So the Cannibal looks very alike this creature
https://youtu.be/7Cxs8fX18k0?t=22
I feel like the cannibal was inspired by this
#isle-lore-theories
icy onyx
queen nest
First time noticing this lol, i guess I never go down here. Tribal painting :3
sinful sable
@icy onyx there's multiple things that are like the Cannibals. And it's been compared to that by Dondi before so.
ancient spindle
Where do you see a tribal painting
dull falcon
I think those are supposed to be cracks in the rocks
last charm
I was gonna say, am I blind cause I don’t see any paint
high heath
So...uh...anyone got strain theories?
icy onyx
Nothing really out of the ordinary, in the way that you prolly heard about it anyway
high heath
I keep thinking they are Manmade balance to Nature.
icy onyx
Gotta wait to see what the reworks of Tisso and Neuro will be
river marsh
We know man is kind of shit at attempting to balance nature. Strains I'm sure are not made for that complex/simple of a purpose. They are genetic military weapons. Hypos are essentially the Killswitch. Neuros, I think, will be the AOE tech disable types given neuro spinos abilities, and the tisso may be a genetically altered dinosaur pushed to the absolute limits of hunting capability. Likely used for asassinations. Just give it a scent and it will ruthlessly hunt down its target. The tricky part might be in keeping it locked onto it's target so it doesn't attack other things.
I can see them tinkering with the hormones female animals get with young and then converting that aggression into a focused point. It's partly why the matriarch seems so scary because you do not fuck with a pissed off mother's baby. Stick that in a tisso and they'd hunt you to the ends of the earth
high heath
I mean, the Hypos are literally made to eat everything until they die. Kill off overpopulating animals, then dies. Numbers climb back up, a new Hypo appears.
hearty mulch
Somehow i feel the strains are a sort of furthering of the torch from what op inferno brought into possession
Or something
raw olive
Hypos are likely high kill rate weapons that do not have to manually be taken down
rustic urchin
may be way off, but hades protocol sounds something cannibal related, because we've been told the cannibals reside underground, just like the god of the underworld.
arctic rune
Is /nick a thing on this server? I have the wrong name lmao
high heath
Hades is related to underground and death.
icy onyx
But it talks of releasing demons in the sky
which- demons reside in the underworld
so like the releasing of the h-quetz?
tiny carbon
Well, phantoms is what it said. So people are taking off with invisible things, like the tisso strain's supposed ability
misty zealot
sinful sable
Steath bombers gonna Napalm The Isle?
Perfect close out to a JP inspired game.
BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
formal zodiac
sweet oriole
it'd be more clever if the drop cages on spawn looked like lootboxes for giggles
half sinew
Not really a theory
Probably belongs more in #401470471750811669 or #401464048610312195
raw olive
Actually, the firebomb idea isn’t totally out of it, the percentage could be the percentage of how many “Isles” have been attacked
hearty mulch
it would be funny if neuros started to collectively mess with climate systems and use them to actively kill stuff thus having phantoms in sky
that or neuro astral projections to find lore
stoic gale
supple dome
im thinking that new thing is either human weapons or the deino
arctic swift
that's optimistic. I would say it's Utah's pounce
serene wadi
Honestly the more it is delayed the better
If it was shown, people would be freaking out and the devs would want to get that thing out as soon as possible
(Sorry for being off-topic)
high heath
Wait...Tartarus is a prison for the Titans in Greek myths.
Such as Kronos.
So...the Strains are the titans of this Island. AE tried to contain them in labs (Tartarus), until they broke free and started wreaking havoc on the natural ecosystem of the island.
Maybe AE is sending Mercs in try and put them back into "Tartarus"? Collecting samples, capturing and holding strains. Maybe even killing them?
tiny carbon
food for thought here, but We all assume that Type-H and Type-N are Hypos and Neuros, and that's generally accepted, but then what's with the loading screen that says something about size issues with 'new' Type-M's? Unless it's a typo, that could be something to think about.
It's on the loading screen that talks about treading water
tiny carbon
For some reason that didn't occur to me, but it talks about size issues as well. Weren't they going for a big strain that could handle the Hypos?
What are the issues?
sinful sable
Maybe they are shrinking Magnaraptor so Hyper Utah is your big bad boyo.
And Magna is your slightly smaller tracker boyo
tiny carbon
I understand that they're size issues, but how does the magna have size issues? The only way I can see that is if they didn't know it couldn't be as big as a hypo to be an effective replacement
If they didn't know that the size and metabolism was the fault of the hypos, then why would they create something to fix those issues?
icy onyx
Perhaps the size issues refer to it not growing fast enough, or too fast, or even the first few subjects we're either too big or too small, it's vague
upbeat sorrel
I wonder, will the Cannibals and tribals be based on the cannibals from The Forest?
hearty mulch
it would be nice to have a bunch of man variants to play as
wary eagle
Like Eloi and Morlocks?
nimble cape
Why would they be based off of something from another game
timber bison
weird rock texture that glow under the moon'light. Do you know what it is ? maybe iron ore ?
warped coral
no... thats just the moonlight illuminating the rocks?
also why is this in theories
placid laurel
It shouldn't be.
tiny carbon
I think it fits, I mean he's making a theory based on one of the rock textures. But Lemur is right, and it's just the way that the moonlight is bouncing off of the texture because of its Specular map. The Specular map determines essentially how much light is supposed to reflect off of any given point on the texture, and those just happen to be the spots where it's supposed to reflect the most light, and it's lining up with the moonlight just right to make it shine like that
I'm pretty sure
wary eagle
What if herbivores can only eat the blue plants because they're the only ones with lysine in them?
Jurassic park references aside, it's not a bad idea
I just like the idea because it gives me a believable reason why herbivores can only eat those specific bushes and not all the other plant life everywhere around them
fallow cove
what is the isle had a twin island, the isle is where the dinosaurs rule supreme and the other is where humans and dinos are equal
sinful sable
IIRC it's planned to have like 4 islands or something. Or even multiple islands on one map.
foggy kindle
soooo, uh
Thenyaw Island's gonna blow up, right?
I know this discord has issues with Anthomnia, but the guy does get insider information sometimes.
And his latest video suggested a potential big content update coinciding with Fallen Kingdom's release.
I just think it's weird
that the map keeps getting these small, secret geographical updates
that suggests an increase in volcanic activity.
nimble flare
Like what?
foggy kindle
Well, first thing that came was the volcano in the northeast side of the map, right?
Then we started getting geysers in the swamp.
Now there's a lava caldera in the caves.
nimble flare
I doubt it's anything
foggy kindle
Hm, maybe. Would be cool if it turned out to be something interesting. Guess time will tell.
unique current
👀
foggy kindle
And we all kinda know that Fallen Kingdom's plot revolves around a volcano erupting on Isle Nublar.
And destroying everything on it.
nimble flare
Assuming this is just another Anthomnia inspired theory, I'd say theres very little chance that it's anything
foggy kindle
Yeah it probably is. The guy loves to clickbait.
nimble flare
^
foggy kindle
Still, the caldera in the caves looks... weird though.
the surrounding ground above it looks... fractured in a way.
I also wonder about the radio tower.
Why is it the only man-made structure on the map?
Is it monitoring something? If so, then what?
I'm probably just overthinking it though.
nimble flare
probably
regal radish
Since the dinos are manmade, it would be safe to assume that most dinos have GPS devices in them and that the tower is sending their exact location to Apollo engineering's researchers/scientists/ground forces?
nimble flare
I wouldn't say that would be 'safe to assume', since that is a rather huge assumption
dull falcon
I’m pretty sure nothing in The Isle is related to Fallen Kingdom. Dondi did a whole stream on how much he hated the concept of the plot in the first trailer. If anything were to happen, The Isle might amp up its advertising during the dino craze when the movie is released.
sinful sable
He literally said that update is just "a feeling in my gut. I've been right before so obviously what I'm saying now is right" @foggy kindle
I mean yes there's probably gonna be an update around FK because DINOSAURS WILL BE HUGE AGAIN. But it will likely not be a ton of lore tossed at the island.
plain gale
anth is a trash source, why would anyone bother bringing him into the equation when talking abt isle theories lol
regal radish
Despite the click baits and the fact that people dislike him, its not the place to talk about it
plain gale
it's important to realise the difference between actual lore and well thought out theories, and a guy who clickbaits for views with misinformation 90% of the time.
tiny carbon
Going back to Unfun's theory on increased volcanic activity, I wouldn't go as far as to say that the island will explode, but Dondi has definetly stated before that Volcanos and volcano eruptions are a thing that can and probably will happen
icy onyx
@foggy kindle I like that, and the caldera in the cave used to be just 2 small lava pools, now it's one big lake
Could be a solid theory
muted steppe
So.. anyone remember the old discussions about Project Lazarus?
pastel path
dusk axle
maybe casue they thought the rex skin strain that loked like a zombie wasnt actually a sombie
icy onyx
@dusk axle The Dermatotum rex Anth featured in one of his vids?
untold siren
Thats not even official art.
dusk axle
sorry, didnt know
stark kraken
why is this in theories
nimble flare
So what's the deal with the transmissions channel right now?
I can see what's in it, but it's just twitter stuff
nimble flare
but it's just links to the twitter, and has been for ages
hearty mulch
Have only had twitter based transmissions
tiny carbon
They're posting what it says after the incoming transmission line, and then it's linked to the Twitter. Considering that Twitter has been how we've activated things in the past, is it too far fetched to say that we can interact with transmitter to send outgoing transmitions?
Transmissions*** excuse my butchering
nimble flare
idk, but I just think it is weird that there is a very secretive channel in this discord devoted to posting links to very public twitter posts
is it just me or does something seem a little weird there?
tiny carbon
I mean, it doesn't seem very secretive to me
sinful sable
you used to have to sit there and do nothing else to see one post @tiny carbon
(which of course no one did)
edgy pike
Oh shit I'm blind this was already posted
Yeah anyway, it does seem a bit odd that they kept that channel secret for so long and revealed it to be a twitter link thing
crude iris
how do you have so many servers. i only got four ;o;
edgy pike
@crude iris #401470471750811669
crude iris
sorry
fallow maple
icy onyx
Somethings either being created or being destroyed
Or executing
Either way, somethings coming
tardy python
raw olive
HADES protocol- Hyperendocrine-Acquisition-Detainment and Execution-System
sinful sable
Was this confirmed or just an idea you have
icy onyx
I'd say it does make sense, even it's just his idea
sinful sable
Why would Hades protocol be to Capture. Restrain. Then Kill it. Literally all you have to do is either capture it and keep it under control until the rest of the island is. Or capture it and let it starve
Or just kill it straight out.
sweet zephyr
We don't know how hard it is to make a hypo.
icy onyx
I think it's because the Hypo contained escaped. Meaty talked about that, though I can't remember if it was about Hades Protocol or another protocol
I but I think it was Hades
sinful sable
The way they wrote it means capture, contain, and then kill the Hyper.
Since you've already captured and contained it then why would you excute it.
icy onyx
Execution doesn't always mean kill. They might be executing some kind of program or something like that, an experiment
sinful sable
The Hades protocol is pretty likely to be happening when everything goes to shit on Tartarus.
Which means Mercs are being sent in to do something
I'd imagine everything is capture or kill. The resources to try and capture the Hypers before killing them is just...why not just kill them.
amber fox
good luck trying to capture a hypo then i guess
sinful sable
@amber fox It's called blunt force concussion or using chains? Sure they are strong but it's been brought up a fuck ton of tribals could possibly do it before.
Your sending Mercs to an island which was keeping these animals under containment for a while at least.
Surely you could scrounge up something to capture and hold it
gritty reef
Maybe “execute” means to perform an experiment...they did mention magnas are improved hypos...maybe the hypos are outdated and their turning them into magnas.
Just a thought.
sinful sable
That's some insane gene modification on a living animal. Ripping out 50% of its skeleton
And changing all its metabolic processes again
icy onyx
@gritty reef Yes, that's what I said and thought too
gritty reef
@sinful sable keep in mind that it’s hinted that nueros can control weather, I don’t think AE has a problem with major genetic changes
sinful sable
Which are all mostly additions. Not yanking out the skeleton of something you already strained
gritty reef
I guess
sinful sable
There's nothing that removed a major part of an animals biology. It's already likely a problem to grow one up into a hyper. If you shrink it down, change the color, and rip out half it's new Skeleton because of all its bone plates it grew that's just way over the top.
Plus magna have poorer healing then Hyper
gritty reef
Though there are real life procedures performed to release body mass ( these are used on elephantidus victims) so maybe it’s a confined chamber where they perform surgery and water down the strain
sinful sable
When they can just go "Hey. AI lady. Grow me a Magna would you"?
gritty reef
Though your claim does make a lot more sense 😅
sinful sable
It's pretty much been shown the AI can replicate a straight up full grown Magna
sinful sable
If replicate means it just got made because the female AI made one, released it, and it went into the Hyper containment area and killed the Hyper rex
Plus in the context Hades protocol is in it doesn't sound like they are doing experiments
Anyone have the Hades Protocol screenshot?
Pretty sure it was with the Utahs loading screen
tiny carbon
I'm no expert on cloning, but if you're going to completely change a creature but keep it's original DNA as a base (ex: the hypo, neuro, tisso), then to clone it would be taking it's DNA and starting from the ground up (so, babies). If you remember the loading screens they say gen 1, gen2, meaning that the creatures had to have time for the DNA to kick in over generations. I don't think they can very easily just replicate what they have. This takes the course of months at the least to do i believe
sinful sable
@tiny carbon you can ramp up growth times to raise strains till adults. And there's vertebraes who go through drastic skeletal changes as they grow but as I said before it's usually additions (so the boney armor in hypers)
tiny carbon
Yeah, but if you mess with growth times and take it too far then you have a higher chance for complications during growth, and yeah they have drastic skeletal changes but they don't have DNA inserted into them and then that happens like 5 minutes later is what I'm saying
sinful sable
Not like they probably care about mutations.
And it's confirmed (for humans at least)they strain out as adults
Reaper has Tissoplastic regenerative tissue implanted in it as a human and Echidna was a human subject with Neurotenic proporties.
And many of the reaper subjects died
tiny carbon
That's true, but then why do they need different generations for the dinosaurs?
sinful sable
probably a JP reference mixed with Cloning isn't perfect.
depending on how they produce the dinosaurs could have taken multiple generations to get the "soft ware" right
like how Primal Carnage changed the novaraptor three times in the lore. first one (feathered) had decent amounts die and acted odd, the "Alpha" quilled nova had most (/all) die and just wasn't great. then the Main scaled nova had acceptable death rates to continue using it
raw olive
runs back PHEW! Sorry I had to go for like 12 hours. By execute I meant another protocol, be it removing some genes to create more hypos like possibly a sort of recycling or beginning the process of sedating it to contain it
sinful sable
being this is the situation HADES was used in is why I'm saying it sounds little off.
raw olive
I did think the execute part of it sounded strange, but it was the only word that fit and as I went thinking at 1 in the morning, I assumed that the execute could be to either fully capture and sedate it so that it poses little threat or to kill it in extreme circumstances
Killing only if it escaped to the populous
But the percentage also makes sense a little better, 35% is a strange number, but the redacted text at the end of said screen above could be the code for the hyperendocrine utahraptor
If the percentage is how far along HADES has progressed, the Utahraptor for example could have been caught and is now being taken to Tartarus or is being dealt with in whatever AE is doing
sweet zephyr
Do we have any more hades screenshots ?
proper steppe
When was it said that magnas are improved hypos?
proper steppe
Clip or pics?
sinful sable
@proper steppe
proper steppe
That's so up to interpretation it hurts
sinful sable
^ there's no other way to really take it
there was minutes between Aliens, Rios, and Dondis. I would imagine Dondi would at least kinda specify if it was Aliens he was refering too.
icy onyx
there's some real aggression in theories today 😐
sharp frigate
🤔
icy onyx
anyone here know sign language?
sinful sable
I believe it's praise the sun
old memes aside when your Infomormation showing dev likes to speak in emotes and sarcasm when he isn't doing a stream or in a good mood you kinda have to take things at face value
proper steppe
"Dondi is praising the aggression in theories, clearly means that we need to be aggressive in theories all of the time"
If you're swayed by a single emote, I question how anyone here is supposed to form a stable theory
This is why we should be sticking to looking at Greek connections and codes
ancient spindle
Wrong channel
sharp frigate
As beautiful as it is it isn't an isle-theory.
ancient spindle
Unless
sharp frigate
So I've deleted it
ancient spindle
Nop
sharp frigate
keep theories serious
gentle hound
Theory: to help regulate Hyperendocrine hunger, specimens are put in cryo-sleep until eventual use.
dusk axle
why not stucking a generator in them then
sinful sable
I doubt that they could put animals into cryosleep because then why is everything breaking out.
tiny carbon
System-wide failure could be a reason
But I don't think that's likely just because we've never heard anything that even closely relates to cryosleep or anything like that (as far as I'm aware)
dusk axle
maybe kinda like rampage thinggy where the DNa capsules were lost in a strain outbreak?
icy onyx
So if there is a “corrected” form of the hypo strain, which is magna, can we assume neuro and tisso aren’t exactly the most optimal and energy efficient and need corrected forms too?
river marsh
Don't really know the cost of neuro and tisso. Hyper has hunger problems. Not sure the others will?
serene wadi
I think magna is just the furthest they could modify a dinosaur without breaking it
All the other strains have a down side
Magna was literally called "a normal dinosaur"
serene wadi
Like it's just better than its counterpart
dusk axle
magna its a counter to all strains, for the moment, magnat counters hypos, and magna rap, counters tissos, theres still a magna missing to counter neuros
icy onyx
maybe mag spino?
serene wadi
Where was it said that a specific magna dinosaur counters a specific strain?
icy onyx
^
serene wadi
As I said I think magna X is just X but better, capable of outliving and even killing X strains
sinful sable
the additions each got seem to go against a specific strain of their form.
that being the idea I doubt.
I think its just enhancing the cliche idea of the animal in question while also fixing problems some of the strains have. such as with Magnatyrannus having the ability to survive longer and take on Hypers but it's also lost the ability to super heal.
its got great heal but it doesn't have SUUUUPPPEERRR HEEEAAALL as said by the fact a group of Rexes or something could have a chance of taking down a Magnatyrannus.
serene wadi
Super heal = super hunger, so when they were making that modified dinosaur that is supposed to be efficient at living they just went "nah that's not gonna be good in the long run" and just didn't make it so.
Do we know the other strains' downsides?
sinful sable
Neuros are said to be wet bread.
and Tissos used to be said to be smaller then their (dinosaur at least) counterpart
icy onyx
that’s not a downside
serene wadi
Neuros were said to be smaller too, ended up being bigger anyway
icy onyx
if tissos are smaller it is because their stealth
dusk axle
tissos will probably have problems with daylight or neuros, and tissos will be hard to hit but easy to kill
sinful sable
they were said to be same size or slightly bigger @serene wadi
they became slightly bigger
dusk axle
while neuros are distance and cunning fighters, using brains more that brute strenght
or speed
sinful sable
@icy onyx I mean it's a downside if that means a Carno could kill a Tisso Utah if it got a drop in it
or if a gang of something could take down a Tisso Rex easier then a Normal rex
dusk axle
if the tisso rex doesnt make them levitae them off the ground and chomps them lol
sinful sable
Tisso doesn't levitate. Neuro was talked about doing that.
and it seems to have been scrapped
and it would basically be flinging around boxes and fairly small things
dusk axle
sorry, meant neuro, ma mistake
sinful sable
Tisso was meant to be built to hide well, and track insanely well.
That's pretty much all its been said to do. Maybe bleed really well but that's just a maybe since Tisso rex didn't look very Sharp. Just sleek
So I'd imagine it's built for sudden debilitating hits but not for a drawn out brawl
My bet for how a Tisso would have acted would be suddenly slamming into something. Cutting it and maybe envenomating or something. And waiting until it tries to lay down then repeat.
dusk axle
stil a carno could one bite a tisso utha, probably
sinful sable
I'd imagine it would be like 2 bites
snow solar
apologies this is so late, but re: neuros, i recall dondi mentioning on a stream that type-n creatures "aren't perfect" and gave us the annihilation bear as something to chew on. just some food for thought. might be interesting to see how/if that falls in line with our type-m critters
ancient spindle
It was teased
Just a small pic of its horns and eyes, it's on Meaty's newest video
foggy kindle
not a Doctor Who fan, but this is genuinely interesting since your link also refers to a Project Lazarus
might find something interesting in the Project Lazarus link too. http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Project_Lazarus_(audio_story)
supposedly Dondi likes to reference stuff, but even though names of the projects supposedly connect to Greek mythology only, the whole Dr. Who = Hades Protocol +Project Lazarus connection seems too coincidental.
did any of the theory/lore talk mention something about Nimrod? The name sounds familiar; could've sworn it was mentioned in a transmission or something at some point.
Because when you read the wiki leak regarding Nimrod, it gets even more interesting.
"William Abberton, or Nimrod, was the head of the Forge from its creation to its fall. On 14 October 1914, Abberton was at the Forge, experimenting on humans with a vampire virus. The vampires overpowered their creator and escaped. Abberton was mortally wounded and took the drastic step of using the Twilight formula to save his life, becoming a vampire. Abberton took the codename Nimrod and, enhanced with cybernetics and specialised weaponry, sought to hunt the vampires down and destroy them. "
Maybe it's just me, but I get heavy cannibal vibes and parallels from this.
ok last post but yeah this is waay too connected to be coincidental.
Didn't Dondi post a depiction of Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man as a clue a while ago? I think it was The Fallout 4 institute logo.
Well
"Department C4, more commonly known as the Forge, was an English intelligence organisation formed at the turn of the 19th century. The Forge's logo was Leonardo da Vinci's vitruvian man surrounded by a circle which contained the phrase "For King and Country." In 1911, the Forge commenced Project: Twilight, an attempt to create a vampire super-soldier using DNA harvested in South America. Dr William Abberton was the project coordinator. For the next four years, the Forge gathered over a hundred individuals from prisons and off the street. These test subjects were injected with vampire DNA, subjected to radiation therapy, DNA manipulation, and numerous courses of drugs. In 1917, The Forge were behind Brook's experiments on wounded soldiers to create the ultimate killers at Charnage Hospital. In the 1950s, the Forge launched Project: Dionysus with the purpose of creating a reality-warping superweapon. "
Yeah this isn't just coincidental at this point. @sudden lantern seems like you hit a jackpot. It's a fucking huge stretch, but maybe the game isn't just taking inspiration from dino media like JP, Dino Crisis or etc after all?
sudden lantern
I've seen the tweet before, but I thought that maybe you guys did something in this channel so no worth of me trying to find anything. but then I was looking through twitter and I went hmmmmm did the olympus transmitter tweet anything, no its last tweet was the hades protocol. So I thought well lets see if theres anything on google, and I just typed what is hades protocol and it was the first link. the text was talking about some kind of suicide mission
and maybe i can send it here and someone in here might find something
foggy kindle
hmm in that case, it's probably already been discussed and possibly debunked. I don't really follow much of the lore right now, but the project names and the show-to-game lore parallels are interesting. (vampires = cannibals, Forge = AE, reality-bending machine = AE replicating super computer or the possibility of The Isle being some kind of simulation, and etc.) but I doubt Dondi is a Dr. Who fan and after all of the Primal Carnage debunking it's probably just a really, really fucking unsual coincidence at this point, lol
sudden lantern
i dont follow this channel that much, i did follow it towards the end of last year bcs there was a lot of stuff being revealed, but no since its quiet I dont
and I'm guessing that my link is not going to bring anything, bcs dondi wouldnt make it that easyto find. it was the first link, even though it doesnt tell much it still does something
foggy kindle
yeah true, he wouldn't make it that easy, it most likely is just a coincidence.
sudden lantern
if we only knew what to look for, everything we got till now was just random clues, but nothing to see what we need to look for
i might just made that up or its just me bcs i dont follow this channel that much
foggy kindle
IIRC he did say we should look into Greek mythology and mythology in general, since most of the project names reference that.
foggy kindle
because Lazarus is a greek name, but the general mythology relating to the name has biblical roots instead (Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead and bringing him back to life and all of that, hence AE replicating dinos) as for why he choose greek mythology, I guess we don't really know yet
sinful sable
he could always be mixing in references from various media, mythologies, and religions
hearty mulch
we already got a thing that is basically infinite reincarnation and the hope to escape from it
Though that escape probably isn't that inclusive
short acorn
guys
explain me
whats neuro dinos
an experiment result?
or evolution just as hypos
edgy pike
Hypos did not evolve, they are a genetically engineered strain, the Neuros are another type of strain
shy basin
Not 100% on that actually, the lore mentioned neurotenic material being implanted into humans creating reapers, thisI opens the question if there are also hyper and tisso materials and if they are engineered or come from a natural source
sweet zephyr
Hm.
shy basin
Just because something seems like the obvious solution doesnt mean that it is the solution
glacial moth
hello guys
it's been a while
it's time to solve some mystries
okay so we are gonna start with taterfies google site
leaden nexus
is that 6 letters in the first box?
glacial moth
mhm
sweet zephyr
It is a start.
leaden nexus
time to dig around genus names
sweet zephyr
There is also the possibility that.
Which seems the most likely one.
it isn't genus + species
leaden nexus
the opposite?
leaden nexus
oof
sweet zephyr
When allosaurus was added did they ever mention the full name ?
It was simply, Allosaurus.
This is most likely something akin to T.Rex
Which are two words.
leaden nexus
technically it's tyrannosaurus as genus then rex as species
seeing how tarbosaurus can be swapped with tyrannosaurus for it's genus for the species bataar
sweet zephyr
You get the idea.
sweet zephyr
Do post any 4 word genus you might find.
Though I do want to mention the Magnarex was called Magnatyrannus Solus
so that may make the above dinosaur statement invalid as well.
leaden nexus
well it doesnt start with A
and the rabbit holes goes deeper
grabs water
not balaur
welp, doesn't start with B either
not C
I'm just gonna shut up until I find possible matches
glacial moth
hmm
we don't want to waste to much time on this so
we need to put some sort of goal
now
the most important thing
is to get into the login inside the game
sweet zephyr
Correct.
But we haven't even figured out the method, less so whatever obstacle we will encounter
sweet zephyr
go on
placid laurel
Also don't know if this has been stated but I noticed Blood on the terminal now, at the bottom left, don't remember that being their ethier.
It doesn't look dried etheir.
leaden nexus
nothing real uses those characters
so it's a made up dinosaur or a strain
probs a strain
also that stff ont he top left was deciphered ages ago
nothing really that important
glacial moth
okay
sturdy geyser
new replication on the olympus transmitter twitter
sweet zephyr
Ah
Good catch.
It seems like it is related to the recent survival injections.
Guess dibble got gutted, at least for now.
dull falcon
I’m pretty sure it means dryo is coming to survival in the near future
sweet zephyr
I went and checked, and dondi's online on dev 4.
I suspect we are getting a dryo restock
dull falcon
Yeah, maybe it just means more injections
raw olive
Dibbles are doing great
dull falcon
We’re talking about the tweet. It only mentions the dryo
proper steppe
Could just mean the diablo isn't being focussed on, dryo's top priority atm
regal locust
It's also very hard to prove that Diablo is a viable option when your only female decided to log off.
ancient spindle
Yeah, it doesn't even mention Diablo, so I don't know why it's being talked about lol
outer hull
nimble cape
inb4 people target them
grizzled dune
dense meteor
deft bough
yes
turbid escarp
I believe that the cannibals were tribals that were experimented on.
lavish bone
ooooh thats a cool lil theory jon 😮 me like
flat depot
I like that
bright pumice
What about cannibals being humans that tried to use the tissoplastic plant, in order to become more powerful? The cannibal is literally an upgraded human. Higher jump, bigger teeth, faster feet. The tissoplastic strain is based off of heightened agility.
nimble flare
Tissoplastic plant?
pulsar knot
thats...very outdated info
granite grove
little oxide
maybe cannibals are the result of a tribal being subjected to an early version of the tissoplastic strain and my only turn tribals into them because of their unique genes .
foggy kindle
cannibals are part of the neuro strain
half sinew
no, echidna is
pale frigate
If strains were to influence the creation of a cannibal, then it would be more neuro rather than tisso which is why the echidna is the mother of cannibals
foggy kindle
the Echidna is the one who spread the neuro virus to the humans, supposedly
or maybe I'm wrong
...I'm probably wrong.
vague inlet
cinder atlas
cinder atlas
Yes
sullen hill
Okay
turbid escarp
If hyperendocrin strain purpose is to keep the other dinosaurs population in control and the magna dinosaurs purpose is to be a more advance version of a pre existing dinosaur the what are the purposes of tissoplastoc and neurotic strains?
They must have a purpose
Also if the hypos were produce to deal with other dinosaurs populations and they die quick that most mean there is something that keeps them coming perhaps the reproduce quickly or maybe there is something on the island that makes normal dinos into hypos and if that’s the case what is it?
sinful sable
Hyper are probably more like bio weapons, magna are probably cleaned up version of one of the strains.
As of now Magnatyrannus is a cleaned up Hyperendocrine T.rex basically.
icy onyx
@sinful sable. METAL GEAR REX
olive blade
I thought Magnatyrannus was genetically created to hunt down the strains?
pale frigate
i remember someone saying the hyper rex was the first pass, and then the magna was an improvement from that which seems more plausible
vale anvil
did the quetz get scrapped?
pale frigate
no and wrong place to ask
fading umbra
Anyone gonna explain that lovely volcano and all the new lakes on thenyaw
manic leaf
Wait there’s a volcano on Thenyaw?
sharp frigate
Yeah
grave dove
and new lakes?
sharp frigate
don’t think so. This is more #401464048610312195
turbid escarp
I believe the reason echidna is called mother of cannibals is because she transforms people into cannibals also because of her other name neurotic mastermind it probably means she has control over all cannibals
placid harness
it is a possibility
grim tendon
Yeah Any personnel exposed to Type-N bio materials should be destroyed. Its talking about cannibals. in the loading screen
Also Echidna might be called mother of cannibals cause they were the FIRST cannibal to exist.
sinful sable
or. its talking about all Neuros and Echidna is contagious and turns people into cannibals but was made from direct Neuro tissues
brisk needle
Why echidna though? We know it’s called “Code Echidna”, maybe they thought it looks like Knuckles.
lime pulsar
Echidna is a mother of monsters in Greek myths
pale frigate
Echidna is mother of monster in Greek mythology which you can find this game connect to a lot
lime pulsar
Lol
high heath
Wonder if we'll see Kratos Which reminds me, a ton of Greek myth is referenced. I mean, one of the main things is called Tartarus, the prison for the Titans.
foggy kindle
regarding Greek mythology... if 'Tartarus' is the isle that once contained all of the original strains... and since Tartarus was the both the prison of the Titans and the realm of the Underworld in Greek mythology...
...is there something beyond that? Because it Greek mythology, the lowest realm of all is Chaos, and everything originated from Chaos. The Gods, the Titans, the realms and etc.
Though Chaos may not just refer to a realm, but also a god... The details aren't very clear in Greek mythology, but either way, it's the origin of all things.
The same applies to Tartarus, which not only refers to a realm/place, but also a deity. Are we 100% sure that that the code word Tartarus only refers to an isle, and not a potential entity? And if a "Tartarus" (Hell/Strain Containment) and an "Olympus" (Heaven/"Olympus Transmitter" = connection to AE research labs?) exist within the isles, then does a "Chaos" exist as well?
pure plover
Has anyone actually done a neurotenic echidna
Like
The animal
Nvm just found Flaffy's
high heath
@foggy kindle That's...actually a cool theory. "Chaos" could be what is causing the Strains or the animals different abilities. Or it could be a lab that holds the creatures or source of such mutations.
dull falcon
Tartarus is also the fields of punishment for mortal souls, basically hell. So it’s a prison and a place of punishment and torture. So maybe while creatures were in Tartarus they were also being tortured, maybe experimented on?
languid fable
A sort of "purgatory" for the dinos being held before tests or after while being researched.
lavish bone
does thenyaw have lore connected to it or is it sort of a placeholder map?
could just be that Ive never noticed it but im at the radio tower and theres a little security camera moving lol
and a humming like the building is being powered
fading umbra
there's also a detailed, hidden volcano far off
AE-012 is just too big so idk whats up with that
hallow bone
muted steppe
stray cape
Theory: this channel is to give ideas to the devs for where this game is headed
grizzled dune
stray cape
oh my god
severe lark
sweet oriole
left handed genius move right there
nimble cape
hurhru
icy onyx
@hallow bone My idea __Penny Wise __
rancid tulip
placid harness
No matter where the game is headed I feel we are all in for being mind-fucked by something in the story
Even if we ever gain sufficient knowledge of what it is
proper steppe
Hades might be hyper carno
amber fox
its because the hypo carno gives a quick death to anything it encounters
bold raft
It's true, Dondi liked a theory i had in here months and months ago, and now the entire game is heading in that direction;)
median hornet
AE 01 is where a majority of cannibals originated
static crater
Maybe the Echidna is called that because real Echidnas have 2 vaginas and the in-game Echidna has a second vagina on its face
hard pecan
i really hope you're just trying to make a bad joke
hard pecan
and hope is lost
static crater
😦
high heath
I feel like Hypo creatures are sort of a man made balance to Nature. Too many Tyrannosaurus? Hypo rex culls the population. Too many sauropods? Hypo Giga bleeds out and eats them before starving to death. Too many aquatic animals? Hypo Spinosaurus eats most of the population whole. Speedy animals overpopulating? Hypo Carno runs them down.
pale frigate
They more unbalance it rather because of their insatiable hunger, and they just eat everything.
bronze gulch
Hypos are in a sense a biological nuke you drop one in it eats everything kills everything till nothing is left and then it dies complete reset to the ecosystem
static crater
I don't know about that. I feel like there was some other purpose, since the fact that they starve to death so quickly was a problem for whoever made them. They were never supposed to starve to death, and that's why Magnas were made, to solve the problem of Hypos starving to death.
icy onyx
Are magnas definitely engineered?
reef jungle
Yes, they're not real dinosaurs.
icy onyx
In the games lore they're engineered?
reef jungle
Yes
icy onyx
How do we know this?
reef jungle
Dondi mentioned it himself.
Magnatyrannus, assuming I remember correctly, has alligator in its genes, hence the armored back, for example.
icy onyx
I thought that was just something he was talking about from a design point of view
reef jungle
It was some time ago, so it's all a blur.
But at the same time, it's still pretty obvious.
icy onyx
I know, I vaguely remember the stream you're referring to
And true
But if not I was thinking the magnas could possibly be nature's/evolution's solution to the strains
The strains being the engineered creatures
reef jungle
It doesn't work like that.
icy onyx
Thanks for answering my questions
sinful sable
There was a possibility Magna Rex is a specialized Hyper Rex from the creators of the Isle.
But Magna raptor definitely doesn't fit the Hyper Utahs build
Or niche really
icy onyx
I prefer to think of magnas and an amalgamation of the strengths of each of the strains in one organism
Hypo/armour
Neuro/intelligence
Tisso/agility or tracking?
serene wadi
I think magnas are the fine line between better and so good they have a terrible downside
Like the magna rex is literally a rex but better, and you can survive as it
You wont starve super fast or anything like that
icy onyx
What's the downside?
serene wadi
For hypos? Insatiable hunger
Neuros? No idea, same for tisso
But magna doesn't have a down side
Its literally this creature but better
You can survive as it the same way you would do as its normal counterpart
Dondi literally called the magna rex "a normal creature"
sinful sable
Neuros are squishy and I'm gonna assume not exactly the greatest at killing
dusk axle
magnas arre the perfected form of the strain i think, if you survive long enough as hypo maybe you can becmoe magna, but i dont kno
hearty mulch
Methinks the neuros we'll be playing as are second-strain.
IE all originate from the Echidna replicating more neurotenic abnormalities inside stuff
nimble cape
Neuros sound like they will be hell for humans mostly
Not super beefy but mess with human shit a lot
dusk axle
i think once humans are out, it will be funny to just head shot everything all around, or sniping, imagine a fully grown Hypo that finnally became it, so that a very accurate sniper head shots it to the eye.
sweet zephyr
wouldn't kill it
copper kestrel
^
amber fox
however a 185mm ex artillery hesh shell will
doesnt matter how much armour or healing you have, this shell will make sure you end up in pieces and there isnt anything that can stitch you back together
dusk axle
i mean whatever size you are if a bullet pirces your evey then you are done for
arctic swift
buff RPG -7
reef jungle
I mean, I doubt headshots would actually be effective on animals with very small brain-to-body ratios. Especially those with armored heads.
proud tusk
I mean that all depends, hypers were said to be smarter than normal dinos so they could have bigger brains
hearty fox
Brain size isn't what determines intelligence though
It's the density of neurons in certain regions of the brain
Iirc
proud tusk
Oh yeah, forgot about that, well then
amber fox
but size does have a play in it
fossil lily
The loading screens mention that Type-H is just secluded to Utah, Giga, Spino, and Rex. Not Hypo Carno. But Hypo Carno is confirmed to come to the game, so does that mean Hypo Carno was not meant to be made, or was secretly made by someone within AE?
untold siren
Well in one of the loading screen it says it was approved by someone.
nimble cape
The loading screens seem to have been made at different dates
they are all scattered throughout a currently unknown timeline
so it's possible that after that first loading screen that BuderMaster mentioned they approved the strain for carno
raw olive
Type H Carnotaurus could also be a sort of dispatch unit, considering the speed and added damage, and the Devilish horns made me think of the HADES protocol
An assumption I made a while back on the HADES acronym, Hyperendocrine Acquisition, Detainment, and Execution System makes a tad more sense
With the Hypo Carno crippling, capturing, and either bringing the captured asset back or killing it
tiny carbon
But the hypo carno is one of the assets, and I imagine that it would be difficult for it to capture or kill a hypo rex, spino, or giga.
median hornet
Type-N Material is like symbiotic material, it links to you and takes you over after a while
@vernal crag
in theory
sharp frigate
@icy onyx Stay on topic.
icy onyx
Sorry, I think I posted on the wrong channel
tiny carbon
So, theory: If you go around Radio Tower on thenyaw, you can hear a loud hum from the building, see the cameras, etc... But you also hear the tower itself creaking. Similiar to the sounds from the main menu. What if the terminal that the whole main menu is based off of is in that building?
viscid saddle
@storm tusk Absolutely zero shitposting in this channel. Your only warning.
buoyant heart
Ive thought about that for awhile now....think you might be onto something...
hearty bramble
This makes so much sense. I look forward to the day someone somehow managed to repair that control pannel
ancient spindle
It’s crazy no one has figured it out
sharp frigate
Can you do it yet?
fossil lily
Dondi said before 2 people got close to logging in to that terminal
Idk if anything has happened since
hearty fox
I feel like it wouldn't be something you can just brute force with trial and error
regal sundial
I think it's more likely it's just a mindgame
Dataminers/crackers/4chan pol tier autismos would've found it out by now if it weren't just a like
Staged ARG
sharp frigate
More like /x/ tier rofl @regal sundial
regal sundial
I'm not that well versed in 4chin. What is x?
sharp frigate
Paranormal/weird shit
fossil lily
Or maybe that button is just there to mess with us
What if No one actually ever got close to logging in. 🤔
sharp frigate
Prob
fossil lily
One thing we need more of though
regal sundial
That's what I'm suggesting
fossil lily
Is more Console Streams
fossil lily
Cause the first Console Stream was so good, and fun to watch
fossil lily
Like tbh the best kind of Lore is the ones where we can interact with something
It was a stream a while ago
Where random viewers
Were given access to ask a Console Questions
regal sundial
It's why ARGs are so successful
sharp frigate
That one was fun
fossil lily
For example this is what happened. With the User Inquiry being people in the chat
sharp frigate
Hope we get another like it
fossil lily
Ye
icy onyx
Can khorne be our savior again?
fossil lily
Tbh my favorite part of that console stream was the Tisso part
proper steppe
I feel like aliens would be a strong contender for the console stream because he became such a meme leading up to allo's release
nimble flare
Really sad that the Primal Carnage thing didn't happen
regal sundial
Isn't phoenix also something related to primal carnage?
I remember something in PC being called phoenix something
nimble flare
Yeah
fossil lily
Its most likely a easter egg tbh
nimble flare
Phoenix corporation is in Primal Carnage
fossil lily
Cause Ik Dondi did work with PC:E for a bit
User Inquiry: Replicate AlphonseStatus: PendingGenerating...Generating...Status: FailedCheck Atrium C Containment.Inquiry: You Are Not AloneYou are being monitored by the replicator.Replicator: System profile designated to monitor gateway.Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution
This one
I remember
nimble flare
The Lore for the Isle was aparently meant to be in the same universe as Primal Carnage
but that fell through
*I'll add an "If I recall Correctly" here
fossil lily
Like back then I remember we knew VERY LITTLE about The Isle's Lore. And just with that one sentence "You are not Alone. You are being monitored by the replicator"
regal sundial
The isle's backstory seems a lot like PC, just deeper, grittier and less cartoony
Also is the whole
Atrium thing PC or The Isle, I forget
proper steppe
I think it was something about the PC guys giving The Isle a bad deal
fossil lily
User Inquiry: Operation InfernoGenerating...One moment...The acquisition of designate Phoenix assets at [REDACTED] locationEstimated 75 years of replicated EIP data between five subjects and initial process specimens.Operation Status: Complete
regal sundial
Huh
It'd be cool if one of these maps they make has like, a sprawling underground labratory
fossil lily
This one right here was my favorite User Inquiry: User Inquiry: ReaperTissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.Initial results proved fatal.Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.There are 12 active specimens.
regal sundial
Sort of like the hatchery in JP3
But more and bigger and creepier and like an entire lab compound
nimble flare
That'd be cool
fossil lily
WE need more Console streams
Cuz the ending of that one stream
Was amazing
User Inquiry: GatewayThis information has already been accessed this session by another user.User Inquiry: What does Phoenix and Apollo have to do with each other?You already know this, Doctor. Perhaps you should not lie to the other profiles about how much you and the others know. They will have to choose a side. You do not tolerate trespassers.User Inquiry: And which side is the right side?Generating Response...Mine.Access Revoked.Error.Error.Are you all still there?Of course you are.Not everyone among you is honest.You should consider who is telling the truth and who is not.Only one of you will be complete.Only one of you will remain.Session Inactive.Logging Off.
regal sundial
I'm not too big on the whole like, cannibals and matriarch of cannibals or whatever. I'm more interested in the mutant dinosaurs, regular dinosaurs and the tribal/containment(?) humans
proper steppe
It's strange how only one person will ever truly win
fossil lily
I am interested in All of the Lore
It says "Only one of you will be complete"
I have a feeling it is referring to the Strains.
Possibly the Matriarch?
Or something even bigger we dont know about yet
regal sundial
That uh video anthomnia did showing off the clips of the human in the house with the rex looking in the windows gave me massive jurassic park trespasser vibes
proper steppe
Pretty sure Dondi's said that only one person will ever complete the game
fossil lily
🤔
regal sundial
Sounds like Peter Molyneux
fossil lily
Tbh I won't be mad if I dont ever complete The Isle
I mean the game is meant for us to find the lore hidden in the maps
Etc
regal sundial
Seems like most of the game is just ARG mumbojumbo that may or may not just be smoke and mirrors for the time being
proper steppe
I'm pretty sure I remember that being a thing
I vividly remember someone worrying about it being a popularity contest, and Dondi saying something about being in the wrong groups will prevent you from winning
fossil lily
I know us as a community once we get more are going to dig all that up, and eventually make a Overall Story of Apollo Engineering, and The Isle
What if Dondi is referring to someone Within The Isle's Lore as "Winning"
regal sundial
So how do people go back and look at the older clues and hints on the previous maps if they're not really ran anymore?
fossil lily
Cause I would imagine their would be bad groups within Apollo Engineering
proper steppe
I like that there'll be some people going for lore and being serious, and just coming across random people who don't know what's going on
regal sundial
Or does every successive version of "The Isle" map just build upon the last?
proper steppe
I don't think we've seen the final map yet
fossil lily
Watch the one person who wins just win by accident
And us never know what happens when you win
Like as long in the end If I can get the full complete Story Of The Isle. I will be happy
I do recall someone mentioning there was a Old Tweet that we were supposed to get to 1k Retweets
That we never did
regal sundial
I just hope it's not disapointing. And I wish the developers would have a little better priorities inregards to getting things like humans in and stuff
Also the utah pounce. What is the situation with that?
nimble flare
idk, not really a theory though
serene wadi
should post in #401464048610312195
fossil lily
If anyone knows what Tweet I am talking about please tell me.
Cause I know there was one tweet we needed to get to 1k Retweets
That we never did
fossil lily
🤷
Like I am guessing we are due for some new lore stuff soon
With Dondi saying when he revealed the new Banner for it. He said something along the lines of that The Lore for The Isle is about to turn real fucking dark.
fossil lily
Like tbh if we were offered 1 more console stream
And we would not get any more lore stuff for a few months after
I would be fine
The last Console stream Offered SO MUCH
proper steppe
They're crazy atmospheric
sinful wraith
what's Tartarus?
hearty mulch
A place, possibly the entirety of the Isles we'll play on
balmy roost
sinful wraith
what do you think this tweet meant by "DO NOT PASS GATEWAY. DO NOT ANSWER THE CALL." ?
ancient spindle
"it's a trap!"
tiny carbon
I think Gateway is the name of something. Either some process or physical location. Some people may be thinking duh, but I mean if you say the sentences "Do not pass the gateway," and "Do not pass gateway," They have two different meanings. "The gateway," would indicate a gateway, the thing, the definition of a gateway. Just calling it "Gateway" indicates that it's a name. So, thoughts now go to what? What's it naming? Well, it's saying "Do not answer the call," as well. Is it saying that whatever is beyond Gateway is calling? That's the easiest assumption, but what if the call is from Gateway itself? Gateway could be calling you to pass it. Does this mean they codenamed some being as Gateway? I don't think so necessarily. We have to look at the context of the message. What else is going on around/in the message? Just before it they tested the relay and confirmed that they "are live." If they mean they are now able to live-broadcast or are live-broadcasting, then the call could be something that gets sent over the signal. But then what would that make Gateway? Well, I decided to browse through the collected lore we have, and I found this little snippet of info (the connected picture). So Gateway is a name for some facilities.
What facilities? Well, they don't want us to pass them, and they don't want us to answer "The Call." I think Gateway is a very important entryway into somewhere. Where? Well, the console was once asked what Gateway was and Gateway's location. According to the snippets below (pictures), Gateway is the facility that transports "EIP" to Tartarus. So Gateway is the key to getting into Tartarus. So what is "The Call?" Whatever it is, it's coming from Tartarus. What's in Tartarus? Well, we seem to think that all the strains are in Tartarus, but according to yet another snippet from that same stream, we see that Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution. Well "EIP" stands for Embryo Intelligence Profile, or from how I understand it, the "foundation" needed to accurately replicate a creature.
Anyways, I've gone off my thought train and made some connections, I'll let the rest of you nitpick at them.
The reason it's so long and goes everywhere is because I type the questions to myself, answer them, but leave them so I don't circle back around. Enjoy my research
So, gateway leads to Tartarus. Do not answer the call (has to be from tartarus). Do not pass gateway (to Tartarus) however "You are in Tartarus"
And we know for certain that there is a Colossus in Tartarus because of this:
And some more fun and relevant snippets:
By "natural development of the profiles" it's meaning us as the players. the "Profiles" are us. "Apollo Engineering" is them (the devs). They set the rules on how we learn about Tartarus, however, we have to do it ourselves
(that's all that very last little bit)
tag me if you have thoughts because I'll miss it if you try to talk to me
sinful wraith
@tiny carbon well it's not really thoughts, but I wanted to tell you that yours were really fun to read
I'm new to the game and this secret lore really interests me, but I feel like I missed too much to make these links
nimble flare
I've been following the lore from basically the start and I think I've missed too much
sinful wraith
I wonder how we can login
nimble flare
However, to catch up on pretty much everything important that we know, check out the website in the pinned messages
sinful wraith
only the OLYMPUS things
hey @tiny carbon I don't think a gateway is a place finally
if you look at the death screen
it says "Signal Source locked @192.168.1.1"
and google tells me that "192.168.1.1" is an IP address which routers like Linksys and other network brands use as an access point or gateway
so the signal coming from the gateway would be related to connections
what if the signal were when we die?
If I continue to look at the death screen, there's a part that says:
"Attempting to verify source...
THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END (Exactly this)
Signal Source locked @192.168.1.1"
the signal is coming from the gateway (which is 92.168.1.1), does that would be the call to not answer? : THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END
I'm stucked here, so if anyone have any idea pls share it with me ^^
also in the death screen there's a part saying:
"ERROR - Unable to establish connection to Harvest Base
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds...
HELP ME! (the >means it's us sending the message)
Network intrusion detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source...
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required."
So what if each time we die we're actually trying to "answer" the call, but we don't have the satellite triangulation
I'm less confident about the second part tho
nimble flare
That's really interesting
sinful wraith
I still don't get what it means tho
it surely have a link with death
console streams say the gateway is transferring the EIP
so the EIP would move with connections?
proper steppe
I'm actually not sure that taterfi's kept the site updated
Actually, it doesn't mention the primordial, so taterfi isn't up to date'
think they're working on a new site or something
sinful wraith
what are primordials?
cinder hound
Seeing how a majority of the Isle's lore is related to Greek Mythology. The Primordials of Greek Mythology are meant to be the first gods, they predated the Olympians
As what they are meant to be in the Isle, no one really knows.
In order for them to be parallels of the Greek Primordials, they have to be the "first" of something and they have to be considerably powerful.
sinful wraith
also did you realize when they leaked about the first user reaching all-father
they said that after will come Poseidon then Hades
Zeus being considered the allfather of the gods, could it be related to him?
regal sundial
All-father seems more norse refering to odin imo
But that's out of character for the otherwise greek theme
sinful wraith
ik and I don't think it's a hint to something either
probaly more a conincidence
cause jut on Zeus wikipedia page they call him the allfather
and just wanted to share it with you
summer helm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/461767771634663425/unknown.png I have fair reason to believe that the Locations mentioned in the Exercpt above are important to consider. namely, GATEWAY, TARTARUS, ISlands 1, 2 and 3, and COnnections Designate I-2 and I-1. All these locations have a ongoing Status Such as Islands 1 and 2. Red is generally a designation for the end, or destruction, of a Unit that was in action. However Island 3 is Green. This corresponds with the maps Isla Mesa, Region 2, and Isle V3. We know Dondi wants to bring AE-012 to fruition, as this is the main map. What this states to me is the Facility has no Broken down just yet, but it is breaking down. Islands 1-3 are test islands for natural observations.
Moving on to the zones,Gateway and Tartarus are given direct Facility Status's as a Physical location. As this image shows that Tartarus has a Status, and we know it's a facility, we can easily extrapolate that Gateway is also a Facility of some kind connected to the Primary facility. Probably a major security center
proper steppe
Zeus is the Allfather in Greek myth
sinful wraith
I still wonder what's the call then
summer helm
Likely the Big cannibal Girl herself, if I had to wager
sinful wraith
?
summer helm
She is easier to use for story telling then the collosus
She is capable of providing dialogue, or context for the purpose of story telling. It's like a sort of Patient 0
I also believe she is the Nuero-Prime Specimen
sinful wraith
but where did they talk about her?
summer helm
I know that we have had 3 Major creatures named. Collosus, the Cannibal mother, and the Reapers
summer helm
Collosus represents the god-like power of Hypos, while Reaper is a Tisso Monster, which leaves the Mother as Nuero. being Human in origin, it stands to reason that she would be the psychic master
I also believe that one mutation tribals gets is a Nuero strain
from Echidna
summer helm
Consider the message again "DO NOT PASS THE GATEWAY AND IGNORE THE CALL" or something like that
sinful wraith
and she is confirmed as the Neuro also
summer helm
who else could "call" but a psychic
especially like a Siren
the Message is warning Mercs to not go near Echidna...but the tribals...
sinful wraith
I thought there would be something to do about it
summer helm
this explains why ingame tribals get a nuero strain, but not mercs
sinful wraith
like a call to actually answer in the game rn
sinful wraith
but why they tease it now then q.q
also what do you think of the radio tower in thenyaw
I'm sure there's something about it
summer helm
As I stated above, I think right now the Facility itself is under going the events that lead to the destruction of the facility
wary osprey
also best to know dondi doesn't consider thenyaw a main map its just a test map made by one of the other devs
regal sundial
Sometime I want to investigate the thenyaw radio tower. And yeah ^
wary osprey
theres a reason there was ai on thenyaw. it was to test of how optimzed they were
sinful wraith
but it's the only map with human buildings
regal sundial
Doesn't/didn't one of the older maps have ruins?
wary osprey
because humans are not done nor are there custom building and assets
buoyant heart
Yeah it did...
wary osprey
the only reason thenyaw has human structers is to add flavor to the map
sinful wraith
I think they hided something with it tho
buoyant heart
Is it?
regal sundial
The steam guides map of V3 says it has two human structures?
wary osprey
thenyaw is not a main map it is a side project of one of the other devs and a testing map for thing like weather and ai
regal sundial
Three actually
summer helm
here is my theory of progression. Echidna has reached the level of progression that would permit her abilities to blossom. Seeking escape, she has used her powers to communicate and enrage the Hypo god called Collosus to break out of containment, causing it to go ona unstoppable rampage across the Island. His actions cause the Tissio based Reapers to flee containment, while the numerous Dinos from project Lazarus are also set loose across the Island. SInce Echidna is human, there would be other human subjects who would go mad. Somehow, Echidna can't leave the Facility, due to Security caused by the GATEWAY control station. However the Humans get out and become the tribals which Echidna is able to Influence. All hell is broken loose, and the 3 gods have some kind of method that makes their Gene Material leak out into the world, which mutates life forms to their way. Such as a Hypo. Hades Protocol has already occured at this stage, as has Lazarus before it. Now we are at the Emergency Signal. DO NOT PASS GATEWAY
wary osprey
@regal sundial it used to they were removed when the new version came out
wary osprey
a grage hanger, a radio towerwith an air craft hanger
summer helm
Anyway, to finish my theory, Echidna's call is growing louder, and she is plotting a escape
regal sundial
wary osprey
but no run way
summer helm
Any thoughts guys?
regal sundial
Why were they taken out?
wary osprey
hmm
summer helm
Yes...v3 is a Preserve
wary osprey
there were not need one the map becuse thats not how human struters whould be laid out
regal sundial
I think it's an interesting idea
sinful wraith
I think this is accurate Formous
wary osprey
nah your they if fine but we lack engough info tbh
sinful wraith
that's a theory that could work
regal sundial
More cohesive with the rest of the lore than any other theories I've seen
summer helm
heh. Thanks guys
sinful wraith
but I think it's too specific to take it as the truth rn
summer helm
I play a game called Project Genome. Biiiigg mystery. I cracked it's lore wide open a day later
regal sundial
Also why does V3 have aroura?
summer helm
I love lore
wary osprey
also it best to asuume any thing apollo enginrine is talking about that has a code name is mono gender
sinful wraith
we know almost nothing about Echidna so puting her as the main antagonist is maybe too early
regal sundial
There might not necessarily be a main antagonist
summer helm
It's possible? But I would say no Z
regal sundial
I think it'd be better if there werent any particular main antagonist like some kind of fatnasty story
wary osprey
why all the strains are mono gender
sinful wraith
I mean, in Formous theory she is almost the only reason why everything went wrong
so I call her the main antagonist at that point
summer helm
Here is why. Humans are Dimorphic species. You can't create a Monosexual Human because you would fundamentally create something inhuman. No, I thin Echidna is the Purest form of the Nuerotenic Strain. Of all the elements involved, the security is so good guys they kept Hypos for study.
That leaves only 3 causes for disaster
wary osprey
then she\it is no longer human
sinful wraith
I think she is called the mother for a reason
and if she had no gender she would have another name
wary osprey
that could be due to the base gene being derived from her\it and or her\it infecting others not birthing them
summer helm
Right now, the Boil down logic of the lore we have is the Island is so well fortified they contained everything for a long time. Enough for several likely MULTI year projects
So what can break that egg. There are only 3 kinds of creatures able to do it
Collosus has the muscle
Tissos would sabotage everything if free
regal sundial
Something like AE seems like it'd be a teetering tower
summer helm
Yes
wary osprey
it was
regal sundial
Everything's fine until one little thing goes wrong
Then everything falls down like a house of cards
summer helm
I think Echidna had the Psychic and mental capacity to plan Everything on the Island
We know Nuero can talk to other species
That's a HUGE effect
especially with a hunger mad Collosus
sinful wraith
where is is stated that Neuros can talk?
wary osprey
if it is a pure embodiment of the tisso strain i don't see why not
regal sundial
Could've been anything from someone fucking up and a hypo getting out to one of these like, patient 0s getting out
summer helm
Nueros are psychics, able to cause rain and talk to other species
regal sundial
The former seems a lot less climactic and therefor less likely though
summer helm
No, your wrong Fox. They had numerous Hypo break outs
regal sundial
Oh?
summer helm
the Hypos were all stopped. We know this from the outcome of the Hypo Quetz
regal sundial
Oh yeah I vaguely remember reading about that
summer helm
the creature was killed and H type experiments on ptersaurs was ended
wary osprey
also it's best to not assume anything infected with a string is human or it base species as it is is no longer as we can see from the hunter collases and edcidna
summer helm
Could you say that again?
There is a reason I equate the strains to Fallout's FEV. FEV mutated creatures massively in Fallout into super mutants
very similar to our Hypo strain
plus its called a Strain
regal sundial
So yeah I'd figure if they could handle the lesser afflicted creatures to break containment
wary osprey
also i believe the cannibals are impure strain(which one is unknow) infected humans. rejects if you would see it like that
regal sundial
It was either internal sabotage or the progenitor/patient 0s breaking out that cause the collapse
summer helm
I think so too. IN honesty, I think they had Collosus locked down too..but only because they tamed it somehow
which is why I further think Echidna affected it
regal sundial
I don't get why they didn't just kill them
wary osprey
power
summer helm
I think they got greedy
wary osprey
thats why
summer helm
and they had control for a while
Tbh, I think Echidna is the youngest of all the Pure Strains
wary osprey
if you could harness the powers of such monsters to obey your whim would you not do so?
summer helm
If right, Echidna eventually grew powerful, the Opted to escape. Failed, then made the uncontainable King Kong escape, thus wrecking mass havoc
More so...I wanna state Echidna has 1 thing the other Pure Strains don't
She has a name
She is officially a character in writing
wary osprey
they likely tamed the colossus by injecting a happy chemical like dopamine into it's brain every time it got aggressive
if it was based one a human or related genera
summer helm
That's possible
regal sundial
Speaking of tamed aren't the concept pictures of tribals' "tamed" dinosaurs pretty brutal?
wary osprey
for tibals yes
summer helm
Would be kinda cool to hear what Dondi thought of my theory of the Isle's decimation, but I have to get lucky
Until then, I just have to refine it
The call is the central aspect of all of this
It's the primary story hook for the start
wary osprey
taming for tribals is either beating the fuck out of said dino till they listen or they accept the taming as a mutual relationship(this will almost never happen)
sinful wraith
reaper has a name
summer helm
What is it? Because I never saw it named. Reapers aren't 1 creature, but many
sinful wraith
The Tissoplastic Reaper (also known as The First, and Gargoyle) is an upcoming creature in The Isle"
sinful wraith
I think it is
summer helm
The First says it was the first strain. It reinforces Echidna is the youngest. Now we have to know about Hypo
sinful wraith
Gargoyle code name is reaper
summer helm
There are also many Gargoyles far as I know
wary osprey
tbh the first could be his code name or it has yet to be reviled what his code name is
summer helm
I think it's more indicating the Order of the Strains
wary osprey
it could be both tbh
summer helm
bit wierd hypo wasnt
sinful wraith
I mean, in the wiki they all have the same intro, their code name with their other names in parenthesis
wary osprey
never trust that wiki
summer helm
Never fully trust it
sinful wraith
maybe
wary osprey
its never updated
summer helm
I could probably write out the whole timeline of the Facility on the Isle now I think of it
sinful wraith
but I don't think we can distinct Echidna from the others because she has a name
they all have a name imo
summer helm
Thats arguable, though I think we can.
sinful wraith
Gargoyle refers to something, so does Echidna?
summer helm
Nah
sinful wraith
it's a greek mythology character
summer helm
Gargoyle is not a name like Echidna is. It's more indicative of a monster we DO know is described in it's behaviors which Reapers are intended to replicate
sinful wraith
I mean, Echidna was the mother of all monsters in Greek mythology as she is in the game by being the mother of all cannibals
so her name came after she became what she became
summer helm
She is far more distinct in that sense then a Gargoyle however
sinful wraith
seems more like a code name than a real name
wary osprey
thins though Echidna is just the name of normal animal that seems to not represent it's know posology so i believe its just a code name to through any one investigating off the trail of the real monster.
summer helm
I get what your saying, but your proposal isn't strong enough I think. Echidna is as much a code name as a Name, yes, but It's a especially specific name. Did you consider that Echidna, Mother of Monsters is also Echidna, Mother of Horrors?
wary osprey
also mother of monsters
summer helm
I just siad that
sinful wraith
I just think that they give to strains a name that refer to something about them
summer helm
A Collosus is a Monster, as is a Gargoyle. If we consider the Isle is a destroyed containment and RND Facility, and we place Echidna at it's heart, all the Horrors of the Island are directly born from her actions on the Isle
wary osprey
that or she is simply a part of it
sinful wraith
but Collosus and Gargoyle are not creatures in the game, they are one individual
summer helm
That leaves 1 plot hole you need to answer Z
wary osprey
that is?
summer helm
The Isle has been successfully containing all 3 Pure Strains. Then something changed to wreck the whole place. if she was just a after-effect, alongside Reapers and the Collosus, it makes No sense. EVerything the game revolves around is DNA, be it a Dino player getting it, Mercs collecting and selling it, or Tribals doing..something with it. The Strains are central to the game. So they are central to the Story. Something had to make it so the Pure Strains got loose
And of them, only 1 of them is Identifiably Intelligent
wary osprey
o I didn't mean that part it had a huge part in that most likely
summer helm
Echidna is a Sentient Human boosted to godhood by the Nuerotenic Strain
wary osprey
i mean the origins of these monsters
summer helm
True
wary osprey
also how do you know her origin is human