extremely high cpu temps while playing any game.

[stark zephyr]

Hello guys, i use arch and now every game i play the cpu shows 90+ degrees celcius, even tho the utilization is 20 percent or less. I am on a laptop. I use feral game mode on every game. The cpu governer is set to powersave and power mode is set to balanced. Also the fans also become super loud.

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[stark zephyr]

Tried setting everything to powersave, and lowered cpu freq

[ashen prawn]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/CPU_frequency_scaling

You could try this:
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/thermald/

(Assuming you have an Intel CPU)

Perhaps even this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microcode

[stark zephyr]

Thanks ill try

[mild walrus]

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[stark zephyr]

I have a amd cpu btw

Will these work

[ashen prawn]

I don't know if the thermald package will work on AMD CPUs, but you should definitely download the amd-ucode package

[stark zephyr]

I do have the amd ucode package

[stark zephyr]

Btw the thing is

Whenever i click play the cpu IMMEDIATELY goes to 70 degrees

like in the span of 2 seconds

50 degrees to 70 degrees in 2 fucking seconds

and then while playing its 80-90 degrees

[ashen prawn]

How old is the laptop?

Other than what I've suggested in terms of software, all I can think of would be to check if a BIOS setting is inhibiting the fans at all - or to disassemble the computer and reapply thermal paste to the CPU (if that's at all possible)

[stark zephyr]

Bought in 2022 dec

It seems like an os issue to me idk

[ashen prawn]

Out of curiosity, what happens to the temperature if you change from 'powersave' to a normal or higher setting?

[stark zephyr]

I use balanced

Powersave makes no difference

[ashen prawn]

I mean regarding the CPU governer as you mentioned

[stark zephyr]

As i said gamemode sets the governer to performance it that does make it stable 90+ deg

Setting it to power save atleast made it like 80-90

it flutuates between 80-91-92

With powersave

Ill get it cleaned tbh

[ashen prawn]

Where did you say that?

[stark zephyr]

Sorry english isnt my first language but gamemode does make the governer to performance

[ashen prawn]

Right

[stark zephyr]

Its generally cooler with gamemode disabled

Ive noticed that

Yeah because i use a laptop stand

So its exposed to air and not blocked in anyway

[ashen prawn]

I mean internally

[stark zephyr]

Yeah

ill get it cleaned

[ashen prawn]

👍🏻

[stark zephyr]

Maybe theres like dust in the fans

[ashen prawn]

Is the laptop still under any sort of consumer warranty?

Given how new it is

[stark zephyr]

Nooo :( i forgot to renew it

It expired 2023

december

[ashen prawn]

Ah

[stark zephyr]

I can get it cleaned by a local repair shop i guess

But idk how they would test it since theyre all familiar to windows

[ashen prawn]

Do you think you could try doing it yourself?

There should be some videos on YouTube about your specific model

[stark zephyr]

Ill just tell them to clean it

Then ill test myself afterwards

[ashen prawn]

I recently restored my old Alienware by watching a few videos

[stark zephyr]

I checked some benchmark vids on yt they all show 90 degrees or so for every game

For my cpu and gpu

But my cpu usage is 20% thats my concern

It shouldnt get 95 degrees on 20%

[ashen prawn]

Yeah I see your concern

Hopefully someone else who knows more than me can chime in

[stark zephyr]

Thanks for your help anyways

[mild walrus]

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[stark zephyr]

Ill get it cleaned from a local shop

[lilac mason]

Do your fans ramp up?

They should

Also please give me the CPU model

Install the package turbostat

Run sudo turbostat --Summary --quiet --interval 1 --show PkgWatt

And then give me the numbers displayed when launching a game

[lilac mason]

Oh yes this was said in the original post

[stark zephyr]

Yes

[stark zephyr]

Will do

[stark zephyr]

Without running game

While running game

@lilac mason

[lilac mason]

Oops my wifi is too bad to load images

Please paste some numbers here

Sending messages seems to work

Ah no now it loaded

Yeah that's about what I expected, 20w isn't anything surprising for a laptop running a game

What's your CPU?

[stark zephyr]

Ryzen 7 5800h

In my 10 min gaming ses max was 96 degrees with about average 20 % cpu usage and game mode disabled.

Powersave governer and balanced power profile

[lilac mason]

45W TDP
20 during gaming sounds good
Your cooling might be insufficient

[stark zephyr]

Ill get my fans cleaned

And get it cleaned from the inside

I do use a laptop stand however should allow for good cooling

[lilac mason]

You said you'd go to a repair shop
But if you don't feel uncomfortable, you could remove the back (about 10 screws) and use some compressed air to clean the vents

[stark zephyr]

Nah sorry i feel uncomfortable

I dont wanna mess up this laptop

Its only been a year

[zinc hedge]

Ryzen 7 5800h

Cezanne mobile processor. Its power management table can probably be adjusted with RyzenAdj.

See https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj

[lilac mason]

Yes, RyzenAdj works for these CPUs but there's still a problem if it overheats at 20w

My 15w CPU seems to have about 40w of thermal headroom and 30 sustained

Tested with a max of 50W using RyzenAdj

[stark zephyr]

Ive never used this tool

[stark zephyr]

How do i use it

[ashen prawn]

git clone https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj.git

Then ./ryzenadj with any flags and options lited on the GitHub page that you need

[stark zephyr]

Can u tell me some options that may help with my issue

I have never used this

[lilac mason]

You need to set max power, max power sustained and max power continuous

Easy as the options are shortened to -a - b -c

First I recommend reading the currently in place values

Then you can try things such as 20000 for each (20w)

[stark zephyr]

Can i try undervolting from corectl

[lilac mason]

I'm not sure your CPU supports under/overvolting but you can try -0.025 volt steps

If vcore changes and your CPU is stable you're all good

[stark zephyr]

Idk bro

Ill just get it cleaned firsy