[SOLVED] CSM support, accident legacy install

[bitter swift]

hi guys, recently @odd sonnet helped me found out that im using CSM and legacy support, I do not have a boot partition and is currently booting from root filesystem, I am in UEFI mode

now i did convert the partition into GPT, and made a EPI partition and copyed /boot files in, but i got error while reinstalling the bootloader grub-install: error: efibootmgr faild to register the boot entry: No such file or directory

and got 2 warning saying efi variables are not supported, it might be cuased by booting into the arch iso

and the command i issued is grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory-efi --bootloader-id=GRUB

help

[bitter swift]

And I’m using archcraft

Grub

Not sure where is secure boot

[odd sonnet]

That's not grub. That's your UEFI. And you still have CSM enabled

[bitter swift]

????

yea i disabled it now

that's the one i sent u yesterday

and i disabled secure boot

[odd sonnet]

Then install Vanilla Arch

[bitter swift]

😦

[odd sonnet]

Are you dual booting?

[bitter swift]

no

u can see i only hav 2 part

*3

[odd sonnet]

Then backup and clean install arch

Way painless than trying to convert to GPT

Ik you have a backup drive so

[bitter swift]

come on bro, i installed EFI and everything, just havta reinstall the bootloader

inorder to make it boot

and it will be all fine

[odd sonnet]

Then do it

You don't have important data on your root partition, right?

[bitter swift]

yea

[bitter swift]

like /root or /

[odd sonnet]

Because if you don't mint your root partition, why not clean installing the system?

[odd sonnet]

Root = /

[bitter swift]

i do

[odd sonnet]

Then how about copying that data to your other drive? Then clean install?

[bitter swift]

and idk if i cp everything back somewhere and copy it back will work

like the symlinks and stuff

/dev, /proc /sys etc

it's gonna be very broken

[odd sonnet]

Lol, you don't need that. Just copy your home folder stuff

[bitter swift]

and now i got another problem after disabling CSM, now the bios never shows

and i can't set anything now

or the UEFI

idk how u call it, but now it's just blackscreen

and it booted into the usb

do i reset the bios thing again?????

[bitter swift]

i dont wanta reinstall the packages:(

and now i can't do that becuz bios doesn't work

[odd sonnet]

That's Because your system doesn't find anything to boot from so it boots from the usb if any

[bitter swift]

HOW TO get BIOS bACK

[odd sonnet]

The bios will boot anything from any drive that is attached

[bitter swift]

ok, how to go back to that setting thing

[bitter swift]

this

[odd sonnet]

If no system is no the main drive , it will keep looking for one

[odd sonnet]

That's your uefi bios

Just spam the key to load it

[bitter swift]

ok wat key

it dont show

[odd sonnet]

On mine it's ESC key

[bitter swift]

on mine it's DEL key and now it doesn't work

[odd sonnet]

Depends of your system

Tbh I would just backup everything then clean install arch on uefi mode

[odd sonnet]

Make a list of your packages

[bitter swift]

Ok sure I’ll do it later

[odd sonnet]

Ik the pain but you want a working UEFI system, right? And even have suspend so when you leave your apps open it remains the same

[bitter swift]

But I cp my /opt right?

[odd sonnet]

Why

[bitter swift]

I rly dunno how I’m ment to do this

[odd sonnet]

You don't need to copy anything but your home folder

[bitter swift]

I did installed arch once

[bitter swift]

Ye

[odd sonnet]

Why are you copying everything if you will clean install? Just copy your home folder data

[bitter swift]

Idk, Becuz it’s the other part problem

The main part don’t hav prob

I want my grub conf as well

Like the theme and stuff

And lot of stuff I want:(

[bitter swift]

Ok I hav a problem, how to boot back in that UEFI settings

The key doesn’t work don’t work and don’t even show

And r u sure that is not bios??

I’m pretty sure it says boot into bios with that key

Not UEFI,cuz idk wat key/when/how

So now I got 2 problems 1 can’t boot into bios/doesn’t show, 2. The gpt partition and esp

[odd sonnet]

I would just reinstall at that point 💀

[odd sonnet]

lol, why

[odd sonnet]

just get your home folder stuff. nothing else

[bitter swift]

Idk y not

[odd sonnet]

you don't need anything from the root

[odd sonnet]

that's what I told em. clean uefi reinstall

[bitter swift]

Nah I’ll try just doing it without a reinstall

Tbh

It’s 2 complex if a reinstall

And isn’t seem to be required

[odd sonnet]

Yes

[odd sonnet]

It's really not

Just use archinstall or something

[bitter swift]

Ik, but like

Wait so if I do that it will install the esp and use the cpt table right?

[odd sonnet]

CPT?

I think you mean gpt

Idk about that

[odd sonnet]

it will delete everything, make a new GPT partition table, then you make ESP and so on manually, or use archinstall script

use gparted live iso to prepare the drive

[bitter swift]

Nonono gpt

[bitter swift]

Archinstall

If I just do that

There isn’t a option saying that

[odd sonnet]

wdym

[bitter swift]

ESP

Like gpt

[odd sonnet]

archinstall will take care of everything, unless you want to do the wiki way of install

but you have to wipe the drive with gparted live iso beforehand

[bitter swift]

And so why archcraft Cinom didn’t

[odd sonnet]

idk, blame archcraft devs

[bitter swift]

😂

[odd sonnet]

that's why we don't recommend other scripts

.s archbased

[radiant cliff]

Users of unofficial install scripts and Arch-based distributions may not make support posts using the arch tag. This comes from the Arch Code of Conduct. By installing the system in a way that you do not have control over, you do not know how your system is set up or if a script silently broke something. This can cause huge issues with support, especially if people don't know you used a script.

If you need support with your system, use the other distros tag.

[bitter swift]

Fuck archcraft

[odd sonnet]

lmao

anyways, get gparted iso and add it to your ventoy usb

[bitter swift]

Ventory?

I just dd the iso into it

[odd sonnet]

use ventoy so you can multiboot

and have both arch and gparted isos

[bitter swift]

In a 4Gb usb?

[odd sonnet]

yes

gparted iso is small

like 400mb

[bitter swift]

Like wat parted iso?

[odd sonnet]

same with archiso

[odd sonnet]

gparted iso, find it on it's website

[bitter swift]

It’s called gparted??

[odd sonnet]

literally google gṕarted

then get the iso

[bitter swift]

Bro I’m not near my cmptr I n

Ok now if I just do a archinstall, it will fix everything right?

[odd sonnet]

1st, wipe the drive and make a new gpt table with gparted live iso then use archinstall

[bitter swift]

Can I just use gparted in archinstall

Becuz I can’t do changes to the usb since can’t boot into system and don’t hav another usb

So can’t write the usb and install ventory

[mortal wind]

um, with the risk of sounding dumb because I don't think I understood the problem correctly, can you not boot into a live usb, repartition the Arch drive so there's an efi partition at the start, regenerate fstab and reinstall grub?

[bitter swift]

Yes

I can boot into the live iso

But not the main system

[mortal wind]

Looks like that would be quicker than reinstalling, especially if you already installed a de/wm

[bitter swift]

Becuz CSM support

[bitter swift]

Ikr but that guy want me to reinstall

[mortal wind]

reinstall is more easy to do though

[bitter swift]

PS I just created the partition already

Only need to grub-install

[bitter swift]

But ended up with no such file or directory

[mortal wind]

wait what why would you copy /boot into /efi

[bitter swift]

I did

But the system just doesn’t boot

How to make it like the boot partition

PS that partition isn’t efi, idk if it will function properly

[mortal wind]

uh the solution that comes to mind right now for me is to just delete everything in /boot, and then format the efi partition correctly (it needs to have an esp flag and be at the start of your partition tables) and install the bootloader again

also convert your partition tables to gpt if you haven't already

[bitter swift]

I told u idk Y but arch iso won’t boot as UEFI mode PS how do u wipe it

[mortal wind]

live usb should work

[bitter swift]

Yea the aw way(sgdiak -g)

[bitter swift]

There is no /sys/firmware/efi

[mortal wind]

you need to use a live usb anyways to edit root filesystem partitions

[bitter swift]

Yes

Ok so wats the solution

Or just reinstall as that guy said

[mortal wind]

reinstall should be the easiest solution tbh

[bitter swift]

Ye but I rly want to keep everything as they are

But ok

I’ll try if no solution

Ok so now is can’t install efi boot loader Becuz arch live iso don’t boot into UEFI mode and bios is gone because disabled CSM support

[mortal wind]

csm support shouldn't matter for getting into bios or not unless you have some very old graphics card etc that doesn't support uefi
(I mean bios as in the bios menu of the pc, not whether it is bios or uefi)

[bitter swift]

?

[mortal wind]

no idea why it doesn't boot in uefi mode though, that never happened to me

[odd sonnet]

there's no gparted on archiso

[odd sonnet]

then use cfdisk

[bitter swift]

Idk but after disabling it the logo just not show and can’t go into bios

[bitter swift]

Ye sure, just delete everything?

[odd sonnet]

.aw cfdisk

[radiant cliff]

Arch Wiki: Cfdisk

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cfdisk

[odd sonnet]

im at the stream so

[bitter swift]

O ok

Wait what??

[odd sonnet]

tho try using cfdisk to delete everything

[mortal wind]

delete everything in /boot and reinstalling grub should work, no?

[odd sonnet]

and make a new gpt partition table

[bitter swift]

Yes how

[mortal wind]

honestly I don';t think I understood the problem

[bitter swift]

Just the SG disk thing?

Autocorrect

[bitter swift]

It’s simple just I legacy install with MBR without efi

And boot from root file system

So try to correct it

[odd sonnet]

wiki tells to use gdisk to make a new gpt partition table

.aw gdisk

[radiant cliff]

Arch Wiki: Gdisk

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gdisk

[odd sonnet]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GPT_fdisk

[bitter swift]

Ok so wat about my bios now the logo don’t show and can’t go into bios even I spam the key

[bitter swift]

CSM support hav problem

[mortal wind]

then boot into a live usb, convert to gpt, make a efi partition at the start of the drive, arch-chroot into the main arch install, rm-rf /boot (mount it first if you made a seperate partition), mount /efi, generate fstab, then install grub

[odd sonnet]

archiso can do it

[bitter swift]

Yea I got problem during the grub-install

Come on that’s the problem

And idk Y the CSM thingy matter

And it just “broke” my bios

And I I hav no idea how to boot into bios

So ya

[bitter swift]

.

I mean that’s the problem

The UEFI thing

The arch iso for some reason legacy boot without UEFI mode

So that’s the problem now

And tbh there is a swap problem cuz of a resize as well

[mortal wind]

can you not do the mentioned stuff on a legacy boot arch usb?

[bitter swift]

?

[mortal wind]

not sure since I've never tried it, but I think you should be able to mount gpt partitions just fine even on a legacy booted arch iso?

[bitter swift]

that's why im trying a reinstall

that should solve 99% of it

the only thing not solved is bios

thing

so do i reinstall?

[mortal wind]

that was the soulution that came to my mind when I saw your question, but a reinstall would be the easiest method
Also no idea about the bios thing - do you have a screen output?

[bitter swift]

yes its fine, but the grub-install isn't fine

no output

just blackscreen

[mortal wind]

so you don't get display output at all? even when just booting to linux?

[bitter swift]

it look like booted twice since the keyboard's light is off a while after tunning on

[bitter swift]

yea

[mortal wind]

what's your graphics card?

[bitter swift]

it dont boot

becuz no boot loader

and no legacy support so cant boot from root file part

[bitter swift]

i think getforce sth

like a 1060

[mortal wind]

oh then its' bios should be uefi so that shouldn't be a problem,,

hmm

[bitter swift]

?

[mortal wind]

no idea at all about the bios thing tbh

[bitter swift]

ikr the company logo dont show after disabling CSM

[mortal wind]

old graphics card like for example gtx 400 series etc don't work when you disable csm

[bitter swift]

this

[odd sonnet]

just boot to archiso and use gdisk

[bitter swift]

tbh idk, it should be 10<idk><idk>

[bitter swift]

yes, but for wat

[odd sonnet]

already shared a shot of how to

[mortal wind]

seems like they aren't getting display output(?)

[odd sonnet]

gdisk should make a new gpt partition table

[bitter swift]

but if i hav plugged in the usb, it will boot into usb

automaticly

[bitter swift]

like how

[bitter swift]

if no usb(bootable usb) then it's going to be on, but black screen

else, it will boot into usb

since it dont hav a bootloader

i mean that's the point of EFI right?

[mortal wind]

oh so you do have display out then

so just do what I and Parker said after booting into the usb

[bitter swift]

I think it defaultly set the bootloader to the EFI partition, but it didn't have a proper grub-install

[bitter swift]

no error at all

it's just normal arch live iso

just some random ones

that doesn't matter

idk why but like some live isos hav problem

like the service just defaultly doesn't work

[mortal wind]

yea you need to partition your drive and install grub etc while booted on the arch usb

[bitter swift]

yes

ik

the problem is that cant

it says no such file or directory

[bitter swift]

come on

i mention this 1000th time already

ik the step for installing the bootloader

but just doesn't work

[odd sonnet]

I already said to boot to archiso, use gdisk to make a new partition table gpt style then proceed with archinstall

you need to wipe everything, not install the bootloader

[odd sonnet]

this

[bitter swift]

which i did

[bitter swift]

wait wat?

[mortal wind]

You can also just convert your existing partitions to gpt and make en efi partition at the start like what I said but if you can't do it then just reinstall like Parker says

[bitter swift]

which is wat i did

[odd sonnet]

yup. I already told em how to

[mortal wind]

Did you mount the efi partition before installing grub?

[bitter swift]

yes ofc, else where do i put the --efi-directory

ohhhh, maybe becuz i didn't put efi mount in fstab

lemme try put it in fstab

[mortal wind]

If this is the exact command you ran then the --efi-directory flag is wrong

[odd sonnet]

.aw grub

[radiant cliff]

Arch Wiki: Grub

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub

[bitter swift]

but idk if it matter since can't even see the systemd

[bitter swift]

wait wattt???

wtf

fuck chatgpt

[odd sonnet]

the heck.. why are you using chatgpt for support

[bitter swift]

idk, becuz it works last time

[odd sonnet]

[mortal wind]

Lmao

[odd sonnet]

big brainz moment

[bitter swift]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-meme-gif-25947987

lmao

ok wat should i do

??

[mortal wind]

From the arch wiki:

Then follow the below steps to install GRUB to your disk:

Mount the EFI system partition and in the remainder of this section, substitute esp with its mount point.

See substitute esp

[bitter swift]

?

which wiki

the grub one?

[mortal wind]

Bruh

[bitter swift]

OMG BRO WTF

I sucks fr

wait wat?/

ok guys just give me a command that works

ok does that mean i just rename /efi to /boot and it should be fine?

[odd sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-angry-triggered-smash-computer-gif-17473293

been doing that for hours

[bitter swift]

😐

[mortal wind]

Nooo

[odd sonnet]

[bitter swift]

:(((

[mortal wind]

Just read the wiki
family dinner starts now so I'll check back later

[odd sonnet]

I already gave you all the info and commands

[bitter swift]

bruh

[mortal wind]

Same tbh

[odd sonnet]

.. helpvampire

[radiant cliff]

Too few arguments for command addnote!
Usage: .addnote <name> <text>

[bitter swift]

lmao

[odd sonnet]

... helpvampire

[radiant cliff]

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[bitter swift]

f

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btw wat is the diffrent from bios and uefi?

im soooo confused

do i just do this?
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=esp --bootloader-id=GRUB

OMG GUYS THE INSTALL WORKS

after changing efi to esp

lmao

lemme reboot

[mortal wind]

That's interesting because esp is wrong

[bitter swift]

?

[mortal wind]

^

[bitter swift]

OMG GUYS IT BOOT INTO THE MAIN SYSTEM

AFTER 3 DAYS

OGM

JEASE

[mortal wind]

Or maybe grub-install has a default esp value and it defaulted to that ig

Anyways congrats

[bitter swift]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhhhh-meme-wild-squad-burn-gif-15863050

there is problem now

it dont show grub

and the bios dont show as well

and swap dont start as well

yea guys how to fix the swap thingy

oh no, i think this is another problem

a grub problem

it screen show grub as black

and cant see anything

but if i press esc, it stop it from booting

and if i press enter it still boot

[odd sonnet]

esp is supposed to be where it is mounted

you have to tell grub install where's your esp

eg, /boot

or /boot/efi

[bitter swift]

ok i get it, now before boot, gpu dont show anything, but works fine after the boot

[bitter swift]

yea --efi-directory=esp

[odd sonnet]

still, do a clean install so your system has all the right mounting points

[odd sonnet]

it's not esp

[bitter swift]

under /esp there is boot and EFI

[odd sonnet]

esp is a placeholder

[bitter swift]

......

but it works

[odd sonnet]

/esp is not a valid mounting point. you will get more issues in the future

[bitter swift]

?

i hav a dir called esp under /

[odd sonnet]

you should mount it under /boot

[bitter swift]

and now there is a dir in /boot/grub called x86_64-efi

[odd sonnet]

ikr

[bitter swift]

....

so wat is the proper way of installing that

[mortal wind]

Lol

[bitter swift]

this is awful

[mortal wind]

That works i guess

[bitter swift]

yea, i just mkdir /esp

[odd sonnet]

oh well... I already said what I should. if you still think youre right, go ahead

[bitter swift]

wat should it be like?

[mortal wind]

Well that still works

[bitter swift]

just tell me

wat should it be in

[odd sonnet]

eg, /dev/sda1 should be mounted at /mnt/boot/efi

being it /boot/efi

.aw grub

[radiant cliff]

Arch Wiki: Grub

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub

[odd sonnet]

.aw installation guide

[radiant cliff]

Arch Wiki: Installation guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide

[bitter swift]

ok do i just change it to /boot/efi then?

[bitter swift]

wait, so i cp -r /boot /mnt/boot first?

[bitter swift]

and then i mkdir /mnt/boot/esp

[odd sonnet]

nope

[bitter swift]

and then i change fstab

[odd sonnet]

you're complicating things way more

[bitter swift]

😦

wait wat

so i just rename /esp to /mnt/boot ?

(including fstab mount etc)

[bitter swift]

and is that it?

[bitter swift]

ikr

that's wat i relised after bare installing arch(manully)

that's why i install arch based distro

ok so wat should be happening

do i just change /esp to /mnt/boot

[odd sonnet]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GPT_fdisk#Tips_and_tricks

tells the right steps to dirty convert to gpt

[bitter swift]

that's wat i did

sgdisk -g /dev/nvme0n1

[odd sonnet]

tho I recommend a clean install so you mount everything where it should be

[bitter swift]

give me a answer

[odd sonnet]

you asked how to clean install. we told you how, yet proceed to ignore and ask again

[bitter swift]

this?

[odd sonnet]

ikr. I'm tired of this. so goo luck to em

[mortal wind]

Honestly if your system works don't fix it imo

[bitter swift]

how to update-grub without using the mkconfig thing

cuz that's wat i usally do

cuz like that will only do it to /boot/grub

im a complete mess

[Solved] CSM support, accident legacy install

#1081505407136178206

[odd sonnet]

There's no other way. And if you update arch it will update grub with it

[bitter swift]

??

like which grub

i got 2 right?

[odd sonnet]

What

[bitter swift]

i want to completly migrate

one is /boot/grub(using rn) one is /esp/boot/grub

[odd sonnet]

You can only have one bootloader

[bitter swift]

yes, it's just /esp/boot/grub but the configs are saving to /boot/grub

how to prevent that and automaticly save the stuff(upgrade etc) into /esp/boot/grub

[odd sonnet]

Why don't you just clean install at this point?

[odd sonnet]

Wrong mounting point

If you already backed up, just clean install arch

[bitter swift]

bro comeon everything is solved and now u want me 2 clean install arch

[bitter swift]

wat should it be

*where

do i replace it???

like how

[odd sonnet]

It may break as some updates will expect grub to be on /boot or /boot/efi

Not /esp

[mortal wind]

Lol

[odd sonnet]

Big brainzzzz moment

[bitter swift]

????? wdym /boot/efi??

[odd sonnet]

[bitter swift]

so now under /esp there is GRUB and boot, is it fine if i move it in

[odd sonnet]

That's the mounting point where grub should be

[bitter swift]

(including the fstab mounting point etc)

wat should be under /boot/efi?

[odd sonnet]

Which shouldn't exist

It should be /boot, not /esp

[bitter swift]

ok ok i get it, but it will still save data to /boot/grub anyways

can u do a ls /boot/efi?

[odd sonnet]

Bruh

[bitter swift]

ok im changing it

[mortal wind]

imo if you want a sane system reinstall grub again and remove these /esp etc you made
You can just use the system as is though, shouldn't really affect anything I think

[mortal wind]

I don't think it technically matters?

[bitter swift]

I only made /esp

[odd sonnet]

Ask the wiki. I already told em about

[bitter swift]

ok where should it be

/boot/efi right?

so i do a grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=GRUB?

??

and i mount /dev/nvmep3(the esp) as /boot??

?

@odd sonnet

@mortal wind

ok this is the only question i hav

do i rm -rf /boot and then mount the esp as /boot

?

CSM support, accident legacy install

[bitter swift]

yo guys and now it doesn't work and boot into the usb

im really wondering if it's booting from the esp or from root filesystem

[bitter swift]

now the problem is #1081509174829137992

and idk if this is one of the problem as well, the boot takes like a extra 10secound longer then be4 this, or it might just be not renderd

[mortal wind]

sounds like it ran into some problem on boot and waited a few seconds to resolve it before choosing a second valid option but idk, this is all speculation

no idea about the screen thing though

honestly if I were you I'd either A) use it as it is since it works or B) reinstall grub correctly

[bitter swift]

i did

now there is only a EFI under /boot/efi

that should be wat u mean by that

[bitter swift]

before reinstalling it "correctly" it's timeout I think is fine

i dont exactly remember if it is fine or not

is there a problem with my gpu??

[SOLVED] CSM support, accident legacy install

[mortal wind]

probably not

ignore what I said earlier since you're using a gtx 1000

[bitter swift]

*GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

[bitter swift]

is there a problem with that?

[mortal wind]

I was concerned your gpu didn't have a uefi bios when I was troubleshooting you having a black screen but that wasn't the issue so your gpu is fine

[bitter swift]

but now i hav a black screen until like 20more second later

maybe that's Y #1081509174829137992

[bitter swift]

does the PCIe board matter? since the reset thing is after that board so i took that board out, not sure if i connect it properly

[bitter swift]

it's a problem with tty i think

[bitter swift]

ye

[bitter swift]

yo @mortal wind rly need ur help in #1081896200053202984