#[SOLVED!] Cant boot back to arch, made a big mistake.

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mossy nebula
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I use Arch Hyprland for quite a while now and no issues so far. I decided to delete windows and extend my storage. I used gparted to delete the partition and now I need to use gparted live to extend the drive. The problem is, i dont have a usb. I asked chatgpt if its possible to boot gparted live without a usb. they messed up and I ended up stupidly following the method and now I cant boot back to arch at all. When i boot up the laptop it shows grub with the gparted live iso. When I boot to it, it just shows a lot of errors. When I boot arch through bios it just shows the same grub menu. Is there a way to boot back to arch or atleast wipe and reinstall? I really need this laptop in friday and I hope I can get help.

karmic echo
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So, it is still impossible for you to get a USB with Arch installation media on?

mossy nebula
karmic echo
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But is it impossible or just inconvenient for you to get one?

mossy nebula
karmic echo
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So you don't have any friends who have a USB stick you can borrow?

ivory mist
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How did you get Arch onto your computer if you don't have a USB?

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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Okay

karmic echo
# mossy nebula Nopem

Ok, it is going to be a rather long and painful journey then to recover this. But if you have grub running on the system, you can go into the console mode of grub and then manually enter the needed boot records.

mossy nebula
karmic echo
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Yes

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But... I don't know your system and every time I had needed to do this, it took me a lot of attempts to get things right so I don't have enough skills in this matter, to be able to remotely help you with this

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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Not having a liveusb makes this a lot trickier

stuck kiln
mossy nebula
karmic echo
ivory mist
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Do you have an optical drive? :3

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
karmic echo
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@mossy nebula Expect to at least spend multiple hours to go through this process...

knotty kite
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I know that's probably a bullshit, but

mossy nebula
ivory mist
stuck kiln
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The trick here is getting into any sort of linux OS. That's the tricky part

knotty kite
stuck kiln
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After that it'll be a 4-5 command job to fix this I reckon

ivory mist
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yeah

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@mossy nebula is your phone rooted by any chance

karmic echo
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stuck kiln
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Yep, emergency shell hacking (especially over discord) sounds like the 8th level of hell

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does gparted boot?

ivory mist
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there's no gparted

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oh there is

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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If gparted boots then that's debian in a hat so you might, might maybe maybe be able to work with that

karmic echo
stuck kiln
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When I was a teenager I once ran dban against my dad's drive of holiday photos

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Believe me, you will be ok

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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Plus there's nothing wrong with the machine at all, just the software. This can all be fixed

karmic echo
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Also... not having access to any USB stick would be terrible in any recovery situation and I can't believe you run Arch without any way to recover...

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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"i broke the laptop but i can fix it, i just need the usb"

mossy nebula
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If I get a usb, what do I do after? Ill try my best to ask my brother

karmic echo
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"Sorry, in my attempt of getting smarter with computers, I accidentally made a upsiwupsi where I can no longer get into the laptop. I fully understand the problem and how to fix it, but I need a USB stick to fix it"

karmic echo
stuck kiln
mossy nebula
ivory mist
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it does

stuck kiln
karmic echo
mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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Important thing to realise here is that your arch install is totally safe, nothing has happened to it. Just the booting situation has been broken, which is very simple in comparison

karmic echo
mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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Linux is nice like this. It's easy to break, but also very easy to fix

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Just gotta put the things it needs where it expects to find them

karmic echo
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@mossy nebula You might need to promise your brother some kind of offering like a piece of cake or ice cream depending on your relationship πŸ˜„

stuck kiln
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I want some too 🫴

mossy nebula
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ivory mist
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depends on the damage

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but we'll guide you anyway

stuck kiln
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If you follow the installation guide closely then you should end up with a happily installed and bootable system

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A few of those steps might already be completed or unnecessary, but it pays to make sure

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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it lets you boot

stuck kiln
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You'll be fixing your current install

ivory mist
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it doesn't create anything unless you tell it to

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it does whatever you say

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in your case, this guide shouldn't be followed step-by-step - because then you obviously would just install another arch onto your computer

mossy nebula
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Also what usb do I need, just a normal usb thats enough to hold the iso?

ivory mist
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at least 2 GB

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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But again, it's up to you

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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I would just backup my hyprland configs, then clean install the system with BTRFS and snapper

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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it's kind of related so i get the point

shrewd kraken
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But for the sake of tux, never use chatbots ever again

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Also, you will and must keep a ventoy usb with your distro iso on it to fix your issues

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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chatgpt can provide valid information, but only if you feed it with the same quality of information

shrewd kraken
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You can chroot and fix the mess, chroot and copy your configs then reinstall arch, or just straight install another distro

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Arch iso boots to a tty

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Don't expect a live desktop

ivory mist
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you want to just install another distro?

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fresh install?

shrewd kraken
ivory mist
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no shit

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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what about your data?

shrewd kraken
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And I bet OP stole the hyprland configs from a random repo

ivory mist
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okay so what

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there's no need for a guilt trip

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Nobody prosecuting OP here, as I want them to learn from the mess

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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okay. then you can just get the usb prepared with the distro of your choice

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no arch

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and then just back up the data from there

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and install the distro

shrewd kraken
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Unless you want another distro

ivory mist
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you won't need another drive to back up

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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good, so just get them somewhere safe - persistent usb storage, cloud, a small separate partition or something

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once you boot into the installer of the distro of your choice

shrewd kraken
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Afaik, fedora is using BTRFS ootb nowadays

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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This is good for this kind of issue but requires user to have knowledge and skills

shrewd kraken
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Eg, Linux mint/fedora

mossy nebula
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I will most likely go back to ubuntu or fedora. I mained ubuntu for months

shrewd kraken
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You need ventoy

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.aw ventoy

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shrewd kraken
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... ventoy

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shrewd kraken
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This is how I have arch, gparted live ISO, and more tools in 1 USB

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Not to detriment OP, but this case in a nutshell

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... newhypr

shrewd kraken
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Good thing that it's fixable

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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So go get a flash drive, ventoy and the distro iso you want to install and use to recover data

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Or even better, bazzite

mossy nebula
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I actually tried booting bazzite before, it just gave me errors

shrewd kraken
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Ubuntu is not that good anymore

stuck kiln
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Ubuntu is a very opinionated distro, not really the best for learning imo

shrewd kraken
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That is, if you do gaming

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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This will help to recommend a distro and DE

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Oh, Nvidia

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This explains a lot

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Bazzite offers great Nvidia experience

shrewd kraken
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Bazzite literally has an Nvidia dedicated ISO

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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For the ram, that depends on the distro
Arch offers zram

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But kde plasma will do fine

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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Its night rn for me so

shrewd kraken
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You can have bazzite, nobara and Linux mint isos on a single ventoy drive and try them all

karmic echo
shrewd kraken
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Because bazzite is noob proof

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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You can't break bazzite

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Like.. you can't get this thread issue in bazzite due to how it's built

karmic echo
mossy nebula
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Also my laptop is too old to support the steam game mode thing, so only the dekstop

shrewd kraken
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Thing is, get bazzite, Nobara and Linux mint isos then try them all.
You can use any of those to recover your data then install

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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But it will boot fine with ventoy

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I already mentioned other distros to try

mossy nebula
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Sorry for dissapearing, I have a lot of assignments to do. Can anyone give a usb recommendation? My brother will ask my mom to buy one

mossy nebula
stuck kiln
mossy nebula
stuck kiln
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Sandisk is a sold brand

mossy nebula
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Whats a recommended size

stuck kiln
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Anything lower than 8 you're just sorta scamming yourself paying for the packaging πŸ˜„

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Memory is pretty dirt cheap these days

mossy nebula
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stuck kiln
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For an iso stick I'd say 16 or 32 gb as then you will never have trouble with space

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8gb is a bit small if you ever end up wanting to install windows or something

mossy nebula
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Thanks

mossy nebula
ivory mist
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yes

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literally anything should do

mossy nebula
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thanks, ill buy it and try it out

ivory mist
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unless it's somehow a knockoff or somethin

stuck kiln
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I have some of those exact ones but in fetching fluorescent colours

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seem ok 🀷

mossy nebula
ivory mist
mossy nebula
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aight

mossy nebula
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Ordered the usb and it should arrive today. So all I need to do is

  • Install Ventoy on the usb
  • Put the bazzite ISO and gparted live to the usb
  • boot on my laptop
  • install bazzite
  • Take the folders I need from arch partition
    -Wipe out arch and resize with gparted
shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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so when you reboot without installing, bazzite won't be there

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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yes, you need not just the usb flash drive, but another HDD/SSD or upload to a cloud storage

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then, you can actually wipe the drive and install bazzite

mossy nebula
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Its just 2 folders worth barely 3gb, the rest arent important since I keep my data on my phone

shrewd kraken
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you don't want to be like me, with 700 GiB worth of data, and your main HDD starting to fail, omen of sudden data loss

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redundant backups are a must

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it's not adviced to store all your data on your main drive, where your OS lives

mossy nebula
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Also, theres like 150 gb unallocated space in my laptop since i failed to extend my drive, is it possible to install bazzite there and wipe out arch from there?

shrewd kraken
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if the main drive with eg, bazzite fails, you may lose not just bazzite but all your data

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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so you better get an external HDD for backups in the future

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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good thing is that bazzite is like arch, regarding docs. they have great documentation

shrewd kraken
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in the future, if you ever need windows, you can make a windows to go external usb SSD/HDD

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for that, you can use rufus on a windows VM

mossy nebula
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shrewd kraken
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that's how I managed to upgrade the UEFI of a laptop I was fixing and also get the GPU color profiles and IRS audio

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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USB 3.2+ HDD/SSD is best for this

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that way you can keep your Linux install as main, then just plug the Windows to go, boot, do your thing, power off, unplug, go back to your main Linux

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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if you dual boot, do it with 2 drives

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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KDE plasma is easier than gnome

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also don't use beta isos

mossy nebula
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shrewd kraken
shrewd kraken
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I already explained what to do

mossy nebula
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mossy nebula
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Got the usb and im downloading ventoy now

shrewd kraken
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Idk what OS will you use to make the ventoy usb

mossy nebula
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I finished downloading

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Is this correct?

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Do I press test this media & install or just install?

mossy nebula
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shrewd kraken
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Stop

mossy nebula
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I know

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Thats why i havent installed

shrewd kraken
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You have to use bazzite to get your data

shrewd kraken
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It should have a live desktop

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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Yes

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Idk what boot options it has but look for a live desktop, like test bazzite

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Not install bazzite

mossy nebula
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It had test & install and install

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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So you can open a file manager to get your data

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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It sends me straight to an installer, so I need another iso?

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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Alright

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This one?

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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Alright

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Its downloading, ill update when im back on my laptop

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The teacher said that if I fix this she'll grade this instead of the work shes supposed to give me

mossy nebula
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Which do I choose?
Start linux mint
Start linux mint (compatibility mode)

shrewd kraken
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it will boot to a desktop

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from it, open file manager and open your arch drive

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then backup your data

mossy nebula
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Alright

shrewd kraken
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you can open firefox, and stream on VC

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like, open firefox, login to discord, screenshare on VC

mossy nebula
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Ill send it to gdrive since i dont have an ssd

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Rn its just loading I think

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Im in the desktop

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Got in the file manager, I can open my drive

shrewd kraken
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backup to gdrive then

mossy nebula
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Aight

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Its downloading now, might take like 20 minutes cause my laptop's network driver is old

mossy nebula
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Yep πŸ’”

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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Its still uploading

shrewd kraken
mossy nebula
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after i finish the upload do I go to gparted?

shrewd kraken
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this is why ventoy is so goated, have several distros/iso tools on 1 flash drive

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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unless you actually want to manually wipe

mossy nebula
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shrewd kraken
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it should erase the entire drive then install bazzite

mossy nebula
shrewd kraken
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let it do it's thing

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once it finishes, it should prompt for a reboot, then enjoy your new system

mossy nebula
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I decided to redo the process and do the partitioning myself. Hopefully it works

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The error is gone but this popped up like 10 minutes after

mossy nebula
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I've fixed everything and now my laptop is back to working, thanks for everyone that helped here. Ill mark this as solved.

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[SOLVED!] Cant boot back to arch, made a big mistake.

shrewd kraken
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sorry was afk and you never pinged me

mossy nebula
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Thanks for the help