debian thingy majig in #linux

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yeah!!

hi

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Here

@ocean notch so, let's try to use a DVD iso

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ok

how would i go about

doing that

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https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

Simply download the iso file from here

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i have an intel cpu and nvidia gpu

does rthat matter

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Nah it doesn't :)

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ok

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It's still amd64

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Do you have a preferred de?

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KDE

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We can use the KDE iso instead then

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i used to use i3 but i cba bro

alright send the kde iso pls

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https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-12.5.0-amd64-kde.iso

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is that still a dvd iso

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It's the live iso

It contains only KDE as a de there so no

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ah

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Yeah, all good.

You can also verify the iso but that's for another time

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i hope that this works

because this is my only USB

i lost all the others

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Wut

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cuz

you gotta put it on an

usb

right

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yeah of course.

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i onlyt have one

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That's fine

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When you boot into the live choose the first option. You'll get the easier installer

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right

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Debian Installer can be a bit more complicated

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ok

its installed

what now

i mean the iso

what rufus settings do i use

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Just use balena etcher.

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sure

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It's easier and you won't make mistakes

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ok lemme use balena etcher rq

should i just

boot into the live environment

whenm its done

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Yep.

Then tag me please

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ok

ok im in

bruh im on wayland though

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No issue? Start the installer :)

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aa

ok my discord glithced a bit its fine now

where is the uhh

installer

ah found it

@install debian@

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Yeah.

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ok should i just go through it

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Yep, please just read what it says. It's pretty much self explanatory

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okay sur

btw

what does swap do

ive always wanted to know

im at the end do i just press install now

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when you start to consume too much ram that space gets allocated to swap so that your system can use less ram space

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Yep

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cool

there we go its installin gno

w

this is going way smoother

than usual

bro 😭

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What happened?

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i was saying that cuz stuff is goin smooth

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Hehe

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also aftr this is gotta actually yk

learn how to use debian

effectively

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You'll learn Linux in general more I think. But read the apt manual for users and the Debian administrator handbook :)

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its been on

removing 10 packages

for a bit no

w

it might be stuck

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Did it finish or?

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nvm it got off it

its on creating initramfs

cool that was close

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Yeah don't stop it lol

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its done yippie!!

do i just do restart now

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If it's done yes :) remove the USB first

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remove the usb first while im on the live thing?

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Noo when you restart

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oh right LOL

well debian time yippie!!

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\o/

Send neofetch too

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i need to get discord working first

lmao

okay so give me a basic rundown

how do i search for uhh

packages

and update

and yk get the packages

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apt search packagename

To update the repos
sudo apt update

To update the system:
sudo apt upgrade

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cool

and is it like

sudo apt get

to get packages

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No, sudo apt

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Do not use apt-get

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so itsj ust like

sudo apt firefox

or smth

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sudo apt install firefox

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then whats sudo apt for 😭

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I was telling you to use apt and not apt-get 😄

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OH

why not apt-get

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The latter is deprecated. You'll still find it around in some guide for compatibility with some old stuff and incompetence of the guide's writer.

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Firefox is pre installed btw

You can login in discord from there

What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? @ocean notch

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KDE isnt loading its just black

with a cursor..

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Nvidia right? Try X11 for now...

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im on X11

atm

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Try Wayland then

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i did

i tried them both

wayland first

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Wtf

Screen please

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im not sure

why

this is happening

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I guess you're on newer hardware which isn't yet supported on Debian.

Plus Nvidia so yeah, it checks out...

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Can you go to a tty?

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ah

KDE loaded

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its only 2080 ti

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Nice

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okay so KDE loaded uh

that took literally ages

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This is an hardware issue for sure

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i might need proprietary drivers

insteead

its slow

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sudo apt install firmware-linux-nonfree

There's a page for Nvidia, please follow it @ocean notch

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can you link it

ah i found

the debian thingy

Update the list of available packages, then we can install the nvidia-driver package, plus the necessary firmware:

apt update

apt install nvidia-driver firmware-misc-nonfree

DKMS will build the nvidia module for your system, via the nvidia-kernel-dkms package.

Note about Secureboot : if you have SecureBoot enabled, you need to sign the resulting modules. Detailed instructions are available here. 

Restart your system to load the new driver.

i think i just need to

restart

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Do you have secure boot?

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If you installed those yes

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no

i did install them

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Good

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alr lets see if this works

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Well- not good. But for now it's fine

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bruh it never goes smoothly for me

its still a black screen

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Install non free firmware too

And please send a screen of what it does

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how do you install non free firmware

e

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Do you have non free firmware in sources.list?

Please log on discord and send a screen or /etc/apt/sources.list.. @ocean notch

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i installed non free drivers so i tink i have it on sources.list

its so sloooowwww

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Please send a screen....

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this is all i could do

kde is slow

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I knew it.

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You don't have non-free and contrib

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Add non-free contrib to the end of these lines.

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uhw

what would happen

if i DID

have hem

them

would everything be fixed

also how do i edit files from the command line

i forgot how

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sudo nano /path/to/file

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No with that enabled you can install the non free stuff. It won't fix on it's own.

You could also try the backports I guess @ocean notch

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i thought it did fix on its own

because of the ugide

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this

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Also, add a backports repository.

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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware contrib

Add this to sources.list.

Then sudo apt update

Then sudo apt install -t bookworm-backports linux-image linux-headers
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You'll get a newer kernel

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ok

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After you're done reboot

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what happens aftr that

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You'll get a newer kernel

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Just to be sure. Where did you add that line?

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i havnet yet

where should i ptu tat line though

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In the /etc/apt/sources.list file.

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You edit the file with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

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will it fix my issues

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It should yeah

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just gotta do this now

"unable to locate package linux-image"

"package linux-headers has no installation candidate"

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linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64