#isle-lore-theories | The Isle Official Discord | Page 189

icy onyx Apr 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Or is that also Jr. ?

misty zealot Apr 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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There's no "Sub-tisso" or anything

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It's just somethin' a youtuber fabricated

icy onyx Apr 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Ah, gotcha.

misty zealot Apr 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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👌🏻

icy onyx Apr 8, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Appreciated.

scenic scarab Apr 8, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Ye I've seen these and knew what they were but forgot to take screenshots and now I never see them

covert chasm Apr 8, 2018, 12:55 PM

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I'm most curious about what the 3rd image is.

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Maybe I'm just blind but I can't figure it out.

scenic scarab Apr 8, 2018, 1:04 PM

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you mean 4th?

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bc 1 and 3 are neuro spino

sinful sable Apr 8, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Last one is the Hypo Giga picture

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Where it's head is slightly turned and it's roaring. Doesn't look like a drawing but a screenshot

proper steppe Apr 8, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Did taterfi ever get around to putting the primordial in the site? Could be a useful to prevent people forgetting about it.

wary eagle Apr 8, 2018, 7:44 PM

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What if herbivores only eat blue bushes because they're the only things full of lysine?

sharp agate Apr 8, 2018, 7:47 PM

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they're full of delicous gatorade

blissful hound Apr 8, 2018, 9:46 PM

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ThEiR MaKing A HypPo TAco

proper steppe Apr 8, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Wrong chat

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Put that somewhere else

river marsh Apr 8, 2018, 9:52 PM

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@sharp frigate sorry for the ding but i didnt want to bother all the mods at once. lots of shitposts above.

sharp frigate Apr 8, 2018, 9:53 PM

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👍 No worries, tag me whenever

sharp frigate Apr 8, 2018, 10:29 PM

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I kicked 2 others for shitposting. Don't be a 3rd. @knotty lichen

knotty lichen Apr 8, 2018, 10:30 PM

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hides

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K.

shy basin Apr 10, 2018, 1:26 PM

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thats fucking weak mate

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at least put an actually scary picture

orchid nimbus Apr 10, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Finally I get to see random off-topic stuff in this channel and it's this turd
Why people even bother?

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:02 PM

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I agree with that @shy basin

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:03 PM

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its been said, at least about the tissoplastic material, that its something pre existing that you inject into organism

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as was mentioned with humans who turned into the reaper iirc

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:03 PM

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The strains are confirmed to be artificial

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but they prob were experiments

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:03 PM

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so what if there is something that can turn you back to original form

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:03 PM

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the idea that a perfect organism was being made is also mentioned multiple times so maybe they just did it for science sake

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Would be stupid

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I mean it'd take more resources to turn it back than to kill it

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:04 PM

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right

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but still there would be the fact there is a cure

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:04 PM

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the gameplay described for mercs also suggests that contingencies have already failed

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or maybe the strains are controlled after all and its a second experiment 🤔

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:05 PM

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🤔

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:05 PM

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A "cure"?

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Is it an illness

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?

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:06 PM

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its a mutation

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cancer is a mutation

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cancer can be cured

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:06 PM

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^

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:06 PM

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Yes But cancer is an out of controll growth

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:06 PM

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that doesnt change its basic definition

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the nature of the hyperendocrine mutation isnt fully known

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:07 PM

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and hypos have minds, they would prob have to be mutated in their eggs or even before

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To be such successes

icy onyx Apr 12, 2018, 3:07 PM

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who knows if it was during embryo stage they were mutated

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or full grown

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:08 PM

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I mean Cancer can be cured in it's early stages, whatever the strain mutations are they are not early stage

ancient spindle Apr 12, 2018, 3:08 PM

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Considering they don't have life stages that we know of, it's probably not during their early years lol

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:08 PM

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yet

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:08 PM

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( right now at least)

shy basin Apr 12, 2018, 3:09 PM

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the store page says you rise to apex predator and mutate from there or something like that

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:09 PM

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good point

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But "reversing" a mutation I assume is much harder than mutating

ancient spindle Apr 12, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Idk if reversing a mutation is possible, ofc we don't know what kind of technology is behind the strains and dinos, and it's a science fiction game so not like any of that holds any relevancy

sinful sable Apr 12, 2018, 3:20 PM

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how do the strains have a Cure?

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when has that been said?

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the surviving reaper wasnt said to be changed back. it was stored as a surviving reaper specimen

scenic scarab Apr 12, 2018, 3:22 PM

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If I saw him as a utah I'd be like: "Oh, daddy'oh grant me your infinite hunter's wisdom, no price is too big1"

sinful sable Apr 12, 2018, 3:34 PM

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as he slits your throat

cinder atlas Apr 12, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Reminder to check the channel rules.

high heath Apr 12, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Yeah, I don't think there is a "cure" for Strains.

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Just things that make them weaker and eventually die off.

sharp frigate Apr 12, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Dondi did say the Magna Rex wouldn't sound similar to Hypo Rex, so maybe it's not an in-between state of hypo?

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@quartz grotto ^^

icy onyx Apr 13, 2018, 12:39 AM

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They could be tied somehow tho

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Like a magna rex mutation went wrong = hypo rex

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but I doubt

hearty mulch Apr 13, 2018, 12:41 AM

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My guess is no since the strains seem to predate the dinosaurs

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I feel like Magnas won't simply "mutate" from other creatures like the strains possibly could. Maybe survivors have to put a dinosaur in some old chamber and pull a captain america.

peak siren Apr 13, 2018, 1:04 AM

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I don’t think magna is a mutation it looks as if it’s been modified like that god awful indominus

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Wait. What's the Magnaraptors Species name?

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Since they are using Binomials it seems for Magnas

proper steppe Apr 13, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Solus, Sol, something like that

muted steppe Apr 13, 2018, 1:43 AM

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No, Solus is Magnatyrannus.

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Magnaraptor vulgis.

proper steppe Apr 13, 2018, 1:48 AM

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What would vulgis mean?

nimble flare Apr 13, 2018, 1:51 AM

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after some quick google searching It seems to mean 'crowd' or 'mob', which would make sense for a raptor, but I could be wrong

proper steppe Apr 13, 2018, 1:52 AM

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So it's vulgaris?

nimble flare Apr 13, 2018, 1:53 AM

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it seems to be a variation of Vulgaris or vulgus

peak siren Apr 13, 2018, 2:01 AM

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Imagine a pack of magna raptors oh man

hearty mulch Apr 13, 2018, 2:04 AM

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📎 h_q_breach_by_tapwing-dbyxvti.png

icy onyx Apr 13, 2018, 2:05 AM

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such a cool picture

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 2:06 AM

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Where is that picture from?

icy onyx Apr 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Fan art by tapwing

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I believe it is an H-Type Quetzalcoatlus

muted steppe Apr 13, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Munching on Magnaraptors, yes.

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 2:09 AM

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TBH. Would be interesting to see Magnaraptors break into the Atrium and the Quetz just dive bombs one as the others look at it screeching "WHAT THE FUCK"-in raptor-

peak siren Apr 13, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Just a lil shnack

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I have to say that quetz looks terrifying

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Back to theories though. The fact they have species and genus names implies Hybrids or like tweaks to the strain concept.

(Think how the Indominus rex is called that instead of something else)

peak siren Apr 13, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Yeah makes sense

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I mean magna raptor has heat sensing pits in its snout that doesn’t sound like a mutation to me

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Some things are just not really viable to mutate. How the hell do you mutate an organism into having what is essentially thermal vision? But then again, the Neuros are supposed to basically be Houdini and shit, so maybe I'm wrong and anything is possible.

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 2:44 AM

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.....a heat pit is just a specilized version of your sense of feeling heat. @placid harness

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That's all a snakes heat pit is. Same as a Fishes lateral line.
Making basic good senses into a very specialized organ

main prairie Apr 13, 2018, 2:53 AM

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its almost like there are more ways to sense the world than humans have access to

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and properly displaying such things visually is technically impossible so we have to compromise

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thonking3

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 3:12 AM

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It's pretty unlikely they actually SEE anything with it.

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The heat just shows a outline of something. So snakes strike that.

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If it's moving heat without smell they normally react defensively.

Moving heat with smell of food they react with Predation response.

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(When they are blind)

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 4:55 AM

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God damn. Forgot that there are 12 Reaper specimens active.

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I wonder if that means if Reaper becomes playable if only those 12 can be used for the playablea or if you have to place a Tissoplactics tissue inside of you.

That also gives the idea maybe you have to heavily damage a Tissoplastic, let it heal, then kill it and use the regenerative tissues to move forward.

hearty mulch Apr 13, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Vampire bats also use good ol infrared sensing heat pits to detect where blood flows closest to the skin

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 4:59 AM

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That also implies Tisso have enhanced healing capabilities doesn't it?

hearty mulch Apr 13, 2018, 5:00 AM

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it would be funny if reapers were like the ultra elite guards of a dangerously influential character

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 5:00 AM

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#ReaperPool

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I'm more so wondering if that's part of how you get strains. Because it implies you need the tissues from them.

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So it implies if a Hyper starves it's tissues can be eaten and maybe eventually it will allow you to become one? Unless it needs blood contact instead of stomach

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@sinful sable Dondi did say it would have infrared vision when asked (while this may not be literal infrared vision he still said it would be an ability to do so and see heat). Further onto my point, how the hell do you "mutate" a specialized organ in an organism? Probably not mutation at all, it could be that Magnas, especially the Magnaraptor, are just hybrids.

shy basin Apr 13, 2018, 9:30 AM

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"How the hell do you mutate a specialized organ in an organism"
Probably the same way brains first developed, evolution which is just a series of 'good' mutations, or yaknow someone made the magna raptor like that

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Which would also be mutation, just directed and guided by human hand

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Any change in your dna code is a mutation

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 10:18 AM

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The first brains were developed through god knows how many years of evolution, natural selection, and yes, mutation. It is implied that you are supposed to eventually transition into the strains and Magnas, but I doubt they are going to make the player experience millions of years of evolution.
There is a way around that, though. The strains might just be that, simulating millions of years of evolution in an extremely rapid amount of time.

shy basin Apr 13, 2018, 10:22 AM

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i was answering your question, considering magnatyrannus is manmade magna raptor will probably also be man made which entirely throws the question of how you get said organs out of the window as the creators of our dear dinosuars obviously have vast genetic manipulation abilities, considering we have, yknow, dinosaurs walking around in modern times

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furthermore you can in theory mutate any organ immediatly in one generation

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the probablity is just much much closer to 0% than to 1%

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 10:27 AM

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I think it would be cool if they pulled a Captain America though and strapped a T-rex into a chamber, pressed some buttons, flashed some lights, and out came a Magnatyrannus.

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 12:05 PM

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It's weird you're acting like it's crazy a basic thermal sensor organ is unlikely.

When you have a Utahraptor covered in bony body armor with pronation in its wrists two sets of teeth in the upper jaw
A spinosaurus with a hammerhead and no skin on the sails and the consistency of Jello and a Giga with a mouth that spreads out with like 8 rows of teeth

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 12:47 PM

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I guess it's futile to try and explain any of this with so little base info.

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Weren't Neuros at one point supposed to have like telekinesis or something?

icy onyx Apr 13, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Maybe.

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Yeah. It was an idea.

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That they would be able to pick up like boxes and small creatures with their mind or what ever.

regal locust Apr 13, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Not sure if I should ask here, but could someone pass me the console interview file? I’m not sure how to word it properly.

sinful sable Apr 13, 2018, 1:57 PM

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The entire Stream?

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Or what. Since the text is in the Pinned message

regal locust Apr 13, 2018, 2:06 PM

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The file that was posted in the old discord that had the information on afew of the assets ‘n whatnot. Basically where...

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📎 image.png

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This came from. ‘Scuse the shitty black bars. I’m on my phone at the moment.

grizzled dune Apr 13, 2018, 6:37 PM

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@regal locust Open pinned messages -> Open link -> Codes and Transmission -> use the drop-down menu -> Archive -> Console Transcription link -> Open it.
You will get a 6 pages long document, and it's basically what we got on the Console Transcription stream.
Keep in mind that some words are incorrect.
Example:
"Project All-Father: Apollo Engineering’s ﬁrst attempt at creating the perfect organism.
Free of Project Tampering
Project Status: Failed "
"Free of Project tampering"
when in reality what was said was:
"Free of Genetic tampering"

Console Transcription stream was recorded and compiled in one file.
You can find said file by following the same path as before but downloading the following archive:
"AE-Transmitter Archives [First Console AI Talk]"
There you won't find any mistakes.

regal locust Apr 13, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Got it, thank you! @grizzled dune

grizzled dune Apr 13, 2018, 6:38 PM

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👍

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Hey guys

📎 unknown.png

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The blur after "type-h" has twelve letters

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Tyrannosaurus is thirteen

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What name has twelve letters?

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:11 PM

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utahraptor is 10

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Carnotaurus is 11

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Ceratosaurus

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Ceratosaurus has twelve

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Any others?

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:12 PM

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quetzalcoatl

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Tapwing did produce hypo quetz art

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Type H is hyperendocrine, yes?

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:13 PM

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yis

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Dondi so far has been pretty good on tapwing's art

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Even used the neuro rex pic in a red loading screen

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:14 PM

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austroraptor is 12

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:14 PM

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But it would seem that there was an incident with a type-h quetzalcoatl (?) that raised the clearance to level three.

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But we don't have anything on type-h austros do we?

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There's art for a hyper raptor but I think it's a utah

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Maybe it is an austro though

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Man. There's a lot to work with here.

pulsar knot Apr 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Doubt it

placid harness Apr 13, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Hades makes me think of Tartarus.

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Yes. And there are things in tartarus right now

pulsar knot Apr 13, 2018, 7:16 PM

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we've never gotten anything about a hypo austro, but there were models for a hypo utah

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:18 PM

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There is art for a hypo quetz though, and quetz is twelve letters where utah is not

grizzled dune Apr 13, 2018, 7:36 PM

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There's no official representation of Type-H Quetzal.Only fan-art
And yes,it does fit the description nicely.
According to the loading screens,Type-H Quetzal broke free and since then,Type-H Q. bio-studies were halted.

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For context:
AE-BLS-005
Quetzalcoatlus
All quetzalcloatus biological assets have been deemed (blank space) by (blank space) since type-halfie (blank-space) atrium breach.All studies are to be concluded and assets neutralized until a later date.Atrium C to be repurposed for terrestrial Type-H specimens only.Do not replicate.
AE-AES -004
Type-H Speciemens
Type-H asset study has been moved from (blank space) to Atrium C.All assets show increased bone density and tissue growth.Due to the volatile effects since (blank space).Studies have been secluded to Tyrannosaurus,Giganotosaurus,Spinosaurus and utahraptor specimens.Quetzalcloatus study has been neutralized since (blank space).Code Alfie-(blank space) is still M.I.A.
Atrium C
All type-H biological asset study is to be moved to atrium C.Clearence level has summaricy elevated to level 4 since the incident involving (blank space).Director (blank space) has halted all development of any and all Type-H pterosauria studies since the loss of (blank space) personel.Atrium housing is currently being adjusted.

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Neuro rex is in the intro static

📎 unknown.png

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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isn't that tisso?

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Look to the left of it

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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looks like it has quills

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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You see the second one?

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:49 PM

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oh yea

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lol confirmed

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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There's also a picture of the inside of a rex's mouth

📎 unknown.png

muted steppe Apr 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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That's one of Tapwing's older art pieces for H-T.rex.

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I think Tapwing knows things.

muted steppe Apr 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Nah. Just her art is in.
https://orig00.deviantart.net/f7e1/f/2016/316/c/0/untitled_by_tapwing-dao5stp.jpg

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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or is having an afair with a dev

wary eagle Apr 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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But guys, you know how in the loading screens, the site name has four blank spaces?

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📎 unknown.png

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We might be able to fill those in

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The text might be removed, but we can still count the spaces and try to fill in the blanks

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Like playing hangman

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Let's see if we can do this.

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480573471948821/434430170326106135/unknown.png

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Replace site ____ with site-I-04

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Type H Quetzalcoatl

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____ has noted

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there are six spaces there

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Who do we have named that has six letters in their name?

grizzled dune Apr 13, 2018, 7:57 PM

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Both Whyse and Carter.

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Though i believe Dr.Whyse works on Type-N Bio-Studies

scenic scarab Apr 13, 2018, 7:58 PM

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whyse is the neuro guy

grizzled dune Apr 13, 2018, 7:58 PM

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And Carter Helped AE accquiere Phoenix's assets during Op. Inferno
"Apollo Engineering acquired Phoenix Corporation assets in Operation Inferno in
collusion with Lawrence Carter."

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Dr. Chance also fits it.

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Chance seems to be related with Quetzalcoatlus studies.

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Along with someone named "Drive"

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"Project Alphonse: The creation of the first Quetzalcoatlus.
Created by Drive, Chance."

peak siren Apr 13, 2018, 10:07 PM

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honestly this is so hard to keep track of

placid harness Apr 14, 2018, 1:21 AM

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If you read the website in pinned its not too hard to remember.

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I just have trouble with the names of projects.

dense nebula Apr 14, 2018, 7:04 AM

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The sound of the keyboard plays only when you press the settings button in the main menu, I'm wondering if its on purpose

high heath Apr 14, 2018, 3:18 PM

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One thing I have noticed is that the Mercs of AE have gas masks on. Tribals have no problems breathing in this atmosphere, so...does that mean the AE Mercs are going somewhere toxic? Or...is whatever causing the strains airborne?

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Whatever the case is, I am sure that the Mercs are going into territory that even the most dangerous Dinosaurs will want to steer clear of.

placid harness Apr 14, 2018, 3:28 PM

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The atmosphere idea is pretty eerie. If your gas mask gets knocked off, you might be start growing a third eye or something.
Or maybe they are after something that has capabilities to impair your breathing.

edgy grotto Apr 14, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Could be like the tv series The 100 where the grounders have adapted to the air toxicity and the sky crew have to wear gas masks after spending 100 years in space

crimson veldt Apr 14, 2018, 4:04 PM

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oh yeah, loved that show, so basically radiation ?

sweet oriole Apr 14, 2018, 4:09 PM

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makes sense since tribals eventually become cannibals right?

high heath Apr 14, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Uhm...no.

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Tribals become Cannibals after eating Human flesh.

nimble cape Apr 14, 2018, 5:06 PM

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I don't think that just eating your own kind would change you into something like that

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If I eat other people im not going to become 3 feet taller with no eyes and changed bones

high heath Apr 14, 2018, 5:06 PM

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I think the AE Mercs might retrieve things in highly volatile zones.

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No. You'll just get a virus from eating brains and junk.

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Besides, the Strains aren't natural. Cannibals eat Human flesh, likely have remnants of whatever causes the strains for them.

nimble cape Apr 14, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Well if other tribals have something inside of them that causes the strain then that would be possible

river marsh Apr 14, 2018, 5:22 PM

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cough mother of cannibals. Neuro strain

high heath Apr 14, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Well, Humans do have radiation in them, as do all living beings. Maybe the animals have trace amounts of the Strains in them?

fossil lily Apr 14, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Only if we could have one of those interactive console streams again for more lore

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Cause im guessing there could be new stuff added, and stuff we don't know yet

amber fox Apr 14, 2018, 11:30 PM

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anyone wanna mention how the merc atm looks like hes mutating?

sharp frigate Apr 14, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Hm?

amber fox Apr 14, 2018, 11:36 PM

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let me get a screen shot of his face

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📎 20180415002907_1.jpg

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look

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or it may bve just a bad model

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like

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the neck is fine

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its the face thats red with some bubonic plague spots

sharp frigate Apr 14, 2018, 11:40 PM

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probably just a texture glitch. otherwise doesn't belong in #isle-lore-theories

amber fox Apr 14, 2018, 11:40 PM

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fair enough

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 12:42 AM

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SO
what do we know about the neuro spino

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Im pretty sure those were the teased sounds that dondi said was coming in the next patch

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Neruo is in the Game atm, Devs can play as it. That I can promise saw it on Dondi's Stream.

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 1:13 AM

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Is it me

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or the merc model's face

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resembles dondi

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a bit

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 1:40 AM

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nice mem sprinkles

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I'm not lying I have a screenshot.

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Based on sprinkles screenshot are we calling hypos Type-H now?

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and the other ones the other types etc etc

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I mean The Loading SCreens call them Type H So why not?

nimble flare Apr 15, 2018, 2:26 AM

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@icy onyx you have a screenshot of the neuro?

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 2:50 AM

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No. Its playable for Devs in Dev Branch for sure.

nimble flare Apr 15, 2018, 11:59 AM

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can confirm

plain gale Apr 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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still don't get how ppl think edge-thomnia-rex is cannon to the Isle's lore.

shy basin Apr 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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if anth is your only source of information

lone peak Apr 15, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Hasn't he stated multiple times that its a mod? Mods aren't supposed to be canon.

plain gale Apr 15, 2018, 2:21 PM

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some people are "special"
¯_(ツ)_/¯

icy onyx Apr 15, 2018, 2:57 PM

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it's natural selection

sturdy geyser Apr 15, 2018, 8:59 PM

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patience, all mistakes will disappear with time

modest flint Apr 15, 2018, 11:47 PM

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people only want to believe what they want it seems.

orchid nimbus Apr 16, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Well that Type-N stream isn't omnious at all

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Morse code

narrow valve Apr 16, 2018, 11:10 PM

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anyone translating?

sharp frigate Apr 16, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Yes.

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Khorne is.

narrow valve Apr 16, 2018, 11:11 PM

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sweet

fringe rune Apr 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Ooo

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:18 PM

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@sharp frigate could we post some of the stream content in here instead? (Such as the clips?) For a little bit?

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Since it's theory central basically.

narrow valve Apr 16, 2018, 11:19 PM

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clips are disabled

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on the stream atm

sharp frigate Apr 16, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Yeah that'd work

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Being two are in Stream Discussion I say that's a no

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@narrow valve

narrow valve Apr 16, 2018, 11:19 PM

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oohhh

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:20 PM

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But the fact that a Acro was basically eating the camera makes me wonder if some of the stuff us like Robo-Croc (little camera eggs)

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Or in this case big camera dinos

orchid nimbus Apr 16, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Twitch is dying on me

sturdy geyser Apr 16, 2018, 11:21 PM

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it died on all of us

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Oooo. Gurgles.

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Totally not terrifying.....nooo

hearty mulch Apr 16, 2018, 11:21 PM

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It's been awhile

placid harness Apr 16, 2018, 11:22 PM

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I'd like to say the Neuro killed the connection to the feed but that might be a bit farfetched.

sturdy geyser Apr 16, 2018, 11:22 PM

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might have been intentional

orchid nimbus Apr 16, 2018, 11:22 PM

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There were peeps talking as well

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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The Neuro Spino (through Tapwings art) is shown to fuck up tech connections @placid harness

hearty mulch Apr 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Everyone thinking that it was a type N that fucked up the stream when it was actually a Type T.

placid harness Apr 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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So the EMP blast is still a thing? Nice.

hearty mulch Apr 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Twitch

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

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I'm saying through taps content that's what it does.

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If that's official or not I don't know

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But punch confirmed it's a twitch problem it seems

icy onyx Apr 16, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Oh

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:24 PM

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So dead theories are dead

hearty mulch Apr 16, 2018, 11:24 PM

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My theory best theory

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:49 PM

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So for Neuro they may be prone to drinking an animals insides. If this is just a Spino thing or not we don't know yet.

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And Type-N seems like it will have am average size of like 50% bigger I would say? Around there.

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Type-H is around 100-150% bigger I would say on average

placid harness Apr 16, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Maybe that tongue is for slurping up the insides.

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Or for cracking skulls like a Xeno.

sinful sable Apr 16, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Or. It's like how Tapwing made it. And it's used to fish/spear small animals to confirm a grip on them

main pike Apr 17, 2018, 12:04 AM

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wouldn't it be cool, instead of seeing how we do in the isle, Type N, or only the N-spino, sends pulses out, like in subnautica, to 'see', being blinded until it sends another pulse, and the pulses can be however long. it would be really op because it would almost negate foliage, you cant hide in bushes, because it'll see your outline, you could hear it coming, but not from where, it would really be good at scaring players

orchid nimbus Apr 17, 2018, 12:06 AM

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It could be like in the game Perception

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Also, I suppose tht Mr croc-face is the Colossus

hearty mulch Apr 17, 2018, 12:11 AM

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All playable neuros are blended refractions of the echidna bam

sacred inlet Apr 17, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Dondi said the neuro spino can control weather and someone in stream mentioned that the isle could be artificial and thats how neuro spino controls the weather 🤔

warped coral Apr 17, 2018, 12:39 AM

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aliens is a smarty boi

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and don has said before during his ark stream that the idea of a "contained ecosystem (in reference to the Ark and their story elements)" was very similiar to what the isle original was going to be story wise.

sacred inlet Apr 17, 2018, 12:41 AM

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ooo

warped coral Apr 17, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Some elements/ aspects may still hold true / bled over

sacred inlet Apr 17, 2018, 12:41 AM

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i really like this theory

warped coral Apr 17, 2018, 12:41 AM

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or maybe he can just make it rain and shit because hes bery bad evil dino man

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who knows

sacred inlet Apr 17, 2018, 12:41 AM

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tru tru..

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im really hoping its not that tho

warped coral Apr 17, 2018, 12:42 AM

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nah that sounds real dumb tbh lol

flint venture Apr 17, 2018, 1:41 AM

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I had a clip I made of the Morse Code in Stream Discussions

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Want me to link here?

sturdy geyser Apr 17, 2018, 1:42 AM

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i remember khorne giving his translation in stream

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"it has been a while" or something like that

flint venture Apr 17, 2018, 1:43 AM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/EnticingDifferentKittenDatBoi

Twitch

TheDondi Playing The Isle - Twitch Clips

Boops :O - Clipped by melmelMeliora

▶ Play video

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Oh really?

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That's what it says?

sturdy geyser Apr 17, 2018, 1:44 AM

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thats what i remember khorne saying that it translated to

icy onyx Apr 17, 2018, 1:44 AM

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"Boops :O" adorable lol

flint venture Apr 17, 2018, 1:45 AM

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😂 👌🏼

sturdy geyser Apr 17, 2018, 1:56 AM

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im really bad at this im leaving it to khorne

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XD

glacial moth Apr 17, 2018, 2:08 AM

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hey guys

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have any of you seen the the news tab in the isle main menu

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there is some text on the top left corner

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can some one zoom in on it please

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thank you

cosmic basin Apr 17, 2018, 3:37 AM

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I think Thenyaw island translated, would be called Tribal island. My reason for this theory is because when you separate Thenyaw into 2 words, it becomes: The Nyaw, as in The Nyaw people. They are an ethnic group of Thailand, Cambodia and Laos. They are believed to be Nyaw indigenous headhunters who sought other tribes for bounty and sport, and it was an honor to retrieve the heads of rival tribes as a trophy.
Kinda makes sense as Dondi is still working on getting the official tribals in game, so this could possibly be a hint to they're near release? Who knows, but I found this pretty cool and thought I'd share. 😉

cinder atlas Apr 17, 2018, 3:42 AM

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It's literally a meme because it's Wayneth spelled backwards.

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Jiggy named it that to be cheeky.

nimble flare Apr 17, 2018, 3:45 AM

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RIP theory

sacred inlet Apr 17, 2018, 3:51 AM

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when u put too much thought into something

tidal sonnet Apr 17, 2018, 4:09 AM

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What is the general theory of the isle

icy onyx Apr 17, 2018, 5:11 AM

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General?

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there are many but the one i’ve seen most is the isle was made as a project to test experiments on

hearty mulch Apr 17, 2018, 5:32 AM

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General dino theory: Bunch of vaguely biomechanical synthetically made organisms that are part of a system that connects their minds (profiles) into a cycle of death, birth, and rebirth.

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That and there are at least two generations of dinosaurs. I think there is a third, but I haven't heard anything about that from anyone in a long while. We are gen 2 dinosaurs, to my knowledge.

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Also the island is stocked

lapis hazel Apr 17, 2018, 9:43 AM

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do you guys think quetzalcoatlus will ever be in the game ?

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they're the most fascinating dinos imo

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can hardly believe they actually existed

nimble flare Apr 17, 2018, 9:46 AM

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uhhh

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devs can play as the quetz right now, but it has issues so it isnt public yet

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and this isnt a theory, so this conversation doesnt belong in this channel

lapis hazel Apr 17, 2018, 9:47 AM

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oh ? that's actually cool xD

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oh lol ok

scenic scarab Apr 17, 2018, 9:48 AM

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Also the model and everything exists but they need to work on the lifecycle and flying

proven fog Apr 17, 2018, 10:28 AM

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the adult quetz needs a remodel tbh

harsh marsh Apr 17, 2018, 11:20 AM

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the morse code sais "it has been a while"

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just checked it now

restive ledge Apr 17, 2018, 12:53 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20180416-193312.png

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Is that right?

orchid nimbus Apr 17, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Also saw that somewhere
Either it's a character's name or trolling

river marsh Apr 17, 2018, 12:57 PM

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Could be a code name? As odd as that is

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The brackets make me wonder if AR is the bit to keep an eye on. Maybe there will be more letters like that

nimble flare Apr 17, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Maybe its a codename for a creature that likes lasagna

harsh marsh Apr 17, 2018, 1:04 PM

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or it sais 'it has been a while'

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i checked it

amber fox Apr 17, 2018, 1:04 PM

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or one that hates mondays

orchid nimbus Apr 17, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Seriously wondering if there were two transmisions

harsh marsh Apr 17, 2018, 1:08 PM

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📎 20180417_140750.jpg

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There u go

misty zealot Apr 17, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Can't see at all, reccommending screencap'

last nebula Apr 17, 2018, 2:48 PM

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you see that cool thing that says "search" down there pal

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type in "snipping tool"

misty zealot Apr 17, 2018, 3:04 PM

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^

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Really handy

icy onyx Apr 17, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I love the snipping tool.

placid harness Apr 17, 2018, 7:23 PM

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"It has been a while"

glacial moth Apr 17, 2018, 10:35 PM

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are you sure

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?

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can some one tell me how they did it

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cuz i am getting weird messages

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it does say it's been a while

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but here is what i got

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S#SBEENAWHILE#

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why tho?

wary eagle Apr 17, 2018, 10:39 PM

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is there a clip of the transmission?

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Someone must have gotten that

glacial moth Apr 17, 2018, 10:39 PM

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yeah scroll up

wary eagle Apr 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Oh okay, thanks

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Cannibals are supposed to be something around the size of a carno, but they are definitely of human nature. @mellow ember

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Yeah but tribals themselves are supposed to be a different species then mercs technically right? I mean I know what the model looks like now but I had heard tribals wouldn't look fully human

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:41 PM

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We also don't know the size of echidna or reaper, but echidna's supposedly the mother of cannibals.

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:42 PM

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I'm just saying with the sizing scale they're doing on the H strains, and the comparison of size from H to their original variation. Humans doesn't come off as becoming larger then say H rex if you go with the same sizing scale.

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Why does the scale have to be consistent with humans?

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:43 PM

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One would think it would be consistant on a biological side of things if they're doing similiar scale cross species with the dinos.

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:44 PM

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We aren't sure it's similar scale though

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:46 PM

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I mean if the process is done differently from how they did the dinos for the H strain then it could make sense. but if lore wise, they use the exact same formula as they did with the dinos it doesn't stand to reason that humans would be so massive by comparison. One would also think that the dinos were being used as test subjects first and foremost to test these strains before applying them to the human so one would then have to think they'd use the same formulas.

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Unless I guess they took what they did to create the H strains with the dinos, took actual DNA references from the H strains themselves and then concocted a formula for the human form to achieve what they did.

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Look, we know that it's hyperendecrine because of the name. We know that echidna and reaper are human versions of their respective strains. It comes to reason that Colossus is a hyperendecrine human

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Just saying that if Formula A is what they gave Rex, and Rex became H-Rex. Then took Formula A and gave it to the human, I don't see the human out massing H-Rex. But if they were to say create Formula B from H Rex and gave that to Human that would make more sense.

cinder hound Apr 17, 2018, 10:49 PM

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I have to wonder if the Collossus has any other genetic fuckery going on or if the H-strain just turns everything in a reptillian of some sort?

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Are we sure the thing in announcements is even colossus?

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Yeah he did it during stream.

cinder atlas Apr 17, 2018, 10:51 PM

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^

mellow ember Apr 17, 2018, 10:51 PM

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And if we go off of what I just said, and the strains were first created in dinos then those dinos used to create a new formula to put into humans it would stand to reason why there would be reptillian mutation mixed in there for it.

proper steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Was just wondering since it's face changed when it moved from concept art to model.

muted steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Things tend to change a bit from their concept versions.

cinder hound Apr 17, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Honestly I'm starting to think it might not have even changed that much

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The more I look at the concept atleast.

muted steppe Apr 17, 2018, 10:59 PM

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The tusks are new, at least. I don't really expect the rest of the design to be too different from the concept, 'cept maybe some belly armor.

cinder atlas Apr 17, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Reminder that this is still #isle-lore-theories

muted steppe Apr 17, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Oop, sorry.

placid harness Apr 17, 2018, 11:16 PM

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The Colossus definitely doesn't seem like its a genetic accident. It looks way too perfected.

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In comparison to Echidna it definitely looks like the design is more symmetrical and less chaotic.

peak glade Apr 17, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Someone captured people and turned them into these things

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Guarantee you

hearty mulch Apr 18, 2018, 1:27 AM

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it would be funny if the old 'HUNGRY...' transmission was from an important figure turning into a hyper godbeast in the face of a dire situation as he deleted his own files.

sinful sable Apr 18, 2018, 4:00 AM

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@supple dome the code seems to be "It's been a while"

supple dome Apr 18, 2018, 4:12 AM

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ah

sleek silo Apr 18, 2018, 6:28 AM

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guys

ancient spindle Apr 18, 2018, 6:30 AM

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Gals

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 11:01 AM

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Is the neuro spino emp going to affect living beings in some way too or just tech

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Emf waves do cause people and animals some hellish psychological effects if too exposed to it

amber fox Apr 18, 2018, 11:08 AM

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but thats an electro-magnetic field. not a pulse

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of course in an EMF its gonna do damage because youre exposed to it longer

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whereas a pulse is pretty much an instant thing.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Tru

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Just kinda

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Want the neuro spino to be scary to things other than humans too

amber fox Apr 18, 2018, 11:12 AM

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it will be

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Fingers crossed

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I mean, in terms of instinctual fear response the team fuckin nailed it

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So thats all good

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But neuros are supposed to be squishy and i dont want the game to release with the neuro spino being bullied by carnos

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Lol

last nebula Apr 18, 2018, 11:53 AM

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A carno bullying a neuro spino would be fairly concerning, seeing as a neuro spino is like twice the size of a regular spino

nimble flare Apr 18, 2018, 1:03 PM

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I'd imagine the EMP would do something to players, rather than just tech. Otherwise it'd be super situational

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and pretty useless for such a cool ability

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Thats what im sayin

scenic scarab Apr 18, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I think it'd disorient a bit or relinquish player control for random spazing for a second, since electric discharges affect the brain

sinful sable Apr 18, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I mean. In the end playability wise Strains are literally just big "fuck up humans" creatures.

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With the extention of Hyper being "Fuck up the ecosystem while you're at it"

pale frigate Apr 18, 2018, 3:06 PM

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i mean sure a carno could go up to neuro spino but they would be risking their insides being sucked out of them

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Thats an afyer death thing

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The point was to make them eat weird to make them feel more unique

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Its not a combat mechanic i dont think

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if that's something that can affect electric potential used by the nervous system to transfer information, it could have impacts on perceptions and stuff

pale frigate Apr 18, 2018, 3:26 PM

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you know, when dondi said weather manipulation people went "it gonna make it rain!", but if its just manipulation that means it could take the rain away and possibly make droughts, which could be its own way of unbalancing the ecosystem. just like how a type-H would just eat things to unbalance it

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Oh shit

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Making the water disappear sounds dangerous as fuck

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I live in michigan so i have zero experience of drought personally, but i know californians

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Droughts be deadly af

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Considering how it's designed maybe it could also manipulate lightning. It could use it to legitimately strike things, of course the electricity itself would have have to look different so it doesn't create confusion, or maybe it could absord lightning strikes into itself to use as a means of defense/offense.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Like absorbing the energy more or less?

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Basically, yeah.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Manipulate lightning?

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So what you are saying is that N-Type Spino could possibly charge itself before an EMP with its summoned lightning?

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Guys, he could use his muscles for that

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:25 PM

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That or maybe disperse the electricity in a different way.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:25 PM

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believe it or not, muscles produce a good amount of electricity

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:26 PM

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I think the emp is something it could produce with out excess energy.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:26 PM

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the problem is "how do we get the electricity to go from point A to point B?"
when you have water (see Eels) it's a good conductor
air is crap at it

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I wonder if some type N is gonna have some infrasound stuff

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:27 PM

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emp is a pulse, so it just radiates out. I could see it reversing your controls for a short time. lol that'd mess people up

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:27 PM

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It needs to do something like that.

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Like someone said before the emp would be obnoxiously situational if it just fucks with electronics.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Some vision jamming? you wouldn't believe what changes in your body can mess with your eyeballs

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Inverse controls, muffled audio, and possibly de-saturating the screen?

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since an eye is full of liquids 😉

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I'd say making control less responsive would work better than inverse controls

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:29 PM

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well the brain is basically electric synapses and in dull brains, it wouldn't be "out there" to mess with your internal navigation.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:29 PM

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if you know how the Nspino does his EMP, you can cancel out his attack by just using the opposite controls

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it's too "easy" to counter tbh

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:30 PM

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it'd be one effect. if you're fleeing, it'd mess most up enough to cause havoc

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:30 PM

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affecting sight, hearing and stuff would work better

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:31 PM

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turn down game sounds and only play in vc would counter that too.

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sight effects are tricky because you can't do anything that would possibly cause seizures. so nothing would be too limiting

tacit plank Apr 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I'd make it either paralyze or blind you whilst messing with your controls.

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Well not the lame lowering of the volume...

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more of a distortions

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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think of it like a fear or snare in other games. sure it's easy to adapt if you know its coming, its just part of the package of abilities. that one second you turn the wrong way is no different than a one second stun

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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or lowering and rising the volume randomly

cinder atlas Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Reminder this is #isle-lore-theories not "How to counter a Neuro EMP" or "What I would do"

sweet oriole Apr 18, 2018, 5:34 PM

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wouldn't what I do be theory since it's not actually in yet? but agree in general, was just curious

high heath Apr 18, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Well, I have noticed that AE uses Mercenaries instead of military. So...they are giving people top dollar to bring something back.

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Or...destroy stuff.

sharp frigate Apr 18, 2018, 5:55 PM

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What they’re doing prob isn’t sanctioned by the military

shy basin Apr 18, 2018, 5:59 PM

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It says US military on the old box assets, but they are marketplace so that means nothing

icy onyx Apr 18, 2018, 6:25 PM

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the US tends to sell it's stocks rather than take them back home because it cost hella money IIRC

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so they could have bought them from the US military that way

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or had a contract with them

high heath Apr 19, 2018, 12:58 AM

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So, like Weyland Yutani? Basically the deepest pocket controls the military...or military assets.

wraith coral Apr 19, 2018, 1:22 AM

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What if the isle was a battle royal game?

icy onyx Apr 19, 2018, 1:45 AM

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No.

cinder atlas Apr 19, 2018, 1:47 AM

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That's not a theory.

static dock Apr 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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DELET

icy onyx Apr 19, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Neuro being somewhat similar to the kraken in evolve?

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Ability-wise

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a lil

dusty nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Who wants to theorize on the way the combat overhaul will work? I see It being mentioned with such certainty but I've never heard what will actually be in it

ancient spindle Apr 19, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Hmmm, I wonder if locational damage will be coming in with it

dusty nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Means movement and hit boxes will have to be on point

sinful sable Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 AM

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I think theories is for Lore.

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Not mechanics

dusty nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Would like the ability to lunge and stagger an opponent

gilded haven Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 AM

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📎 9d4d85a0947fec38b8dca53c72713627.png

dusty nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 AM

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I see

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Ok sorry

gilded haven Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 AM

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This isnt lore related.

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#401464048610312195

sinful sable Apr 19, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I can't see it on Mobile for some reason... @gilded haven hmm. Interesting..maybe it's the device -shrug-

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But yay! I remembered.

gilded haven Apr 19, 2018, 3:56 AM

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👍🏼

sinful sable Apr 19, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Kinda wondering how the whole "moving Conciousness" deal will work. If it's something to do with the area or if it's like Microchips or what and has some sort of AI (which would be us as players) for some of the animals.

coral bronze Apr 20, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Alright, I just came up with this theory on the spot so its not likely to be good: So, what I think is that the dinosaurs are essentially being used as military projects. They brought back dinosaurs (similar to JP) and they made a controlled ecosystem on multiple tropical islands. This would allow the people working on the project to select the most well-equipped dinosaurs and use them in combat. For example, say one particular line of Tyrannosaurs are doing particularly well on an island. Their DNA will be harvested, cloned, and used. As for the strains, they are a separate project that used the perfected dinosaur DNA from the islands and made them even better by giving them traits like armor, EMP, and other tools. The Matriarch was designed to be the most powerful and destructive weapon in their arsenal, constantly changing depending on what environment it was exposed to (source: https://tapwing.deviantart.com/art/Triatominae-matriarch-713194933 ). And I did get conformation from a developer that these dinosaurs are indeed genetically tempered, which both strengthens my theory and adds another possible layer: These dinosaurs had a little genetic nudge in the right direction by the scientists. Think about it: The Rex's old model was feathery and relatively lightweight. So, they made it bulky and heavy. This was too bulky, however, so it was slimmed down to the current model of today. Another example: the Giganotosaurus was slim, but now it's bulkier, faster and can break bone and do massive bleed. However, take this theory with a grain of salt. I'll work on the story of the game later.

sinful sable Apr 20, 2018, 3:00 AM

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@coral bronze the Matriarch is simply very adaptable. How so is unknown.

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But it's likely not changing it's entire body every 5 minutes

coral bronze Apr 20, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I meant more of releasing it into a battlefield, having it get used to the surrounding environment, and then it can be more efficient at killing

versed rain Apr 20, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Yea I mean if you think about it

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All the dinosaurs that are/may be getting strains are good at something to a huge extent

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Rex= destroy everything

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Spino= aquatic assault

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Giga= destroy boots on the ground

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Utah= hyper intelligence paired with deadly claws

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Carno= speed and a strong headbutt

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If Dilo and Quetz were to get strains (which i suspect they will) Dilo could track and kill targets and Quetz could take out enemy fighter jets

icy onyx Apr 20, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Fun fact: Quetz actually has a hypo strain, although the only downside is that is lost his ability to fly

blazing lotus Apr 20, 2018, 5:45 PM

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really? damn

icy onyx Apr 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Where'd you hear that?

cinder atlas Apr 20, 2018, 5:51 PM

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He didn't.

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Keep the theories free of misinformation and trolling, please.

icy onyx Apr 20, 2018, 5:52 PM

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Hence asking for a source

cinder atlas Apr 20, 2018, 5:52 PM

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You're just fine, Amara.

meager nacelle Apr 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Hyper intelligence isn't really something that can be displayed through the game for utah

outer hull Apr 20, 2018, 7:05 PM

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^

placid harness Apr 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Hyper intelligence wouldn't be something that would be limited to Utah. It's somewhat smart, yes, but the dinosaur is only as smart as the player controlling it (and trust me, there are some MASSIVE dumbasses that play this game, myself included).

Lore wise, if anything was to possess hyper intelligence, it would be the Neuro strains. There must be some serious brain power involved to control weather or (potentially) move objects with your mind.

sturdy geyser Apr 20, 2018, 8:47 PM

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and they dont have eyes, so instead of seeing their environment they know their environment

kindred stirrup Apr 20, 2018, 9:50 PM

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So is the magma strain it’s own thing or it just a tweaked hyper strain

placid harness Apr 20, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Not a strain.

kindred stirrup Apr 20, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Wat is it then

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Just a smol hypo ?

outer hull Apr 20, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Isnt magna just genetic perfection

smoky cosmos Apr 20, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Ton

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you Omega tonberry?

kindred stirrup Apr 20, 2018, 10:10 PM

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Yeh

smoky cosmos Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 PM

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yeah figured 😛

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yeah magna isnt a strain as far as I'm aware

kindred stirrup Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 PM

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How’d u knowwww

smoky cosmos Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 PM

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you commented on my video and names are similar

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😛

kindred stirrup Apr 20, 2018, 10:11 PM

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🐠

cinder atlas Apr 20, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Keep it to #isle-lore-theories fellas.

smoky cosmos Apr 20, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Gar it was about theories 😄

cinder atlas Apr 20, 2018, 10:19 PM

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Ye I know but I don't want people to spiral off into obscenity smug

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:13 AM

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The cannibals are supposed to be some kind of lab experiment gone wrong, i think. Basically, the scientists that worked on creating the hypos got exposed to the hypo dna stuff and morphed into half-dino half-person things

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At least thats what they seem to be. Where else would humanoid dinos come from other than mutated humans?

sinful sable Apr 21, 2018, 1:17 AM

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They aren't anything like dinos though?

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:19 AM

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Yea they are they have bird-like feet and long claws and eyes farther away from their nose

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And by bird-like i mean they have legs that bend like a bird not like a person

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:28 AM

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yeah cannibals defiantly are intertwined with strains somehow

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:29 AM

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Maybe theyre a hypo-human strain

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:29 AM

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like human experiments that went wrong in the lab

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:29 AM

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Experimentation on tribals

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Conducted by the scientists

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:30 AM

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personally i think three lead scientists went to work on the isle project ,, each specializing in there own experiments for the dinosaurs.

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these three strains ended up turning the three of them into the three we know now

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:31 AM

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So people turned into fully blown dinos?

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:31 AM

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no

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they turned into what they were experimenting with on the dinosaurs

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the strains

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Ohh i get you

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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yeah, the colossus , the reaper , and the mother of cannibals

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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I actually like the theory of experimentation being done on all the dinos that will be getting strains, THEN as a further experiment they tested on tribal people living on the islands

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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they were originally leading scientists

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i like that too

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:33 AM

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Which gave us the cannibals

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:33 AM

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and some of the straining went into the local population after they released the dinosaurs on the island

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which are cannibals yeah

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:35 AM

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One thing ive noticed is the three hypos we have now all have the same line of heavy back plates and the cannibal doesnt. I wonder why that would be the case, assuming the theory of them being some kind of hypo-human is true

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:35 AM

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i don’t think the cannibals have the hypo strain

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i don’t even think they have a specific strain

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more like just .... tested and gone wrong

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if you notice cannibals are very animalistic and predator like

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so maybe engineering humans to become natural predators able to compete against dinosaurs in the wild specifically ??

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:37 AM

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I initially thought the cannibals were scientists or normal people that just got exposed to the chemicals they used for genetic engineering to make strains. So it was kinda like a dino x-men mutagin that turned people into the cannibal creatures

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When i first saw cannibals

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:38 AM

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i can see that too

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so either cannibals were made on purpose or they were an accident

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i think making them on purpose is darker

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biologically engineering humans into super predators able to compete with dinosaurs ??

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like that’s pretty fucked and scary

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:41 AM

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Yea, and to make it even darker it would be cool if they did things like kidnap people for it or took advantage of the native people. Or even better, if the tribals had a ritual of sacrificing people to keep the cannibals away when the whole time, scientists are moving the sacrifices to labs to make more cannibals

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Out of the sacrifices

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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i really like that idea

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Ty

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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along the lines of what i was thinking

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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I cant wait to see what this game is gonna be like in a few years

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 1:43 AM

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same ,, really optimistic about the isle

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 1:44 AM

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I wonder if some type of single player campaign would ever be made or if the devs would just let the audience figure out the backstory based on clues from the map

sage steppe Apr 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Tru

peak siren Apr 21, 2018, 3:58 AM

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I was just thinking about how cool a single player story would be, I mean there is so much lore in this game i think that could really be something in the distant future

dusk axle Apr 21, 2018, 5:06 AM

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i would love to have single player, im way to of a loner to be always online

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Hell yeah that would be badass. When most people spot the game I don't think they realize how cool the lore is. (I know I didn't)

lone peak Apr 21, 2018, 4:42 PM

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A singleplayer mode could also help new people get used to the controls, map, and dinosaurs.

harsh marsh Apr 21, 2018, 4:49 PM

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it would be cool but i think thats very hard to do

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Eh, all the pieces are going to be there

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AI is probably one of the biggest obstacles to a worth while single player mode

viscid saddle Apr 21, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Gentle reminder that this channel is for lore theories in particular

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Sry lol

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Hey guys, remember on #announcements when dondi post a teaser for Neuro Spino that said: "Paging Dr Whyse"?

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Well, I have a theory about him, maybe Dr Whyse is the person in charge on the development of the Neuro strain, or even...on all of the strains

shy basin Apr 21, 2018, 6:23 PM

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great evidence there

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Yep

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 6:25 PM

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👌

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Is there anywhere to get more info on strains? Just dinos streams?

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Well, you can get an idea by looking at fanart like Tapwing's

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Or even, the loading screens

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Let me reiterate that tapwing is NOT part of the dev team.

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:28 PM

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I know

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:28 PM

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She only makes good fan art that the devs sometime will take influence from.

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:28 PM

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I said, it can give you an idea

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:29 PM

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It could or it couldn't.

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:29 PM

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NOT literally being it

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Or idk, just go to the isle wiki

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Even worse.

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Wiki is trash

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Streams. Just stick to streams and announcements.

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:30 PM

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^

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Yea that

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Streams, announcements, and loading screens

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Also TI's twitter

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 6:30 PM

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I don't wanna sub tho

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Lol

tacit plank Apr 21, 2018, 6:31 PM

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That's not stoping you from watching?

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:31 PM

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People clip the important parts

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Anyways my interest is mostly about strains for Utah's

icy onyx Apr 21, 2018, 6:31 PM

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From what I know I think is just magna and hypo

meager nacelle Apr 21, 2018, 6:32 PM

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👍

empty quest Apr 22, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Is magna even a strain? I've never once heard of it being a strain variant for the creatures in the game, just a genetic experiment that was being toyed with.

placid harness Apr 22, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Probably just a hybrid.

coarse sonnet Apr 22, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Seems right. Because we have magnaraptor not magna utah.

sinful sable Apr 22, 2018, 5:47 AM

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I personally consider it a "Strain" since the repeated term of Magna. But it's not seeming to be created in the same wags the Type-T N and H ones are

peak siren Apr 22, 2018, 5:49 AM

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magna means great, so maybe it just means an enhanced version of a type of animal. Think genetic modification, not necessarily a strain.

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Maybe they're all made in the same type of way, therefore they all fall under Type-M

sinful sable Apr 22, 2018, 5:55 AM

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I mean. So far they are showing basic strain cliches.

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Similar color pallet.
Similar additions(both feel far more crocodilian in appearence IIRC)
Similar size difference to their base "species"
There's some differences but all the other strains show differences so...

peak siren Apr 22, 2018, 6:14 AM

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well if you think about it they both have reptilian traits to them, magnaraptor has pit viper heat sensors on the snout and magnatyrannus has crocodilian osteoderms on its body so maybe thats the...strain? I don't know I think magna is a classification for a hybrid or such because neurotenic and hypoendocrine is a gene which amplifies certain things. Not sure if amplifying anything would make a tyrannosaur have osteoderms.

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They're similar to strains, but i feel as if they aren't fully "strains" more of their own thing

placid harness Apr 22, 2018, 6:32 AM

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They are referred to as "Type-M" in the loading screens, so... I don't know, maybe they are like strains, maybe not.

spice coyote Apr 22, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Magna's are same-species killers, no?

sinful sable Apr 22, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Why do you think that? @spice coyote

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Magnatyrannus killed a Type-H Rex

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Other then that nothing is known on their "habits"

hazy void Apr 22, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Random question, does anyone know how we got this image?

📎 Figure.png

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Was it spectrogram

shy basin Apr 22, 2018, 3:19 PM

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sstv file

plain gale Apr 22, 2018, 3:21 PM

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looks like something you'd find from the deep web

sharp frigate Apr 22, 2018, 3:21 PM

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yeah it was spectogram

abstract totem Apr 23, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Did you guys know that eventually the universe will run out of materials for building stars and the univurse will become a cold dark emty space...just joking stop crying,we like to have fun here or it's always a possibility that we make a huge bomb with a black hole but that process is so complicated that l don't have the finger mussels to write it down,have you ever wounded what happened before the big bang.....was it a big bomb...Hhhhhhmmmmm,planted by other civcivilizations hoping that thit project would restore life to the univurse by eventually destroying their selfs...this is not scientifically proven but just theory by me,hope that life will not stop living

icy onyx Apr 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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But hey is that a theory?

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No

sharp frigate Apr 23, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Kicked

kindred stirrup Apr 23, 2018, 11:38 PM

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Technically it’s a theory but not an isle theory

nimble flare Apr 23, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Its not even a theory its just someone who thinks they are smart rambling because they watched vsauce once.

cinder atlas Apr 23, 2018, 11:47 PM

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One would assume that, if the one who posted nonsense was kicked, it would be wise to not carry on that line of conversation.

sharp frigate Apr 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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The conversation about it is over, pls stop bringing it up

glacial moth Apr 24, 2018, 1:26 AM

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so anth brought something up it was the D-type

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any body has any info

grizzled dune Apr 24, 2018, 1:27 AM

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fan-art.

plain gale Apr 24, 2018, 1:28 AM

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anth

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oof

nimble flare Apr 24, 2018, 1:30 AM

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Someone please change the channel description to make sure people dont come here with info from Anth videos

plain gale Apr 24, 2018, 1:34 AM

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^ yes pls

glacial moth Apr 24, 2018, 2:00 AM

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okay

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well the more you know

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i apologize

kindred stirrup Apr 24, 2018, 4:52 AM

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I’ve got a theory, the scientist that let all the dinos out was anthonmia and that’s why we have the isle

pure gull Apr 24, 2018, 5:02 AM

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And the reason he let them out is so he could have content for his channel

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Absolutely flawless theory

carmine marsh Apr 24, 2018, 5:02 AM

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XD

main prairie Apr 24, 2018, 6:06 AM

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That monster!

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:16 AM

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So, guys, why do you think there's currently no confirmation for herbivore strains

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Because herbivores arent meant to be strains in game

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:18 AM

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But what about lore wise

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:20 AM

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There is confirmation on herb strains

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The confirmation is that there won't be any herbs strains

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:21 AM

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carnivores are easier to manipulate for violent combat situations i guess? unless the herbivore you select is already aggressive in temperment

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Like trike

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It could literally destroy bases probably

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By just charging at them

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:22 AM

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I imagine the scientists experimenting on the animals saw it preferable to test on theropods

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~~maybe carnivores were easier to get into a lab than the herbivores~~

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:23 AM

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There must have been some tests or some reason they just can't exist

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Like maybe they needed too much food

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:23 AM

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They have less work to do in the long run as far as temperament goes. At that point they are just working on making it even more deadly than what natural evolution would allow

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:23 AM

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Which would have ruined the ecosystem

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:24 AM

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not really logical to conclude since most hypo herbs would be smaller than a puerta

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:24 AM

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Like sure, hypo carnivores need food, but that food can run away

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:24 AM

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In the long run maintaining carnivore strains would be more costly

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:24 AM

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And if they don't catch any they die

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But plants don't run

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:24 AM

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assuming theyre going after super fast animals

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idk if youve looked but trikes arent good at outrunning hyper theropods

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they cann run but they wont get far and the mutants cover ground much quicker

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:25 AM

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I don't know for sure, but I think the strains were made by people with the intent of keeping those things for further use, but the strains got out into the island

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:25 AM

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Trikes are limited

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:26 AM

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everythings limited

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:26 AM

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Adult trikes are even rarer probably

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:26 AM

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?

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:26 AM

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They give more food

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:27 AM

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adult trikes arent rare , in game and probably wont really be ever when ai is re implemented. were also forgetting large sauropods which at least two hyper strains have been portrayed to feed upon

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:30 AM

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Anyway personally I think that hypo herbivores (or other strains) would need too much food

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:32 AM

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It would be easier to supply herbivore food than it would be to supply meat

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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But the plants would run out

shy basin Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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You would be constantly eating and doing nothing else

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Especially if you have the humans mixing in extra grains and the like to fortify natural supplies

shy basin Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Now thats fun and engaging gameplay

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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~~even though most of the hypo herbs would be smaller than sauropods on average which can manage to feed themselevs just fine~~ unless the hypo herbs have such a high metabolism that they cant go 40 minutes without eating theres not much to suggest theyd need too much food to viably survive. as for carnivores they do need a lot of food to sustain themsleves which is why they are often portrayed going after bigger animals that will provide more sustenance for longer

shy basin Apr 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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With carnivore strains you at least have the hunt inbetween

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Hypers have extremely high metabolisms

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As they are able to regenerate themselves quickly

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:34 AM

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dont really have much interest in hypo herbs , theyre fun concepts but "meh" in practice

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even hypo carnivores can be boring to some

shy basin Apr 24, 2018, 8:35 AM

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They get boring quickly

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Nothing challenges you except hunger and other hypers

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Which you dont see

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 8:37 AM

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its fun fighting hypos as a puerta, or better yet watching the two fight

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except that civil war thing in sandbox

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everybody had access to hypo on v3 and all across the map you see hordes of them attacking pues and bodies lagging the universe

serene wadi Apr 24, 2018, 8:38 AM

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That was unfun

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Does anybody know what this was about?

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https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/896430574897733632?s=20

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

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crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Eh?

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Those are three of the special herb attacks

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Gore is for trike, thagomizers are stego, and pachyrhino was intended to be the juggernaut

placid harness Apr 24, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Magna herbs.

jovial oar Apr 24, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Im gonna copy n paste what i said in the art topic, the responce to weaponized hypo herbs flight responce:
o.O Put a prion into the creatures brain and code the prion to modify the grey and white matter of the brain?
It would be easy.

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The behavour changes would be small, to massive.

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Don't prions normally shred the tissue of the brain.

Along with that a Animal who's aggressive because of a Need to feed is easier to care for then an animal who's aggressive if it sees anything living

jovial oar Apr 24, 2018, 1:00 PM

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.. True

dusk axle Apr 24, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I would say that herb strains could be intresting if you complete objectives, or as a counter, i think (not shure) that if only carnivores develop strains, people will be less likely to play hervivores, in carnivores you have the incentive that youll become in some way better, either bigger and stronger, or smarter or faster, while in hervivores it just becomes boring whatsoever, so if thats the case why not remove playable hervivores and make all hervivores only AI?

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Strains aren't something anyone is gonna be able to just walk up and grab (assumed at least(

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And only a few Carnis are getting them. As of now it's literally only Rex, Spino, Giga, Carno, and Utah.

river marsh Apr 24, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Herbivore players also don't sign up to be kamikazes as a general rule. It's a different playstyle than carnivores. Your more interested in defense than offense

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Also trike may get a strain. It was voted on eons ago about juggernaut and thronebreaker or something

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:18 PM

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So...I’m unfamiliar with the strain part of The Isle. Anyone willing to tell me about them? XD

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Basically there are four factions in the game: carnivore dinos, herbivore dinos, tribal humans, and mercenary humans. The mercenary humans developed strains.

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Otherwise known as mutant weaponized dinos

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Fancy

wary eagle Apr 24, 2018, 3:23 PM

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I can fill you in on the strains themselves to an extent, but the origins I think Moss has handled

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There are four Strains.

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Technically four, not sure if magna is the fourth or something else

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I'm just gonna let moss handle this

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:24 PM

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Okay lmao

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:25 PM

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Hyperendocrine strains known as h-type involve making the animal in question much larger, hit harder (or do more of what its specialty is like giga will do more bleed while rex can bite through hyper armor) and become heavily plated with natural boney armor

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You can see the models and animations of the h-type giga, rex, and spino on youtube quite easily

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N-type strains, or neuro strains, are the soft squishy strains that have a highly specialized way of living. As it stands now only the neuro spino is even remotely finished and thus far its special skill has been rumored to be an EMP blast

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You can probably ask someone in the stream chat for clips of it

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The T-strain is the Tisso strain. That hasn't been touched on as much, but so far the basic concept is turning the animal into a super hunter. Not as big and hulking and ravenous as the H-type strains and no where near as odd as the N-Type, but possibly far more dangerous than either as its last known possible skill was camouflaging I believe

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They were also rumored to be quite speedy in comparison to their base species

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The Magnarex is not exactly a strain as far as I know, but it has been labeled as "The Father" from why I hear, leading many to believe that the Magna was the first in testing and led to the development of all other strains

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Humans - the tribals at least or so I have been led to believe - will also have their own mutant paths. The most well known mutation is the Cannibal. Nasty nightmare fuel that will supposedly be able to climb trees and is quite large in comparison to a normal person

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The Colossus is also some form of mutant but I am unsure exactly where its origins rest. It looks incredibly crocodilian, so it could potentially be some sort of deino strain, but it is also fairly ape like, so it could be a human strain. Then again, the most recent teaser for it was the h-type strain of the colossus, so it plausible that it is a stand alone creature as it would be odd to have a strain morph into another strain

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There is not much known about the Matriarch either

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Long story short, strains are cool things that give you practically god tier powers in relation to the average player creature. They will be very, very hard to achieve.

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And as a final note, it has been stated several times unfortunately that herbivores won't be getting strains. However, the most recent twitter poll seems to have gotten people thinking that something like a magna version might be released for an herbivore

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Oh...Well, nice to know everything in the game can kill us easily... not surprising. I had a good backgrounds with hypos and neuros, but I had no idea about tissos. I knew some about the Colossus, based on the concept pictures and the models, but not much about its background. I haven’t heard of the Matriarch.
Herbs I think should get strains. Maybe not the smaller tiers, but definitely the apexy type herbs I.E, the shant and trike. I would like to see them not just the gentle, plant eating dinosaur, but also their “dark side” and what they can become.
Thanks for all the information. I honestly didn’t know the hypos and nueros were connected to the strains. But, now I know.
I’m pretty excited about the Cannible as well!

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Herbivores have had a very long and rough history so far. Initially they weren't even intended to be played. However, there is enough of a niche that herbivores are here to stay. Naturally when strains were first talked about, Dondi very clearly stated no herbivore strain ever would come to the Isle and seems to have stayed on that decision. Depending on who you ask, the reason behind why there aren't any strains vary from something that has to do with lore to basic game play issues such as the strain herbs will spend most of their time face first in a bush to combat the heightened hunger loss that comes with being a strain

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Others will say that it is just general bias against herbivores

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Haha, understandable. I mean, I don’t mind both ways, but I guess I am biased a little forwards a herb strain.
But your right, herbs wouldn’t be worried about killing anyone or terrorizing the whole server, but continuously looking for food

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I.E, bushes

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Or trees possibly

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Hyper strains usually end up roughly twice the size of their base species, so I'd imagine the hyper shant would need to eat trees

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Deforestation

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Personally, as an herbivore main, wouldn't necessarily want a strain per say so much as something entirely unique to herbivores that will give them a much needed leg up on the predators, but still supplement their intended gameplay, which is at the moment, defend or run.

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An Elder system has been rumored to be a possibility, but the primary flaw in that system is that not just the herbivores would become Elders and get that 10% stat boost. I also don't recall any of the devs actually talking about it and any Elder system thus far has just been in mods

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:53 PM

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You mean elder as in...well...old?

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Basically yes. A long lived creature that gets a 10% increase in most stats such as health and attack and a size uptick equivalent to .1

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Namely the idea is to reward people who actually try to survive for long periods of time on one dinosaur

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I think there is also a cosmetic change

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Permanent faded scars or a slightly different looking model. Something like that. All speculation of course

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Faded colors, perhaps?

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 3:57 PM

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Yes, if you poke around enough you will be able to find fan rendered art of an elder galli and an elder para

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Though I don't believe they dimmed the colors any

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Ah. You think the goal is to have baby, Juvy, sub, and adult of every dino?

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Potentially yes. But that depends entirely on the devs and how they wish to balance things out. Herbivores would generally benefit from a life style like galli and para as they only have to fight through two incredibly vulnerable stages from birth before they reach adult

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This in turn would presumably allow them to grow faster and take less time populating a herd - or they would if nesting timers weren't so horrible -

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However having a sturdier middle ground like trike might be more beneficial in the end

ebon heath Apr 24, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Haha. Nesting is nice, but he models for babies are just miniature adults. While it’s nice that you can nest, unique models for the babies would be a nice addition.

After the trike, it may be a while before another life cycle for a dino is developing. Especially all the things going on with dev branch, Utahs, Neuro Spino, and the dieno

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And Colossus on its way

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Cannibals as well

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Well, baby models are constantly in development xD

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So far we still have two missing herbivores

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And a handful of missing predators

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:06 PM

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@river marsh juggernaut was Pachyrhino

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Yes indeed it was

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:06 PM

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That's what the thing was all about. Thronebreaker I believe was...Magna?

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Or was that the still be named one

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Magna was known as The Father I thought?

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:07 PM

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There was a term for Stego, Pachyrhino, and Trike on the Twitter vote.

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Thagomizer

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:07 PM

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And yeah. Allfather. Thanks

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Thagomizer = stego
Gore = Trike
Juggernaut = Pachyrhino

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Those are the three "special" attack types for the main survival herbs

lone bronze Apr 24, 2018, 4:08 PM

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What was thronebreaker?

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:09 PM

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I dunno, first I have heard of a thronebreaker

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Thagomize and Gore are Stego and Trike

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Yep, and Juggernaut is pachyrhino

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:09 PM

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https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/896430574897733632?s=19

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

BEGIN REPLICATION SELECTION:

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Here's the tweet.

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And here's when the Magnatyrannus was unleashed
https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/890819723155226624?s=19

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

AT 11:03 PM, JULY 25TH, 2017, USER 76561198030161110 INITIATED ALLFATHER PROTOCOL. MAGNATYRANNUS SOLUS IS NOW ACTIVE. EXPECT NO SURVIVORS.

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@lone bronze unnamed

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https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/890818887796768768?s=19

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

ALLFATHER.F REPLICATED.
THRONEBREAKER.F DELETED.
ALPHONSE.F DELETED.
SYSTEM RECOVERY REQUIRED.
INITIATING REBOOT.

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Alphonse is Quetz

lone bronze Apr 24, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Interesting, Ty!

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Basically Thagomize refers to the thagomizers, or the spikes on a stego's tail

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:11 PM

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But thronebreaker hasn't been released

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Probably just another predator strain thing

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Most people think it's something that has to do with Spinosaurus.

muted steppe Apr 24, 2018, 4:13 PM

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I think Don explained it was some vote for Survival between Stego (Thagomize), Trike (Gore), and I think Pachyrhino (Juggernaut)?

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I could be wrong, though

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Eh, anything that has to do with even more predator strains/mutations/ alterations to make them even meaner and more murderous is kinda boring now outside of just admiring the skill and effort they put into the models and animations

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Also, dunno why he would need that vote if it was for adding a dino. Trike is already in. Then again, it could just be a vote for which special gets added

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Well, added first

muted steppe Apr 24, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Pretty sure it was up when only T.rex, Carno and Utah were in Survival

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Indeed it was

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August of last year

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Why are people making a fuss of it now though =-=

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Eh

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I kinda wish people had voted pachyrhino

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The idea of a near unstoppable battering ram was fun

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Or stego as a super bleeder

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But I guess people wanted trikes to fight the big bad rexes and look where that got us lol

sinful sable Apr 24, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Because Juggernaut was brought up. No one is fussing over it

plain gale Apr 24, 2018, 5:15 PM

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"near unstoppable" is an overstatement

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pachyrhino was smaller than trike

peak glade Apr 24, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Doesn’t matter if it’s stats compensate

crude pawn Apr 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

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The idea of it is that the more it keeps running, the more impact force it builds up

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One theory I heard is that it was going to be able to smash through walls and the like. But otherwise it seems to be intended to be the high chance leg breaker of the herbs

blissful plume Apr 25, 2018, 7:10 AM

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What if there was some bacteria or some cell organism that could replicate live or dead tissue with the right tinkering by scientist.

Gen 1, what the type suggest, was the first batch of dinos made as a test to see how far back they can bring life back. Now that scientists know that they can bring them back, they can add and adjust the dinos to they're liking. Now, what if something went wrong and made a Hypo/Nero or Tesso.
May have not came out right but they pursuit it to perfect it.

As they do that, they took the same tissue from the dinos with the bacteria or some cell organism and injected it into a human, making the cannibals, reaper and colossus.

sharp frigate Apr 25, 2018, 7:45 AM

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IMO I think that the strains are deliberate and intentional

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Probably not cannibals though

blissful plume Apr 25, 2018, 7:55 AM

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If it was deliberate then the hypos were the first to be made then the M type as a way to fix the Hypo's extreme energy use.

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As for cannibals, could have been a mistake that went wrong if they one creature can change others as a mutant. I remember seeing something on the loading page about human test subjects dying when exposed to the Bactria, only a few lived, I think 12.

What's to say a creature (Lets say Nero's) can change others into mutated beasts.

sharp frigate Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Probably the echidna

📎 latest.png

blissful plume Apr 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

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exactly

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What if they tested a nero strain on a human and changed the people that worked in this facility into cannibals. Maybe it can selectively change humans into any type it wants. But what is its benefit if it does turn someone into a mutant. At this point am thinking they're like ants. Queen, warriors, drones and hunters. In game the Echidna would have to give a boost of some sort to not make the cannibals eat they're maker.

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I would say more but at this point its like 3 AM. Ill see what others think of this later. I may just to a diagram of the events of what may have happened and the UI and other details they put in the game.

blissful plume Apr 25, 2018, 8:33 AM

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One more thing about the M type. Could the reason for it being made was for military purposes or for combating against hypos as they seem a bit out of they're control with they're hunger.

placid harness Apr 25, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Type M seems like a fixed version of Type H. Generally seems more outfitted for tactical use. I don't know of the Magnatyrannus' abilities yet, but I know the Magnaraptor is an OP tracker. To quote Dondi, "It's scent will actually be stupid" (stupidly strong, that is).

We have already seen what a Type-M Rex is capable of though; killing a Type-H counterpart. We also know it doesn't need to eat nearly as much as its Hyperendocrin counterparts. Maybe that's part of the perfected aspect? An extremely efficient digestive track that allows it to make the most out of what it eats, instead of a taking in as much calories as possible and probably taking a big, -2 pH Hyperendocrin shit.

sinful sable Apr 25, 2018, 2:54 PM

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~~This has high JP novel similarities~~

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"You're treating the animals like software..."

blissful plume Apr 25, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Considering when we die we get to hear are heart monitors go flat and are view is placed outside of a screen, we might as well be programed creatures.

placid harness Apr 25, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Or we are just viewers.

high heath Apr 25, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Yeah, could be a drone or some type of camera or tag in the animal.

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Which means that the animals have been captured or bred in labs and were tagged before hand, studying vitals and what the animals do.

placid harness Apr 25, 2018, 7:52 PM

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By the way, that Alfred quote from the stream probably refers to the Cannibals.

icy onyx Apr 25, 2018, 7:53 PM

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^

placid harness Apr 25, 2018, 7:54 PM

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"That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel."

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I guess you'll probably know when you are going to turn into a cannibal.

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Maybe there are specific ingredients that Mercs or Tribals can garner to cure... you know... THE TURNING.

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A high fever would start it off. The person might start to to be more aggressive, sometimes lash out completely at their friends. Soon, they know it is coming, and that there is next to nothing they can do. Then they go through some metamorphoses and become the Cannibals.

drifting night Apr 25, 2018, 8:12 PM

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^that would be scary fucking cool

icy onyx Apr 25, 2018, 8:27 PM

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that would be neat 😄

hearty mulch Apr 25, 2018, 8:31 PM

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That and echidna's annihilation style reflection shit.

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Which blends you with her and her abnormalities. Possibly.

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If she's the only active source for N-Types

placid harness Apr 25, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Well that just threw the egg in the spaghetti.

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Time to craft more theories.

river marsh Apr 25, 2018, 9:17 PM

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If hypos are the speculative prototype of magna, then given some "unexpected" repercussions from certain strains (neuros -ie cannibals) you think we might see some "improved" versions of them as well? Neuro Spino might already be an example of said improved neuro strain given its potential abilities.

hushed salmon Apr 25, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Strains are called strains because their creation process has something to do with the "Culturing" of specimens (Killing and breeding survivors and doing it over and over to make the population stronger), like bacteria and other microorganisms. Or it literally is a strain of microorganism that infects creatures and makes them develop the strains characteristics.

river marsh Apr 25, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Question is, what the fuck are they being made for. We know the tools they have, but whats the purpose >.>

icy onyx Apr 25, 2018, 10:50 PM

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@Keitsumah#2657 Perhaps for military purposes, which is the most likely theory of why these strains and dinosaurs were created. As for why use human strains instead of dinosaurs? Four words... They can open doors. (And use tools, but they have strain abilities on their side.) A human with the strain can easily go inside of a base, and kill and humans in there.

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However that is just my theory.

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And for dinosaurs, they would likely have more advanced abilities, for example, the nuero being able to disable electronics, hypo being able to literally destroy almost anything (which can be helpful for crushing human structures.) , and the tisso being able to sneak (most likely to avoid gunfire)

outer hull Apr 26, 2018, 12:39 AM

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What strain makes a cannibal?

nimble flare Apr 26, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I think our current best guess is that the cannibal is not a typical strain, but rather a strain of its own.

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or possibly, maybe magna, because if it is an existing 'strain' then magna is the only option left for humans, despite magna not being a strain

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but that is just wild speculation

shy basin Apr 26, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Its at least linked to neuro tho

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Echnida is neuro iirc and shes the mother of the cannibals

nimble flare Apr 26, 2018, 12:49 AM

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The cannibal has features of all 3 strains too, It is huge like a hypo, Fast and agile like a tisso and eyeless like a neuro. The Echidna is most likely the thing that makes cannibals, but who knows what she puts into them

sinful sable Apr 26, 2018, 3:02 AM

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How much bigger then a Human is the cannibal again? Is it like 125% bigger?

river marsh Apr 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Um

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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It's a few feet taller than a human that's all I know 🤷

river marsh Apr 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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N spino is bigger than normal

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So that doesn't mean a cannibal can't just be an n human

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I think you guys might be overcomplicating it. What if the echidna just got out of containment and contaminated the scientists there? Then they freaked out and called for help but they were becoming cannibals

sinful sable Apr 26, 2018, 3:18 AM

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If it's less the double a humans height then it's more likely to be a Neuro

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Hunched over he's taller than a human

sinful sable Apr 26, 2018, 3:19 AM

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He's also got long dancers legs.

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So I wouldn't say that screams "Oh my gosh it's totally got Hypo in it"

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 3:20 AM

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I'll show ya something one sec

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But yeah, decent size gap

river marsh Apr 26, 2018, 3:28 AM

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no armor which is a huge tell of hypo as well, and no quills which is a tell of tisso

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just rough skin

shy basin Apr 26, 2018, 11:27 AM

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https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/989465709641060357?s=19

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

We are not a distress call. We are a warning.

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🤔

copper kestrel Apr 26, 2018, 11:28 AM

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+1 🤔

river marsh Apr 26, 2018, 12:29 PM

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I feel that might be a threat from the mother of cannibals. Thoughts?

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 12:50 PM

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no it's mercs establishing dominance

hearty mulch Apr 26, 2018, 12:54 PM

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why would mercs establish dominance by telling themselves they aren't a distress call

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When they are the ones invading

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 12:55 PM

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infighting 🗡

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 12:58 PM

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If it were the echidna I feel like the message would be singular

vocal violet Apr 26, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Theory group there's a transmission chat

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Just noticed

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Intriguing

nimble flare Apr 26, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Oh sweet

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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#transmissions

coral sequoia Apr 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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that twitter did say “we are live”

nimble flare Apr 26, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Result: Pushed
I feel like that might be something notable

barren glade Apr 26, 2018, 2:25 PM

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it is now saying that it is live

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and just noticed its located on site 12 where could that be ?

supple dome Apr 26, 2018, 2:36 PM

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site 12?

coral sequoia Apr 26, 2018, 2:43 PM

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i’m waiting to see that account pop into a VC while i’m the middle of a class

sinful sable Apr 26, 2018, 2:45 PM

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What the hell.....transmissions is up but I can't see the history?

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So what do you do. Leave it open? Because if you're a second late then it won't show.

orchid nimbus Apr 26, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Yeah, how comes that we (or at least I) don't have access

muted steppe Apr 26, 2018, 4:09 PM

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https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/989486769073631232
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/989487662225547264
https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/989488991538896898

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

The signal will reach all of you.

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

Result: Pushed.

Olympus Transmitter (@AEOlympusTransm)

Relay. We are live.

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I get the feeling relay = retweet

amber fox Apr 26, 2018, 4:35 PM

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🤔

serene wadi Apr 26, 2018, 5:02 PM

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r e l a y the crap out of it.

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Although this time we don't even know how many times we're supposed to "retweet" it

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 5:05 PM

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You can only retweet it once per account so

muted steppe Apr 26, 2018, 5:05 PM

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We still didn't retweet that one old tweet enough times either.

serene wadi Apr 26, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Usually when they do this kind of stuff it's like "500 retweets and you get this"

muted steppe Apr 26, 2018, 5:06 PM

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https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/889755761659699200

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

50454e44494e472055504c494e4b2e20314b205349474e414c532052455155495245442e2055504c494e4b20434f44453a20494e4645524e4f

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placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 9:54 PM

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I have a gut feeling that things are going to get weird.

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Weirder than psychic dinosaurs.

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Yay!

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Think about it though, when is the last time we saw transmissions of this frequency?

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Going out on a limb here, but I seriously feel like something BIG is going to happen.

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Surprised no one brought up Typhon

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Who is typhon

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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big boy

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biggest of boys

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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A Titan

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Son of Tartarus and Gaia

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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flashbacks of titanfall

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Imprisoned within Tartarus

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so it's a name that should pop up within the lore no?

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Probably

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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"Typhon's story is also connected with that of Python (the serpent killed by Apollo)"

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Hmm?

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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APOLLO?!?

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AHH

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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See?

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SEE?

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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O H

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Hm.

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Why have no one brought this fucker up?

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Because it isn't popular as the other things

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

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oOOOOooOoOoOo

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giant serpant sounds familiar in a different mythos

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it inspired a fuckin huge monster hunter creature but i don't remember its name

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 10:27 PM

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inb4 it's all greek mythos and all the titans are just reincarned as mutants vying for payback and world domination

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lol the one from thor

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:27 PM

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nono

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Jormungandr.

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 10:27 PM

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jormangdur

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or something

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ye

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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its like...i think from hindu??

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Isle is more on the side of Greek Mythos however

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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i dunno around that area theres a giant fuckin snake

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Is it a giant snake god you are thinking of?

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Only time something norse popped up was "Allfather"

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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y e s

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Anantashesha or something?

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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yes yes that might be it

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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lets explore the symbolism

hearty mulch Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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There's also Ouroboros

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But dunno if greek

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I forget

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Allfather...

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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all the lesser creatures are just instruments to fuck eachother up

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Wait so

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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A link to Zeus appears when you type Allfather into Google and follow the Wikipedia link.

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Magnatyrannus is Zeus?

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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In Greek mythology Tartarus and Gaia are primordials @misty zealot 🤔🤔

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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???

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

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no no its not ouroboros

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but thats similar

glacial moth Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Hmm

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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in some mythos theres like a giant fuckin snake to do with being able to eat the planet??

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or maybe im just mixing things up..

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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im telling you that was thor

hearty mulch Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Oh wait

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Well

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WELL

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WELL

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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wh

hearty mulch Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Do you mean that egyptian death snake

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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maybe

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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YOU KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR

hearty mulch Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Apophis

tough crow Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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titanoboa

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oh

misty zealot Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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A fuckin Primordial huh?

icy onyx Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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THE PRIMORDIAL IS GAIA, AKA GIANT EARTH MONSTER AHHH

spice coyote Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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he only eats the sun though who cares

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and its not greek

placid harness Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

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everybody run