@slim meadow either set up a dedicated server if you have a decently beefy computer or get one from pingperfect. it's relatively cheap, my friend who has 25 slots on her server pays around 13 dollars each month for it i think
#server-hosting
wind ermine
forest raven
Thought I'd ask for some opinions here from owners, staff and maybe devs if they wanna weigh in, what's the general consensus on the protocol to follow concerning any of your players being harassed innapropriately via VC/ing-game/DMs? Besides an obvious ban should staff be pursuing legal actions especially if minors are involved? It should be alright to spread the perpetrator's name across other servers as long as there is solid proof right? Curious on how other places handle it.
violet marsh
In my opinion a ban should work unless they persisted to harrass the user. I guess that more context would make the situation clearer but i can understand the non-disclosure. I would go through with a ban, and if the harrassment continues then it should be taken further, even to legal actions if its really required
regal latch
@forest raven if this is about what I think it is, you should be in contact with discord directly.
I also would not go about distributing their name publicly due to legal reasons.
if you find that username in another discord, you should DM an admin or the owner of that discord channel and inform them privately
forest raven
Someone had sent out a ticket to the trust and safety team, as for bringing their name out it would only be on our server since they had tried to reach out to few of our members inviting them to a private Discord server and we'd want our players aware to them and to avoid at all costs. Owners and staff of other servers we know they reside in have been notified privately.
regal latch
Then it sounds like you are following appropriate measures to resolve the issue
forest raven
I want to make sure we're doing enough or not overdoing it, no one really prepares you for these types of situations and hoping others who face these issues can take advice from this topic at the moment as well.
narrow wolf
it says rcon requires battle eye which is legacy, so does that mean that rcon currently doesnt work?
violet marsh
RCON does not work as Battleeye was removed, yes. However, you should have all the available commands that you need via in-game commands
ripe fiber
is there any support for LAN dedicated servers at the moment? I'm trying to get into my server that I set up locally on a separate VM and test it out before opening it up to the public
And as another question, I see a lot of conflicting things about what ports need to be forwarded for the server to work... If there is a single server running, only a port and queryport are needed correct? Are there any "steam" specific ports that need to be forwarded as well?
@regal latch
regal latch
No, just typically 7777 and 7778. One for the game and one for query. I think also 15600? I need to check
ripe fiber
why would 15600 be needed? the other ports I saw commonly were 27015-27016..
ripe fiber
which start script? sorry I just joined the discord lol
regal latch
Oh, what guide are you using?
ripe fiber
I had been doing trial by fire and it's been driving me mad lol
regal latch
Pinned messages here has a fantastic guide for server setup
regal latch
Can't do LAN.
ripe fiber
bummer
ripe fiber
ok I'll check out the pinned, how did that not show up through google searches???????????
I've been at this since Monday..
ripe fiber
so I have everything set up
can you just give me the example of the start script you run? I searched through the post history on this and saw you don't edit any .ini's except Game
and you also said not to put the port callouts in the .ini either
regal latch
No, they go in the start script
A fine example is in the Steam Forums post
Also inlcudes loggin
logging
ripe fiber
ok I see
so you mentioned removing the multihome portion, where does the ip get established?
regal latch
@crude thorn off
cls
echo saving server from crashes
echo Shutdown server by closing this script, then pressing Ctrl + C on the isle console
title The Isle server - My Amazing Server
:TheIsleServer
echo (%time%) Server Started
start C:\TheIsleServer\TheIsleServer.exe /Game/TheIsle/Maps/Landscape3/Isle_V3?Port=7777?QueryPort=7777?MaxPlayers=100?game=Survival -log
quit
no need to establish IP
ripe fiber
ok, also is it a typo that the port and queryport are the same?
regal latch
Yes
ripe fiber
any downsides to those ports? I saw someone mention other programs use them but that doesn't make snese to me
regal latch
No, no downsides I found
ripe fiber
ok that's what I figured
regal latch
I have zero issues
ripe fiber
I already set up my firewall rules and NAT for those ports so I dont' want to change them lol
regal latch
There ya go!
ripe fiber
so theoretically if I copy this guide exactly and maybe throw a few extra game.ini lines in like server password and wahtnot, it should work?
and remove that multihome line of course
ripe fiber
ok cool, I'll go ahead and try this out. Hopefully it works! I appreciate the help man, thanks!
regal latch
YW!
crude thorn
why was I pinged?
ripe fiber
so the server still isnt' showing up in the server browser... I can confirm that the server is running with no errors. I set the port=7777 and queryport=27015 and have forwarded ports 7777-7778 and 27015-27016 (TCP/UDP) to the server machine. Anyone know why it isn't working? I've tried start.bat with and without the MultiHome line. I can see that in windows the server is listening on ports 7778 and 27015. This is driving me insane... Anyone help, please!
I've also tried turning off the windows firewall just to rule out any issues with regards to that...still not showing up
regal latch
If it's a VM, that's probably your issue @ripe fiber
little trench
Alright. Defaults ports without defining them are, Game: 7777 Query: 7778 SteamPort: 27015
Reason why the default port may not sometimes work is when you want to the the game on the same windows instance. Hence change ports, that's all that it is.
MultiHome once upon a time worked, doesn't seem to do anything other then make the server not work right, make sure that's not set.
Make sure a map is actually defined when starting the server. An incorrect path also seems to render the invisable
If you have steam running on the VM, you may find the server using port up to something like 27060 as previously experienced.
Clearly you've checked the firewall by turning it off for a short time, and have allowed the ports already.
Ports also need to be mirrored in the modem to your computer(VM) IP, to allow connections coming in. Generally you can set a non-changing or static IP in the modem. Some require manual setup via windows.
There could be another level of firewall on the modem it self causing issues, and 'Packet Filtering' is something you may see in the modem that will cause grief.
regal latch
@viral sorrel English only please. Pinned post here has a How-To for server setup
@viral sorrel Pinned message here
viral sorrel
How to write messages on top of all players?
regal latch
./announce
ripe fiber
@little trench I don't think it's a port issue as I've gone into windows and looked at what ports the isle server is listening on and the range of ports it needs are open. Could you tell me about the port mirroring? I'm not familiar with that
I could look into packet filtering but I doubt that is it
little trench
Just saying need the same ports opened on both PC & modem
ripe fiber
oh my god I'm such an idiot.....................................................
I had my NAT rule setup incorrectly...
Had the destination as the VM IP and not the WAN IP...
little trench
Ah, at least you found something π
ripe fiber
@little trench how do you set people up to spawn in as non-survival dinos?
my friend keeps spawning in with a black screen when I try editting the json file
violet marsh
What exactly are you editing in the file? And what's the path to the file that you're editing?
Trying to adjust something that makes the .json have some sort of invalid field, it'll reset the player and respawn them as normal, they shouldn't end up with a black screen
regal latch
The same setup guide explains non survival dino injection
violet marsh
^ and what lethal said for the sandbox part
regal latch
Also
They need to be completely logged out of the server
Not on the char selection screen
violet marsh
^ proper procedure (from the char select screen) is: Spawn in as anything, wait for the logout timer to countdown, safelog out of the server, alter the .json, and then when they log in if nothing returned invalid then the changes should take affect
regal latch
Yup
ripe fiber
hmm I was having issues even doing it that way, but having them die and then me creating a file from scratch seems tow ork
viral sorrel
how to create a server please say everything completely
viral sorrel
help me proshuuuuuuuu!!!!!
steep crypt
I don't really know much about setting up a server, but first you need a host
I would recommend this one
you can of course choose other ones, but I have heard pingperfect is pretty good
viral sorrel
and how to make the server stay as long as you want?
wind ermine
how do you change a server's gamemode?
autumn pebble
<@&505047238674874368> I am stuck at bog
US 2
I safelogged but I can log back on anytime'
elfin plover
talk in us 2 for us 2-related issues pls
last birch
Did it's possible to change the day/night cycle duration like longer or shorter right?
unborn bloom
So i am having some issues. I have followed the steps to the above guide and have no issues up until the point where I need to execute my .bat file. When i click to open either normally or via administrator it says that server crashed due to not being able to find the .exe file. I have verified that it is correct and I have run an sf /scannow via cmd admin. It fixed corrupted files but I still cannot run the server. I am at a loss as what to do.
little trench
@unborn bloom send though a DM and will help you out as soon as I can a chance.
Show me the bat your are launching with, and location of the server files.
We'll sort it out, don't worry :)
unborn bloom
What line of code do i need to adjust for a sandbox deathmatch server so that bodies disappear?
cosmic zodiac
Quick question, got a server on Nitrado and the owner can spawn but no one else can and admin commands arent working, anyone got any solutions?
tribal radish
goood morning everyone
merry urchin
@unborn bloom ServerDeadBodyTime=1
Almost instance disappear!
tropic wasp
@merry urchin i assume a value of 0 means they stay forever until eaten?
violet marsh
@tropic wasp I believe so, yes.
naive onyx
That is correct
merry urchin
Totally not wrong guys π
And whoever dead body that stay longer than 20 mn. always cause an issue
strong gate
Is there no longer support for Linux dedicated server?
tacit sierra
Hello, does anyone know if it is possible to permanently set a growth for a dinosaur, and it wont age up?
For example, setting a rex to .6 and not allowing it to age any more
tacit sierra
Ah okay thank you
strong gate
Is there a way to make a server announcement without being on the server? I am wanting to setup an auto-restart bat script that restarts the server every 12 hours but gives an announcement before the restart.
little trench
No out of game admin at the moment
strong gate
Does that mean no RCON support?
dense pollen
Hi guys! What's the best server provider?
PingPerfect constantly crashing even after moving machines, upgrading CPU/RAM.
Etc.
Constant back and forth with support.
Pls @ me so I get notification
violet marsh
@strong gate nope, no sort of RCON. Was removed with Battleeye about a year and maybe a half or so ago. And as for you @dense pollen if you can find your logs and view them after it crashes, post them here and tag me and I can probably find out whats wrong. If not me then someone else would surely pop in and help
strong gate
Thanks for the help guys
I seem to be having AI spawning issue on my server, do I need to set bServerAIPlayerSpawns= to true?
violet marsh
@strong gate The AI settings don't do anything at the moment. They're for an old system that was removed a while back. At the moment, the numbers are just there. Right now the only thing I think people have really caught that causes AI spawn issues is too many players being connected at once. I think it's been suggested by the devs to keep the server cap at 100 or lower, as AI spawns tend to start freaking out after that number and the system that spawns them starts having trouble
prisma thicket
anyone know how to set up a server
im just trying to test bleed with a friend and i cant really do that on sandbox
when i host a server it dosnt show up in server names
violet marsh
@prisma thicket Really there's no easy way to just temporarily host a server. What were you trying to test exactly and I may be able to help?
prisma thicket
@violet marsh how much bleed a dilo does to a carno, maia. And how much bleed a utah does to a rex
violet marsh
Alright, why aren't you able to test this in sandbox necessarily? I'm an admin on a testing survival server so I can do all the commands and such to help you test there in the survival gamemode, but you should be able to test all of this on a sandbox server too
prisma thicket
i cant check bleed on a sandbox
violet marsh
Ah, gotcha
Alright, if you and your friend want to get onto the server Klub Kool, I'll pop in and admin you both growth and stuff.
prisma thicket
Yup we'll hop on right now, thanks
violet marsh
Alrighty, I'm on and waiting. I honestly don't remember if we have global chat on or not but at the very least it's a basic survival server environment
violet marsh
Aight
harsh musk
How come there is no official 200 survival server? Eu 2-3 is almost not used
dense pollen
Server performance drops drastically after 150 players.
inland monolith
how do i get ppl to join my server:(
void nova
@inland monolith advertise, stream, look through twitter hashtags, participate in events on other servers make friends.
uneven tide
Hello,
if I want to host the Isle as dedicated server, can it run on 'Windows Server' or is Windows 10 requiered?
next nimbus
Hello! So, we just started a server from Pingperfect.com and wanted to know how to set the game mode to sandbox. Its currently on Survival and we have tried multiple things to switch it over
torpid chasm
@next nimbus You do that through the command line, select the map you want and the game mode.
next nimbus
thanks
little trench
@uneven tide Windows server is fine π
hearty gate
Hey, I host from pingperfect and I'm wondering how to set people as dinosaurs?
wind ermine
@hearty gate file manager>player files>edit the json file on the line "CharacterClass": "EnterDinoCodeHere"
hearty gate
Thank you! :)
merry urchin
Do you know the Dino code for a pointy head Allo's previous old model?
Or we can no longer switch to it anymore?
naive onyx
All old models are no longer accessible
scenic ravine
So, im not sure if it has been integrated at all but if not: Is there a way to disable the /grow commands for admins. In my case its a chill server and people always ask for growths now that its a thing, not a problem now but it seems to take a lot of the fun chill servers had held. I donβt know, itβd be convenient to be able to disable certain commands.
white kite
I don't believe there is a way to disable certain commands for now @scenic ravine
vocal cipher
How do i host a server
naive onyx
- Thatβs not how, 2. This isnβt the place to advertise your server. You can do that on The Isles steam forums in the LFG section @cosmic zodiac
@vocal cipher Depends on how you wanna go about it, do you have a good PC, if so you could go the dedicated server option, free but setup is required or you can go through a server host and have it be easier but have to pay a certain amount.
cosmic zodiac
Oh ok
cosmic zodiac
How to inject dinos Iβm trying to test Alberto im a new admin on a new pingperfect server
wind ermine
@cosmic zodiac file manager>player files>edit the json file on the line "CharacterClass": "EnterDinoCodeHere"
cosmic zodiac
Is there a list of the Dino codes for non survivals
violet marsh
Yes there is it's in the guides somewhere hold on
cosmic zodiac
Ok thanks
pure estuary
dont know if i can ask for this here but how to get spino in game
violet marsh
@pure estuary you have to either play on a sandbox gamemode server and select it there or you have to find a survival server that sometimes injects sandbox dinos.
pure estuary
ok thanks
inland monolith
@void nova ok thank you, im sort of a noob to the isle, so i appreciate the help π
sharp garnet
I am the only one who has problems with setting up the MOTD? The Server runs well nothing appears on the screen when you connect
little trench
How are you setting the MOTD?
sharp garnet
ServerMOTD=Message ...doesnt work.
regal latch
Head on over to your TheIsleServer folder and head into TheIsle>Saved and create a text file in here called MOTD. If you leave this text file empty, no Message Of The Day will pop up when players log into the server, if you put text into it however, it will show up when players join
sharp garnet
So when the txt file is ready do i have to write the serverMOTD command anyway? or is the txt enough?..tomorrow ill test it and thanks for your help π
regal latch
Text file only. Ini file line doesn't work
wind ermine
i have the motd set by the config instead of the text editor
kinda late
but hope it helps
sharp garnet
the MOTD works now...thanks alot π
uneven tide
hello, how can I set the duration of the day?
sonic horizon
None of those settings currently work π it is all default.
weak arch
hey all im hosting some servers and id like to swap to my own dedicated setup we dont get a lot of people and i was wondering if a 2.5 cheap like 35-50$ processer could run a server?
i plan on upgrading but i dont get above 10 people anyways so if i could just buy ram for now that would be great if it would run fine.
white kite
@wild bay @modern nebula this discord is not the place to advertise your server, if you wish to do so, please do it on the steam forum in the LFG section.
modern nebula
@white kite k well its not mine and i saw someone else do it but thanks for eltting me know π
merry urchin
Hey are we allowed to do server promoting here?
proud plinth
a staff member literally said 2 posts above you that this is not the place to advertice servers. but you can do that in the steam forum https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/13/
red relic
Does anyone know how to setup a nitrado srevr because thats the provider I chose and i can't make anyone including my self an admin
sick solar
Do you have a commands.dat file on the website? @red relic
red relic
nope
little trench
Run your own dedicated server, buy a host like Zap Hosting or others to run your server.
sick solar
You would need dedicated server hosting like Grinny mentioned, Pingperfect, Zap-hosting, Nitrado. A google search would come up for plenty of server hosts, but pingperfect seems to be the most popular
@inner oxide
violet marsh
Ping perfect is pretty nice. Use them ourselves and they have plenty of tools that make running it pretty easy
merry urchin
Anyone know a good place to make ads for our server?
violet marsh
Scroll up a bit and use the lf for groups discussion thread. It's been posted
That's the only place you're allowed
Officially anywys
maiden basin
Does any form of whitelisting work server side currently?
Passwords do not appear to
violet marsh
Locking to a specific steam group used to, but there's no telling if that works still or not
tropic wasp
Hi all!
I'm looking at different server options regarding game.ini etc
Can you tell me if there are any options that A) allow you to increase or decrease the global dinosaur growth speed? or B) can you /grow a dino to a specific point in a stage? ie, 50% through Sub-Adult, etc? Thanks in advance
sick solar
No you cannot change the growth speed, and no you cannot /grow to a specfic point. All you can do are commands, and if you have database access you can change the players file to be whatever dino at any stage (baby, juvi, sub, adult) But you cannot make it be a specific growth %
@tropic wasp
tropic wasp
Thanks @sick solar . I assume that speeding up the server time rate also won't change those speeds?
sick solar
You couldn't even do that π
tropic wasp
Oh... oops, I thought that was an option in the game.ini when I looked at it
sick solar
It might be, there's a lot of options there but none of them will work since they're all disabled currently
tropic wasp
Ahhh. Fair enough
Well I guess I will stop this timed growth test I was in the middle of, then. π
sick solar
That's why it's so hard for newer servers to get population because there's nothing to differentiate one server to another because everything is the same π
velvet crypt
Hey I'm having a hard time finding my friends server, I've put about every single combination of words for its name in the server search bar but it keeps coming up blank
inner oxide
i agree whit overpowered and some servers rules are just so bad π
sick solar
@velvet crypt Does your friend have the server hosted on a dedicated server, or did he hit the "host" button?
merry urchin
Does anyone know why a dedicated server rented from nitrado is not showing up for someone from the same country where the server is located? Thanks for the help.
I invited him and he could join the server but only with a invite... any ideas?
velvet crypt
Yeah my friend has a dedicated server they pay for. Apparently they don't even have the option to invite me to play. They can invite me to watch and they can join my session even though I'm not in a server. This is getting frustrating because this has been a problem for me in the past
modern nebula
@velvet crypt I dont think you can inv friends on steam to play the isle.....you have to join the server manually i beleive :3
velvet crypt
Dang, that brings me back to the problem of not being able to find the server even if I put the full name in the search bar
high night
so for a survival server, how do you make it so the staff "the admins" of the server get access to non survival dinos?
violet marsh
@velvet crypt Have you tried the server not found solution?
sick solar
Iβve already tagged him inside of the troubleshooting tab to see more info
velvet crypt
no, not aware of that one
lofty crest
on the servers that you can host for a few people from the home screen how do i make someone admin?
eternal horizon
Been getting this error on our server for a couple months now. Heard from other server owners that more frequent wipes can help alleviate this. Pingperfect claims it is an error within the game files so nothing they can do. Anyone know any fixes? 
merry urchin
hello, i wanted to do a find the pue on my survival server. when i changed my dinos code in the databse to "Puerta" i do become the pue but i can not move. is there something else i need to do? thanks
white kite
@merry urchin you most likely left the "Resting" line as "true", which makes the game think you're laying down. Either change it to "false" or press H once, and then try moving
plush quiver
white kite
if you didn't already, you first need to buy the game on Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/376210/The_Isle/
After that you go into your steam game library, you download and install the game. Once the installation is done just launch the game and join a server @plush quiver 
merry urchin
I'm currently working on the " Dedicated Server" and i'm stuck on step 4 on the saved folder section (I can't see the saved files)
white kite
most likely the guide pinned
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1502947359
prob just a hidden files perhaps
little trench
Start server once, shutdown it down..
This generates the saved folder and the config files to edit π
@merry urchin
civic cliff
we're having the exact same issue as Psychoetwinz up there, the exact same lines in the log too, happened 3-4 times over the last two days now, anyone have any idea what to do to resolve it?
quick perch
using ```start /wait C:\islemortis1\TheIsleServer.exe /Game/TheIsle/Maps/Landscape3/Isle_V3?Port=7777?QueryPort=7777?MaxPlayers=200?Game=Survival -log
If that all your are using for a bat file, might as well just use a shortcut to the server.
tropic wasp
Hey all. Could you please help me with the correct line syntax for banning a UID? Is it in the game.ini -
BannedUsers=UniqueID="7656119xxxxxx" ? Thanks
or without the " quotes?
naive onyx
Banned players are no longer in the game.ini itβs in its own folder under the name bans
visual cosmos
Are there any tools that would make server admins lives better?
tropic wasp
Thanks for that @naive onyx . Much appreciated
naive onyx
Not a problem ππ»
sick solar
@visual cosmos Last I heard, someone was working on making some tools but haven't heard anything since
visual cosmos
@sick solar I have been working on some. One that is working now allows for admins to edit their players json files more easily from remote. I am also going to be working on a server minimap and a player management web platform
sick solar
Ah then you're the person I heard about then lol
visual cosmos
@sick solar I will be releasing the one tool tonight
sick solar
I remember the mention of the json file editing tool
sick solar
Does it still require the person to have access to the DB though
visual cosmos
it does require FTP access, but thats it. Only needs the FTP root to be set to the players folder
therefore limiting access to anything else
sick solar
gotcha
visual cosmos
So increases the security a ton
right now you can use a drop down to select a dino, set broken legs, male/female, and resting state. By release tonight it will have a growth slider and possibly a couple other features.
I am down for any input on it!
I will be posting it tonight at http://www.patreon.com/gwa2100 . There is no requirement to donate or anything to download it. Just hope you guys find a good use for it.
naive onyx
Ah thatβs cool
white kite
it looks very cool indeed
visual cosmos
@white kite Thank you, if you have any ideas hit me up
visual cosmos
So the new release of the tool is out v0.1.4. Check out my patreon for it, it is free to download, not behind any donation requirement. Tell me what you think or if you need any help! @white kite @naive onyx @sick solar
white kite
do you need a patreon account to see the download link? @visual cosmos
nvm I had not scrolled down enough, I shall test it this upcoming weekend for sure
a little guide on the how to's could be a good idea for the less tech savy of us too 
sick solar
Ha, thatβs what I mentioned too. Like a quick video guide and upload it to YouTube to get more hits on it
visual cosmos
@sick solar @white kite definitely. I plan to throw a simple how to PDF together and a small video. Thanks for checking it out too btw
strange rose
Looking good, @visual cosmos !
visual cosmos
@Pathos Thank you, have you tried it out yet?
white goblet
Is that multihome not working anymore?
white kite
family sharing was removed from the game. @white goblet
white goblet
no, not family sharing, multihome parameter for game server
white kite
in your bat file, the MultiHome= line is correctly set to your public ip?
and my bad I had confused the two 
white goblet
np: its not working when your have 2+ ips in your machine
lucid lion
Is it necessary to open and forward any other ports or protocols besides UDP 7777 and 7778 for start dedicated server over NAT?
little trench
27015 as well
uneven tide
does anyone have a clue, why <a href="steam://connect/ip:queryPort">Link</a> does not work? It works, but I host multiple servers on the same machine with differnet query ports.
merry urchin
no closing bracket on <a>
gritty sage
can anyone help me? i made all the steps and when i start my cmd it finish with those lines:
"[2019.07.07-17.41.54:883][106]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Server setting ,SECURE_b:true overflows Steam SetGameTags call
[2019.07.07-17.41.54:883][106]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Server setting ,Version_s:0.1.53.3 overflows Steam SetGameTags call
[2019.07.07-17.41.54:885][106]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Server setting ,GameMode_s:Survival overflows Steam SetGameTags call
[2019.07.07-17.41.55:146][113]LogGameMode: Display: Match State Changed from WaitingToStart to InProgress
[2019.07.07-17.41.55:147][113]LogGameState: Match State Changed from WaitingToStart to InProgress"
my server isnt showing in the servers list, either on steam servers list. any help?
i just want to know if im missing something or if its a port forwarding issue. of course if u can solve, i accept and appreciate the help.
gritty sage
so i did it, i puted my server online but i cant connect or see it in the server list
my friends can connect and see it but im not, can someone help me?
violet marsh
Last time I checked its because of how steam handles connections. The way youre doing it now, you wont be able to get on the steam network while the server is running. You'll need to use SteamCMD to run the server under an "anonymous" account in order to run it and play on it or something like that
There's guides for the SteamCMD all over tge place but for isle specifically use the guide on how to host a server and it should be in one of the tabs there
gritty sage
so everytime i start the server i have to login as anonymous before?
since its a dedicated and for now, it will be not 24 hours server
not be
violet marsh
If using steamCMD yeah. Trying to log on with your own account prevents you from being able to connect to steam anywhere but there
gritty sage
ok, ill try it man, appreciate ur time π
little trench
Above is a little inaccurate.
As long as you are starting the server with non-default ports you will be able to connect to your own server. Port=7777 QueryPort=7778 are the defaults, I can see you have changed the values. --> Not the problem
Using "MultiHome=" in your start can cause issues with finding the server, suggest try removing it and checking if you can see the server and friends can still see the server.
Some modem/routers will have have extra levels of security that include it's own firewall and 'packet filtering'
packet filtering was the issue last time I've assisted someone with the same problem, (Friends can play but you can't on your own server)
@gritty sage
gritty sage
ill try it, thanks! btw i changed the ports to 7778 and 27016 and the server showed for me on steam lan list, but i still cannot access it
warm heron
Anyone here know how to inject a dino into the server? (we're hosting an event this coming weekend and the reward is a dino that's not origianlly in Survival) Please DM me if you know how to do this. I found a tutorial, but it doesn't seem to work. Thank you in advance!
tropic wasp
I know how Scott. Dm me if you need.
Talking about injecting dinos... I have a question specifically about t
Oops.
About the Alberto
It seems that when I spawn even a small % growth Alberto into my server, it has a set bite force that does not vary with its growth rate. Is this some issue with the Alberto itself? Thanks
@warm heron
gaunt cove
I have recently made a Server, On the Dv Test Level map, 20 slots etc. But now i seem to be Having a Problem, The loading Stops at 10% Whereas Ive never had Problems with DV test Levels and the Loading always starts at 28% It seems to Only be My server which Is duelly Frustrating. Could this be something to do with the Region its set in? I just thought id ask before I asked The website Im using to Run the server.
sly drift
yo yellow name question
when you use the bring command can you use quotes for named with spaces in them?
tropic wasp
You know you can use only partial names right Clink?
warm heron
@sly drift you use it like
/bring Nokternl
Than hit enter.
Anyone know about how to inject dinos into a server? I'm still unable to do this.
sly drift
OK. I had this person who was asking about changing names to bring people to them and we were unsure if we could use quotes like /bring "<name>" to see if it would work with names with spaces in it.
white kite
@warm heron https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1502947359
See step 5!
iirc quotes work but it gets wonky sometime @sly drift
warm heron
@white kite If I wanted to add a Shant or a spino to the Survival mode. How do I do that? Same way? I guess there's a part that says this...
"UnlockedCharacters": "RexSubS;RexAdultS;",
for Survival mode. If I want to add a Spino, for example,. I know that at the top part it says...
"CharacterClass": "RexAdultS"
but for that unlocked part... what do you do there? Would it be as listed below....
"UnlockedCharacters": "SpinoSubS;SpinoAdultS;",
?
sly drift
OK I'll let the person know and I'll mess with it in a private server
white kite
only the characterclass has to be changed @warm heron, the "unlocked" line doesn't really matter
warm heron
Okay.
so I change whatever I want in the character class. The skin pallete needs to be removed if not a survival dino. and that's it?
white kite
doesn't even have to bother with skin palette and yeah, change character class (along with health/food/water) and you good to go
warm heron
health, food, water should be increased due to the issue of it dying upon creation?
white kite
well let's say you are a utah with a max food of value of 200 (imaginary value i dont remember them all) and you change to a rex with a 2000 max value, if you don't change your food you'll be spawning almost starving already
same for health and water
warm heron
aah ok i see.
tropic wasp
Just to reask my question without any extra text...
It seems that when I spawn even a small % growth Alberto into my server, it has a set bite force that does not vary with its growth rate. Is this some issue with the Alberto itself? Thanks
warm heron
@tropic wasp that I don't know. but I'll try to look it up too
tropic wasp
It's more an admin thing I think. Looks like it's hard coded
gaunt cove
I didnt get an answer eep
tropic wasp
I'm not sure @gaunt cove .I'd be asking the hosting service
wind ermine
@tropic wasp sandbox dinos are low priority, i dont think the devs set it so sandbox dino stats scale with it's growth
tropic wasp
Fair enough, seems that it might be the only one, though not sure yet π
Just been fooling
gleaming sleet
albert doesn't grow properly afaik, you need to manually grow it or something
naive onyx
@warm heron Try checking growth as well as some sandbox dinos are iffy about having growth any lower than 1.0
warm heron
10-4 @naive onyx
white kite
cleaned the less english friendly interaction 
tropic wasp
Another question, how do you center text in the motd?
violet marsh
As far as Im aware, there isnt a way. The box autowraps the text and I dont think it keeps any sort of formatting. Youd have to just center it with tabs as far as I'm aware unless someone else has found a method
tawdry imp
Is there a way to add passwords to servers ?
violet marsh
There was but I dont think that it works to prevent people from being able to join the server anymore.
white kite
ye it doesn't work atm
tropic wasp
Thanks Auxiar π
naive onyx
Ai only spawn when a carnivore is below around 50% hunger
tropic wasp
Quick way to test is make a nest and dump food in it. It should start Ai spawn around you :-)
Does anyone have suggestions for getting the word out for your server, to attract players?
opaque iris
π€
frozen heron
@tropic wasp there is a LFG section on the steam discussion for the isle that you could advertise on. There's also a Reddit post somewhere for recommending unofficial servers.
midnight drum
OK I did all when ''How to'' said and when I double click on ''Server_Start.bat'' it said they don't found TheIsleServer.exe. Why?
tropic wasp
Thanks Cryptid-Horror :-)
livid flint
How do we um find a server? There doesn't seem to be any showing?
stable jasper
@livid flint make sure your "hide empty server" filter is turned off
If not try to shorten your search for the server via. Example: The Isles Awesome Server. Type Awesome and it should still show it.
livid flint
oh we need to use the search function to find servers?
Ah searching did work for me, thank you π»
rapid iron
Is this information relevant?
agile chasm
so im thinking about renting/buying a dedicated box to host a server on, whats the best option for setting it up, steamcmd or a game panel like the pterodactyl game panel and what equipment should i look for mainly?
i have an idea just wondering if my idea is close to decent equipment wise
wind ermine
@rapid iron yeah
little trench
Use a game panel if you have the time to set it up and if have more then just yourself that wants access to server files.
Hardware wise, more ram better, windows server with 16gb+ is a good place to start if expecting busy server. Strong single core performance for CPU, seen a lot use i7 7700k, think it was mention that it was related to server crash where other on e3's had less issues O.o
@agile chasm
agile chasm
Awesome one I'm looking at is a 64 gig mem and 500gig nvme drive and i think it had a i7
wicked crater
I want to setup a dedicated server for The Isle. Anyone know what kind of RAM I would need for 50 people? 100? 150? I have nothing to go on for estimating what I'd need.
prisma harbor
wicked crater
I actually plan on using a KVM VPS for this. (been with this provider for years, they've been around since the 90's) I DMed my guy there and he wants me to email him with the specs I need.
white kite
"8gb of ram, atleast an E3-1230v6, if you want 100 players" that's what looter once said, I guess you can go slightly lower if you are not to be hosting 100
shrewd basin
So I looked back at past messages and I don't see the answer to what I'm looking for. Can someone give me a basic specs or needs list for running a 200 person v3 server like butter!?
wicked crater
Thanks El Paco.
wicked crater
I wish it were easier to find out this sort of information. So few guides for this stuff. I don't know if I need a Windows server or if I can do this with CentOS.
white kite
only works on windows i believe
little trench
Linux support was removed while back sadly π¦
remote bay
How is it possible to have more than 1 admin on your own server? Sorry if the question was not supposed to be asked here. No need to answer if its too much to explain too
proud plinth
you only need to add a additional line in the game.ini with the steam id which you want to be an admin:
for example
ServerAdmins=9819191819819191516
ServerAdmins=4919819165156116516
ServerAdmins=19733541926586871
server needs to restart after that so the changes take effect
tropic wasp
Has anyone experienced server crashes via some sort of login based spam?
Kinda felt like ddos
pure goblet
What setting do i need to change on PingPerfect to make bodies not instantly despawn?
frozen heron
@pure goblet there's a section called 'How long should corpses stay for' with an input box, you can change the number there. They give you a recommended time you shouldn't go over.
violet marsh
If you want them to last their usual time keeping it at the default (which I think is 0) makes them last as long as they normally would
visual cosmos
Does RCON work for the ISle servers anymore?
white kite
@visual cosmos Not anymore sadly
@icy fossil can't advertise your server in this discord.
wicked crater
Are there any benefits to doing scheduled server restarts other than bodies/gore/nests being removed?
little trench
Not sure what isle is like, been a while. While you might be able to remove everything, the Server memory usage may not go down with it. Mostly to do with the memory usage, hence performance of server.
Server never restarts you could see a server using 12GB of ram where a daily restart might top off at 6GB, things are just generally smoother.
Problem being it interferes with current players on the server :\
shrewd basin
Ok asking one last time. Wanting to host a server and dont want to rent it. So my question is..... #1 what would be the specs recommendation for buliding a server for 200ppl. #2 Is The Isle ram, process ,speed or core count dependent
lost adder
i dont think the current engine can withstand 200 people on at once yet
merry urchin
@shrewd basin u will neeeeed veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery strong pc for that 100% u cant even afford that π
shrewd basin
@merry urchin I understand that and wouldn't be asking the question if I didn't think I could afford it. I like the isle , I'm tired of playing it on servers that lag and just barely run it I just need some basic info. It seems the devs haven haven't released a host server recommendations.
icy fossil
Can someone with experience with creating a server Dm me?
tropic wasp
@icy fossil did you get the help you were after?
tropic wasp
^ Sorted. Just needed to restart the server
hollow moon
friend is hosting a server through nitrado and added me in as a 'guest user' with all perms since we're co-owners, but I can't see the server when logged into my Nitrado acc?
hollow moon
one of the mods can see the server but not us co-owners with all boxes checked lol
little trench
Not to sure what nitrado 's setup is like. Other web panels the same happen when you don't actually mark the tick box for the service itself, even though you mark every box underneath reboot/update/config, etc..
hollow moon
hmm, they've checked and nothing that negates access is enabled.
hollow moon
still nothing this morning, has been like 16 hours or so. lol
tropic wasp
Again I seem to have had a random crash. Not sure if ddos or game connection bug, but it's from the same steam id (removed), mass spam before server crashes. Can anyone enlighten me?
LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: AUTH: Was not able to kick player 7656119xxxxxx Valid world: 1.
There are no different lines, just this one, over and over. Thanks in advance
white goblet
same here
hollow moon
Still nothing, unable to access the panel. One of our mods with more limited perms can access it but none of the other co-owners can with full perms. Is Nitrado not a good host? lol
tropic wasp
Ezbd who were you agreeing with?
merry urchin
π
upper talon
hi, this parameter work ? bServerAllowTurnInPlace=true
I start the server and it erases it
wind ermine
you dont need to have it in the config for alt turn to be on
you only need to put it in when you're setting it to false/turning it off
little trench
To add on top ^
Any default values you enter into the config are removed when the server starts. Hence why it is removing
azure depot
How to lift up the spawn rate for big Dinos? so when i lift it up than will spawn just 3 or 4 dinos... just small bodys π¦
shrewd basin
@azure depot ServerAIRate=1 change this in your server script to a higher number for more ai span per player
naive onyx
The AI option actually doesn't have any effect currently. It's been stated many a time before
azure depot
@naive onyx okay thanks π
merry urchin
Can you promote your server here?
naive onyx
Not in here, in the steam forums: https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/13/
deft ocean
How can u introduce as an admin non survival dinos?
deft ocean
how can i see player names in spectator mode as admin
uneven citrus
Press canc
azure depot
How to aktivate MOTD on my own server?
naive onyx
@deft ocean To do this if youβre owner of the server you need to edit the playerβs file in order to change their dinosaur making sure theyβre not logged in during the changes. In regards to seeing player named in spec, just press the delete key, also works outside of spec mode.
@azure depot Make sure the βMOTD.txtβ is in the Saved folder and nowhere else.
radiant gale
well I've followed the guide and my server starts but cannot be found in the server browser, anyone have any tips to get it working?
tropic wasp
Are you forwarding the required ports so connections from the internet can see your server?
halcyon jacinth
Hello, I can not find how to make a server with the tool Steam The isle dedicated server thank you
merry urchin
how do I make a server and dose it cost money if so how mutch for 150 slots and money in pounds
+++++++++
teal forge
Hello, dev team have a mail adress ? I tant to send you a mail. Thank in advance
teal forge
Iβm hosting a dedicated server on my LAN, i see the server on steam server listΒ :
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But, if iβm clicking on « connectΒ Β», the game launch, but nothing more. No connection, and if i search on the game client the server list, my own server does no appear.
Can you tell me if another configuration is necessary on my router (static route for example).
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I specify that all other players who connect from the outside do not encounter this connection problem and everything is OK.
Β
Thank you in advanceΒ !
Β
Best regards
The server is not on the same machine. I'm hosting on a 8core xeon and 64gb of Ram Windows 2016 server
radiant gale
yes, all the ports are forwarded
teal forge
Yes, but canadien you list the port for verifying
teal forge
Can, not canadien xD
I have forwarding 1 port for the game, wich other ports is necessary to nat ?
tropic wasp
There's quite a few. They are covered in the setup guide linked above
teal forge
Ok i follower this guide. But. I don't connect my local server. But external users can...π€ π€ π€
halcyon jacinth
What's the dedicated server ID for steamcmd, because I can not find it on their website
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Hello, I'm french but I translate with google translation, What's the dedicated server ID for steamcmd, because I can not find it on their website
merry urchin
412680
halcyon jacinth
this number does not work in steamcmd
j'Γ©cris cette commande "app_update 412680" et ca me dit "ERROR! Failed to install app '412680' (No subscription)"
radiant gale
I'm using ports 8889 and 28017, I have 8888-8890 and 28016-28018 forwarded just to be sure
radiant gale
any other suggestions?
shrewd basin
you forwarded the ports but did you mirror them so they work in and out
you forwarded the ports but did you mirror them so they work in and out?
radiant gale
both my router and windows firewall have them open, usually there is no need to open outgoing ports
shrewd basin
@radiant gale Query Port 45238
Rcon Port 26000
SQL port Port 3306......no issues
some isp also lock ports for their own use the port might show that you can use it but your isp might have it locked on their end for their use
radiant gale
hmmm, ok, I think I have those available, I run ark, atlas and outlaws of the wild west servers, so I have quite a few port mappings
shrewd basin
this game seems to be really picky not sure why
shrewd basin
that just makes it simple
radiant gale
I tried a few port combos, I didn't really plan on using rcon either just a small server for a friend
autumn elm
does the player json files need the line breaks in them or can you write them on a single line?
wind ermine
@autumn elm can you explain more? are you trying to edit how the lines are formatted?
autumn elm
can i upload a file as a example?
i am trying to use a different format for the json files
Never mind i think i answered my own question
little trench
Pretty sure Whitespace does not matter. Just much neater and user friendly to have structure to your coding/save data!
visual coral
anyone knows how can i run my server in sandbox mode?
gaunt creek
Hello in v3 the IA keep spaming under map or get invisible (let no corp and dont die so they dont pop out) we keep trying toobreebot the seever evry 6h but it getting on the nervs of our player.. Can we do something about it?
merry urchin
@gaunt creek lower the server slots
sly drift
I set a dedicated server up and everyone else can see and connect to the server and I can't? 
I'm trying to play on the same computer the server is being hosted from. Thoughts/Solutions? 
@ me if you have an answer. Thanks in advance 
pliant horizon
@sly drift what i do is just go to steam>View (in top left)>Servers>Internet (top left)>Change filters (bottom left)>Find The Isle in "game" (bottom leftish)>make sure (Oceanic) Isla Thronnos is at the top>Search a map in the bottom left! lmk if this helped or if you need more help
sly drift
@pliant horizon Yea that's for filtering to find just The Isle servers, yea, but my own server won't show up.
sly drift
When it's online everyone can see it and join it but I can't
pliant horizon
;-;
frail cliff
@last thorn @merry urchin how can i join a friend thet hosts a server through the game?
white kite
@sly drift how did you set up your server?
frosty wharf
I'd like to host a server from time to time to test out stuff and fights with a few friends, i don't plan to leave the server up when i'm not here or when we don't need it, that said, for this usage do i still need a static ip?
gaunt creek
@merry urchin have we other solution since we have a full server every day
merry urchin
@gaunt creek not atm unfortunately, lower the slots and set up another server is the best you can do right now
gaunt creek
@white kite 150
@merry urchin and dam if we change the machin migth it change?
sly drift
@white kite Followed a guide on Steam guides. Used SteamCMD to install the server files. Made the folder and everything. Port forwarded. All the juice for your generic locally hosted dedicated server.
Everyone I asked to connect was able to search the name and join it in-game except for me. I canβt even find the server on the Steam server browser. 
sly drift
This is driving me mad lmfao. Only game where I can't connect to my own server.
neat berry
@sly drift are you trying to connect to it from the same computer you're running it on?
little trench
These a few things that could be looked at. @sly drift
Assuming you have changed the default ports for the server off the default and so you can still play the game otherwise.
You game would be using somewhere in the range of (Roughly) 27015-27060 for steam ports to find servers.
I suggest while you have the server open, Resource Monitor and see what ports the game/server are trying to use.
Windows 10, select Start > All Apps > Windows Administrative Tools > Resource Monitor
Network tab > Tick box on Server/game > Scroll to bottom and see what ports are being used.
In the modem, likely you have extra security options. One that has seemed to be a problem is, Packet Filtering on some modems.
Hope you can find something!
sly drift
@neat berry Yessir
@little trench Thanks for the info. I'll look into it when I am back home late tonight.
radiant gale
finally got it working, for some reason the server was insisting on using 27015 no matter what I told it
shy ether
@elder smelt Heyo, we don't actually allow server advertisements in here. This is more of a technical support channel for server hosting
We prefer that people take their advertisements to our LFG section on the Steam forums
sand fjord
Whenever I look up my server's name it dosen't show up for me and I can't join it. Did I not set it up correctly?
civic island
What is the discord for Isla Nublar #3
sand fjord
nobody actually answers your questions I guess
wind ermine
@sand fjord is it a dedicated server, hosted server, or a server hosted in-game?
dw it happens to me too
wind ermine
making a server through the host button won't work. it's a private server made for you only, and once you leave it's gone
sand fjord
oh, so how do I make a public server?
wind ermine
dedicated or use a hosting site if you got the money. dedicated requires a fairly good machine
wind ermine
lol yeah i guess
neat berry
@sly drift This would be your issue, you can't join your own server on the machine it's being hosted on due to IP and port conflicts. If you don't have a separate machine to host on you could always try hosting in a virtual machine
sly drift
@neat berry OK I had a feeling. Thanks for the response. π
little trench
You can host on the same machine and play. No problem with that.
neat berry
Yeah actually you're right, my bad. Just takes a bit more messing around to get working sometimes. You might try just disabling windows firewall temporarily @sly drift . If that works, add an exception to the firewall and re-enable it. I had similar issues on my own and it usually always was a port issue, either on windows on in the modem.
also do you have a static IP setup?
sly drift
Yes
Legit everything that should be set to work works except for my own ability to see my server in the server list and connect
It has to be a port issue, but with the ports that are forwarded everyone can see and join, even if I use the βHostβ button in-game. So I could only assume itβs firewall related, even though I allowed incoming and outgoing traffic for the game. 
neat berry
both in windows firewall and the modem/router?
sly drift
Yea
If all players can see and connect to the server but me canβt still be a firewall issue?
Can it
neat berry
sometimes still can be, but just for you. I'm just looking through my own setup atm. I had issues with the server not coming up in the steam server browser but was fine-in game, turned out to be an issue with the ports 15000-15001 not being forwarded
sly drift
Where is the game looking for 15000 ever? Nobody posted about those being used
At least the guides
If it needs 15000 and 15001 then thatβs the problem
neat berry
I'm not entirely sure what it's used for, I only found out about it from other games that needed it open to work along with 7777 and 27015
sly drift
Iβm only using 7777-7780 and 27015, 27016
Let me get out of bed and go downstairs and see if it magically shows up or not. 
neat berry
I think it's used by steam sometimes as a server list update port for certain games (like Mordhau), but your friends can see it.
sly drift
Yea like when itβs online the world can see and connect to it, but for me it displays βServer not respondingβ with the IP as the server name
So overall it wonβt appear in the steam server list
neat berry
whats your server called?
neat berry
lol you can PM it to me if ya want
sly drift
Let me rename it and turn it on after I port forward those 2 ports
So
for the inbound rules on the firewall
the 'specific ports' I have in there is 7777-7780, 27015-27016, 15000-15001
That should be more than enough, ye? 
neat berry
yeah. i personally do outbound as well on both TCP/UDP. Windows firewall is pretty fuckey. Also do you have antivirus software?
neat berry
its fine, it's all i use too.
sly drift
Hardcore.
neat berry
most antivirus isn't effective in the modern internet landscape.
sly drift
Exactly.
So with outbound rules it puts the 'specific ports' in the 'remote ports' section.
That's intended?
Or should those also be local
neat berry
I've just got mine as specific ports in local port
sly drift
OK
Well in that case I'm turning the server on
The name is my Discord name with 420 at the end because I'm 
sly drift
and I still can't see it on the steam browser
the state is "InProgess" so
I gotta delve into it
it didn't save the name
nice
restarting it
neat berry
are you using the script looter provided to run it?
sly drift
Whichever one that auto-restarts after 60 seconds if it crashes
I got it from a guide from a user on here
neat berry
ye that's it
sly drift
Lit
neat berry
It's also pinned here
neat berry
I'm gonna go with yeah
neat berry
yeah, also throw it in the end of the actual cmd lines within the bat
sly drift
This .bat is also starting a new server over and over again every 60 seconds 
I have no clue wtf is going on
neat berry
if you killed the dedicated server it's just doing what it's programmed to do: detect it's absence and restart
neat berry
yeah, your bat console and the server itself
sly drift
Alright well I started it up and I can't see it.
neat berry
do you have a command line MultiHome=[ip]? in your commandline by chance?
neat berry
okay i can see it ingame
sly drift
Epic
neat berry
and in steam server list
sly drift
Not for me 
neat berry
alright do me a favour, swap your ServerPort and QueryPort numbers around.
neat berry
π¬
sly drift
make the query 7780
neat berry
yeah, and Port= should be 27015 or whatever
sly drift
I'll keep the query 7777 then
neat berry
I think. When you server came up it was IP:7777
sly drift
Yes
neat berry
I had an issue for myself where if the port was 7777, it wouldn't come up in the list. Swapped them around so it was 27015 it was fine
sly drift
did you leave the query port 7777 or make them both 27015
or port 27015 and query 27016
neat berry
I'm just booting mine up to check
sly drift
OK
neat berry
Port=27015?QueryPort=7777
sly drift
OK
Why is it sometimes when the server starts up it just stops moving and I have to press ctrl+c to resume it?
neat berry
dunno. Unreal engine being buggy I guess. happens to me sometimes
also if this doesn't work, next step is to remove the multihome command. I had to remove it for my dedicated to work but It's on a separate machine. Dunno if it's relevant to same-machine hosting
sly drift
Yea I launched it and still can't see it.
neat berry
i can see it
sly drift
That line should be there if you have multiple server being hosted out of the same machine I thought.
So yea the entire world can see and join it, but I can't
That's with 27015 port and 7777 query
neat berry
_>
neat berry
actually do you have the MultiHome IP set to your internal system IP or external IP?
neat berry
excellent.
sly drift
That's the problem? 
neat berry
nothing, i've just done the internal IP and wondered why it wasn't working before XD
making sure you didn't do a dumb like I did
neat berry
and it's up
neat berry
π€
sly drift
Everything works no problem with the server
but I can't join it
I'm turning off my firewall completely
I'm done
neat berry
lol, also a good option. If that works you'll at least know it's a firewall problem
neat berry
i'm just researching similar issues with other games on the same engine since there's not a lot around for The Isle
okay, add the multihome= cmd back in but set the IP to your home, so 127.0.0.1
sly drift
OK
What about ?listen at the end before -log and -NOSTEAM ??
someone commented about that but it didn't help me at the time
neat berry
listen port would be 15000 but after booting my own server, I don't have it and the isle doesn't use it. probs okay to remove it.
neat berry
hmm, its up again tho.
sly drift
with any of those different settings it works
but I myself can't join off the same computer it's being hosted from.
That's the only issue I can't solve.
neat berry
You get this line in the actual server cmd line?: LoadMap: /Game/TheIsle/Maps/Landscape3/Isle_V3?Name=Player?Port=27015?QueryPort=7777?MaxPlayers=100?game=Survival
or similar
sly drift
cls
echo Protecting isle server from crashes...
title The Isle Server - Rapticopter 420
:TheIsle
echo (%time%) isle server started.
start /wait C:\Games\TheIsleServer\TheIsleServer.exe /Game/TheIsle/Maps/Landscape3/Isle_V3?MultiHome=127.0.0.1?Port=27015?QueryPort=7777?MaxPlayers=100?game=Survival -log -NOSTEAM | set /P "="
echo (%time%) WARNING: isle server closed or crashed, restarting in 1 minute.
timeout /t 60
goto TheIsle
entire .bat
unless we're talkin' output in the cmd
neat berry
yeah that.
sly drift
dope
neat berry
yeah yours is basically identical to mine
neat berry
ya but it's on it's own machine
you should be able to host and join on the same machine but it does get fuckey, as you're experiencing
sly drift
yea I don't get it
I've had this issue with older games like Minecraft But not on steam games like Garry's Mod, Rust, etc.
Rust uses SteamCMD as well to install server files for the game and to host a dedicated server and it works no problem.
All I had to do was forward the right ports and it worked. No firewall tampering or anything.
neat berry
based on that i'm leaning towards it maybe being a limitation of the game itself and perhaps this one just doesn't like sharing on the same machine
sly drift
Then why would people say you can host and play and host on the same machine?
Trollin'
neat berry
hopefully if someone else here has done it they can provide a solution. You could also try changing the ports so they're on the upper level of the default range (like 27020+ and 7780+)
sly drift
The in-game "Host" button works no problem, but you don't get any of the fine tuning abilities.
neat berry
personal experience with other games working, thus all games must work
sly drift
Where can I see on the resource monitor what ports are being used for the server?
Even though I clearly defined which ones to use
neat berry
search Resource Monitor in windows, it'll look like a speedometer
neat berry
go to the CPU tab, select the TheIsle.exe then go to the network tab
it'll show under TCP/Listening ports what's being broadcast for that specific exe
neat berry
that port is wrong tho
neat berry
hmmm....i had this happen where the reported port was something random, and it was because the requested port 27015 was already occupied.
sly drift
Now can that change depending on how the ports are being forwarded?
But like it legit doesn't matter
because everyone in the world can connect to the server
it wouldn't show up if the ports were being blocked
neat berry
yeah, but i think your system itself is trying to join using occupied ports
or can't see it cause the ports are occupied
or other port-related black magic
sly drift
so do I meme and forward port 58547 or is that just a random one it chose at the time?
what is I just opened 27015-60000?
neat berry
just a random port. It might change every time you restart the server. The only thing I can suggest atm is to change the 27015 port to something like 27020.
sly drift
OK I'll try it out
neat berry
and the 7777 port to 7780
neat berry
ya, do the same for the windows firewall then tell theisle to listen to something on the high-end of the range
sly drift
changed it and still can't see it. 
neat berry
you can't force join via adding to your favs can you?
sly drift
external IP
different ports
it all works
nope
it says server not responding
can't join off a friend either
if I do add 127.0.0.1 I get this
automatically adds 27015
and says not responding
neat berry
interesting. Try multi home to your internal static IP, then external again
then remove it entirely
just wanna see if it changes for you
sly drift
like the 10.0.? one
neat berry
ya
sly drift
OK
neat berry
only suggesting it cause i've seen people with the same issue in Conan Exiles doing the same and it magically works
sly drift
Conan gives players a direct connect option.
using internal IP now
can't see it
the servers I'm adding to favorites is giving it 27015
but the port I'm using is 27020
I'm going to move it back to 27015 and watch it not work 
resource monitor gives this
this has to be the issue
neat berry
i think so, it should reflect the same ports you're using
sly drift
but it isn't
I don't get it
I legit define what ports to use and it just uses a random open one
The remote port is 27021 though
and then the listening port is 7780
wait for the local and remote ports in the firewall
I have "All ports" selected
should they both have the select list of ports only?
neat berry
can't hurt to put the specific ports in there too to see if it does anything
I'm afraid I'm outta idea broski. This is all the troubleshooting I had to do for my own server to get it eventually working. Beyond that I'm not much help, but at least you've got a bunch of potential problems eliminated.
neat berry
again if you're feeling adventurous you could try hosting within a VM
sly drift
if I had a separate computer, I'd be fine.
yea but that's a bunch of extra setup and computing power I don't want to dedicate
unless one is stupid lightweight
one last bit, why is there 4 other isle's here
they all have the same setting pretty much
neat berry
possibly autoadded if you had a prompt come up from windows to add it to the firewall
neat berry
they're probably the ones tethered directly to the exe
sly drift
which defeats the purpose adding specific ports by themselves if all ports are already added?
probably
regardless, I'm almost certain it can't be ports
can't be my IP
can't be anything honestly
nothing is set up wrongly
I'll sleep on it and see if anything happens
neat berry
ya, my hunch is still on it just not liking being hosted and joined from the same machine
sly drift
Relatable
neat berry
I'm heading off now, hopefully someone else can help ya find a solution or at least say whether or not it can be hosted and played on the same machine.
neat berry
in the words of our great leaders in Aus, "just stop being born poor" and buy a second computer π
polar mist
Thanks
little trench
@neat berry Will help you out over the weekend contact me in DM and we'll see if we can make something work.
neat berry
@little trench It's @sly drift that needs it, but I'll help chip in to find a solution.
little trench
My bad, wrong ping XD
sweet socket
Hey everyone I just made a server for the isle (on nitrado) and Iβm struggling to find out how to make myself an admin. Does anyone know how to help me?
keen moat
Hi, I do not have a single server. How can this problem be solved?
ember plank
@sweet socket I've not used Nitrado for the isle before but i know on ARK servers you can input your steam ID to a whitelist "admin" box (on web interface) and that will make that player an admin. You should look for a similar box on the isle's server interface.
white kite
You add
"ServerAdmins=YOURSTEAMIDHERE" in your configuration files @sweet socket
white kite
Hold up i was mistaken, it's Game.ini we have to find
sweet socket
Ahh ok
white kite
Im not familiar with Nitrado though so I cant tell you where to click
little trench
Good job making a server, but a mod will probably let you know advertising server/discord isn't allowed in this channel.
sweet socket
Oh my bad I will delete it
little trench
π Enjoy, there's the steam board where you can post your server advertisements!
https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/13/
chrome laurel
how do i host a server i don't know what im doing at all can you guys help me?
wind ermine
@chrome laurel host a dedicated server aka through your own machine or from a host site that you gotta pay for. i can link the dedicated server setup guide if needed
chrome laurel
@wind ermine yeah the links guide will be perfect
wind ermine
chrome laurel
Thank you
remote nova
Hey,
Could anyone tell me what the server minimum hardware requirements are to host an 100 player slot server?
I could be that i missed it somewhere but i can find the game requirements but not the server requirements...
Kind regards, JR
wind ermine
@remote nova 8gb and 3.5ghz cpu for 100 slots
remote nova
Alright thanks
merry urchin
I needs shum halp pleash
wind ermine
@merry urchin what do you need help with
merry urchin
So I followed all the steps in the guide but I'm not seeing my own server, not sure what I did wrong
wind ermine
the dedicated server guide posted above?
wind ermine
is the server browser not loading servers for you or is it just your server that's not showing up?
merry urchin
Just my server showing
wind ermine
double checked your filters, yeah?
merry urchin
Okie, danku
merry urchin
Hey! I'm getting this odd server error whenever people join in ... any ideas on its cause and a possible fix?
merry urchin
hm this issue seems to be solved, I accidentally had experimental settings enabled
although I can't seem to open up the character screen in game, or use the scent ability .. (I'm in progression)
naive onyx
Progression is not really supported anymore
merry urchin
Alright, thanks for the heads up!
naive onyx
No problem!
merry urchin
Quit question for anyone listening, High AI server. What should my AI setting be at to make it so?
And also how does one make food and water deplete quicker
merry urchin
And the stam regen cause whoa, way to fast
white kite
There's AI settings in the config file but they don't actually do anything @merry urchin
merry urchin
Oh okie, but what abt shortening the way ones food/water depletes and lengthen the time it takes for stamina to recover? Going for survival server and it's moreover sandbox with how it's currently doing
white kite
You cannot change those value either, until modding come back at least.
merry urchin
Ahh, okie. I just noticed some servers have it that way, guess from when modding was implemented. But dankuu
vital granite
Is there any way to query server statistics until RCON is supported again? (More info than the API offers http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IP:PORT&format=json)
merry urchin
How does 1 shrink the size of a player?
wind ermine
@merry urchin access the player's json file and change their growth. thats the only way how
merry urchin
Dankuuuuu
sweet socket
Does anyone know how tlo change my dino on my survival server into a sandbox dino on nitrado/
inland leaf
I created the isle dedicated server, did everything but my server doesn't show up on server list. please help?
merry urchin
Try this. Before opening the server or game login anonymously to steamcmd. Then, Go into the .bat file and change port to 7778 and the query port to 27016. And then start up the server and go into the game and select LAN Only. See if that works @inland leaf
merry urchin
Okies, lemme know if it works ^-^
merry urchin
Glad I could be of helllllllp!!!! @inland leaf
merry urchin
How do we get the frozen north map on a server?
vocal cliff
Iβm having trouble getting the FrozenNorth mod on my Server. Could anyone help me out with that? I managed to get the file in The Isle Dedicated Server/TheIsle/Content/Paks but whenever I try and run the command it gives me a error.
wind ermine
@vocal cliff @merry urchin you'd have to ask the creators of the mod for help with it
merry urchin
Is there an auto restart for servers?
Rather, something I can put in my bat file to make it so
I found this but it just looks nuts.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/16/3658515990056827365/
white kite
There's also one in this guide for server crash
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1502947359
@echo off cls echo Protecting isle server from crashes... title The Isle Server - My Amazing Server :TheIsle echo (%time%) isle server started. start /wait C:\TheIsleServer\TheIsleServer.exe /Game/TheIsle/Maps/Landscape3/Isle_V3?MultiHome=12.345.67.890?Port=7777?QueryPort=7777?MaxPlayers=100?game=Survival -log | set /P "=" echo (%time%) WARNING: isle server closed or crashed, restarting in 1 minute. timeout /t 60 goto TheIsle
It was made by looter
merry urchin
In tht though, where would I put the times for server restart? That's my current bat file. Would they go in the (%time%)? Could i get an example of what itd look like?
Like..the first (%time%) would be like...12am. And the second 12pm? If that's it is it military time or standard? @white kite
naive onyx
Thatβs for if the server was to crash itβll reappear after 60 seconds. What youβre looking for Iβm not quite sure how youβd go about scheduled auto restarts.
unborn bloom
What needs to be added in order to disable alt turning?
white kite
bServerAllowTurnInPlace= false
In your game.ini @unborn bloom
unborn bloom
Thank you
inland leaf
Can someone check if he see my server on the server list? cuz i asked a guy and he said he doesn't see my server there
Ok its only show up for me. does someone have a fix?
final dove
Question here, so when i change someones json files
In my tool it does not change the location XYZ of the player - it only changes the specific dinosaur, and set stamina, health etc to full.
However, I've heard that some players - even though it doesn't get changed - get teleported to china .. However in most cases they're mostly in same location
Question is, does that teleport them safely because their dinosaur clips on ground when changed (sometimes - 1 out of 10)? Or does anybody know..
I simply don't get the reason why in 1 out of 10 cases ports the player - unless its game related.
white kite
If you open their json file before they have safe.logged it will keep the coords of when they logged in, could explain why some gets teleported @final dove
final dove
They have safelogged when it is.
I might found something i am lacking, i saw on Isle_V3 that the locations are marked with "Isle_V3_Position" etc
And i realized i am lacking that for thenyaw .. ""Location_Thenyaw_Island"
So i will try to code that in, and see if it persists
bitter palm
twilit cargo
I don't know. Describe your issue in detail here and someone else will assist.
light bay
Can other players get in the server if I host one through the game? Iβm new to this.
wind ermine
@light bay no. its a private server. you can only do so with a dedicated server/site hosted server
light bay
Okay.
deep nexus
How do I find the codes for the dinos to disable them from Starting screen
deep nexus
<@&505047238674874368>
naive onyx
@deep nexus Towards the bottom of this guide there are the codes: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1502947359
naive onyx
DisabledDinosaurs=
naive onyx
did you restart after you saved?
deep nexus
I am trying that now
naive onyx
aight gl
deep nexus
Didnt work
naive onyx
weird
faint vapor
If it helps, whenever we disabled Puerta on our server, it had a default already in there labeled "TRex"
Maybe give that a try?
This was through PingPerfect, btw.
naive onyx
what gamemode is your server in?
faint vapor
I've done it both in Sandbox and Survival, so it should work for Wolf.
proper portal
Who has a server with a healthy amount of active players?
violet arrow
This might be a dumb question but I'm not good at bots at all and it's driving me nuts I can't figure out how to do it aside from what I assume would be an incredibly round-about way so, is there a simple set up for a bot that tells you your server status? ex; when it restarts/if it is down/online
faint vapor
On our server, while in the web console monitoring chat, I've noticed these errors pop up for AI indicating they didn't spawn.
LogSpawn: Warning: SpawnActor failed because of collision at the spawn location [X=-463066.844 Y=174867.891 Z=-52647.934] for [BP_AIVelociraptor_C]
Should that be worth reporting in bug reports? Map is V3.
It happens occasionally, maybe a couple times within an hour.
unkempt kindle
how tocreate server with all dinosaurs
spare terrace
Hello, I am a founder of a dedicated server and I can not disable the dinosaurs despite the documentation. Can you tell me how to do it? thank you in advance for your help
alpine dagger
hello we can not find the command line to remove a dinosaur from the spawn menu
gaunt creek
can someone explaine me what is hapenning with our serveur?
[2019.08.29-18.45.51:152][421]LogWindows: Warning: CreateProc failed: The system cannot find the file specified. (0x00000002)
[2019.08.29-18.45.51:153][421]LogWindows: Warning: URL: ../../../Engine/Binaries/Win64/CrashReportClient.exe "C:/Pingperfect/Users/zineg/214601/TheIsle/Saved/Crashes/UE4CC-Windows-0C7B85674884E561B49B80A6630BBE10_0009" -Unattended -nullrhi -AppName=UE4-TheIsle -CrashGUID=UE4CC-Windows-0C7B85674884E561B49B80A6630BBE10_0009 -DebugSymbols=......\Engine\Intermediate\Symbols
[2019.08.29-18.45.51:153][421]LogCore: Error: Hang detected on GameThread (thread hasn't sent a heartbeat for 25.00 seconds):
primal acorn
My server lags and sometimes crashes when it gets more than 10 people, what could I upgrade to make that not happen?
deep nexus
<@&505047238674874368> Do you know how I can disable a Rex, Giga and Trike? Already tried
RexAdultS
GigaAdultS
TrikeAdultS
merry urchin
@deep nexus Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUAlfSUpGU
deep nexus
I did I wrote in RexAdultS and it didn't work and it is the right code? @merry urchin
merry urchin
For example:
[/script/theisle.igamemode]
DisabledDinosaurs=Velo
just do "DisabledDinosaurs=(dino code name like velo or shant)"
MAKE SURE that you have the [/script/theisle.igamemode] line above it first
Here is also another tutorial for disabling dinosaurs. You have the right script make sure to put it in Parentheses: "RexAdultS"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1231855950
merry urchin
@deep nexus Try that and also the link I posted above, read through it. There is another video in there that can help you.
deep nexus
I have read that link
Ty
Quick question @merry urchin what is this?
But If I disable shant what happens it is not in respawn screen
merry urchin
@deep nexus Ignore that. Yes, if you disable Shant, players will not be able to choose it under the respawn screen.
deep nexus
Yeah okey I have survival so no need
Restarted the server with the code @merry urchin but the dino is still there...
merry urchin
Oh, you need to disable the juvenile code: "RexJuvS"
deep nexus
It worked!!!!
I love you NO HOMO π
merry urchin
β€
alpine dagger
hello do you know the command line to add the fall damage
white kite
I dont think you can change the fall damage @alpine dagger
wind ermine
you can turn fall damage on and off
primal acorn
My server lags and sometimes crashes when it gets more than 10 people, what could I upgrade to make that not happen?
merry urchin
@primal acorn Might want to talk to your support to upgrade your server. Might need more RAM or CPU for your server.
digital mesa
storm cedar
What is the correct inject for Alberto juvi?
Is it just AlbertoJuv, and .7?
merry urchin
@storm cedar https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1231855950 You can use this link to help you π it tells you the codes for the dinosaurs and how to set players as dinos on your server (through a server host)
storm cedar
tysm! ^^
merry urchin
No problem!
unkempt tangle
@merry urchin We do not allow advertisement for other servers in this discord. Please refer to the LFG page on the Steam forums instead.
tropic wasp
I have a weird question for you all. I have noticed that I never seem to get rain on my server. Is there any reason for that? Some config setting or such? I can /weather force it, but it just doesn't seem to happen otherwise from a fresh start
autumn plinth
Quick question...when hosting a private server/game for just myself and my kids is there a way to increase the AI spawn rate?
edgy mango
I donβt believe so