We did see it kill a hypo rex though
#isle-lore-theories
icy geyser
icy onyx
They probably still have the mindset of animals
raw olive
Magnas are likely a controllable strain made to exterminate a strain once it was done with its jod
raw olive
Job*
icy geyser
Magna is a polished version of hypo strain
placid harness
That doesn't mean it is necessarily a strain.
icy geyser
Did you look at the picture
sinful sable
Same as how Spinosaurus i able to kill Rex. One on one with a good player Spinosaurus can/(was) able to kill rex.
icy geyser
Dondi literally confirmed
raw olive
That way it can “clean up”
sinful sable
But Hypers starve to death?
placid harness
I've seen it.
I have heard many times from many people that Magna is not a strain.
sinful sable
That's their thing. A Hyper won't survive Long unless it has a conveyer belt of food to it.
raw olive
Magnas could also possibly have a secret “self destruct” mechanism to keep the area safe after the magna is sone
icy geyser
.....
raw olive
Done*
icy geyser
That makes 0 sense
placid harness
@icy onyx The Magna was released into the Hyperendocrin environment thing, if I recall.
icy geyser
Oh so neuro spino has jet fighter wings
raw olive
Like an increased metabolism if the strain is controllable
vernal crag
It makes sense, I doubt it though
raw olive
Not explosion...
vernal crag
Why on earth would you kill a million dollar asset?
icy geyser
Ikr
sinful sable
The increased metabolism was fixed in Magnas.
raw olive
Just maybe increasing the speed of bodily processes to starve it or send it to cardiac arrest
sinful sable
Who knows if they are even using money to do this 🤔
raw olive
It could be easier than killing it with weaponry
sinful sable
Maybe the stole it all.
vernal crag
@raw olive Why would you kill a million Dollar asset?
nova swallow
maybe asset is not undercontrol and threathens humanity
icy geyser
If it dies out of natural causes, that's that. Why would you do it yourself
icy onyx
Hyper is a good temporary bio weapon tbh it goes in and destroys shit and then dies later due to starvation
Just need to clean up the body
raw olive
@vernal crag It could be eliminated after the job was done be it clearing out a strain or whatnot
icy geyser
Pretty sure normal dinos can clean it up
icy onyx
Yeah but I mean if it was thrown in a city
raw olive
^
icy onyx
As an actual weapon
raw olive
Magna could be a counter
sinful sable
If you can make a situation where you can recapture it before it dies (like in JP with how the lycine contingency was planned to do) after its destroyed a location then it's perfect.
raw olive
Then it could be killed
icy onyx
Yes
icy geyser
Why would it be thrown in a city if all maps we got so far hint towards forest combat
vernal crag
@raw olive Do you have any idea how much money it probably costs to make one of those things? They probably keep it around until it dies, then make a new one.
icy onyx
I’m saying maybe if they actually were made as weapons
icy geyser
With the tents, radio station, hangar
sinful sable
What if.....Hypers pass out, some collection team is sent in to capture it, and they keep it alive?
placid harness
Maybe the tissue of the Type-H begins to rapidly cannibalize itself and degenerate until nothing useful is left, at least after brain death.
raw olive
@vernal crag Say it gets out of control
sinful sable
Then use a missile!
raw olive
Then it could be killed with increased metabolism that can be toggled if it is controllable
sinful sable
Why send ANOTHER dinosaur at it who has all the same problems except now it doesn't starve to death.
raw olive
Mussels would cause collateral damage
vernal crag
@raw olive say it's genetically programmed to stay somewhat under control, it's also slightly weaker than the Hyperendocrin, which leads me to belive its easier to keep under control.
sinful sable
It's a rampaging 100 foot long hell beast.
icy geyser
I think they want it to go out of control so that it can kill strains in rampage full of adrenaline, ignoring wounds
icy onyx
Let’s throw hypo rexes in the middle east
sinful sable
It existing is collateral damage
vernal crag
Ik
placid harness
They probably stopped producing Type-H Pterosauria because it would just fly away and go find food elsewhere.
raw olive
But just having a kill switch would be easier if it could somehow gain sentience
vernal crag
Regardless of what happens, I don't see AE authorizing the death of a very expensive strain.
icy onyx
That is unless they found a way to clone it easier
raw olive
As with the raptor strain (of which one I forget) being able to open doors with increased intellectual ability
vernal crag
I mean, we all saw Jurassic World. They did not want to kill their multi-million dollar asset until it absolutely crossed the line, and that is with a Moral Company
raw olive
Killing it would be impractical but it would be more of a failsafe
icy geyser
They don't need to worry. Plus they don't sit next to it while it fights. They might sedate it, transport with a heli a few miles from the target and let it wake up
raw olive
^
sinful sable
Both the magna and the hyper utah are intelligent. And so is normal utah
icy onyx
Actually using magna raptors and hypo Utah’s is easier to cover up if you threw them in Iraq
sinful sable
Normal utah was said to have a very complex social and cognitive capacity.
placid harness
We have absolutely no idea how much it costs to produce the strains. For all we know they could be so efficient at it that it costs them only a hundred thousand, or less.
sinful sable
Someone is gonna spot a 100 foot murder beast who's laying waste to a town.
vernal crag
I get the feeling that AE does not give two flying Quetzes about what happens to its employees
icy geyser
Mercenaries are the ones dealing with physical stuff like deploying it in combat. Scientists just play god and create new creatures
raw olive
If a raptor hyperendocrine strain breakout happened , magnas could go in, clean out, and come back or be eliminated if needed
sinful sable
And then complain and whine when they escape
vernal crag
@icy geyser Scientists also get expunged and exposed to the Strains
sinful sable
I doubt one can control a Magna. The magna was produced by the AI and put into the world. That's all.
raw olive
If the raptors escaped, they could be killed with the kill switch
placid harness
Most of AE's personnel are highly disposable. If you even come into contact with Type-N bio-material then you get wiped off the face of the Earth.
Kinda like SCP.
raw olive
^ harsh XD
sinful sable
Maybe Magna Rex just hates Hyper Rex. And Magnatyrannus actions don't mean it's the same for all magnas.
raw olive
It also could experience that due to increased intelligence
icy geyser
I think strains will be controllable. If they weren't, dondi wouldn't test them on servers. He could test AI by himself too
placid harness
We know strains are going to be playable.
vernal crag
Well, if Magna is based off of the Hyperendocrin strain, and those things make a pissed off crocodile look peaceful....
sinful sable
Or. Rexes are highly territorial and cannibalistic to one's they don't know.
raw olive
If strains will be playable, that means they are being controlled by someone
raw olive
Be it a hacker or a scientist or merc
icy geyser
Don't expect spawning in directly as hypo
sinful sable
@placid harness we don't though? It's been talked about. Not making Hyper playable and it's bounced around. Right now it's a case of who knows what will happen.
Strains are changed normal animals.
raw olive
Ik that but strains will eventually be controlled
icy geyser
Don't we all know that?
sinful sable
There's planned to be an animation for something changing.
placid harness
I'm 99 percent sure Dondi has mentioned there will be ways to become Magna / Hypo / other strains.
icy geyser
^
icy geyser
Or eating infected organisms
sinful sable
-shrug- he brought up a few months ago not making Hyper Rex or something playable. Then talked about making it playable more recently. Like I said. When it happens we will see.
icy geyser
Like a hypo strain lizard
sinful sable
It's said to be very hard to get to Strain.
raw olive
Like defects in a sort
icy geyser
Of course
sinful sable
So just eating some things or wallowing in a Chem bath and getting hyper doesn't sound very hard.
raw olive
You either wait after contact or you are born with it
Like rad sickness
Usually it’s long term effects
sinful sable
Especially when people will definitely work for trying to get it for their friends so they can have a giant beast.
placid harness
Maybe you got to go to the strain bosses and have them diddle with you a bit.
icy geyser
Hypos should be used temporarily. Go in, do damage, get out, die. A hypo simply isn't made to hunt or survive over long periods of time. Literally perfect for a war
sinful sable
And he said it's not gonna be a "wait 5 hours and you get hyper"
sinful sable
So doing something then trying to survive till it takes affect doesn't sound right unless it's going to be similar to Rex growth. From 1.0 adult-full grown hyper.
Which means you need multiple modeled stages for it changing.
icy geyser
^
raw olive
@sinful sable There could be model changes seeming odd along the way as well
icy geyser
Matriarch will also be a thing...dunno how it will fit among the strains
sinful sable
Matriarch is a solitary presumably hybrid which is such a mish mash it's barely a dinosaur anymore.
And she is able to breed.
The other strains are infertile
icy geyser
There is a loading screen about it
sinful sable
Strains are confirmed to be infertile. While the Matriarch has a brood.
raw olive
If that then there could be more strains like a hypo Rex with maybe a bit of neuro
But it can’t reproduce
Also like birth defects
sinful sable
Birth defects=disadvantages.
icy onyx
Where’s the patriarch
raw olive
Like mutations I meant
icy onyx
Jk I bet the matriarch is asexual or something similar
placid harness
Maybe Matriarch asexually reproduces.
icy onyx
Yeah
raw olive
^
icy onyx
Godzilla 1998 style
icy geyser
The collossus, reaper and echidna might be the neuro tisso and hypo form of humans
icy onyx
That’s what I thought
raw olive
^
icy onyx
But for the cannibals
raw olive
Cannibals may have lesser exposure
icy geyser
So they experiment on dinosaurs which they don't care about, see it works, and then use it on humans to make super "soldiers"
raw olive
Colossus and such could be heavily exposed
icy onyx
Mhm that would make sense
raw olive
Also, they may be the “grown” super soldiers
icy onyx
Those 3 all have human anatomy pretty much
icy geyser
Yeup
raw olive
Like after a while a cannibal becomes like echidna
icy geyser
I dont think so
raw olive
Or cannibals could just be screw ups of implanting strains in humans
The strain didn’t take effect
Just messed em
placid harness
Echidna is what happens when you put Neuro strain inside a human.
icy onyx
Mhm
raw olive
She is the mother of cannibals though
icy geyser
Echidna can give orders to cannibals. On the neuro loading screen it says something that whoever touches a form of neuro tissue gets infected with something. Maybe that's how echidna survives, since it doesn't look tough. Infects a few tribals, they turn to cannibals and they work for it, bringing it food and such
raw olive
^
raw olive
They could possibly not need food as much
icy onyx
Makes me think of alien tbh
raw olive
Yeah
icy onyx
i still think that Neuro is something synthetized from abyssal creatures
icy geyser
Still, they protect her
icy onyx
Neurotecnic creatures have a fleshy jellyfish vibe
icy onyx
thats is likely to pump more blood to the brain
Mhm
all the big veins are around neck and head area
icy geyser
So are for humans
raw olive
So, the cannibals could be screw ups from touching the neuro biomaterial and the echidna could be the neuro strain implanted into a human in a controlled environment
icy onyx
i assume that Cannibal will be obtained by finding Echidna in caves
or eating neurotecnic flesh?
raw olive
Then you are attacked and converted
icy geyser
The veins at the neuro's neck is really big, which proves it is in fact an artery. By its position you can tell it is a carotid, which is the artery that delivers blood to the brain
icy onyx
Probably bigger than the average human and cannibal
raw olive
My assumption based off hypo Spino compared to neuro Spino and having the colossus being as big as a pue is that it is about the size of a Camaras body
icy onyx
Colossus is not as big as a pue
raw olive
@icy geyser That does explain the bizarre abilities
icy onyx
Colossus can grab a pue and put it on it's shoulder
icy geyser
Cannibal to carno and echidna to cannibal
icy geyser
So echidna is almost twice as tall as a cannibal
raw olive
Yeah, comparable to maybe a camara
coarse sonnet
Isn't it just a fan art?
raw olive
Just looks really tall as well
icy onyx
the tendrils around Echidna's legs
coarse sonnet
could
raw olive
Not tough
icy onyx
are they just fancyness
icy geyser
Slenderman vibes. Tall and thin, no face and mind control
icy onyx
considering how Neuro seems to reroute all the fat and muscles to the brain and circulatory system
i really don't think those tendrils have no purpose
icy onyx
considering cannibals are far bigger than humans
Unless those tendrils are what make humans cannibals
i imagine we can assume those tendrils are used to restrain
icy onyx
Reaper always made me think of Man bat
@sinful sable never liked that scythe thing, looked so unnatural
i get it, they're bioweapons
icy geyser
Cannibal always made me think of future predator from primeval
icy onyx
doesn't explain that boi had a miracle blade attached to his wrist
and ye
Maybe those wrist blades flip around
at that point should just made a mantis
mantis are mimetic as well, and do have that kind of blades
icy geyser
Its arms are simply used for defending itself. As you can see in the pic, it has a cube floating in its hands which means it doesnt need to grab stuff, it has the ability to control objects with its mind
icy geyser
Which is why it has no fingers
icy onyx
smh
Knife Bat
@icy geyser what i meant is restrain n' sting
i do wonder if Echidna will just like, pick up and throw people 'round
i'm fairly sure a lot of people will call ''UNBALçANCEDNAHAHAHJIK''
icy geyser
With its mind?
icy onyx
and yes
placid harness
I honestly think the Tisso Reaper had a cool, creative design to it. If it is getting remodeled I hope they keep the scythe element somehow so it is a true "Reaper".
icy geyser
I dont think it can lift objects as heavy as a dino or human, it can lift a little cube object but it has to carry the cannibal with its arms and tentacles
So that it is balanced
icy onyx
what i mean
icy geyser
Dondo could've just made it pick up hypos and ship them to china but that would be unbalanced af
icy onyx
well if Echidna is the 100% potency of the Neuroptic, that means that other creatures should have far less ''proficency'' with it
basically
placid harness
Has anyone tried looking at the sequence which the CCTV screens on the main menu go static?
icy onyx
if Echidna can grab a 100 ton object
icy geyser
Which is why the neuro spino looks like a spino and not a blob with veins
icy onyx
NeuroDinos should be able only to grab 60/50/40 depending on their proficency
like, a TREX shouldn't have much ''Neuro'' proficency as i'm fairly sure it would retain a brutish melee aproach
while the Dilo and Carno for example should have more proficency with those powers
Honestly if that is still going to be a thing it should be limited to one specific strain
smoky cosmos
@icy geyser I wouldnt take any sizes from tapwings art as canon. For example colossus's size in tapwings art is undersized by quite a lot
raw olive
Rex would likely be a tougher neuro with maybe a pacifying sysrem
System*
Fear maybe
Or a deep sound
native coral
hi meaty
icy geyser
@smoky cosmos i know but dondi said it could be canon and since it is the only, most popular artwork of it we have it is the only thing we can use in this state. Unless they release official art we have nothing
misty zealot
That did not refer to allready existing concept art
When refered to "art could be official" it means Tapwings original designs
smoky cosmos
they already have art and have planned echidna for a long time now
her sizes arent canon lol
muted steppe
icy geyser
may I get a link to any official echidna art besides the one I have sent? I haven't seen any besides tapwing's
@muted steppe that is tapwing's design
placid harness
No its not.
muted steppe
No, that's the official
misty zealot
No its not
icy geyser
yes it is
misty zealot
No its not
smoky cosmos
no
placid harness
No
muted steppe
Fucking
smoky cosmos
thats rodrigo vegas design
misty zealot
^
smoky cosmos
its been in the game since 2015
placid harness
icy geyser
There is artwork with the exact same concept and it has tapwing's signature
and some other sketches on the left
smoky cosmos
a lot of tapwings art is based on official art
placid harness
^
misty zealot
^
muted steppe
This is Tapwing's fanart doodle of the official design
https://tapwing.deviantart.com/art/Mother-of-cannibals-680214487
icy onyx
theory: who made this art
muted steppe
stan you aren't helping
icy onyx
😦 ill leave
misty zealot
lmao
muted steppe
Alright, I'm just gonna
go into #401470471750811669 and slap all the official designs vs tapwing's fan-art of them
misty zealot
Mhm
misty zealot
The original art that is
icy onyx
perhaps
by the way
if the Matriarch is a rapid and exponentially growing creature
can it be a dinosaur at all?
misty zealot
if you could call it one
icy onyx
Hell i actually think an insectish appeareance would match better since reptilians are far from rapid and exponential growers.
muted steppe
I mean, the male AI did say that it was incorrect to call it a dinosaur
misty zealot
Sorry, this is The Isle, no megabugs here
icy onyx
i'm imagining a ''The Thing'' kind of stuff
with a clumped mess
of various traits
fin of a spino, head of a rex, wings of a quetz etc etc
it did say that this thing was supposed to adapt from what it nommed yes
muted steppe
See, now that's just sounding like some random deviantart JP hybrid OC
misty zealot
JW hybrid OC*
muted steppe
You know what I mean
misty zealot
Yeah i just have to mention which was the bad one
icy geyser
so will echidna be able to infect other creatures with the neurotenic disease/virus?
raw olive
Since it is likely that contact with neurotenic biomaterial is a strain transmitter then p r o b a b l y
There is a loading screen about it
misty zealot
is it even contagious
raw olive
That could be why echidna is the mother of cannibals
Contact with a neuro Dino is unlikely because they are large and scary but it seems like the echidna would be sneaky and have far greater speculated abilities such as straight mind control
And thus, she could infect more people
misty zealot
So far, anything regarding strains have been regarding experimentation
Like "Reaper"
The strain was "placed" inside a human
raw olive
Exactly
misty zealot
By that i mean
Nothing contagious
And when it comes to Echidna, it wasn't contracted, it was generated
sinful sable
I mean. The Male AI just said it's "not correct to call it a dinosaur" which means it looks like a dinosaur. Likely is a dinosaur. But it's some kind of Mish mash evolutionary adaptor that makes it hard to really say "yup. That's a dinosaur"
grizzled dune
Only time something contagious was mentioned was here:
AE-AES-007
Type-N speciemens
All type-N Bio-assets studies are halted as of (blank space).Final studies are to be concluded beneath Atrium B within (blank space).Any personnel exposed to direct contact with any type-N Bio-materials are to be considered expendable and expunged along with any biological contaminants from code Echidna-(blank space) do not replicate.
raw olive
I’ve only seen the loading screen where it says that those who come into contact with Type-N tissue are considered expendable and are to be expunged
misty zealot
Yeah but regarding Echidna
raw olive
@grizzled dune Yeah
misty zealot
User Inquiry: Echidna Neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen. Subject Location: Unknown Status: Missing.
raw olive
Echidna itself yes it was implanted into a human but it can “infect” to create cannibals
That’s why they are only cannibals
Not exactly like a Type-N strain
grizzled dune
Biological contaminant definition being:
"Living organisms (such as bacteria, enzymes, fungi, viruses) or their products that can be hazardous to animal or human health if inhaled, swallowed, or otherwise absorbed into the body."
Source:
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/biological-contaminants.html
raw olive
With the abilities
icy onyx
Maybe the employees that touched the echidna shit got "expunged" and turned into cannibals. 🤔🤔
misty zealot
Sounds like a case of the headhumping what's it called
I swear this Echidna/Cannibals shit sounds more and more Xenomorphy each second
sinful sable
Expunged means they got killed.
grizzled dune
Yee.
icy onyx
or so they thought DUNDUNDUN
grizzled dune
After all, cannibals were said to be a mix of Xenomorph and Predator in the past.
misty zealot
It goes side by side with the theory that Echidna being something similiar to what a Xenomorph queen is.
sinful sable
Maybe it's a similar situation to strains. Only Tribals can get some mutations?
Could be they used Tribals to make said Reaper and Echidna.
misty zealot
Inb4 Cannibal "Praetorian"
sinful sable
That's what I'm more interested in. The islands and the tribals. Who cares about the dinosaurs or strains but being serious. As of now it's some sort of cloning/ark style stuff in a high tech hologram dome deal. (Not exactly alike but best I can compare it to)
(INB4 Colossus is Praetorian)
Would be terrifying if Echidna had some of the other cannibal types in her control.
misty zealot
In AvP Praetorians could become queens though
which is why i mentioned 'em
Nah nvm, that'd mean a player could become a Echidna, which is not possible
I redact the last the praetorian mentions
sinful sable
Technically all true Xenomorphs can become queens.
It's the weird hybrids like King Xeno and such who don't. Just a quick fyi
placid harness
Seeing a big jacked cannibal wrestle with one of the bigger theropods would be amusing
Imagine all the possible types though.
icy geyser
rex grabbing it by its head and torso and swinging it side to side like in jurassic park
xD
icy onyx
I feel like the isle's OST tells something.
In Welcome to The Isle and Thousand life contract we hear human voices.
Tbh I feel like Welcome to the isle tells something of Tribals summoning some creature.
As it gets in the action part of the iske I feel like the creature gas been created/summoned.
Thousand life contract:
I feel like the creature that was created/summoned is now bringing terror over the isle killing all creatures.
Acts of god:
A very calm and relaxing song, thus one was WAY diffrent than the 2 others.
I feel like the creature has been captured/killed
and now the isle is finally back in peace
icy geyser
Matriarch maybe
The creature everyone and everything wants dead
It is also super powerful and intelligent
raw olive
Could be a failed experiment like the first attempts at a super creature (Matriarch) that escaped and was brought down
The “summoning” could be in the lab where the creature was created
It ravaged the area and is somehow brought down or it finally escaped and is now peaceful until its next uprising
icy onyx
Matriarch has a meaning
Since it will have offspring
And the Latin meaning of matriarch is mother
So it’s likely a female
ebon elbow
Were Spinosaurus and Ginanotosaurus Hypoendocrin version's bottom splitting jaw inspired from shin godzilla or not?
icy onyx
Tbh probably from snakes
ebon elbow
ah yeah
ebon elbow
yeah actually true, they are made for a resembling snake usage
but the thing is that
snake doesn't have
that meat tissue
beetween the 2 jaws
raw olive
It could be another disadvantage to the hypo strain
ebon elbow
because their mouth is elastic
raw olive
Such as neuros lack of eyes
icy onyx
Well they are man made creations (probably)
raw olive
^
icy onyx
So they aren’t perfect
ebon elbow
maybe the concept was inspired from snakes but the actual design and splitting mechanic was inspired from shin godzilla
neuro lack of eye may be inspired from xenomorph
sinful sable
Spino is based on snakes straight up since it's built to swallow.
raw olive
They are being made for war so at cost of the creatures well being it could now swallow light vehicles
sinful sable
Giga is just meant to rip your skin into flakes.
ebon elbow
eh still nothing beside shin gozilla was made with such a membrane beetween the 2 splittinig jaw
raw olive
^ We see it chasing a Jeep that it could easily swallow in some fanart
sinful sable
The Hyper Giga grabbing a human would make them into a blood paste and bones
raw olive
They could be the destroyers
sinful sable
That's all a human would be in the mouth of a H giga.
icy onyx
And strategy
raw olive
Magna is an all-rounder
icy onyx
Magna might be nature’s counterbalance for the Hypos
raw olive
Yeah
raw olive
The magna was created and since strains are sterile
sinful sable
They aren't natural.
raw olive
^
icy onyx
Oh ok
sinful sable
Nothing on the Isle is natural (except maybe the tribals)
icy onyx
Aren’t the Dino’s natural?
raw olive
Even they could have been placed there
icy onyx
Or they are alteration of their real life counterparts
raw olive
Nah Dinos were created
icy onyx
I thought that the military found an island that has dinosaurs
Set a base
Messed with nature
sinful sable
Plus it's been said "intelligence" moves between new animals.
raw olive
The hypos starve
sinful sable
Since that's how the players are there.
That's how the players aren't acting like Dumb AI or something.
icy onyx
They have quick metabolism
raw olive
The Dinos could be being controlled from the start console
icy onyx
That’s really difficult tho
Putting a device to each neuron brain would cost a lot
And in danger the animal survival
raw olive
The reason we hear gunfire and roars could be that we are attempting to suppress a threat
The dinos could be synthetic anyway
sinful sable
Remember the animals are made and released into the Isle.
raw olive
^
icy onyx
Will magna have the starvation problem Hypo has?
raw olive
Magna was made to counter that
icy onyx
Oh nice
sinful sable
icy onyx
Cause Hypos seem like crocodile versions of their real life counterparts
Oh wow
Who’s the Allfather again?
Could you explain?
grizzled dune
Magnatyrannus's project name.
raw olive
The magna could be a try at the matriarch but something else came of it
icy onyx
Oh ok thanks
Matriarch seems to be something else
It’s Latin name means mother
And it has offsprings
raw olive
As the matriarch adapts, the magna is already an all rounder
The matriarch could be made to reproduce the strains
sinful sable
Hypos are functionally bulletproof creatures who have traits which enhanced their innate aspects and have insane healing and metabolisms
raw olive
It is basically H- Strength N-intelligence T-agility
icy onyx
Also they are categorized as Type H,N,T right?
sinful sable
Giga has developed super bleed
Rex is a super crusher
Spino swallows most things whole and became more aquatic
Raptor has two enlarged toe Claws on each foot and duel hinged wrists
And carno has better turning.
grizzled dune
Type-H N M and T
sinful sable
And Magna is Type-M yeah
icy onyx
Nice
Magna seems less extreme on the appearance wise
The others seem vastly more complex looking
sinful sable
I still feel it's just a better version of the hyper.
raw olive
That too
sinful sable
Weaker healing wise but still as powerful and doesn't have the horrendous metabolism.
icy onyx
Yea
raw olive
An all rounded creature
sinful sable
A hyper is said to be basically unkillable.
Magna is said if ganged on it can be killed
raw olive
It’s similar to a normal Rex vs Rex fight
sinful sable
(Both directed at the Tyrannus form)
raw olive
If the other gets a good bite, it wins
raw olive
Magna on hypo throat = M win
sinful sable
Magnatyrannus isn't said to be a Rex.
raw olive
Hypo a n y w h e r e = hypo win
sinful sable
And it has a Binomial.
nova swallow
hypo is a failed experiment and magna is a fixed version so it wont starve to death and does not have to constantly feed eh ?
icy onyx
Hypos aren’t failed exact tho
raw olive
Magna is slightly weaker in health but still a well off one
icy onyx
They are very excellent at their job whatever it is
sinful sable
We will see but I think Hyper aren't failed. I think Magna is just an improvement.
icy onyx
I’m loving the lore of this game
nova swallow
you dont make better versions unless the previous one is lacking something or missing
icy onyx
Hypos need high sustenance
sinful sable
Hypers were gureenteed to die basically.
Even when you play as one you almost definitely starve to death
icy onyx
But Hypos are meant for offense reasons
They might be failed experiments
Or first try creations
But their metabolism really affects their life style
As they need constant hunting and moving
Essentially like a shark
sinful sable
Except not at all since sharks go months without eating
icy onyx
I mean in movement
I know sharks have long periods of not eating food
so basically Spino is type T
type thot
i'l go die now hahayes
ebon berry
Type H (Hyperendocrin) Type T (Tissoplastic) Type N (Neurotonic) Type M (Magna)
hearty mulch
t-type-D
icy onyx
This may have been said before but what if the cannibals are like juvie or sub versions of the Echidna. Like the Echidna is one of the first people exposed to the Type-N virus and has had the time to grow into a full adult but the cannibals now are scientists that only recently have been exposed.
sinful sable
Echidna isn't planned playable.
icy onyx
I know, and this is where it gets interesting, if they made the cannibal a sub or juvie echidna, maybe they'll do the same for the other strains, make powered down versions of the full embodiments to play as.
raw olive
K so I've a stupid theory feel free to rant
The Magnatyrannus is the Allfather, right? What if it was created firstly and then the scientists were like "Hey, this thing has certain traits that we want!"
So, the strains we know and love today were taken from the Magna and specialized
river marsh
Colossus, echidna, and reaper are the main source of strains. Magna would be a refined hypo/colossus strain. But that doesn't mean wonder how they made the colossus, echidna and reaper to begin with...
icy onyx
Possibly enhanced natural viruses
So......who's Dr Whyse?
Hes supposedly in charge of one or all of the strains research
Yea I had the same idea
icy onyx
He could be the one who sent out the "hungry" message
grizzled dune
One can assume he got something to do with Type-N Bio-studies.
icy onyx
I think he was the first to be turned into a cannibal
I actually just believe to be the one in charge on the type N strain
Lowkey feel like Dr. Whyse is the guy in the twitter pic infront of what I can only assume is a tyrannosaur.
river marsh
He's likely dead from the n spino I feel
icy onyx
@icy onyx In that case he (or she) might transformed into the Echidna in that case
That's what I'm thinking
He could be the first
Therefore the most advanced cannibal
The echidna
😮 😮 😮
Stan knows what we're talking about 😎
definitely
Considering it's called the "Mother of Cannibals" Dr Whyse might have been a female
Emphasis on "Have"
I mean, it's just a theory so, it's really unknown
Yeah, im just speculating
Besides, in my opinion the name Whyse sounds more like a name for a man, not for a woman
Eh, could be either
All I think is that they are no longer a man/woman anymore...
Dondi is probably looking at my theories like "this man knows nothing"
hearty mulch
Echidna/Reaper/Colossus probably aren't strain sources, since at least 2 of them are confirmed to be humans who had strain material inserted/replicated into them. Colossus can be assumed to be a hyper human, but dunno completely due to deleted profile.
shy viper
Ay this is the most fitting place to ask but can I make some fan made lore just for fun, or is that spreading misinformation? Is it ok if i stick a big ol sticker that reads "fan made" on it?
sinful sable
I mean. Every theory ATM is a fan theory.
But for complete lore...ehh.....free world as long as you aren't claiming it's yours/making money off of it.
shy viper
Ight, gotchu. Be prepared for some SCP-style logs from ya bois truly at AE
sinful sable
We should really put together all we know on the Isle (Tartarus are the islands right?)
I asked mutton but it seems Neuro Spino controls a weather system. Which implies the Isle is climate controlled.
And of course the variety of ecosystems could be man made.
icy onyx
Colossus,Echidna,Reaper aint the source
They were humans injected with the strains
@sinful sable
Well
If we consider the Strains and E,C,Reaper the titans
That fits surprisingly
sinful sable
What are you talking about....
I'm saying on "The Isle" as in what we know about how the Islands are working.
icy onyx
Tartarus
if we consider the strains titans tartarus could be the islands/one of the islands
sinful sable
Not what is on the islands creature wise. But how the actual islands are acting how they are and such.
It's been confirmed Tartarus is an island. Just forgot if it was just one of the islandS
ancient spindle
Pretty sure it is
cloud fractal
@sinful sable the neuro spinoff is supposed to control weather and has (supposedly) and employment blast attack (as far as I am aware)
*spino
raw olive
Tartarus could be where the strain creatures are kept
sinful sable
The blast attack is the EMP @cloud fractal. And the Controlling weather I guess is apparently that it's controlling a weather control on the site.
raw olive
Could be
It is very likely that the climate has to be controlled
For the Dino’s to live
And another thing, on one of the screens (I can’t quite recall which it’s been a while) there is a radar that shows the continents
Could the pings be the islands or containment areas?
If so then climate control has to be a thing with some of the locations
sinful sable
Hyper giga.
And it's all been shown before.
The bottom one is an in game Hyper Giga screenshot.
sinful sable
Taps hyper rex.
sinful sable
Man they have come a long way from that. Still like it but that Hyper Giga.
God I love the hyper giga chasing the jeep
sinful sable
sinful sable
Not really theories since it's an official design. Nothing to really theorize with.
icy onyx
ok
sinful sable
Only thing I'm wondering is how Tisso Rex fits in. If it's temporary or what.
icy onyx
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sinful sable
Like I love the design but it's said to be old concept art so I don't know if they will say it's a "old variant" or just scrap it and replace the static screen with an updated one.
ancient spindle
Excuse?
prisma heron
Nevermind, i read wrong
But yeah, the tisso rex you were unsure of is in fact a tisso rex
empty quest
Far as i know none of Tapwing's fanart from before she was a dev is officially canon. Just a possibility that they might become it.
icy onyx
Matriarch has a high chance of being canon, however it's not gonna be called that if it gets put in.
Why not
Don't know, Dondi just said it probably wouldn't be called that
I think it's a good name but who knows, they might come up with a better one
nimble flare
Well The matriarch is a creature that dondi had already planned before Tapwings fanart, so I'd assume that if they are putting Tap's 'matriarch' in with another name the real matriarch will be added separately
icy onyx
Maybe, it's already said that both the colossus and matriarch are active in tartarus. How much that relates to tap's matriarch or a matriarch that has already been planned by dondi, I do not know.
The matriarch could be another name for something else for all we know
smoky cosmos
nothing else exists that we know of thats even close to what the matriarch is
taps matriarch design itself isnt the way the matriarch looks
been confirmed by dondi
now her ideas on the matriarch
¯_(ツ)_/¯
icy onyx
Yeah, it's all up in the air at this point
to be honest tappy needs like some more drawings
icy onyx
needs like some more drawings
sinful sable
Would be cool as like a Matriarch offspring or something either way.
dusk axle
or a new strain or something like that
supple dome
so whats everyones thoughts on DR whyse?
sinful sable
Dr. Whyse? Isn't that the one working with Type-N?
icy onyx
Yes
sinful sable
Don't know the Doctors or the other humans in the Isles lore.
grizzled dune
Believe these are the only mentioned characters so Far:
Dr. Chance (galli Ruler) - Responsible for Project Alphonse,along with,presumably, Dr.Drive
Dr. Vega (Rodrigo Vega) - Type-T bio studies (?)
Lawrence Carter - helped AE acquire Phoenix's assets during Op. Inferno.
Dr.Whyse - Type-N Bio studies (?)
Dr.Drive (?) -Responsible for Project Alphonse,along with Dr.Chance
Regarding Doctor Whyse,this was the only time he/she was mentioned:
"Paging Dr. Whyse." in the Type-N Spino tease.
supple dome
i believe DR whyse was head of the strain development. thats why we got the "paging dr whyse" thing when we had that sneak peak of the hypos and the magna.
or they were responsible for collecting the bodies of the strains that died to stop further infection of creatures out in the field.
unkempt pasture
anyone know when tribal-humans will be effective in-game?
icy onyx
nope
unkempt pasture
whats the difference between legacy - previous stable branch and None Opt out of all beta programs?
icy onyx
this doesn't seem very theory related
last nebula
^ That would be a question for discussion or dev branch chat
serene wadi
Did anybody figure out #transmissions yet?
I think the messages there are just being deleted really fast
proper steppe
Anyone wanna watch it all day, or do we do a stream on it?
sweet zephyr
iirc, meaty had been watching it for a few days
serene wadi
Plus we can't see the message history
Which means you need to be there when it happens
sweet zephyr
isle transmissions boys
vocal violet
misty zealot
'fer the first time, somethin up in #transmissions
icy onyx
I think HADES might be the hyper Utah...
sweet zephyr
let's not jump to odd conclusions here.
icy onyx
@misty zealot there is?
Not jumping to odd conclusions at all
It's at least related
sweet zephyr
Ah I see.
misty zealot
@icy onyx whaddya mean "there is"
Go look
misty zealot
ocean mauve
^ Also see what Black sees.
lucid ermine
Wasn't there another thing in the transmissions channel before?
icy onyx
Well
lucid ermine
another tweet i mean
icy onyx
Hades at 35% aye?
ocean mauve
Last thing I saw in there I think was the Do not pass gateway.
lucid ermine
Do you have a screenshot of that? i'm trying to keep all the transmissions incase something happens
ocean mauve
I dont, though I'll check to see if anyone else nabbed it.
icy onyx
So something is being worked on, HADES seems to have something to do with the hyper utah or at least something to do with Type-H.
and it's at 35%
Interesting
grizzled dune
"THE FIRST PROFILE TO REACH THE NEXT PHASE SHALL CHOOSE REPLICATION. REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE.
PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD.
IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY."
🤔
misty zealot
the sky?
icy onyx
Phantoms...maybe fli dinos
misty zealot
FLI DIN~-.. jokes aside
icy onyx
Filling the sky
misty zealot
Do mind Tapwing is on the team
icy onyx
Yeah
pale frigate
wait if the hades protocol is in progress, then what happened to poseidon
icy onyx
So what are the phantoms?
misty zealot
But i am not 100% on Tap, as Hades has allready been mentioned before
icy onyx
Tap didnt design the hyper utah
hearty mulch
Perhaps poseidon's occurred already
misty zealot
Neuro-Spino?
misty zealot
Also, it'd not hurt doing some googles on Greek mythos
icy onyx
Yeah...
ocean mauve
Well, Hades himself is the god of many things; the dead, the underworld, subterreanean regions, death, darkness, the earth(soils and riches alike), fertility, mortality, afterlife and metals.
His name itself is thought to have possibly of meaning "The Unseen One"
pale frigate
found this in an article, "Hades employed the Furies, who were responsible for torturing the guilty." could help identifying what kind of "phantoms" would fill the sky
misty zealot
"There were several sections of the realm of Hades, including Elysium, the Asphodel Meadows, and Tartarus. Greek mythographers were not perfectly consistent about the geography of the afterlife. A contrasting myth of the afterlife concerns the Garden of the Hesperides, often identified with the Isles of the Blessed, where the blessed heroes may dwell."
sweet zephyr
It could also be the release of something.
As we saw above it was associated to the Utahraptor study.
misty zealot
Wonder if it really is as simple as Poseidon being connected to the Spino strain and Hades to the Utah
sweet zephyr
THE FIRST PROFILE TO REACH THE NEXT PHASE
I have a feeling someone found something.
misty zealot
Other than the (possible connection) Spino Strain, no known connection
Will have to have eyes open regarding that
ocean mauve
Poseidon, god of sea, earthquakes, storms. Only thing I can connect with is the Neuro's storm link.
Out of anything major that's happened.
sweet zephyr
and its gone
misty zealot
Hmm?
ocean mauve
What's gone?
ocean mauve
I still see it.
sweet zephyr
I do not any longer.
lucid ermine
i don't think you can see the posts on mobile
grizzled dune
I'm on desktop and can't see it either.
Wasn't here at the moment the transmission was sent though.
jolly lintel
i can still see it on desktop
pale frigate
i mean at least its not something you see else where, since its just an olympus transmitter tweet
ocean mauve
What was the thing connecting Utah to Hades? Saw someone mention it above.
icy onyx
So, supposedly, the hyper utah or something to do with it is being worked on. And it's at 35%
Hades could also be the event in which the utah is released into the island (or tartarus). This is just me speculating though.
gray pike
Seems resonable
icy onyx
There we go, felt like that made more sense
Anyways
It's kind of exciting to think about
gray pike
yea
sweet zephyr
I think the generations are not related to strains.
just related to their attempts to breed living dinosaurs without any major issues, for whatever purpose they might have.
ocean mauve
I feel like Hades itself might have some coordinance with the Tisso strain just based on the mythological source of it's namesake. Perhaps I'm building upon old information, but if the Tisso's main contender is still called the Reaper of all things, we might have a faint connection.
This is if the whole Poseidon thing truely was the Neuro-Spino's creation.
Hades itself nods a lot to the idea of "stealth" and mortality; name meaning "The Unseen One," along with his control over death, darkness, and the afterlife itself. Perhaps a nod to what has developed since the Tisso's rework.
proper steppe
I wonder how someone got Poseidon to do the thingy
fossil lily
Any idea what this means? "<:: HADES protocol at 35%."
Posted by the AE transmitter twitter
grizzled dune
Protocol definition in natural science:
"In the natural sciences a protocol is a predefined written procedural method in the design and implementation of experiments. Protocols are written whenever it is desirable to standardize a laboratory method to ensure successful replication of results by others in the same laboratory or by other laboratories."
So one can assume Hades is not ready,it's at it's early development stages,project planning.
Other definitions that could apply:
Protocol Definition:
a detailed plan of a scientific or medical experiment, treatment, or procedure
Medicine/Medical. the plan for carrying out a scientific study or a patient's treatment regimen.
Computers. a set of rules governing the format of messages that are exchanged between computers.
A protocol is also the rules to be followed when doing a scientific study or an exact method for giving medical treatment
A formal or official record of scientific experimental observations.
A procedure for carrying out a scientific experiment or a course of medical treatment.
fossil lily
Im thinking back to that one tweet we needed to get to 1k retweets
Maybe that tweet has to go with that other tweet?
grizzled dune
icy onyx
So what's Gen 1 and Gen 2?
That's the bit that confuses me, have we already seen both generations or?
sweet zephyr
we have in the utahraptor documentation and carno.
icy onyx
Ah
placid harness
uh
WHAT IS HAPPENING
Hades Protocol?
Maybe the gates to Tartarus are about to be opened?
upbeat sorrel
Building on @ocean mauve 's theory, Hades also had a helm of invisibility.
Like, it was his signature tool. During the wars of the titans, he was the stealth specialist, slipping into enemy territory and fucking shit up.
ancient spindle
Tisso strain makin' a come back?
That's my best guess, in the 5 seconds I put into thinking about it
fossil lily
The tweet I was talkin bout is I think one that was a while back
One that we needed to get to 1k retweets
But we still have not gotten it yet
dull falcon
I truly believe that HADES has something to do with the hypo utah, but what is “phantoms will fill the sky?”
Is sky a metaphor for something or does it literally mean something is going to be in the air?
It could also mean something about Tartarus? Maybe something is going to be taken out? Or maybe another creature will be locked inside?
copper moat
Could be humans dropping down from a helicopter/plane as that will be the future method of spawning.
shy viper
Well building on the helm of invisibility, is it possible that an iteration of the Tisso strain could be coming soon? I mean they were discussed to be small stealthy creatures that could track well and had extra means to do so(active camo, tracking barbs). The smallest of the 3 strains, such as with Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades. Hypers are the easiest to make because their main feature is strength. I'm honestly really looking forward to the tisso and neuro strains much more than the hypers just because of their uniqueness.
tiny carbon
Phantoms will fill the skies makes me think that literal phantoms, or ghosts will be filling the skies, or going to heaven.
In other words, I think a lot of things are going to die.
But if I think a little more into it, Hades is another name for the underworld, called so because Hades rules it. If everyone is assuming Tartarus is being opened or whatnot, and Tartarus is a layer of Hades, then Phantoms will fill the sky could also mean that things from Tartarus (which would be spirits/phantoms), are going to be released (being spirits, they would float/fill the sky). So, could be that a lot of things are going to come out of Tartarus.
enough to "fill the sky" anyways.
That's my take on what I understand so far
icy onyx
Doesn't seem that far fetched, but I dont think things are going to die so much as things are going to come from tartarus, it could be like you said where hades or whatever is coming from tartarus and is going to kill a lot of things but I think phantoms could be an analogy for either flying animals or something else.
tiny carbon
I would agree, if I didn't think that literal flying things was too obvious of a guess. Because the devs are anything but obvious tbh XD
icy onyx
Hades has something to do with the Hyper Utah, I strongly believe that. I just have no clue as to what phantoms mean.
Maybe that's what the devs want you to think...
tiny carbon
(also just thought about how phantoms are invisible, and ergo could be linked to the tisso's ability to become invisible itself)
icy onyx
Mmmm
tiny carbon
I could see that, but at the same time, refrencing to what someone said earlier, and what I've read on this channel so far, the strains seem to be based around the big 3 of the greek Pantheon, Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades. Zeus is the biggest and baddest of the 3, his power able to stop all the other gods combined if he wanted to (Hypo). Poseidon, according to Tamboob above, is god of sea, earthquakes, storms, etc... (The neuro is supposed to be able to "control the weather" or something along those lines), and as others have said, Hade's trademark tool is his helm of invisibility (which is a supposed ability of the tisso strain), so if anything, I don't think it's going to be a new hypo, so much as a new strain, and the only one we haven't seen or heard about (no new details have been released about it since they said it was getting a rework), meaning it's literally invisible to us right now
why two of those got sent, I don't know
icy onyx
That's a good theory, the only reason I think it has to do with the hyper utah is this
Code: Hades
tiny carbon
There's 12 blanks in that space behind Type-H
utahraptor is only 10 letters
(I think all of that is right)
So I don't think that it's related to a utahraptor incident, so much as some other kind of Type H dino incident that raised the clearance level.
The screen is only reporting that whatever experiments they've been conducting on the utahs is making them smarter
could even be neuro utahs
icy onyx
Maybe, I logically thought that Hades meant that the hypo utah would be the stealthier of the hypers. I had never though of the tisso or neuro strains to be honest. Just cause it said Type-H incident in a utah report.
I could be completely wrong, but I suppose that's the point of a theory haha
smoky cosmos
So my theory
Code Hades is everything locked up in tartarus being released
or atleast some of them
That includes the Hypos
and I think its on AE-001
icy onyx
That would make sense, everything we've heard about tartarus so far points to it being AE-001
icy onyx
Which could also mean that we'll see the colossus soon aswell
smoky cosmos
which has the Hypos
which get released with AE-001
but I guess that wouldnt work
since Atrium C is destroyed
hmmm
Ok going with the tartarus thing
tiny carbon
Ok, my only disagreements come up to 1. Why would they release everything? and 2. Why would they release everything right after an accident involving some kind of Hypo?
My thought: Maybe code Hades is, go and kill everything. If there's an accident and something got released, they could have a code that essentially relates to going and "reaping" their souls.
Go and kill the thing that got out, basically. Using Hades since god of death.
smoky cosmos
Well they might not release everything
Just the Hypos
because we know Matriarch is in Tart as well
tiny carbon
or they released the Magna, since to a hypo, it is a threat to it. A walking form of death for it.
smoky cosmos
probably wont be released
icy onyx
Release the hypos as a way to control the population, like they're supposed purpose is
tiny carbon
thought provoking conversation but I have to get going, thanks for the food for thought everyone
young jolt
I wonder if it could be what Raven was saying and be a manga as a way to reap the souls of the experiments?
Or mercs? 😃 one can hope.
smoky cosmos
Yeah
lets organize it a bit more then
Hades is a code, which is enacted to control the population and involves the Hypos. The Hypos will be released from Tartarus when AE-001 comes out. Tartarus is on AE-001
^basically everything
When Atrium C was destroyed everything/the Hypos was transferred to Tartarus
icy onyx
So Hades might be the actual event of releasing the hypers from tartarus, but that still doesn't answer the "phantoms will fill the sky" thing.
smoky cosmos
hmm
well alfie is still missing
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
could just be allegorical
or not mean anything
icy onyx
It comes down to if all the hypers are going to be released
smoky cosmos
Well we know at least 3 of them will
when AE-001 comes out
and its stated something colossal comes this way
so maybe colossus as well
no idea
icy onyx
Are they going to be released all at once or in succession
smoky cosmos
¯_(ツ)_/¯
icy onyx
It's very interesting
smoky cosmos
the 3 hypos will be released at once I'm guessing
not sure about the other 2 or colossus
icy onyx
Could hades be the contingency plan for the hypers being released?
I’m honestly confused like
A way to control them
hypos and neuros
which one is gonna come out first?? which one is the main event
The hypers are going to be the main event I think. Simply because they're supposed to control the population.
Or something like that
yum
So basically, we're all gonna be eaten
@smoky cosmos do you think the Greek gods are related to actual creatures or protocols?
icy onyx
I know, it seems more clear that the greek mythos relates to locations and not creatures. Which confuses me, because I feel like the gods should be represented through animals
Thats just me thougj
sinful sable
I believe that the incident doesn't specifically refer to any one Type H.
icy onyx
Not any one no, but all of them, maybe
sinful sable
I can't find any Type H animal with 12 letters and it's slightly annoying~ha.
icy onyx
I dont think it has to do with an animal, maybe a location or human working on the project.
empty quest
Quetzalcoatl is twelve letters, and is a winged serpent god from Mayan and Aztec cultures
Prolly doesn't mean anything, but hey. That's what this channel is for 🤷
Could potentially be a flight capable hypo, and is the "phantoms that will fill the sky"?
sinful sable
I would hope that's Neuro Quetz
Imagine it messing with something and creating a Black out of Quetz bodies
empty quest
Well, it could also be a flight capable tisso.
Since tissos were rumored a long time ago to masters of stealth and tracking
icy onyx
Wasnt one of the Hypo referred as Throne Breaker
I mean, Primal Carnage isnt crossovered anymore right?
smoky cosmos
hypo rex is referred to as throne breaker
sinful sable
Which was during its first ever model AFAIK and no where else.
So it could have changed.
icy onyx
So with this screen after the type H blanks are 12 letters and perhaps it's been mentionned and I skimmed over it but so far the only candidate I found was tyrannosaurus, so perhaps an accident with the T-rex ? I'm curious as to what it would be if that's the case, perhaps would link back to those old images of Magna killing a H-rex, this H-rex being the one that caused the incident
digital granite
Maybe the t-rex infected one of the Utah’s by a scratch or maybe even dr. Vega has something todo with the two.
icy onyx
infected utah ?
woven rock
placid laurel
Not a theory.
digital granite
Kiki it just random thought that pop up in my head. Like a late night c rated zombie movie. Where the zombie barley inflicts damage. An everyone dies. Due to the virus unless being a top tier means something else.
sinful sable
@icy onyx Tyrannosaurus is 13. No Strained animal has 12 letters in its name.
dull falcon
This is a completely different game that has no connection whatsoever but it has an idea. In Horizon Zero Dawn the “hades protocol” was releasing an ai that would kill all life so they could start over and create new life
nimble flare
in before the hades protocol is just the devs deleting all the dinosaurs they've added
sweet oriole
it all fits with greek mythology. Tarturus was both a place and the 3rd primordial deity. Hades put his father (creator) into Tarturus but also could oversaw the place. Since Tarturus is the holding place of the strains, Hades being the protocol for their release makes sense. Or its the protection protocol holding them in, with 35% being the remaining protection as opposed to 35% progress. Did we have any previous % posts about Hades?
dull falcon
Nope. The only other mention of hades is in loading screens. I think..
nimble flare
and in one other tweet about 'hades rising and phantoms filling the sky' or something ominous like that
blissful willow
@sinful sable how does it not make sense?
sinful sable
Because you have Neuros who are made to plot and plan around organisms.
Tissos who are stealthy and perfect hunters.
And Hypers....which are literally built to rush in, kill shit, eat to heal what ever damage it took @blissful willow
blissful willow
so just because its a tank its gotta be an idiot?
sinful sable
I'm saying not more intelligent then the base form. The animal is forced to CONSTANTLY eat. No way you should be able to think of a plan when every like 5 hours you're starving to death
blissful willow
i never said they were way more intelligent and they are defiantly not on the level of the other strains
icy onyx
Arguably the Utah is pretty damn intelligent, and this evolution allows them to hunt more potential food : the humans for one, and the little dinos that get in buildings via holes in the walls or something too big for the utah to get into, hence the ability to open door. But yeah.
To go back to my previous statement ( and miscount because hurrr durrr no knows how to count ) the only other dino I can think off which, actually has 12 letters, is the Ceratosaurus, but no strains we're confirmed or even talked about for it so I have low expectations that it's the one that's being talked about. Still would be neat if that was the case
icy onyx
this could be way off but it stuck in my brain
you know how the Olympus transmitter said DO NOT PASS GATEWAY. DO NOT ANSWER CALL this is assuming the gateway is how you get to Tartarus but you know how the neuro strain can mimic creatures calls what if they can mimic humans and that is the call there talking about and there trying to open tartarus so the colossus and matriarch and god knows what else can get out, this is most likely not true but its a idea I had
sharp frigate
Maybe
placid harness
An interesting proposition, the transmissions we are being sent are from non-human entities. It would make sense if it was some sort of AI or Strain because of the concise cryptic language, or some dude trying to be really secretive and only use codenames in the transmissions.
dull falcon
I brought that up a while ago lol
lone nacelle
Anyone got an idea about the Hades protocol?
wraith coral
Idk, sounds severe
icy onyx
Specifically it might be the Echidna transmitting these messages, simply because of the cryptic nature of the transmissions and it's in depth knowledge of what's happening in tartarus. It wouldnt be too far fetched to say that the Echidna itself is either luring humans to the island or trying to open the gates to tartarus.
icy onyx
One of the two
tiny carbon
Ok, do we know or have any theories on exactly how/why everything got out and Apollo Engineering went to shit?
pale frigate
who's to say things got out and "went to shit". seems to have been planned to go this specific path. i mean all this is, is to complete a profile A.K.A. one of the players
icy onyx
The whole aim of the game is to become the "ultimate organism" so it makes sense that all this happened to allow a species to evolve to the maximum that it can.
These guys are studying the strains to see if they can perfect evolution past what the animals would have done naturally
I think
dusk axle
i still think strains are to achive a new type of sodier
mossy tundra
well dilophosaurus has 12 letters, and we've seen that they are working on the hypo dilo right?
no never mind it has 11
damn it
last nebula
...dilophosaurus has 13 letters
amber fox
ouch
sullen hill
This man can't even count. 
mellow parrot
Odd, velociraptor has 12 letters
icy onyx
I mean
they could have tried it on a small dinosaur first before going with the bigger ones
so that's still a theory
That's probably where the utah comes in
wind jewel
Oh lord a hypo Velo would be weird
smoky cosmos
So just did another video on my theory of code hades & the story of the hypo quetz and atrium c
tried to explain shit better this time
wont be around until tomorrow though 😛
smoky cosmos
lmao
😭
yeah no way I'm releasing it at this time lol. I just now finished uploading it and completing it
wary eagle
Sure Anth would have had it done today, but it would have 59% less information and 100% more clickbait
Take it slow and do it well
wary eagle
But you stuck to the facts
smoky cosmos
so I explained that better and I also told the story of the quetz
wary eagle
You gave the information that was available while going into as little of "speculation land" as possible
smoky cosmos
which will be out tomorrow
wary eagle
And I like that
smoky cosmos
I mean most of this shit is speculation lmao
wary eagle
Sure but you draw a clear line on what's the info that we're given and what you think happened
I'm just a bigger fan of your style
Anth's titles make me sick
I can't actually watch them anymore
sweet oriole
your style has always been unique and that's why people watch. Everyone's style works for their niche. I woudn't compare you and slip either
wary eagle
Exactly
It's not that you're better or anth's worse, it's that I'm more in your audience than his
I don't hate the guy, he's just not my niche
sweet oriole
he's been listening, he changed up how he's doing things. his latest ones have been better
fact is, the more voices the better. if the info is bad, the community speaks up. evolve or die 😃
icy onyx
That's the point of having subscribers, they're not just people who like your videos and watch them all the time, they're also your biggest critics. Most subs actually give constructive criticism for the youtuber to work upon. Sure some people will just be negative and hate on everything but most people will give them advice, maybe not directly but in some ways.
placid laurel
Theories my mans, theories.
onyx sapphire
No proof whatsoever, but i do like this. What if every dinosaur was controlled by a human that didnt know it was a human. So basicly the dinos would be puppets and the humans would only know the perspective of the dinosaur.
it isnt true at all but me likey
umbral tusk
I mean, transfer of consciousness is a thing, so who knows.
onyx sapphire
ooooo...
Also when you die in the bottom left someone asks "Hey is anyone there!?" and things as such
onyx sapphire
Maybe the person that reaches the final creature gets freed
Or something like that
green igloo
Assassins Creed: Jurassic
high heath
I think the Strains are supposed to be a man made balance of Nature.
twin vale
@green igloo "prehistory is our playground" haha