Sleep makes laptop unusuable | Arch Linux Community | Page 1

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 5:17 PM

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If I put the laptop to sleep through KDE, GNOME or systemctl suspend it won't wake up. The LED of the power button does stop flashing indicating it SHOULD be waking up. The screen does not power on again, tho. I have to shut it down with a long press.

The laptop is a lenovo LOQ 15arp9 with only a dGPU, a 4050 (6Gbs).

So far I've tested:
nvidia-open + linux
nvidia-open-dkms + linux
nvidia-open-dkms + linux-lts
nvidia-open-lts + linux-lts
nvidia + linux
nvidia-lts + linux
nouveau + linux
sshing into it while in the "waking" state, but it can't connect
updating the bios to the latest version
secure boot is disabled if that is important

I cannot read anything relating to suspension on journalctl on the arch instalation. I want to note that I have installed 3 times arch on this machine. Manual, archinstall and manual again. In neither sleep worked.
I can confirm linux mint does work.
But an Endeavour OS live ISO does not.
Is there a firmware package I am missing with arch?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:08 PM

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little oasis If I put the laptop to sleep through KDE, GNOME or systemctl suspend it won't wa...

Run this cat /sys/power/mem_sleep

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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low relic Run this `cat /sys/power/mem_sleep`

Apologies for my slowness, it reports [s2idle]

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no other options

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:44 PM

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little oasis Apologies for my slowness, it reports [s2idle]

Okay, do you use grub?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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yes, I do use grub

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which kernel parameter may I be missing?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Right, you need to add this mem_sleep_default=deep to your grub config like so
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash mem_sleep_default=deep"
And run sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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Don't use all of this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash mem_sleep_default=deep" just add mem..

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Allright, done
Imma try after a reboot

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s2idle no longer appears in brackets
the screen still does not turn on sadly

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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little oasis s2idle no longer appears in brackets the screen still does not turn on sadly

When you open the lid does the laptop turn on or not?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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The led reports its turning on but it doesn't

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So no

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:54 PM

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That could be a hardware issue, what DE/WM are you running?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:55 PM

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KDE plasma with sddm

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Wayland KDE if that is important to note

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 7:56 PM

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Okay, let find out if it's wayland related or not can try installing some other DE or WM.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 7:58 PM

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I can try to install kde xorg

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:00 PM

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little oasis I can try to install kde xorg

No, Plasma6 does not use X11 any more.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:01 PM

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plasma-x11-session does still exist tho

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:01 PM

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little oasis plasma-x11-session does still exist tho

Okay, you can try it.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:01 PM

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it didnt work, I can try i3 I suppose

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:02 PM

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little oasis it didnt work, I can try i3 I suppose

Yeah.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:04 PM

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Still black screen and no possible ssh connection

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:06 PM

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You have linux-firmware linux-headers installed, right?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:06 PM

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taking into account journalctl -b-1 -e doesn't show the laptop trying to wake up I assume it goes deeper than the gpu locking the whole system

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:06 PM

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low relic You have linux-firmware linux-headers installed, right?

I may not have linux-headers hold on

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I did not have that second package, I am going to try to reboot and see if it works on KDE wayland, x11 or i3

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:10 PM

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little oasis I did not have that second package, I am going to try to reboot and see if it wo...

Before rebooting run sudo mkinitcpio -P to regen the initramfs.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Allright, on it

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Plasma wayland is still broken
Plasma x11 is also broken
i3 is also broken

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I have noticed a "BIOS ACPI error on startup"

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I am going to retrieve it with journal ctl

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:15 PM

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little oasis I have noticed a "BIOS ACPI error on startup"

Take a screenshot.

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How old is the laptop?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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2024

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And the bios is updated to the latest version

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Okay, that does not tel me anything.
name, model ...

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Lenovo LOQ 15ARP9 (4050 RTX, 24GBs of ram, Rythen 7 7435HS)

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:19 PM

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Run cat /sys/power/state

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:20 PM

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reports: freeze mem disk

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:21 PM

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And this cat /proc/acpi/wakeup

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:23 PM

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[bley@gaymer ~]$ cat /proc/acpi/wakeup 
Device    S-state     Status   Sysfs node
GPP0     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:01.1
GPP5     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.1
GPP6     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.2
GP11     S3    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
GP12     S4    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
XHC0     S3    *enabled   pci:0000:05:00.3
XHC1     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:05:00.4
XHC2     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.0
NHI0     S0    *disabled
XHC3     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.3
NHI1     S0    *disabled
XHC4     S3    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.4```

lone saffronBOT Jul 31, 2025, 8:23 PM

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little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:23 PM

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I will have to go for a moment, apologies. I will be back very soon.

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 8:24 PM

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little oasis ``` [bley@gaymer ~]$ cat /proc/acpi/wakeup Device S-state Status Sysfs...

We are going to disable some wakeup devices (USB controllers) temporarily.
Run this:

echo XHC0 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup
echo XHC4 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup

And Rerun cat /proc/acpi/wakeup

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:47 PM

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I am back
the output is

Device    S-state     Status   Sysfs node
GPP0     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:01.1
GPP5     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.1
GPP6     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.2
GP11     S3    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
GP12     S4    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
XHC0     S3    *disabled  pci:0000:05:00.3
XHC1     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:05:00.4
XHC2     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.0
NHI0     S0    *disabled
XHC3     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.3
NHI1     S0    *disabled
XHC4     S3    *disabled  pci:0000:06:00.4```

lone saffronBOT Jul 31, 2025, 8:47 PM

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little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 8:47 PM

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Should I try to suspend now?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:07 PM

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It sadly did not work with just that

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also please disregard the last failed ssh attempt. I forgot to set it up on this particular install

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:23 PM

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Check BIOS for any “Sleep State”

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:24 PM

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I did several times but couldn't find anything with a similar name
Only instant boot which just tells the machine to boot on usb-c or AC power

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also AHA
I got the bios error, it was on dmesg
1: [ 2.342589] lenovo_wmi_hotkey_utilities CE6C0974-0407-4F50-88BA-4FC3B6559AD8: probe with driver lenovo_wmi_hotkey_utilities failed with error -5
2: [ 2.668411] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [\_SB.PCI0.GPP0.PEGP.GPS.NVD1], AE_NOT_FOUND (20240827/psargs-332) [ 2.668419] ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.PCI0.GPP0.PEGP.GPS due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20240827/psparse-529) [ 2.668426] ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.PCI0.GPP0.PEGP._DSM due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20240827/psparse-529)

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Okay, try this lets unloading Nvidia module before suspend sudo modprobe -r nvidia_drm nvidia_modeset nvidia_uvm nvidia
and run sudo systemctl suspend

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:32 PM

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allright, allthough there is no igpu, so it may crash

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modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia_drm is in use.

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it wont let me remove the modules

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important to note I tried to use the nouveau drivers too

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Make a script to load and unload the Nvidia stuff in /lib/systemd/system-sleep/nvidia-unload.sh

#!/bin/bash

case $1/$2 in
  pre/*)
    modprobe -r nvidia_drm nvidia_modeset nvidia_uvm nvidia 2>/dev/null
    ;;
  post/*)
    modprobe nvidia nvidia_uvm nvidia_modeset nvidia_drm 2>/dev/null
    ;;
esac

And make it executable sudo chmod +x /lib/systemd/system-sleep/nvidia-unload.sh

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:36 PM

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allright

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Then test it sudo systemctl suspend

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:38 PM

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low relic Make a script to load and unload the Nvidia stuff in `/lib/systemd/system-sleep/...

system-sleep does not exist as a directory

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oh apologies i read it wrong

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it does exist

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Okay.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:41 PM

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It didnt work sadly

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Did you reboot?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:45 PM

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yes

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was on wayland tho

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I will try on x

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Try i3 for X

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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I used it but it does not work

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Did close the lid and open it again?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:48 PM

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oh no, I am using systemctl suspend

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:48 PM

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Try suspending from a non-graphical environment, with Ctrl+Alt+F3

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:49 PM

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I tried on the live iso several times and it does not make a difference

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I want to point out again that sleep did work on linux mint, both on a live ISO and a complete install

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So I assume I am missing something

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:51 PM

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little oasis So I assume I am missing something

Yes.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:52 PM

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The issue is I do not know how to search for it
I don't know if it is kernel related or just simply a missing package
I want to thank you for all the help so far

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:53 PM

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Try this sudo systemctl disable nvidia-fallback.service and add this nouveau.blacklist=1 to the grub line and make the config for grub.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:54 PM

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nvidia fallback does not seem to exist on my system

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:55 PM

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little oasis nvidia fallback does not seem to exist on my system

Okay, just add that the other one to grub.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:55 PM

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Failed to disable unit: Unit nvidia-fallback.service does not exist```

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:55 PM

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low relic Okay, just add that the other one to grub.

done and remade config

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:56 PM

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little oasis The issue is I do not know how to search for it I don't know if it is kernel rel...

We’re trying to figure that out because the laptop is new, so it might have typical new laptop issues. As for Linux Mint, since it’s based on Ubuntu, it usually sets up the correct settings for you.

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:57 PM

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little oasis done and remade config

Reboot and close the lid.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:57 PM

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didnt close the lid but ran systemctl suspend, the result is still no screen

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i3 doesnt seem to go into sleep when I close the lid

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Remove that script from early.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:59 PM

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Removed

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 9:59 PM

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low relic We are going to disable some wakeup devices (USB controllers) temporarily. Run t...

what should this have done

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:01 PM

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little oasis what should this have done

That only disable USB wakeups.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:02 PM

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I see... The thing is I can't really wake from usb either way as the usbs get powered down

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:02 PM

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You can check again cat /proc/acpi/wakeup

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:03 PM

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after a reboot they re-enabled

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Check for errors journalctl -b -1 -e

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer systemd[1]: Starting NVIDIA system suspend actions...
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: p2p-dev-wlo1: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: p2p-dev-wlo1: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: nl80211: deinit ifname=p2p-dev-wlo1 disabled_11b_rates=0
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer suspend[865]: nvidia-suspend.service
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer logger[865]: <13>Jul 31 23:56:45 suspend: nvidia-suspend.service
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: wlo1: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: wlo1: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer wpa_supplicant[654]: nl80211: deinit ifname=wlo1 disabled_11b_rates=0
Jul 31 23:56:47 gaymer systemd[1]: nvidia-suspend.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jul 31 23:56:47 gaymer systemd[1]: Finished NVIDIA system suspend actions.
Jul 31 23:56:47 gaymer systemd[1]: Starting System Suspend...
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer systemd-sleep[874]: User sessions remain unfrozen on explicit request ($SYSTEMD_SLEEP_FREEZE_USER_SESSIO>
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer systemd-sleep[874]: This is not recommended, and might result in unexpected behavior, particularly
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer systemd-sleep[874]: in suspend-then-hibernate operations or setups with encrypted home directories.
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer (sd-exec-strv)[875]: /usr/lib/systemd/system-sleep/nvidia-unload.sh failed with exit status 1.
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer systemd-sleep[874]: Performing sleep operation 'suspend'...
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend entry (deep)
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend exit
Jul 31 23:56:48 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend entry (s2idle)```

lone saffronBOT Jul 31, 2025, 10:06 PM

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little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:07 PM

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I dont see any errors? besides the "user sessions"

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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Your laptop firmware only supports s2idle (shallow suspend), I don't think it support S3 that is why.
Nvidia + s2idle is known to cause black screen / no resume issues.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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That sounds pretty unresolvable...

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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little oasis ```Jul 31 23:56:45 gaymer systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Jul 31 23:56:45 gaym...

Did you remove the script and rebooted?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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I think so?

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I will do it again, since the file is 100% removed

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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Are you using the main kernel or something else (zen, lts)?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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main

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tried lts before

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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little oasis tried lts before

Is it the same?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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it was

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:14 PM

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Change the mem_sleep_default=deep to mem_sleep_default=s2idle in grub.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:14 PM

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Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd[1]: nvidia-suspend.service: Consumed 1.189s CPU time, 508.5M memory peak.
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd[1]: Starting System Suspend...
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd-sleep[2397]: User sessions remain unfrozen on explicit request ($SYSTEMD_SLEEP_FREEZE_USER_SESSI>
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd-sleep[2397]: This is not recommended, and might result in unexpected behavior, particularly
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd-sleep[2397]: in suspend-then-hibernate operations or setups with encrypted home directories.
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer systemd-sleep[2397]: Performing sleep operation 'suspend'...
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend entry (deep)
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend exit
Aug 01 00:11:31 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend entry (s2idle)``` 
Oh btw the output without the nvidia file

lone saffronBOT Jul 31, 2025, 10:14 PM

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low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:17 PM

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System tries PM: suspend entry (deep) (S3 sleep), but immediately does PM: suspend exit (fails). Then it falls back to PM: suspend entry (s2idle) (shallow sleep).

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:17 PM

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That makes a lot of sense actually

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:18 PM

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PM mean power management.

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Do you have swap?

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:19 PM

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8 GBs

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:20 PM

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Let's test if hibernation is the same or not

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:20 PM

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systemctl hybernate then?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:21 PM

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No, not yet.

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Get the uuid of the swap first with sudo blkid | grep swap

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:22 PM

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/dev/nvme0n1p2: UUID="6602384f-b898-49e2-bda2-c9e6dc60d9c0" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="07de91d5-15bd-4a3b-be7f-00bdceaca087"```

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important note, swap is smaller than RAM, is that an issue?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:23 PM

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Add this resume=UUID=6602384f-b898-49e2-bda2-c9e6dc60d9c0 in the grub cmdline.

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Don't forget sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg and reboot

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:24 PM

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allrighty

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:25 PM

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After reboot run sudo systemctl hibernate

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Your machine should power off, and then resume your session from swap when you power it back on.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:27 PM

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it did not... which is odd

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Check cat /etc/mkinitcpio.conf

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You should have resume and some other things

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:28 PM

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📎 message.txt

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greping for resume shows nothing

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:30 PM

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little oasis

No, you don't have resume there in the hooks line HOOKS=(base udev autodetect microcode modconf kms keyboard keymap consolefont block filesystems fsck)

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It should be like this HOOKS=(base udev autodetect microcode modconf kms keyboard keymap consolefont block resume filesystems fsck)

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:31 PM

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aight

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I rebuild the image

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and hybernate to see if it worked right?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:32 PM

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Place resume before filesystems after block

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And rebuild the image.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:33 PM

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allrighty, done

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:33 PM

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Reboot and test.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:35 PM

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okay it does hybernate correctly, thank you

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:35 PM

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little oasis okay it does hybernate correctly, thank you

That is great.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:36 PM

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Its a lot of progress tbh haha

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:37 PM

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little oasis Its a lot of progress tbh haha

Yeah, Try hybrid sleep (if you want faster wake) sudo systemctl hybrid-sleep

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:37 PM

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allright, lemme check

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:37 PM

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Hybrid sleep does suspend to RAM (fast wake).

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:38 PM

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oh wait
systemctl SLEEP does yield the result of just locking the KDE desktop

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so it doesnt suspend?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:39 PM

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You’re talking directly to systemd to trigger those power states.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:39 PM

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Yes

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:41 PM

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Check cat /etc/systemd/logind.conf

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:42 PM

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#NAutoVTs=6
#ReserveVT=6
#KillUserProcesses=no
#KillOnlyUsers=
#KillExcludeUsers=root
#InhibitDelayMaxSec=5
#UserStopDelaySec=10
#SleepOperation=suspend-then-hibernate suspend
#HandlePowerKey=poweroff
#HandlePowerKeyLongPress=ignore
#HandleRebootKey=reboot
#HandleRebootKeyLongPress=poweroff
#HandleSuspendKey=suspend
#HandleSuspendKeyLongPress=hibernate
#HandleHibernateKey=hibernate
#HandleHibernateKeyLongPress=ignore
#HandleLidSwitch=suspend
#HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=suspend
#HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
#HandleSecureAttentionKey=secure-attention-key
#PowerKeyIgnoreInhibited=no
#SuspendKeyIgnoreInhibited=no
#HibernateKeyIgnoreInhibited=no
#LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=yes
#RebootKeyIgnoreInhibited=no
#HoldoffTimeoutSec=30s
#IdleAction=ignore
#IdleActionSec=30min
#RuntimeDirectorySize=10%
#RuntimeDirectoryInodesMax=
#RemoveIPC=yes
#InhibitorsMax=8192
#SessionsMax=8192
#StopIdleSessionSec=infinity
#DesignatedMaintenanceTime=```

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:44 PM

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little oasis ```[Login] #NAutoVTs=6 #ReserveVT=6 #KillUserProcesses=no #KillOnlyUsers= #KillE...

Lets try uncommenting these lines

HandleSuspendKey=suspend
HandleLidSwitch=suspend
HandleHibernateKey=hibernate

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After that you simple run sudo systemctl restart systemd-logind

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:49 PM

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what is the expected behaviour for this?

low relic Jul 31, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Try to suspend again.

little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 10:51 PM

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nothing changed

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maybe it has to do with

Aug 01 01:01:22 gaymer systemd-sleep[1606]: This is not recommended, and might result in unexpected behavior, particularly
Aug 01 01:01:22 gaymer systemd-sleep[1606]: in suspend-then-hibernate operations or setups with encrypted home directories.```

lone saffronBOT Jul 31, 2025, 11:04 PM

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little oasis Jul 31, 2025, 11:49 PM

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its so weird that hybernation works but suspend doesnt

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I will sleep for now, gn

low relic Aug 1, 2025, 12:08 AM

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little oasis maybe it has to do with ```Aug 01 01:01:22 gaymer systemd-sleep[1606]: User sess...

In /etc/systemd/sleep.conf add FreezeUserSessions=yes like so:

[Sleep]
FreezeUserSessions=yes

And sudo systemctl restart systemd-logind

low relic Aug 1, 2025, 12:10 AM

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little oasis its so weird that hybernation works but suspend doesnt

Still figuring that out.

low relic Aug 1, 2025, 12:10 AM

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little oasis I will sleep for now, gn

Ok, gn.

little oasis Aug 1, 2025, 12:18 AM

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I couldnt sleep and tried one last thing on my own with https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DSDT and I could fix 1 of 2 errors in the bootup by telling the kernel to say "I am linux" to firmware
I will actually sleep now

little oasis Aug 1, 2025, 12:18 AM

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low relic In `/etc/systemd/sleep.conf` add `FreezeUserSessions=yes` like so: ```bash [Slee...

I will try as soon as I can

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Thank you

little oasis Aug 1, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Today I got busy and I may not be able to get to the laptop, apologies

low relic Aug 1, 2025, 9:40 PM

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little oasis Today I got busy and I may not be able to get to the laptop, apologies

No worries.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 4:35 PM

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low relic In `/etc/systemd/sleep.conf` add `FreezeUserSessions=yes` like so: ```bash [Slee...

instead of a sudo systemctl restart I did a complete reboot
wayland still has the issue
x11 still has the issue

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I am going to see journalctl

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forgot to update but its the same as before
It reaches sleep but does not wake up

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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I suspect it might have to do with ACPI as mint does not show a big red error but a more "relaxed" warning of an argument missmatch

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:30 PM

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little oasis I suspect it might have to do with ACPI as mint does not show a big red error bu...

Not sure about that, it could be just a bios update.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:31 PM

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Juging by the fact the problematic ACPI symbol is [\_SB.PCI0.GPP0.PEGP.GPS.NVD1] AE_NOT_FOUND it may be? it sounds like it is the gpu

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Damn, Discord doesn’t have a way to export that chat conversation so I can search it.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:33 PM

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Yeah... Discord is a bit hard to search through

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:33 PM

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little oasis Juging by the fact the problematic ACPI symbol is \[\\\_SB.PCI0.GPP0.PEGP.GPS.**...

Maybe, it could the GPU power manager thing that is not letting the laptop wake up.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Maybe it is indeed the GPU power manager

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But idk how to properly fix the ACPI table, DSDT, or... module I may be missing???

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Is there any system that you have installed before that wake up worked on it?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Linux Mint

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So I assume ubuntu-based should work

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:36 PM

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little oasis But idk how to properly fix the ACPI table, DSDT, or... module I may be missing?...

Probably to reinstall Arch should fix it, maybe check the bios firmware version.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:37 PM

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It is the latest one I could do

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:37 PM

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little oasis So I assume ubuntu-based *should* work

Yeah, I think if it worked on linux mint it's going to work on ubuntu.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:38 PM

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low relic Probably to reinstall Arch should fix it, maybe check the bios firmware version.

It would be the 4th install of arch I do tho... So I think it has to do with a missing module

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:38 PM

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little oasis It is the latest one I could do

When you installed the LTS kernel did you rebuild the initramfs and updated grub to use the LTS one?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:39 PM

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I did not rebuild it manually as the pacman hook should do it automatically and I used the lts kernel yes

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:40 PM

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little oasis It would be the 4th install of arch I do tho... So I think it has to do with a m...

Yeah, it’s because of how new the laptop is — you said it’s from 2025, so I wouldn’t expect any modules on Arch any time soon.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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At least I know hybernate works flawlessly thanks to you

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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little oasis I did not rebuild it manually as the pacman hook should do it automatically and ...

Yeah, and no grub does not pick it up by default.

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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little oasis At least I know hybernate works flawlessly thanks to you

Yeah.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:42 PM

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it did say "loading linux-lts"

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:42 PM

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low relic Yeah.

Thank you again for that btw

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low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:42 PM

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little oasis it did say "loading linux-lts"

Okay, that is good.

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:44 PM

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little oasis it did say "loading linux-lts"

I’m going to check what modules are being used by Linux Mint and get back to you on that.
Because they could be using a specific version of the Linux kernel and the Linux firmware, as well as the headers.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Thank you

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It is linux mint 22.1 "Xia"

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:45 PM

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little oasis It is linux mint 22.1 "Xia"

Yeah, okay.

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Can you just run cat /proc/acpi/wakeup again.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:49 PM

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On mint or arch?

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GPP0     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:01.1
GPP5     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.1
GPP6     S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:02.2
GP11     S3    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
GP12     S4    *disabled
SWUS     S4    *disabled
XHC0     S3    *enabled   pci:0000:05:00.3
XHC1     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:05:00.4
XHC2     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.0
NHI0     S0    *disabled
XHC3     S0    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.3
NHI1     S0    *disabled
XHC4     S3    *enabled   pci:0000:06:00.4```

lone saffronBOT Aug 2, 2025, 5:50 PM

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little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Arch output

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:54 PM

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Install evtest and run sudo evtest

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:55 PM

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little oasis Arch output

(Same on mint after a quick check)

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:55 PM

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low relic Install `evtest` and run `sudo evtest`

on it

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No device specified, trying to scan all of /dev/input/event*
Available devices:
/dev/input/event0:    Power Button
/dev/input/event1:    Lid Switch
/dev/input/event10:    ELAN06FA:00 04F3:327E Touchpad
/dev/input/event11:    HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=3
/dev/input/event12:    HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=7
/dev/input/event13:    HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=8
/dev/input/event14:    HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=9
/dev/input/event15:    HD-Audio Generic Mic
/dev/input/event16:    HD-Audio Generic Headphone
/dev/input/event2:    Video Bus
/dev/input/event3:    Video Bus
/dev/input/event4:    AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
/dev/input/event5:    ITE Tech. Inc. ITE Device(8176) Keyboard
/dev/input/event6:    ITE Tech. Inc. ITE Device(8176) Wireless Radio Control
/dev/input/event7:    PC Speaker
/dev/input/event8:    Ideapad extra buttons
/dev/input/event9:    ELAN06FA:00 04F3:327E Mouse```

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(without sudo no devices appeared)

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:57 PM

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little oasis (Same on mint after a quick check)

Maybe Mint used a kernel with some specific patches or ACPI quirks enabled.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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Yeah...
Perhaps I am mistaken and its not the ACPI device

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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little oasis ```[bley@gaymer ~]$ sudo evtest No device specified, trying to scan all of /dev...

Good, now run sudo evtest /dev/input/event1 and physically close and open the lid and watch the terminal output.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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little oasis ```Device S-state Status Sysfs node GPP0 S4 *enabled pci:0000:...

GPP0 corresponds to a host bridge

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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low relic Good, now run `sudo evtest /dev/input/event1` and physically close and open the ...

allright, should I make it so that it does not suspend first?

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:01 PM

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little oasis allright, should I make it so that it does not suspend first?

Just close it and open it again.

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No need to suspend.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:03 PM

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It autosuspended, I think I need to disable the lid suspend on systemd

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:06 PM

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little oasis It autosuspended, I think I need to disable the lid suspend on systemd

You can save the output of the command sudo evtest /dev/input/event1 | tee lid-evtest.txt

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:06 PM

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I do want to point out the lid detection did work fine if I am not too fast

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:07 PM

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low relic You can save the output of the command `sudo evtest /dev/input/event1 | tee lid-...

gonna do that now

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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little oasis I do want to point out the lid detection did work fine if I am not too fast

When you close it?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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yep

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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How about when you open it?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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When I reopen it "tries" to wake

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OH
It did detect the reopening and could write it to the file

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I want to also note the LTS kernel does solve an unrelated issue with something relating to "ideapad_hotkeys"

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:10 PM

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little oasis When I reopen it _"tries"_ to wake

Check journalctl -b -1 | grep -i suspend

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:11 PM

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little oasis I want to also note the LTS kernel does solve an unrelated issue with something ...

Okay.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:11 PM

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Aug 02 20:07:52 gaymer systemd-logind[599]: The system will suspend now!
Aug 02 20:07:53 gaymer systemd[1]: Starting NVIDIA system suspend actions...
Aug 02 20:07:53 gaymer suspend[1342]: nvidia-suspend.service
Aug 02 20:07:53 gaymer logger[1342]: <13>Aug  2 20:07:53 suspend: nvidia-suspend.service
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd[1]: nvidia-suspend.service: Deactivated successfully.
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd[1]: Finished NVIDIA system suspend actions.
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd[1]: nvidia-suspend.service: Consumed 958ms CPU time, 380.4M memory peak.
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd[1]: Starting System Suspend...
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd-sleep[1381]: in suspend-then-hibernate operations or setups with encrypted home directories.
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer systemd-sleep[1381]: Performing sleep operation 'suspend'...
Aug 02 20:07:55 gaymer kernel: PM: suspend entry (s2idle)```

lone saffronBOT Aug 2, 2025, 6:11 PM

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little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:12 PM

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Output of the command

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:18 PM

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Yeah, it still shows s2idle

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:18 PM

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yeah

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:20 PM

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I think when you close the lid, it takes a long time for the computer to go to sleep, and something stops running before that, so the process doesn’t finish.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:23 PM

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That makes sense, I will be slow with the opening and closing.
Allthough suspending without any lid interaction does lead to the same result of not working

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:26 PM

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little oasis That makes sense, I will be slow with the opening and closing. Allthough suspend...

Yeah, what is the kernel version that you have?

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Just run uname -a

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:28 PM

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linux 6.15.8.arch1-2
linux-lts 6.12.40-2

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:28 PM

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low relic Just run `uname -a`

Linux gaymer 6.12.40-2-lts #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 29 Jul 2025 15:21:52 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:28 PM

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I am trying to use the normal one

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I have both to swap and test whenever you ask me to try to do something in tls rather than upstream

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:30 PM

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little oasis Linux gaymer 6.12.40-2-lts #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 29 Jul 2025 15:21:52 +000...

Yeah, is update with the kernel versions, not like other systems. do yo know what linux mint is using when you installed it?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:31 PM

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no, but I can boot the live iso

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:31 PM

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little oasis no, but I can boot the live iso

Yeah. okay.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Linux mint 6.8.0-51-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DUMA;OC Thu Dec 5 13:09:44 UTC 2024 x86_64 x_86_64 x_86_64 GNU/Linux

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low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:35 PM

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little oasis Linux mint 6.8.0-51-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DUMA;OC Thu Dec 5 13:09:44 UT...

Yeah, that is probably why it was working on linux mint.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Allthough the updated kernel (post-install) did work too

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Basically It could be working on 6.8.0 6.9.0

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I could test it with downgrade right?

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:40 PM

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little oasis I could test it with downgrade right?

Yes, you can try and rebuild the initramfs and update grub.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:41 PM

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done, gonna try now with the downgrade (after a reboot)

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dmesg output is the same as the mint live ISO

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Trying to wake it up after sleeping results on the same no-backlight no-screen state

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:44 PM

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little oasis Trying to wake it up after sleeping results on the same no-backlight no-screen s...

On mint?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Nono, on arch with linux-6.9.arch1

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:45 PM

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little oasis Nono, on arch with linux-6.9.arch1

Try the other one 6.8

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:45 PM

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allrighty

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current version of nvidia-open is not working with such an old kernel

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Same result as before while trying to wake

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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How about 6.10.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:53 PM

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No change, Nvidia is broken (and nouveau is blacklisted) and it doesn't wake

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no errors on ACPI tho

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 6:54 PM

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Basically just keep trying other kernel version 6.11, 6.12

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Allright I will report if anything changes or until I run out of them

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I want to report a small observation I noticed while checking if nvidia is in use and that is that several devices use "xhci_hcd" which is pretty similar to "xhci_pci" so I might be missing firmware on the install?

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 7:01 PM

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little oasis I want to report a small observation I noticed while checking if nvidia is in us...

If it is when you run mkinitcpio is normal.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 7:02 PM

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I meant on the actual "kernel module in use" in the lspci table

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 7:03 PM

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Yeah, that is a pretty old module.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 7:06 PM

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xhci_pci is mentioned as another module available to several devices

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I think I will take a small detour with firmware as the 6.11 was not successful at all

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 7:15 PM

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It should work regardless of that.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 7:16 PM

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Oh then I am going back to the usual testing

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testing 6.12 I somehow made it not fully sleep and it woke up
Second attempt has been the usual black screen

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I havent gotten the nvidia drivers to drive the gpu again
Maybe that is part of the issue
Also boot times are significantly worse

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Nothing on 6.13 and 6.14

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I can't go back to the new kernel so I should reinstall arch again

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:09 PM

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little oasis I can't go back to the new kernel so I should reinstall arch again

If it’s not too much trouble, you can try Void Linux to see if the same thing happens. The installation is pretty easy.

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Get the XFCE version.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Oh oki I could try

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I am putting the iso in my ventoy usb still so it may take a while

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In the live ISO the suspend results in a black screen

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I dont really know how to install it lol

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I just saw the guide I will try to install it

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:43 PM

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little oasis I dont really know how to install it lol

Just login as root and the passwd is voidlinux.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:43 PM

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I am in

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Just run void-installer

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Check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p19jkBGceao

YouTube

alphab91

Void Linux 2025 Release installation.

Downloading and installing the latest release of Void Linux with the Xfce4 edition.
https://voidlinux.org

▶ Play video

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:49 PM

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low relic Just run `void-installer`

just finished configuring it to install

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:50 PM

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little oasis just finished configuring it to install

Okay.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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I should enable acpid right?

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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little oasis I should enable acpid right?

Yes, I think it's enabled by default.

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After the install you do need to update the system.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:52 PM

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It wasn't that is why I asked. I also had it enabled in the arch install towards the end

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:52 PM

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little oasis It wasn't that is why I asked. I also had it enabled in the arch install towards...

Okay.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:53 PM

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low relic After the install you do need to update the system.

May I ask which package manager does this use?

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 8:54 PM

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little oasis May I ask which package manager does this use?

It's xbps to update you need to run sudo xbps-install -S && sudo xbps-install -u xbps && sudo xbps-install -Su

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Just run that full command.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 8:56 PM

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It's running, updating

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done, do I restart and check suspending?

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blank screen

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before going back to arch I will try with propiertary drivers

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https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/graphical-session/graphics-drivers/nvidia.html its not letting me install nvidia

NVIDIA - Void Linux Handbook

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important note
the block key leds do not work when "trying" to wake

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 9:19 PM

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Did you reboot?

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 9:20 PM

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I couldnt download the nvidia package as "it does not exist"

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 9:21 PM

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If does not work without the drives it's not going to work with them.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 9:22 PM

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That's true... Nouveau and propiertary drivers worked on mint (and by extension we assume ubuntu)

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 9:22 PM

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little oasis That's true... Nouveau and propiertary drivers worked on mint (and by extension ...

Yes.

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Anything that is based on ubuntu It has to work.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 9:24 PM

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I suppose I should either refrain from using either arch or sleep then

low relic Aug 2, 2025, 9:26 PM

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little oasis I suppose I should either refrain from using either arch or sleep then

You can try dual-booting Arch and Mint until there’s some kind of solution.

little oasis Aug 2, 2025, 9:28 PM

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low relic You can try dual-booting Arch and Mint until there’s some kind of solution.

Thank you, I suppose it would be a the best "solution" for now. Thank you for taking your time to help me and proposing so many possible solutions even if we couldn't do it in the end.

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low relic Aug 2, 2025, 9:29 PM

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little oasis Thank you, I suppose it would be a the best "solution" for now. Thank you for ta...

No problem, glad I could help a little bit.

little oasis Aug 3, 2025, 8:55 AM

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I would like to tag this as "solved" if that is something that is done here too. They posted this after I went to sleep last night.
As on reddit another person with my exact laptop found a way to make it work. The issue was indeed related to pcie power mangement. Turning pcie_aspm=off solves the issue at the cost of increased power consumption.
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1me3l4q/comment/n6m53wd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button