Server WIPE Plans (EN)

[icy gyro]

this place is for planing out what some groups are gonna work on this wipe

the stages of when public projects is gonna start and end is measured in the general voltage of the server from LV-Low_voltage to IV-Insane_voltage

there is ppl that is making a public TRAIN/RAIL system on the main parts of the server (LV-IV)
there is ppl that is making a public TRAID/CURRENCY system on the server in form of SILVER for the start of the server (LV -HV)
there is ppl that is making a public SHOP/HELPING system for new players to get them som basic starting food and water (MV-IV)

feel free to add things in this Chanel but keep it on topic

here is som links do difrent groups that has there own discord's
https://discord.gg/B3YMMSZKeB (Traiding)
https://discord.gg/NUNqjsu2hB 2nd world contry (exploring)+ far train/rail systems

https://discord.gg/Q9YpWnyPyJ Mega city project

[rigid spoke]

Sounds good

[polar plank]

lmao

[minor oracle]

why use silver ingots btw

[sharp perch]

Guessing because electrum , hv parts , blue alloy , but that's just a guess

also silver coins were irl currency

and silver is probably slightly more usefull than gold

[rancid locust]

they just look pretty

[minor oracle]

there's a bunch of actual coins you could always use

[sharp perch]

yeah but the issue is...

[icy gyro]

ask them in there discord

[sharp perch]

do they have a use?

[icy gyro]

this is what thay made for now

[sharp perch]

Currency being worth something outside of trading is nice

[icy gyro]

dik what i feel about it

[icy gyro]

yes

[minor oracle]

well alright

[pastel hearth]

In the end at which time and timezone will be the server wipe? If it will happen.

[icy gyro]

in 20h

ops 17h

[minor oracle]

tomorrow

[icy gyro]

GMT 10 pm

[mint wyvern]

wipe tomorrow?

[icy gyro]

yes

[mint wyvern]

and the seed of the world will be published?

[icy gyro]

most likly not

becuse i asked for the seed for the one that is rn and i did not get it after omost 4 motnhs of asking

[jaunty moss]

@minor oracle since the wipe is tomorrow i wanted to ask the world file cause i literally spent 6 months on the server and i prefer not losing it.
Thanks

[icy gyro]

trust me you want to resatart

[jaunty moss]

I already did

I just want the world

My old progress

[icy gyro]

well your gona lose everyhitng

everything

[jaunty moss]

?

How come

[icy gyro]

becuse it is gona WIPE

[jaunty moss]

Thats why i asked for the world

[icy gyro]

aka new map new quest new items

[icy gyro]

you can,t just get the new world

[jaunty moss]

Why?

[icy gyro]

your gona lose your base your items

[jaunty moss]

Bro

I dont want the seed

I want the world file

[icy gyro]

thay are gona give out the world file

[jaunty moss]

Where and when

[icy gyro]

in the discord and when thay hav time

[jaunty moss]

Where did they say this

[jaunty moss]

Holy shit

[icy gyro]

total server size is 170 gb

[jaunty moss]

170 gb is crazy

[icy gyro]

it is low

[jaunty moss]

Yeah no its not

[icy gyro]

then thay need to remove player uuid then thay will uploade it

[jaunty moss]

Sad cause i cant dowload it

[icy gyro]

well not theres or my problem

[jaunty moss]

Well ima put my base on a schematic

[icy gyro]

ok

[mint wyvern]

i need it save!

[icy gyro]

save what ?

this is what i build on the server rn

[icy gyro]

#1373672049259577455 message

join my discord there and look

[jaunty moss]

What is that?

[icy gyro]

my builds

[jaunty moss]

No like

[icy gyro]

join this one

[jaunty moss]

The stuff you pinged

[jaunty moss]

What is it tho?

[icy gyro]

what stuff

[jaunty moss]

These

[icy gyro]

my TFG discord so you can see what my team is gona do nexst wipe + my builds

[jaunty moss]

Oh ok

[glass quiver]

Not super useful, easy to store and transport, hard to find in bulk but easy to find a little bit everywhere, and also larp

[icy gyro]

larp ?

[glass quiver]

Live action roleplay

[icy gyro]

ah

[minor oracle]

live action gregtech

[glass quiver]

Basically bc it's fun for some people (me) to use something that feels like currency

Also , expecting a no but will the world download be made available before the wipe at all?

[minor oracle]

hm I could make you guys better recipes for the coins if you want

(ones which let you melt the coins back down)

[icy gyro]

if a admin was printing the coin items with a inadvisable name so you can.t fake it then selling rewarding coins based on time played

[minor oracle]

I'm not a server admin lol but I think it's cooler when the players come up with stuff themselves

[icy gyro]

aka you can used item played as currency

[icy gyro]

yes but the problem in inflation

you need somting to stop/limmet infasion

that is why i put it to lv-hv becuse after that you can mass produse anythign to sell

so that is why time can be a limit

[mint wyvern]

world

[icy gyro]

it is saved

[minor oracle]

well that's why you can just melt the coins back down and use them for wires or whatever :p

[icy gyro]

well if you use actual item coins thay need to be more valuble then the metal thay are made from

[minor oracle]

they can stack to 64!

[icy gyro]

yes what i am talking about is a money plugin wherer you gain $$$ by playing and can trade that $$$ for item with other players

[minor oracle]

whenever we upgrade to create 6, you'll be able to set up automatic shops

[icy gyro]

you can do that now as well

you can actualy do that in vanilla

[minor oracle]

well, nicer ones that don't rely on tons of redstone or player trust lol

[icy gyro]

like somting like this on the side of the screen

and that it slowly increases over time played (not afk)

[minor oracle]

that's a whole mod

[placid oracle]

what kinda map is the server gonna use after wipe?

[icy gyro]

no it is just a plugin

[icy gyro]

it is random seed

[placid oracle]

oh ok i was just wondering if they was gonna use some sort special map like an huge earth map or somethin

[steep fractal]

Just please start in temperate climate this time and not north pole

[icy gyro]

no

[icy gyro]

XD

[glass quiver]

i really don't like the idea of our economy being based on a plugin tbh

[icy gyro]

well it is the oynly way to stop inflation when 1 person gets HV bifor any one gets MV

[glass quiver]

i've done this a couple times on other servers and it's never been an issue

[minor oracle]

ok I made a bunch of recipes for the gregtech credits 👍

[rigid spoke]

Yayy

[rigid spoke]

Thanks

[icy gyro]

well to say it like this
it is 3 leather for 1 silver
then i make a cow farm with 9 of the feeding boxes
and i make a cheep butchers knife
i can get 3 stacks of leather per 5h
so i can get the same value in leather as 2 stacks of sliver in 1 day in bronse age

[glass quiver]

then we negotiate for lower prices or i get it somewhere else

supply and demand

[icy gyro]

yes but that is the problem with the set price that you made

[glass quiver]

fair point

[sharp perch]

set prices make no sense when they aren't enforceable

you cannot create a monopoly here

[glass quiver]

it's not a set price, it's what I personally trade for

[sharp perch]

I mean your prices make sense if you will always honnor them

[glass quiver]

exactly

i don't expect everyone else to adhere to them, that's insane

[rigid spoke]

@minor oracle maybe its a good idea to implement a one time rtp and tpa..? so teams dont need to travel thousands of blocks

[icy gyro]

you know ppl are not gonna do dose prices

[glass quiver]

hard disagree on the tpa

[glass quiver]

people have

[rigid spoke]

one time, so whole team can rtp at once?

[icy gyro]

so that is why we need a admin/owner to have a set LIMMETED suply of money so you can trade for

[glass quiver]

hmm, good point

[icy gyro]

as in limmeted i mean it increases over time but at the same rates as time played on the server

aka time played = $ (but not when afk over 5 min)

[sharp perch]

I say just have 8 command blocks that send you 10-15K blocks away for the first 3 days

for example sending you to 10K 10K , 10K -10K , yk what I mean

so there is a bit more spread

[icy gyro]

what i mean is eatch hour played on the server is like 100$ and you can then decide a price on that information

[rigid spoke]

hard no

haaard no

[glass quiver]

also hard no

[icy gyro]

why is that ?

[sharp perch]

money for playing or afking is stupid

[rigid spoke]

it doesnt make sense

at all

[sharp perch]

it devalues everything for 0 reason

[glass quiver]

it fixes nothing and ruins my immersion

[icy gyro]

not for AFK it is for general time played

[sharp perch]

it is for afk

[rigid spoke]

in general usable commands are stupid

[glass quiver]

server can't tell the difference

[rigid spoke]

except this rtp one

[sharp perch]

it's not for what you account for being afk

[icy gyro]

so a plugin will stop givving money if you don.t activly do somting

[sharp perch]

yup

[icy gyro]

yes it can

[sharp perch]

never works

Define doing something

[icy gyro]

it dose

[glass quiver]

that's also just too much work for the devs to bother with when they have other stuff to work on

they already gave us coin recipes and everyone was happy

[sharp perch]

hypixel skyblock , hypixel being the biggest server for minecraft

FAILED

[icy gyro]

activly givving the server movment packets or interact packets to the server host

[sharp perch]

this whole idea you are saying

there is always a workaround

there will always be a workaround

[icy gyro]

it is pre made plugins for that XD

[glass quiver]

plus it feels like reinventing the wheel

in a way

[sharp perch]

And the currency makes no sense

yeah you existed longer than the other?

Congratz ?

[icy gyro]

oh ye let me just get to HV in 4 days then just print infenite coints

[sharp perch]

Doesn't matter if you got to ZPM in the time someone else got to LV

you both played same ammount of time so same money

[icy gyro]

that is why time based currency is good

[sharp perch]

so is it just passive resource generation unlocked upon joining at that point ?

[sharp perch]

it's why it's horrible

[icy gyro]

becuse it keeps same value as what you do in the server

[sharp perch]

unless it's only for specific stuff that can never be speed up

[icy gyro]

tell me why it is soo bad

[glass quiver]

i also see the potential for creating a massive economic imbalance between people who were there on wipe day and people who join months later

[sharp perch]

to a player that reaches ZPM it's worth less than someone that was LV

[rigid spoke]

just suggest adding a tfg shitcoin then anyways why not

[sharp perch]

there is 0 catching up

[rigid spoke]

oops]

[sharp perch]

guaranteed inflation

[rigid spoke]

wrong reply

[sharp perch]

no sinks

[rigid spoke]

not replying to u novo

[sharp perch]

encourages mostly doing nothing at all for the sake of extra money

currency should be relative to what you do in game not if you are in game

think about jobs that pay a hourly rate in real life

everyone does the absolute minimum possible while keeping the same money income

[icy gyro]

no becuse the guy that got to ZPM has sold more things and if he is gona buy somting it is from ither players in ZMP

but i gtg now cya

[sharp perch]

cya

[rigid spoke]

man 40hrs until wipe..

what do

[sharp perch]

40?

oh wipe 24h after verdict

[sharp perch]

find someone to team up with

I will go solo

[rigid spoke]

we have

like 10 team members

a trello board made

[sharp perch]

holy fk

zpm first week

[rigid spoke]

lol

[sharp perch]

just force 8 into resource production , 1 into logistics and one into pattern creation

and you will get UHV first month

[rigid spoke]

if half wont become inactive after the first few days i bet LOL

ik im grinding

[sharp perch]

I know I am getting to AE2 start first week

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[glass quiver]

we have city planning and shit

[sharp perch]

I bet

I bet you already have full progression pathed out with dedicated chemical guy and all

[glass quiver]

not full progression but we have a civilization planned

[sharp perch]

can I have the trello to spy on your plans

I won't share

I just want to see if there is valuable info there , something I did not see

[lyric void]

I think I'll participate this time too, see you after the wipe) @icy gyro

[lyric void]

I can do it, but wouldn't it be easier to make a bank through computer craft, as Maro and I planned, but waited for new things to appear for computer craft

[rancid locust]

is food rot speed normal and uninterupted on logout?

[lyric void]

We can think about playing with the configs by setting the length of months and seasons so that it doesn't hit players so hard

[rancid locust]

oh is food rot determined by month length not its own variable?

[icy gyro]

Yes that is true but we need to make it so the bank can.t make anything from

Aka the bank owner can.t use the bank

[lyric void]

I'll just be the owner of the bank 😛
You trust me, right?

[rancid locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1081255061688160266/678BF311-C300-4284-BF9E-7BFADA0DA42B.gif

[icy gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-9437587443350424375

XD

The timing

[rancid locust]

barely got it in time

[icy gyro]

Lol

[lyric void]

I'm not entirely sure, but judging by the config it is so

[rancid locust]

also is new serv opening 10pm tmrw or is that when the serv is wiped

[icy gyro]

But that means that you can.t
Buy sell trade
Or do any thing to the market after you made the cumputercraft system

[rancid locust]

or is it on 20th may?

[icy gyro]

I did the rily complex math of finding out that the end of the vote is GMT 10 pm

[rancid locust]

ohh right

[icy gyro]

So it might take hours or a day to wipe

[rancid locust]

"shall we make a release on 20.05?
with replacement of open-parties-and-claims
to start the server already with it"
this is what ive heard

[icy gyro]

Of btw

[icy gyro]

This

[lyric void]

I don't think I'll be trading with anyone or visiting the server very often, we just finished GTNH and I want to take a breather

[icy gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/heaving-breathing-kitty-fat-cat-chubby-cat-gif-17820448

Yes

[icy gyro]

Finish finish it ?

[minor oracle]

I agree that turning down food expiration times on an always-on server would be a good idea

[icy gyro]

Like making 2 portals ?

[rancid locust]

I agree with pyritie bc hes making the same point as me yes yes

[icy gyro]

Like that is 4000 hours to do

Like speed run is 99days and 21 hours

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-adding-up-calculating-cute-gif-13422595142509651236

Or

New world record

By the oll mighty @lyric void !!!!!

[lyric void]

Yes

[icy gyro]

How

[lyric void]

Nope

[icy gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-freaked-out-shocked-shook-gif-11265671

Comfushed Frog

[lyric void]

1500 hours

[icy gyro]

But sleepy time Frog

[icy gyro]

That is new world record

WR is 2397h

[lyric void]

No

[icy gyro]

.

[lyric void]

#224191655375273985 message

@icy gyro )

[icy gyro]

I can’t Even find a 100% speed run of GTNH

[lyric void]

The world record is now held by a team of 40 Chinese

[icy gyro]

Yes ik that but no other atemps of it any wherer

[icy gyro]

There was a server just for speedruning that

But there was no other offical attempts

But Frog sleep now

https://tenor.com/view/abi-toads-frog-sleep-cute-smol-rain-gif-15332826013407105464

[minor oracle]

what's the world record?

[icy gyro]

It was ≈ 3400 at som point for 100%

[minor oracle]

wow

[last lagoon]

i think if the melt recipe was implemented it should give way less than what is used to make coin, so the coin keeps its value.

[last lagoon]

i kinda like the food expiration dates, i fell like is missing is a progression on food conservation, like freezer on MV~HV, i imagine something like EV and forward some new forms of food conservation

[last lagoon]

i kinda want to see player develop economy system using the tools that you already have in the modpack, so you can see banks and money focused public buildings on the long run, i think this kill a bit of the player creativity, i'm not very found of plugins

[minor oracle]

I didn't say turn them off, I said turn them down, so you don't go to bed and the next day all your food is rotten

the default configs are good for single player but not for large servers imo

[last lagoon]

yeah that's true, i'm happy with the food preservation being kept changing the configs will be great.

[glass quiver]

especially for grain

grain rots way too fast imo

[lost rapids]

It was very funny especially in the early game when you go away for a day and you come back and the server has advanced months and all your food is rotten

Prioritized livestock because they don't spontaneously decay away and the timeskip works in your favour

[last lagoon]

having to research food behavior for optimal storage and fulfillment

that was cool

[rigid spoke]

https://discord.gg/A55qteTv

Megacity

[icy gyro]

Ok

[icy gyro]

.

[storm fern]

https://discord.gg/Q9YpWnyPyJ

Updated the link to be permanent

[icy gyro]

server just wiped

so everyone do not destroy 50 blocs from 0 0

[rancid locust]

is it the afternoon today its open?

[icy gyro]

it wiped now

[rancid locust]

damn

is everyone still at spawn or smt

[icy gyro]

no worldborder at 100k

[rancid locust]

damn

is it inf ocean or just more continents

[icy gyro]

i just need to find it

[rancid locust]

is this going to have to be a issue we self resolve or ?

[icy gyro]

yes

[rancid locust]

any clue what the correct version is?

[icy gyro]

yes

update fimalife mod

[rancid locust]

ty

[icy gyro]

it is up rn

[icy gyro]

using custom pack now and it works

[rancid locust]

already underwater god bless

[pallid spruce]

how do i apply for the whitelist?

i think i found out why there is a whitelist. I am guessing that the world is being preloaded rn?

[storm fern]

yup

[pallid spruce]

makes sense

[storm fern]

1 chunk per 5 mins was not playable

[pallid spruce]

f

[icy gyro]

?

i died 3 times so more distance then cordinates show

eyyy

[rancid locust]

might be walked not swam idk

[icy gyro]

idk

[rancid locust]

dc?

wc

[icy gyro]

server down ?

[rancid locust]

i think so

also nice screenshot

[icy gyro]

i got tp back

[stark sentinel]

What's the IP btw?

[icy gyro]

Click on offical server button

I do hav the ip but i son.t remember and 🐸💤

[somber dragon]

anyone have any groups looking for members? I've made it to late IV and I want to try to finish the modpack this time

[icy gyro]

Well you can join (2nd world country)

But you need to travle east 50k for out temperary base

[steep fractal]

Haha me and Addie go 2nd world west, lets connect via rail at some point

[icy gyro]

I am gona make a wide rail from thw worldborder to the 2nd biggest group

[rancid locust]

where are u up to now @icy gyro

X coord

[icy gyro]

looking for kaolin clay

[rancid locust]

zamn

[rancid locust]

when you get to land think you can post the map so far?

[icy gyro]

sure

@rancid locust that is how far

[rancid locust]

what map is this?

[icy gyro]

there

look

@rancid locust

[rancid locust]

right

[icy gyro]

to big of a migae

[rancid locust]

no i mean how do you zoom out ingame to show ur loaded chunks

[icy gyro]

this

?

[rancid locust]

yeah

sorry got distracted

[icy gyro]

yes it is distenct horizen

[rancid locust]

is that your client or an extra mod

[icy gyro]

yes exstra mod

i hav around 40+ more mods then normal

hold the line

[rancid locust]

is that what your client is or is that seperate

[icy gyro]

my client

the longest contenent ever

[rancid locust]

damn