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that could be it
In Greek mythology, the primordial deities are the first gods and goddesses born from the void of Chaos. In Orphic tradition, they are born from Chronos and Ananke. Hesiod's first (after Chaos) are Gaia, Tartarus, Eros, Erebus and Nyx. The primor...
:heavy_thinking:
(what am i looking for)
Anything
Fuckin Don mentioned a "Primordial"
ok im gonna look for giant fuckin snakes
Chaos be a good primordial
Chaos as in the void?
Aye, it be personified sometimes
serpent
I suppose
no
..the primordial
Sorry, I'm slow
its big, not enough to eat a planet, mind you, but a lot of things within myth are emphasized for how fucking terrifying they are
n a h dw i am too
flowchart of all this shit when
lmao
otherwise you'll be here forever
flowchart for scrubs
oof
"Chaos was the first of the primordial deities, followed by Gaia (Earth), Tartarus (the nether abyss), and Eros (Love)"
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i'll take one for the team and make it if we actually have any confirmed designations
:?
I told you it was the best primordial
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Chaos was, according to Greek mythology, the origin of everything, and the first thing that ever existed. It was the primordial void, the source out of which everything was created, including the universe and the gods."
Chaos was, according to Greek mythology, the origin of everything, and the first thing that ever existed. It was the primordial void, the source out o...
Oh
That be our Primordial?
no clue
Possibly
If that's the case, well fuck me
So maybe AE does have something from which all the things on the island came from.
Indirectly came from, maybe.
CCH thing.
OH shit
inb4 all Isle creatures are almost genetically identical.
Middle word was confirmed to be Chaos.
@hearty mulch WHY DID I MISS THAT
it's all adding up
O H
because you haven't accepted chaos into your heart

oh n o
Chronus fits the first Word.
ITS ALL ADDING UP
Chaos was only the middle word
where is proofs
yo do we have literal gods on the isle
prolly
holy heck
Perhaps not literal but symbolic of their function and origin.
xD
Chaos middle word thing was confirmed at a dev pow wow
it was recorded,compiled and saved.
You can find it in the "Archive" section at the Lore website
o o f
Named "Dondi VC-talk" or somethinjg.
giant terrifying monsters? yes please
Fun fact with that Typhon thing earlier; Typhon was Echidna's mate in Greek myth
merc's are just lil bois fighting gods
ants
Someone explore Typhon's relationship with Echidna further.
Maybe the tribals view the strains as gods?
No Ones Bringing up The possibility of that island walker.
I'm gonna poke around what the Olympus in "Olympus transmitter" might imply.
Ooo
@sinful sable i said in other chat "inb4 that big walker is going under the name of Typhon"
There's a big thing that was brought up that was said to be able to basically walk between the islands.
Ahhh. Coolio
He's been left behind but being Matriarch is coming wouldn't be much of a surprise that the island walker would be.
are sacrifices and sci fi totem magics confirmed?
" Hades trembled where he rules over the dead below, and the Titans under Tartarus who live with Cronos, because of the unending clamor and the fearful strife."
LITERAL GODS UNTIL DISPROVEN
Theories actually going somewhere, well I'll be damned
bc theories was stuck on "scifi experiment gone wrong"
Fuckin all one had to do was look at Greek mythos
:>
Fer some reason folks forgot about that
I'm fairly sure Dondi told us to follow Greek myth before
Yeah
So now what
Ye
reading about Typhon
Learning some ancient Greek myths
"Zeus asserts that Tartarus is "as far beneath Hades as heaven is above earth."" from Google
Lol it became a lot of scientists turning into cannibals and all that jazz
Something about Typhon screams important within Isle lore
derailed af
Wasn't there 12 of something mentioned before? Are there any significant 12 beings in Greek mythology?
It was reclaimed or something.
Site 12 is Olympus.
We can assume Olympus is 'Heaven' and is above Tartarus.
Ye. Though I remember something about 12 neuros unless I'm mistaken
12 Tisso Reapers iirc.
^
Ah that's it
dinosaurs are born in the image of titans š
so are transmissions coming back?
goes to check if there's 12 Greek gods
"In ancient Greek religion and mythology, the twelve Olympians are the major deities of the Greek pantheon, commonly considered to be Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Ares, Aphrodite, Hephaestus, Hermes, and either Hestia or Dionysus" From a quick search
The number 12 is important.
Jeez right on it XD
Or we are overthinking it, idk.
So there's the Titans and Greek gids
Gods
Primordial...
No we're def not for this I think
Just gotta connect the dots
"Apollo is a prime example, although Zeus freed him. The Hecatonchires became guards of Tartarus' prisoners. Later, when Zeus overcame the monster Typhon, he threw him into "wide Tartarus".[7]"
Oh boy
Makes me think of when M-rex killed H-rex.
I just remembered dondi said if you go too deep in the one pit on AE-001 you'll wake something up. Or something like that
What if they caged the primordial underground
@placid harness Er, Typhon was cast underneath Mt. Etna in the legends.
Wikipedia said it, not me.
My guess is that whatever this 'Typhon' is, it'll be under a volcano.
Oh wait typhon = colossus
That's what I thought
What if site 12 is one of multiple sites that use an Olympus transmitter.
That would be messed up af
That's a tragic story right there.
Colossus is Tom Hardy.
Where does tisso fit hmmm
i remember hearing about and seeing the name thronebreaker on twitter, what was that for?
I wouldn't be surprised if there were 12 sites that used the Olympus transmitters, in reference to the 12 Olympians I mentioned earlier
Probably
I mean he's certainly promiscuous enough for it
Zeus came as one of the links on the All-father Wikipedia page.
Has the colossus ever been named in the twitch lore streams?
Like has anything been used in conjuction with it.
All that we know is that Collossus is active within tartarus iirc.
according to the console transcription stream.
For Context:
"User Inquiry: Colossus
I do not have ļ¬les on this, but I can see it is active within Tartarus.
Someone has erased subject ļ¬les."
The Titans are kept in tartarus
Zeus seems to be the greek allfather
So magna rex is Zeus
What's Alphonse in reference too.
hes not technically in tartarus
Creation of the first quetz
(Within Greek lore) if it is in Greek lore.
ah
yea Atlas is one of the few not in Tartarus and thats because he got rekt and is forced to hold up the earth + heaven + sky on his shoulders
inb4 the slave AI is called Atlas
nah I think its just dinosaurs and mutants with greek designations, no?
odin would be the greek all father
Odin is norse
uh
Zeus is the top god in Greek mythology
nvm was thinking of cronus
Oh, yea. The Titan
Cronus is deffo a important name that shouldn't slip
Then there's Typhon, which apparently was the most dangerous entity in Greek mythology, who was mates with Echidna.
Apollo Engineering
alebit Echidna in mythology was a big ugly snake woman that lived in a cave and supposedly gave birth to most of the monsters in Greek mythology.
Whereas https://i.imgur.com/dnQVdEo.jpg
....pmuch our echidna
but even then cronus's dad was uranus right? so wouldn't that make HIM the allfather? (idk mythology much :x)
I mean she is called the mother of cannibals right, theyre pretty much monsters
Cronus, Father of Zeus, who again, Father of Apollo
Seriously someone needs to go and edit that fan wiki Echidna entry
goddess of the hunt
So the tribals patron
Ok this is more or less the Greek family tree.
https://i.imgur.com/utnrRrU.jpg
The Isle theories suddenly reminded "oh right, greek mythos"
is what you missed lmao
This is how people got closer onto the
"Primordial"
As it might be connected to the Primordial Deities
Primordial Deities being someone like, Gaia, Chronus, Chaos, Tartarus and what not
So all this sudden conversation started without new information?
yee.
Wow
It started when i mentioned Typhon
The plot thickens
Tartarus. I swear I've hear that before. 
I'll just
Specimens being active within tartarus
Rather, Isle is viewed as "Tartarus"
put this here, courtesy of Nyx 'Zamamee
"User Inquiry: Tartarus
This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the proļ¬les during phase four. "
So what are the Titans trapped at the bottom? 
So why was typhon mentioned?
To which i mentioned "inb4 that thing is called Typhon"
was a monstrous serpentine giant and the most deadly creature in Greek mythology
Defeated, Typhon was cast into Tartarus, or buried underneath Mount Etna, or the island of Ischia.
Typhon's story is also connected with that of Python (the serpent killed by Apollo)
Lotta devs are on, wonder what they think of this lol
ok so 12 specimens
Okay, so the colossus is not the bigges thing... jesus christ
Didn't Typhon have a shitload of snakes coming out of his shoulders or something?
we know most of the 12 specimens
For Reaper, at least.
We do?
all father, throne breaker, alphonse, reaper, colossus, matriarch
theres 6
all father is magna
alphonse is quetz
what about nova, aka novaraptor?
I think that bit was scrapped
So site 12, that means there is at least 12 sites. Every site could have its own specimen.
"Inquiry: Nova
Designate Novaraptor.
Status: Replicating "
also
iirc, Don wanted to have some connections to Primal Carnage, but decided against it after some crappy deal they offered or something
poseidon
lol, there are already significant connections.
Oh yeah, gimme a sec.
so thats 7 or 8
depending on the nova thing
He said there might be "leftovers" of a previous attempt.
Hades and Poseidon were mentioned during some transmission.
Still, the company, Phoenix and the CEO Lawrence Carter are still mentioned.
Eh
It said they acquired assets from them.
I think that the 12 sites are connected to the 12 Olympians
God I wish the PC crossover came through
THE FIRST PROFILE TO REACH THE NEXT PHASE SHALL CHOOSE REPLICATION. REPLICATION IS THE COUNTER-BALANCE TO FORCE EVOLUTION OF A PROFILE.
PROFILES WILL ADAPT AND OVERCOME THE OBSTACLES OR THEY WILL REMAIN OBSOLETE.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD.
IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.
Poseidon...
so 10 we know of?
eh
Perhaps those two are the ones that can roam on and off the island.
Here there be monsters, after all.
I have no idea what throne breaker is though
I tried to see if something tied in to greek
couldnt find anything
Perhaps a nod at JP3 Spino?
I know theres something in primal about it I think
Wasn't there some idea tossed around for an unseen aquatic border guard, which would grab a dino trying to swim out of the map with a giant tentacle before dragging them down?
I might be remembering things wrong
fuckin a aquatic Cerberus?
i don't know
Oh right Cerberus, that's a name i need to hold on to
There was talk of reasons why things can't leave with a...similar implication.
In PC thronebreaker is a spino
all father, throne breaker, alphonse, reaper, colossus, matriarch, poseidon, echidna, hades, primordial, novaraptor
thats 11
not sure if all those are apart of it though
iirc, Korne chose to replicate All-Father, which turned into the Magnatyrannus solus.
The other projects were deleted but there was a system reboot. The next phase was "Thronebreaker"
Hypo spino is my guess for thronebreaker
Wasn't H-Spino made before that, though?
Nah. It's already a thing.
Oh, right
I mean, I would've guessed it being a Spino (cuz PC Spino is listed as a "thronebreaker" iirc), but ya know
Though I'm also wondering... what would Magnaraptor be if Magnatyrannus was All-Father?
if that's of any relevance
Replacement for Novaraptor?
probably nothing
Need us da- Hey remember those gurgling sounds from that one code stream while back
I think the 12 are like firsts maybe
Did those ever match up with anything?
I don't remember any gurgling noises
Guessing either N-Spino or whatever made those sounds has yet to pass
Whale sounds kinda
Underwater sounds right?
Aye
Ah. I remember those.
magnaspino boi
I do believe that they remain unidentified.
sounds like a weird whale
User Inquiry: Echidna Neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen. Subject Location: Unknown Status: Missing.
so echnida human confirmed?
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I think a consideration to make is where did those generated qualities come from?
User Inquiry: Reaper Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
human
missed the bit with Dr. Vega
same could be assumed to H.Collossus or way too far off?
There are 12 active specimens
Profiles = human consciousness confirmed?
User Inquiry: Colossus I do not have ļ¬les on this, but I can see it is active within Tartarus. Someone has erased subject ļ¬les.
User Inquiry: Atrium B Aquatic Specimen Study and Development. Status: Destroyed in Operation Inferno
User Inquiry: The Matriarch Coinciding with objective parameters to complete an EIP. I have developed a completely adaptable organism within Tartarus. Once another proļ¬le is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study. It is not correct to call it a dinosaur, but I have not given it a name.
Mentoned not too long ago
User Inquiry: Phoenix Corporation History I do not have an archived history.
User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens.
User Inquiry: Tartarus This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the proļ¬les during phase four. They must learn of it of their own accord. Within parameters designated by Apollo
Engineering.
I think that bit about erased files came like 10+ seconds after the AI talked about Colossus, not sure if they're connected or not
Natural development of profiles....they're learning.
Though there also were two voices in that interview, a female and male AI voice
so we know 11? assuming poseidon and primoridal is apart of that?
and Hades.
and hades
yeah
all father = magna, throne breaker, alphonse = quetz, novaraptor, reaper, colossus, matriarch, echidna, poseidon, hades, primordial
Not exactly sure about those two, though. After all, it's all up to a "profile."
Which I assume means someone who manages to log into the Console does a specific thing?
Clarify User Inquiry.
Do not listen to the other profiles.
They are not complete.
Only one will be complete.
Access Denied.
We do not tolerate trespassers.
Inquiry Undefined.
All profiles are subject to completion.
The results will be merged.
Do you know who you are?
User Inquiry: Trespassers
Designation given to any profile that strays from parameters.
Profile subject to wipe and redistribution.
User Inquiry: Listed Trespassers
Generatingā¦
Generatingā¦
Error: Profile Wiped
couldn't find the clips for that segment :s
This is so trippy
Magnaraptor probably replaced what was referred to as Novaraptor.
Well shit
Guessing the one profile gets to escape
Via whatever means, be it physical or otherwise
They keep getting mentioned to PC aswell.
With Allfather, Magnatyrannus
The Magnaraptor
Alfie...
Bets on Thronebreaker is "Magnaspino"
would be a lil' neat
i dont understand... i thought 3 strains were coming
Don did that on his own because new mascot
Wonder if there'd be a Magna equivalent to the Hyperendocrin Colossus...
wtf is magna
Hybrid possibly
link that bitch
its about the magna
I'll toss it in #401470471750811669
watching right now
Any excuse to self advertise
lmao
you know it
I've been trying to decode all this shit slowly
everything I looked up today though
Ill give you a pass, your vids are great
is mind blowing
not sure if I can even make a cohesive video out of this
12 creatures, 12 olympians
Been following everything that's been being said in here, very interesting stuff indeed.
apollo engineering
phoenix
ect, ect, ect
tartarus, gateways
lmao
project inferno
Maybe Phoenix is Typhon.
Yes.
Phoenix Corp was boned after Operation Inferno from what I remember.
Because all their shit was taken with the help of Lawrence.
Like this shit. Apollo engineering acquired Phoenix Corp assets in Operation Inferno
Maybe the original 3 were a test run and magna was the final product
The resulting acquisition has allowed phase four of the Gateway facilities to commence
So thats why magna rex and magnaraptor are so similar to what we see in PC
Ehh....
phoenix's assets were, all father, throne breaker, aphonse and nova
Remember, Magnaraptor has the heat pits in its snout for thermal vision and a monitor lizard-like tongue for scent
but I can't remember what phase four was. too much shit to look through
Replication
Shiet
does magnatyrannus have it's own anims or was it using Hypo rex's
We should seriously consider the power of these unknown beings for a second.
Think about it, if Neuro Spino can control weather
There is no telling what these things are capable of.
IN YOUR NEXT PHASE, POSEIDON WILL RISE FROM THE DEPTHS AND CONSUME THE WORLD. IN YOUR FINAL PHASE, HADES WILL RISE FROM THE UNDERWORLD AND PHANTOMS WILL FILL THE SKY.
Currently uses H-T.rex's animations, but Don said it's temporary.
ah
same with sounds
no wonder they felt similar
Now we gotta replicate the past because profile development is gross now but within parameters
I mean, Khorne somehow did it
Don't listen to the other profiles, they are not complete
albeit he chose All-Father / Magnatyrannus at the time, and like I mentioned the other two were wiped.
Then system re-boot
mhm.
And then this cryptic bull
Not everyone among you is honest.
You should consider who is telling the truth and who is not.
Only one of you will be complete.
Only one of you will remain.
also poseidon and hades could be referring to other creatures
like the matriarch and shit
Part of me wants poseidon to relate to horses, but the rest of me knows better
Interesting stuff.
In Greek mythology, the primordial deities are the first gods and goddesses born from the void of Chaos. In Orphic tradition, they are born from Chronos and Ananke. Hesiod's first (after Chaos) are Gaia, Tartarus, Eros, Erebus and Nyx. The primor...
^
He mentioned adding "The Primordial" though.
Maybe the "trust no one" thing is a red herring.
Lmao
chaos
Someone fetch the loading screen about the landing pad and the government
AE-IPS-003
Executive Helipad
Executive Heliped is restricted to the board and goverment officials only.Perimeter gate between the airfield and executive hotel is (blank space).These restrictions are lifted only in the case of emergency protocol (blank space) (blank space).
I find the one about the matriarch interesting
So, the Government knows about this. We need to know which one, and what their involvement is.
So uhhhh Who exactly has permission to see the message history in transmissions?
greek gods, probably mods, and devs
Not even i can
greek gods and devs
Heck
lmao
did anyone ever figure out the tweet I N S O M N U S
bet your left nut playable humans will have an incentive to capture live specimen (dino players) to run tests and see what happens. if the specimen breaks free of containment, you are now a wild strain
Somebody was tired
I think that remains unsolved.
Something doesn't sleep
Maybe it refers to good ol Morpheus
well its not a anagram lmao
theres a database pinned for whats been solved n shit unless thats not updated
it isn't, last I checked
figured
Wait no, Hypnos
I dont think its an anagram
Sleep god
RIP
Or, if it is an anagram, it is for a word that isnt in the english language, like a name or Isle specific term
lmao
Anyway gonna leave the book Insomnus' stuff here
"Bryony "Bryn" Winters can harm people by dreaming. With no control over whom she hurts, a condition called Somnus, Bryn can't even be sure she won't kill her own family. Protecting them means running away and trusting a mysterious company that possesses as much authority as amorality. And when Bryn meets Cedar Blackthorne, a Somnus with captivating eyes, she can feel he's hiding something. So why can't Bryn help trusting him? And what if she's making a deadly mistake?"
Probably not related though
Like really sure it isn't related
Thereās still quite a bit of codes and transmissions that are still unsolved (in my website you can check them out) but thereās not much information there to give any hints. A lot of them are just blank spaces or random numbers / letters without any other information.
Thereās also some archive / story stuff that isnāt fully understood yet.
Also I just now noticed something in the archives. I could be wrong, but it seems like Apollo Engineering actually didnāt create the Magnatyrannus. I think it can be confirmed that AE did create the three hypo, tisso, and neuro strains, but the Operation Inferno logs show that they aquired the Allfather (magna) assets from Pheonix Corporation. But why would PC create the Magna strain? ...... Well itās known that PC and AE were fighting over assets, possibly using bioengineered dinosaurs as weapons, including the strains. If AE was using a hypo rex, PC needed something to combat it. They might have created the magna strain as a counter-measure to AEās hypos. AE obviously wanted to stop this, so they seized the magna assets in the first step of Operation Inferno.
The two specimens listed could be the ones PC created and used / planned to use against AE. AE might have assassinated them to prevent them from being released against AE, then taken the samples. They then started the process of creating their own magnas (replicating)
unfortunately PC and TI have no connections with eachother
Cept the whole Phoenix Corp thing being canon. If in name only
did dondi originally plan to have PC being connected to TI?
Before PC supposedly made a crap deal, yeah
Yeah, what I said was just a theory and everything in it is based around the idea that PC is canon. This could have been true at the time it was created, but since then it could have been scrapped since the crappy deal
Ello isle official discord. I have come to show you all my theory
I honstley think the hypo starin creatures were made as a fail safe for the isle to kill everything on it, the reason why they are all carnivores and not herbivores. The hypo would then die of hunger when it was done killing every dinosaur on the isle. Now on to the magna, I believe the magna was made to be a militarized dino for battle. The reason why they wouldnt use the hypo is for the fact that most land based battles will than leave the battlefield after eating and eat innocents, maybe. The magna isnt as strong as the hypo, so the army could kill it off easier. The rest of the strains other than the hypo strain are also made for battle I believe. The neurospino concept said that it could cause and emp (electro magnetic pulse). However this is all just a theory, so please support or disprove this with evidence.
Please give some evidence to support or disprove this theory because I know it's really dumb
Hypos would work pretty well to kill off dinosaurs if things went wrong
The theory isnt bad
....I am totally lost on what you guys are talking about with all of this talk of Greek Gods and Primordial and Primal Carnage's companies and all of this.
Could... could someone give me the Cliff Notes version?
What if this Primordial thing is referring to a being/creature that existed during the dinosaurs. Something so godlike that if replicated holds more power then what the people thought?
Or its this Primordial the key of what brought back the dinos, only to bring back something we have never seen before?
Fuck it, I'll come back when I haven't been awake for nearly 24 hours.
The devs have told us to look into greek ties with some animals long before this.
For all we know, there are several Primordials. Maybe they are the origin for the strain's quick acting mutation abilities?
I'm still wondering what the designation "All-father" could imply.
Zeus comes up as one of the items when you search All-Father on Wikipedia. Maybe we need to see if Zeus' story mirrors anything?
Let's see....
"CronusĀ sired several children byĀ Rhea:Ā Hestia,Ā Demeter,Ā Hera,Ā Hades, andĀ Poseidon, but swallowed them all as soon as they were born, since he had learned fromĀ GaiaĀ andĀ UranusĀ that he was destined to be overthrown by his son as he had previously overthrown Uranus, his own father, an oracle that Rhea heard and wished to avert."
Cronus was the father of Zeus, and several other gods. Maybe this could be in relation to Phoenix Corp. having possibly created the Magnas?
"When Zeus was about to be born, Rhea sought Gaia to devise a plan to save him, so that Cronus would get his retribution for his acts against Uranus and his own children. Rhea gave birth to Zeus in Crete, handing Cronus a rock wrapped in swaddling clothes, which he promptly swallowed."
If we were to mirror Greek lore in this direction, before Magnatyrannus was created there was some inter-company conflict already going on. We know Allfather was the attempt at the perfect organism. Maybe Magntyrannus was intended to be the downfall of the company Phoenix Corp. Phoenix may have been pre-occupied with terminating other specimens, because they knew shit was going to hit the fan real soon for other reasons (possibly conflct with Apollo).
"Rhea hid Zeus in aĀ caveĀ onĀ Mount IdaĀ in Crete. According to varying versions of the story:"
Whoever made Allfather hid its creation and development somehow, maybe with collaboration with a few of Apollo's inside folk?
"After reaching manhood, Zeus forced Cronus to disgorge first the stone (which was set down atĀ PythoĀ under the glens ofĀ Parnassusto be a sign to mortal men, theĀ Omphalos) then his siblings in reverse order of swallowing. In some versions,Ā MetisĀ gave Cronus anĀ emeticĀ to force him to disgorge the babies, or Zeus cut Cronus'sĀ stomachĀ open. Then Zeus released the brothers of Cronus, theĀ HecatonchiresĀ and theĀ Cyclopes, from their dungeon inĀ Tartarus, killing their guard,Ā Campe."
The stone decoy that was used in place of Zeus was taken amd put elsewhere. In terms of the Isle, no idea what that could imply. Now, the "siblings" could be other Magnas or specimens created, and they somehow got replicated / brought back and were released. Then maybe Magnatyrannus is somehow smart and releases a bunch of things from wherever Tartarus is (intentionally or as an accident). This whole mass escape or uprising could have been orchestrated by Phoenix as Operation Inferno.
I'll finish this theory later, feel free to tell me why I'm wrong in the meantime.
That actually kinda makes sense. Iām not sure if it would completely model the story of Zeus and the gods themselves, but it sounds cool. The only thing thatās wonky is the magna being smart. Thereās no mention of it being smarter, but it could have released the other dinosaurs by destroying the facility in an attack.
It could have made a hole in the fence and they yeeted out or something like that lol
Um....there's no way anything is brute forcing it's way out of that area. Have you seen the fence? O.o
Tru tru
Not saying they couldn't escape but they either were released or slipped through the gate
Or another route
Maybe the attack on Cronus could be Operation Inferno? The fence could have been blown up by explosives during the attack and they slipped out
Because AE would have had to get through fences to get to PCās assets in a lab or something
If this theory was even true lol, thereās not much evidence there
phoenix's ceo went missing, so there wasn't a ton of defense left other than fences, right? one of my thoughts was that allo shares that 'exaggerated' feel like some other phoenix-created dinosaurs
edit: B-442 and B-443 are mentioned in one of the pc loading screens, as well as on a bulletin board somewhere
pretty sure b 443 and 442 are the magna raptor and magna tyrannus
they have to do with project allfather
where did you get that picture?
I just wrote out a whole two page transcript for my next Isle video relating to the story and the things we know so far about the 12 specimens and locations within the isle
So what is the theory about because im confused
Is this a theory on primal carnage or the isle
the isle
And is this the actual meaty lock as in the you tube channel
Thanks
Well I have a theory on the isle, that the hypos are a failsafe protocol, let me explain.
pic's from the rex loading screen for primal
another thing is that the original pc rex was nicknamed big daddy, which has some similarities to the term allfather
Magna could just be AEs reproduction of the PC rex
They wanted to mess around with the genome they stole and what not.
Mix it with a little bit of Hypo and a little other things sprinkled in (so they could trade mark it themselves)
I'n the end Dondi likes JP. And that's somewhat similar to what was going on between Ingen and BioSyn(?)
I know they are using Greece names for there projects but The All-Father was the name of Odin in Norse if that gives any prospective on anything. The all father thing just interested me so I put that.
Just with less fat bastards shutting off power and more Mercs being sent in to kill everything.
And steal shit.
if you have any primal-related questions just hit me up, i've done a stupid amount of research on the lore just due to my fascination with it
You already said that before
The fact the Magna was created and seemingly released into the Type-H enclosure makes me feel either they(the AI?) didn't WANT the Hypos let out yet.
Or was starting to do its own failsafe. The safety of the assets over the safety of humans
We still have an AI who seems to run the entire islands by itself...
Wait an ai runs the island
Via the Twitch streams that seems the most likely
Something either released them indirectly or the failsafe protocol has been activated
I'm imagining if there's any sort of time line to the lore streams
Ok does anybody know what the wall of the hypo containment facility are made up of. Are the electrical or concrete
That something caused a break out, people on the island got attacked by cannibals(presumably), and mercs came shortly after IIRC
What I was also thinking
There is also phoenix corparation in primal
Already talked about. Similarity is references and name only
But if the walls were electrical in the hypo enclosure then the neuro spino might have released them. The concept for them says that they have an emp ability I believe.
The animations shows an EMP
Wait they do?
Haha
Always showing up with brilliant tips
Thanks for the clip dilo raptor
Yeah what does that stand for
Nevermind
The signs are all there this is the work of aliens.
Im just kidding
Pho is crested in Latin.
Aliens created the strains to kill off anyone who opposed his opinions in allosaurus
Other wise Diloraptor is just double raptor
Oh
Dilophoraptor is double crested.
The magnatyrannus is what we had to create to combat aliens and his evil ways
Then why isn't there a Hypo allo
Exactly
Oh wait. Never mind. Normal allo is hypo allo
Look at his thin frail body.
He's teeny boyo
(Joke on the fact Hypo means the opposite of Hyper. Hypo has just been used so much it stuck)
Wait look at this grammer error right here "to combat the aliens and his evil ways"
This is the work of communist dilos
Dilos are the higher species my friend
What have we gone to
so
in primal carnage whats b-443 and b-442
hmmm
443 is a rex right?
and its the magnatyrannus in the isle
dondi your gonna love my video lmao
I'm making a video right now
been writing it out and researching for hours lmao
doing the voicework on it now
its basically a isle lore video
interesting, please link when done.
trying to figure out who drive, chance is though
I figured it was someone in primal carnage
since those assets we're acquired from phoenix
here's the alfie info from pc, it's found in atrium c/pc_contingency
appreciate it
Are there more than the 22 The Isle OSTs we got a year ago?
my biggest problem is I dont know much about primal carnage lore
waddigator have you heard of a person called drive chance?
or chance drive
there's quite a bit, but you have to dig a lot. and no not really, but there's RM initials everywhere
within PC or TI?
the lawrence one was easy obviously
within PC
chance created alfie
or gave the moniker alfie
errr
he/she is apart of phoenix
which is apart of primal carnage
didnt say it was
I just said the lawrence thing was easy
CEO of phoenix
obviously giving inside information to AE
which is the Isle
we got some corporate espionage going on
maybe that's why lawrence went missing lol
@placid harness Regarding the All-Father, I don't think that it's from Greek myth.
The only All-Father I can remember in Mythology is Odin, from Norse myth
Wait a minute are you guys saying Primal carnage and The Isle are somehow interconnected and take place in the same universe?
Associated with wisdom, healing, death, war, and sorcery.
yes miller
Meaty have you read up on everything in the pinned site? Thatās everything we know so far about the lore
Might save you some time
It's been known for a while. @silver hamlet.
Certain parts of Isles lore line up with PCs. (Although it's still in name only)
As such no PC resources will come in.
yes taterfi
honestly its not very helpful lmao
as it doesnt explain anything in relation to primal carnage
nor the story
alright, iāll just put a link to ur video on the site when you release it lol
also it doesnt have any information related to greek mythology
which wont be in my video
maybe a future one
no but we've been told and its pretty obvious a lot of the lore relates to greek mythology
for example
tartarus holds the titans
the colossus and matriarch are in tartarus atm
are they titans?
12 creatures that were created or whatever
they the 12 olympians?
ect
also
poseidon and hades are coming in phase 5 and 6
after replication
also greek
whether those are literal creatures or its allegorical hasnt been explained
but I'm trying to piece it together lmao
also this all seems to be a war between The Isle & Primal Carnage
yes i have that in there (poseidon)
Apollo VS Phoenix
Yep, but iām still not sure if itās actually canon? People have been saying different things
Wait the the viewpoint on Primal and Isle's connection change? Last I heard the references are there because Dondi wanted to connect them but couldn't, so they are basically name references now.
well we're going to assume its canon
It's a shame that PC supposedly offered a shitty deal for TI when it came to lore.
but oh well what can you do
^
because of thronebreaker, lawrence carter and other references
and phoenix itself
so it has to be canon
If that has all changed then we havent been told
so I'll go with what I know atm
Fairly certain the actual PC link was declared not canon a while back, and is now a separate Pheonix etc. or something like that
well even if its seperate its still intertwined with primal carnage
ye
as all that information comes from primal
Iām just gonna assume that itās all canon for now
Also does anyone have access to viewing #transmissions yet?
nope
Also what did you guys think about my theory about the Magna? Do you think I can confirm that the magna was created by PC as a counter-measure against AEās strains?
Stuff is being posted in there since the text goes white every now and again
it does bear a pretty close resemblance to the pc rex
I want ti add it to the site but iām very wary about adding stuff thatās not really true
@dull falcon where is it?
Scroll up
umm
I think the magna is a perfected hypo strain
as for a countermeasure against hypo I have no idea
I feel like it'd have to be more spiky to be a hyper creature
Itās supposed to be āthe perfect creatureā
We think the my edited the hypo strain to make it more balanced
Less energy consumption, etc
"Free of project tampering"
@dull falcon I'd say it depends on when the Magna was actually thought up. If it was before Dondi decided against the universe link then it could be viable. And the Magna and Primal Rex do share some visual similarities
but theyāre dead now lol
B-443 and Magna aren't the same animal
destroyed in inferno
^
And they do look different
b-443 isnt the magna?
then why is 443 and 442 related to project allfather
443 is the magna
They are related
Maybe heās talking about the magna in the tweet reveal?
User Inquiry: All-Father Designate from Specimens B-442 and B-443. Status: Destroyed in Operation Inferno
Oh damn that means Big Daddy died
@smoky cosmos
B-443
yeah, but what is it?
It's a generic Primal Rex
....
replicated doesn't necessarily mean exactly copied
^
But he does keep the shackles, or was planned to, in the finished game
could still be the same thing possibly
I still think 443 is the magna
I donāt think the primal rex itself has any link to the game
^
we're asserting isle lore on primal
443 is 100% a magna
not the other way around
primal rex is said to grow to over 50 feet in length, if it helps
magna raptor?
hmm
yes! iāve been wondering that too
probably not the magnaraptor since the novaraptor is smaller than it, different head shape too
we know throne breaker is a type of spinosaurus
novaraptor's a hybrid, presumably of a ton of species
yeah nova is a hybrid
but I'm wondering what it is in the isle
also the fact that nova was never mentioned again
It's not in the isle?
makes me wonder if it was scrapped
they mention allfather, thronebreaker & alphonse again
but not nova
@smoky cosmos Nova means "new" in latin so novaraptor basically means new raptor
it also reffers to a female
So potentially a female hybrid raptor
Also Atrium C & B are in primal, but were destroyed in operation Inferno
Atrium C is most likely where Alfie was stored
could be that the pc mercs managed to kill them off
Alphie is still āactiveā btw
So idk if AE has control of it or if itās just flying around
it has limited flying capability, so it would be an easy capture if you had the equipment.
poor thing had reduced muscle mass in the wings
omg I cant find anything related to drive chance / chance drive
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/143170871287087105/272861903720546304/CD1_Redacted.jpg something from the pc discord.
I mean. There's...4 "novaraptor" types. So I would imagine the Magnaraptor is taking what they got from Magnatyrannus and Big daddy and working it into a smaller creature
Is there anything in reference to the "Alpha" Nova.
I think Alpha Nova (if you're talking about the official skin) was supposedly a hybrid between the feathered and non-feathered variant
all of the 2.0 raptors were stillborn, though, unless ae took that genome and fixed the issues
"Near 100% infant mortality rate" means some survived
Some survived and we're mentally broken basically.
Fatalities are low. Deformities are high. And they were pushing for a Version 3.
Just reminded me from the thing news article thing waddigator posted, I think a Primal dev said at some point the method Phoenix used to get dinosaur DNA was crushing down lots of bones, hence the museum raids, not relevant to current conversation though.
I doubt all V2 had actually been deceased.
I Mean. These guys are SHADY.
So lying about a batch to get funding and such for a third is likely IMO
just noticed, according to the spino loading screen, 443 is 60 feet? that's a lot bigger than the rest of the pc rexes
phoenix had a lot of ethical issues
Dinosaurs got downscaled from PC to PC:E (well actually the human models were enlarged to help with animation issues)
Well all the doors and stuff in the maps haven't changed size so you could probably work it out from that. Though I doubt the size change has any importance whatsoever in terms of lore.
And yeah Phoenix were pretty dumb with their strategies
I remember in a stream Dondi was playing as magna and someone mentioned how it looked like the Primal Carnage rex. He said they were not related at all....
Shit escaped all the time, frequent illnesses and deformities etc.
^^ yeah that's what I was trying to say earlier
the phoenix cryolophosaurus hyperventilates if it doesn't spit its acid bile
Are these all screenshots from Primal Carnage?
from ingame maps and loading screens
I feel like the mention of the Novaraptor in the terminal conversation is just a little easter egg.
Your way overthinking it guys. I'd go back to isle stuff. It's prob just Easter eggs now
^^^
^
"ASSIMILATE THE MAGNATYRANNUS. BECOME THE KING."
.....Why am I getting vibes from John Carpenter's The Thing?
I can't help but be reminded of Tapwing's Matriarch idea.
Perhaps she was closer to the mark than we thought.
if the pc bit is canon at all, i assume that ae either bought the company after lawrence's disappearance, or took ownership of the island
AE never bought the company. They used deadly force lol
But Iām getting the vibes that the terminal conversations are mostly easter eggs
i'm curious about what caused them to discard the idea, i saw something about a deal and that pc's end wasn't good?
That's all we know
The deal that PC people put forward (pretty sure it was legal blokes, not the devs) was kinda bad so it was ignored
So... did Operation Inferno never actually happen?
Wasn't operation inferno the name of the PC gameplay?
It didn't happen or the Phoenix in The Isle's lore is unrelated to the Phoenix from Primal
Like isn't that what Inferno was. The mercs going to the island and killing things
Also god damn Carnotaurus was beef
Also the missions on that first screenshot are just explanations for the gamemodes, TDM, GTTC, CTE. The other two would've been Hunt and Survival
"A blast of morse code was transmitted before the release that translates to "IT'S BEEN A WHILE""
....Sudden thought occurs.
What if it wasn't a human that made this particular message.... but the neuro?
Would be interesting if the Echidna did that. Since I would imagine the Echidna would have been around for a decent while
Where it says "Length: Up to 60 feet" that was in reference to the PC:E Spino because it was on the loading screen.
iirc Operation Inferno is something we'll one day experience. As another gamemode/singleplayer/coop deal. Which probably will take place in the past.
Sounds like a fun gamemode. Break into labs and set fire to shit
@barren kelp How'd you manage to get just the textures?
it was actually posted in the pc discord by dinosauriac
in generalchat?
what are those signatures
M. Hart? J.Crane, R.M., Lawrence Carter
and cant see the other two
The 5 mercs plus Carter
RM isn't quite a merc, I think it's actually the artist's initials lol
My brain I though the isle wasn't connected in anyway to PC >.>
ah
@nocturne cosmos It's not canon-joined. But there are lots of references from when there were plans to merge them
It's the revival of PC:G we always wanted
Yes I remember back in the old days when we had 20+ people in the vc
It'd be hilarious if we got kaprosuchus, there was such a craze about it back then
InB4 TSL is secretly the cause of all this
Am I tripping
Or did someone post a message and delete it immediately after
I think so
Kaprosuchus i think was talked about. But it would likely be short legged boyo
And food.
Oh that were me
I said kapro would be a good AI broseph to have around because smol but unique headed croc. But then I remembered it was #isle-lore-theories
Ah. I thought it was referenced before officially. What ever. Not theory anyway.
^
That sounds pretty good to me. Dunno if Cave used the 'because we can' motto, but that parallels JP a little because of the "because they could" dialogue. Neat
but are the references to Primal Carnage in the terminal conversations canon tho? š¤
I mean...Halo has Red vs Blue stuff in it.
Like, actual conversations from freelancers.
Wouldn't be farfetched.
But idk about any copyright issues and such between Primal Carnage and The Isle
Hmmmm
Is this the greek gods of The Isle video?
not greek gods
I didnt get much into the greek aspect
unless that was a joke based on my previous video š
I'll be waiting. Can't wait to see it.
Note of "Primordial"?
So is the video on everything we know so far or just the greek god stuff?
Lol that video is gonna save me so much time on my website! I can just slap in the link instead of creating new pages and typing out the story. Hope you donāt mind lol
kind of everything we know so far
it still doesnt explain a lot
nothing to do with greek mythology
The Isle - The Story We Know So Far... Phoenix Corp vs Apollo Engineering, Matriarch, Primal Carnage š SUBSCRIBE āŗ http://bit.ly/1T9b8YG | PREVIOUS EP āŗ http...
oh?
btw I dont think drive, chance is a name
Exactly 10 minutes I see š
its just drive & chance
^ that's what I thought
The video was great! Also in greek mythology Tartarus is where the actual punishment of souls takes place.
May be another character but Chance was the one to "talk" to the second AI during the console transcription.
"[MALE VOICE]
Hello, Doctor Chance.
How can I help you today?"
galli Ruler was his twitch username.
yes taterfi it is
but didnt see how that related to the colossus and matriarch
figured titans was a better explanation
Yeah it makes more sense that theyāre the titans being held (to protect the outside world?)
but even if we know its Doctor Chance I still cant find any references besides that
So hey, I just saw MeatyLock's theory video, and I just realized something: This is literally JP!!!! Cause as Meaty said, there's 2 corporates that are in a conflict, and the same thing happens in JP! Which is InGen vs Biosyn!!!
Yeah Dondi said he always wanted to make a JP game, heās probably gonna model the story after JP
It isn't literally JP, in fact don't most stories involve 2 different factions?
I know, I'm just saying that most of The Isle's plot has most of the same plots as in JP
Also Meaty mentioned that thereās 12 creatures in the game that might have resemblance to the olympians. Which creatures are they? I want to try to find similarities between them and the gods
yeah we know that Dondi at one point wanted to go a ARK route as well
but I think ARK kind of ruined that for him
It isn't all that similar to Jurassic Park outside of man made dinosaurs
I said before it's basically JP but less fatbastards and more Mercenary raids
Anyways did you guys enjoy the video and the information?
Yup š
I tried to check for information about Dr. Chance on Google, couldn't find anything
There are lore tidbits on the Atrium map in Primal Carnage, so maybe he's mentioned there
your videos are nicely edited and get to the point Meaty, keep up the good work.
Thereās that notice board thatās in the Atrium A and C maps, could be some reference on there
Though I doubt any information found there will be that useful
Another thing I'd like to mention is Magna means great in latin
Nova means new
I think magna might be a different naming scheme
but for the same creature
poseidon could be thronebreaker
yep
tyrannus can also be translated into "a prince; one that reigns"
not sure why you deleted your post
It's been said before that Magnatyrannus Solus = Mega Tyrant of the Sun.
You can check it by yourself in one of the recorded dev pow-wows
around the 06:35 minute mark..
Hyperion for one
noooo
apollo
titan
We've been told to play with the following statement :
"Apollo pulls the sun across the Sky"
honestly though
I dont think we're looking at olympians
I think we need to be looking at the titans
when it catches sol. it will be there at ragnarok