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zenith bone
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i installed games and performances are quite bad, i was wondering if i truly had the good drivers, how do i check? i found some stuff online but nothing really gave me what i wanted

cosmic stag
zenith bone
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nvidia rtx 3060 ti

cosmic stag
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you should look into this wiki page

zenith bone
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oh god

cosmic stag
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?

zenith bone
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the wiki...

cosmic stag
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contains everything you need

zenith bone
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00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation TigerLake-H GT1 [UHD Graphics] (rev 01)
DeviceName: Onboard - Video
Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device 1533

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA106M [GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile / Max-Q] (rev a1)
Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device 1533
Kernel driver in use: nvidia

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are those the good drivers?

cosmic stag
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are you on the normal linux kernel

zenith bone
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yes

cosmic stag
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should be it

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your using x11 right?

zenith bone
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x11?

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i honestly have no clue what that is

cosmic stag
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a display server protocol

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what de are you using

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(gnome, kde, etc...)

zenith bone
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kde

cosmic stag
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open the terminal

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and use this script

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echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE

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should give you either x11 or wayland

zenith bone
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wayland

cosmic stag
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wayland is the newer protocol but it often has problems with nvidia

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you should reboot

zenith bone
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off to x11 it goes

cosmic stag
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when your at the log in screen

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you should find the bottom left drop down menu that says

zenith bone
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oh yeah i can do that

cosmic stag
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Plasma (Wayland)

zenith bone
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brb

cosmic stag
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and change it to

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Plasma (X11)

zenith bone
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it should be better?

cosmic stag
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it should be

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try a game

zenith bone
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i got csgo but idk how to put it in fullscreen

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but when i launch the menu it does look like it is on low fps

cosmic stag
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check your cpu scaling governor

zenith bone
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how lol

cosmic stag
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cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

zenith bone
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also yeah no i get 20 fps

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[justdie@zenith bone ~]$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
powersave
[justdie@zenith bone ~]$ ^C
[justdie@zenith bone ~]$

cosmic stag
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yeah you want to set that

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to performance

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not powersave

zenith bone
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how do i?

vivid summit
cosmic stag
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sure

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but i've heard of many

vivid summit
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and it works pretty well

cosmic stag
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experiences

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i've only seen it in gnome

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that works well

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idk about anything else though

zenith bone
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anyways i want to play roblox but the patched version of wine available for it isn't working well with wayland

cosmic stag
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grapejuice mouse locking

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will work fine in x11

zenith bone
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no

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the inverse

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when you mouve your vision it also moves your mouse

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which isn't normal

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and its genuenly terrible

cosmic stag
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oh yeah don't use patched wine

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they reccomended just using default now

zenith bone
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no its their own patch wine

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the normal one doesn't work

cosmic stag
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their own?

zenith bone
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yeah

cosmic stag
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what wine are you using

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wine --version

zenith bone
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wine-tkg or smt

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i mean i got both

cosmic stag
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i don't believe it comes from them

zenith bone
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but grapejuice is using wine-tkg

cosmic stag
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the tkg

zenith bone
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idk but they use it

cosmic stag
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wine 7.15 and above should work fine

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normal

zenith bone
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i mean idk

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so how do i get that to go to performance?

cosmic stag
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Install cpupower

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sudo pacman -S cpupower

zenith bone
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ok

cosmic stag
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after you've done that check your current cpu info

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sudo cpupower frequency-info

zenith bone
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[justdie@zenith bone ~]$ cpupower frequency-info
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: intel_pstate
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: Cannot determine or is not supported.
hardware limits: 800 MHz - 4.60 GHz
available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 4.60 GHz.
The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency: Unable to call hardware
current CPU frequency: 1.92 GHz (asserted by call to kernel)
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes

cosmic stag
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set all cpu cores to performance

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with

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sudo cpupower frequency-set -g performance

zenith bone
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[justdie@zenith bone ~]$ sudo cpupower frequency-set -g performance
Setting cpu: 0
Setting cpu: 1
Setting cpu: 2
Setting cpu: 3
Setting cpu: 4
Setting cpu: 5
Setting cpu: 6
Setting cpu: 7
Setting cpu: 8
Setting cpu: 9
Setting cpu: 10
Setting cpu: 11
Setting cpu: 12
Setting cpu: 13
Setting cpu: 14
Setting cpu: 15

cosmic stag
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try relaunching csgo now

zenith bone
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still ass lol

cosmic stag
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enable and start cpupower

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sudo systemctl enable --now cpupower

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and reboot and check again

zenith bone
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its ass

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the exact same shit

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tho with csgo, i never had much good performances

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no matter on ubuntu with the latest drivers or not

cosmic stag
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what nvidia packages have you installed

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pacman -Qs nvidia

zenith bone
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[justdie@zenith bone ~]$ pacman -Qs nvidia
local/egl-wayland 2:1.1.10-1
EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 515.65.01-1
NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.5-1
Nvidia VDPAU library
local/nvidia 515.65.01-8
NVIDIA drivers for linux
local/nvidia-utils 515.65.01-2
NVIDIA drivers utilities
[justdie@zenith bone ~]$

cosmic stag
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oh and how are you running csgo in linux

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with steam?

zenith bone
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yes

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installed from pacman

vivid summit
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no, they're pirating it

zenith bone
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ayo?

cosmic stag
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i don't think there is a csgo package ❓

zenith bone
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wait what?

cosmic stag
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are you using steam

zenith bone
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no i download csgo from steam

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lol

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i installed steam from pacman

cosmic stag
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oh then can you check the game settings

vivid summit
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I assume you're running the native version?

cosmic stag
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in steam

zenith bone
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yes i am running the native version

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wait i can force to use steamplay

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maybe it will help

cosmic stag
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maybe

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but if it doesn't try proton experimental

zenith bone
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ok

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but i don't play csgo much

vivid summit
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people were saying that it didn't work on proton

zenith bone
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if csgo is the only issue

cosmic stag
zenith bone
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out of curiosity, what would be the best settings for grapejuice?

vivid summit
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maybe it's just experimental that doesn't work though

zenith bone
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what would be good settings for grapejuice?

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there are a bunch of em

cosmic stag
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did you install

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grapejuice through aur

zenith bone
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no i got it from the git

cosmic stag
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or compiled manually

zenith bone
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i got it from their gitlab

cosmic stag
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well do you have an AUR helper

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if so see if you got it from the AUR

zenith bone
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an aur helper?

cosmic stag
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i guess you don't

zenith bone
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no i didn't

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i go one from idk where and its terrible but i got a normal one

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the good one i assume

cosmic stag
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this

zenith bone
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thats what i used

cosmic stag
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remove wine tkg

zenith bone
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huh

cosmic stag
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do you remember having

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to enable the multilib repository

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or running a ./install.py

zenith bone
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i remember installing the wine

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and i remember enabling multili

cosmic stag
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open grapejuice

zenith bone
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ok

cosmic stag
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go to Player

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tab

zenith bone
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hm

cosmic stag
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set the renderer to DX11

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and enable

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DXVK

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you should be able to find all these options

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in the settings

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of Player

zenith bone
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do i install prime offload sink?

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prime offloading

cosmic stag
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that allows you to

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switch between iGPU and GPU

zenith bone
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i mean its ass

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how do iswitch then?

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cuz rn its ass

cosmic stag
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you should use optimus-manager

zenith bone
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do i have to install anything from terminal?

cosmic stag
cosmic stag
zenith bone
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so i get it from the aur

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right?

cosmic stag
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yes

zenith bone
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how do i make it resolve dependencies automaticly?

cosmic stag
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the AUR package pkgbuild

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should check if there is any conflicting

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dependencies

zenith bone
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==> Making package: optimus-manager 1.4-4 (Tue 23 Aug 2022 03:23:56 PM UTC)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Missing dependencies:
-> python-dbus
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> ERROR: Could not resolve all dependencies.

cosmic stag
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i guess not

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do

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sudo pacman -S python-dbus

zenith bone
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its doing it

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did it

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what now

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says i gotta do that

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systemctl status optimus-manager.service

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Unit optimus-manager.service could not be found.

cosmic stag
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this is in their

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github

zenith bone
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Unit optimus-manager.service could not be found.
[justdie@zenith bone optimus-manager]$ optimus-manager --switch nvidia
bash: optimus-manager: command not found
[justdie@zenith bone optimus-manager]$

cosmic stag
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it seems like it didn't install optimus-manager

zenith bone
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it said not to

cosmic stag
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did you use an aur helper

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or just used

zenith bone
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i used makepkg si

cosmic stag
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makepkg -si

zenith bone
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oh its working now

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it says i have to reboot

cosmic stag
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reboot

zenith bone
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i will see ya in another world

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WARNING : no power management option is currently enabled (this is the default since v1.2). Switching between GPUs will work but you will likely experience poor battery life.
Follow instructions at https://github.com/Askannz/optimus-manager/wiki/A-guide--to-power-management-options to enable power management.

You are about to switch GPUs. This will forcibly close all graphical sessions and all your applications WILL CLOSE.
(you can pass the --no-confirm option to disable this warning)
Continue ? (y/N)

GitHub
A guide to power management options · Askannz/optimus-manager Wiki

A Linux program to handle GPU switching on Optimus laptops. - A guide to power management options · Askannz/optimus-manager Wiki

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do i select yes?

cosmic stag
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yes

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your switching to

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nvidia

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gpu right

zenith bone
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i just did

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and i tried on roblox, sadly tho performances aren't much better

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idk what im doing wrong but its annoying

odd adder
zenith bone
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so should i go back to wayland or not?

odd adder
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Both powersave and performance are scaling based and shouldn’t make massive differences like they would with the normal governors, but it was worth a shot

cosmic stag
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you probably won't benefit from switching to wayland

odd adder
cosmic stag
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and since you want to use grapejuice

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it's reccomended that you use x11

odd adder
zenith bone
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i mean on ubuntu with the latest drivers it ran smoothly

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had awesome performances

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but i just didn't enjoy ubuntu

odd adder
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Have we confirmed the system didn’t load nouveau?

cosmic stag
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no

zenith bone
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shouldn't we?

odd adder
cosmic stag
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for grapejuice it is

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but wayland is typically

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more smoother indeed

zenith bone
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wayland isn't working properly with grapejuice

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it has mouse bugs

odd adder
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Then it’s fine

zenith bone
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there are some fixes but its like i don't wanna have to deal with the hassle

odd adder
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Wayland is the default unless there’s showstoppers (like driver bugs or incompatibilities)

zenith bone
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so how do i check if its not using nouveau tho?

cosmic stag
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i don't know if that is accurate enough

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what boot loader are you using?

odd adder
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Also since you have a 3060 the open source kernel module may be an option in this case

cosmic stag
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grub or

cosmic stag
odd adder
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Yea

zenith bone
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isn't the open source really bad?

odd adder
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No?

zenith bone
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oh ok

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everyone would say we all know open source won't be as good as proprietary

odd adder
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I’m talking about the nvidia open kernel module, not nouveau

zenith bone
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i know

odd adder
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Nouveau is shit because it’s locked out of setting gpu clock speed

zenith bone
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then why are almost every distro pretty much making it default?

cosmic stag
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licensing problems probably

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copyright

zenith bone
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hm

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ok so what do i do? do we check if its truly using nvidia?

odd adder
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nvidia-open is the package

zenith bone
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can't i use the latest driver like the 510?

vivid summit
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you're most likely using the proprietary drivers

zenith bone
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could wee check?

vivid summit
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because nouveau is blacklisted by the nvidia package

odd adder
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Not exactly

vivid summit
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what?

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yes it is

zenith bone
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alright well what now

odd adder
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lsmod | grep nouveau

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To just be extra sure it isn’t loaded somehow

zenith bone
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it didn't say anything

odd adder
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Alright

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So the nvidia drivers are being weird then

zenith bone
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just my luck lol

odd adder
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You installed lib32-nvidia-utils as well right

vivid summit
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they did

zenith bone
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im not supposed to?

vivid summit
odd adder
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Looks correct

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Still, trying nvidia-open is worth a shot

vivid summit
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I suppose

zenith bone
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i install it?

vivid summit
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yeah

odd adder
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Yup, will probably ask to replace nvidia with it

zenith bone
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done

vivid summit
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reboot now

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hopefully optimus works with nvidia-open

zenith bone
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done

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[justdie@zenith bone optimus-manager]$ optimus-manager --switch nvidia
WARNING : no power management option is currently enabled (this is the default since v1.2). Switching between GPUs will work but you will likely experience poor battery life.
Follow instructions at https://github.com/Askannz/optimus-manager/wiki/A-guide--to-power-management-options to enable power management.

You are about to switch GPUs. This will forcibly close all graphical sessions and all your applications WILL CLOSE.
(you can pass the --no-confirm option to disable this warning)
Continue ? (y/N)

GitHub
A guide to power management options · Askannz/optimus-manager Wiki

A Linux program to handle GPU switching on Optimus laptops. - A guide to power management options · Askannz/optimus-manager Wiki

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do i say yes?

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i used --switch nvidia and not switch nvidia-open tho

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idk if its gonna be important

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done

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lets try grapejuice again

odd adder
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Might wanna try something more native

zenith bone
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its working perfectly

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constantly hitting the 60 fps cap

cosmic stag
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nvidia open

zenith bone
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now lets try csgo

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bro

cosmic stag
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csgo still bad?

zenith bone
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no but someoneone said i was using the nouveau

vernal hinge
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he was wrong

zenith bone
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i fucking hope he was

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oh hey there lenny

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how are you

vernal hinge
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you're using the proprietary driver you can even check if you want by using lsmod to see if it's loaded

vernal hinge
odd adder
zenith bone
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good, good

zenith bone
vernal hinge
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Ohh

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Did you change to nvidia-open

odd adder
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Yea

zenith bone
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well i did so and it helped a lot

vernal hinge
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cool

zenith bone
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csgo 10x better

cosmic stag
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open source winning again

odd adder
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What allowing the community to fix the project themselves does to software

vernal hinge
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lmao

odd adder
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If only it was an option for non turing cards

vivid summit
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huh, intresting

zenith bone
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m getting 200 fps lol

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shit better than on pc

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tho i doubt it issues the max graphics from default

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well thanks a lot yall

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now i can play boblox on linux

vivid summit
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👍

odd adder
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Np

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If only we could close these tickets lmao

zenith bone
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well holy shit this was one hell of a big problem tho

vernal hinge
zenith bone
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what was the problem with the first driver?

cosmic stag
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being closed source

vernal hinge
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I've not had performance issues with the proprietary driver

cosmic stag
vernal hinge
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Have had stability issues though

cosmic stag
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(joke)

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performance better than windows now?

zenith bone
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i mean i enjoy being able to play csgo BUT WHEN I GET FUCKING SNIPED THROUHT A DOOR ITS GETTING ANNOYING

vernal hinge
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I would've thought it was that it was using integrated graphics or in power saving mode

zenith bone
vernal hinge
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but hey it works now

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hooray

odd adder
zenith bone
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thats the spirit

vernal hinge
zenith bone
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out of curiosity, how many ppl did it take to fix the issue?

odd adder
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To get the normal drivers working can take a lot of probing confs and shit to get it behaving properly

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Ik at one point it just kept setting the dpi really fucking low and needed to be manually set on xorg confs

vernal hinge
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I've had a lot of weird bugs with the proprietary driver never had it affect performance specifically though

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graphical bugs and straight up refusing to work

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Problems with suspend

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but never performance impact

zenith bone
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ight yall, thanks and have a marvelous, wonderfull day