quick kernel
When starting up my computer this screen automatically pops up and after 3 seconds of inactivity it automatically boots into the firmware interface and there is no other option. Yesterday it was working fine and booted into arch after 3 seconds of not pressing any keys like it normally does but today when I tried to turn my computer on this new error occured.. please send help!! Is there anyway to fix this issue from inside the firmware interface itself??
It keeps booting into it and i cant get it to stop
This is my boot configuration inside the firmware interface if that helps
verbal laurel
Can you chroot into it?
quick kernel
try enabling legacy boot to see if it helps
Its dell
quick kernel
Can you chroot into it?
Not sure how to do that i will look it up
delicate juniperBOT
verbal laurel
Here you go
dusky yoke
you will need an installer usb
quick kernel
try enabling legacy boot to see if it helps
Cant find that option?
dusky yoke
change the boot mode to something other than uefi only
dusky yoke
I dont have a usb
is your pixel rooted?
quick kernel
is your pixel rooted?
Pixel?
Fuck
Uefi only..
Would enabling secure boot help?
@dusky yoke
dusky yoke
Would enabling secure boot help?
no
quick kernel
well, then you need either an OTG adapter or a friend with a PC, and a usb drive
Dont i only need a usb drive to chroot?
Oh u need to download arch onto it
Ah
dusky yoke
it would be twice as easy if your phone was rooted since most rooted android phones can be directly booted from
quick kernel
it would be twice as easy if your phone was rooted since most rooted android pho...
Wait ill check maybe it is?
Idk how to tell
Ill google it
dusky yoke
Wait ill check maybe it is?
if you did not root it, it most likely isn't
quick kernel
if you did not root it, it most likely isn't
Damn
Ok so only option is chroot then?
How big of a usb do i need to buy
dusky yoke
8 gigs will be enough
quick kernel
like atleast 1GB for arch iso and 3 for a ghrapical live usb
Ok ill get the usb stick but i might need ur guys help with chrooting like obviously ill follow the guide but..
verbal laurel
afcours
open quartz
like atleast 1GB for arch iso and 3 for a ghrapical live usb
The Arch ISO is ~900MB so 2GB should be good (to leave some extra for formatting shenanigans)
If you want to boot graphical ISOs later on, do 8GB. An 8GB one should do all but the most bloated ISOs.
open quartz
Is chrooting even guarenteed to work?
95%
quick kernel
Will i lose my past files and have a fresh install of arch
Or itll boot into my old arch which is on the drive right?
open quartz
Will i lose my past files and have a fresh install of arch
No
The point of chrooting in this case is to not have to reinstall fully
true blade
Its my only option right?
network boot exists too.(but that's only possible once you get an efi/grub shell)
true blade
Uefi only..
does add a boot option give you a file picker that you can use to browse your efi directory?
quick kernel
does add a boot option give you a file picker that you can use to browse your ef...
One sec ill check
quick kernel
network boot exists too.(but that's only possible once you get an efi/grub shell...
How do i get an efi grub shell
true blade
Usually grub itself shows and option and sometimes aborts to it.
fleet solstice
Would enabling secure boot help?
No
quick kernel
quick kernel
does add a boot option give you a file picker that you can use to browse your ef...
This is what browse for file gives
fleet solstice
Ok so only option is chroot then?
Your issue is simple. Systemd-boot cannot find your boot partition. So chroot and reinstall it
You need secure boot disabled to run arch
quick kernel
Your issue is simple. Systemd-boot cannot find your boot partition. So chroot an...
How come it found before??
true blade
i'm just wondering if there's a way without them buy a new usb.
quick kernel
i'm just wondering if there's a way without them buy a new usb.
Its k i bought it alr
fleet solstice
How come it found before??
Idk. But this is a simple issue. Bootloader can't find boot partition.
Reinstall it
true blade
How come it found before??
there's a grub bug when the installed grub is a different version and the grub-mkconfig is a different version
fleet solstice
.aw systemd-boot
delicate juniperBOT
fleet solstice
there's a grub bug when the installed grub is a different version and the grub-m...
They use systemd-boot
Not grub
Grub ≠ systemd-boot
fleet solstice
So they have to reinstall systemd-boot from chroot then reconfigure it
Wiki tells how
Also lsblk to see if you still have your partitions there
.aw lsblk
delicate juniperBOT
fleet solstice
How come it found before??
When making the arch USB, use ventoy for best results
.aw ventoy
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
Also lsblk to see if you still have your partitions there
Which partitions? My arch one that shld be on my comps hard drive?
fleet solstice
Which partitions? My arch one that shld be on my comps hard drive?
All of it
Refer to the wiki on how to install your bootloader
Cuz I use grub
quick kernel
Refer to the wiki on how to install your bootloader
So systemed boot is a whole diff process right?
I didnt manually install arch b4 tho.. i used a script so
This is gonna be a bit confusing i think
fleet solstice
So systemed boot is a whole diff process right?
Idk how you installed Arch but you choose systemd-boot as your bootloader
fleet solstice
I didnt manually install arch b4 tho.. i used a script so
.s archbased
delicate juniperBOT
.s archbased
quick kernel
I used an officiall install script?
true blade
@fleet solstice how'd you know it was systemd-boot?
true blade
I used an officiall install script?
archinstall?
quick kernel
archinstall?
Ya i think
fleet solstice
<@456226577798135808> how'd you know it was systemd-boot?
Because that's how systemd-boot looks by default
quick kernel
Because that's how systemd-boot looks by default
Ya its that not grub
fleet solstice
Ya its that not grub
You're using systemd-boot
quick kernel
I chose boot
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
Ok i copied arch into the usb and formatted the disk using ventoy
quick kernel
Anyways, make the arch USB and chroot
Now ill boot into the usb
@fleet solstice
I just do normal mode right?
Cus its not grub
quick kernel
It made a loud beep and now its booting into uefi
I want to mount the root first right?
Sda2 being the root
@fleet solstice
fleet solstice
I want to mount the root first right?
.aw chroot
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
I ran the lsblk thing to check my partitions
fleet solstice
I want to mount the root first right?
Find the right drive that contains your system
lsblk -f helps
quick kernel
Find the right drive that contains your system
Ya i swear its sda2?
Idk how to tell exaxtly cus sda1 is ventoy
fleet solstice
Ya i swear its sda2?
It's not. NVMe one is your drive
/dev/nvme0n1
Partitions under it are your ESP and your root
Then mount and chroot
fleet solstice
So run this command then mount?
That's a device
fleet solstice
I thot u could just mount first
mount /dev/nvme0n1p2 /mnt mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot
Unless you used /boot/EFI as mounting point
Then chroot
.aw chroot
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
`mount /dev/nvme0n1p2 /mnt
mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot`
Unless you used /boot...
How am i meant to know if i used boot efi as a mounting point?
true blade
yeah so you mounted it /mnt/boot
actually you can change that now if you want. idk what would be a reason to though.
quick kernel
actually you can change that now if you want. idk what would be a reason to thou...
Ill leave it
true blade
maybe if you store loads of backups for fallbacks then...
okay
fleet solstice
Just mount it
Then chroot
arch-chroot /mnt
From there reinstall systemd-boot
.aw systemd-boot
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
From there reinstall systemd-boot
I can install just using the efi boot manager right
So just the first command
Bootctl install?
Srry for being annoying i just wanna make sure im doing it right
So im double checking
@fleet solstice
I did ur other steps of mounting and chroot
quick kernel
Now reinstall systemd boot
Ya in saying to reinstall
I use the first command from the wiki he linked
The efi boot manager one right?
Im just double checking
verbal laurel
Small tip: if i where you I would get ventoy and get the archiso,fedora (or any other linux distro you like that installs a graphical system imidatly) and system rescue cd.
quick kernel
But im 99.9 percent sure thats the only one so
verbal laurel
Probably but I'm not sure since I use grub2
fleet solstice
I did ur other steps of mounting and chroot
That's the chroot environment
Now reinstall systemd-boot
quick kernel
Now reinstall systemd-boot
Ya im saying to do that
fleet solstice
.aw systemd-boot
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
I run the first command from the wiki
U linked right
Thats the only one saying to install
quick kernel
Ya
fleet solstice
Idk if you need to regenerate the boot config but wiki tells how to
quick kernel
Now can i just reboot into it
fleet solstice
Then exit chroot
Then umount -a and run poweroff
Remove the usb and try to boot
Alternatively you could switch to grub if it fails
.aw grub
delicate juniperBOT
quick kernel
Then `umount -a` and run poweroff
Run poweroff as in just use the power off button??
fleet solstice
Refind better
fleet solstice
Run poweroff as in just use the power off button??
Exit chroot, unmount everything then run poweroff command
.aw refind
delicate juniperBOT
fleet solstice
Refind better
Save preferences for #tech-general
They only want to boot
And refind makes it easy to do that
Just lem em use what they want
quick kernel
It wont let me unmount
fleet solstice
It wont let me unmount
Run poweroff command
It should unmount the rest for you
Then remove the USB and try to boot
delicate juniperBOT
true blade
if you use multiple oses,
grub + os-prober is nice.
fleet solstice
@fleet solstice help em installing grub. If it fails, do refind
quick kernel
if you use multiple oses,
grub + os-prober is nice.
Only use arch
quick kernel
It says in the wiki
To boot from a disk using UEFI, an EFI system partition is required.
Does this apply for me
As im booting from usb disk?
@fleet solstice
quick kernel
Judging by your laptop, you're currently using uefi
Yup
So i needa create a partition..
fleet solstice
So i needa create a partition..
Why
You already have the partitions
Btw check if you still have your kernels installed on chroot
fleet solstice
So i needa create a partition..
Where's your partition layout again?
pacman -Qs linux on chroot should tell
quick kernel
fleet solstice
So tldr, check if you still have the kernels and install a bootloader
quick kernel
You have Vanilla kernel
Is that an issue?
fleet solstice
Also os-prober unless its being pulled as a dependency
quick kernel
Also os-prober unless its being pulled as a dependency
Im not dual booting
quick kernel
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub
Then this?
quick kernel
Yeah just grub then
After the 1st command
fleet solstice
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub
yeah that looks fine
Oh wait
Specify the nvme drive too
Not the partition btw
quick kernel
1st command worked fine
fleet solstice
Its the last argument
fleet solstice
So nvme0n1
yeah
quick kernel
So after =grub?
fleet solstice
Yes
quick kernel
I just write the drive name no space nothing else?
fleet solstice
Yes
true blade
what does that do?
I don't remember doing it
fleet solstice
What does what
quick kernel
what does that do?
I don't remember doing it
Specifying the driver name?
true blade
Specify the nvme drive too
.
fleet solstice
Uhh
quick kernel
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub
This is so long to type out..
fleet solstice
The target?
true blade
*drive
yeah
quick kernel
I have efi ya
fleet solstice
It doesn't matter
fleet solstice
Cool
true blade
(on a UEFI system)
quick kernel
Hm
true blade
quick kernel
Ill j type it? Will there be harm?
fleet solstice
Ill j type it? Will there be harm?
No
true blade
nah,
it'll be ignored, it's no use
fleet solstice
Yeah erase the nvme part
true blade
Or it cus i typed the drive
add a space, if you're still doing it
quick kernel
I j mounted root and and boot and then chrooted
quick kernel
Well just remount it at /boot then
Ok
fleet solstice
they're not using any spaces
Thats just the name of the entry thats going to be put in the nvram
true blade
Thats just the name of the entry thats going to be put in the nvram
the whole command 
fleet solstice
Aka boot menu
fleet solstice
Well just remount it at /boot then
You may tell em how to use refind if they can't do grub
Wait
Its just a minor mistake
What matters is to have a bootloader
true blade
use spaces between directives @quick kernel
before/after every --somedirectives=somevalue
quick kernel
Well just remount it at /boot then
Do i need to specify the drive name in the moubt command??
fleet solstice
Bro why didn't you put spaces between arguments
quick kernel
O
fleet solstice
haish
true blade
Do i need to specify the drive name in the moubt command??
nope
true blade
use spaces between directives <@947213218135302145>
before/after every --somedi...
this is what you have to do
quick kernel
this is what you have to do
Damn do i redo the first command then
But it still worked?
true blade
just press the up key
no just the grub install one.
You've been using spaces in between commands and it's directives before right?
quick kernel
I put space between slashes ya
true blade
just press the up key
press it multiple times to go back in your zsh history
quick kernel
Ya ill try to fix it one sec
fleet solstice
Where are you mounting your esp right now?
quick kernel
Where are you mounting your esp right now?
I havent done that
But i alr ran the first grub install command so
Idk what to do
fleet solstice
You haven't mounted the esp 💀
quick kernel
Ya can i still do it after the first grub install command or no?
Have i fucked up
Do i just restart chroot
true blade
no
first make sure that nothing is mounted at /boot
by looking at mount or df -h... I find the latter more readable.
then do rm -r /boot/*
quick kernel
true blade
chroot first
fleet solstice
Ya can i still do it after the first grub install command or no?
You can't install grub if there's nothing to install it to
Mount it first
And then install grub
quick kernel
true blade
You can't install grub if there's nothing to install it to
I think they should delete whatever they grub-installed to /boot/*
if anything installed that is...
grub install will install to a directory if it exists I don't think it can discern a mountpoint from a normal directory.
(after chrooting that is)
fleet solstice
Hmm you mounted your esp at /boot
quick kernel
I think they should delete whatever they grub-installed to /boot/*
if anything i...
How do i do this what delete command to run
quick kernel
Kk
quick kernel
And then remount at /boot/efi
Remount the esp?
fleet solstice
Yes
quick kernel
To get into chroot im confused cus u mount the root then boot
So idk where the esp comes in
fleet solstice
The nvmep1 is supposed to be esp
true blade
ls -di /
btw this shows 2 if you're not chrooted.
as a quick check.
quick kernel
Its alr mounted
quick kernel
The nvmep1 is supposed to be esp
?
I alr mounted this stuff
Before i entered chroot
Thats why im lost
I ran these steps
@true blade
quick kernel
I can still unmount while inside the /mnt/boot/efi right??
fleet solstice
nme
quick kernel
Mb
fleet solstice
smh
fleet solstice
yes
quick kernel
/mnt/boot/efi
I go into this directory then run the mount command?
fleet solstice
No
quick kernel
Do i chroot first ?
fleet solstice
Just stay there in ~
quick kernel
Ok
fleet solstice
Do i chroot first ?
no
fleet solstice
/mnt/boot/efi
quick kernel
It doesnt work
quick kernel
/mnt/boot/efi
I added the efi at the end
fleet solstice
Add --mkdir after mount
fleet solstice
Good
fleet solstice
Now do i chroot and delete whatever i grub installed to the boot?
Yeah I think
Chroot and then run the grub-install thingy
quick kernel
Yeah I think
How do i delete it?
fleet solstice
Without the /dev/nvme thingy
fleet solstice
How do i delete it?
with rm
quick kernel
Do i delete the efiboutmgr as well?
Its not working
Or just the grub install?
Command
true blade
goto /boot
cd boot
fleet solstice
Do i delete the efiboutmgr as well?
Don't write random things if you don't know it
true blade
goto /boot
`cd boot`
then ls -lrta
fleet solstice
Just cd to /boot and delete the things grub related
fleet solstice
look at `ls /efi`
there's nothing there
quick kernel
fleet solstice
he just created that dir earlier
true blade
oh okay, I'm not up to speed.
fleet solstice
I mean you already installed that
fleet solstice
My grub install command didnt have spaces so that didnt work?
Yes
You NEED to put spaces between arguments
otherwise the shell will treat it as one command
quick kernel
use spaces between directives <@947213218135302145>
before/after every --somedi...
I tried to follow this
@fleet solstice
Lol when ur done with mobile league
Ofc
true blade
So like this?
Remove the nvme thing from the last
true blade
Yup
quick kernel
Yay
true blade
directory
quick kernel
quick kernel
efi-directory
I have that?
quick kernel
Oh how come the installation worked then
true blade
It must've installed it in the default location or the current directory
quick kernel
Fixed
true blade
Do ls /boot
true blade
Do ls /boot/efi
quick kernel
boreal pasture
it would be twice as easy if your phone was rooted since most rooted android pho...
very old phones present themselves as mass storage
true blade
Looks good.
quick kernel
But grubs not done installing is it?
What abt this
"Remember to #Generate the main configuration file after finalizing the configuration"
true blade
This says director
@fleet solstice @fleet solstice what would this have done?
quick kernel
Theres other stuff in the wiki so im lost
quick kernel
<@456226577798135808> <@456226577798135808> what would this have done?
I changed it now...but oops
Too late?
true blade
Do pacman -Syu
quick kernel
Errors
quick kernel
Do `pacman -Syu`
Rip
true blade
Too late?
No it's okay, you might need to delete some stuff to undo what that command did. I don't know what it does by default.
Connect to the internet using nmcli or nmtui or something
The root unchrooted shell of the archiso you can use iwtcl,
If nmcli in the chroot doesn't work.
true blade
We're doing this so you can generate the kernel executables.(updating does this too), since your /boot is empty and doesn't have those.
quick kernel
The root unchrooted shell of the archiso you can use iwtcl,
If nmcli in the chro...
So shld i try nmtui?
And iwtcl?
Instead?
true blade
No. I think you can generate the kernel image by pacman -S linux, no need to update
quick kernel
Download this ya?
quick kernel
This will generate vmlinuz-linux (kernel image)
So i get the kernel img
true blade
check if it generated those images in
ls /boot
true blade
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB#Configuration
then follow
quick kernel
quick kernel
check if it generated those images in
`ls /boot`
It did
true blade
yes it did.
true blade
yeah
true blade
yep. reboot
quick kernel
And take out usb and retry booting?
boreal pasture
poweroff, take out usb, press power button
quick kernel
Ok
boreal pasture
reboot doesnt unload some info from firmware, causes issues sometimes
boreal pasture
lets go
quick kernel
Wait so now it will always just automatically use grub bootloader?
boreal pasture
so i think it should work fine unless grub breaks with an update again lol
i think installing grub-hook (aur) might be smart
i did it and have never had an issue, even with the breaking change made to grub
quick kernel
i think installing grub-hook (aur) might be smart
Hmm
What breaking change made to grub?
verbal laurel
To install grub when chrooted:
Pacman -s grub efibootmgr
grub-Install /dev/you're drive name (iirc nvme0n1)
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
Exit
Remove your usb
Umount -a (will unmount all drives that aren't bussy)
Reboot
what page is this?
boreal pasture
what page is this?
endeavouros reddit sticky
https://www.reddit.com/r/EndeavourOS/comments/wygfds/full_transparency_on_the_grub_issue/
true blade
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boreal pasture
I Never had a issue :works
lol ofc i am not everyone, but its a good idea to update grub configs after grub update and a grub hook does that for you so you dont have to remember
true blade
I Never had a issue :works
me too.
boreal pasture
[Trigger]
Operation = Install
Operation = Upgrade
Operation = Remove
Type = File
Target = usr/lib/modules/*/vmlinuz
[Action]
Description = Updating GRUB Config
Depends = grub
When = PostTransaction
Exec = /usr/bin/grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
at /usr/share/libalpm/hooks/grub.hook, owned by root with permissions 0644
this is what the aur package does
verbal laurel
Nice 
true blade
... solved
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fleet solstice
@quick kernel is your issue solved?
fleet solstice
yes
