#[SOLVED] Headphones never work [Wired JACK]

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inland dawn
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my headphones always stop working after about 3 days of installing arch,
and they never work again, all other audio devices work, like speakers and bluetooth audio.

Ive tried to reinstall pipewire and its configs and disabled power manager.

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I don't have other earphones to test with

frozen cave
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i think there is a package named pipewire-jack

inland dawn
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its installed

frozen cave
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im out

inland dawn
frozen cave
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is speakers jack

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@inland dawn

elfin granite
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can you see and/or switch to the wired sink in something like pavucontrol?

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Could be that the device and sink is up and live, but it is not auto-detecting and switching

inland dawn
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the system acts like nothing is wrong and keeps playing audio through the headphones [there is no actual sound]

inland dawn
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there's option in gnome to do that

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pavu fucks with my audio

elfin granite
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So with headphones selected as in your screenshot the audio does not come out of the headphones, and the speakers still work?

inland dawn
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yeah

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If someone could please report this, Its too hard for me

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its been like this since I started trying linux 3 years ago

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debian based distros would have no sound at all but fedora and arch gave me sound sometimes
for 3 months sometimes

elfin granite
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debian distros not having sound is semi-expected as you have to jump through some hoops to get proprietary drivers in it

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Sound drivers are often closed source

elfin granite
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I hate to say it but if it is not working across different distros and with different desktop environs (gnome vs kde) then it's starting to smell like hardware to me

inland dawn
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obviously not, my headphones work on all devices [android phones] and on windows

elfin granite
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Not your headphones, the laptop audio stack

inland dawn
elfin granite
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It'll work in windows because they sell that machine with windows

inland dawn
elfin granite
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The manufacturers actually have to care with windows

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do you have sof-firmware installed?

inland dawn
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yeah thats true

inland dawn
elfin granite
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Yeah, I'm clutching at straws

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I've had machines with similar symptoms in the past and I ended up giving up and putting it down to shitty audio firmware from the manufacturer.

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I'm curious if anyone else knows a secret trick for it!

inland dawn
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these few problems make me not want to be on linux also I hate my father, I knew I'd have many problems with a laptop and told him to buy a computer but nope

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HDR does'nt work, display color calibration does'nt work either

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BTW if I boot live fedora right now, sound would work through my headphones @elfin granite

elfin granite
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You mean it works fine in the iso environ?

inland dawn
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I told ya guys it works for a random amount of time

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on fedora or arch on first install

elfin granite
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If so, try lspci -k | grep -iA3 audio on each and compare. It will spit out what audio devices, modules and drivers are in use. If they're different in the iso vs install then that might be a clue

inland dawn
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and yes I do not do any funky shit on the system after install

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00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Meteor Lake-P HD Audio Controller (rev 20)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 8c58
Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-mtl
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_sof_pci_intel_mtl
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Meteor Lake-P SMBus Controller (rev 20)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 8c58

01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation AD107 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 8c58
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel

I don't have fedora right now

elfin granite
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hmmmmmmmmmmm

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I see two audio devices 👀

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I wonder if they're fighting each other. That might explain this

elfin granite
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How can you be so sure? :P

inland dawn
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nvidia is used when hdmi is connected, to control TV / Monitor audio

elfin granite
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That's sensible

inland dawn
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I will test on fedora in 2 min

elfin granite
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00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 20)
    Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3838
    Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
    Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
``` my lspci for comparison, just as a datapoint
inland dawn
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the biggest reason for my shit not working because it is more bleeding edge than arch itself

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lspci -k | grep -iA3 audio

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@elfin granite

elfin granite
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Yeah that's frustrating. I was hoping to see something different we could work with

elfin granite
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Fun! If it craps out again, check dmesg. It might have some logs saying what happened

inland dawn
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Damn, I fixed it by restarting windows without headphones and saved and exit bios settings without changing any which resets some devices and now it works again. WTF my laptop or windows is so weird

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that means removing windows from my laptop would fix this problem forever LOL

inland dawn
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my wired jack headphones stop working on linux if I open windows even once, but they start working on linux when I go to bios settings and change nothing and do save and exit, that might somehow reset the device. can I add a kernel parameter to automate this specifically for jack audio?
somber citrus
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maybe you have fast startup enabled on windows, so it leaves your sound card (and the rest of your hardware) in a weird state

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@inland dawn

somber citrus
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i'm clueless then

inland dawn
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@hearty nova

elfin granite
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are you certain?

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the settings are in quite an obscure place in windows. Hibernation also needs to be disabled

inland dawn
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hibernation / fast startup was always disabled and yes I am 100% sure I tried this 5 times

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@elfin granite

inland dawn
elfin granite
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These badgers

inland dawn
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😭 Ive had to fix 10 different "niche" problems in linux on my own

inland dawn
# elfin granite These badgers

bro I know, I am literally a power user running a personally customized windows ISO using NTLite and multiple powershell comands

elfin granite
inland dawn
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K understood

elfin granite
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The idea is that windows doesn't actually shut down properly when those are active, so it can reserve hardware and make it unusable in another OS

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You going into the bios and it working after really really hints to that

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But if you're sure they're off then 😞

inland dawn
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I understand what your saying, Ive done the disabling fast startup and / or hibernation and it has'nt worked, that is why I was asking for a way to reset that specific device at startup of linux

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I tried snd reset param in kernel options, did'nt work

elfin granite
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It's a layer before the OS really. ACPI tables. Im sure it's possible though

inland dawn
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At least I can use my headphones fine for the most part now so thats good, I only use windows to watch netflix due to linux drm restrictions

inland dawn
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I will keep this thread open forever IDC how long it takes. BYE I am gonna study math

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could it be due to dts headphones x enabled its done through a propriatary app

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@elfin granite

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@elfin granite ping number 2

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I found the fix

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shutting down works and restarts dont

elfin granite
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So much for studying lol

elfin granite
inland dawn
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I should make a better restart command

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it took me a loooong time to back track my headphone not working lol

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AI slop: shutdown /s /full /t 0 && shutdown /r /t 0

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[SOLVED] Headphones never work [Wired JACK]