Internet

[frozen herald]

I’ve installed Archlinux recently, and for some reason reason I can’t connect to the internet. Yes, I have installed and enabled the network manager. I've also tried reconfiguring it using the wiki.

When I tried connecting to WiFi manually, this was the response:

Error: 802-11-wireless-security.key-mgmt: property is missing.

Or that no secrets were provided(?)

[frozen herald]

Sorry if I seem clueless, just in advance, I'm new to this

[old mortar]

@frozen herald did you get a backend ie iwd?

[frozen herald]

Nope, I didn't

[old mortar]

@frozen herald iwctl

[frozen herald]

Just freezes on "Waiting for IWD to start..."

[old mortar]

@frozen herald control c

[frozen herald]

Terminated it

[old mortar]

sudo systemctl enable --now iwd

[frozen herald]

Command not found

[old mortar]

which one?

[frozen herald]

sudo: system: command not found

Oh my bad

I'm stupid lmfao

Created symlink @old mortar

[old mortar]

now iwctl

[old mortar]

station wlan0 connect "namehere"

[frozen herald]

No error just nothing haopens

[old mortar]

photo please

[frozen herald]

Is it because NetworkConfigurationEnabled is disabled?

[old mortar]

this is normal

station wlan0 show

[frozen herald]

Can I dm you the picture?

[old mortar]

exit

ping -c3 archlinux.org

[frozen herald]

Temporary failure in name resolution

@old mortar you still there man?

[old mortar]

no

[frozen herald]

As in you no longer know what to do?

Thanks anyways bro

[old mortar]

no

@frozen herald can you censor station wlan0 show?

[frozen herald]

Sure

@old mortar

[old mortar]

you need to install dhcp

[frozen herald]

sudo pacman -S isc-dshp-server?

[old mortar]

in the chroot pacman -S dhcp

[frozen herald]

I know this probably sounds stupid, but what’s the chroot?

[old mortar]

@frozen herald https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot#Prepare_new_root_location

[frozen herald]

So, I mounted the partitions, what else should I do?

[old mortar]

photo please

[old mortar]

@frozen herald that's not in a chroot

you need to be in the iso

[frozen herald]

Yeah I thought of that too, how do I enter the iso?

[old mortar]

boot from the usb

[frozen herald]

@old mortar Like during a manual install? I initially used the automatic installer

[old mortar]

from the iso in the usb

[frozen herald]

I don’t get it

[old mortar]

@frozen herald reboot

plug the usb in

boot into the iso

[frozen herald]

I’m doing that, I’m now in the ISO, just waiting for it to load

Sorry if I’m being stupid

@old mortar okay it’s loaded

[old mortar]

photo please

[old mortar]

@frozen herald now chroot

[frozen herald]

mount hierarchies in the partitions?

[old mortar]

You need to know what filesystem you're using before chroot

As chroot is different if you use ext4 or BTRFS

[frozen herald]

I use ext4 I believe

[old mortar]

Use lsblk -f

That will tell what filesystem you use

[frozen herald]

Yeah ext4

[old mortar]

.aw chroot

[bitter sleet]

Chroot

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot

[old mortar]

Send a shot

If ext4, just mount the root and esp

[old mortar]

Be sure to connect to internet before chroot

[frozen herald]

I mounted the partitions @old mortar @old mortar

[old mortar]

@frozen herald that's not mounting

[old mortar]

You didn't

Connect to the internet first

[frozen herald]

I have

Then I wrote the mount command

This one

[old mortar]

Omg you don't mount both partitions to the same path

[frozen herald]

i’m stupid

What am I supposed to do

[old mortar]

Start over

[frozen herald]

Reboot the iso again?

[old mortar]

Also why are you installing DHCP?
Just connect to the internet

[old mortar]

Yes

[frozen herald]

I don't have it , that's the problem with the internet after installation

[old mortar]

Then once booted, connect to the internet

[old mortar]

You don't install it into the iso

The iso has everything to connect

[frozen herald]

Okay, I'm rebooting

[old mortar]

@old mortar scroll up

[frozen herald]

First I connect to the internet, and then?

[old mortar]

They are not in chroot so they were installing DHCP to the iso

Which is not required

[old mortar]

Yes, then ping to test it

If using WiFi, use iwctl

Ethernet should work ootb

[frozen herald]

Wouldn't it be easier to just check if I have an IP address?

[old mortar]

No, just connect

[old mortar]

Steps are as follows:
Connect to internet with iwctl
Ping to test
Mount partitions
Chroot
Fix your issue

[frozen herald]

How do I mount and what exactly is "chroot"?

Because when I mounted, you told me to not do it to the same paths, so what was I supposed to do rather than what I did

[old mortar]

.aw chroot

[bitter sleet]

Chroot

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot

[old mortar]

Tells how

[old mortar]

You're supposed to mount your ESP to your boot path, and your root to /mnt

Which depends on your system

[frozen herald]

Okay, I connected to the internet, pinged to test, and now what I'm reading is essentially running this command:

‘# mount /dev/nvme0nXpY /mnt’

for each of my partitions, no?

[old mortar]

That's to mount your root
You need to mount your ESP too but to the right place

Idk what's your mounting point for your ESP

[frozen herald]

Neither do I tbh

[old mortar]

Some mount it to /boot/esp
Others to /boot

[old mortar]

You should know your mounting points
How did you install Arch?

If Archinstall, it mounts to /boot

[frozen herald]

Archinstall

[old mortar]

Then your esp has to be mounted to /mnt/boot

[frozen herald]

So for my first partition, which I believe is for my ESP, I do /mnt/boot?

"# mount /dev/nvme0nXpY /mnt/boot"

[old mortar]

The ESP always is the FAT32 partition

[frozen herald]

Yeah, my first partition

[old mortar]

You mount it there

[frozen herald]

And for my other two?

[old mortar]

Then you mount your root to /mnt

Idk what's the other partition you have

But you only need your root and ESP to be mounted

[frozen herald]

The /mnt/boot/ mount point doesn't exist

[old mortar]

My guess is that you asked archinstall to make a separate home partition

[frozen herald]

Is the root the second partition?

[frozen herald]

I have, yes.

[old mortar]

Idk, I'm guessing

As you should be the one knowing

[old mortar]

You create it

[frozen herald]

@old mortar Is the root partition usually the one that's smaller than your larger partition?

[old mortar]

Idk
That's up to the way you setup your system

[frozen herald]

Okay, last question is this because I'm seriously thinking about just manually installing arch all over again.

Is this a way to mount your root?

[old mortar]

You don't need to. Just know which partition is which

[old mortar]

I guess your P2 is root, so mount it to /mnt

Then arch-chroot /mnt

From there you're inside your system and do what @old mortar says

[frozen herald]

Okay did everything, now installed the dhcp

@old mortar Thanks, you've been a big help

[simple hound]

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[frozen herald]

@old mortar After I install the dhcp, do I just exist the arch-chroot?

[old mortar]

Did the shell changed?

It should not have red colors but be white

That means you're in chroot

Then do the changes you need on your system to fix the issue

Once done, run exit and reboot commands

Then check if your internet works

[frozen herald]

Yeah it is

[old mortar]

Then follow killer tofu steps to fix the issue

Read the rest I typed

[frozen herald]

I have exited and rebooted, the problem with the internet seems to be still happening though

[old mortar]

Ask killertofu then

But at least you know how to chroot

[frozen herald]

I ended up doing a manual install, do you have any idea how to make my user sudo?

[old mortar]

.aw sudo