you could connect the 2 that way
#isle-lore-theories
smoky cosmos
Helios as well
well the matriarch and colossus are titans
and apart of the 12 from what I can tell
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
12 titans
but no idea though
could go either way
the tartarus thing confuses me
amber fox
tartarus is the underworld isnt it?
grizzled dune
Different Place
amber fox
my bad
grizzled dune
Tartarus is where the Titans are prisoned and where the wicked are punished.
smoky cosmos
yep
amber fox
ohhh oke
smoky cosmos
and the matriarch and colossus are currently in tartarus
which makes me think titans
hearty mulch
Echidna's off doin shit after ruinin' N-type testing
smoky cosmos
but poseidon and hades are also both mentioned
so no idea wtf is going on
might just be a random assortment of gods lmao
amber fox
well. hades is the ruler of the underworld and from what i just read he is also the god of wealth
apparently
smoky cosmos
yeah
I do know that hades, poseidon and zeus are probably important
just not sure how
icy onyx
Zues isnt mentioned tho.
smoky cosmos
yeah
icy onyx
Sooo, Lets stay clear of that for now?
icy onyx
He should be...
amber fox
hes the king of olympus and the god of the skies.
but thats has nothing to do with the ingame lore
smoky cosmos
quetz is zeus? 😛
I think if we knew even 1 creature and 1 god combination
it would all be more clear
icy onyx
It would help definitely.
smoky cosmos
to contain
its a prison
but the question is, is the matriarch & colossus a titan or a monster?
because theres also Typhon and Echidna
who birthed monsters
echidna is known as mother of cannibals so I'm guessing thats different than greek myth
who is Typhon then
idk man
typhon is also in tartarus
seems weird that colossus would be typhon though 😛
doesnt make sense
river marsh
its his genetics thats making hypos though? or at least contributing to them?
icy onyx
I theorize that the juvi allo 2 call will be so cute no animal could resist giving it a hug.
sharp frigate
As cute and true as that probably will be, it isn't a valid theory. This is for lore crafting, not offtopic discussion.
hearty mulch
It isn't valid because it will never happen
viscid saddle
Baiting is also off-topic.
vocal violet
nimble flare
Olympus Transmitter.
It's safe to say that Olympus is a place on one of the islands, or the name of one of the islands, right?
nimble flare
Oh, sweet
And Site 12 is...?
an Island?
or since it is 12 I'd assume it is a portion of an island
Wait
We can view the Transmissions channel now??
harsh marsh
i dont get this transmition thingy going on
proper steppe
Site 12, there are 12 Olympians on Mount Olympus, just sayin'
smoky cosmos
no idea who the 12 olympians are though
because atleast 3 of the creatures arent olympians
unless matriarch & colossus are olympians trapped in tartarus for some reason
but no way echidna is a olympian
proper steppe
What if the sites are the Olympians? Hence why they use the Olympus Transmitter
smoky cosmos
ooo thats a thought
that probably makes the most sense
so there are 12 sites
12 creatures
sites are olympians
creatures are titans?
or just nothing
proper steppe
Yeah, something like that
nimble flare
OooOOooo
dull falcon
maybe gateway is the entrance to tartarus? idk just throwing stuff out there
dull falcon
maybe something inside (neuro maybe?) is fake broadcasting distress signals to lure people in
smoky cosmos
to the different sites
dull falcon
and possibly escape
the real question is ... is olympus a whole island? a collection of 12 islands? a facility within an island? i’m guessing it’s probably going to be somewhere with mountains since in greek mythology mt olympus is on a mountain lol
open compass
This is a bit late, but if you're looking for creature/god combos, Zeus is almost certainly the Magna Tyrannus, considering it was made as a part of project Allfather
proper steppe
Mt. Olympus is a mountain. It's an actual mountain, it's real. The tallest mountain in Greece.
smoky cosmos
DEdinosaur not so sure about that
placid harness
I'd say he is on to something.
smoky cosmos
I dont think any of the creatures are olympians
placid harness
Of course its hard to see where exactly that something is.
smoky cosmos
I think they are more likely titans
placid harness
We don't have to assign a Greek entity to every creature, but we do know there are things out there referred to as Hades and Poseidon.
smoky cosmos
yep
muted steppe
Mhm, as there's really nothing in Greek mythology with Colossus or Matriarch.
Unless you want to count the Colossus of Rhodes, but
placid harness
It would only be fitting to complete the little trio there with Zeus. Zeus is considered an Allfather of mythology, so Magna probably could be referred to as Zeus as the mysterious Hades and Poseidon things are with their respective gods.
I know full well that Zeus wasn't exactly the absolute creator of the Greek Universe but he did start a new beginning.
smoky cosmos
Yeah, but the thing with going that route, which I've been down a lot
is we can only fit 1 thing
I mean we have the OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER and 12 sites
proper steppe
There isn't a creature for each of the other 11 Olympians
Unless there is a strain that produces wine
sweet zephyr
Olympus Transmitter could simply mean it is the global network used by the faction that caused all of this.
smoky cosmos
I think the sites are the olympians
placid harness
I think its a simple designation to the specific transmitter.
smoky cosmos
under designations
proper steppe
Olympus connects the sites to Mount. Olympus, the fact that there are 12 sites suggests that they represent the 12 Olympians
sweet zephyr
It was never stated there are only 12 sites
only that the location, or where the transmissions came from.
was site 12.
smoky cosmos
nope
placid harness
We know there are at least 12 sites.
proper steppe
We know that there are probably at least 12 sites
placid harness
I personally think Olympus could be the codename for a specific set of land occupied by Apollo.
A collective designation from which all facilities work under.
smoky cosmos
that could be it as well
honestly there are like a dozen different ways it could go
placid harness
I think we can at least agree that Tartarus is probably some huge containment / imprisonment area for the more dangerous things.
Maybe if we keep retweeting and liking the Transmitter's tweets something bad is gonna happen.
It did say its a warning.
open compass
Yep
nimble cape
To retweet or not to retweet 
icy onyx
Retweet
rustic urchin
Are primal carnage and the isles lire still linked, or did they change that?
grizzled dune
Not linked.
though there will be "leftovers" or happy accidents from previous crossover attempts
such as B-442
proper steppe
^ They were linked, but they aren't anymore
mental lotus
is there anywhere I could find a complete rundown of everything we know about the story so far? and I mean COMPLETE, cause all i know about the isle is that it’s a survival game where you play as dinosaurs
magic elbow
In the pinned messages theres a link to a lore website
proper steppe
That website isn't up to date
I'd watch meaty's thing if you want to get a rundown
smoky cosmos
my video is the lore based from a year ago
most of the primal carnage stuff is probably wrong now
proper steppe
Taterfi's thing doesn't even mention the primordial yet, right?
smoky cosmos
Well atm primordial is nothing really
dull falcon
i’m currently making a new website that will be much more organized, pretty, and up-to-date. so don’t expect any updates on the pinned google site for a while btw. that’s why the pinned site is behind
sinful sable
As far as possible lore ideas are concerned it's either a Greek Primordial reference. Or something having to do with how the Dinosaurs are created at all.
If its the prior I'd imagine it has something to do with strains only
hearty mulch
maybe it's kaathe
sinful sable
Where as if it's the latter then it's just all creatures in general
placid laurel
So its project all-father right? And there is quite a few things related to Mythos, specifically the Greek one, but I haven't seen anyone even mention Odin, who is called the all-father at times, hes a seeker of knowledge, so maybe we should look there as well?
sinful sable
Norse mythos has been brought up multiple times with Allfather.
placid laurel
Ah like I said I've not seen any sorry
sinful sable
There's no other Norse comparisons in the lore so it's more likely that it's referring more to something like Zeus.
Not that Odin isn't a good comparison. It's just that there's nothing that's offering many Norse comparisons
mellow parrot
Why do I feel like posidon and hades has to do with the two corporations... probably a dumb theory but just a thought that popped in my head
river marsh
theyre two of three greek brothers, including zeus
empty quest
They could be different branches of the same company. Zeus as the main body, Poseidon overseeing any oceanic assets, and Hades overseeing black ops programs?
sinful sable
Zeus likely refers to Allfather which is the Magna. Unless there's a new Zeus reference.
Also. It's Apollo and Phoenix right?
Would be kinda interesting if it was Apophis and Phoenix.
The snake/worm devouring the light of the Phoenix.
Just some Mythology references and jokes.
glacial moth
does this mean anything?
asking for conformation
because it's from the batman vs superman trailer
coral sequoia
it doesn’t mean anything
icy onyx
ti is part of the dc universe clearly
shy basin
^
nimble flare
It's part of the BvS Trailer? I knew I'd heard it before!
sinful sable
Dondi is a man who likes to use quotes and references from things it seems so makes a decent amount of sense
gritty reef
(Quickly I noticed a lot of people referring to Zeus as “all father” which makes zero sense in Greek myths,
There are two viable options (in my opinion)
-Kronos the father of the Greek gods
-Uranus the father of the titans and by extension all life.
Though there’s a chance they might be referring to typhon as well as he is the father of all monsters and the the husband of echidna (typhon if I’m correct has been mentioned before in lore).
smoky cosmos
yeah
good ideas
I suggested cronus as well
zues doesnt make a whole lot of sense
the typhon thing doesnt really make sense either
because of echidna
no idea about uranus
zues only makes sense as something because we know hades and poseidon are lore
gritty reef
(Also quick side note: AE is actually a Latin symbol that corresponds to a number)
smoky cosmos
what number?
gritty reef
alt 146
gritty reef
Technically it’s a Latin diphthong
gritty reef
Yep
smoky cosmos
I thought you meant it was a number
gritty reef
Though it also has roots in archeology
dusk axle
so heres a question for ye all, what ethnic group does the tribals aproach more, i mean the look amazonian, but also have some native american roots in the way of dressing, so im kinda confused
sinful sable
They are store bought assets.
sinful sable
The ACTUAL ones will look more Primitive in stature. More like Neanderthals I've heard.
nimble cape
for all we know they might be different tribals on different islands
sinful sable
@nimble cape Artic BioDome. Totally.
nimble cape
reee
sinful sable
100% confirmed right now by me
nimble cape
okay but gib snow
sinful sable
That's where the Bio dome comes in.
sinful sable
Plus a snow mechanic was planned. But it stuck in dumb places
But that's not lore.
Either way. They came as a pre-made store package @dusk axle. Just random cliche native American pack
It also had a HORSE!
dusk axle
oh ok, intresting, i was thinking they could maybe even look northic or celtic, that could be cool, i was planning on using them in a fanart but given that i think ill wait till they have the actual model...
nimble cape
Well you could always come up with your own design
sinful sable
@dusk axle You can use the current design, mutant looking dooders, or use the old concept art.
Or base it off of the TSL tribals. They had decent designs.
proper steppe
Zeus and his roman counterpart are considered to be the Greek and Roman allfather
mellow parrot
First off Wikipedia is never a good source, two, those "see also" are referring to other main deities in their respective mythology
proper steppe
They are still their religion's allfather. The allfather doesn't refer to someone who is the father to all, it's more or less whoever that religion's "king of the gods" is.
nimble flare
See Also would go off pages that are more commonly visited too
The Greek Allfather would be something much older than Zeus, like Kronos and Uranus (although Im not too sure about the latter)
proper steppe
Again, no it wouldn't
Cronus and Uranus are not the Greek chief deity. Odin had a father, and definitely did not father every god, yet he is the Allfather.
nimble flare
Odin had a father?
proper steppe
Yes, and a grandfather
nimble flare
Hecc
proper steppe
Look at that definition I just gave, it refers to a supreme male god. Not someone who has fathered all.
By that definition, Zeus is the Greek allfather.
icy onyx
nah, not a hive mind, I think
a hive mind would imply they are all "linked" to a sole way of thinking
misty zealot
Not in the way of they all think the way she does
but she's behind through telepathy
that way
misty zealot
Right?
icy onyx
there's a group being all fine and dandi and she just uses telepathy to keep control on the group
misty zealot
Considering Cannibals are essentially Dondis "Isle Xenormophs", i can't look away the possibility they went under the oversight of a
"Queen"
misty zealot
Unsolved question
She's possibly related, but might not be essential for either creation/generation of them..
Maybe not related at all to the creation/generation even.
icy onyx
I mean Cannibals are quite obviously born
nimble flare
My assumption is that she (it?) turns humans into cannibals and the cannibals then serve as a hive mind. The hive mind thing would make the cannibals spookier, anyway
misty zealot
Tribal ones
icy onyx
Perhaps
nimble flare
ehh
misty zealot
If it's even possible to get to her atleast
icy onyx
Small nomad packs
nimble flare
Think of that from a gameplay perspective though. If the Echidna dies when you get to cannibal and you instantly die due to no fault of your own it'd feel pretty dirty. Of course, it could be simply the cannibals job to protect Echidna, but then they wouldnt need to be the spooky speed demons that they are.
They seem to be a lot more offensive than defensive, which leads me to believe that they dont just sit around guarding echidna
icy onyx
I believe this is more Gigeresque Xenomorph aproach
They follow and protect Echidna
But aren't physically bound to her
nimble flare
^ That would be good
icy onyx
Echidna could act as a support unit to them
nimble flare
Maybe echidna can telepathically communicate with them all, but thats just wild speculation
icy onyx
In fact it doesnt seem a really offensive creature
@nimble flare could work like Zergs and Broodmother
misty zealot
Oh boy
icy onyx
They follow and aid her
misty zealot
With the fact that the Cannibals live in Caves
icy onyx
But can survive without
misty zealot
This could work out
nimble flare
Zergs and Broodmother? What's that from?
icy onyx
Starcraft
nimble flare
Ahhh
misty zealot
You know what also potentially lives in caves?
icy onyx
Reaper?
misty zealot
"Lurking in the shadowy tunnels underneath The Isle lives the deadly tissoplastic assassin."
- Rodrigo Vega
Description of the reaper
Could it be also a pa-...
nooo no way
icy onyx
Perhaps they cooperate?
misty zealot
That would be fucky, damn
misty zealot
The little soldiers among the drones
icy onyx
"You dont hurt me i dont hurt you" way
misty zealot
"User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens."
misty zealot
Both?
icy onyx
I hope not
icy onyx
Im all for hard stuff good reward
misty zealot
BTW
icy onyx
But when you are physically limited
misty zealot
They are not
icy onyx
Y tho
misty zealot
They are exclusively super jucie lore creatures
icy onyx
Angery
Well then this just limits interaction immensely
Im super sure now
Echidna and Cannibals = Mobile Tower Defense
misty zealot
Only true interraction with them we know off is
Possible with Echidna through Cannibals, maybe?
Possible big monster-battle between Colossus/Matriarch (Matriarch is playable)
As Matriarch is possible within size range
Thing is
icy onyx
Why is Matriarch called Matriarch
misty zealot
Neither Colossus/Matriarch who's around bigger than Puerta
Is the biggest thing on THe Isle
THere's something bigger
icy onyx
Fiction?
icy onyx
Gotem
misty zealot
"fictnional creatures" could be
misty zealot
It'll cause havoc in the server for sure, and there'll be alot of "hiding"
but
if it bleeds
it can be killed
misty zealot
Best thing that could take down a strain, is a Puerta or a Human
icy onyx
Are strains unlocked permanentlt
misty zealot
No clue
icy onyx
Or you lose em when you die
icy onyx
wat
misty zealot
Like
misty zealot
Yeah The Isle is a hardcore survival game
You start out as a youngin Dinosaur
You die, you go back to a young one
misty zealot
peas?
misty zealot
No you spawn as a Juvenile
The only time you spawn as a Hatchling is if another player spawns you in through "nesting"
misty zealot
However, obviously of course
icy onyx
Even tho like 20$ for EA is a bit much
misty zealot
A Juvenile Raptor can be oneshot by a Adult Rex but
obviously you hide from it
Or run
Which aint that hard lmao
misty zealot
But the hide/seek and cops/robbers is the other fun factor
icy onyx
What if the Strain can be transmitted?
misty zealot
🤔
misty zealot
No info on that
misty zealot
Hmm maybe possible probably? 🤔
icy geyser
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING
misty zealot
But
icy geyser
THE STRAIN IS CONTAGIOUS
They even made concept art of a lizard with the hyperendocrin strain
icy geyser
and said that if it is consumed the virus will be transmitted
icy onyx
Would be interesting if the strain is the "prize" for beating a boss colossus/echidna/reapet
icy geyser
magna isn't a strain
icy onyx
I mean
That would be a secondary
Easy-to-understand-hard-to-pull-off way
While the actual one would be more complex to figure out but easier to perform?
@misty zealot lmao tho telekinetic Spino
Oof
misty zealot
Yeah that's fucky, though we're not sure if it's capable of Telekenisis/Telepathy the same way Echidna is (If echidna is sitll planned to be able to do Telekenisis)
icy onyx
Doubt
I expect Echidna to literally throw chunks of ground
Or grab dinos
Afterall that thing is 50% brain and 50% bone
misty zealot
Magnatyrannus and Magnaraptor
sharp frigate
Yeah we dunno what they are
icy onyx
Fuckthoseare
misty zealot
sharp frigate
Just that a Magnatyrannus, despite being smaller, killed a hyper rex
icy onyx
Hypos have their lower jaw broken right
misty zealot
No they don't
sharp frigate
Nope
sharp frigate
Only giga and spino have abnormal jaws because they don’t need that bite force
icy onyx
Afaik that actually hurt them
sharp frigate
in giga’s case bleed
icy onyx
Bleed?
icy onyx
Yes
misty zealot
alot
misty zealot
Nah it can make do
After all it's equipped to take on Puertas
And mass Shant herds
icy onyx
I imagine Neuro's drawback is physical weakness?
misty zealot
This is what Hyper Gigas jaws do
And yeah
Neuros drawback is exactly that
infact
it's pmuch a jellyfish
sharp frigate
They are larger than their regular counterpart though
Just by a bit
Hypos still dwarf them
icy onyx
Telekinesishit
icy onyx
Pff
misty zealot
Yeah, fucky
icy onyx
Fuckin EMP dinos
An emp that could mess with your brain informations is frightening
when you know how it works
You know what would be fun
modest flint
would emp actually mess with your mental state though? 🤔
icy onyx
for the eyes, it's not too much bullshit, tho.
The eye is filled with liquid and the electic discharge would mess with it and so your sight
modest flint
I thought EMP was to counteract humans using technology
icy onyx
What if Neuroptics could confuse other dinos by changing colors and making them see shit
Like i dunno, even strange PMs in the chat
weather manipulation
that sounds ludicrous imo
Tru
modest flint
Camo/changing color type stuff was supposed to be a Tisso thing I'm pretty sure
misty zealot
enviroment possible partially artificial?
icy onyx
@modest flint i mean force-applying weird filters to others
misty zealot
somehow possibly controllable?
icy onyx
I mean, I know you can have "influence" on a thunderstorm, but the amount of energy required is humunguous
modest flint
wouldn't be surprised if the "island" these dinosaurs are housed on was artificial
misty zealot
right?
modest flint
I say "island" because idk
icy onyx
Btw
modest flint
As far as I'm concerned the entire thing is one big testing ground
misty zealot
Riverboi?
Deinosuchus
Flyingboy?
The Pterosaurs
Sea boi?
well
uh
There's
a thing
that walks off and on the island
bigger than colossus
and could eat one
icy onyx
Ah so we got crocs
icy onyx
bigger than colossus
no way
modest flint
I mean, realistically if you're toying with such dangerous shit, you've got to have a backup plan in place incase THEY DO get out. Maybe a permimeter around the whole island that would act as a killbox if anything left it?
icy onyx
@misty zealot what is this thing
misty zealot
Have honest to god no clue
icy onyx
Seaboi
Deino too
modest flint
I mean, come on, a ptera gets out and what, flies in to the world and is suddenly free?
inner terrace
lysine contingency
icy onyx
you've got to have a backup plan in place incase THEY DO get out.
in jurassic park dinos needed lysi... thanks Tasty
misty zealot
fuck sake
modest flint
I feel like they would've been a little smarter, and had a plan to contain escaped subjects.
misty zealot
inner terrace
Remote triggered explosive implants
icy onyx
so in Jurassic Park, dinos couldn't product Lysine by themselves and needed to get it from food which mean if they got out, they'd die because the lysine was in Genetically modified food and not in the wild so they'd die
Remote triggered explosive implants
that's just Dondi's /smite or devkill
oh
shit
@misty zealot
Kaiju
you weren't kidding about the big thing, where you?
Hahayes
misty zealot
No
I was not
It is a thing
it is a thing
let me repeat that
yes it is very much a thing
No clue what it is
misty zealot
We probably do
inner terrace
Is it kaiju?
misty zealot
it could be tied to the "primordial deities"
icy onyx
Big Otachi boi
misty zealot
After all, Isle is very much keeping close to greek mythology
icy onyx
yes it is very much a thing
can I has nukes? I need them
misty zealot
With "Tartarus", "Poseidon" "Hades" and all that
modest flint
right
icy onyx
@misty zealot
I SENSE LOVECRAFTIANSHIT COMING IN BOIII
misty zealot
or maybe the big thing goes under the name of "Typhon"
inner terrace
And its not on the island of Isle?
modest flint
"existing at or from the beginning of time; primeval." is the exact definition of a primordial
misty zealot
islands
modest flint
which makes me think it's the first
modest flint
ooohoh
misty zealot
Tartarus is a "Primordial deity"
inner terrace
So like God of War Titan/Giants?
misty zealot
Which is what The Isle is referred to
No just
Greek mythos
Standard greek mythos
Usual titans imprisoned in Tartarus (The Isle)
icy onyx
Boi
misty zealot
Whether if the Titans are the Dinosaurs, the strains, the Colossus/Matriarch or the big fucking thing that could eat the colossus i don't know
icy onyx
Its Hades-deity Hades=Underworld deepest part of Hades = Tartarus
inner terrace
Is the Isle even set on planet earth? 
icy onyx
Tartarus is where Atlas is
modest flint
A jail within something?
misty zealot
Tartarus was also
icy onyx
Dagon
misty zealot
the father, by Gaia, of the monster Typhon.
And Typhon is someone i can't let slip off
"Typhon was a monstrous serpentine giant and the most deadly creature in Greek mythology. "
icy onyx
Typhon is generally used to mean the "worst of the bunch"
misty zealot
Yeah
inner terrace
How spooky can it be if it's on Earth? If the big lads aren't weapons they'd be abominations to be terminated. Fairly sure they'd sure the Island into Bikini Atoll
misty zealot
There's gotta be something "Typhon" related in the lore
icy onyx
Well
misty zealot
Wonder if even the world is aware of The Isle at all
misty zealot
That's Norse mythos
icy onyx
Midgar Serpent
misty zealot
The Isle uses Greek
icy onyx
I know
but we do have a primordial serpent creature
I do hope this Primordial isnt just a big snake
misty zealot
Jörmungandr isn't Greek however.
icy onyx
That would be a bummer
misty zealot
"off and on the island"
icy onyx
The Hydra?
misty zealot
This creature is too much of a big deal
icy onyx
The Hydra has legs
misty zealot
it has to be a big deal in greek mythos
inner terrace
Something that big gotta get energy from somewhere though
icy onyx
Hm
misty zealot
Also
" Typhon's story is also connected with that of Python (the serpent killed by Apollo)"
icy onyx
Well it lives in the sea
misty zealot
Don't forget
inner terrace
It'd need to get cereal boxes filled with rexes and I don't know if they make spoons or bowls that big
misty zealot
AE is what created the Dinosaurs
misty zealot
In Greek mythos, the Primordial Deities are following:
Aether
Aion
Ananke
Chaos
Chronos
Erebus
Eros
Gaia
Hemera
Nyx
Phanes
Pontus
Tartarus
Thalassa
Uranus
The name implies it was present at or before the beginning
misty zealot
"Chaos was the first of the primordial deities, followed by Gaia (Earth), Tartarus (the nether abyss), and Eros (Love)"
inner terrace
Thought Pontus were a civilization and Uranus was a Roman god
misty zealot
Most people tend to point fingers that the Primordial is something related to "Chaos"
after that, Chronos
which is
the personification of Time
icy onyx
We're going
So mucj
Into Eldritch territory
If this thing goes any more south we'll have Nyarlathotep knocking
icy onyx
I mean echidna is basically a Lovecraft god
Ya
Echidna is strongly reminiscent of Nyarlathotep
sinful sable
@misty zealot I've been calling Echidna controlling Cannibals for ages
Pretty much every time she's brought up.
misty zealot
honestly can't remember the last thing you said in this channel (regarding echidna)
lmao
sinful sable
Because I've brought it up in literally every other channel
I've always thought that instead of being directly lethal she would basically have Cannibals surrounding her and around in a cave.
icy onyx
Echidna doesnt look offensive by herself
Im fairly sure she's like a juvenile Xeno matriarch
Dependant on Cannibals for most stuff
The thing is tho
@sinful sable
Does she generate
Or just control
sinful sable
I've always thought Cannibals are basically "unpure" Neurotenic humans.
Where as Echidna is a compete one.
icy onyx
Hm
So you think Echidna can infect other humans?
I mean it does look like eldritch so it could have some themes of it
By the way how big is Echidna
nimble flare
I dont think we know, but we can assume that she is quite a bit larger than a human judging by the upscale of the neuro spino from it's base creature
sinful sable
Which means she's about Cannibal sized.
Since cannibals are about the same scale wise that Neuro spino is to Spino.
Depending on how Neuros are formed it's definitely possible she's a perfected Neurotenic human
nimble flare
But, the strain effects do seem to be more exaggerated on human subjects, take colossus as an example (Or Reaper since colossus being human is just speculation). So really, all we can safely assume is that she is bigger
than a human, that is
misty zealot
smoky cosmos
lol
icy onyx
🤔
shy basin
still
It never was
dull falcon
So what do you guys think about the announcement? I’m not so sure it’s a creature but idk still
No creature I know of has a red name and idk about anything in the lore besides Inferno, but that’s not canon anymore
cinder atlas
Please.
copper kestrel
🤔
pulsar knot
dondi just said block
quartz sundial
oop
cinder atlas
(And her* btw)
pulsar knot
Dondi - Today at 5:19 PM
All it means
Is anything Tap has made could be canon now.
quartz sundial
double oop
dull falcon
.... What? Are you guys talking about what I said or did someone delete their message?
umbral tusk
They’re talking about the announcement
dull falcon
I mean what Gar and Munch said lol
quartz sundial
they were reacting to something i said that i deleted
icy onyx
Am I allowed to post a theory video in here if it's about the isle? cause I did make one I just wanted to see what everyone else thought
eternal tide
icy onyx
it is canon
if you read the loading screens, one screen says basically that hypo quetz is a thing but it's MIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssy6FzgJEyU All art used is credited to Tapwing (I also got permission) But these are my thoughts on this whole Matriarch buisness (In a whole sense, I think it's a new strand.)
dull falcon
Well remember Dondi mentioned that something looks exactly / has the same concept as Tap’s tisso dilophosaurus, so that could be canon now too
icy onyx
Matriarchs DNA consists of Tisso and Hypo
So it's actually a Hybrid.
I mean strands are hybrids but
Still, it's a hybrid of a hybrid
sinful sable
Strain* And it's it's own thing. @icy onyx
It has no confirmation of even having any of the Type-Strains.
cinder atlas
And here I was thinking theories couldn't get worse.
sinful sable
@dull falcon something that looked a lot like the Hyper Dilo IIRC. Not tisso.
pulsar knot
it can always get worse gar
icy onyx
it could've been worse John, a lot worse
cinder atlas
It was Tisso, @sinful sable
icy onyx
Kinda knew it was gonna be dumb to post it but whatever. thanks guys.
It wasn't just tisso, @cinder atlas
It's Tisso and hypo, if you read the notes my friend
cinder atlas
It was just Tisso Dilo that Dondi said "That looks like something else"
icy onyx
oh, thought we were talking about the Matriarchs because here : Our third attempt at a continually adaptive non-microbial organism.
A small pterosaur blueprint infused with tissoplastic and sparring hyperendocrine material was used for it’s genetic structure.
To incentivize the creature to seek foreign DNA we used blueprints from a species of triatominae that feed off the blood of bats in order to fully develop. From that and the tissoplasti, ours should do the same and change substantially.:
That was from the study
cinder atlas
Theorizing on what is currently just fan art is not a good way to build a concrete theory.
icy onyx
It's not just fan art considering that Tapwing is a developer now, Gar.
cinder atlas
That doesn't mean anything and would be why I specified "currently"
smoky cosmos
wait
icy onyx
It's not just fanart, you'll see.
smoky cosmos
tapwing is a developer?
nocturne cosmos
Yep
smoky cosmos
this changes the entire video I just made
nocturne cosmos
So nayhtign they made could be cannon
nocturne cosmos
Welp better make a new one
smoky cosmos
No i dont need to
icy onyx
Even dondi said that most of the stuff they made could be 100% canon
nocturne cosmos
Could be
smoky cosmos
holy shit
nocturne cosmos
Wait meaty are you a time traveler
cinder atlas
RIP. And I would love for it to become official.
nocturne cosmos
Did you know this was going to happen >.>
icy onyx
Meaty that's why I thought it was a good idea to post mine, but I'm just getting shat on rn for my theory.
smoky cosmos
I just made a whole video on the matriarch
nocturne cosmos
I shall be waiting
smoky cosmos
😄
nocturne cosmos
Tho this dose open up a lot of stuff
icy onyx
Meaty it's not 100%
smoky cosmos
I know 😛
nocturne cosmos
She
icy onyx
Exactly why I made a video for it too
smoky cosmos
she
nocturne cosmos
This opens up a lot of stuff of what they have done in the past tho
icy onyx
Because I just thought maybe could be concidence and stuff with some of this stuff.
nimble cape
Better concepts for the game
It's about time
Especially considering they are making models for neuros and whatnot
amber fox
wait
guys
if tapwing is a developer now....
does that mean that this is gonna be a thing?
muted steppe
cease
sinful sable
It's too well done for what it is.
arctic swift
now that's a fli dino
amber fox
best fli dino
tacit plank
The ONLY fli dino.
cinder atlas
You know, the one warning for this chat before kicks/bans is in the channel description.
fossil lily
Idk if anyone has yet, but has anyone really said anything about the recent Olympus Transmitter Tweets?
smoky cosmos
I think we all think its colossus coming
probably AE-001 too
could even be matriarch as the colossal thing coming
cinder atlas
Or something bigger? 🤔
smoky cosmos
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dull falcon
i feel like colossus has a very long way to go and we won’t see it for a while. if the transmitter did mention the colossus then i don’t think the actual creature would be in the game, but it would just reveal more information/lore on the colossus
fossil lily
AE-001 is far from release I think
Idk if they are working on Tisso strain models, but Dondi said all 3 strains will be out when AE-001 is out
dull falcon
*all three hypos
fossil lily
Has anyone been able to get screenshots or know what has recently popped up in the Transmission channel?
dull falcon
has anything been actually popping up though? maybe the pattern of the notifications means something?
fossil lily
No
Viewing history is disabled in there
so you have to be in that chat to see it when it pops up
hearty fox
so I was thinking here about the matriarch here since I watched a certain video, and I came to think about the strains. Namely tissoplastic. Is it possible, that the matriarch could be the sort of "avatar" creature of the tissoplastic strain? Tissoplastic matriarch? I did some googling in an attempt to figure out what the word "tissoplastic" could mean, but the only thing I could really think of is "plastic", which as an adjective means that something is easy to shape or mold, or that something is adaptable. This could also be supported by the fact that tissoplastic has been in line for a rework recently, and as such previous concepts of the strain would be inaccurate, including the previous "avatar"; the Reaper. Just some food for thought. Let me know what you all think.
icy onyx
Tapwing's matriarchs seem like failed dragon experiments
hearty mulch
Dino wretch
rare prairie
Does any one have a clue on what Dondi's latest annnouncment may mean??
sweet zephyr
tapwing was made a dev
cinder atlas
Keep it to theories, people.
rare prairie
ooooohhh
high heath
So, if Tapwing is a Dev...does that mean some of their concepts could become cannon? Like the Hyper Dilo or Matriarchs.
sinful sable
Until it's confirmed to be canon it's considered fan art as of now.
nimble flare
^
dull falcon
Tapwing’s tisso Dilo has been confirmed(ish) to look similar to something that has not been revealed yet
nimble flare
Really? That tisso dilo is awesome! I wonder what the thing will be...
pale frigate
i mean, when the tisso dilo was shown i remember dondi saying something along the lines of "get out of the dev room" as a joke because it was similar to what they had in mind i guess
hearty mulch
hope tap finally got to see what they got close to
nimble flare
one thing is certain, though. Strains are about to be a whole lot cooler
not that they weren't already awesome
amber fox
youre not the smartest kid in the class are you
amber fox
offtopic. scroll down to find it @unkempt pasture
viscid saddle
Looks okay here. Did someone delete their own posts? If it happens again just do the tag thing.
river marsh
They prob did. Thanks
icy onyx
which was the big place with thicc sea dinos? One of the Atrium right^
compact salmon
a giant fish that can eat the biggest of creatures
clear mural
This isn't fish feed and grow though.
viscid saddle
This channel is specifically for talking about Isle lore, keep it on topic guys.
compact salmon
kk
ember marsh
Any lore about the isle hmmm
compact salmon
colossus breaking out
ember marsh
Hmmmm i can see the colossus in a big cage the humans looking at it but what if the power were out
By something or by someone like a cannibals
ember marsh
And now the colossus is roaming somewhere either its gonna find us or we are gonna find him
tawdry burrow
Sounds about right
ember marsh
But I'm curios if Dondi will like give us like some hints or clues not like small ones no big hints and clues that are hard to find
In the discord
ember marsh
Yeah but it would be nice for him to do that at least once
river marsh
he has. multiple times. just gotta keep an eye out for when he chats. not everything should be taken as a theory, but his hints are pretty obvious sometimes.
ember marsh
I see i may not have the game but I'm very interested in the hints fan arts and the cannibals and dinosaurs and i want to get into it but I'm a bit more interested in the colossus
ember marsh
True but i think the cannibal would be tougher
cloud fractal
Now tapwing is a dev web shld probably check over some of his art. It could all be low canon now
ancient spindle
I’ll wait until it’s announced as canon before speculating on literally nothing but Dondi saying thatTapwings Isle art is “up for grabs....”
sinful sable
"User Inquiry: The Matriarch
Coinciding with objective parameters to complete an EIP.
I have developed a completely adaptable organism within Tartarus.
Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study.
It is not correct to call it a dinosaur, but I have not given it a name. "
AE-IRT-010
Incident report transcript 32 part 2.
"...leading up to the compound itself. Upon reaching the structure, speciemen (blank space) began pacing. We expected the same type of rage one would expect from any aggressive animal, but it was subdued, focused, and calculated. She was the matriarch, and no one was taking her offspring. Not here. Not now. Not ever"
^needs to be added to the website
sinful sable
Or I got it from the old quotes on the server @smoky cosmos
smoky cosmos
hence I said paying attention
sinful sable
I was here when it posted XP.
smoky cosmos
so yeah 😛
sinful sable
Went back and grabbed them since I couldn't find it on the website
placid harness
Hades is Type-H Utah?
Or something used to refer to incidents with Type-H specimens maybe?
sinful sable
I think multiple sources refer to a Typ-H incident.
Could be why the game exists.
Maybe that's why mercs are going in. To deal with the situation, get it under control or kill it all.
smoky cosmos
hades rising up and phantoms filling the sky could just mean the hypos being released with AE-001
then
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sinful sable
It's cool but it's fine staying to Fan art during the first 24 hours.
cloud fractal
I wasn't saying it was canon just some fan art of a hypo Utah 😶
sinful sable
It doesn't need to be shared 3 times in the same day
cloud fractal
*2
sinful sable
It was shared once in fanart. Here. And in isle discussion before.
icy onyx
The Matriarch is giving me a Thing vibe
It seems that she adapts and grows in size by feeding alone
smoky cosmos
cinder atlas
That seems fake tbh.
muted steppe
That's the original H-T.rex model
cinder atlas
Yeah? Never saw it. Oh I noticed. Just thought it looked odd.
smoky cosmos
....
icy onyx
I'd rather go with this
plush garnet
Yeah. Wasnt there a case of Dondi saying that Primal Carnage is not related to this?
icy onyx
Indeed
plush garnet
'this' being the lore.
sinful sable
So we have Alphonse being Quetz
Throne breaker being H-Rex.
And AllFather being Magna? Is it possible Magnas are actually prior to H-Rex maybe?
And the long living-ness was something they prefer to get rid of?
So they went with a more powerful animal but it had a insane metabolism.
vernal crag
No, cause Magnas were made to kill Hyperendocrins. Magnas are supposed to be the "perfect" specimen, if I recall correctly.
sinful sable
Free of project tampering.
Which if Magnas are the perfect specimen then what's the reason for the Matriarch.
proper steppe
Tapwing's Matriarch is her own interpretation of it, we don't know that it's cannon. The Matriarch could be very different from Tapwing's design, for all we know.
smoky cosmos
the design for matriarch is different from tapwings
dondi already said if taps matriarch was implemented it wouldnt be called matriarch
it would be something else
sinful sable
I would assume it wouldn't be a Pterosaur vampire. Doesn't seem like the most likely thing to do. Even for the most crazy person.
vernal crag
So what do we know about the Matriarch?
pale frigate
starts out small as a compy to then grow as large or larger than a puerta. although, i do remember dondi saying something about it back in the very first discord server, that it had combat mimicry, but i'm not sure how it would work or if that would still be relevant to now if its design has changed since then
cloud fractal
So what was the need for a matriarch if they had a 'perfect' specimen with the Magna's already?
smoky cosmos
I mean they are two completely different things. Magna is nothing like the matriarch. I also doubt the matriarch can be controlled easily
serve different purposes
empty quest
Magna's are more than likely engineered with a specific purpose in mind. The matriarch was just an experiment to see how well a creature solely designed to adapt and survive to any situation would do so. At least that's what I think
icy geyser
long story short. A smart scientist boi is feeling cocky
making all these strains and dinosaurs
unique current
Or is he....🤔
proper steppe
I thought that magna was an attempt to make the perfect organism? Doesn't need to have been successful
misty zealot
sinful sable
Oh yeah. Forgot about him doing that. Welp.
supple dome
please tell me people arent still clamouring to the theory that the isle and primal carnage are still connected.
placid harness
It makes you wonder, if the strains were deliberately made for something like (maybe) war how the hell were they supposed to control them?
I mean Type-H probably doesn't have to be controlled, just maybe dropped into some area and boom everything is destroyed.
Stuff like Neuro and Tisso though is what makes makes me wonder about it.
icy geyser
Neuro and Tisso could be experiments like hypo but that have failed since they didn't know the outcome. So they made neuro, tisso, then got hypo which they polished and made magna, which were successful experiments for their purpose
Since collossus has been set free due to an electricity failure, maybe that is how the other contained strains got into the wild
vernal crag
Magna is different than Hyperendocrin I belive, otherwise it'd probably have Hyporendocrin in the name. I belive Magna was made to clean up the Hyporendocrins.
icy geyser
Scroll up
river marsh
How can neuro spino possibly be a failed experiment? It's a freaking EMP that has to be insanely useful if they can maintain control of it >.> It also blinds stuff around it and controls the weather
river marsh
It's the refined version of hypers
icy geyser
Yea
It wasn't made to kill hypos like people thought
It's another strain
The magna strain
river marsh
But in all seriousness weather manipulation is insanely powerful. Do not underestimate it o.o
nimble flare
I wonder if we'll get refined versions of other strains... 🤔
icy geyser
Probably not
river marsh
Imagine constant hurricanes over warzones.
nimble cape
Depends on how impactful weather will actually be or if it will be very impactful at all
icy geyser
Besides blowing wind and making their hair blind them
vernal crag
We don't know that. Type-M seems to actively hunt Strains.
icy geyser
But it is a strain itself
river marsh
Droughts and floods and wildfires. Once they are all in
icy geyser
If it preys on other strains, that is a different thing
vernal crag
Strains can hunt other Strains.
icy geyser
Yea
vernal crag
Remember the Hyperendocrin that showed up on a server, and then a Magna followed a similar path?
sinful sable
What do you mean it hunts other strains? It was said Magna is slightly weaker then the Hyper.
It just CAN beat a Hyper in a fight.
icy onyx
Magna probably was just territorial with the hypo I don’t think it was hunting it
vernal crag
Magna could very well be their attempt at cleaning everything up
placid harness
I'm pretty sure it was said Magna is not a strain.