#isle-lore-theories
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We know giga is, but not necessarily
i have a feeling that you don’t use a dinosaur to become a hypo, or any strain. you probably play as a human and do all these steps n stuff in the buildings to “transfer the consciousness” into the hypo. when you die and it says all that replicating stuff it also says “consciousness transferred” or something along the lines of that. i think in order to transfer your consciousness you have to be able to use technology and at least read..... a dino can’t read... or type...
so it won’t matter if spino or giga is in survival yet or not
I agree
The theme of revivication, multi concioussess etc are repeating themes in the game, however subtle.
Problem with cannibros is they can reproduce
^
Fixed. I'll say again, this channel is for legitimate theorycrafting and not shitposting or offtopic discussion.
i’m sorry was that about what i said? if so, can someone please explain what “theories” exactly can be included in this?
Oh no, it was someone else. Don't worry @dull falcon
ill delete that
oh mmkay i got scared lol
Make sense if the devs made becoming a hyper and canibal hard to get, however I do believe the canibals will be a tad easier due to their properties
compared to tier 4 dinos, they wouldn't be too op, except to humans
But as Dondi stated, in the hands of a good player it's a beast, in the hands of a shit player, it's trash
Unless it's changed, it's possible you'd have to kill another animal from the other 2 strains in order to become the Hyperendocrines
Check pinned
tf is with all the greek mythological themes
is it just coincidence?
theres the caduceus in the intro static
and Apollo Engineering
How could that be a coincidence?
Or it could just sound cool
I do believe a lot of greek themes will make an occurance..
@glad tiger Someone didnt read the channel description I see...
This channel is for lore discussions only, not theories about future updates and the development process. Please direct those to #401464048610312195
Deleting off-topic posts now. I'mma kick the next person I catch posting off-topic in here.
I was listing the the OST for the isle and came to the conclusion based on the names of two song that the isle's lore is based on something more super natual and less science fictional. Names like "Thousand Life Contract" and "Acts of God" could be taken metaphoric for science gone wrong, but I recal Dondi saying on stream that he believes in some supernatural things (his previous house being haunted) and I believe he is a horror fan. For a survial, dinosaur themed game to have some supernatural things happen in the lore shouldn't be that shocking but I don't think anybody has done it before.
Maybe this is true for the being reborn thing, but the rest makes more sense with sci-fi
supernatural and scifi dont exlude each other, in fact they can supplement each other quite well if done right
I have a feeling that the hypos are thought as gods or something of that power to the tribals like how King Kong is to the tribals, that may be the reason for the giant hypo head in the mountain, it may have been carved by the tribals
Didn't Dondi say something about like "Advanced enough technology is indistinguishable from magic" ?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
174
Yeah, so it's probably tech that we can't understand
Probably something so hard to find that it’s hidden in plain sight. If you understand the world of technology it all becomes easier
i do 😃
I'm thinking babe something alongs the lines of human emotions. Like the idea that was thrown around that dinosaurs that eat their won kind become albino. Maybe dinosaurs that eat canibals or humans that performed taboo rituals will cause them to change into monsters. This is the same idea with ghosts and supernatual stuff. That somebody dies and because they are so pissed and/or delt injustice that they come to haunt the place or individuals until they are happy with the results. It sounds silly and selfish but it plays into our emotions. Maybe it's similar to "Out Last" and "Evil Within" where they combine science fiction and supernatual elements. I think it would be too standard if it just anoter science gone wrong story and the names of the music so far suggest the possiblity. "Thousand Life Contract" might be the music for the canibal mother, who did some ritual and made a deal with a devil/god figure. You have to ask Why are the Tibals and Canibals a thing, and why are they so closely tied together (tribals are supose to turn into canibals or something of the sort). If it was just a purely science fiction story that means somebody with alot of money is probably turning tribals into canibals otherwise.
Wasn't the cannibal mother a human injected with the tisso strain? Maybe she turns tribals into cannibals or they mutate the same way she did maybe by coming in contact with the blood of a killed tisso creature
What came first, the tisso or the strain?
RE? rip the re emote ;3;
But there is strains
lol
I thought the cannibal mother was a human injected with the neurotenic strain, and the worship it as the “mastermind” or something
Yeah she had neurotenic abnormalities replicated inside her, not tisso stuff inserted in.
Mother of all monsters
according to the lore how smart is utahraptor supposed to be ?
depends on the generation
gen 2 said in the loading screen that it was as smart as hominids iirc
so pretty damn smart?
Would the new model be considered Gen 2? Would be an interesting 4th wall break
Well the new model looks kind of like JP raptors..."they can open doors"
clever girl
Still does look way better than the old model for sure
Getting rather close there to topic derail friendo' 😉
So the Hypos have either escaped or been released, along with the Magna.
The whole correlation between the Hypos and Magnas points to the possibility that the Magna is meant to hunt the Hypos.
The only problem I see with this possibility is that the Magna only has a chance of defeating a Hypo, and could easily be overpowered by the larger animal.
But I don't see what another of the Magna could be.
Unless each Magna animal is meant to counter a specific Strain
Which would make sense with the M. Raptor's ability to sense heat, thus lessening the impact of the Tisso's camo and stealth abilities
If it was meant to counter a specific strain, then that strain would probably be the Hypos. There would be no reason to release that photo of the Magna defeating the Hypo if that were not the case. But I get where you're coming from.
If the hypos were in fact 'released' who released them, and why?
@open compass
@umbral tusk No way to know for sure. Could be a variety of reasons. The one that comes to mind would be testing the Magnatyrannus in a living environment.
Or they escaped
Also, Dondi stated that we haven't figured out what the reason for the creation of Magnatyrannus was anyways, so instead of jumping into the why's and how's, what do we know?
Pick it apart piece by piece
The name Magnatyrannus means
Magna = "great"
Tyrannus or Tyrannos in Greek "monarch, ruler of a polis"
The only thing I see wrong with the countering Hypos theory is the question " Why create an animal that is smaller and physically weaker to hunt a huge animal?"
Solus means unaccompanied or alone
So... Great Monarch, ruler of a polis, who is alone.
So there's only one of him
Being the sole ruler would logically include destroying any competition
Exactly
So the key state of mind for Magna is "destroy those who are competition?"
That would explain why the Magna wants to go after the Hypos.
Maybe the people that made the Hypos don't want them to become insanely powerful so they created the Magna to balance it out. It's stronger than normal apexes, but it still has a chance to kill those a tier above.
I know it's silly and this should be taken with a grain of rice but could there be a chance that the Magna is herding the Hypos?
Wdym
Like
Okay so we've seen the Hypo giga in random servers right?
And who comes right after looking for the giga?
The Magna.
The Hypos 'escaped' and the Magna wants to get them back into containment?
Idk.
Why would the Hypos not attempt to kill the Magna, then?
Maybe there's something wrong with it, that makes them unable to kill it.
I believe we were onto something but now I feel we're going off again lol.
Maybe, once the Magna is dead, it is simply replicated again and therefore cannot be killed permanently
And the Hypos have learned this
That's what happens when every dinosaur respawns
It is replicated
So under this idea, the Magna would have gathered previous lifetimes worth of knowledge on the hunting/herding of hypos, making it less reliant on it's power deficit
And while the Hypos are the powerhouses, the Magna is the smarter one? That would explain the name, it knows how to keep them in line. It is the Great Monarch who rules alone.
So while it is logical that the Hypos are fucking terrifying, maybe we should be more scared of the Magna because it's smarter.
Wouldn't say smarter, probably wiser is the better term
Yes.
We've been focusing so much on the Hypos, we've been forgetting the Magna. The answer is literally in its name lol.
So the whole, "Assimilate the Magna Tyrannus" is "Kill a hypo as a predator" ?
Maybe specifically a rex?
Quote "The strain is AE's attempt to create the perfect specimen." I don't think AE was trying to make it's goal in life to kill the Hypos, but maybe literally the only reason the Magna is here is to keep the Hypos in line.
Where is that from?
Oh, thought you were talking about hypo not magna
Pretty sure hypos weren't made by people
The introduction to the Magna, if we're looking at the nitty gritty of things, someone must have taken those pictures, so maybe this was AE's way of testing to see if the Magna was able to take on the Hypo?
Oh, I thought they were.
Never confirmed nor denied
not confirming anything here
but in a recent stream when don did the lineup
and he said we had no idea what the magna was for, prompting the sperglings to start vomiting out theories
I thought he commented on someone asking if magnas where anti strains
I can get the clip to be sure
The only thing I heard from the stream was someone saying it was a 'transition' which he quickly shut them down by saying it wasn't
Or that I remember from it anyway lol
Anyway, the announcement that the Magna had entered the Hypo containment facility leads me to believe that the battle was a planned test, as you said
Aye.
it was a little after that yes?
If it's there, it would be
Oop, guess I didn't get that bit.
I'll see if there's another clip that includes it.
Thanks!
Considering that killing Hypos is the main grabbing point of the Magna, I have no clue as to what it's purpose would be outside of that
Well, if it was meant to kill them, then AE would have made it stronger.
Than them
But maybe like I said earlier, it's suppose to herd them or some shit idk
Or make sure they don't get too strong?
But they're already nearly unstoppable eating machines that destroy ecosystems
And yet it killed one.
So I would say they're relatively powerful
Maybe true for other mysteries , but in the clip above, Dondi speaks as if it's entirely possible to solve the purpose of the Magna
Can't seem to find any clips of Dondi discrediting the "anti-Hyperendocrin" theories.
Ree.
Yay, theory stands for now
'tis a dumb theory though.
Yeah
I don't see any others
It's probably the most obvious answer possible
Dondi stated that anything with the name SOLUS was made by AE right?
military purposes
Ahhh nvm it's stupid lol
I mean, if you're gonna go through the trouble of genetically engineering a dinosaur for war
You might as well have just built like, more tanks, or something
but tanks dont self reproduce
Maybe they are a way of controlling the dinosaur populations on the isle?
mercs?
well the mercs are sent in
theyre supposed to be airdropped in
although it would make more sense that whatever corporation owned the isle lost control
and needed to have information retrieved, hence the mercenaries
It just seems like the Magna is either a mistake, which is unlikely, or extremely specialized, which would explain why they would bother making it
No, the Magna is AE's attempt to create the "perfect specimen".
For What? Survival?
Who knows.
Perfect specimen for breaking loose and eating their asses
Literally
But it hasn't broken loose...
This is the isle
The Hypos have, did they not?
It’s Gonna break loose
Or it's gonna be their weapon against other specimens escaping
Whatever floats ya boat
No way of knowing until it happens
I've always had a hunch that the strains (without the dinosaurs) were a natural occurence themselves
and that either A. Dinosaurs that escaped got mutated B. They used the strains to experiment on things or C. Both
And Magna strains are a 100% man-made strain / enhanced version of a dinosaur
But I'm most likely completely wrong
If A is true, then I think it would make some sense to assume that Magnas were created to hunt down and kill rogue dinosaurs with strains
I don't really know how asking the console questions works but I would really like to know what the magna strain and / or the magna rex really are and what their purpose is
If the magna was created to hunt down strains, would that make it the “good guy”? And when the tweet was posted-“Magnatyrannus Solus activated, there will be no survivors” it isn’t referring to humans as survivors, it’s referring to the escaped strains as being the ones who won’t survive. There’s a pretty good chance that the Magna Rex is man made and released on purpose since it says “activated” and not “escaped”
^ It's so funny because this theory was something I made up and I didn't really think anything of it, but now that we're actually thinking about it, it does make a lot of sense. But no, I don't think it would make the Magna a good guy because this is still a predator we're talking about. Remember, it's name means Monarch of a Polis who rules alone, so I think it literally just wants to wipe out any competition. However, this goes against the Magnaraptor because if it was alone, then what's the point of the Raptor?
The Magna-saurs may just be a different series of genetic manipulation experiments than the strains, assuming that is what the strains are
They look less like abominations of science and more like hybridized animals, with Magnaraptor having some pit viper/monitor lizard qualities and Magnatyrannus having crocodilian scutes
Remember, Allfather was the replication of the magna right before it killed the Hypo. This suggests that it was created after the hypo already existed. This kinda serves as evidence for the “magna was created to kill hypo” theory. Not sure if i fully believe it tho, just putting this out there.
Hold on. I heard the store page changed and one of the upcoming features says “The Escape’ global in-game world quest”
So..... thoughts and theories as to what this is/how to escape????
Another part says “discover how you came here and how to escape” ???
I don't think we have enough info on that, but it probably involves escaping the island
Maybe we're all trapped or something
I mean, we're not really allowed to leave, so I would say we're for sure trapped
Also quickly on the Magna, it may have been created before the Hypo, as it was simply replicated the time we saw it
It was initially obtained by AE from Phoenix Corp. though
/D?
How is that a theory
yeah.
Could be the Olympus transmitter??
Are we allowed to dm devs?
Ask it a question lol
Is there a way of checking when it was added?
Could be broadcasting more code later, like the transmitter before. It was flashing the online circle in code. We need to watch for that
Should I ask it a question lmao
I asked that
nice
I asked what 1995 was
It's not online though
It's Idle.
it's dondi and if you pester him you're gonna get zapped
O no
Okay, no more of that
So it’s nothing special, just Dondi changed his name?
I mean it's clearly something special, we just have to wait, til' something happens
Lore-related discussions only here, please.
oh gosh sorry wrong channel
so
i was messing around with the death screen bc i was curious and???
also i mispelled reestablish so pls ignore ty
just type it.
Nothing.
oh well, good find nonetheless.
👀 well this chat got interesting
and it's someone trying to communicate
CLOCK: Human (?)
CLOCK: Programming..
ERROR 33 SYSTEM FAULT
Is anyone there?
10%
42%...
77%...
99%...
WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISED
Please enter .... code
that's what i have
so far
1 9 9 5 perhaps?
Oof holy shit
the code is ******* but it's not showing up cause i edited it
Ah it's only 3 characters
Oh shit
O L Y M P U S matches 7
We're thinking it's Olympus
but it seems too obvious.
allright.
Cool.
they're v hard to see
print screens Allright maddie lets do some tinkering
oh it might be saying check not clock
Login: Apollo Mainframe Login: 999992 days ago
CLOCK: Human (?)
CLOCK: Programming..
ERROR 33 SYSTEM FAULT
Is anyone there?
10%
42%...
77%...
99%...
WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISED
Please enter .... code
*** (it has 7 letters)
ERROR - Unable to establish connection to (and then there's three words after)
Attempting to re-establish linkup in 30 seconds...
HELP ME!
god damn
Olympus has seven letters.
Maybe get to the death screen again and use "OLYMPUS"? I'm assuming the three words after the "unable to establish connection" is the CCH code
Updating it as I find more so I don't have to keep posting it.
she tried using OLYMPUS
yeah nothing happened
Alright.
Just gonna throw Echidna as a suggestion but again I have my doubts
Sorry, wasn't here. Are you repeatedly dying as something specific or just random animals
@maddie#3496
@umbral tusk
Oh whoops
Also after the
HELP ME!
Network Intrusion Detected
INIT SiteTrace.exe
Attempting to verify source...
ERROR: Cannot identify carrier signal, satellite triangulation required
INIT. T.E. satellite linkup...
WARNING! - System Efficiency @15%
WARNING! - Power Cells Depleted
I've died as utahs. Since they're the easiest to jump off cliffs with.
Yeah, I've just been dying as heavy stuff. Seems to be the same
Thank you for the help tho, I'll add it to the google doc lol
Also the words you're looking for after "ERROR - Unable to establish connection to" is "Harvest Base"
How are you seeing this? Literally I cannot make anything that you're making out
Snipping tool with a timed delay
makes it easier
It's also the same text feed on the main menu above the buttons
Not a coincidence that 'new Dondi''s name is OLYMPUS.
Thermal Mug(?) Rig engaged Latest Apollo Mainframe Login: 999999 days agoCHECK:#Human presenceCHECK Program running...ERROR 93 SYSTEM FAULT (file error 93 usually means that the file is locked by another user)>Is anyone there?10%42%...77%...99%...WARNING - SYSTEM COMPROMISEDPlease enter...
Hm..
this game looks like a jp expanded universe, that contains jp itself
Could you specifiy the artwork?
Jorge
The one you were talking about in #401464048610312195 @royal pilot
How is this a theory lol
It's not a theory, and it doesn't belong here. Take it to the appropriate channel
Hey, I have a theory relating to Dondi's discord thing saying OLYMPUS now. What if, those 4 numbers after his name are a code for something. I know he doesn't get to chose them (I don't think), but that doesn't mean he can't use them.
choose*
No I don't think that's even anything worth to be looked at tbh.
It's just your discord ID.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Nitro me boy
And Phoebus is Apollo's first name if you're looking for some 7 letter code. could try that.
Olympus is also a 7 letter code. Even if it was, honestly, where would you put the code? ;n;
Dunno, but frankly anything is good at this point XD
Maybe try the game's chat.
You know the button typing sound
Could be related.
I don't know if you can access it when you die, but maybe right before you do?
Or even the ` console
can't use that anymore
rip
you can change your Id with nitro
This is true.
Dondi doesn't have nitro on his current account.
the 4 digits are plausible
He did on his previous one,but not the current one.
This also appears to be true because I don't see the nitro symbol on his profile. Though I'm not sure if they could hide that or not anyways. Don't know enough about discord nitro tbh
Found some more code for the death screen.
But I need help decoding this one line. Anyone mind?
What's the line
Gonna send it to you
Guys that death screen... it's a narrative.
So someone accesses the mainframe in the beginning right? Check it out on the doc. And at the end, the system responds by sending a "Counter Measure", likely something to stop the logging in from continuing. It activates Thermal Vision to track the Counter Measure and the Person trying to log in. The guy accessing the mainframe terminal thinks it's a transmitter and he's asking if "anyone is there" and "HELP ME!" So that leads DEdinosaur and I to believe that this guy is trapped or in trouble.
Safe to assume the "counter measure" is an living thing? Hence the thermal vision needed to track it*
not super safe, thermal vision could be to track the person trying to login
We have no idea what kinda technology we're working with here so it could be some sort of security thing or it very well may be a living thing.
I'd assume advanced technology considering Apollo's accomplishments in genetic engineering
Yeah, also to clarify, it's unclear where the log begins and ends, as it always loops
It could be both an organic subject as well as a security measure
It most likely begins at Apollo Mainframe Login
If this is what it's telling us, then it changes a lot of what we already know tbh
A sort of deployable predator used in situations such as this
Also maddie, the words after "ERROR - Unable to establish connection to" is "Harvest Base"
Bless ur soul
I'll fix that rn
Done. And if so, what in the fuck is a harvest base
Also the word before "code" is "clearance"
Where are all the theorists? This may be a game breaking theory 😂🤔
So, "THE END IS NEVER" isn't the person inputting stuff, as it doesn't have the ">" before it
It's the computer
Kinda far fetched but maybe the reason it's on the death screen is because the dude died and, since transfer of consciousness and replication is a reoccurring theme, maybe he was made into something else?
Is it possible to access the console anymore?
The "security measure" itself may have been the cause of his or her death.
Maybe it actually starts at "Signal Source Locked"
Leading to the Counter Measure causing the terror, and ending with "THE END IS NEVER"
Just to clarify, all this info (including all that about deploying a security measure and all that) was taken from death screens?
No because it repeats itself. I deleted the repetition. It starts with Thermal imaging engaged.
You know how on the bottom left there's quick text on the death screen?
That's it. That's what it says. Everything on the doc, so yes
Starts with Thermal imaging?
Yes
So somone tried fucking with (what I'd assume to be) a central replication system, same one responsible for replicating all deceased inhabitants of the isle
Yes, it seems so.
and these are perhaps black box logs?
Yes
or simply just stored data
Black box most likely
I would assume it's the same thing referred to as the "Replicator" in the Console Stream
From how it picks up e v e r y t h i n g
This is crazy tbh
We need someone (cough a dev cough) to verify this
Not that they would but I can dream
Yeah, that's like, the least likely thing to happen
But yeah, maybe this is how everything started.
Maybe it's a survivor of Phoenix or whatever or whoever that's trapped and trying to escape. He's obviously trying to communicate
I don't think anything survived Inferno honestly
would be kinda fucked if the inhabitants of the people and animals on the isle where pheonix members being forcibly replicated
Omg
trapped in a sort of limbo of neverending death
Wouldn't that make us the phoenix members?
I do think we just discovered some part of the lore
Not sure
However small or big.
no direct evidence regarding if any of the mentioned individuals are apart of pheonix
Because, why else would they show that to us?
Because it shows that the mainframe can be accessed?
Hm
but we still have no idea how old this information is
And that it doesn't particularly like people near it?
so there's no real way to tell if it can still be accessed or if that person fucked us all over
by engaging that "security breach"
Was this the way the log always was?
Possible progress*
Sup?
Dondi made a tweet on january 2nd
with the word "breach"
All of it, with the units and everything. They sent in units to HELP
At first when the death screen sent in a security mesure that needed thermal imagery to track,
I thought it meant like a tisso animal
but looking at this
It may have been military units
@umbral tusk The picture of the merc came with the tagline of "you have no idea what's coming for you"
so I'm not so sure they where there to help, but prevent that breach
I am here y did u tag frend
Maybe someone, like an actual player, accessed the terminal without realizing, and triggered human implementation?
I'm doubting that the footage on that tweet is the thermal image
Because, following this train of thought, the mercs are there to stop the Breach on the Isle
Oh yeah, no
not thermal
It's security footage, not thermal sorry
But the: AE-001 gif shows the same location
The location is important for some reason
So to recap any progress we've made
We found all that death screen stuff
a sort of log detailing someone trying to break into (what we now assume to be) the central replication system (considering it shows on the death screen)
We think it's a black box record
or some kind of important software
prompting security measures to be taken, cameras to be activated
etc. etc.
It's possible that this is linked to a tweet dondi made back in january regarding a "breach"
Security possibly meaning introduction of mercs
^
which would explain why the picture of the merc released in that tweet had the tag, "You have no idea what's coming for you."
Maybe that 1000 retweet thing was that thing we just discovered
the whole "Reclamation of Site 12. Code: OLYMPUS" accompanying the helicopter could very well mean that these mercs where here to not only elimate that person accessing the system (reclaiming the area?), but obviously explains how they got there
it's a bit too early in human development to be sure but a possible theory is that these aren't the playable mercs
rather isle security that prevent these kinds of breaches
They must have shitty security for a person to get into the mainframe
(why we aren't playing as their character models now)
then agian, still too early in human dev to tell
Who said it was a person?
The gif we recovered a while ago called AE-001 showed this site
so does this tweet's camera footage
so it's very well possible that this is a location on AE-001 that the 'hacker' as we'll call him/her breached
(site 12)
that the "security measures" where sent to
this is where it might get confusing
I tried connecting the loading screen "helipad" to all of this
The executive Heli?
but that seems to pretain to officials and other executives exclusively
But perhaps "asset relocation" ties into all of this?
... is this location in AE-001 now?
It makes mulitple mentions of a "site --" (site 12? as in the facility on AE-001 where the breach could have occured?)
and also makes mention of the geological integrity of -----
"These restrictions are only lifted in the case of Emergency Protocol ----- ----"
Just a quick thing, but either, the mainframe is broken and couldn't track how long it had been off, or nobody had logged in for 3000 years
Which is a bit long
Did he?
I think??
I thought he was talking about the respawn screen
How it's busted up at the bottom
Could be the same thing
I mean the homescreen is a terminal I think pls I might be stupid idk?
How would you type anything though
Who's to say the keyboard isn't right below the screen, covered in plant life or worse?
as it scrolls up the pillars have the top running all the way across. the only thign that's missing is the water
it played slower on my phone than it is now im on pc
Anybody have screenshots of the aqueducts?
Cause I'm pretty sure the gif depicts this:
Looks a bit different from aquaducts if you're talking about region 2--I don't see why they'd use that map in lore things anyways
Yeah, that's what I'm saying
ohhhh
the pic from the gif looks more like a modernized version, if anything
but honestly it looks a lot more like a raised highway bridge over a river or something
thats would be an either awfully thin road or really high bridge
What are the things behind the pillars supporting the track?
The black monolith-like things
They look kinda like watchtowers to me
It's an aqueduct, guys. lol
It may be safe to assume that it's not a tie-in to the lore though. But yeah, def an aqueduct.
why are you so sure that its an aqueduct
Especially with modern technology
Some kind of rail system is much more likely if you ask me
cuz they dont
either i have tumors in my eyes or those look about as different as possible
Yeah, I was about to say that it resembles a modern sort of train system.
Personally, I think it's something like a monorail track.
That's the word I was looking for.
Image won't load, hang on
There we go
MUCH more similar to a monorail track than an aqueduct
I mean I would say identical
They're actually not 100% alike
The image from the gif more resembles a rollercoaster track
But I think a monorail-type thing is a more likely explanation
Image from the gif?
That’s not from a gif I’m pretty sure
I have no idea what it's from
That was just posted to the twitter
Whoops
oof
You guys are talking about the stone structure from the region 2 map, right? That's 100% an aqueduct, there's even water coming off of it.
Pretty sure the aqueduct was removed.
no, its about the picture
the black and white one
someone posted the aquaduct picture to compare to the black and white monorail one
Oh you're right, looking back I see it now.
Yeah the black and white picture has to be part of some type of transit system.
this theory isnt even really a theory either- humans have monorails. Neat. It makes sense to transport people from compound to compound or facilities or whatever quickly and will make neat landmarks and setpeices (thinking of you JP trespassor) buti'm not sure what the original point of mentioning it again was?
Could relate to what people were doing on the island.
If it's a large transit system, it means that large quantities of people or supplies were being moved from point to point.
If you scroll up, you can see that we were trying to figure what the structure was, and why it was important enough to appear on both the security image from the tweets and the AE-001 gif
I thought so, but don't now
You guys are repeating the same photo over again, which is pointless to compare it to multiple things. You dont have enough information at this given time to tell waht it form the looks of it.
Since this game is heavily inspired by JP, My personally opinion its a trail rail.
I mean, in the image that's what it clearly seems to be, but if the gif depicts something else, then what?
What gif?
The one with the austroraptor?
Cause if so the tall “towers” just look like part of a fence
Yeah, that Gif's name is RECOVERY AE-001
You know that radar behind the server selection screen? I mapped out the pings
no clue what this means, if anything
you know shit's getting real when theres two dots in the Great Sandy Desert
well... I just ampped them i have no clue what this means
*mapped
and... why is there 3 in greenland?
this I wont know for a while until I get answers from devs (if ever)
Misses nothing
Did I do good?
I'd check the locations of where each dinosaurs fossils are primarilly found. Thats what I guessed it was but I haven't bothered to check. At least...if the numbers match up to how many dinos are in game that is
But the map has no Antarctica
The top dot in the middle of the US looks like it might be the Pine Ridge Reservation
¯_(ツ)_/¯
But there are a lot of reservations and It's not like I could get a perfect location
Apparently there are a lot of important paleontological discoveries made there
I've been looking at google maps and came up with these matches:
A lot of the points match up with National Parks or Nature Reserves
The perfect place to hide genetically modified creatures
Some of them don't have markings on Google Maps, however
Which would be why there are 3 without labels
I believe one of the parks in Asia is R2
1 in North Mali, 2 in West Greenland
So if anyone wants to go deeper and find what those points are, have fun
The ones I couldn't find also all appear to be huge expanses of barren wilderness, so it could just be that
Yes , that is what I typed slightly above this.
I just couldn't find specific reserves that are in those spots on Google maps
Oh, you missed a point on the intital map
In egypt
And in wayy Northern Russia
You know, you missed quite a few points actually
That's better
Cool!
Pretty sure they're digsites that contain dinosaurs from The Isle atm, but I haven't fully checked that
I no longer think it's dig sites
I'm done dealing with this map, here's how far I got if anybody wants to continue:
The points aren't nearly exact because of how weird the radar screen in the menu is
Good Luck
westworld but for dinosaurs?
XD
doesn't look like anything to me.
Just looks like site locations, The Apollo Engineering might use.
Some of them are pretty close to civilisation for top secret facilities
Then again they might not all be research/containment areas
From what I've checked, all the ones near civilization are in National Parks or Nature Reserves
Could also be underground
I also checked them to see if they were linked with any significant bone dig site things and didn’t find anything important :/
I mean, the one in the central us could be the Badlands
What about the tundras?
I am the monarch of the sea
gotem
Guys I have a theory, My theory is that AE is trying to make dinos and other strains for biological weapons
Well, Dinosaurs were also created too to study their natural behavior while for the strains dinos and creatures were created for biological weapons
Seems kind of predictable, but who knows
my theory is that they got ahold of alien technology that can change an organisim into hypo/tisso/neuro strains
It would make sense for the strains or even the cannibals to be caused by some sort of extra terrestrial virus.
But I doubt that “aliens” is a plot device that Dondi would use
Dondi has said before, after being asked, that the Isle has nothing to do with aliens
Anybody have any idea why the mercs are called Survivors on the store page?
When you think about how mercs are supposed to play I think the name might have been just a place holder.
Because they are surviving....?
I mean. You hire mercenaries for jobs. Suddenly that job has big fucking dinosaurs and mutant ones to boot and guess what? Youre surviving.
Survivors were gonna be the tier below Mercs. Dunno if they still will be.
I mean, the store page was updated relatively recently, so I would assume it's still planned
Eh not sure if this was talked about before but did anyone notice the tisso-strain Rex on the first loading screen in the game?
Yes
urh
"Paging Dr. Whyse, Paging Dr. Whyse, Paging Dr. Whyse" followed by https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401469622659973120/411169666854158336/HighresScreenshot00003.png
Which i only assume is a spino fin.
wow where did you get this
Announcements.
🤦
Why would that be spino?
I don't know, it's a tall back like structure with skin?
Oh sorry, I hadn't recognized what it was
Damn, beat me to it.
I see it now
It even has a dip.
Yeah, that's what it's looking like, Neuro
Has the glowey parts at the top
I only thought to put it in here because it seems story related much more then game related and was keeping to the rules of the discord channels :x
Didn't check discussion tab.
also... Dr. Whyse
I’m assuming they had something to do with the development of the neuro spino? but i can only make assumptions
So you have Dr Vega and now Dr Whyse
So, it's been recently developed for AE, and the breakthrough was paged to Dr. Whyse
Also it's likely in water, not in the ground
Also the trees are in the distance
neuro spino coming!
So excited
Wasn't there something about camoflage at some point? what if its not going into but just looking like the ground.
might have been a tisso thing
If I remember rigfht:
Tisso- Camoflauge, Venom, Speed
Neuro: Invisivle, ghost body, EMP
yeah that was an old tisso thing, but tisso is getting reworked so we know nothing about it now
I dont think Neuro ever went invisible, its more it messes with other animals/humans vision
we'll see soon enough x3
Neuro had EMP, being able to communicate with all species, and I think an astral projection.
Tisso just had octopus-like camo and greater speed / agility back then.. and I think also being smaller than its regular counterpart. But it's getting reworked (for some reason), so
Damn. Id say its the neuro spino. Good timing, im about to implement the neuro into the fanfiction ivebeen writing for same time now
the neuro spino has camo? 😮
No furryness or i this case scalyness in your fanfic
@mossy pebble I've very concerned that you have a dev kit
furry playermodels are inevitable
i will personally shoot everyone i see with something along those lines
@tacit finch o0?
Do not worry Toot, I have an army that can do that for you
its personal
We can make arrangements
i aint gonna let no other man do my extermination work for me
Personally that image looks like the neruo spino, if you look at it you can see gaps, and the bone like structure.
Nah my boy magna gonna smash that squid billy
Probs.
Chaos is the best faction ngl
Eh....
Im curious as well since i have been hesitant to touch this channel with a 30 foot stick, yall make any real progress on anything in the past?
Nope.
I am
dissapointed
Neuro's aren't like Hypers, I doubt they will be super speedy
Most likely slower than their normal counterparts
But powerful in defence
Yes
I remember ye olden days when we made progress
once upon a time
That was months ago, When poeple were excited now they just wait for others to do there work.
I'm guessing they are paging Dr. Whyse Cause the Nuero are intelligent and one probably escaped.
Spino...
So they need to know how to take it down, without hurting it maybe...
Scroll up a wee bit lad. Most people think it’s a N-Spino’s sail or something like that.
oh i did scroll up but not far enough. brightening the image was ace... but why is it glowing! Glowing dinosaurs scarry.
Every since it's early concept art, it's had a glow
So, who has the last name Whyse?
Because all the other doctors we know of have been named after real people/devs
Dr. Vega = Rodrigo Vega
Dr. Chance = GalliRuler (Elliott Chance on Steam account)
Khorne was referred to as Damien, from his steam page, by the AE console
Nvm, just watching some archived videos, not necessarily a real person
Just a trend
@dull falcon You have a mistake on the website. The second letter of CCH is Chaos, definitely not Come
In one of the archived videos
these theories are so intense
my buddy manipulated the image. What looks like grass or maybe water reflection nearby the focus object. and those spots in the background could be stars, representing nighttime if this thing cannot enter the sun.
Looks like the vein
I see some trees right at the very edge of the back of it, judging by shape
yes, the little wave
so it seems to be in an open field as seeing there are only trees in the distance, and not too nearby.
Someone posted an image earlier that gave you a pretty good view
i would like to see some better gamut
and yeah damn, that's pretty good
But you can see everything a bit more clearly there
yeah that's impressive
@open compass thanks for letting me know! i forgot to change that, it was copy/pasted from the old google doc
@viscid saddle I think the circle was drawn to show that the structure connects to the ground
Hmm
the textures bleed together at least
It looks like it tapers off behind what could be a hip
I'm not sure
Assuming that the darker part of the object, the part that's still in the circle, is a hip
It looks as though it's extending from the ground, the texture sort of blends together
and what I thought to be a vein earlier, could just be the ground texture stretching over the incline
glowing spino cannot do camo with bright lights on the highest part of his back. hopefully he can sort of "toggle" or dim the lights whilst hunting
if you look at the texture of the sail itself, I'm not seeing any scales
but then again, neuros may just not have any
that could be something else that isn't even a spino
but what im thinking of, was already revealed
Like a sucho
sucho experienced quite the buff there
toot stop confusing them
Never
Though, I feel like talk of this that isn't lore-related might actually belong in #401464048610312195
to be fair, we're still theorizing on what it could be :p
and tbh I'm starting to think it may not be a spino
the trail of glowing bits (not the ones on what I thought where the top of the spino's vertebrae, but the lower ones) have a downward curve
How could you possibly think it's not the Neuro Spinosaurus
its a spino ffs smh
on the spino, the smaller gooey bits on the body itself follow a pretty linear path
then why is it connecting to the ground?
Well keep in mind that the concept art is concept art, so it might not match up perfectly
It's not connected to the ground at all...
refer to the red circle
its not connected jeez
the ground texture is bleeding into that of what we belive to be the spino
What, you mean the fact that the hip in front of the hill?
I actually propose something different about that texture. I think that's a leg, there's a darkish line that could match up with the outline of a thigh or hip. Keep in mind the image is manipulated, so the colors and lighting are not true to life
Yep
Besides, Neuro Spino is something that Dondi has dropped in conversation a few times over the past weeks now, which leads me to think it's been on his mind
We have no reason to believe it's anything else
I remember seeing some art a long while back I think with the Neuro-Spino that had some scientist(s) working it. Perhaps one of them could be Dr. Whyse? Would make sense if he/she had atleast seen or studied it
That was fan-art from tapwing, dont know if thats canon/can be considered to support an actual theory
Well it's design was taken/inspired from Tapwing's. Could potentially
Then again there is art of things unlikely to be in game at all like herbivore strains and what-not. Was just throwing that idea out there
This channels’s always entertaining to read through
M2
I'm going to guess plenty of people have already guessed that Dr. Whyse overlooks the development of the Neurotenic, while Dr. Vega overlooks projects regarding the Tissoplastic?
I had a feeling it was something like that
But I haven't paid a lot of attention to it, I intend to leave a lot of the story stuff until after the game's release
Did we ever get the reveal for those codes on Twitter?
What happened to the Twitter reveal for 1000 retweets?
Delayed, I think.
Those lines on the " object " look like veins to me. But idk.
its guesswork for now
the Dr picture looks like the Primordial extincion spino skin
So, magnas were created by a reason
What was it?
We still don't know, supposely some poeple believe its for killing the hypos.
The only reason I can came up with is that magnas were created to control the hypo situation
Yep, I'm with @icy onyx
Besides, what else could it be?
Well, there is flaw in that. In my opinion
Hypos were much bigger than a magna and had bigger bite force. So its hard to believe they were specificly meant to kill Hypos.
Actually they are, dondi said that the magna Rex was meant to kill the hypo rex
Though there was one that killed a Hypo, which was either really lucky or its much more powerful that I believe.
So I assumed magnas were created to at least establish a control with the hypos
Probably, to hunt down any escaped ones.
Note: People will deem your credibility low without sufficient sources.
???
What i am saying is no, that's not what the strains really do.
Since ever the first mention of strains, way back when due to a Concept art by Vega, people have had some grasp at what they do.
Hyperendocrine Size increase recorded, coupled with armor plating and other species-specific tools but apparent hunger increase.
Tissoplastic Minimal data record: Spikey, enhanced speed and tracking capabilities, possible size decrease.
Neurotenic Little Record, and little size modification, known for higher intelligence, mentioned inter-species communication, "EMP"
Very soft body, described by Don as like a "Jellyfish"
Among other... tasty stuff
Not hard data, but was one of the first data recorded from way back when, subject to change, tho minimal.
We've also since been told the Tissoplastic strain is getting reworked/redone so I would source that as reliable infomation, at least for tisso strain
are there gonna be baby or juvie hypos?
No strain will be able to re produce
Tribals are native to the island, as are the three strain bosses, Colossus/Reaper/Echidna.
When the scientists come to the island and clone the dinosaurs they end up mutating into the strains.
Man then creates Magnas to combat all strains:
Manga Rex:
- able to combat the larger dinosaur strain variations like Hypo/Neuro/Tisso Rex, Giga and Spino, he has slightly less armour than Hypo but is more agile due to his size and is more of a 'jack of all trades' in comparison with the strains making him able to hunt all of them.
Magna Raptor: - able to combat the smaller dinosaur strain variations like Hypo/Neuro/Tisso Hypo and Carno (some speculatory) in packs or alone.
The magna raptor is supposed to be fairly big in comparison to the old Utah size if I remember correctly, so I would say it's safe to assume it could hunt down a normal carno by size alone, and thanks to its abilities, as long as the player was skilled, a hypo one
@misty zealot Oh so that means:
Hypos have increased force with armor but hunger goes faster
Tissos have increased speed, tracking capacities and has a dragon-like appearance
Neuro have more intelligence with apparently psychic powers and have a jelly-like soft body
Right?
so basically hyper colossus is a hypo cannibal, the tisso reaper, tisso cannibal... but what about the neuro, echidna?
They're all 'just' people who've had the strain material inserted into them.
The Neuro Echidna is the mother of all Cannibals
She was probably was the first strain creature of all, and created the Cannibals
There's got to be more to that theory Mutton, because from what I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), but the dinosaurs are going to need human's help to turn into a strain, so if all it takes is getting the strain material inserted, then why would people bother putting them into dinosaurs? Why weaponize animals when you can weaponize man? If the dinos were just preliminary tests, the theory still fails because the dinosaurs more than likely cost quite a bit to make. It would be a waste of money to test them on the dinosaurs without testing them on other, more abundant animals first
Human help is almost certainly NOT required to become a strain. This is not a game centered around cooperating with the other factions. Even if you look at the "taming" system for tribals, it is clearly geared towards both sides of the relationship fearing each others inevitable betrayal.
Therefore, having any sort of human help in order to become some of the most powerful player creatures in the game makes absolutely no sense.
Why waste money on testing dinosaurs and not other animals? "An extinct animal brought back to life has no rights. It exists because we made it. We patented it. We own it." -Peter Ludlow
Because these ain't real dinosaurs. That and if you read up on the lore pinned to the channel, you'll find that there be bigger tests going on than just dinosaurs.
ooo i didnt even see that thank you
Also
When we did weaponize humans
Shit went ultra wrong
Like Echidna breaking out and presumably the Colussus as well
Apparently the only things that didn't go ultra AWOL to the point of never being attempted again were the Reapers.
So, can we agree that Tartarus is basically containment/transport for the monsters?
I haven't been on in a while. Is there somewhere I can go to catch up?
Pinned messages
Taterfi has a nice website with some stuff
If you have time, I would suggest watching the archived videos
Ok thanks
Anyway, if the colossus is active in Tartarus, is it just chillin'?
Maby he escaped too?
What's everyone's thoughts on what tisso is gonna be? I think combining said Dino with the Thantor from Avatar wouldn't be a cool interpretation but it'd be similar to Neuro in ways, what do you guys think?
Well supposedly the whole ideation of Tisso creatures might have been changed. So. No leads on what it could be anymore, if that’s true.
It cooould, but you’d kind of need to think of a reason as to why it’d have traits like that or what function they’d serve.
Im just hoping tisso stays the sort of perfect hunter type of strain, hypo seems to be about being big and buff, neuro is seemingly more about outsmarting others/fucking over humanity in general, hopefully tisso is still about being small and agile and being amazing at hunting things down
I wonder if the strains or one of the strains have to do with parasites
Just a random thought
Well imagine one of the traits is over-enlarged forearms for quadrupedal movement, like a feline almost; this would serve the purpose of distributing weight more evenly and thus allowing for more stealthy movement in addition to having a lower profile whilst increasing speed. @cosmic python
Makes me think of tap’s Giga. Which I enjoy.
oof
Well why not, it’s something I’ve played with a few times
See no problem either. In fact, the hyper spino already walks on four legs when crouching.
For a supreme hunter, that would be an optimum stance. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that, even if it's just concept art
@tacit finch give me one reason why not and explain how you'd design the tisso strain to be unique and different in playing style to the other strains
Think we should move this to off-topic, not directly related to isle lore
Think you're mistaking this for #401464048610312195 where actual knowledge is required, to theorise is to have a lack of knowledge on a certain aspect and therefore would call upon a degree of creativity
But what do I know
You didn't answer my question either so you're #401470471750811669 👋🏼
🤔
@shy basin feelsbadman
For some reason I’m coming up with a fan backstory for nuero spino.
👀
don't hate Don
don has all rights to hate this
More than the beginning really
The subtisso is a modded creature and doesn't relate to official Isle lore. As the description states, keep offtopic discussion out of the channel. Cleaning up
anths subtisso stuff isn't really related to official lore
Wait @sharp frigate there is a mod with a sub tisso?
Not yet but that's #401466138208370689
No idea if this might be Isle lore Related or not But switched over to dev branch and Saw the new menu screen possible Morse code on the bottom.
And a new little switch in the top left.
intriguing
Designer virus.
You mean the yellow dots on the bottom left?
I tried decoding that
And a lot of different combinations which I thought it was didn't come up with anything except one that said Hi
And by combinations I mean I wasn't sure if it was a dot or a line etc. So I tried combinations that make sense in terms of how it actually looked
designer's mind: things look better with blinky lights, let's put some on here.
player's mind: OMG lights must be some secret code guise!
Considering that there is a possibility people will do it anyway
Especially since people just want to get into the lore and there are already hidden things in other places
The blinky lights are actually a new strain which is robodino
^Kicked. Please read the channel description next time and refrain from shitposting.
I 'member that from the old PC forums
lol
Gotta love a good Sauron Savage Land plot
I don't know if I'm late to the party but in the movies file on the isle there is a new movie called flat line.
It just shows a heartbeat flatlining.
@magic elbow it's for the death screens in game
Oh ok
Hey, with this new UI, has anyone made any guesses as to what this sign says? It's in the top left corner of the menu screen.
Yeah, I remember it saying that somewhere else as well, just can't remember.
What even is the magna strain??
Yes!
@scenic scarab Its been described as “the perfect specimen” like a hypo with a little less power, but without the drawback of extreme hunger.
I don't recall hearing anything like that.
Me either
Something to note:
Project Allfather (Magnatyrannus) was the first attempt at creating the perfect organism
Apparently the project failed at first,and was resumed (by AE) once allfather was replicated.
Sauron's got the right idea XD
I'm P'sure Matriarch is the real perfect organism, consider how it's supposedly crazy adaptable
Dont know if matriarch is actually in the game or just fan art
It's a possibility,yes.
But we don't know what entitles or characterizes as "Perfect organism" for AE.
Matriarch was mentioned once in one of the loading screens
AE-IRT-010
Incident report transcript 32 part 2.
"...leading up to the compound itself.Upon reaching the structure,speciemen (blank space) began pacing.We expected the same type of rage one would expect from any aggressive animal,but it was subdued,focused,and calculated.She was the matriarch,and no one was taking her offspring.Not here.Not now.Not ever"
All things currently playable are also part of an ongoing attempt at creating the perfect organism. Or something.
This is the loading screen @grizzled dune ?
Yee.
So Matriarch is cannon?
Ye
Probably will at some point, or at least a replication/child of it
What even is the matriarch?
Not much info on the big fella.
I think the original idea was that i'd be a very difficult creature to play as you grow from the size of a compy to larger than a pue
i belive the isle is like a dome to were the dinosaurs dont have the chance of escape but there made for a miltary purpouse and the humans are trying to find a cave to an hidden bunker holding gold and the last surviors of a recruit team to estract dinosaurs off the island
Has anyone seen this before? Its from the AE-001 video.
ignore my deleted message
Does anyone know what the two hidden things are in the menu? It was hinted at in the patch notes
probably morse code
Not sure if it was there before,but there's a now a timer on the left corner,below the island logo.
Jamestown,Saint Helena (Africa) and Tórshavn,Faroe Islands (Europe) are two isolated islands located on the timezone that reflects the number on the timer
Question everyone I am new here but what are thoughts on the 1 9 9 5, what do you think it means because i do have a few guesses or if you sovled it already sorry for bothering
It's not solved yet.
Some think it's a year,location,code,etc.
But nothing is confirmed to be right or accurate.
My guess is 1995 as in the year
It's after 2014
It could make sense, since it was mentioned as "Type-M"
Type M could be referring to Magnas.
^
Well, the matriarch was mentioned, but as what?
Matriarch is her own dealy
Though I'm just gonna guess her title will pass on to her kids and her replicants. If she has replicants.
That why I say that the matriarch could be a possible strain
I even saw a fanart of a "matriarch Raptor" although is fanart so idk
For now, matriarch is her own deal
Type - M Is Manga most likely, we won't know until we are sure.
Type -H, Type - N are mostly Like Hypo and Neuro too.
Type-H is obviously hypo...higher bone density, massive muscle growth
Reminder not to troll in this channel.
i just hope all strains are playable, with that this game is going to be even more lit!
They will be.


