#My help thread for everything [mostly basic stuff]
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Ctrl+s to save
Ctrl+x to exit
Got it
.
Because i don't see save on nano command list
So thats why i asked
Ok thanks
I cant exit
Cntrl x doesnt work
Ok nvm it did
Strange
feel free to mention
How to type that
It's a +
Plus?
yeah
Ok thanks!
chmod +x
Okay
Allows a file to be executed
executable*?
Yeah that
Iuhh
Uhh
I've typed startx but they guy did an mistake so i have to come back
How to come back from the black screen?
I want to go back to the terminal because i have to use nano
And my screen is black now
@pallid haven
@celest stone
I don't much about bspwm
But you can try exiting bspwm if you can type some command that can exist bspwm in terminal
OR
you can try switching tty
Screen is literally black
There was a shortcut
To come back to terminal
But i don't remember it
Somebody told me it before
Switch something or smth
Well
Uhhhhhh
Let me restart my pc maybe
Change to another terminal, control f3
Doesn't work
Hmm I guess restart
ctrl+alt+f3
Ah I knew I was forgetting something
Werid how I remember the action but not the command itself
Oh no fucking way
I changed the thing
But
My screen is still black after i run startx
Maybe it's an issue with drivers?
try doing chmod +x ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc
Didn't i do that already?
you can switch ttys btw
plural of tty
ctrl+alt+f1 -> switches to tty1
ctrl+alt+f2 -> switches to tty2
ctrl+alt+f3 -> switches to tty3
and this goes until f12 probably
can you share the video you are referring to?
It could be an issue with my driver but not sure
Hey there! My name's Ilham and I use Arch. Welcome to the very first episode of All Things BSPWM, a series which I'll cover all the basics of the Binary Space Partition Window Manager [BSPWM].
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Let me try
can you send the output of lspci -vnn | grep VGA here?
Its already installed
Nope, startx still gives me a black screen
can you try startx bspwm
did you select the nvidia drivers in archinstall?
I didn't have option to
I selected minimal
But the guy in tutorial did a command
And it installed the driver i think
Something like sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-settings
I think
How
.aw nvidia
I do have NVidia-utils installed
pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils
I did that already
That was the command in tutorial
Should i type it again?
did you reboot after that?
No
I've continued with tutorial
He didnt reboot either
Well let me -Rs NVidia NVidia-utils then
And -S nvidia nvidia-utils
Do i need reboot after them?
yes
Done
My font is blurrier after install, seems like a low resolution
A VERY LOW resolution
yes, you need to manually set resolution
How
I need to install it?
pacman -S xorg-xrandr
Should i reboot after install?
no
Seems like it was already installed
alright
Ok. What now
"Can't open display"
Darn ITS COMPLICATED
Uhhh
My native resolution is 2560x1440
144hz
I have free sync (gsync) turned on in my monitor settings (LOD or whatever its called)
you need to run startx first
My screen is black as always
xrandr runs in X wm
even after installing drivers?
Monitor changed resolution tho because it displayed a resolution change
can you try installing a display manager?
Wait i have to reboot
pacman -S sddm
once they are installed, run systemctl enable sddm or systemctl enable lightdm (for lightdm)
any one
It's from KDE
lightdm
Too late
its fine
sddm works with almost everything
to enable it, run systemctl enable sddm
and reboot
I need to run systemcdl with sudo, right?
yes
Huh
but you are already running as root
yes
What was the command for reboot?
if it is successful
reboot
It created symlink
👍
yes
Ok. What do i do now
wdym?
Im stuck
So, what do i do now
Nothing works, only mouse cursour moves
Buttons doesnt react, keyboard doesnt work either
go to a tty
Cntrl alt f2?
ctrl + alt + fwhatever
Ok im in tty2
login
and install (copy) the default configuration for bspwm:
install -Dm755 /usr/share/doc/bspwm/examples/bspwmrc ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc
install -Dm644 /usr/share/doc/bspwm/examples/sxhkdrc ~/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc
Exactly those files
if you followed it, it will overwrite
rename them to something else for now then
Do you know my answer lol
the convention is to append .bak after the file name
mv ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc.bak
mv ~/.config/sxhkdrc ~/.config/sxhkdrc.bak
Uh
Wait.
What do i do now. I've just logged
The the 2nd one
How do i type the normal tilde
When i type tilde its the different one
The up one
Do you understand now why did i choose archinstall?
Lmao
Even if i followed the wiki with installing arch i would destroy it in the first minute probably somehow lol
Ok so
I've wasted 3 hours
Let me reinstall arch with archinstall, but i'll select awesome wm this time
Because many people recommend it on YouTube
And its selectable as a WM in archinstall
So i won't fuck anything
Believe in yourself more lol
I do
That will be my 11th arch install
I wasted 4 days for installing arch now
I wont give up tho
It bricked 9 times, and now for the 10th time i just don't have any more patience to deal with bpmwm
its the same thing
its just the font that's different
Seriously
Oh for fucks sake
I just wiped out my 10th install for nothing
4 hours lost this time
@pallid haven
I've just installed arch with awesome
And
Uh
Is there any way to get a login manager?
Because from what i understand now
When i boot i have to login and startx
@celest stone
sudo pacman -S sddm
sudo systemctl enable sddm
sudo reboot
Is that the kde one?
Kdm?
Don’t just randomly ping people. They are not obligated to (continue) help you with every issue you have.
I think so, yes
I haven’t ever used KDE extensively
it is called sddm
anyway, i will not spoonfeed you with commands to run
I think you should switch to beginner friendly distro for now
You didn’t take your time to learn with them, really use them, and do your research.
Maybe, i guess
I REALLY used them tho
Im just not used to WM's
Today was my first time installing a WM
I usually go with gnome so
I don't have much to config there
If you just want to try a tiling WM, go ahead and try on one of those.
I tried two
But seems like it's just not for me
I cant understand how these work and can't use them.
They are too complicated for me
Tiling WMs? No, you just haven’t learned them yet.
I spent a lot of time watching tuts on yt how to use them
Nothing is too complicated, but you can’t just jump into the deep end. You must learn slowly and take your time.
But when it comes to actually using it
I dont remember it then
And its an horrible experience for me
Idk ill just go back to a normal DE then
i3 has good documentation and easy binds. If you’re going to use a WM at all, use that. Just do it on a distro you know, not changing everything all at once.
The thing is that arch is the easiest for me somehow
I know it sounds strange
But
I can understand more stuff
When I first started using Arch, I used XFCE because that’s what I’d always used. Then I moved to i3 after a bit.
Than on other distros
So what do you say, xfce4?
I always wanted to try budgie or deepin
But people told me to not try them
So
Do KDE. That seems to be what you know.
You didnt read my messages which i sent yesterday
The point is
I want to try something other than kde and gnome
And other than cinnamon and mate [cuz i've used them and they were awfull]
Then yea, try XFCE
Is the xfce 4 the newest one?
I stand by saying that you should probably stay with an easier distro though
Yes
XFCE is like Debian, it doesn’t update often
I gtg for a test
Cya then
what part did you not like? be specific
heres a good list of a lot of window managers for wayland and X as well as an explanation of diff types of WMs
choose a few then we can try installing, also mayb3 check out unixporn they have a lot of cool setups maybe you want to copy one of theirs
@timid trout Have you settled down?
@pallid haven what do you think on garuda linux?
Just downloading it, seems like it will be the one for me
garuda linux is more bloated than endeavouros
why not arch?
I've bricked it 10 times in the span of 3 days
So i finally gave up on normal arch
But it has some cool stuff
Let me just try it
And we'll see
[I'll see]
Endavour is shit btw
why do you think its shit?
You know what i need?
It bricked itself 3 times when i tried to install it lol
God bless that i had arch on ventoy
WHY IS IT BRICKING!!!?????
You won't believe what am i now
I dont know!!
Nothing bricks unless you did something seriously wrong
During a fucking installation with setup
i'm on archcraft rn btw
but it's not for me
i need a pre-customized arch install with a WM or a SERIOUSLY GOOD CUSTOMIZED gnome
so thats why ill try garuda
basically endeavouros can do that
i've already broken some stuff and dependiences while trying to uninstall music daemon
lol
yeah but i can't install it lmao
login manager doesn't work [i've managed to destroy it somehow lol]
and i have to start with startx
look at my usb speed
NO FUCKING WAY 5MB/PS
Uhhh its stuck
pentesting software is stuff you would use for pentesting
What is pentesting
penetration testing
I need it
you dont
Yeah what's wrong with this tab
I want the gnome screenshot manager
Because its Nice
.
Do i choose gnome firmware for it?
"GNOME Firmware Updater is a GTK application that can be used to upgrade, downgrade and reinstall firmware on devices supported by fwupd. It can unlock locked fwupd devices, verify firmware on supported devices and display all releases for a fwupd device."
and does that sound like a screenshot tool
No
You answered yourself
gnome screenshot tool comes with gnome
or you can install it separately via the package name
But you're using kde
Can i install gnome screenshot manager in kde?
which is probably gnome-screenshot or something similar
yes but it wont integrate as well
pacman is all you need
Ok, then none
App center is for normies anyway
I mean they are unchecked, i have a choice to check one or not
Ok. Do i tick xanmod then?
Yes probably
And why would i tick it?
You're fine with the regular kernel most of the time
It's advertised as a "performance kernel"
And also "gaming kernel"
Ok ill tick it
I dont need any office stuff
For browser i selected brave
I don't need email client...
I selected discord in communication
Should i check anything here?
Its an "internet" tab
I dont use ftp
But i heard that jdownloader downloads stuff faster than normal browser
Is it right?
Im checking qBitTorrent for sure
Well if you're torrenting, sure
I am a daily torrent user lol
Anyway...
ok
IDM better
Internet Download Manager
.
I know
Ok ill choose jdownloader, just to try it
Ok sorry
VLC, probably?
And maybe i'll choose obs too
Its not there
What the fuck why are they displaying smplayer and not mpv
Install it with pacman later
Okay
Is audacity good on linux?
No
I use audacity to record youtube vids usually
Oh
What should i select then?
I also like to just listen music
Tenacity better
Its not there lol
Ok, and what music player?
One with gui preferably
Oh wait
Ill just install one later
Ill just go with krita there i guess
Cmus
Also doesn't this thing is just basically "choose what you like"
Why'd you ask us anyway
@pallid haven seems like garuda will be my os from now on
its good and friendly for begginers
EndeavorOS better
garuda has better sys defaults
such as snapper
the DE is kinda mid but other than that
The DE is what turns me off from garuda
And their rice looks mid as hell
It reeks of either "oooo I'm a dirty hackerman i will hack ur ip address" or "i play games on linux because reviews in youtube and google says linux is better for gaming and garuda gud for gaming"
What's snapper?
For me its perfect
Exactly what i was looking for
it uses btrfs snapshots to make rollbacks of your root filesystem
I was looking for a futuristic customized DE with distro based on arch
so if something breaks you just do a rollback
So..its a program?
u can also retrieve deleted files
hmm?
no like rollback your filesystem
Uhh what's /etc
Maybe it's not WM but still it holds up to what i wanted
pong 🏓
good choice, just use whatever you feel comfortable with
if garuda ends up not working for you, id reccomend cachyos
its a gaming optimized arch based distro
you can transform Garuda to Cachyos by changing the repos and installing a different kernel
Did you brick your Garuda yet?

looks like you did
I've bricked it 30 minutes ago
alright i can try offering some help
Coming back to arch now
no guarantees though
I know..I know
try pressing ctrl + alt + f2
or any other function key
nice
something basic
do you have sxhkd
do pacman -S xterm xclock
I dont know
its trying to use the default xinitrc
yeah
which is located at /etc/X11/xinit something
I've only installed neofetch in archinstall
u can just remove that
do pacman -S sxhkd
and make a .xinitrc in ur home directory
this will install a basic gui terminal to test if xorg works
@timid trout I don't like DEs at all but,
if you're relatively new why don't you use something like kde/gnome first? rather than bspwm...
you can install it alongside later
Love it
I've used linux since 2019
so do you understand how bspwm is controlled by using shell commands?
well, do you now?
oh okay then
But in openbox, no keyboard hotkeys work
@timid trout dont install arch
Maybe something was broken idk
I will install arch
I won't give up
first, start with a beginner friendly distro
I want to get this rice
Bspwm rice with polybar and eww widgets
https://github.com/gh0stzk/dotfiles -- Dotfiles
https://github.com/gh0stzk/dotfiles -- bspwm dotfiles
Anyway
What do i do now
dont need anything else
neofetch is all u need
for arch liwux
What about tty 1 tho?
it's trying to launch xorg-twm just delete the xinitrc and make one in the root folder
sudo rm -rf /etc/X11/xinit/xintitrc then sudo touch .xinitrc
xintit
Uhhh
xin tit
Guys you gave me 2 commands
this creates a .xinitrc file that startx uses to start your wm
Uhhh
you don't have to delete the /etc one
true
~/.xinitrc is preferred over that one anyways
whos the loudest wins the battle
Stop.
hey check your dms for a second
STOP.
Ok
Ok
Im gonna talk with @remote zephyr for some time, 'll be back later with news lol
you shouldn't put sxhkd in the xinitrc
bspwm loads it by default
Uhh so i installed sxhkd but
It still doesnt work bruh
I still have the black screen
do you have a terminal emulator installed
oh
also
#1105480527626108970
wot happen?
they put sxhkd in the xinitrc
oh my sxhkd in .xinitrc works
deleted it now cuz why not
how does bspwm start sxhkd?
because my .config/sxhkd is weird
the one i use is .config/bspwm/sxhkd
use .config/sxhkd/ lmao
bro honestly, arch aint for you
L take
@timid trout have you used any distros before arch before?
if so how long have you been using it?
i've been switching between linux and windows often
but first time i've ever used linux was 2019
pop os, nobara, ubuntu, zorin os, and some other
Hmmm
@timid trout
maybe this is the case.
because you seem determined to bomb your system by doing weird stuff for no reason
We've been telling him that to no avail
He's better off with noobie distros
Until he learns more about Linux, it's better for him to not nuke his computer continuously
this is not even about learning or knowing Linux.
he just does stuff :D
In that case, he should just use Windows
Because Windows disallows you to delete system files even as administrator
That way he can stop fucking up his computer and actually does something productive
I'm not
Just
Maybe a easier distro would be better for me
But
I just like the arch based distros overall
then use endeavor
nah
cachyos
@vivid pond
@astral frigate
@pallid haven
Seems like i've finally stopped distrohopping
And fr this time
Aperture Science
no need to ping but congrats
I just need to find a little dose of neurotoxine
lol
Yes, you may have once or twice
I use arch btw
i am proud to annouce
that i've bricked up 21 installs in a week
and im going back to windows
for info, read stuff under this message
#tech-general message
im gona barf
@remote zephyr
i've summarised all the distros that i've bricked in the past week under this message
even i had to give up
but still, i didn't for a loong time.
Well, if you ever do decide to go back, study the wiki like a hawk n make sure you understand what each command does
You just gotta understand the concepts of everything
to install and use Arch
Instead of blindly copy pasting a command from some random thread
Basic Navigation ^
For basic movement you can use the arrow keys or keys inspired by vim:
j/k move up and down
l enters the selected directory or opens a file
h returns to the parent directory
More useful keys:
i inspect file or exit from inspecting file. Inspecting a file means to show a preview of the current file fullscreen, available for scrolling.
q quit. You can use this key to close active tab, quit from inspecting or quit from ranger if this is the last tab.
Key bindings and hints ^
A lot of commands can be performed using key bindings, making use of the hints to find the correct mapping.
Command hints show up whenever a mapping has multiple continuations:
g for navigation and tabs
r for :open_with command
y for yank(copy)
d for cut/delete
p for paste
o for sort
. for filter_stack
z for changing settings
u for "undo"
M for linemode
+, -, = for setting access rights to files
Command hints consist of keys in the left column and corresponding commands in right column. When you press a key the corresponding command is invoked or further hints are revealed.```
posting it for future cuz i might need it
go on with your life, don't mind 'bout it
how do i change keyboard layout in bspwm?
it's set to US rn. but i want pl layout