[Paused temporarily] Problem with X.

[half plaza]

Trying to mount drive

[ashen shore]

You probably don't need to reinstall your system, that's the windows approach

And while it works it's usually a waste of time, and your files

If the X is not starting you could find the logs and scroll through them until you find the error

[half plaza]

There is absolutely no chance that a single person in this entire server will be able to identify the issue and fix it

[ashen shore]

You could've accidentally switched to a tty, did you reboot?

[half plaza]

I've had this exact problem a month ago and after asking multiple different people for help and ttying to fix it for 2 weeks, nothing came of it.

No I didn't

[ashen shore]

There most definitely is, hardest part is always cooperation

[half plaza]

And yes i've rebooted mutliple times

[ashen shore]

Then read/send the X logs here

[half plaza]

Bruh

[lyric zinc]

You need to mount the drive to a directory

[half plaza]

Are you sure you want to try to fix it? Reinstalling and reconfiguring everything would probably only take like 2h

[ashen shore]

We are continuing from #tech-general, he's trying to reinstall a system with broken X

[half plaza]

Can i ls the directories of the drive to see existing directories?

[ashen shore]

This is probably the easiest way

[ashen shore]

Once you mount it

[half plaza]

I wouldn't be so sure but ok, lets try

[lyric zinc]

First you mount the drive to a directory and then you ls that directory

[half plaza]

Well I don't know to what directory to mount it to

[lyric zinc]

Is it temporary?

[ashen shore]

You can make a new one

[lyric zinc]

Or permanent drive

[ashen shore]

Let's try fixing X first

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less

[lyric zinc]

Why create this support thread then?

[half plaza]

It has a clone of the boot drive as it was the previous time this bug happened

[ashen shore]

We got evicted from #tech-general ?

[lyric zinc]

Oh I thought there was another thread in support

Apologies

[lyric zinc]

But fix the title and the question tho

[ashen shore]

^

[half plaza]

Wait

Before i fiz it

I want to actually do it

[ashen shore]

Do what?

[half plaza]

Mount it

[ashen shore]

Ok

Press q

To exit less

[half plaza]

Yeah

[ashen shore]

Then create a directory you will use as your drive somewhere, I recommend the home dir

So mkdir backup

[half plaza]

Inside /dev/sda3?

[ashen shore]

Inside ~

[half plaza]

I created backup in /home/giorkos

[ashen shore]

Since the drive has multiple partitions run fdisk -l /dev/sda

[half plaza]

Sorry you can't see much

[ashen shore]

3.6 terabytes?

[half plaza]

Yeah

[ashen shore]

Then /dev/sda3 is your partition

[half plaza]

Yes it is

Maybe I didn't communicate that clearly.

[ashen shore]

Run mount /dev/sda3 ~/backup

[half plaza]

mount point does not exist

[ashen shore]

Are you sure you made the folder?

[half plaza]

Yes

[ashen shore]

Well it can't find it

[half plaza]

Ah shit

[ashen shore]

Big B?

[half plaza]

Small

[ashen shore]

Did you make it just now?

[half plaza]

Yes

[ashen shore]

Rerun the mount command then

[half plaza]

Oh no i made it before the mount command

[ashen shore]

Then why's it not working?

[ashen shore]

You are logged in as root

That's why

[half plaza]

So?

What even is root@server giorkos

[ashen shore]

~ is the home folder of current user

[half plaza]

How do i login as giorkos

[half plaza]

Ohh

[ashen shore]

You need to specify it explicitly since you are not logged in as giorkos

mount /dev/sda3 /home/giorkos/backup

[half plaza]

Well It worked now

Wtf this is such a weird way of doing this

[ashen shore]

ls -la /home/giorkos/backup

[half plaza]

What does -la do?

[ashen shore]

-l = more detailed look -a = all files, including hidden ones

[half plaza]

Oh thanks

[ashen shore]

What does it output?

[ashen shore]

Huh

[half plaza]

Ok now i can slowly backup all the files I need, which aren't many

That's great

Does backup get unmounted when the system restarts?

[ashen shore]

Microsoft basic data drive with a linux looking folders?

[ashen shore]

Yes

[half plaza]

You know you can chroot, right?

Also what would happen if backup already had stuff in it?

And then I mounted?

Also you can use a live USB to do the job

[half plaza]

Wdym?

.aw chroot

[crisp leaf]

Arch Wiki: Chroot

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chroot

[ashen shore]

No need to chroot

[half plaza]

Isn't that the same thing as what I have here?

[ashen shore]

Only thing broken here seems to be X

But they insisted on re-installing

[half plaza]

Yes

.aw xorg

[crisp leaf]

Arch Wiki: Xorg

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg

[half plaza]

And for good reason.

[ashen shore]

Are you using vanilla arch?

[half plaza]

Sorry if that comes across as angry or anything, I'm not. I've just experienced this exact problem before.

I guess so yes.

I have plasma x11

Try reinstalling xorg and the video drivers, then the display manager and desktop

I already tried that

All of those things

None worked

.aw journalctl

[crisp leaf]

Arch Wiki: Journalctl

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Journalctl

[half plaza]

Will help to track issues

man journalctl

Ask journalctl about the errors

systemctl status also helps

How is man supposed to help

What am I supposed to do with a 1.5k line log

[half plaza]

So you learn how to use journalctl then use it to track the errors

[ashen shore]

Hold j

[half plaza]

https://media.tenor.com/nALwHXiKyTMAAAAM/miles-edgeworth-hold-it.gif

[ashen shore]

Maybe try a more user-friendly distro?

Unfortunate embed failure

[half plaza]

Oh

Fair enough sorry

[ashen shore]

Reinstalling is usually a last-resort when fixing issues

[half plaza]

I just saw this whole thing and didn't understand what it was

Journalctl will show you what went wrong

[half plaza]

This is a last resort

[ashen shore]

It really isn't

[half plaza]

I'm just doing it first this time.

[ashen shore]

I never needed to reinstall Linux because of some issue, I just figured out how to fix it

[half plaza]

So check logs on journalctl

[ashen shore]

I only reinstall it when I feel like my penguin is too dirty

(I'm bloat-phobic)

[half plaza]

If you're too new to Linux, consider using mint

But that's a bit offtopic

It's ok.

[ashen shore]

Can't Ubuntu based distros to a beginner

[half plaza]

Now check journalctl logs and track the issue

[ashen shore]

In my experience it's a giant pain to use

[half plaza]

Mint is not Ubuntu

[ashen shore]

Maybe try Garuda/EndevourOS

[ashen shore]

I said nothing about Ubuntu itself

I said Ubuntu-based

[half plaza]

But anyways, check journalctl@half plaza

I'm checking it.

Okay well I kind of have to go to the gym, so i'll come back to this later. Thanks for your help though! I really appreciate finally understanding how mount works.

And i'm not trying other distros.

I'm here and staying here.

[half plaza]

Try journalctl -b -p err

See ya later

Gtg