#[Solved] Apparently very cursed internet issue

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final steppe
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So we are in the part where we have rebooted and have arch successfully on our system (hehe) but it cant connect to the internet. Kinda standard issue but it gets worse.

Using iwd shows the internet, signal strength etc and lets us put in the passcode for it but pinging an ip address or website gives Network is unreachable or temporary failure in name resolution

Using network manager on the other hand shows no networks

(Also ping us when replying so we notice quicker)

west furnace
fallow plankBOT
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Weirdly it works in the iso but not in the install

Ari RERA 43 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1101413524560941086 message) It may be that your Wi-Fi card isn’t entirely compatible with the drivers included in the kernel. Pl…

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Forgot to say that sorry

west furnace
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Did you install linux-firmware?

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Go into the ISO and see what driver is being used there, then install that in the main system.

chrome birch
fallow plankBOT
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Maybe not

chrome birch
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Using network manager on the other hand shows no networks
You either use iwd, or network-manager to connect. Not both. But you can set iwd as the backend for network-manager, rather than wpa_supplicant.
So if you have iwd itself running, network-manager may be conflicting with it. Also, you would need to configure network manager as well, if you decide to use it.

What did you actually do to set up internet? We can go from there.
And what do you wish to have? The two options are:

  • Using iwctl from the terminal to connect, just like in archiso.
  • Using network-manager, which allows GUI apps to manage your wifi too.
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Don't worry, I'm sure it is not cursed :D
If it worked out of the box in the archiso, it should be simple to fix.

fallow plankBOT
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Definitely using network manager

Gozenka ↩️

[Reply to:](#1101413524560941086 message) > Using network manager on the other hand shows no networks
You either use iwd, or network-manager t…

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When figuring out the issue before, each were disabled while we tried the other one

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At least im pretty sure they were

chrome birch
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OK. I guess the best way would be to set it up from scratch, if you are not sure you configured network manager correctly.
I personally use iwd only, with its own dhcp and with systemd-resolved for DNS.
Someone else might help with the network manager setup if you need help.

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You can also check the journal for errors, possibly giving clues to the specific issue.
journalctl -x -b -p 3

fallow plankBOT
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Oh wait networkmanager doesn't even see the device

chrome birch
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ps -e | grep iwd to check if iwd is running.
I guess you should check archwiki for network manager and make sure it is set up correctly.

fallow plankBOT
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Oh I think I see the shenanigans

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Doing ip link only shows lo and eno1

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Not wlan0

chrome birch
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but you said you could connect before?
does rfkill show wlan0 or something similar?

fallow plankBOT
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It shows wlan

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Well the thing under the device name is psy0 so maybe thats not what im looking for

chrome birch
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phy0 is the wifi device; that's correct

fallow plankBOT
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Ah alright

fallow plankBOT
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Might just reinstall arch and see if that somehow fixes it (probably wont)

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Also im guessing theres no way to easily install what comes with the iso

west furnace
chrome birch
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there is no need to assume there is a firmware / driver issue. still might be, but should set up network manager properly first.

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i.e. they were able to connect with iwctl, but not network manager.

west furnace
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Oh I missed that whole conversation, sorry.

fallow plankBOT
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The device shows and lets me complete stuff, but the internet doesnt actually work

Gozenka ↩️

[Reply to:](#1101413524560941086 message) i.e. they were able to connect with iwctl, but not network manager.

chrome birch
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yep. you connected to the wifi, but could not reach the Internet. right?

west furnace
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Oh, I see. I completely misunderstood the original issue. Sorry, I’ll leave since I can’t help here.

chrome birch
west furnace
chrome birch
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no DNS / dhcp config?

west furnace
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No, just installed and enabled NetworkManager. I have made changes since then though, like using avahi for dns instead of resolved.

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Maybe I’ve had it easy for some reason

fallow plankBOT
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Aha

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Got it

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For anyone figuring out how in the future, ip route show showed nothing for us until we put dhcpcd in the terminal (make sure its installed)