sick forge May 5, 2024, 11:58 AM

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My machine currently runs Windows 11 and Tumbleweed side by side, on separate disks, on separate ESPs.

Even after manually registering GRUB to UEFI Boot Menu using TianoCore EDK-II Shell, the boot entry disappears.
Secure Boot is off
Firmware is InsydeH2O V1.18

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Windows prolly destroyed your bootloader

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:25 PM

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i register it manually

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:25 PM

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yea, and?

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worked?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:26 PM

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then I run reset -w

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then the boot entries disappear and I only see WBM

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:26 PM

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Huh, are you sure you have registered it correctly via chroot?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:27 PM

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theres no chroot

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since I'm in the UEFI firmware

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:27 PM

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Boot into your Live USB, mount your partitons and re-initialize your grub

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:28 PM

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okay
GRUB is in /dev/sdb1
Windows is in /dev/sda1

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:28 PM

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You know how, tho?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:29 PM

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wdym

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how I did the install was:
Linux on /dev/sdb
Windows on /dev/sda

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thats just it

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im waiting for the live environment to be ready

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:44 PM

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oh sorry, I was gone for a bit

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Wait you installed Windows, on a ssd?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:45 PM

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i have to burn the iso for the 3rd time

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windows on an SSD

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) Wait you installed Windows, on a ssd?

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:45 PM

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Huh why?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:45 PM

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linux on another SSD

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because I only have SSDs

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:45 PM

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Yk you could have removed the linux one b4?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:46 PM

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wdym

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:46 PM

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Like the Linux ssd, so that windows doesnt get to know there are several ssds

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:47 PM

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what should I do now

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uninstall the second SSD?

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(it's gonna be as easy as removing 3 screws and uninstalling a CD-ROM)

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before Windows install I had RAID0 on two SSDs

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:48 PM

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Lmao, no.

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:48 PM

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and Linux

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:48 PM

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Oh okay, thats smart. So If youd reinstall linux youd be able to, without dataloss?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:49 PM

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I have no valuable data to preserve between installs

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:49 PM

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But Reinstalling it would be the last thing Id do

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:49 PM

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~~except the huge archive of pride flags but I don't want to talk about this~~

Sparkles @ Namsis ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) I have no valuable data to preserve between installs

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:50 PM

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L - M - A -O

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Anyways

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Idk if I am right, but Is it possible that your Grubbtl got destroyed, cuz you isntalled windows after Linux?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:51 PM

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wdym grubbtl

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:51 PM

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Grubbootloader, sorry

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:51 PM

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also I installed Linux again after installing Windows

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:52 PM

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Again? So Windows didnt destroy your Bootloader, its more a setup issue?

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Sorry im just confused rn

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:52 PM

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My firmware normally doesn't recognise GRUB2

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it does recognise GRUB

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so I normally enter the UEFI Shell

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and create a boot entry that points at GRUB2

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and it normally works

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but now it does not

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I can also start GRUB through external means like via the chainloader command on a GRUB on an USB

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and UEFI Shell,

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but it won't start on its own

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:54 PM

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Cant you just add the GRUB2 bootloader to the GRUB(1?) bootloader via osprober and setting the bootpartitoins of the other distros to that one?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:54 PM

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wdym

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:54 PM

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I am assuming you have multiple Linux distros Installed because of GRUB and GRUB2

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:55 PM

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no

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only openSUSE

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and Windows

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:55 PM

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Why are then 2 GRUBS?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:55 PM

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and there's just GRUB2

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but before that I used GRUB as well and GRUB requires no additional handling,

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while GRUB2 does

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:56 PM

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Wait is there an existing EFI partition with another bootloader?

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What does GRUB(1) show?

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nothing?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:56 PM

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there's GRUB on /dev/sdb1
there's WBM on /dev/sda1

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:57 PM

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Yes? Isnt that what you want?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:57 PM

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if I somewhat get to fire the GRUB on /dev/sdb1
it would show Windows 11 on /dev/sda

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but I can't get the firmware to recognize GRUB on /dev/sdb

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:58 PM

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But you are still able to boot into it?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:58 PM

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if I plug in an USB

serene quail May 5, 2024, 12:59 PM

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That doesnt make sense to me 😭

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 12:59 PM

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the GRUB on the USB starts
then I can run

chainloader (hd1,1)/EFI/opensuse/grubx64.efi

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but the GRUB on (hd1,1) cannot start

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im sorry i explained it too messy

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okay so this is the disk layout

Disk 1: (has Windows 11)
  Partition 1: EFI System Partition (1GB)
  Partition 2: Microsoft Reserved
  Partition 3: NTFS (Windows Root)
Disk 2: (has openSUSE Tumbleweed)
  Partition 1: EFI System Partition
  Partition 2: BTRFS (Linux Root)

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and I can't load the bootloader by its own

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but from external means it boots up

serene quail May 5, 2024, 1:20 PM

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You could use the Partition 1 of Disk 2 as your main Menu and add WBM of Disk 1 Partiton 1 via Os-Prober

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Sorry, I just took a break

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 1:25 PM

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i will do this now

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and I know what I'll see

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(menu disappears)

serene quail May 5, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Hah? Sounds spooky

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 1:34 PM

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Okay I'm in the UEFI Shell now

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) Hah? Sounds spooky

serene quail May 5, 2024, 1:35 PM

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So you didnt see a bootloader?

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or any bootmenues

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 1:38 PM

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I did

serene quail May 5, 2024, 1:46 PM

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huh, what did it show?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 2:15 PM

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she's sad that she can't explain

serene quail May 5, 2024, 2:33 PM

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HUH?

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You both are confusing me

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 2:45 PM

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so basically
What we do is

install Linux
open UEFI shell from the install USB
type in bcfg boot add 9 FS1:\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI "Linux Boot Manager"
Exit UEFI shell with reset -w
Observe (Linux disappears)

serene quail May 5, 2024, 2:56 PM

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One question? Are you both facing that issue?

serene quail May 5, 2024, 2:56 PM

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queen prawn so basically What we do is 1. install Linux 2. open UEFI shell from the install ...

Why would you add the bootmgr via UEFI shell?

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Isnt it easier if you just add it via os-prober?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Yes

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) One question? Are you both facing that issue?

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Cause this one simply doesn't work

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) Isnt it easier if you just add it via os-prober?

serene quail May 5, 2024, 3:50 PM

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queen prawn Yes

HAH? Okay

serene quail May 5, 2024, 3:50 PM

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queen prawn Cause this one simply doesn't work

Why not? Are there any errors?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 3:51 PM

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no

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) Why not? Are there any errors?

serene quail May 5, 2024, 3:52 PM

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queen prawn no

Yk you gotta edit the grub.cfg and edit it?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 3:52 PM

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hmm didn't try that one

serene quail May 5, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Oh lmao

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So you gotta install Os-prober
Then you have to edit the grub file in /etc/default/grub
uncomment the last line
After that one, update grub (grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
and vuala, you added your bootloader

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:05 PM

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i have os-prober ig

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or I don't have GRUB installed at all

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it's either

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I don't remember which one

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Ill show you in a bit (I miss entered my pwd to often)

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Skillful👍

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:08 PM

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I'm sorry

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Uncomment: GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

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in /etc/default/grub

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Make sure grub is installed b4.

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After that run:

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lmk if that worked

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:26 PM

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The system doesn't use GRUB

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) lmk if that worked

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That's what I see

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:32 PM

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What else is it using then?

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Is your friend also not using grub?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:33 PM

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Systemd-boot

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) What else is it using then?

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:34 PM

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And Valiant?

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:34 PM

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we use the same computer

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Oh okay

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Makes sense

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Umm, I have never used systemd bootloader 😭

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Sorry for wasting y'alls time

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Let's reinstall for GRUB

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it's okay

[ohsystemmm@ArchLinuxOnTop~]$ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) Sorry for wasting y'alls timr

serene quail May 5, 2024, 4:36 PM

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queen prawn Let's reinstall for GRUB

I have never used OpenSusA nor systemd bootl.

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But I can help you setting up grub (on arch)

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But I think the cmd are pretty much the same

fresh cedar May 5, 2024, 5:57 PM

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just reinstall grub

queen prawnBOT May 5, 2024, 5:58 PM

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I did and it didn't work

predicament ↩️

[Reply to:](#1236648276196069478 message) just reinstall grub

#after windows 11 install, grub refuses to start

L - M - A -O