falcon
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And Tartarus is the only location with NEIP

regal sundial
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How do we know that?

dull falcon
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Hold on lemme find it

regal sundial
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That it only has completed profiles

dull falcon
harsh oasis
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Hm, well hopefully some time soon the matriarch will be revealed to us.

dull falcon
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Maybe it doesn’t have only completed profiles, but I feel like non completed profiles would tamper with the studies

smoky cosmos
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Who said PC isnt canon

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Its still a company in isle lore, just not connected to primal carnage

regal sundial
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Dondi

smoky cosmos
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hmm

regal sundial
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After they tried to scalp him

harsh oasis
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Wait, they tried to get after dondi for lore?

dull falcon
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...... Is there any solid evidence he said it tho?

smoky cosmos
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just not connected to carnage

dull falcon
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Noice

regal sundial
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The dondi discord voice

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Recordings

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When he was talking about it

harsh oasis
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Where are the recordings?

regal sundial
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Should be on taterfi's site

dull falcon
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But I’m 99% sure Novaraptor is not cannon

smoky cosmos
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novaraptor doesnt exist

sharp frigate
sinful wraith
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Welp Meaty is lucky to have his private own conversation with Dondi where he can ask him anything

smoky cosmos
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What people dont realize is that Dondi used to work on Primal Carnage

regal sundial
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I do tho Don4Succ

harsh oasis
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So do I.

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Why else try to add in a trashy game to your own game's lore?

sinful wraith
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Even if he doesn’t leak everything, still useful

smoky cosmos
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Well if PC doesnt exist then just replace that name with something else I guess

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Lmao @sinful wraith. Not sure if I'm lucky

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I leave the conversation more confused

harsh oasis
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Yeah

smoky cosmos
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and even less answers

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just more questions

harsh oasis
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Dondi isn't just going to give Meaty everything.

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Wouldn't make any sense.

sinful wraith
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Ik that was mostly a joke

smoky cosmos
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Also Phoenix corp might not exist anymore like you said

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I dont really know tbh

sinful wraith
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But sometines it helps bringing some angles you missed

dull falcon
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Yeah that’s what I’m worried about, I just wish there was some clarity

smoky cosmos
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but even if it doesnt I dont think it really matters

harsh oasis
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Well we won't know until Dondi tells us.

smoky cosmos
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doesnt change anything

regal sundial
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Anything relating to inferno is in a grey area

smoky cosmos
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unless the story is completely different

regal sundial
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And novaraptor is delet

icy onyx
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Nova, Throne Breaker, and Alphonse are deleted

smoky cosmos
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Well throne breaker is in the game lmao

regal sundial
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That line is the only thing that makes me think throne breaker isn't the hypo rex

dull falcon
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I mean Operation: Inferno did a lot of stuff. That’s how AE got the hypo and magna, plus a lot of destruction was dealt to Islands 1 and 2

regal sundial
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Or they did some retconning

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To make it the hypo rex

smoky cosmos
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technically alphonse is in the game too

dull falcon
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And Inferno directly ties with PC

icy onyx
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Who says Throne breaker is Hypo Rex, and all we know it could be something else and that face book page would be non related at all

regal sundial
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That's true

harsh oasis
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Alphonse is the first quetz, right?

icy onyx
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yes

regal sundial
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Altho- Yeah

smoky cosmos
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Well it might not be the first quetz in the game

regal sundial
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And wasn't it like

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A hypo

smoky cosmos
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but quetz's do exist

regal sundial
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That escaped

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Then got blasted?

dull falcon
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I mean the only concrete evidence we have just states project alphonse was the creation of the first quetz

harsh oasis
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Wait, Throne breaker is the Hypo Rex? Why are you trying to confuse it, Sprinkles? You're confusing me.

smoky cosmos
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ignore sprinkles

icy onyx
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I'm just saying its a possibility.

smoky cosmos
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Dude

harsh oasis
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Stop.

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You're wrong.

smoky cosmos
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flying assholes inside of a building are a possibility too

icy onyx
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Okay... We'll do it your way.

smoky cosmos
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Why make shit up

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Use what we know

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things dont need to be more complicated

icy onyx
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So, Alphonse is Quetz, Throne - Breaker is Hypo Rex, While All-Father is Manga.

harsh oasis
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Mhm

icy onyx
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If Manga is a completed Hypo

sinful wraith
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Did you look at the song Replica?

dull falcon
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Yea, and Alphonse, or Alphie, is quetz

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Magna is not completed hypo

sinful wraith
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I think this is also helpful

icy onyx
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One sec.

regal sundial
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Alpha I think is what it was actually called at one point??

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The quetz

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Then that turned into alphonse

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Then got shortened to alphie

hearty mulch
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Alphie is an old PC reference

regal sundial
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Oh it is?

smoky cosmos
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yes

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look in the top right

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above quetz

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says project alfie

dull falcon
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Neato

smoky cosmos
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this is a primal carnage screenshot

harsh oasis
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Coolio

hearty mulch
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Was an old fan idea that caught a lot of traction

regal sundial
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It's also refered to as specimen alpha (so I'm technically right too, the best kind of right)

smoky cosmos
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yeah I guess in primal carnage

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never heard anyone use that in isle though

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but it doesnt really matter either way

dull falcon
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So I wonder if Gateway is on one of the three islands? And what about Tartarus?

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The console says that Gateway is in between islands 1 and 2, but those islands are in red status and gateway is locked

smoky cosmos
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during the thing some of them turn green

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and then back red

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we dont really know what that means though

regal sundial
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Active doesn't necessarily mean green

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Green just means it's not fucked

smoky cosmos
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like

dull falcon
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yea, i assumed red meant there were containment breaches, but there was a containment breach in Tartarus and it remained green

regal sundial
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Something can still be active and fucked

smoky cosmos
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island two status is red

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then its active

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yeah

dull falcon
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Also, since Gateway is locked does that mean replication is locked in some way too?

regal sundial
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Making more of an effort

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Anth just skims shit

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Misinterprets half of it

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Then slams it in a video

smoky cosmos
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Tartarus according to wikipedia

regal sundial
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And before you even knew what you had you patented it, packaged and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox and now you're SELLING IT, SELLING IT.

smoky cosmos
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is the deep abyss that is used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked and as the prison for the Titans. Tartarus is the place where, according to Plato's Gorgias (c. 400 BC), souls are judged after death and where the wicked received divine punishment.

regal sundial
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I have a theory

sinful wraith
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Gateway can be unlocked rn btw

regal sundial
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The AI rebelled against AE

harsh oasis
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Mhm

smoky cosmos
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its basically hell

regal sundial
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And succed their consciousnesses out

harsh oasis
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That's what we came up with.

regal sundial
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And locked them in 'tartarus'

smoky cosmos
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kind of lol

coral bronze
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What does AE stand for tho 🤔

smoky cosmos
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apollo engineering

harsh oasis
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Apollo Engineering

coral bronze
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Oh

dull falcon
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It’s weird because completed profiles are redistributed within Tartarus, so it seems more like heaven

regal sundial
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Or is it?

smoky cosmos
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dull falcon
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But also it contains scary monsters like Colossus so... yea lol

harsh oasis
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Huh, I wonder how they're contained?

coral bronze
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Isn't Tatarus basically hell?

regal sundial
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I personally think loss of a profile's humanity scales proportionally with how '''complete''' it is

smoky cosmos
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So tartarus contains titans, where souls are judged and where the wicked receive punishment

dull falcon
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Tartarus is hell of the Greek/Roman mythology. It has a river made of fire and everything

harsh oasis
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Sounds fun

regal sundial
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p much

sinful wraith
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Waiting for Agony 2 then

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Also you have an idea for why they all do that?

smoky cosmos
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maybe tartarus is just where our "souls" are kept between deaths?

coral bronze
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Purgatory?

dull falcon
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But

sinful wraith
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We know at the end only one should remain, so why all of this

dull falcon
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Completed profiles are redistributed and studied, so that means that creatures are active and roaming

harsh oasis
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Could just be where all the experimentation data comes back to, and is applied to those giant creatures.

dull falcon
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This again lol

smoky cosmos
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yeah idk

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I've always just thought tartarus is one of the islands

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or somewhere on a island

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which makes the most sense

icy onyx
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Or Tartarus is a collective whole is all the Islands.

harsh oasis
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It'd have to be really big though to hold such massive things, huh?

smoky cosmos
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but was just thinking of something we havent thought of yet

dull falcon
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Also this?

smoky cosmos
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yeah could be all the islands

sinful wraith
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Also something I’ve been questioning lately, we’re all trying to figure out what is Tartarus, but do we know what is Olympus? These 2 should be related

regal sundial
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There could be elements of some kind of VR as well

smoky cosmos
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well olympus is more easily explained I think

harsh oasis
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That makes sense, Meaty. All the islands seem to be like hell.

regal sundial
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In regards to some of these things refered to

smoky cosmos
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Olympus is probably where staff are

sinful wraith
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But maybe knowing what is Olympus could help what is Tartarus

smoky cosmos
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people who run the show

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including the AI

harsh oasis
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Making the people in charge the olympians.

dull falcon
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Is Olympus the same as Site 12 or whatever?

sinful wraith
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In mythology it is where are the Olympian Gods

smoky cosmos
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the olympus transmitter a part of site 12

harsh oasis
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There is mount Olympus too

smoky cosmos
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not sure if its only limited to one site though

regal sundial
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*is AT site 12

dull falcon
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Is that where the executive helipad is? If so, then yes, Olympus is where the big bois who run the show are

sinful wraith
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Also something interesting is that Olympus is well known to be the domicile of 12 superior gods

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Site-12

smoky cosmos
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yeah the transmitter is just a part of site 12

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responding to Fox Box

regal sundial
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Already had that line of thought Simi

sinful wraith
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Also Dino said to watch what the transmitters said closely

regal sundial
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It can't be a coincidence

sinful wraith
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I think we’re missing something about Olympus itself

harsh oasis
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And that'd be?

sinful wraith
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idk

dull falcon
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YOU GUYS

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hold on

viral owl
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What’s up tat

icy onyx
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?

dull falcon
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So remember the static image of the pillars?

harsh oasis
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Mhm

sinful wraith
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Yup

viral owl
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Yup

harsh oasis
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Oh yeah!

sinful wraith
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The one on the Olympus twitter

regal sundial
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Yeah?

dull falcon
sinful wraith
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I was not good enough to decrypt it

harsh oasis
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But what on it?

dull falcon
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So on the right, it says B1442 or B1443

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AND

regal sundial
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B-443 is the place the magna rex supposedly was grown

dull falcon
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EXACTLY

icy onyx
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B1443 Is what it says.

harsh oasis
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Ooo

regal sundial
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But I think dondi said that his is irrelevant at some point in voice?

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Not sure

viral owl
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WOAH

regal sundial
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It's B-443

dull falcon
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What if it’s not a 1. It’s a dash

regal sundial
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Common mistake interpeting it as a 1 and not a -

icy onyx
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Probably a Dash.

dull falcon
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Yea but we were all making it until now

hearty mulch
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It's a dash. Was written as B-443 in the terminal stream

sinful wraith
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Yeah

smoky cosmos
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I think tater means on the pillar

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looks like a dash on the pillar

dull falcon
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Yea

hearty mulch
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And ye. Place of Project Allfather's origin.

dull falcon
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It’s the location of an EIP. There’s only a couple

hearty mulch
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Probably the magna itself

sinful wraith
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Taterfi you think there’s something about the picture on the Olympus twitter?

dull falcon
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Idk, the Olympus twitter was created way after this image was released

sinful wraith
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:c

icy onyx
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Pretty sure it was created after the image was released.

smoky cosmos
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anyone have the original image

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for the header of the twitter

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not the icon

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I have the icon

hearty mulch
smoky cosmos
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just looks like a train rail or something

icy onyx
#

Whats behind the Train rail and to the left tho..

smoky cosmos
#

more pillars?

dull falcon
#

Looks like the same pillars supporting the rails, maybe they were building a line?

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Also notice how thick the pillars are and how high up the rails are... something’s underneath

regal sundial
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First one looks like a PC screenshot

smoky cosmos
#

and the bottom is weird shit

regal sundial
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Second...

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Looks like a monorail?

viral owl
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Looks like a monorail or a highway or something

regal sundial
#

Makes me think of the like, monorail by the mosasaur pen in JW

dull falcon
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Maybe it’s something small?

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Look at the crevice behind the pillars

hearty mulch
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Monorail track old, Isle lore obscure as always, Snow on Mt. Fuji.

viral owl
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It’s snowing on Mount Fuji

smoky cosmos
#

I reversed image searched it and came up with no matches

viral owl
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Darn

dull falcon
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For some reason the weird blob on the bottom right looks like a colossus head and shoulders to me lol

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Anyone else see it?

viral owl
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I’m trying to

smoky cosmos
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I mean besides the original caption

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observation systems

dull falcon
smoky cosmos
dull falcon
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I could be pulling at straws but .. yea

smoky cosmos
#

hmm

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I thought the darker parts were water

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and maybe reflections

viral owl
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I kind of see it but I dont think it is

smoky cosmos
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except the bottom part of the image

regal sundial
#

I wonder what the white part in the background is

smoky cosmos
#

not sure what that is

regal sundial
#

Or the pillary things in the background are

viral owl
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Snow? Sand?

dull falcon
#

I assumed the bottom was either static or weird rocks

smoky cosmos
#

makes me want to modify it in PS

dull falcon
#

Yes please lol

viral owl
#

Go ahead but I’m not sure it’ll amount to anything

smoky cosmos
#

looks like a glass filter over the bottom tbh

viral owl
#

You can try tho

dull falcon
#

Maybe it includes text if you edit it enough

regal sundial
#

Doubt it

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It'd still be interesting to know better what it is though

viral owl
#

Hmmm what is the dark bit?

smoky cosmos
#

no idea

dull falcon
#

My mind still won’t unsee some sort of creature at the bottom right lol

viral owl
#

Lol

dull falcon
#

The bottom weird shit has to be of some significance. Dondi always hides little things in places. Remember that screenshot with hypo giga in the background and a cannibal climbing a tree? I feel like this is similar to that

viral owl
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Yeah

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It looks kinda like a distorted map but probably not

smoky cosmos
#

yeah not gonna mess with it anymore in PS

smoky cosmos
#

not sure how to undo some of these effects lol

viral owl
#

Didn’t find anything?

dull falcon
#

Yes that

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Anyone know someone good with PS?

viral owl
#

No sorry

scarlet remnant
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it does look like some sort of object/creature though and not just part of the terrain, because its covering one of the pillars like its infront of it, or maybe the pillars naturally that short, not sure. 🤔

dull falcon
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Yea I’m starting to think maybe it’s a hypo rex? It looks like its in between two pillars

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Idk we can’t tell for sure because it’s so distorted

viral owl
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Oh wait tat I kinda do see something

icy onyx
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Tat I see it but Idont think its anything execpt static.

dull falcon
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It’s sideways and the face is partially turning towards the camera, at least that’s how I see it. Plus the caption says “observation” so...

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Idk tho, I can’t say it’s exactly that because of the distortion. Maybe it is just static

viral owl
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Yeah

regal sundial
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It kinda looks like a head, but the 'body' melts into the rest of the picture as a blob

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I think the collumn looking covered is just perspective warping

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With the heavy editing of the picture

viral owl
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Yeah I straight up cant unsee it now

dull falcon
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Plus the bottom sort of stretches the “belly” portion as part of the distortion

viral owl
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Yeah

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If only we had someone skilled enough at photoshop to undo the distortion

dull falcon
#

Also I think there’s some trees covering part of it

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But yea we can’t tell for sure until we find someone who’s good at PS

regal sundial
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Don't think you can undo desaturation

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I'm vaguely okay at messing with pictures in GIMP but unfucking that picture is like

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Several levels above my skill level

dull falcon
#

Who un-distorted that hypo carno image?

smoky cosmos
#

which hypo carno image?

regal sundial
#

All they did was up the saturation

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I could've done that

dull falcon
#

It’s an image of a hypo carno in a forest I think. I don’t have the image tho. Anyone have it?

smoky cosmos
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oh the dark one?

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yeah it wasnt distorted

viral owl
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I know what ur talking about but I don’t have it

smoky cosmos
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they just brightened it

dull falcon
#

o

smoky cosmos
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little curves adjustment is easy

gray flax
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what image? DM it me

smoky cosmos
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why dm lol

gray flax
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or here i dont care where

dull falcon
#

I never saw the original version so I don’t know what they did with it lol

gray flax
#

i know grapics design decently well

regal sundial
#

It was just a night time screenshot

smoky cosmos
#

actually I have it

regal sundial
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With a hypo carno head in the corner

smoky cosmos
#

not sure why I was looking for it

smoky cosmos
#

then let me brighten it

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yeah ^

scarlet remnant
#

i can see the head now that you were talking about but then the neck has a weird shape, like its got a head of something attached to it.🤔 i dunno maybe its not a creature.

dull falcon
#

I forgot, is Hades supposed to be the hypo carno?

smoky cosmos
#

hypo carno is apart of hades

dull falcon
#

Ahh ok.

smoky cosmos
#

thats where we got that image

dull falcon
#

Also Meaty did you see the fancy shmancy new site?

smoky cosmos
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nope

#

same url?

dull falcon
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Go to pinned message

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Completely new site

smoky cosmos
#

Oh nice

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looks good

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I made it a bit brighter

dull falcon
#

Looks like something from a Diablo game lol

smoky cosmos
#

oh yeah you've done a lot more work

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in explaining stuff

dull falcon
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yepperoni. I tried to make it more newbie friendly so we don’t have as much people asking the same questions in here

smoky cosmos
#

should have done this before I started my lore

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😭

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lmao

viral owl
#

So how far back in time do the tweets and stuff sort of become obsolete because they’re not canon anymore

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Lol

dull falcon
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sorry mate 🙃

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Everything from Olympus is pretty new and most likely canon. Idk about the isle official twitter, i haven’t really looked back in a while

#

Well guys I’m gonna go to sleep now. Let me know if you find anything important in the morning

harsh oasis
#

So I assume Meaty is going to have to make another updated lore video, R.I.P Don4Smug

sinful wraith
#

I’m still waiting for his own server with a new exclusive dinosaur > : (

harsh oasis
#

We're all still waiting for a lot of things

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It's ok

viral owl
#

I’m gonna go to sleep too

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I’m too tired from thinking about this lore

smoky cosmos
#

I dont need to make another updated lore video

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not until we learn something new anyways

coarse sonnet
#

are neuro really will be able to control weathrer?

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Or this is just speculation

buoyant heart
#

yes this has been confirmed, at least for the spino

coarse sonnet
#

How animal can controll weather, which is a very complicated process? Magic? Isn't it sci-fi game?

buoyant heart
#

yeah it is

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its sci-fi

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o-o

icy onyx
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Who said its sc fi

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Its not 100% it can but it possible can.

buoyant heart
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no im 100 percent sure its been confirmed

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nod*

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also sci-fi horror ;3

icy onyx
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You see, It can but i dont think its more so it changes the weather but I feel its more likely it fucks with your brain and make you think there is a storm going on.

coarse sonnet
#

This is not sci-fi thing

icy onyx
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But thats just a speculation there.

coarse sonnet
#

Ye, brain-fuccing theory makes more sense

icy onyx
#

No not really its like sci fi.

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Still.

unique current
#

But even scientifically it wouldn't be hard to make it "rain".

sharp frigate
#

It’s simple

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Artificial environment

#

Neurotenic Spino jacks into the weather system

unique current
#

Good point..

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Hacker confirmed😸

coarse sonnet
#

Artificial environment? Matrix?Don4Think

covert chasm
#

It would make sense since at least when Dondi was streaming, he used commands to make it night. I'm not sure if that's an actual ability of the Neuro Spino, but if it can just change the time of day, it's definitely not the 'real' time, be it artificial or some matrix level stuff.

#

Because I doubt it's psyker powers are strong enough to like. Pull the moon.

unique current
#

Yet

covert chasm
#

If it can pull the moon the next moment it's going to be shitting out warp storms.

sharp frigate
#

Artificial environment I wouldn’t doubt it if it could control time of day.. but what you saw was an admin command, not an ability

#

Hell

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If it can do that I imagine it’d be able to fuck up the entire if not most of the systems

covert chasm
#

Neuro Spino uses it's 200 IQ powers to literally uninstall your game.

coarse sonnet
#

And even if it can change weather, seems like pretty useless ability

covert chasm
#

I don't know, if you're a lumbering, glowing behemoth, I think some fog and a bit of darkness will help you hide better than pure daylight.

coarse sonnet
#

So, camouflage would be more useful

covert chasm
#

But literally changing the weather is a lot cooler than just looking like grass.

coarse sonnet
#

Cooler, but too "magical" imo. Unless it's really an artificial environment.

slow delta
#

If its artificial doesnt that mean it shouldnt have that ability on other maps

zenith eagle
#

Wait guys, if Tartarus is green but has a containment breach, does that mean it is like the island concept art? The one with three 'bases'

static crater
#

Guys guys

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Why the heck would anyone ever want to put human minds into dinosaurs when they're gonna have dinosaur tendencies anyways?

tribal trench
#

To make the perfect being

sweet zephyr
#

evolution, adaptation.

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the reasoning to have them behave as dinosaur is because, naturally, their minds aren't those of the dinosaur.

tribal trench
#

But it's the human consciousness ^

static crater
#

Does that translate to human intelligence?

sweet zephyr
#

it does.

#

yet you need to fool said human intelligence.

#

make it not believe itself to be a human.

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and that is where you get your results.

static crater
#

And how is this supposed to create a perfect being?

sweet zephyr
#

I do not know.

tribal trench
static crater
#

With human levels of intelligence comes human levels of problem solving, yes?

#

So why cant Utahs steal and use mercs' guns?

tribal trench
#

How is an Utah supposed to hold a gun?

static crater
#

idk it's as smart as a person, it could probably figure something out

tribal trench
#

Yeah well we're smart and we haven't figured out how to make feet guns lol

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Or shoulder guns

static crater
#

I disagree

tribal trench
#

🤷

static crater
#

Doubt there aren't any petal-activated guns out there

tribal trench
#

Yeah and if there are, they'd be super uncomfortable to use and have bad aim

static crater
#

But it'd be worth it

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for a toe gun

tribal trench
#

An Utah doesn't have opposable thumbs, it couldn't make guns for itself

#

Or useful hands for crafting really

static crater
#

It has a mouth :I

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Fish can use tools

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And fish are dumb

tribal trench
#

It's gonna make a GUN that it has never made before specifically for itself with its MOUTH?

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And ammo

static crater
#

nah

#

It could make a spear :I

tribal trench
static crater
#

and one shot rexes

tribal trench
#

How is it gonna use a spear properly

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Holding it with its mouth and turning around?

#

Because that would have little force

static crater
#

little force?

tribal trench
#

Or do you want it to put duct tape and stick it to its bad

static crater
#

Utahs weigh more than a Bison

tribal trench
#

Back

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Yea

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And it's not gonna turn fast enough

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For a spear to work

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If it's holding it

static crater
#

Utah has a POTENT alt turn for your information

tribal trench
#

Still now fast enough

#

Not

#

And

#

It'd be more useful

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To just bite

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Or pounce

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Plus takes less time to make spear

static crater
#

it could hold the spear in its mouth so it's sticking outwards and run facefirst into a T. rex

tribal trench
#

Than to make spear*

#

That'd be super akwaed

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And the Rex could just eat it

static crater
#

Not if it gets speared

buoyant heart
#

I really like this idea of dinosaurs somehow unlocking their human profile potential and gaining back some of their intelligence

#

ewe

tribal trench
#

I mean try holding a spear in your mouth pointing forwards and running

static crater
#

You mean they aren't intelligent like humans?

leaden nexus
#

cannibals using guns

buoyant heart
#

they are made to think they ar_YES

static crater
#

Well it would be the same as that thing where you hold a spoon with an egg on it

buoyant heart
#

wat

#

e-e

tribal trench
#

Except you're running fast

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Into a rex

buoyant heart
#

ohhhh

static crater
#

yeah

buoyant heart
#

hm hm

tribal trench
#

Face first

buoyant heart
#

hehe

static crater
#

but theres no risk of an egg falling off

buoyant heart
#

yes but

#

imagine

#

raptors with spears

#

OuO

tribal trench
#

The spear would have more weight on the other end, therefor it'd be aiming downwards

buoyant heart
#

actually better idea

leaden nexus
#

Why use spears when you have sickle claws?

tribal trench
#

^

static crater
#

Cause spears op

tribal trench
#

Yeaaa no

buoyant heart
#

what about something like this

tribal trench
#

T Rex bite>spear

buoyant heart
#

ehh ehhhh?

static crater
#

Unless every single dinosaur in this game lives all by itself, I find it hard to believe that several animals as intelligent as humans couldn't make a frickin spear

tribal trench
#

It's said cannibals lose their intelligence I think

static crater
#

literally take a big stick and use your teeth to sharpen it

#

Frick cannibals

buoyant heart
#

....

leaden nexus
#

@buoyant heart that has no thumbs

buoyant heart
#

no no it does not

#

BUT

#

it could still hold something

leaden nexus
#

No thumbs means no holding tools

buoyant heart
#

mmmm

static crater
#

it could use its cloaca hole

buoyant heart
#

omg

#

waiiit

#

what if it two handed it

#

o-o?

static crater
#

what if it two handed what?

leaden nexus
#

That'd be inefficient

static crater
#

know what else would be inefficient?

buoyant heart
#

.>

static crater
#

Putting human consciousnesses into dinosaurs and making them act like dinosaurs when you could just have normal dinosaurs in the first place, since they already act like dinosaurs

buoyant heart
#

your questioning the lore

#

...

static crater
#

I am

#

Cause it's dumb

buoyant heart
#

.....

leaden nexus
#

Tbf

#

The dinosaurs act like douchebags

buoyant heart
#

^^^

static crater
#

U rite

#

Think the all-controlling AI wonked up the behavior settings

buoyant heart
#

well lucky for us we arnt in charge ;3

leaden nexus
#

But yeah cannibals can use human shit easily with a human consciousness

buoyant heart
#

though I do feel like an offshoot of the cannibal would be interesting

#

exactly

leaden nexus
#

It probably cant aim for shit though

static crater
#

hold on hold on hold on

buoyant heart
#

hm hm

static crater
#

wait a second

#

for just one second

buoyant heart
#

???? what is it e-e

leaden nexus
#

Its been several seconds

static crater
#

wasnt the magnaraptor or hypo utah or something supposed to be SUPER SMART

#

cause it could..

#

OPEN DOORS???

buoyant heart
#

WAIT

#

HA

#

MY IDEA WORKS

leaden nexus
#

Yes, cause its wrists are broken

static crater
#

i mean

leaden nexus
#

But it has no thumbs still

buoyant heart
#

YES

leaden nexus
#

So it cant use tools

static crater
#

anything could grab a doorknob with its mouth and twist

leaden nexus
#

So

#

No

buoyant heart
#

no no no im taking this victory uwu

static crater
#

u sure hombre?

#

Corvids use tools

buoyant heart
#

^^^

leaden nexus
#

Its not a victory if you lose

static crater
#

And they don't even have fingers

buoyant heart
#

plenty of animals do

leaden nexus
#

Its like the no child left behind bs

static crater
#

Fish use tools on rare occasion

buoyant heart
#

w< fish are so cute when they use tools

leaden nexus
#

Its like giving a trophy to middle school baseball team for attending the game and losing

#

Which happens

#

So

#

No

static crater
#

hawks spread fire in Australia one time, forcing prey out of shrubbery and into the talons of death

leaden nexus
#

Not a victory

static crater
#

if hawk-intelligence hawks can do that, why can't human-intelligent dinos?

buoyant heart
#

exactly

leaden nexus
#

A raptor will never use spears

#

Or guns

tribal trench
#

Again, it's literally impossible for an Utah to aim so

leaden nexus
#

Or bows

buoyant heart
#

besides humans might not be the most intelligent life out there and adaptations of tool use exist

leaden nexus
#

Give it thumbs then sure

#

No

#

But otherwise

#

Its impossible for them

buoyant heart
#

couldn't a raptor just tie some pointy sticks to its sides and ram into someone

#

o-o

tribal trench
#

Not even with thumbs

static crater
#

It would need other raptor help, but yeah

tribal trench
#

It wouldn't be able to aim

leaden nexus
#

Because they can totally tie ropes

tribal trench
#

^

buoyant heart
#

.>

static crater
#

But Bow

#

why would it do that

buoyant heart
#

cause pointy sticks

static crater
#

when it could choose trike instead of raptor in the first place?

buoyant heart
#

thats...not the point but ok

leaden nexus
#

A raptor cant use said tools

#

It cant use a lot of tools

#

If any

#

They arent built that way

buoyant heart
#

it can grab things sooo it could use somthing

#

I mean

#

look at people with less fingers

tribal trench
#

No thumbs, no proper grabbing

#

They still have thumbs

leaden nexus
#

Also need decent palm space

buoyant heart
#

without thumbs

tribal trench
#

Then

#

You can see

#

How much they struggle

lucid ermine
#

Are y’all talking about a hyper utah or a normal utah?

tribal trench
#

Without em

leaden nexus
#

Both

buoyant heart
#

they do but people get used to it over time, I can write with my feet for example

tribal trench
leaden nexus
#

Thats not hard to do

#

Our feet used to grab on to shit

tribal trench
#

Utah feet didn't

leaden nexus
#

It makes sense we can still sorta do that

tribal trench
#

Yea

static crater
#

know what else's feet grab onto shit?

#

UTAHS

tribal trench
#

Uhm no

buoyant heart
#

e-e thats not the point, the point is the brain can be rewired and muscles can be strengthened

static crater
#

uhm yeah

buoyant heart
#

boi

tribal trench
#

They just used the sickle claw to cut

buoyant heart
#

BOI

static crater
#

What do you think the claw is for?

#

CUTTING?

tribal trench
#

After jumping on the prey

static crater
#

No

leaden nexus
#

The claws were to cut

tribal trench
#

For cutting and stabbing

static crater
#

It's for holding on

leaden nexus
#

Its hand claws held on

buoyant heart
#

they have toessss

static crater
#

The mouth does the cutting

buoyant heart
#

so do the toes

tribal trench
#

🤦

buoyant heart
#

.>

tribal trench
#

Mouth isn't used for cutting, the sickle claw is

jaunty sundial
#

🍿

tribal trench
#

^

static crater
#

It isn't tho

buoyant heart
#

same viper

#

o-o;

leaden nexus
#

Small weak teeth or large sickle

#

Hmmm

tribal trench
#

^

leaden nexus
#

Which seems better

#

Hmmmmmmmmm

buoyant heart
#

but then why does it bite

#

O_O

static crater
#

Allos had small weak teeth relative to their size

tribal trench
#

Eating and small things

static crater
#

Komodo dragons have small weak teeth

tribal trench
#

Because they're venomous

#

/infectious

icy onyx
#

When theories turns into dinosaur anatomy talk

buoyant heart
#

what about pouncing on large animals

#

the animations have both forms of attack

static crater
#

venomous

tribal trench
#

They grab with hands and cut with sickle claws

static crater
#

That's ridiculous

buoyant heart
#

omg stan nice name change XP

static crater
#

Their arms aren't strong or long enough to hold squirming prey down

#

or hold their thousand pound bodies up on the side of a hadrosaur

buoyant heart
#

^^^

#

so the mouth is used

#

and the feet

#

BOTH

#

OWO

leaden nexus
#

How does this relate to your tools idea?

buoyant heart
#

...I have no idea

static crater
#

it does I swear

buoyant heart
#

XP

tribal trench
#

Then.. How is a sickle claw gonna keep you holding by that logic?

buoyant heart
#

omgg

static crater
#

Because it had strong tendons connecting to said sickle claw and strong leg muscles

#

y'know, legs only have the strongest muscles in the body

warped coral
#

nice theories you got here

#

oh wait its paleo chat

static crater
#

We should go to #paleotalk

buoyant heart
#

sorry

#

yeah

#

AWAY

tribal trench
#

Tell me how the mouth is supposed to cut then. OK sure, #paleotalk

buoyant heart
#

MY PEOPLE NEED ME

leaden nexus
#

So you agree that your theory for raptors using weapons is null

#

Best waste of time ever

buoyant heart
#

;.;

#

dont be mean

tribal trench
#

Lol

leaden nexus
#

Sorry, forgot I'm not playing the isle, the inner douchebag in me popped out

buoyant heart
#

;;.;;

tribal trench
#

But it's true, it was a waste of time

buoyant heart
#

yeah yeah but we did get some interesting ideas out of it

#

I think

leaden nexus
#

Guys pull a theory up

#

Or Im tagging aliens

buoyant heart
#

uhhhhh

#

logging in

#

ive been looking at those tweets forever now to figure it out

leaden nexus
#

Whoever you're expecting, its not them

#

It was Dio all along

buoyant heart
#

so far what ive got is that its very much tied to greek mythology, and that its some kind of riddle

#

😛

#

wait

tribal trench
#

It was dondi Don4LUL

buoyant heart
#

WHAT

#

wait are you joking boi e-e

leaden nexus
#

Of course they are

buoyant heart
#

ok...good e-e

#

and ive also been thinking

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what if there is only a short period of time where you can log in

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when the transmissions are active?

leaden nexus
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Thatd be silly

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inserts konami code

buoyant heart
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w>

dull falcon
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to the people who are wondering why dinos don’t make weapons... why would you need a tiny spear when you have fucking massive teeth the size of knives and claws that can slash something open in an instant

leaden nexus
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Dont bring that topic back to them

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Plz;_;

buoyant heart
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;.;

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BECAUSE LONG RANGE

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ok im done

leaden nexus
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I'm not stepping on that land mine again

buoyant heart
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ok ok

lucid ermine
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Can i ask something a little bit different now?

buoyant heart
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sure 😄

lucid ermine
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Alright. Did we ever figure out what “Not everyone among you is honest. You should consider who is telling the truth and who is not.” Meant?

buoyant heart
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...I saw it as being the devs buuuut im not sure

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I know I know thats weird but

leaden nexus
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It means dondi likes to tease us with riddles

buoyant heart
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that too

leaden nexus
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And then gives ambiguous answers

buoyant heart
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that may or may not be lies

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.>

jaunty sundial
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It could be something to do with players and how their ideas of balancing a game might not be the most honest. Their reports of incidents are not always honest or even accurate. Their claims on how they behave in game aren't the most honest either. It could be something related to "glitches" in profiles

icy onyx
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Maybe someone is trying to direct us in a different path that is leading further and further away from completing our profiles.

jaunty sundial
leaden nexus
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Or

buoyant heart
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both are good ideas

leaden nexus
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It could mean Terry Crews logged in

jaunty sundial
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The fun thing about a lot of these tidbits of lore or transmissions is that we could very well take this as literally as possible - or they could be a metaphor for something. Both avenues are interesting and worth considering

tribal trench
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fun

buoyant heart
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I feel like the tweets are like a riddle or somthing

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like "It walks on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon and three legs in the evening. What is it?"

tribal trench
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A tricicleDon4CG

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Uh

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Maybe cannibal or smth??

leaden nexus
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A tricycloplots

tribal trench
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Idek

buoyant heart
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the answer is a human btw ;3

tribal trench
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Why 3 legs in the evening

leaden nexus
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Dont tell them

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Let them figure it out

tribal trench
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I MUST KNOW

buoyant heart
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uwu ill let you guys figure it out then

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;3

tribal trench
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Why are you like this

buoyant heart
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w<

slow delta
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has anyone bothered to screenshot all the loading msgs?

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im thinking of doing it

buoyant heart
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yus

coarse sonnet
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Look on lore site in pinned

slow delta
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where?

tribal trench
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In pinned

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Pinned messages

slow delta
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oh cool

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hmm i feel like some loading screens are missing

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and they look like photos rather than screenshots

buoyant heart
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woah that looks great

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where did you get that

static crater
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It's an old concept for the Tisso Deinonychus

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Really old,

copper kestrel
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Tisso deinonychus is like the textbook definition of scrapped

slow delta
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ah right

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it was made alongside some megaraptors

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gotchu

copper kestrel
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It looks cool, but as far as we know Deinonychus isn't coming and the tisso strain is being reworked

static crater
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But why rework the tiso strain dondi?

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It's so cool already

copper kestrel
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Agreed

tribal trench
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What's tisso special ability again?

slow delta
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regen?

static crater
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it has a lot

copper kestrel
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It was supposed to be an expert hunter iirc

static crater
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yeah

copper kestrel
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Smaller than it's normal counterpart

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Heightened senses

static crater
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good at tracking, spits acid, has venomous quills, can camoflauge...

slow delta
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dont they also have weird regeneration?

tribal trench
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Wow

copper kestrel
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Maybe

slow delta
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not sure

tribal trench
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Now I Q want that!

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I guess it's faster too?

copper kestrel
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The tisso rex concept is extremely badass

tribal trench
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Tisso giga Don4Think