#New to Linux!

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dense glade
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I'm actually trying to dual boot arch with my win10 but i don't really know how the setup works since it's just a terminal.
thing to note is that I'm on a legacy bios mode.
soo need someone to help me install it asap

slate plinth
dense glade
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also mbr file system

slate plinth
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Yep, that's in there

dense glade
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i don't really get it..

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🟡

wicked light
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yeah then probably arch isn't really for you tbh

slate plinth
# dense glade i don't really get it..

Installing Arch onto a system the "standard" way is a rather complicated process. It gets a lot easier if you understand the steps being taken and why, but it's difficult if you don't. Arch expects you to have a decent understanding of what you're doing at all times, and if you don't, to do the work to learn.

If you aren't ready to dig into how it works just yet, another, easier distro is probably better suited for you. Personally I've heard very good things about Fedora.

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You can use the archinstall script that'll walk you through the process, but I'm not sure if it works well with BIOS/MBR setups or not.

wintry panther
wicked light
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true

exotic plume
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My main problem with the install guide is a lack of explanation for how to actually partition the drive

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The gentoo install guide, by comparison, is far more descriptive in such steps

wintry panther
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for BIOS you only need one partition

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so it's not that complex

hollow spindle
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@dense glade you might wanna try installing arch in a vm with the install guide or someones help just to get used to it

sinful salmon
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honestly everyone says the install guide assumes you know a lot of stuff but I don't think that's actually true. all of the install guide gives you the commands and details what to do in a way i believe most non-linux could understand

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the only part it doesn't do that for is partitioning

hollow spindle
hollow spindle
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i dont know though bc its hard to see from my point of view

sinful salmon
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kinda wish the install guide would mention cfdisk tho. fdisk is just 🤢

hollow spindle
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gentoo handbook explains partitioning wonderfully

hollow spindle
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cause like

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it means fdisk the editor not the command

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cfdisk is technically fdisk

sinful salmon
hollow spindle
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i might be wrong

hollow spindle
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which includes the fdisk command and cfdisk command

sinful salmon
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99% of people aren't gonna click on the link to the fdisk page and read the thing that says cfdisk exists imo

hollow spindle
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yeah but thats kind of on them technically

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i dunno it sounds redundant

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maybe the example should say cfdisk

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also the wiki page doesnt mention cfdisk afaik

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.aw fdisk

earnest vigilBOT
sinful salmon
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it does in a coloured box

hollow spindle
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yeah

sinful salmon
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fdisk was really scary to me when i was first installing arch. i think mentioning cfdisk would be a huge improvement

hollow spindle
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agreed

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vegancookies thinks cfdisk is the antichrist because it only accepts ‘yes’ for write confirmation

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and not y

sinful salmon
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it's a small sacrifice to make for not having to type h every few commands

hollow spindle
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lmao absolutely

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‘sacrifice’

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also its just faster and less work for your brain

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because you see what it looks like in an intuitive way at all times

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otherwise youd have to memorize everything to get the same speed and safety

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anyway

hollow spindle
sinful salmon
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ig the arch wiki is a wiki
we can always edit it

hollow spindle
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fair

valid gust
valid gust
dense glade
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i think my main prob is that i got partitioning issues

wintry panther
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ok

wintry panther
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🤨

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archinstall isn't great for dualbooting

valid gust
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Archinstall script is broken

dense glade
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🙁☹️

dense glade
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i dont really get it but what if i just replace it with my windows 10?

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thinking bout that

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i dont really know if i should do that

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maybe i shouldnt

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im not really left with any other choice

dense glade
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true

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but that just doesn't give the 'feel'

wintry panther
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dualbooting isn't that hard

dense glade
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then help ig?

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im on mbr file system with legacy bios

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its not letting me make partitions during installation

wintry panther
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what are you using to partition and what's not working?

dense glade
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yea i neeed to go through the installation again to remember that

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lemme just do it rq

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@wintry panther

wintry panther
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MBR only allows 4 partitions by default

dense glade
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exactly

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mbr

wintry panther
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you only need one linux partition for BIOS

dense glade
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so what should I do?

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get rid of any partition from my win10 and shrink it to death?

wintry panther
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how big is sda4?

dense glade
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195.3

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GiB

wintry panther
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and is that your linux partition?

dense glade
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i have free unallocated space

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of about 195.3

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same as sda4

wintry panther
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what's sda4 for?

dense glade
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nothing really

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it's empty

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but part of win 10

wintry panther
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can you show the rest of cfdisk?

dense glade
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kay

wintry panther
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that's a weird partition scheme...

dense glade
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yea..

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sdb is my usb actually

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(i think)

wintry panther
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I know

dense glade
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okay so uh what's next?

wintry panther
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well I'm confused about why windows made three partitions that big

dense glade
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how else is it supposed to be?

wintry panther
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well typically it's a 500m, most of the disk, then a partition that's about 1 gb

dense glade
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oh well

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not really a computer enthusiast ig

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is it because it's a laptop?

wintry panther
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could be

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the manufacturer could have done a weird setup

dense glade
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so what can we do about that?

dense glade
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...

earnest vigilBOT
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Too few arguments for command note!
Usage: .note <name>

wintry panther
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is sda4 being used for anything

dense glade
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empty

wintry panther
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you could try deleting that and hope it doesn't break anything

dense glade
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I'm just gonna gpt and uefi first ig

hollow spindle
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based

dense glade
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okay so uh what gpu am i suppose to choose here?

wintry panther
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well, what GPU do you have?

dense glade
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both Intel and amd and i chose all open sources

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well whatever i fucked my windows anyway

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being installed

dense glade
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okay so I've got some real problem now

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my disk size is 1tb

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but