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#isle-lore-theories
wary osprey
sinful wraith
I think all pure strains were humans before
summer helm
I think the Original creatures were likely made. Echidna is wierd in that she might have been a Project Volunteer. A Subject Zero is a popular Story mechanic
sinful wraith
so they could all be intelligent
wary osprey
yes but dondi has stated the tribals are NOT human but relate genrea
summer helm
I just want to point out 1 Strain is a Hulking monster, 1 is a Hunter, and 1 is a Mega-intelligent psychic monster
sinful wraith
but I don't think this is a reason to assume she is the only one capable to escape
sinful wraith
a lot of things could have forced the Colossus escape
summer helm
Simi, you have to answer 1 question
How long was the Colossus in containment
I say years
Enough to allow for Hypo experimentation
logging
and research
And more so, the creation of a whole new Magna Strain
wary osprey
the origins of these monsters like raised in the hominids that had been seperated on these island for millions of years, if not direct evolutionary lines( for at least the hunters or Echidna)
wary osprey
if not the base dna
summer helm
Still, I think Echidna remains the cause of all this
It makes the most sense story wise
wary osprey
the cause of the break out most likely
wary osprey
also it's best to remember every single dino strain was developed to be a weapon of some sort.
summer helm
True. That's why I call Echidna and the others Pure strains
they are literally derivative work
or..the base of it
summer helm
I think when you see a hypo rex, you see a rex infused with the Colossus's DNA
wary osprey
for there the base for every other strain animal
summer helm
Well, obviously
also, the reason I call them Pure is they exhibit their Strain's powers the most incredibly
like Colossus's size and strength
wary osprey
however pure is subjective to the animal in question it's most likely the strain boots the traits the there originators had boosted there for making them a pure hyper rex.
summer helm
I suppose the best way I think of this is Warhammer 40k Geneseed
wary osprey
more or less
summer helm
Funny thinking of getting to Tisso as finding geneseed
wary osprey
the reason there more powerful is likely due to the fact they evolved(at least the base dna for human or related genra) and it some what strugles with the dino dna
summer helm
That doesn't make sense though
wary osprey
the strain is looking for specif marks in the dna and the dino dna may not have the exact copy it's looking for making the mutation weaker
summer helm
They would have already been Evolved. They wouldn't be so important, and it does not explain the proliferation of their DNA which causes random wild Dinos to turn into a Strain like how we know Dondi is planning it. Further change is a impossibility. Which is why I think they were especially particular cases of genetic experimentation
wary osprey
it was adapted to be able to be infused with dino dna but still struggles with it
unlike the natural markers if had in its original hosts dna
summer helm
No...I think it's like a Virus actuallly. It's injecting the DNA, rather then struggles. Otherwise it'd be FAR FAR more wild.
wary osprey
unlikely
summer helm
No, no hear me
Look at the Hypo models and nuero models we have seen
they remain uniform, regular, symetric, and more importantly, Stable
If it had trouble, it'd be cancerous
and would be lethal
And it IS mutating a massive body
It needs to proliferate inside the body
wary osprey
no it's more like the mutation can't pull off it's full affect because the bond is not perfect but it's acceptable
summer helm
No, because you still run into the medical problem of cancer. It's not looking for Markers. That is not how mutations work
We know that the H strain creates rather regular creatures all the time
and a wild rex can become a Type H if you get enough DNA
If it was wild, you wouldn't get a stable Hypo rex every time
wary osprey
i mean the mutation replaces the original dna
summer helm
No, i think it is modifying the DNA with new markers and growth. Also that's how cells work
wary osprey
TO THE VOICE CHAT
summer helm
Cant
wary osprey
boo
sinful wraith
I'm lost now
summer helm
Z's making a case that the Strains are random and wild mutations that replace a entire genetic sequence
wary osprey
not the random or wild bit just the replacement part and only parts of it not all of it
summer helm
I am arguing that the Strains are actually a Mutagen that injects very specific new genetic markers that enforce the change into a strain
You can't just replace parts of DNA
sinful wraith
and what do you think this means:
Olympus TransmitterBOT - 28/05/2018
//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
Start: Systems subset.
Start: Systems master set.
Start: Operations protocol.
Begin: Startup operations.
Begin: Feedback enablers.
Check: Diabloceratops injection.
Pinging loopback.
Status: In Progress.
Begin: Evaluation.
Expected: Three.
Returned: Four.
System error.
Rebooting.
summer helm
but you can add new bits
Eh..thats not lore Sim
that's reference to the the Diablo injection into survival mode
wary osprey
yup
proper steppe
It's still lore
summer helm
As far as Lore Herp, I think it's more like introducing a population to the Preserve
sinful wraith
but this is the only one with a system error
summer helm
as I said before, V3 I think is the last of 3 Island preserves off the Primary Isle
sinful wraith
look at this one:
//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION
Start: Systems subset.
Start: Systems master set.
Start: Operations protocol.
Begin: Startup operations.
Begin: Feedback enablers.
Check: Dryosaurus injection.
Pinging loopback.
Status: Success.
Start: Replication.
summer helm
part of why the facility isnt totally out of control I think
proper steppe
Pretty sure we haven't seen the end map, v3 probably doesn't connect to the end game at all
sinful wraith
and the diablo one:Start: Systems subset.
Start: Systems master set.
Start: Operations protocol.
Begin: Startup operations.
Begin: Feedback enablers.
Check: Diabloceratops injection.
Pinging loopback.
Status: In Progress.
Begin: Evaluation.
Expected: Three.
Returned: Four.
System error.
Rebooting.
wary osprey
there were unsuccessful as there could no travel far enough fast enough with the stam they had. therefor they were reintroduce with more stamina
sinful wraith
the expected 3 are dryo maia and dibble
but what's the returned 4
they leaked it that way for a reason
summer helm
No, I stated in a bit of the lore Herp that 3 islands are named. 1, 2 and 3. if V3 is Island 3, then Isla Mesa is Island 1, and Region 2 is Island 2. Both of those maps are canned now, and the update listed them as Red
Red means lost, disconnected, or destroyed
wary osprey
^^
proper steppe
Or
summer helm
wrong pic
sinful wraith
failed
proper steppe
We haven't seen the final map
and you're just assuming that the placeholders we have right now connect to the lore
summer helm
Herp...re-read please
sinful wraith
but MrZ what does it say 4 returned?
proper steppe
You then stated that the maps we've already had are those islands
wary osprey
@sinful wraith there were more successful than anticipated due to care bearing
proper steppe
they could very likely be referring to locations that we have not seen, as the placeholders do not automatically transfer to the end-game lore
sinful wraith
I'll take it, but it's a really weird way to announce it
summer helm
Possible, but it's what we have as he lore drops this on us
We also know Dondi has explicitly ended those maps from the game
proper steppe
That's like trying to say the tribals need a lore reason to be wearing those Hane's underwear
summer helm
Not really.
proper steppe
they were placeholder maps, we likely haven't seen the real map
summer helm
You are still ignoring 1 fact
proper steppe
you also arbitrarily picked which maps you considered the three islands, as we have had more than three maps
so you're just assuming that placeholders aren't placeholders, and that they are apart of the lore
summer helm
There is more then 1 map reference however. Two Of the Islands are lost or discontinued. If you had to logically pick which of those 2 are discontinued, I am all ears, but 1 Map, Island 3, is Labeled as Ongoing and Go, which is what Green means
It cant be thenawy
proper steppe
We have had mesa, region 1, region 2, misty valley, v3, and v4 before Dondi even started to work on ae-001
not to mention the map in the tech demo
picking the random placeholders for maps we've had isn't that logical
wary osprey
formous I'm pretty sure you and I were arguing about was the same thing more or less because I'm pretty sure what I was trying to explain you stated after the argument was over and it was the part about a mutagen that affects genetic structures and that was more or less what I was thinking of but less virus and more like a parasite
summer helm
Lets look at them however. Of those Maps, which ones lasted longest? V4 was gone, almost immediately. Dondi had changed to work on a mystery map we now know is AE-012, which is the main isle map I wager. However, we ARE using a map called V3. Or Island 3. Lets argue that Mesa is not a map. That leaves Region 1, 2 and Misty valley. Valley had many issues, and ended up be scrapped long before v2 was, though V2 persisted due to community
Really though, this is all arbitrary
I wager V3 is Island 3 in the Tweet
and AE-012 is the Main map though well under construction
That's my bet
The real important factor I am interested in is the Disaster on the main Island. The Isle itself that the game is named for
I had typed above my initial theory of the sequential order of events that lead to the collapse of the Isle itself
proper steppe
That's like saying the tribals have such great underwear because of some trade relationship with the mercs
It very likely is a placeholder, and we haven't seen the end map that this lore takes place in
summer helm
That's just a assumption of error Herp, not a refutal
also your tribal thing is Moot
everyone knows it's a placeholder model
Maps are different beasts though
proper steppe
That's a fallacy fallacy, and no, they aren't
V3 was only brought back because people were fond of it, not because it has some arbitrary agency
summer helm
Actually..the term is called a Logical Fallacy, and No, it isn't, because it's based on the present facts.
To become a Fallacy, it must be refutable on a fundamental level
not a "This is a EA game"
wary osprey
summer helm
Anyway, whether V3 is the explicitly stated Island 3 or not is completely Moot, and can't be used to refute the statement Either. What matters is the availible lore that Dondi has provided. That being Island 3 is currently operational, or in use. I theorized Island 3 is a Preserve for the Dinos for in wilderness obersvations
We know it's a observation too from death screens and character screens
Right now, V3 fits the bill as best as it can, but I acknowledge it might also not be
summer helm
Just entertain the thought for a moment. Until you can present to me a Actual Island 3, it is as likely to BE Island 3 as it is likely not to be
Besides
you are so focused on this you missed the actual theory...
proper steppe
It's most likely not because this is an EA game, and we've already seen it done away with in the past
You have no reason to think it's v3
proper steppe
I'm not even sure if v3 was still a thing when that console stream happened
summer helm
Of the Three active islands under monitor by the Isle Facility, only 1 Island is still in a operational State that such it has not been discontinued. You harping on this is disingenuous because I have already told you that no matter what you say, whether it is or is not matters almost nothing
What matters is the main part of what I stated
the sequential order of collapse of the Isle
proper steppe
Then why say that v3 is the third island at all?
sinful wraith
cause it's theory
summer helm
Because it's the only Island where we play. Gameplay or otherwise, it's all we got, and Dondi's tweet does state 1 Island is active in this role. So that is the theory. Linking the V3 map as the mentioned Island 3
sinful wraith
Formous theory has nothing to revoke it, so we can assume it's plausible without taking it as the truth
summer helm
Now...if 2 Islands were active, then we can refute v3
sinful wraith
that's a goal of a theory and this channel
proper steppe
We also have thenyaw and have had more than 2 maps in the past, you don't need to specify v3 if v3's being specified isn't important to your theory
sinful wraith
and it's true that by looking at the main menu, we can tell it was made for obesrvation
summer helm
Thenawy was explicitly stated as not canon, as it wasn't made by the devs on dev time
It was a side project
We can rule it out
proper steppe
What about mesa through to misty_valley
you don't have evidence for v3 being the third island beyond it being playable now
Again, I'm not even sure if v3 was still playable when that console stream happened
summer helm
Islands 1 and 2 could really be any of them in all honesty. I picked Mesa because it was the very first map the Early Access could utilize
sinful wraith
there is also the evidence saying that the third island is playable
summer helm
In a sense, it really was Island 1
sinful wraith
and that when they wrote that v3 was the only island playable
proper steppe
Are you sure about that?
summer helm
Test maps before public release don't count Herp
sinful wraith
if we can't assume small things like that then all this channel is a non-sense
we can't even think about doing a theory at that point
proper steppe
When was v3 corrupted beyond playability, and when was that console stream?
summer helm
And that affects what?
proper steppe
why would v3 be the third island, in that case?
summer helm
A technical issue is also completely neglible
proper steppe
Wouldn't the third island, by your logic, be whatever island was playable at the time of that console stream?
sinful wraith
why do you want to fight so much herp
summer helm
No, not at all. I picked maps according the numerical designations that can be assigned
Simi, no
he's actually enjoying the nitpicking, because that's how lore theory works
He picks at my theory over and over
it's the method of refinement
proper steppe
We're discussing a theory, that's the point of the channel
sinful wraith
but you're debating on something totally useless
summer helm
True, I rather here about something more relevent
like what I really had been trying to get Herp to look at
sinful wraith
before tonight, every message was almost a single theory with some comments on it, now we have a 50+ messages about WHICH ISLAND MUST BE THE THIRD ISLAND REFERRED IN THE CONSOLE STREAM
summer helm
Herp as a final note, I want you to think of this. Only 3 islands are mentioned outside the Isle itself. the main map. Right now, we KNOW this map is in production. 2 Are gone. Whether mesa or region 2 matters Nothing. I state V3 though because it's our last in line officially played map before theoretically what will be the Isle truly
Island 3 is functional
Thats all we know
So it's okay to assume it could be V3
As a side note, We might see the Main map soon
proper steppe
But that would assume the console can see the future
sinful wraith
it can...
summer helm
More its the present
proper steppe
I honestly don't know if these console streams even happened while v3 was playable
summer helm
As far as the console Herp, I had my own thoughts
I think we are playing in the past right now
proper steppe
It could very well have been put out when region 2 or redwoods were out
summer helm
anyway...
proper steppe
if that were the case it wouldn't fit your reasoning
summer helm
I think when we loot at the console, we are looking at Game version 1.0's Console. That is, the Facility is gone, security is gone, and everything has run amock. However, I think when we are playing the game, it's not playing the game in a modern time
That said
we know the game takes place on the Isle
which lines up with the console's location
I think this because the tweet indicates that a Island is still operational
so its not all gone to hell yet
entirely
I think the latest lore tweet is actually taking place DURING the fall of the Isle's human research facility, rather then a repeat message from years ago
If this is true, when you go log in right now, your playing during the past
the Console is the Version 1.0's Modern day
and the tweet is inbetween
regal sundial
What generation of dinosaurs do we play as in the game? Since the lore refers to mulitiple
Also what is the purpose of the crash button in the settings
nimble flare
Dont click it out of curiousity
ancient spindle
Pretty sure it's not lore related
quartz sundial
do u guys think there is something keeping all the humans on the island? cuz theres gotta be something stopping people from just getting/making a boat and sailing away. To be fair, taking a small crummy boat across the ocean isnt a great idea but if the alternative is a place as dangerous as this island, then they might take their chances, so that leads me to believe there is something forcing everyone to stay, just to make sure that no one gets off. When the game is more complete with humans in it, i'd like to get a boat and try sailing as far as i can, just to see if theres simply and invisible wall, or something more interesting
nimble cape
maybe a mosasaur similar to saurian / that spore monster
its pretty natural and it works but then again I dont see why they would stick around the island instead of going to open sea as well
quartz sundial
yea but that isnt a sure way to stop ppl from leaving the island, im sure the mercs are there for an important purpose, so whoever wants them there probably also has a sure method to keep them there set up
maybe any craft that sails too far from it just gets destroyed by some force
like in games where u get killed for leaving the combat zone
left wigeon
I have a question, anyone have any clue what the code to Login is?
I'm pretty sure it's a case of "There's no explicit "Type here" thing, but if you type it still inputs"
Problem is, we don't know what to type
I feel like "Playback I-04" might have something to do with it
Like if there are some other numbers if we put in "04(for example)2089" it could be a birthdate of an IL admin
quartz sundial
I think its shut down at the moment, at one point there was a way to use it, but only like 2 people figured it out and didnt share it
left wigeon
Who were they? If it was just a dude on a Forum it might've been the devs trying to motivate people
Even then that's probably a good throw off, we wouldn't try if it says it's off, so if it's always off it's the perfect IL deterrent
Honestly the only reason I care is because I so badly wanna be an Alpha Carno, or Alpha Utah/Giga. I just wanna be so powerful I can run my Foster Home so efficient that I have my own adorable orphan Dino army
Once Alpha Strains are implemented, or I get to be an Alpha, we can stop it, idc. But until then we NEED to figure it out using screenshots
Can you find anything on what the login was like before it shut down?
quartz sundial
again i might be wrong here, this was a while ago and i dont remember all the details, but i dont believe they ever came forward? also alphas arent a thing, i think you're talking about Hyper strains? (the really big powerful ones with super fast hunger-decay)
which are also called type-H
@icy onyx i forget, did you have any kind of access to the Login button? or was that something else, i remember you had access to something
past trench
Someone had access to that?
quartz sundial
thats what im asking
nimble cape
Or maybe there is some kill switch on the mercs that limits them to the island
forcing them to finish whatever their job is or die trying
left wigeon
Keyboard lighting?
Hmmm...
Sorry btw, someone was talking to me. And yeah that's what I mean
Hyper is weird to me
past trench
Yeah I was bored and went through the files
left wigeon
Alpha just rolls off the tongue easier
quartz sundial
@left wigeon might wanna check out the pinned messages too (top right) since theres a link there to all the lore stuff people have gathered so far
nimble cape
Keyboard lighting can be keybinded to certain things in games
left wigeon
Alright, thank you
nimble cape
so you get visual feedback through your keyboard lights
left wigeon
Is the Keyboard lighting stuff with the pinned?
quartz sundial
still tho might wanna call it by its real name so ppl know what ur talking about
left wigeon
It might corelate to something
Well they should be able to infer tbf,
When you say "Alpha" it's obviously not "Old" because Old is... Well, old
past trench
Yeah the file is called Apollo engineering .chroma
left wigeon
So it's with the Lore stuff? For sure?
nimble cape
¯_(ツ)_/¯
left wigeon
Sorry lol, I just wanna crack dis code
past trench
Is it a razor keyboard?
left wigeon
It could correlate to something, like if it goes to certain colors, like how say a light green could be "#132", if it's on certain colors we could try them or see if they fit into a code
There are alot of ciphers that use numbers
past trench
okay
left wigeon
lol it's worth a shot
nimble cape
dont care 
left wigeon
There've been far longer shots scored in ARG/ARG-like things
I didn't say you had to do it, I'm just saying I'mma do it since it's worth a shot
nimble cape
If you guys figure something out and need a colored keyboard then tag me but whatevs
past trench
Yeah sure
left wigeon
Alright, thanks
I see some weird barb or something on the Triangle of login, I'mma check that out and see if it's one of those things where there's a message hidden inside of a ton of pixels
I forget what it's called but it's used alot in these sorts of things
past trench
Yeah it looks like the .chroma file is for keyboard lighting so it could have a message inside of it
left wigeon
Yeah, let me check it out
I can't find the .chroma file. Do you know where it is on the Website?
past trench
it’s not on the website it’s in the isle game files
past trench
I can’t quite remember. But I know it’s not in the red list folder
nimble cape
left wigeon
Okay, in the Chroma file there were a bunch of Chinese and weird other characters, aswell as tons of spaces. Once I took out the spaces this is what I got
馚㺙 ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ 馚㺙 馚㺙 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 翿 馚㺙 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 㽿 馘㺙 馘㺙 畿畿畿畿畿畿畿畿畿畿畿畿馘㺙 馘㺙 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 缀 馘㺙 ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ ÿ 馘㺙 馘㺙 ÿÿ ÿÿ ÿÿ ÿÿ ÿÿ ÿÿ馘㺙缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀缀 馘㺙 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ 馠㺙
I'm gonna translate it but encase someone sees anything with it lmk
past trench
What if the squares are letters
left wigeon
If it's gibberish try combining some of it into one word
sharp frigate
I don't think the chroma is anything relevant.
sharp frigate
Chroma is a keyboard integration service
left wigeon
Yeah, but it's a Dev's keyboard and it says "Random Keyboard"
It's also with the other important Lore files as a Chroma
sharp frigate
If you have the Razer Chroma Blackwidow, the game is supposed to light up your keyboard when events happen in-game
past trench
Huh
left wigeon
Yeah, I know, but there was also the (something) Research with the files
Like Apollo Engineering.Chroma
Sorry, it was Engineering not research
left wigeon
maybe. I have the original and the one I'm about to remove the blank squares
Let me know if you find anything with the Morse Code
past trench
Ok
left wigeon
Good luck
past trench
the language is chinease
does: Fén Fén dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào fén mean anything
that was the first small aprt
left wigeon
Idk, try translating it
past trench
part
left wigeon
Double G Translations aren't good but it's the best we can do until we find someone who can directly translate
left wigeon
Huh, try removing/spacing on some different things
Because I have "Embellishment" a bunch of times atm
past trench
yeah
left wigeon
I'm not done though tbf
left wigeon
Alright, I have all the squares and shit removed, I'm gonna start experimenting with layouts
past trench
im getting mauri now?
left wigeon
Huh, what's it say?
past trench
i think the squares are morse
past trench
the squares... the spacing
left wigeon
I mean I don't know how to turn it into English
Like I don't know what A or B in Morse is
past trench
ok
left wigeon
This doesn't seem like random translation gibberish..
left wigeon
Yeah, it could just be a clever pun like "I SEE A CONSPIRACY IN THIS MESS- Oh wait"
But it could also be another clue
left wigeon
Yes, Vietnamese. Try experimenting with this
Rén rén rén dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào dào fén guó guó juó guó zhuì zhuì zhuì gzhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì guó guó guó guó zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuì zhuìuó hān
I got some weird shit like "Snooping on the edge of the abyss" and "On the edge of the woods" and "On the boulder"
past trench
what if the different laguages create a clue
left wigeon
Maybe if we check out those areas, like the mountains, or in a big woods, or a big rock area, on the official servers, we can find some secret message
Yes- try translating that, see what you can find, and copy/paste everything you find in every language
past trench
ok
left wigeon
I'll keep trying but GT is starting to "Not respond" which is probably just because of the ridiculous number of Zhui's lol
past trench
remember that the other clues were either vietnamease or chinease
left wigeon
Yeah, that could have something to do with it
past trench
have you tried Japanese yet?
left wigeon
No, let me check when I'm done with Vietnamese
I need to take a break, I hurt really bad
but I'll keep mulling it over
past trench
@left wigeon did you get something about trees swaying and beach wood
plain gale
google translate 👌
past trench
do you know Chinese or Vietnamese?
past trench
damn
past trench
hi im back so i translated the Vietnamese words again and i got this: Bean fern is the most abundant and abundant of ferns in Vietnam.
left wigeon
Hey, sorry peeps. Had some problems
but yeah I got Swaying too, something about Swaying on the abyss aswell as the Forest
Let's try checking forr what? Abysses, the edge of the woods, and boulders
left wigeon
If we find anything look for it. Try finding the biggest stretches of forest or boulders, I'll go for the abyss and look for them on the way
No, but I haven't gotten to experiment with it yet
I just got the first ones and had to do it when I got back, which was just now
past trench
ima look in the game files for anything promosing
past trench
carno
past trench
go utah so you can jump
left wigeon
Alright, cool.
Try the official servers if you do, since if anywhere is gonna hold secret stuff it's probably the Official servers
past trench
found another chroma file
left wigeon
Which one?
left wigeon
Btw make sure to write down what we/you find
past trench
i have been
left wigeon
Like the "Swaying" and stuff
YUS
Let me check the Chroma.xml, might help our scavenger hunt
past trench
got it
left wigeon
Got what?
past trench
ˇ<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <application> <title>The Isle</title> <description>The Isle Game</description> <author name="Razer" contact="http://dev eloper.razer zone.com/chro ma/"/> <device_supported keyboard="1" mouse="1"headset="1"mousepad="1"keypad="1" chromalink="1"/> <category game="1"/></application> thats whats on the .xml file
its not much
left wigeon
I saw that too, I'm trying to save my files with the translations rn
left wigeon
Check the "Razer zone", because I could be wrong but that doesn't sound like a normal website name
past trench
possibly
left wigeon
They definetly are my dude. Especially after "Apollo Engineering"
past trench
wait a mod? talking
sharp frigate
apollo engineering is just the name of the keyboard profile
sharp frigate
left wigeon
<_<
past trench
ok
left wigeon
Let's keep checking, with those translations there might be something
But I've seen people talking about the Apollo Engineering
It's probably not like, an Isle-Made company or something but it could be a lead
They could've named a company IL after it and used it as part of the hunt for all we know
It's worth it to keep trying, since it's the closest and best thing we have to a lead at the moment
sharp frigate
nope
past trench
damn
left wigeon
h*cking flip
Dw, let's keep looking
Like I said, check the Official Servers for any Boulders, vast forests, or "Abysses"
I'd imagine the Abyss is the ocean or rivers
And you have to use camera angles to look through the murky water
past trench
buoyant heart
squint*
left wigeon
lol
What's that pic from?
I see letters and faces, maybe if we fuck with the brightness, contrast etc and put it through a decoding programing we can find something
buoyant heart
wait I have photoshop O_o
left wigeon
Pls fuck with the brightness and contrast until the letters are clearly visible
buoyant heart
can do
left wigeon
Cuz I see letters and other stuff but it's dark as hell
buoyant heart
gimme a bit
buoyant heart
uwu
left wigeon
lmk when ya donezo budzo
Btw add me you two, Sinkmeat. If you can't find me message me your IDs
It'll be easier to go on hunts for stuff if we can group together and talk
Found anything?
buoyant heart
hm yeah im not gettin much
left wigeon
Send me the pic
buoyant heart
jsut a bunch of letters
left wigeon
Yeah, it's probably code or needs to be re-arranged
past trench
yeah its from the laoding screen
left wigeon
Yeah, take a screenshot of it
buoyant heart
best I could do
left wigeon
Cntrl + Alt + PrintScrn
Thanks 😃
Let me go through it, see if there's anything to it
past trench
no signal found
buoyant heart
tried to get the text as clear as I could
left wigeon
Thank you, we appreciate it a ton
past trench
right in the middle
buoyant heart
looked at the layering couldnt see anything
buoyant heart
ill look a lil longer see if I find anything
actually
you guys have the death screen?
past trench
also funny the letters on the side is DNA
left wigeon
Genes are made up of it
left wigeon
Really?
buoyant heart
hmmm would really like to have a look at it mmm
left wigeon
Add me, we can go into a server, group, one of us kills the other, and we can screenshot it
Hello?
past trench
hi
ebon basalt
Fun fact: there are fragmented sentences/phrases hidden in the startup screen's DNA code
past trench
yeah
in the death screen at the bottom left someone messages you
im trying to find that
i cant find it in the game files
buoyant heart
die ingame and take a few screen shots
past trench
ok please send
left wigeon
Can you turn up the brightness and contrast like on the other pics?
left wigeon
Sorry, wus getting c o m f e r z
buoyant heart
it says network disconnect detected
buoyant heart
cannot identify carrier signal
left wigeon
And if there're any images it'll be MUCH easier to say
buoyant heart
system efficiency 15 perecent
past trench
we need more death screen shots
buoyant heart
kkk
left wigeon
Yeah, should we go as Humans?
nimble cape
really old news
left wigeon
Maybe if we activate some Building satellites as humans it'll help
ebon basalt
nimble cape
👏
left wigeon
We don't have any good, bright screenshots of it
buoyant heart
😮 thanks ;3
past trench
ah thanks
buoyant heart
Thermal imaging engaged
Local heat signature identified
Deploying Counter Measures
what does that mean
o-o
left wigeon
Maybe there's a missed rocket or something somewhere?
Maybe that message about the Abyss is saying to check a message in the ocean
Maybe the message is on a rocket or something
buoyant heart
o-o
left wigeon
I know this is pure speculation, but that's just my first reaction
buoyant heart
hm mine is that after you die another dino is located via heat signature
past trench
why a rocket?
buoyant heart
e-e
past trench
here look at this it's on the lore page
left wigeon
When I think of a "Counter measure" that has thermal imaging I think of Heat Seeking Missiles
past trench
buoyant heart
what is that
past trench
dunno but its on the page
buoyant heart
on what page
left wigeon
hmm
buoyant heart
o-o
left wigeon
How about this
One of us go Merc, one of us go Tribal Human, and one of us go utah
we look for messages on Boulders, in the "Abyss, or on the edge of forests
left wigeon
It'll likely be ON something, so look for that
If you find anything suspicious in a suspicious environment let the others know
And a human can come check it out
Like people said earlier, the Mercs must be here for some reason, and if it's something to do with the Satelites that're h*cked up that need to be triangulated it might need to be reactivated
It says "signal lost", talks about deactivated Satellites, and says to look in 3 places, it's probably gonna be on a Satellite now that I think about it
past trench
hey so you know the tisso strain
past trench
the tissoplastic strain
left wigeon
No
buoyant heart
yeah
left wigeon
Rly now?
past trench
Not much is known about the tisoplastic strain. Dondi mentioned that it was supposed to be the "assassin" of the strains. They would be able to change colors and camouflage in order to stalk their prey. The tissoplastic strain is not currently in the game.
left wigeon
Interesting
past trench
thats from the page
left wigeon
Yeah?
past trench
it could possibly be talking about a tisso strain hunting them?
left wigeon
Maybe, maybe someone is being hunted in the woods by a Tisso and that's why it said "HELP ME!"
We'd probably only find a corpse.. But
past trench
buoyant heart
oh
left wigeon
Let's fire up The Isle, I wanna try something out
past trench
look at the bottom
left wigeon
Again, pls add me, this plan won't work if we're trying to communicate through global or Discord
past trench
ok so we now know the doctors name
left wigeon
Yeah
past trench
Dr.Rodrigo
left wigeon
Have you added me?
past trench
i cant play sorry
past trench
but i found the doctor
past trench
in the hypo tisso and neuro images which then show his name which is then only refrenced once on this loading image
left wigeon
Probably behind the Hypo strains
I'll explore as a Merc, see if I get anything new or interesting
past trench
and the tisso neuro and magna
left wigeon
In the meantime let's call off the search- unless you find something real good, and make sure to write down everything we have right now
past trench
ok
left wigeon
I'll talk to you later, add me when you can
past trench
ok will do
left wigeon
Well, hopefully not later. Hopefully soon, cuz that means you found something good lol
past trench
so gen 1 of all the creatures are the base creatures. gen 2 is probabily the magna stage becasue of the increased intelligence and size and gen 3 is hypo stage which is complete loss of control
left wigeon
So, basically, the virus from planet of the Apes but for Dinosaurs
lol but for real, thanks, that'll probably help alot
I'mma start looking
past trench
ok
left wigeon
Fuck me, have a .7 Carno
Damnit, so much lost progress
There's some weird shit by the Ocean and Jagged Islands, there's weird formations, one almost looking like a bunker covered in dirt
past trench
ok
left wigeon
like it honestly looks like the BoS Bunker from FONV
past trench
are you on AE-001
past trench
its a map
past trench
yeah nah
left wigeon
Can any other Dinos jump btw?
Prefferably an Herbi since I'll be running around alot and I don't wanna be killing things while also asking people to chill and be nice
past trench
ummm dryo galli
left wigeon
So go Galli?
left wigeon
Fuck yes
left wigeon
Reading
left wigeon
Holy shit I think I found something aswell
On the main page, in the bottom left, there's a lot of flashing
I think it's morse
past trench
i think the main start menu is the terminal which we are reading
left wigeon
Also, there's a brief "Static" interruption. In the video it whites out and goes to another clip, we should check if there's anything else
What about the bottom left?
Tried logging in
past trench
what did it say
past trench
hold on?
past trench
yeah
left wigeon
We should catch more of those and see if there's anything in them
past trench
i dont think there is
left wigeon
Not in that one, might be in others
Could also be hidden behind Brightness or Contrast
It'd be a GREAT place to hide a secret message
Ya gotta think like the Devs
past trench
so someone has admin and has blocked the login because of all the data on the strains and the poeple conduction them
left wigeon
Yeah
Also what's with the "Zetsubou"
I might be wrong but wasn't one of the things earlier like that?
like "Zaobo"
Not that but you get it
past trench
wait
left wigeon
I think it WAS Zetsu and I saw it with a "bo" at one point in translation, which I know cuz that's my name IRL and I was like "oh hey that's neat" lol
past trench
I.D khorne
left wigeon
Page 2 of what?
past trench
guess what one of the testers is called
past trench
of the document
left wigeon
Why're there a ton of "New users" with different sized "New user" pics with slightly different shading named Zetsubou on the list
past trench
dunno
left wigeon
lmao "ZetsuBOI 😂 "
I gotta do the search tomorrow, I'm tired as shit
We have the I.D... Now for the password
left wigeon
Let's figure it out tomorrow
past trench
yeah
left wigeon
If we figure it out maybe if we do something with the devs or testers, like send them the User and Pass they'll open it up temporarily for us
Who knows
past trench
he can only sumbit inquires
past trench
haha sure
left wigeon
Idk, we can figure it out tomorrow. Like I said, keep track of everything. You don't know what seemingly miniscule thing can become a MASSIVE lead
Gn man, again, thank you a ton for the help
past trench
no problem
regal sundial
You know I wonder if the blinky main menu lights are morse code
proper steppe
Khorne would be referring to @icy onyx
Was really deep into the lore when it first started coming out, got to be in a console stream
icy onyx
yeet
proper steppe
They're at least trying to uncover more clues instead of making up their own theories
dunno who the second guy in the console stream was, though
regal sundial
Are the two people that've been on the streams the two people dondi claims got close to logging in?
proper steppe
Maybe?
regal sundial
What if really none of the lore matters and it's really just RNG sifting through steam IDs
proper steppe
That would be pretty coincidental that it selected Khorne, then
past trench
So was that a positive for khorne
edgy pike
I thought Khorne got selected because he beat Dondi in a 1v1 on For Honor
Wait that might have been for something else
@icy onyx was it?
strong patio
icy onyx
@left wigeon I ve found the word "SEEKING" on that bright screen what Bowseroppo worked on. Imma look for more words.
"APOLLO"
icy onyx
Send it here
sweet zephyr
WHY NO REAL APOLLO FAKE SEEK PERFECT ACTION ONELDANS IMPOSSIBLE DREAM NOW SICK JOKE DYING FOREVER
found this some time ago, couldn't get anywhere
icy onyx
Hmm
"No real apollo" "fake seeking" "perfect action" ..
We should look somewhere else
We should see what does mean the death scene.
The words you sent mean something..
icy onyx
Yea
This words match in like sentence for m
Impossible dream maybe means the strains. Now sick joke bc they took the power and the 3 the most powerfull rule everything.
Dying forever- mercs are trapped on the isle somehow they cant escape
Why no real apollo fake seek perfect action.. maybe means that mercs have a quest to put down the 3 powerfull monsters but they cant get that right.
sweet zephyr
what
icy onyx
Read again. Sadly English is not my first language so idk how to explain.
sweet zephyr
Dying forever likely has nothing to do with mercs.
Impossible dream, someone's dream, perhaps.
Or someone's gradiose idea.
icy onyx
Yep
I mean the dr
Opps not here
Maybe it was a Rodrigo Vega dream about the powerfull dinosaurs or human hybrids who would help in human war. It turned to a sick joke because dr Vega decided to run mercs on surveys and survival observation. And know the mercs ate trapped on the island with deadly creatures. Ah that teory lol.
are^
edgy pike
@sweet zephyr I think what Zinama is trying to say is that the character Dr. Vega mentioned in files wanted to use dinosaur/strains etc. for military purposes but he went a bit mad and power hungry, trapping humans on the island?
sweet zephyr
I doubt so.
edgy pike
Which I don't think has that much evidence to back up
sweet zephyr
not what it seemed like from the picture we got
icy onyx
Exacly what I wanted to say @edgy pike
edgy pike
@icy onyx Well there isn't anything mentioned about Vega being a mad scientist, or anything about what he did on the island, so I doubt it is true
past trench
Wow a lot has happened
icy onyx
Well it is just a theory lol
regal sundial
A GAME THEORY
dense moat
left wigeon
ikr. Glad people kept the search going lol
I'm gonna look with a Utah in the world now that I'm up
proper steppe
There's still plenty of clues we haven't solved on Taterfi's site
left wigeon
Yeah, you guys work on those. I'll look in the world
We have alot of evidence, enough to say there's probably something hidden in the world
proper steppe
We do?
proper steppe
Examples?
left wigeon
Tons of stuff talking about lost signals, one message from someone saying "HELP ME!" JUST before the signal is lost, meaning someone would have to be by a satellite to send a message, messages in a Chroma file about swaying/looking on the edge of the "Abyss" (Which imo means Ocean), by a Boulder, and on the edge of the forest
I think there's more I just don't remember atm to be honest
proper steppe
Most of those sound like they could be happening off of the map, but I don't think I've seen the abyss thing
left wigeon
Btw are there any programs that can edit the Map files? I have Game Studio 8 but idk if that's the best for it
It was last night with the translating
It could easily be a clue though
Boulders, Ocean, and a forest. That's what we need to start looking
And boy howdy do we have those
Afterall, the Mercs must be there for an important reason. Trying to find a rogue scientist or someone who escaped into a forest, and transmitted a help message? Right before the satellite went off?
proper steppe
What exactly did the abyss thing say?
left wigeon
I forget, but I know for sure it said "Swaying on the edge of the abyss" and I think "Looking/Looking on the edge of the abyss"
Nice Garry has it all written down
looking down*
past trench
Yeah
past trench
What if the abyss is a cave? It would make sense to take that information literally maybe it’s talking cannibals and they’re coming into the game sooner that expected and the mercenaries are warning ya not to go onto the island
Think about all the work on the new map with the cave systems and the cannibal statues
And the waterfall. Could that be an abyss which could hide something
twin vale
i mean, there's literally almost nothing on record about what the humans are doing here.
icy onyx
true
past trench
Ok
icy onyx
Are you sure the game is happening in modern times? the moon is pretty damn close
that's the kind of Moon you'd see... several millions years ago, if you catch my meaning >.>
past trench
There’s humans with guns
proper steppe
Hasn't it been said that the game takes place in the not-so-distant future?
Maybe the game takes place in space
we just didn't know
More than one explanation for a large moon, which we don't even know is permanent
twin vale
aesthetics
covert chasm
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Dondi say something about fixing the large moon on his stream?
misty zealot
It was indeed said that Isle is not too far in the future.
And yeah nothin completly revealed about what the Mercenares are doin on the Island.
Other than of course... they were hired to do something
It's rather odd though.
Considering the deathfest Isle's goin to be, it'd be awfull expensive and wasteful for a Mercenary company to take on a contract to drop Mercenaries on the Island
Or rather, "mini merc" companies considering it's FFA
But yeah nah, sounds like awfull fuckin job to take on.
You can buy a new gun, but replacing a good mercenary with a rookie aint the same.
It's all falling to game logic really only it seems.
Wonder who the PMC(s?) are, and why they'd have such a high expense.
Whatever they're ment to do on the Isle, it's got to be mighty fuckin important
vernal crag
They could be getting sent there with a lie.
AE could want them to do their dirty work, and the mercenaries have no idea what they are walking into.
icy onyx
The first mercenaries (with the AE armor) seemed really well equipped but nothing a dinosaur could handle
Couldn't *
vernal crag
True. Maybe all they know is they are walking into a Dangerous situation
icy onyx
They seem equipped to handle other mercenaries
like @misty zealot said it's probably a ffa to get the dinosaurs or some shit
misty zealot
The best assesment i could make is that there are multiple contractors and multiple pmc's fighting for a big price
regal sundial
Sort of like ingen vs biosyn sort of deal maybe
misty zealot
Each player group simulating a mercenary pmc or squad
regal sundial
AE trying to recontain or gather samples of the dinos
With other mercenaries trying to poach them of their prize
icy onyx
Isn't AE fuckin dead?
regal sundial
Not sure
icy onyx
They seemed to be fucked during the transmissions
Pretty sure they either died or turned to cannibals
regal sundial
Surely their entire company wouldn't be based off the island
What with executives
And investors
proper steppe
I'm sure some escaped
We're just hearing from the poor souls who are still trapped on the island
placid harness
I wonder if AE is some sort of Government subsidiary.
Loading screens make references to some helipad used for only government officials.
rigid dome
any ideas on what the new allo killer might be?
amber fox
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rigid dome
i mean Alberto could be a contender as well
rigid dome
and what would that be?
tacit plank
The first Fisher to be added to survival.
rigid dome
i meant the bonebreaker lol
rigid dome
i meant what is the bonebreaker in the game other than t-rex since that is being removed
tacit plank
Still t rex because that's its thing.
rigid dome
its prob more likely now since rex is being removed from survival
severe lark
Probably not
tacit plank
Apexes have a good chance of remaining as playables.
Thanks to their numbers significantly decreasing.
The only issue now is trike.
proper steppe
This doesn't seem like the type of theories suited for here, this is more about next dino less about lore
unless the next dino is a magna or something
analog halo
proper steppe
I notice that the hyper carno is supposedly created through forced evolution
Does that change anything?
sweet zephyr
Nay.
proper steppe
I think that might rule out hypers being made in labs
sweet zephyr
simply supports the fact that all strains are made rather than mutated
proper steppe
Selective breeding is technically forced evolution, that doesn't occur in a lab
proper steppe
I think this rules out hypers being created in labs in giant tubes or whatever
primal carnage style
icy onyx
So you think they took a random dinosaur and forced its evolution?
sweet zephyr
forced evolution could happen by obviously forcing the animal to adapt to something.
adding what causes the transformation to the dinosaur IS forced evolution.
proper steppe
I don't think hypers are being made in anything like that one Primal Carnage trailer thing
sweet zephyr
it would never be able to contain them.
proper steppe
If it's forced evolution
Who's to say the hypers were necessarily made to be hypers?
I've seen that theory floating around a lot
sweet zephyr
They coulve been an acident
a tad strange, though.
If it was an accident they would likely have to figure it out the hard way, and if they weren't able to contain them then they wouldn't have made more of them.
So I do believe they were at least forced to turn into hypers.
proper steppe
I don't think the hypers and magnas and such have the same relationship that many people are assuming
sweet zephyr
we know the magnas are Purposeful.
they were made.
the hypers and neuros, we do not know, really.
warped coral
👀
sweet zephyr
👀
icy onyx
cue thousand life contract
cinder atlas
Maybe Mercenaries/Tribals are the products of Star Wars-esque Clone Trooper cloning productions? You gotta think that people going into this death-island probably aren't keen on volunteering to deal with all the creeps, crawlies, and kaiju-things. Unless they're riding into the valley of death as an unaware group, as suggested by some of the old Dossiers. Or maybe the lack of briefing for expendable clones is intentional, for some reason, if that lines up.
cinder hound
It could also probably explain the tribal population. Assuming that they are or once were natives of those islands. In their current state I doubt any kind of human settlement would be able to survive without being wiped out by the other "inhabitants" of the Island.
cinder atlas
And if those things also line up, would that open the potential for tribal culture to have some sort of respect/worship for technological facilities that spit out new Tribals? Thinking of Horizon: Zero Dawn's "All Mother" type deal.
cinder hound
I feel like that could also lead into some kind of worship or "respect" towards creatures like the Cannibals or Echidna
cinder atlas
Perhaps instead of making mechanical mockeries, it's experimented with the real deal? Anomalies and errors create these accidents which are then furthered upon by lab personal?
cinder hound
Oh of course, I'm just speculating.
icy onyx
apart from burning effigies
I suppose a lot of this worshiping of superior powers could just be dictated by how players want to rp
cinder atlas
It's just a theory.
icy onyx
Id be really unhappy if the isle kinda pushed that onto players like conan did
proper steppe
What haven't we solved so far?
cinder hound
Now that I think about, dosn't the whole burning technology with eiffigies just kinda clash with the theory of them worshipping facilities?
icy onyx
tribals burn technology?
cinder hound
Wasn't that thrown around on stream?
cinder atlas
I think a better question would be: What do they see as alien technology and what is familiar?
cinder hound
They stealing shit from mercs and burning it?
proper steppe
Have we solved anything regarding the C C H?
icy onyx
@cinder atlas somewhat abandoned facilities are already present around the map, so we can assume they're familiar with some modern tech
not necessarily what it does
cinder hound
@cinder atlas You mean like that one quote about them not being able to distinguish magic from technlogy?
icy onyx
just "oh yeah I've seen that cube looking glowy thing before"
cinder atlas
Mhm.
hearty mulch
It'd b funny if the tribals took over a facility and used the tech to incorporate themselves into the Big-Profile-Replicator system so they could survive
outer hull
Those are some weird transmissions
Anyone else see them yet?
Not even tied in with messages being sent
More like quotes
ebon basalt
For the moment I'm assuming that "the man you owe cannot collect his debt" is referring to The Creator being deceased.
Maybe.
proper steppe
The first part seems like it's telling us to stop making theories from what very limited clues we have, and to instead find more clues so we can look at things without guessing so much
regal sundial
That's a believable interpretation
I've seen a lot more theorycrafting in here than people investigating the available material
👀
tacit plank
sinful wraith
what are the available materials
icy onyx
Olympus transmitter has turned into quite the poet
sharp frigate
These are cryptic as fuck
sweet zephyr
Look to the sky at the right time. The path to gateway has been there all along.
I swear gateway has popped up before
sharp frigate
grave dove
its gotta have something to do with the planets aligning
sharp frigate
Talkin bout that daughter storyline shit?
raw olive
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