#My help thread for everything [mostly basic stuff]

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timid trout
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Hi, if i need help [And i do need it often] im gonna write here

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How do i save in nano?

pallid haven
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Ctrl+s to save
Ctrl+x to exit

timid trout
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Got it

pallid haven
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.

timid trout
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Because i don't see save on nano command list

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So thats why i asked

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Ok thanks

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I cant exit

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Cntrl x doesnt work

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Ok nvm it did

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Strange

pallid haven
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feel free to mention

timid trout
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What is that before x?

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@pallid haven prepare to be mentioned often i guess

timid trout
celest stone
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It's a +

timid trout
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Plus?

pallid haven
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yeah

timid trout
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Ok thanks!

celest stone
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chmod +x

timid trout
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Okay

celest stone
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Allows a file to be executed

pallid haven
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executable*?

celest stone
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Yeah that

timid trout
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Iuhh

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Uhh

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I've typed startx but they guy did an mistake so i have to come back

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How to come back from the black screen?

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I want to go back to the terminal because i have to use nano

timid trout
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@pallid haven

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@celest stone

pallid haven
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I don't much about bspwm
But you can try exiting bspwm if you can type some command that can exist bspwm in terminal

OR

you can try switching tty

timid trout
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Screen is literally black

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There was a shortcut

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To come back to terminal

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But i don't remember it

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Somebody told me it before

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Switch something or smth

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Well

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Uhhhhhh

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Let me restart my pc maybe

celest stone
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Change to another terminal, control f3

timid trout
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Doesn't work

celest stone
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Hmm I guess restart

pallid haven
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ctrl+alt+f3

timid trout
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Thanks

celest stone
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Ah I knew I was forgetting something

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Werid how I remember the action but not the command itself

timid trout
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Oh no fucking way

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I changed the thing

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But

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My screen is still black after i run startx

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Maybe it's an issue with drivers?

pallid haven
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I don't really know about bspwm, I haven't used it

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try if this helps

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.aw bspwm

quasi bobcatBOT
timid trout
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There's nothing about black screen after startx on wiki

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I mean

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Oh wait

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There is

timid trout
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"Make sure ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc is executable." HOW DO I MAKE SURE

pallid haven
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try doing chmod +x ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc

timid trout
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Didn't i do that already?

timid trout
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Wtf cntrl alt f3 doesnt work

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Time to reboot then i guess

pallid haven
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you can switch ttys btw

timid trout
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What's ttys

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Huh

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Startx still give's me a black screen...

pallid haven
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plural of tty
ctrl+alt+f1 -> switches to tty1
ctrl+alt+f2 -> switches to tty2
ctrl+alt+f3 -> switches to tty3
and this goes until f12 probably

timid trout
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Ok.

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Tty 1 give's me a black screen

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After i lauch startx

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Same with the others

pallid haven
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can you share the video you are referring to?

timid trout
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It could be an issue with my driver but not sure

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9:52

pallid haven
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did you install xorg-server?

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pacman -S xorg-server

timid trout
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Let me try

pallid haven
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can you send the output of lspci -vnn | grep VGA here?

timid trout
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Just installed it

pallid haven
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also install xorg-xinit

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hmm

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nvidia

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I think startx works

timid trout
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Nope, startx still gives me a black screen

pallid haven
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can you try startx bspwm

timid trout
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Sure, let me reboot

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Nope, my screen is still black

pallid haven
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did you select the nvidia drivers in archinstall?

timid trout
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I didn't have option to

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I selected minimal

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But the guy in tutorial did a command

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And it installed the driver i think

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Something like sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-settings

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I think

pallid haven
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yeah

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you need to manually install driver now

timid trout
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How

pallid haven
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.aw nvidia

quasi bobcatBOT
timid trout
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I do have NVidia-utils installed

pallid haven
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pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils

timid trout
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I did that already

timid trout
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Should i type it again?

pallid haven
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did you reboot after that?

timid trout
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No

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I've continued with tutorial

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He didnt reboot either

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Well let me -Rs NVidia NVidia-utils then

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And -S nvidia nvidia-utils

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Do i need reboot after them?

pallid haven
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yes

timid trout
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Done

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My font is blurrier after install, seems like a low resolution

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A VERY LOW resolution

pallid haven
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yes, you need to manually set resolution

timid trout
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How

pallid haven
timid trout
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I need to install it?

pallid haven
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pacman -S xorg-xrandr

timid trout
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Should i reboot after install?

pallid haven
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no

timid trout
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Seems like it was already installed

pallid haven
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alright

timid trout
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Ok. What now

pallid haven
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run xrandr now

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and send the output

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it should show you all possible resolutions

timid trout
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"Can't open display"

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Darn ITS COMPLICATED

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Uhhh

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My native resolution is 2560x1440

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144hz

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I have free sync (gsync) turned on in my monitor settings (LOD or whatever its called)

pallid haven
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you need to run startx first

timid trout
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My screen is black as always

pallid haven
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xrandr runs in X wm

pallid haven
timid trout
timid trout
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Literally now

pallid haven
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can you try installing a display manager?

timid trout
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Uh

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You probably know my answer

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how

pallid haven
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pacman -S lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter

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or

timid trout
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Wait i have to reboot

pallid haven
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pacman -S sddm

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once they are installed, run systemctl enable sddm or systemctl enable lightdm (for lightdm)

timid trout
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They both?

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Or which one

pallid haven
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any one

timid trout
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Which one's better?

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Uh ill enable SDDM because i know the name from something

celest stone
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It's from KDE

pallid haven
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lightdm

timid trout
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Too late

pallid haven
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its fine

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sddm works with almost everything

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to enable it, run systemctl enable sddm

timid trout
pallid haven
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and reboot

timid trout
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I need to run systemcdl with sudo, right?

pallid haven
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yes

timid trout
pallid haven
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but you are already running as root

timid trout
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Ok it worked with sudo

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So, reboot now?

pallid haven
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yes

timid trout
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What was the command for reboot?

pallid haven
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if it is successful

pallid haven
timid trout
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It created symlink

pallid haven
timid trout
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"Session - bspwm"

pallid haven
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yes

timid trout
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Let me login

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It does nothing

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I can move cursour tho

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But SDDM is stuck

pallid haven
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thats normal

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because you did not set a wallpaper

timid trout
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Ok. What do i do now

pallid haven
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wdym?

timid trout
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Im stuck

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So, what do i do now

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Nothing works, only mouse cursour moves

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Buttons doesnt react, keyboard doesnt work either

pallid haven
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go to a tty

timid trout
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Cntrl alt f2?

pallid haven
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ctrl + alt + fwhatever

timid trout
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Ok im in tty2

pallid haven
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login

timid trout
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Done

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Startx?

pallid haven
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and install (copy) the default configuration for bspwm:

install -Dm755 /usr/share/doc/bspwm/examples/bspwmrc ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc
install -Dm644 /usr/share/doc/bspwm/examples/sxhkdrc ~/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc
timid trout
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In the tutorial the guy configured some bspwm files

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Will it revert the changes

pallid haven
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if you followed it, it will overwrite

timid trout
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But i dont want to revert those changes

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Cuz i want to follow the tutorial

pallid haven
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rename them to something else for now then

timid trout
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Do you know my answer lol

pallid haven
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the convention is to append .bak after the file name

timid trout
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Uh

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What

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Christ maybe ill go back to a DE

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cuz WM's are so complicated lol

pallid haven
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mv ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc.bak

mv ~/.config/sxhkdrc ~/.config/sxhkdrc.bak

timid trout
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Uh

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Wait.

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What do i do now. I've just logged

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The the 2nd one

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How do i type the normal tilde

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When i type tilde its the different one

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The up one

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Do you understand now why did i choose archinstall?
Lmao

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Even if i followed the wiki with installing arch i would destroy it in the first minute probably somehow lol

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Ok so

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I've wasted 3 hours

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Let me reinstall arch with archinstall, but i'll select awesome wm this time

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Because many people recommend it on YouTube

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And its selectable as a WM in archinstall

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So i won't fuck anything

timid trout
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I do

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That will be my 11th arch install

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I wasted 4 days for installing arch now

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I wont give up tho

timid trout
astral frigate
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its just the font that's different

timid trout
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Seriously

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Oh for fucks sake

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I just wiped out my 10th install for nothing

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4 hours lost this time

timid trout
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@pallid haven

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I've just installed arch with awesome

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And

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Uh

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Is there any way to get a login manager?

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Because from what i understand now

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When i boot i have to login and startx

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@celest stone

livid bough
timid trout
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Is that the kde one?

livid bough
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Kdm?

timid trout
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The login manager which is used in kde

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Sorry, typo

livid bough
livid bough
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I haven’t ever used KDE extensively

timid trout
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Ok

pallid haven
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it is called sddm

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anyway, i will not spoonfeed you with commands to run

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I think you should switch to beginner friendly distro for now

livid bough
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You should start with something like Linux Mint or Pop!_OS.

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Not Arch

timid trout
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I did

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I've used nobara, pop, zorin, mint, endavour, element and ubuntu before

livid bough
# timid trout I did

You didn’t take your time to learn with them, really use them, and do your research.

timid trout
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Maybe, i guess

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I REALLY used them tho

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Im just not used to WM's

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Today was my first time installing a WM

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I usually go with gnome so

timid trout
livid bough
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If you just want to try a tiling WM, go ahead and try on one of those.

timid trout
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I tried two

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But seems like it's just not for me

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I cant understand how these work and can't use them.
They are too complicated for me

livid bough
timid trout
livid bough
timid trout
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I dont remember it then

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And its an horrible experience for me

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Idk ill just go back to a normal DE then

livid bough
# timid trout I dont remember it then

i3 has good documentation and easy binds. If you’re going to use a WM at all, use that. Just do it on a distro you know, not changing everything all at once.

timid trout
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The thing is that arch is the easiest for me somehow

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I know it sounds strange

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But

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I can understand more stuff

livid bough
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When I first started using Arch, I used XFCE because that’s what I’d always used. Then I moved to i3 after a bit.

timid trout
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So what do you say, xfce4?

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I always wanted to try budgie or deepin

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But people told me to not try them

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So

livid bough
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Do KDE. That seems to be what you know.

timid trout
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You didnt read my messages which i sent yesterday

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The point is

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I want to try something other than kde and gnome

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And other than cinnamon and mate [cuz i've used them and they were awfull]

livid bough
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Then yea, try XFCE

timid trout
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Is the xfce 4 the newest one?

livid bough
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I stand by saying that you should probably stay with an easier distro though

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Yes

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XFCE is like Debian, it doesn’t update often

timid trout
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Oh, then its not for me

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I want a rolling release you know

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What about lxqt?

livid bough
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I gtg for a test

timid trout
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Cya then

bleak saddle
timid trout
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Generally everything

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Layout, provided programs and stuff

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And their design

bleak saddle
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def sound like you need a WM then

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.aw window_manager

quasi bobcatBOT
bleak saddle
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heres a good list of a lot of window managers for wayland and X as well as an explanation of diff types of WMs

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choose a few then we can try installing, also mayb3 check out unixporn they have a lot of cool setups maybe you want to copy one of theirs

pallid haven
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@timid trout Have you settled down?

timid trout
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@pallid haven what do you think on garuda linux?

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Just downloading it, seems like it will be the one for me

pallid haven
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garuda linux is more bloated than endeavouros

sharp raven
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why not arch?

timid trout
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So i finally gave up on normal arch

timid trout
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Let me just try it

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And we'll see

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[I'll see]

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Endavour is shit btw

pallid haven
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why do you think its shit?

timid trout
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You know what i need?

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It bricked itself 3 times when i tried to install it lol

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God bless that i had arch on ventoy

pallid haven
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WHY IS IT BRICKING!!!?????

timid trout
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You won't believe what am i now

timid trout
pallid haven
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Nothing bricks unless you did something seriously wrong

timid trout
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Yeah. So i did something seriously wrong

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10 times with arch

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3 times with endavour

timid trout
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i'm on archcraft rn btw

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but it's not for me

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i need a pre-customized arch install with a WM or a SERIOUSLY GOOD CUSTOMIZED gnome

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so thats why ill try garuda

pallid haven
timid trout
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lol

timid trout
timid trout
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and i have to start with startx

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look at my usb speed

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NO FUCKING WAY 5MB/PS

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Uhhh its stuck

sharp raven
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bricked.

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RIP

timid trout
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Wait what

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Ok its finished again

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What should i do then

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Wait?

timid trout
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YOOO

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I've turned it on with open source drivers and it worked

timid trout
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What is pentesting software?

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What should i select?

pallid haven
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sigh

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What are we dealing with here

timid trout
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Ok lets go

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This tab

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I mean not 1st but...u get what i mean

fallen rose
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pentesting software is stuff you would use for pentesting

timid trout
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What is pentesting

fallen rose
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penetration testing

timid trout
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I need it

fallen rose
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you dont

timid trout
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I NEED IT

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yeah, just joking

timid trout
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Discover's bad

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What is gnome firmware?

pallid haven
timid trout
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I want the gnome screenshot manager

timid trout
timid trout
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Do i choose gnome firmware for it?

pallid haven
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tf is gnome firmware

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They don't make any

timid trout
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"GNOME Firmware Updater is a GTK application that can be used to upgrade, downgrade and reinstall firmware on devices supported by fwupd. It can unlock locked fwupd devices, verify firmware on supported devices and display all releases for a fwupd device."

pallid haven
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and does that sound like a screenshot tool

timid trout
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No

pallid haven
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You answered yourself

fallen rose
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gnome screenshot tool comes with gnome

timid trout
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I dont want spectacle

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Spectacle bad

fallen rose
pallid haven
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But you're using kde

timid trout
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Can i install gnome screenshot manager in kde?

fallen rose
fallen rose
timid trout
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Oh, ok

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Do i need an app center?

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Gnome-software or discover

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Or none

pallid haven
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pacman is all you need

timid trout
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Ok, then none

pallid haven
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App center is for normies anyway

timid trout
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I want to use my os for mostly gaming and as a daily pc

pallid haven
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uncheck all of that

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Except xanmod probably

timid trout
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I mean they are unchecked, i have a choice to check one or not

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Ok. Do i tick xanmod then?

pallid haven
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Yes probably

timid trout
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And why would i tick it?

pallid haven
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You're fine with the regular kernel most of the time

timid trout
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So

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I wont check anything then

pallid haven
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And also "gaming kernel"

timid trout
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Ok ill tick it

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I dont need any office stuff

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For browser i selected brave

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I don't need email client...

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I selected discord in communication

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Should i check anything here?

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Its an "internet" tab

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I dont use ftp

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But i heard that jdownloader downloads stuff faster than normal browser

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Is it right?

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Im checking qBitTorrent for sure

pallid haven
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Well if you're torrenting, sure

timid trout
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I am a daily torrent user lol

pallid haven
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ok

pallid haven
timid trout
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What?

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Its not here

pallid haven
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Internet Download Manager

timid trout
pallid haven
pallid haven
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Stop pointing it out

timid trout
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Ok ill choose jdownloader, just to try it

timid trout
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VLC, probably?

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And maybe i'll choose obs too

pallid haven
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vlc bad

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mpv better

timid trout
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Its not there

pallid haven
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What the fuck why are they displaying smplayer and not mpv

timid trout
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Idk

pallid haven
timid trout
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Okay

timid trout
pallid haven
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No

timid trout
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I use audacity to record youtube vids usually

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Oh

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What should i select then?
I also like to just listen music

pallid haven
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Tenacity better

timid trout
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Its not there lol

pallid haven
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Its in the AUR

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I think

timid trout
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Ok, and what music player?

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One with gui preferably

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Oh wait

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Ill just install one later

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Ill just go with krita there i guess

pallid haven
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Also doesn't this thing is just basically "choose what you like"

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Why'd you ask us anyway

timid trout
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Right lol

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Ok im pressing ok

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Thats A LOT of packages

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Dkms again bruh

timid trout
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@pallid haven seems like garuda will be my os from now on

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its good and friendly for begginers

pallid haven
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EndeavorOS better

astral frigate
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such as snapper

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the DE is kinda mid but other than that

pallid haven
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The DE is what turns me off from garuda

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And their rice looks mid as hell

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It reeks of either "oooo I'm a dirty hackerman i will hack ur ip address" or "i play games on linux because reviews in youtube and google says linux is better for gaming and garuda gud for gaming"

timid trout
timid trout
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Exactly what i was looking for

astral frigate
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it uses btrfs snapshots to make rollbacks of your root filesystem

timid trout
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I was looking for a futuristic customized DE with distro based on arch

astral frigate
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so if something breaks you just do a rollback

timid trout
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So..its a program?

astral frigate
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u can also retrieve deleted files

timid trout
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Is it that the option in ueif?

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I mean grub

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Grub has an option for rollback

astral frigate
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hmm?

astral frigate
timid trout
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Oh

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Okay thats nice

astral frigate
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like if you accidently delete /etc

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you can literally just roll it back

timid trout
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Uhh what's /etc

astral frigate
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the directory

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/etc

timid trout
pallid haven
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pong 🏓

pallid haven
astral frigate
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if garuda ends up not working for you, id reccomend cachyos

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its a gaming optimized arch based distro

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you can transform Garuda to Cachyos by changing the repos and installing a different kernel

sharp raven
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Did you brick your Garuda yet?

pallid haven
timid trout
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wtf is wrong with my goverlay

pallid haven
timid trout
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Nah i didn't

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Its wrong only with goverlay bruh

timid trout
remote zephyr
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alright i can try offering some help

timid trout
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Coming back to arch now

remote zephyr
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no guarantees though

timid trout
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I know..I know

remote zephyr
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try pressing ctrl + alt + f2

bleak valley
remote zephyr
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or any other function key

timid trout
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Bruh

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Im on tty2 now, i can login

remote zephyr
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nice

bleak valley
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something basic

timid trout
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huh

remote zephyr
lusty bridge
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do pacman -S xterm xclock

timid trout
bleak valley
lusty bridge
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yeah

bleak valley
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which is located at /etc/X11/xinit something

timid trout
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I've only installed neofetch in archinstall

bleak valley
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u can just remove that

remote zephyr
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do pacman -S sxhkd

bleak valley
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and make a .xinitrc in ur home directory

lusty bridge
timid trout
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Done

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Installed it

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What now

lusty bridge
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@timid trout I don't like DEs at all but,
if you're relatively new why don't you use something like kde/gnome first? rather than bspwm...

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you can install it alongside later

timid trout
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Love it

remote zephyr
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so do you understand how bspwm is controlled by using shell commands?

timid trout
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Of course no

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Its the first wm i try

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Except for openbox

remote zephyr
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well, do you now?

lusty bridge
timid trout
pallid haven
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@timid trout dont install arch

timid trout
timid trout
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I won't give up

pallid haven
timid trout
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Anyway

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What do i do now

bleak valley
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neofetch is all u need

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for arch liwux

lusty bridge
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then startx

timid trout
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What about tty 1 tho?

vivid pond
# timid trout

it's trying to launch xorg-twm just delete the xinitrc and make one in the root folder
sudo rm -rf /etc/X11/xinit/xintitrc then sudo touch .xinitrc

bleak valley
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xintit

timid trout
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Uhhh

bleak valley
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xin tit

timid trout
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Guys you gave me 2 commands

lusty bridge
timid trout
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Uhhh

lusty bridge
vivid pond
lusty bridge
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~/.xinitrc is preferred over that one anyways

bleak valley
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whos the loudest wins the battle

timid trout
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Stop.

remote zephyr
timid trout
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STOP.

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Ok

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Ok

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Im gonna talk with @remote zephyr for some time, 'll be back later with news lol

vivid pond
lusty bridge
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what's the alternative?

vivid pond
timid trout
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Uhh so i installed sxhkd but

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It still doesnt work bruh

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I still have the black screen

vivid pond
lusty bridge
vivid pond
lusty bridge
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wot happen?

vivid pond
lusty bridge
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oh my sxhkd in .xinitrc works

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deleted it now cuz why not

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how does bspwm start sxhkd?

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because my .config/sxhkd is weird
the one i use is .config/bspwm/sxhkd

vivid pond
lusty bridge
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if it works it ain't broke

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😃

pallid haven
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bro honestly, arch aint for you

bleak valley
pallid haven
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I'm surprised he could install arch

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Can he not brick it though?

vivid pond
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@timid trout have you used any distros before arch before?

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if so how long have you been using it?

timid trout
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but first time i've ever used linux was 2019

timid trout
vivid pond
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Hmmm

sharp raven
pallid haven
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He's better off with noobie distros

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Until he learns more about Linux, it's better for him to not nuke his computer continuously

sharp raven
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this is not even about learning or knowing Linux.
he just does stuff :D

pallid haven
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Because Windows disallows you to delete system files even as administrator

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That way he can stop fucking up his computer and actually does something productive

timid trout
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Just

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Maybe a easier distro would be better for me

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But

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I just like the arch based distros overall

vivid pond
timid trout
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nah

vivid pond
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endeavor is manjaro but good

astral frigate
timid trout
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@vivid pond
@astral frigate
@pallid haven
Seems like i've finally stopped distrohopping

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And fr this time

livid bough
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Aperture Science

timid trout
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Yep

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I like aperture science

vivid pond
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no need to ping but congrats

timid trout
vivid pond
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lol

timid trout
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But that's a task for later

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Did i mention that i use arch btw?

livid bough
timid trout
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I use arch btw

vivid pond
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L

timid trout
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i am proud to annouce

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that i've bricked up 21 installs in a week

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and im going back to windows

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for info, read stuff under this message
#tech-general message

shut wadi
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im gona barf

timid trout
remote zephyr
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Yeah whats up

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Oh ok

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Have fun i guess

timid trout
timid trout
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but still, i didn't for a loong time.

remote zephyr
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Well, if you ever do decide to go back, study the wiki like a hawk n make sure you understand what each command does

pallid haven
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You just gotta understand the concepts of everything

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to install and use Arch

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Instead of blindly copy pasting a command from some random thread

timid trout
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Basic Navigation ^
For basic movement you can use the arrow keys or keys inspired by vim:
j/k move up and down
l enters the selected directory or opens a file
h returns to the parent directory

More useful keys:
i inspect file or exit from inspecting file. Inspecting a file means to show a preview of the current file fullscreen, available for scrolling.
q quit. You can use this key to close active tab, quit from inspecting or quit from ranger if this is the last tab.

Key bindings and hints ^
A lot of commands can be performed using key bindings, making use of the hints to find the correct mapping.

Command hints show up whenever a mapping has multiple continuations:
g for navigation and tabs
r for :open_with command
y for yank(copy)
d for cut/delete
p for paste
o for sort
. for filter_stack
z for changing settings
u for "undo"
M for linemode
+, -, = for setting access rights to files

Command hints consist of keys in the left column and corresponding commands in right column. When you press a key the corresponding command is invoked or further hints are revealed.```
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posting it for future cuz i might need it

timid trout
timid trout
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how do i change keyboard layout in bspwm?
it's set to US rn. but i want pl layout