[SOLVED] Troubles Resolving WiFi Difficulties with Arch | Arch Linux Community | Page 1

thorn fern Jun 14, 2023, 10:13 AM

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Hello, I will try to be as direct as I can:

My laptop seems to struggle with maintaining any wireless connection (especially my university's wireless connection) and I'm still experiencing this after upgrading my laptop's WiFi card itself. (I'm now using an AX210). Although my speed and experience has improved (as naturally expected with a current component), I seem to just suddenly drop out and back in constantly? If I look at my list of connections, they tend to disappear and reappear constantly. Since I didn't think it would hurt to try this, I visited my university's IT help area and the one Arch guy (who wasn't present, but messaged the person I was speaking to) suggested a possible driver misconfiguration of some sort. I hear drivers can be a bit messy, but I cannot seem to resolve my problem in spite of the troubleshooting steps I've taken on the Arch wiki.

I use regular Arch with the KDE desktop environment (plus networkmanager). I would sincerely appreciate any help, plus feel free to ask for some clarification if need be!

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(This might be slightly unrelated, but I will note that I'm still learning. However, I'm very open-minded and I try to do whatever I can before approaching others about stuff)

proven orchid Jun 14, 2023, 6:40 PM

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thorn fern Hello, I will try to be as direct as I can: My laptop seems to struggle with ma...

Hi, can you go into more detail about the driver "misconfiguration"? The ax210 should just work out of the box and needs no further config

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Also, please post the output of systemctl list-units --type service --no-pager

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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📎 message.txt

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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proven orchid Hi, can you go into more detail about the driver "misconfiguration"? The ax210 s...

It seems to be happening with any internet connection now, although it was just more troubling when trying to connect at my university

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It might sound a bit funny to say I'm not sure what wifi drivers I might have installed, but the only clue I seem to be getting is possible driver issues (since the list of available connections would constantly "refresh" as well as my connection dropping in and out)

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This happened with my last wifi card as well, so it makes me think this has nothing to do with the card itself

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More fun

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Here's the lspci output as well, if it helps

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:31 AM

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thorn fern

You have many network managers enabled at the same time

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This can lead to the issues you are experiencing

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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Ah

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How would I get rid of the others?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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are you intentionally using iwd as network manager's backend ?

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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or keep the one which is needed?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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or not

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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I don't think so

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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Okay

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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I just downloaded the network manager and iwlwifi

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:32 AM

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So

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:33 AM

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which I believe iwlwifi was included with the kernel itself

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afaik

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:33 AM

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sudo systemctl disable --now systemd-networkd```

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Let me try that

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What is networkd supposed to be?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:34 AM

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systemd's network manager

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:34 AM

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Ah, I see

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And I guess iwd isn't necessary in my case here

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Well, I'll keep an eye out from here and let you know if things run more smoothly now

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:34 AM

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Nop, you can use iwd as networkmanager's backend instead of wpa_supplicant but you have to configure it

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Here's the new output

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📎 message.txt

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(You might notice how iwd is gone)

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:36 AM

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yes they're disabled now

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:36 AM

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I believe one source suggested that I just uninstall it

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:36 AM

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anyway you should post the output of lspci -k

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:36 AM

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somewhere on the Arch forum

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Oh, will do

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📎 message.txt

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Here it is

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:37 AM

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driver looks fine 👍

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:37 AM

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Strange, that's a different CPU from what my system has

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:37 AM

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you should no longer disconnect randomly if there's no other issues

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:37 AM

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or claims to has

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It's an i7-8650U

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:38 AM

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proven orchid you should no longer disconnect randomly if there's no other issues

Thank you so much. This would definitely explain things, but I suppose I should keep this post open for a little bit longer and let you know how things are by then?

south oracleBOT Jun 15, 2023, 6:38 AM

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thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:38 AM

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It doesn't seem to be happening so far, so maybe I'm okay now

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:39 AM

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thorn fern Thank you so much. This would definitely explain things, but I suppose I should ...

yeah ofc don't close until it's fixed :P

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:39 AM

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But I guess I upgraded my wifi card in the process

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which definitely did help overall

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:39 AM

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but you mention a "miconfiguration" that the school's IT person did? maybe you should reverse that

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you didn't really detail what it was

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:40 AM

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proven orchid but you mention a "miconfiguration" that the school's IT person did? maybe you s...

Oh, that's not quite what I meant. I'm referring to however I might have tried to set it up before

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Oh, I just had a network dropout a second ago

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Odd

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:41 AM

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Well hold on

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networkd is still active

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:41 AM

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Either this was just a regular dropout of my internet or it

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It is?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:41 AM

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thorn fern

^

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:41 AM

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proven orchid ```sudo systemctl disable --now iwd sudo systemctl disable --now systemd-network...

Did you do the second command here?

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:42 AM

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I did

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:42 AM

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maybe you omitted the --now part :p

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:42 AM

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Hold on, I'll share the output

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Let me double check

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I wrote this

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sudo systemctl disable --now systemd-networkd

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:43 AM

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do systemctl status systemd-networkd

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:43 AM

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It's active???

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:43 AM

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can you show me the output pls?

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:44 AM

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disabled, but "preset: enabled"

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:44 AM

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that's weird it should have stopped, well at least it is disabled

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:44 AM

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How would I stop it?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:44 AM

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sudo systemctl stop systemd-networkd

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:45 AM

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sudo systemctl stop systemd-networkd
Warning: Stopping systemd-networkd.service, but it can still be activated by:
systemd-networkd.socket

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Oh, didn't save as a box

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but let me check it now

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Woah, that uploaded slowly

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:46 AM

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thorn fern

hmm hold on

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:47 AM

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It's still running?

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apparently

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In fact, it generates copies of the same status?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:47 AM

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systemctl status systemd-networkd.socket

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:48 AM

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``● systemd-networkd.socket - Network Service Netlink Socket
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd.socket; disabled; preset: disabled)
Active: active (running) since Thu 2023-06-15 14:53:35 ACST; 1h 24min ago
Triggers: ● systemd-networkd.service
Docs: man:systemd-networkd.service(8)
man:rtnetlink(7)
Listen: route 1361 (Netlink)
CGroup: /system.slice/systemd-networkd.socket

Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete.``

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So it's still active?

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supposedly?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:49 AM

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thorn fern ``● systemd-networkd.socket - Network Service Netlink Socket Loaded: loaded...

Try to reboot and then post this again with also the status of networkd

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:49 AM

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Alright, will do

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One moment

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Okay, back in my OS

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I will try this now

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Okay, it's different for socket

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proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:52 AM

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Okay

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good

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and now the status of systemd-networkd

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:52 AM

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proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:52 AM

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ok all is good

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it just required a reboot lol

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:52 AM

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why is the preset enabled?

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Shouldn't that be disabled too?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:53 AM

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thorn fern why is the preset enabled?

this doesn't mean it's enabled

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you should look at the one before it

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:53 AM

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Right

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Though I was wondering why it differed

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New list

📎 message.txt

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:55 AM

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did you use archinstall?

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:55 AM

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Yeah

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Was that possibly the cause?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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yeah maybe that's why the preset is enabled :p

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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I wasn't sure if archinstall was considered official for this server either, so my apologies there

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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well actually it's enabled on my system as well

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so idk

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no idea how these presets work tbh

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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But the preset shouldn't mean anything now

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since it's disabled

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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yeah forget about it

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:56 AM

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Is there anything else I should check?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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thorn fern New list

looks fine

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no more conflicting network managers

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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That probably explained that one dropout from earlier

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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now just monitor your network

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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Just to ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen again?

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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if any more drops come back to this thread

thorn fern Jun 15, 2023, 6:57 AM

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Alright

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I appreciate your help so far, thank you

proven orchid Jun 15, 2023, 6:58 AM

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np

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a useful command would be journalctl -f which helps you monitor journal messages in real time

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in case the network drops then you can see the messages (logs) immediately

thorn fern Jun 17, 2023, 5:15 AM

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@proven orchid Pardon my ping, but it seems like it hasn't happened ever since. I believe it's genuinely all good now

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I would assume I might have screwed up somewhere and caused many to run at once???

proven orchid Jun 17, 2023, 9:42 AM

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thorn fern <@262144046804369408> Pardon my ping, but it seems like it hasn't happened ever ...

That's good, glad it's working

proven orchid Jun 17, 2023, 9:43 AM

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thorn fern I would assume I might have screwed up somewhere and caused many to run at once?...

Well idk but that was definitely the issue

thorn fern Jun 17, 2023, 9:43 AM

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proven orchid Well idk but that was definitely the issue

For sure

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I guess I'll just leave them be, although I hope it doesn't somehow come back

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Even then, I know how to fix it

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or at least know the cause

proven orchid Jun 17, 2023, 9:44 AM

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You disabled the services so you shouldn't worry

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they won't come back on their own :p

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And if somehow this issue comes back you can always create a new thread so no worries

thorn fern Jun 17, 2023, 9:47 AM

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Thanks

proven orchid Jun 17, 2023, 9:49 AM

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thorn fern Thanks

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thorn fern Jun 17, 2023, 9:49 AM

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