NSMB: Flower Journey

[rapid shale]

Great work Frosty

[sick sorrel]

Bro just repeated absolutely everything I said

[placid urchin]

9 sobs

but its light enough

im not making it any more LIGHTER and thats FINAL you and windows LOSE

[sick sorrel]

Now the flames on the house were extinguished because of so much sobbing

[verbal ruin]

5

Do your maths frosty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Frosty described with 1 single emoji
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1372828280750870558.webp?size=96

[placid urchin]

LMAO

[onyx osprey]

this literarily is just spongebob ong
It Looks Way more That ingame 😭

But So Yummy

[rapid shale]

no?? 😭

make it light pink

😭 😭 😭

it will be much better

[placid urchin]

the thing is that its purple cause otherwise it'd blend with mario's overalls
and if it was TOO light it would look worse...

[wooden cedar]

was making it anything like making custom powerups for mvslo

[placid urchin]

I’d say mvlo is far easier but that was cause I didn’t write the code myself and I could just reuse existing things
like if I made bubble flower in mvlo I’d have an easier time (so far only kingkittyturnip coded it in mvlo so maybe he knows more lmao)
altho the texture editing for the player models was moreso the same

[wooden cedar]

gotcha

[rapid shale]

I'll murder yall someday

[stone steppe]

The hard part about new++ is I gotta redo every player texture to be extended

That’s the main reason I have done so little of my ice flower and bubble flower

[dusty cedar]

Dayum everything is going togheter

[rapid shale]

you are making bubble flower too??

this powerup became a trend in this community lmao /hj

[sick sorrel]

Almost everything in this server always tends to become a trend

Whenever someone does something in their hack, everyone else wants to do it too

It's not inherently a bad thing tho

[verbal ruin]

that applies for modding in general

Or at least with Mario ones i think

[rapid shale]

Yeah, i do not think that either

for me it's the matter how well is done and how the creator is going to use in levels/how often

[sick sorrel]

It tends to happen very frequently in this server, an example of this is when Illy changed her pipes and then everyone else wanted to make custom pipes too, or when Illy released the Ninji and suddenly everyone wanted to use it in their hacks, or when the "Mario/Luigi Start" code hack was made and everyone started using it, or the fact that almost everyone is using the code hack that changes the worldmap walking animation to the running one, the list goes on

[rapid shale]

She just reminded me to make an updated sprite for everyone to use

i did that way before but worse

you can even see it on my old vids

[sick sorrel]

Not to mention when everyone here were NWAV fans and after I learned how to make SSEQ's suddenly everyone started wanting to have SSEQ's in their hacks and started requesting songs like crazy

If it wasn't by the fact that I learned how to make SSEQ's, every single hack in here would be using NWAV

[rapid shale]

I think mainly due to file size reasons (and it's way cooler)

[placid urchin]

honestly though you def inspired me to make sseqs lmaooo

tho it was also cause the more i played thru my hack and asked other people to beta test too, i started seeing more issues that were coming with it
like for example when you tested it on real hardware, every level using an nwav made the screen keep shaking 😔

[rapid shale]

i want to beta test too 😭

i would milk out this whole hack to find any issue

[placid urchin]

too bad you wont
-# maybe one day

im not publicly asking because of semi obvious reasons i think

[rapid shale]

lmao, irl i have the same problems regarding groups

[sick sorrel]

I honestly admire it, I won't be in this community forever, so more people needs to learn how to make SSEQ's so that they don't always depend on me

I was actually planning on writing a document or something explaining how to make SSEQ's with LMMS so more people would be interested in learning them

[sick sorrel]

Also, as far as I remember, the NWAV screen flickering only happens in Twilight Menu, but not on if you play on an R4

[placid urchin]

btw if anyone doesnt know still
basically, if i were to ask here if people can volunteer for beta testing, i'd have to deal with things like if i know i can trust them or if they will actually playtest and help me with feedback, rather than just playing the hack
and on top of that i dont wanna have to choose someone and then not choose someone else and potentially cause conflicts cause of that (im slightly overthinking but you get my point .p)

[sick sorrel]

This is so true, and I believe everyone should keep this in mind when selecting people to beta test or wanting to beta test a hack in particular

[placid urchin]

i just got an idea regarding bottom screen themes (tho i half doubt it'll work)
may try to do it later

or idk if it will even look good lol

planned to basically change the background of the minimap/level depending on the theme

i'd def need to make a better execution tho

[rapid shale]

those two could've been better

rest are great

[sick sorrel]

How about having the backgrounds change randomly instead?

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin

maybe like this?

[wild gorge]

This^

[rapid shale]

you could also improve a bit colours in general

somethign like i did

but better

[placid urchin]

-# idk oam enough to do that 😭

but that could be neat

[placid urchin]

also yeah i realized i could improve these colors, but the problem is that its shared by the bowser jr icon 😔

actually nevermind im stupid, i dont even use that lmao

[placid urchin]

ooo

[placid urchin]

dude its actually hilarious how dead the old one looks like

i never realized the colors could be so much better 😭

[rapid shale]

lmao

I notice it right away most of the times

[placid urchin]

mega bar mockups

[verbal ruin]

Early opinion it should be the rainbow bars with the 1ups

[rapid shale]

love it

im not exactly fan of the colours inside the bar but overall it's great

[placid urchin]

do you mean the colors themselves or the way the colors are displayed

[rapid shale]

colours themselves

woahfh9uioawthguioagiohwa

WHAT

[placid urchin]

what exactly could be changed tho...
i kinda like the lighter tone they have

[orchid cloud]

where are those small as hell mushies from

they look familiar

[placid urchin]

i sprited those!

but i think uh

they look similar to the partners in time mushrooms

[orchid cloud]

knew it (didnt.)

[placid urchin]

btw i made the random decision of using the score palette for it thats why theyre like that lmao

but the actual graphic uses the 1st palette so i can use like, 11-12 colors?

[rapid shale]

(I'm referring to the blue to pink transition btw) Not sure tbh, you would need to experiment to see what would've been a great one, I personally do not find fitting this gradient to rainbow border ;p

[placid urchin]

oh the blue and pink

yeah i kinda agree it doesnt fit all that well 😔

[orchid cloud]

anything's better than the original anyway

blehh

[placid urchin]

focsy the athletic midi

[orchid cloud]

ive been sick for the past week and a half it's a work in progress my man hold on

[placid urchin]

o damn

hope ya feel better

[orchid cloud]

remember the first name fboc had in its very old logo

it's canon now

help me frosty i am in pain and suffering

[placid urchin]

before - after

bro i still cant believe how time consuming editing the ui is, this took me like 3 hours even if it was mostly editing graphics and not tiling

but im proud of it

[placid urchin]

a few days ago too i somehow had the patience to edit the worldmap graphics using nitropaint, which took me a good while aswell
atleast if im gonna edit them again tho i wont have to do so much

[rapid shale]

see, small differences make a huge difference

that's why i point out alot of stuff

love the changes btw

[placid urchin]

ok i just realized i might have to redo the mega's border...

[visual crescent]

oh crap

seems like it doesn't mirror the 3rd row... thank you Nintendo /s

[orchid cloud]

nintendo sucks

who let those guys win the console wars 🥀

[visual crescent]

well they're losing now so

they shouldn't have not mirrored this texture. this is what is currently leading them to their downfall!!!!!!!!!!!!

[placid urchin]

atleast the ds is the best selling Nintendo console

[visual crescent]

true

[dusty cedar]

true

like it's a masterpiece

the idea of 2 screens

[short pelican]

What would this look like i the midtone was the same instead

[placid urchin]

started working on other jyotyu graphics

i like how this one turned out

[verbal ruin]

what are those blocks

[placid urchin]

in nsmb its wood blocks but in wonder im not sure, mabye also another wood block

design wise

but functionality they're just a ''hard'' block, like the empty question blocks

and they only get destroyed by bobombs, mega, etc

[verbal ruin]

so you basically made a reskin of that wooden block above the one u made?

[placid urchin]

yup

based on the wonder one (the image below)

[verbal ruin]

[rapid shale]

nice

improve the hue of few colours only and it will be great

[placid urchin]

gonna have to do that later since i cant now..

[placid urchin]

i'd imagine you mean the darker colors to be more red?

[rapid shale]

generally darker colour

maybe more to the blue too

[placid urchin]

I’ll see

[onyx osprey]

yam

[tawny dew]

HAHAHAHA

Will smith i'll pay you in behalf on jpg cuz brazil

wait

such a late reply sorry 😥

[placid urchin]

burning

[visual crescent]

oh it's flashing

kinda reminds me of how i (kinda accidentally) did it with the silhouette shading

[rapid shale]

actually nice change

am i the reason that you changed it?

[graceful citrus]

Make bubble flower next

[wild gorge]

He's doing it already

Here

@graceful citrus

[graceful citrus]

🔥

[placid urchin]

partially lol

i wanted to try out the spp firebar graphics as the fireball graphics (like i showed in #the-basement ), but those looked too big, so i made custom ones based off of those that looked smaller

i also love how the trail turned out

[wooden cedar]

fancy

[tawny dew]

fLOWER

[placid urchin]

randomly thought about trying to improve the coin graphics so i want yalls opinion (not gonna make the other graphics till i know how i wanna make em)

smaller res

i like the far right coin the most rn, tho i also think that it looks a lil messy lol

[wooden cedar]

did you chamge the palette

[placid urchin]

yup, it has more orange now

[wooden cedar]

ah thought so

[placid urchin]

gonna continue this tmr tho since it’s 3:02 am here 😭

[wooden cedar]

beyond that i think thr old version looks cleaner and maybe more fitting in context of the other graphics than the new ones

[visual crescent]

why are there 4 versions? also yeah it's nice that you made the shading more orange-ish

[short pelican]

Can you give us the old version to compare to

Unless 1 of the 4 images is the old one, of course

In which case, what are all of the images?

[rapid shale]

yes yes randomly through, definitly

[placid urchin]

those are just multiple variants for a new design
the far left one is the old one

-# wow none of y’all except dm are true fj fans for not telling which one is old 😔 /j

[sick sorrel]

It was way obvious from a beginning that the leftmost coin is the old design, lol

I'm not sure what to say exactly, I think I'd preffer the old coin design with the new color palette

[visual crescent]

the left coin being the old design was the only thing that could be considered as obvious. all the rest was confusing

[sick sorrel]

Not really, Frosty just drew a lot of designs and he wanted to know which of them looked better

[visual crescent]

i thought they may have been "iterations" or steps between them. i was also not sure at what the (visual) differences between them where

[visual crescent]

imo i kinda like a mix of the 3 last ones:

• the shading shape of the 3rd one
• the shading colors of the 2nd one
• the extra inner coin vertical line shading of the 4th one

[placid urchin]

ok i made these 3 variants with that,

1. the top left shine is on the middle of the rim (kinda doesnt make sense but i thought it'd look charmy)
2. the top left shine is on the corner of the rim
3. nearly same as 1, but it uses diff colors for the shine

[visual crescent]

i'm not quite sure, maybe the 1st one since you said it looked charmy

[rapid shale]

3

i would make the shading more darker

bigger contrast

whatever

[placid urchin]

wouldnt that kinda make the coin look ''dirty'' tho?

[visual crescent]

yeah i kinda felt like more contrast could be a bit better, tho maybe make the darker colors more orange-ish and a bit more saturated (if it's not already the case for the saturation)

[placid urchin]

omg i might've of done it?

[neon geode]

Ohh cool

[placid urchin]

i realized i forgot to edit the 3rd frame to make it use the rest of the palette cause there were a few missing colors lmao

[wooden cedar]

can you put the old coin in the pic with it

for comparison purposes

[placid urchin]

give me a moment

[wooden cedar]

swag

[placid urchin]

top is old bottom is new

ima update the flower coin too sometime later to match these new ones

[wooden cedar]

mind if i suggest something for the new ones

the lighting feels odd

since the light source is coming from the top left the coin facing more to the left (frame 4) should be brighter whereas the one facing away shpuld be darker (frame 2)

the rim seems lit more properly though

[placid urchin]

alr, ima try to apply this later, thanks!

[rapid shale]

nice, way better than whatever i have made

[wooden cedar]

blue id suggest maybe making some degree brighter red id suggest maybe making some degree darker

[visual crescent]

oh also these coins remind me of the mario party ds ones

[wild gorge]

Yea true

[placid urchin]

honestly i started to miss the old flower coin in the middle of making it but now i DEFINETELY prefer the new one 😭

forgot a pixel in the second frame .p

[wild gorge]

I need to make my something coin but i dont have any idea of anything matching sakura for do on the coins 😭

[wild gorge]

Also for some reason the red coin looks edible

[wild gorge]

Where 😭

[placid urchin]

far right

[visual crescent]

they look so clean!!

[rapid shale]

not fan of the colours you used here

and maybe too smooth?

here especially

[verbal ruin]

purple coins???

guys i think frosty IS adding coin runners.....

[visual crescent]

what is coin runners 😭

[sick sorrel]

Nobody
Absolutely nobody
Literally nobody on earth

NSMB modders when they see literally anything: This looks so edible omg 😋

[wild gorge]

LMAO

-# not fake tho 😭

[wild gorge]

Your pfp looks edible too, not even joking, looks like those Gummy bears smh 😭

[sick sorrel]

[wild gorge]

Sorry

Dobt strangle me

🥺

[verbal ruin]

you will never know

[visual crescent]

r/ibispaintx users when they see a drawing:

[wild gorge]

LMAO

[placid urchin]

-# WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE COLORS
yeah it does look a bit too smooth in some parts..

[placid urchin]

is this better? (bottom is new)

[placid urchin]

@rapid shale SPECIFY WHAT TO CHANGE YOU TOLD ME COLORS AND IDK WHATS WRONG WITH EM 😭

[rapid shale]

I'm waiting for the bus rn 😭

the shadow parts are veery smooth still

[placid urchin]

atleast i can say tho that these sprites are far better than the old ones

[verbal ruin]

im so pissed

in the last 5 images i see no frosterfucking difference in the purple coins, dude.... 🥹

is it some pixels' colors?

omg it is

OH MY GOD

im going insane

[tawny dew]

coin

[dusty cedar]

coin

[neon geode]

coin?

[wild gorge]

coin!

[visual crescent]

coin 🪙

[verbal ruin]

Yes, Rico, Coin. 💥

[rapid shale]

i would've done it like this but yeah, yours better was as i looked more

[placid urchin]

uh
I see no difference 😭

can’t compare as I’m on mobile rn .p

[rapid shale]

why there is my cursor

[wooden cedar]

joerner cursor reveal

[placid urchin]

pretend i reacted to this with marioready (hate reacting on mobile 😭)

[rapid shale]

i had chicken from stardew valley as a cursor but windows is so shit that it removed it for no reason

i hate windows

[placid urchin]

i think its finally done

-# you know what?

[wooden cedar]

are you addng moss coin

[placid urchin]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnah

[wooden cedar]

will these be the event activating coins or will they be like the green coins from new u

[wild gorge]

New luigi u coins

[placid urchin]

i actually just did this recolor out of fun cause i thought it looked good lmao
i doubt i'll add it tho but if anything it could be a red coin replacement

[wild gorge]

Redcoins are fake bro, its a government plan to make you play nsmb

[sick sorrel]

Frog coins from Mario RPG

[wild gorge]

YO TRUE

[rapid shale]

try do the middle purple coin the same as I did

it makes it look sharper

you don't have to always blend something, it can ruin the look of it sometimes

[rapid shale]

nice palette

out of every hue this one looks the best

[placid urchin]

so like this?

[rapid shale]

yup

[placid urchin]

tasty

[rapid shale]

also I think the old coin looks better (red)

in terms of colours

and you can see not accurate shading in frame 2/1

very easily

look at the top of the red coin in the animation and noticed how the light colour looks weird

I had the same issue with mine coin

@placid urchin

[placid urchin]

if you're talking about the shine being in the middle of the rim in the first frame then yeah im aware of that, but i still left it in cause i thought it looked charmy

[placid urchin]

i made it darker since dm said it could be darker, and i personally preferred it darker aswell lol

darker as in the current colors it has

[rapid shale]

the problem with that this isn't really good looking, look at the other colours, it looks very good because they're very bright and blend with other colours

[placid urchin]

fair point

[rapid shale]

also I think the lighting of the coins is very inacurate but idk how I did or nintendo

your could maybe try at blender setting a sun on specific place and study how it reflects I guess

[placid urchin]

-# wha-

[rapid shale]

for me the problem is only in that I don't see much of the middle colours as it is in any other variation which looked great in original one

[rapid shale]

I'm was referring to mainly the purple coin tbh...

[placid urchin]

no im just double confused lmao
wdym by the lighting being inaccurate specifically?
-# and why didnt you mention this earlier

if you mean that the flower coin's lighting doesnt look like in wonder then the problem comes from the fact that in that game it's a model while here it needs to be a 16x16 sprite, and the shape of it makes it hard to look right 😔

[visual crescent]

nsmbu green coin ring?

[rapid shale]

I don't even know how those coins look in Wonder

[placid urchin]

so then what is it

[rapid shale]

when I will leave the bath I will play around with he shading

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin

[rapid shale]

wth, i changed something for some reason accidentally

and ti makes it looks worse lmao

this part generally

it should look like this

[dusty cedar]

Masterpiece

[wild gorge]

true

[graceful citrus]

Omg

I wish there was the wonder tileset but for NSMBU or NSMBWii

Because brothah!

This is amazing but I don't mod NSMBDS sadly :(

[wild gorge]

Ngl frosty is doing a great job in his tilesets

[graceful citrus]

yesss

[wild gorge]

U could give a try, its a great game

[graceful citrus]

I have the rom on my 2DS

I've played until like, 2-3

[verbal ruin]

2ds 💔

[rapid shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399424476728655893/1378709656641208320/opera_AFtvfdJb3k.gif

[visual crescent]

2ds my beloved (kinda wish i had one though)

[rapid shale]

me with my 2ds that i "stoled" from my cousins

[visual crescent]

-# it's "stole" not "stoled"

[rapid shale]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-the-woz-scott-wozniak-frying-pan-hit-pain-gif-21473603

[tawny dew]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-funny-meme-funny-memes-gif-26960286

[wild gorge]

LMAOOO

[neon geode]

Tf, it auto sent

[verbal ruin]

Flower revival

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-bros-wonder-talking-flower-template-mario-wonder-meme-gif-7964213445666430726

[placid urchin]

ok so i might have to say this,
in case anyones curious why there hasnt been much showcase here i just havent worked on the hack ever since i finished making the coins, i've been focusing on other things (and also getting distracted by other things), and my motivation for the hack is pretty low rn, so until i get motivated for this again its likely yall wont see much news of this hack

i also wanted to send this to say that i dont want people to post unrelated things in this thread to ''revive'' it (like how it happened with multiple messages above), because people follow the thread with the impression that they'll see something related to the hack when they see an unread message and not just something like a meme of sorts that could go somewhere else

and lastly just so yall know, im not cancelling the hack, it may take a while to come out or there may not be things shown for a while, but i'll finish this hack because its something great for me to make and im sure its great for most of yall to see aswell

[rapid shale]

TLDR: Frosty cancels this hack and will publish everything he have done later for public

jk

[spark thorn]

So bro you teased us too much good content so it is late to turn back👀. But as long as you want to continue and dont cancel the modpack everything is alright so we‘ll wait

[sick sorrel]

TLDR: Frosty doesn't have enough motivation to work on the hack at the moment but he's not gonna cancel it, he's just gonna take a break, and he also wants y'all to stop shitposting in this thread (which is completely reasonable)

Anyways, take all the time you want Frosty, nobody's rushing you, it's important that you work on this when you want to so that you can be proud of the final result, this is one of the best NSMB hacks that has been ever made and we all are waiting to see this project finished

[spark thorn]

Bro talked like a lion💪

[visual crescent]

-# lions technically don't even talk...
-# (also yeah i'll just stop the useless posting, sorry)

[graceful citrus]

Make talking flower voice lines using ai and bitcrush it do they wouldn't know the difference...

[rapid shale]

I'll voice them

[neon geode]

I guess you didn't understand a word about what ztar said...

[graceful citrus]

Nope I didn't see

[sick sorrel]

One or two joke messages at sporadic times are fine, the problem arises when people starts making chains or talk in a thread just to shitpost, the threads in user projects are mainly to share progress of the hacks and discuss about them, and shitposting or derailing the conversations can be really discouraging for hack's creators, and people always tend to revive this thread once in a week just to say a joke message and leave, and Frosty has clearly stated that he doesn't like when people does this, which is completely reasonable and y'all should respect his opinion

[gritty jolt]

jeez vencord made me think ztar posted a whole two-paged essay

[sick sorrel]

Me when I type something and realized I made like three typos

[wild gorge]

Me when i post soemthing and i noticed i tuped everything wrong

[visual crescent]

me when i edit the message 5 times. also i think we should stop

[ebon root]

I've pinned your message!

[stable flame]

cool

[placid urchin]

@fair bobcat

it stil doesnt show on mobile tho 😭

[fair bobcat]

Might have to resart Discord

But woo it works

[visual crescent]

don't tell me it's the equivalent of Cyborg from The B33h1v3 😭💀

(ai-powered bot that does random crap and trolling)

[visual crescent]

OHH I'M STUPID FROSTY CAKE ASKED THE BOT TO DO IT 😭

🔥

[wild gorge]

Thats evil

[dusty cedar]

Are we back?

[visual crescent]

can you just, STOP ASKING FOR PROGRESS???

progress will come when it will, stop asking for it dammit

[wild gorge]

Exactly

[sick sorrel]

No, the hack is cancelled, Frosty abandoned the NSMB hacking community to pursuit other hobbies, and this hack is now gonna be archived and ported to the Newer DS engine, now stop asking for progress

[wild gorge]

LMFAO

[dusty cedar]

Quit the cap

[dusty cedar]

Is releasing and I still havent got the port of nsmb fj

😔

[neon geode]

Someone ban this guy please

[wild gorge]

Fr 😭

[wild gorge]

Its not cap

[dusty cedar]

Can yall chillaxx

[dusty cedar]

Yez it is

[wild gorge]

Stop then

[dusty cedar]

Like im a game dev

I made a game

[wild gorge]

Everyoje here is

[dusty cedar]

It took me soo long

[neon geode]

Let's move to #general plis

[wild gorge]

@sick sorrel please mute this guy

I beg you

[dusty cedar]

Just give me the damn rom😔

[wild gorge]

ITS NOT FINISHED

[neon geode]

That has nothing to do with you not following the ryles

Rules*

[wild gorge]

WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND BRO

HOLY SHIT

[neon geode]

That's illegal...

[sick sorrel]

Maybe a one day timeout will give him a lesson

[wild gorge]

This is giving me tachycardia, im out

[neon geode]

Yeah please

[neon geode]

Bye jpg

[wild gorge]

Yes do it

[sick sorrel]

Also, you both stop dogpiling him too, you guys are not helping @neon geode @wild gorge

[neon geode]

Yep sorry bye

[wild gorge]

Ok sorry

[placid urchin]

didn’t mean to drag it on but atp I’m more than convinced this guy is either stupid or just ragebaiting, and if it’s the latter let’s just ignore him and let the staff do what they have to

[wild gorge]

I think its the latter

[wooden cedar]

hi frosty

[wild gorge]

Hi dm

[wooden cedar]

hi jpg

[neon geode]

Hi dm

[sick sorrel]

This, please stop saying "someone ban him" or "please mute him" because that's literally backseat moderating, we'll do what we think it's appropiate when it's necessary

[visual crescent]

i didn't consider the second possibility

[void roost]

Is there a playable build?

I want to try it out

It looks awsome

[sick sorrel]

Not yet

[void roost]

Oh

[verbal ruin]

i love bubbl flowe

there isnt a bubbl flowe emoji so i just send this

[sick sorrel]

🫧

There's your bubble flower

[verbal ruin]

bootleg bubble flower uploaded in ebay sold by temu and delivered by fedex

[graceful citrus]

🧋 Boba Flower

[orchid cloud]

me when i want to ask frosty to get to work

then i remember he asked me ages ago to give him the midi

[verbal ruin]

Flower Journey releases in 237 days

(Frosty Fools 2026)

[celest lichen]

Download

[placid urchin]

this hack doesn’t have any downloadable/playable content yet

[orchid cloud]

people come here and demand a download like the fatass kid that wants to be screamed at in shrek forever

https://tenor.com/view/do-the-roar-shrek-kiddo-bratty-sugar-candy-gif-17946107

[visual crescent]

lmaooo 😭

[wild gorge]

LMFAO

[placid urchin]

unironically though, yesterday I made good progress on 2-1 and finished it

the reason I haven’t shown it yet is because my laptop kept lagging at random times meaning I couldn’t record it well…

[wild gorge]

Ohh gotcha

YEYEYEYEYEEYEY ITS BACK

[verbal ruin]

It's back 🚬

[placid urchin]

OK, there’s a few errors (primarily the few lag spikes towards the end) in the video but I don’t feel like wanting to perfect this any more so I’ll just send it how it is rn lol

-# i didnt realize i got the ''9th red coin'' bug lol

also, the reason the new coins arent there yet is bc i wanna import them when i finish majority of the jyotyu graphics so that i wont have to edit them so much

[wild gorge]

That music is familiar but idk from where it is
I remembered its sm3dl

Great level btw!!

Glad to see this mod back, the potential is amazing

Keep it up pastel helado!

[rapid shale]

this starcoin models bothers me...

would you mind sending me to try to make it look better?

[visual crescent]

also i feel like it could be nice if you had a code hack that could change the palette of the bg, for the wonder effects

[wild gorge]

True

[visual crescent]

another thing that could be cool could be using different wonder themes depending on the effects, just like in smbwonder. but that's up to you

the level looks very fun and pretty well-designed btw

[sick sorrel]

Great level Frosty

I'm very glad to see this hack being worked on again

[placid urchin]

I’ve been meaning to ask illy for hers but I heard it’s the same way as onsmb so I’ll probably look at that one instead (I just haven’t given it the time to understand it)

[placid urchin]

whatsa bothering you bout it

[rapid shale]

how smooth this is

and texture itself

[placid urchin]

smooth…?

it’s because i made it shade smooth lol

i wanted to do shade flat but it made it look bad from what I remember…

though this model has uneccesary stuff on the inside cause of how I did it originally

[visual crescent]

oh ok. well i think i was mostly thinking about something like her tileset swap code, or the tileset palette swap someone once suggested. but i guess that could also work

[stone steppe]

I also have a full on background switcher now, it’s just another thing built into the gimmick controller though lol

[placid urchin]

oh wow i actually like this

@rapid shale whatdja think

-# unrelated but first time i actually used sharex well lmao

[wild gorge]

What is sharex

[wild gorge]

Yo cool!!!

[rapid shale]

Great

still sligthly off but leave it that way

it's better than whatever you have done before

[verbal ruin]

Damn even the clouds know how to hyperspeed

[visual crescent]

wait there's some sort of weird colored spiral around the coin that adds some sort of extra effect. did you do that on purpose?

[placid urchin]

yeah

[visual crescent]

nice

[placid urchin]

it’s a screen capture program
jouner uses it for gifs and this is the first time I use it well for that too lol

[wild gorge]

Ohhh

[rapid shale]

gay

like this

[placid urchin]

this is what it looks like on a dark bg since its not very visible in what i sent above

ill just make this an accesible gif lmao

do u guys actually like the spiral 😭? i just added it there and didnt think so much about it i just like it lol

[wild gorge]

I did liked it

Feels like smbw

[stoic lantern]

It looks weird

Especially because it gets cut

[rapid shale]

what did you use to remove the bg?

[wild gorge]

Top bg and bottom bg to 255

[rapid shale]

jpg, you misunderstood me

GIF BACKGROUND

[placid urchin]

actually I took frame by frame in desmume and put it on aseprite 😭

[rapid shale]

................

[placid urchin]

and then I exported the sprite sheet in aseprite, removed the black, then reimported

[rapid shale]

god bless you 🙏

[graceful citrus]

Demo when? (take ur time ofc)

[visual crescent]

idk if you're trying to make fun of people who repeatedly ask if there's progress, or if you're just making a standalone joke

[verbal ruin]

WHERE'S

IS

PROGRESS?

grrrrrrrrrr 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

hi frosty

[verbal ruin]

Just found this holy

pretty

[orchid cloud]

holy shit dat looks amazing

[wild gorge]

This is so beautiful smh

[stone steppe]

Do you want the code to make pokeys stompable for these guys?

[placid urchin]

oh maybe actually, I never intended to make them stompable but that would give it some variety from the desert ones lol

[stone steppe]

#include "nsmb.hpp"

ncp_hook(0x0213DBA8, 23)
bool PokeyLoadMoreCrap(){
    FS::Cache::loadFile(2429 - 131, false);
    FS::Cache::loadFile(2428 - 131, false);

    return true;
}

static void pokeyOnStomped(Actor* self) {    
    int *world = (int*)(0x02088BFC);
    if(*world == 0) asm("B  0x0213C75C");
}

static void pokeyDamagePlayer(ActiveCollider& selfAC, ActiveCollider& otherAC) {
    auto pokey = static_cast<Pokey*>(selfAC.owner);
    int *world = (int*)(0x02088BFC);
    if (otherAC.owner->actorType == ActorType::Player) {
        Player* player = static_cast<Player*>(otherAC.owner);

        if(*world == 0){
        auto stomped = pokey->updatePlayerStomp(selfAC, 9.0fx/32.0fx, 1, false);
        if(stomped == PlayerStompType::MiniStomp)
            return;

        if(stomped == PlayerStompType::Stomp){
            pokey->setStompCollision(*player);
            return;
        }
        }
        player->dealDamage(*pokey, 0, 4.0fx, PlayerDamageType::Hit);

    }
}


ncp_over(0x0213ECC8,23)
static const auto pokeyOnStompedVFunc = pokeyOnStomped;

ncp_over(0x0213ECF8, 23)
static const auto pokeyDamagePlayerVFunc = pokeyDamagePlayer;

ncp_over(0x0213EAF8, 23)
static const ActiveColliderInfo activeColliderInfo = {
    0.0fx, 0.0fx,
    8.0fx, 6.0fx,
    CollisionGroup::Entity,
    CollisionFlag::None,
    MAKE_GROUP_MASK(CollisionGroup::Player, CollisionGroup::PlayerSpecial, CollisionGroup::Fireball),
    MAKE_FLAG_MASK_EX(CollisionFlag::None),
    0,
    pokeyDamagePlayer
};

ncp_jump(0x0213DB14,23)
NTR_NAKED static void pokeyHead() {asm(R"(
    LDR        R0, =0x02088BFC
    LDR        R0, [R0]
    CMP        R0, #0
    LDREQ           R0, =2429 - 131 
    BEQ             0x0213DB14 + 4
    LDR             R0, =0x5cc
    B               0x0213DB14 + 4

)");}


ncp_jump(0x0213DB54,23)
NTR_NAKED static void pokeyBoobs() {asm(R"(
    LDR        R7, =0x02088BFC
    LDR        R7, [R7]
    CMP        R7, #0
    LDREQ           R7, =2428 - 131 
    BEQ             0x0213DB54 + 4
    LDR             R7, =0x5cb
    B               0x0213DB54 + 4
)");}

So I did the remodel world based, and the abilty to stomp them world based, but you can easily change that
this is all you actauly need

static void pokeyOnStomped(Actor* self) {    
    int *world = (int*)(0x02088BFC);
    if(*world == 0) asm("B  0x0213C75C");
}

static void pokeyDamagePlayer(ActiveCollider& selfAC, ActiveCollider& otherAC) {
    auto pokey = static_cast<Pokey*>(selfAC.owner);
    int *world = (int*)(0x02088BFC);
    if (otherAC.owner->actorType == ActorType::Player) {
        Player* player = static_cast<Player*>(otherAC.owner);

        if(*world == 0){
        auto stomped = pokey->updatePlayerStomp(selfAC, 9.0fx/32.0fx, 1, false);
        if(stomped == PlayerStompType::MiniStomp)
            return;

        if(stomped == PlayerStompType::Stomp){
            pokey->setStompCollision(*player);
            return;
        }
        }
        player->dealDamage(*pokey, 0, 4.0fx, PlayerDamageType::Hit);

    }
}

this makes them stompable in w1, but you can just check settings instead of world

[short pelican]

Why world based in the first place?

[stone steppe]

because it doesnt use any extra vram

[wild gorge]

Like if on w3 the person want killable pokeys

But on w2 dont

It will only affect w3 pokeys

[wild gorge]

O

[short pelican]

I thought vram was specifically for graphics

[stone steppe]

it is

[short pelican]

So it has to load both models if it's a sprite setting?

[stone steppe]

if it was byte based, all of the textures would be loaded into vram at once

[stone steppe]

yeah

[short pelican]

My keyboard really does move faster than my brain

[wild gorge]

Nah its confusing, i myself dont understand that very well

[short pelican]

It's just that I keep asking a question, and then realise the answer to my confusing after thinking a little more about it

[thorn axle]

Hello, is there a downloadable version for the DS?

[wild gorge]

Not yet

[rapid shale]

frosty, i'm gonna manipulate you to show us something cool

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

[verbal ruin]

bim bara baum baum bara baum baum bim 🗣️

(This is wonder athletic)

[void roost]

I miss the bah bah

[orchid cloud]

why so silent

[sharp trail]

Idk

[orchid cloud]

hell does nerd have to do with silence

[sharp trail]

Idk

[verbal ruin]

It has a lot to do with silence

stfu frosty

[sick sorrel]

Could you please stop bumping this thread every now and then?

If there's no activity in this thread, it's because Frosty hasn't made any progress, that's simple

[placid urchin]

wanted to say that, I’ve already stated multiple times to not do this even if you guys know me, and it annoys me more that it’s just done specifically in this thread and not any other (not that you should go to other threads and do the same thing)

[wild gorge]

It would be nice if u used illy code hack for working talking flowers

[placid urchin]

the reason im not using it is because the voicelines feel weird in nsmb for me, that’s why the one I requested is specifically for text boxes lol

[wild gorge]

Oh oki

[placid urchin]

ok so im gonna say this in advance because i want to prevent things in the future that are most likely to happen
#nsmb-showcase message this guy is working on their own wonder-y themed romhack completely separate from flower journey
i want absolutely zero comparison between my romhack and theirs, i dont want people comparing things where they're saying one is better than the other because it can result in bashing or just uneccesary negativity on the other end potentially causing one to lose motivation

[neon geode]

Understood ma captain 🫡

[placid urchin]

now back to fj... i made this earlier

[neon geode]

col

[placid urchin]

i have to see how it looks ingame though cause im afraid of the semisolid bridge turning out odd lol

[visual crescent]

yeah i kinda hate comparison in general

[visual crescent]

oh clean!!

[sick sorrel]

Comparing hacks in general is something that should not be done anyways, it's very disrespectful to hack creators

[errant flare]

Ok but mine is just pretty much all the levels in wonder on the ds very-ish different.

If you want me to change some stuff to not make it look similar I can.

[stone steppe]

I bloody hate when people compare hacks to newer more then anything

[fossil pecan]

Newer was and is peak, but there isn't a monopoly on peak.

[stone steppe]

[fossil pecan]

soz

[wild gorge]

I had a dream with this hack lmao 😭

[visual crescent]

which coins specifically?

[wild gorge]

The flower coin is a custom actor

That replaces the score counter with a flower coin counter

[stone steppe]

please dont ask questions about nsmb modding in user projects threads

[errant flare]

Ok

[visual crescent]

feels weird that you deleted only the message, which kinda leaves the other ones without context

it also was directly related to the hack (since it asked about something present in this specific hack) which didn't warrant it to get deleted in my opinion (i mean i do it all the time i think)

edit: they deleted it themself, tho my point still stands i guess

[placid urchin]

what even was it about lol

[errant flare]

flower

[wild gorge]

there was some new levels u made themed arround w1, and u added open overworld, and there was magnun seeds and other stuff 😭

And for some reason there was a part where mario was in a minecart on the map and it feel on a hole that was a level

[visual crescent]

it is a custom actor, as JPG said, which requires a code hack. it's also not a tile (and is placed like a sprite). it would also need you to add an additional file into the rom

[errant flare]

ok

[placid urchin]

speaking of seeds I was hoping I could make use of the extra save data thing gamerator sent in #nsmb-programming so I could actually add wonder seeds, but if I go through with it I need to likely plan a new bottom screen design

theres 0 space for me to add stuff in it lol

[wild gorge]

NOWAY LMAO I WAS RIGHT

[visual crescent]

would flower seeds be separate from the 10-coins flower coins? (and so having 3 of them + the flower seed now?)

i also feel like, since logically in smbwonder, the final one is obtained at the end of the level, the save data could just check whether or not the level is completed for this one

[placid urchin]

yeah, it’s 2 wonder seeds per level (wonder effect and level clear), + 1 secret wonder seed if the level has a secret exit

though that means I gotta add this sooner than later because rn wonder effects are made for the 3rd 10-flower coin meaning I gotta change where it’s placed

which means redesigning lvls

[errant flare]

what

[visual crescent]

yeah i thought about that too

[placid urchin]

this isnt things from flower journey, you should be showing them in the other nsmb channels instead (https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1078818558991138888), but yeah it does look good!

[errant flare]

Ok

Hoping i could get a user project soon.

[rapid shale]

it looks off somehow but great

[feral pasture]

descent

[wild gorge]

Interesting

This hack artstyle is nice

[errant flare]

Don't really know how to make a proper logo but i tried

[stone steppe]

Can yall stop talking about our stuff not related to frosty’s hack here

[wild gorge]

Btw, talking about artstyle u plan making a petal isles type of world or smth

[placid urchin]

yeah thats planned, main problem is im afraid of vram straitup dying and not letting me make this possible lol
in the case that i struggle a lot to make it then ill try to change my plans

[wild gorge]

I have a idea

That may be nice

A island like world

And every world, w1 w2 w3 w4 w5 and w5 have a cannon after a castle that leads to w7 aka petal islands, and this w7 will have a start node, and 4 paths with random levels, and cannons leading to w2 w3 w4 w5 and w6

And you would need a ammount of seeds to unlook each path

Forcing the player to go exactly where they should go to

Idk it you like this idea

But tell me what u think

[visual crescent]

oh interesting

[placid urchin]

i finally started remaking this stupid tileset 🥹
the pattern is kinda random tho, tbh i was just messing around by throwing random shades here n there till i got that and i liked it so

also i never realized how desaturated the autumn graphics were holy, i rerendered the background a while ago and the difference is massive (still need to compress it tho)

[placid urchin]

actually you know what i kinda like how the vertical lines have a small reference to the undergruond tileset because both of them have pretty similar ''grass tops'' in wonder
-# ...and a small reference to jouners autumn tileset

[fossil pecan]

Baobabs?

[rapid shale]

A little bit too orange lmao

but the bg great

much better

and remove this stupid pixel on the middle

[placid urchin]

oops

[placid urchin]

I think so

[rapid shale]

i would also smooth outh the edges slightly too, not too much tho

[placid urchin]

by adding some blurry pixels below?

[rapid shale]

just took orange and set opacity to 50% or any other percent and but it undert the grass

[placid urchin]

alr

[neon geode]

Ma captain Frosty Cake why did you change your name and pfp I didn't know tf you were and I was gonna report to the authorities, have a good day 🫡

Btw the tileset look fire 🔥

[rapid shale]

i would report him too

oh wait, i can do that!

https://tenor.com/view/boondock-saints-boondocks-im-white-gif-25244719

there was no gif without the text

[placid urchin]

ztar's jyotyu made me want to do some more jyotyu stuff lmao

door design i thought of

im honestly surprised it only uses 14 colors (without counting transparency bc it doesnt have)
i might use another 2 for the rim so that it has a whole row for the jyotyu palettes

[sick sorrel]

Looks great, I like it

[placid urchin]

this was an old palette i used, i immediately scrapped it the moment i realized it looked like those crates from nsmbwii lmao

[visual crescent]

i like the weirdness it has

not bad weirdness, it just feels like a different kind of fairy-tale-like wood i think, while the original feels more like plastic

[placid urchin]

unenterable door

got inspired by the first mario game i've played, which im sure yall can guess by how the door looks

[sick sorrel]

I wonder what game it could possibly be... man... this is a very hard guess...

I'm pretty sure it's definitely NOT Super Princess Peach, there's no way you got inspired by that game

Jokes aside, this is very creative, I like the idea of the door being sealed by wooden planks, you cooked

[placid urchin]

unironically you got it wrong lmao, it was yoshi's island

[sick sorrel]

Kill you

Well, that was a close guess, both games have similar artstyles

[placid urchin]

honestly true

[wooden cedar]

cool ifea:PeachWow

[placid urchin]

not sure if its an entirely good idea but i made this to work with the event activated doors, kinda like the p swittch doors in smm2 where they have an outline

-# i might've of overdone the dither tho

[neon geode]

Wooooo, jyotyu!

-# That's the first thing that came to my mind after seeing the doors

[placid urchin]

roulette

hang on the gif killed it

this is what the sprite itself looks like lmao

do u guys think the shine looks fine or should it be ''less in the way'' ?

[sick sorrel]

I think it's fine, but the powerups inside the block are barely visible, maybe you could remove the diagonal shines from the corners

[visual crescent]

even the block roulettes itself
-# whatever that means

[placid urchin]

lmao 😭 thats due to gif compression thats why i said my message afterwards lol

[visual crescent]

how even 😭

[placid urchin]

i had the dumb idea of making this (i didnt make it a sseq yet, i used nwav to test it)

the only problem is that it doesnt 'sync' with the countdown sounds but i honestly like how it sounds lmao

[visual crescent]

nice!!

i feel like it kinda sounds like a sonic song for some reason

pretty sad that it doesn't sync and is too long tho yeah

[placid urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWvuTyFysFg i wonder

now i get to make a super hard speedrun level for fj where you're pressing switches constantly and this theme mocks you by referencing exactly what the special stage theme does, mock you by having dreamy music in nightmare difficulty

[visual crescent]

wait it was actually a sonic 1 song 😭 i thought it was the smbwonder switch theme (because i forgot how it sounded like) and just thought the leitmotiv was similar to green hill zone... 😭

well at least now i know that the song has a similar leitmotiv as the green hill zone theme (or reuses it)

[placid urchin]

rising/lowering mushies (red goes up and blue goes down, hinted by the pattern lol)

this is meant to be 2-5 btw, i skipped other w2 levels for now cause i really feel like trying to make something with these, they're a really fun and useful gimmick

[sick sorrel]

Those mushrooms look nice, I also love the background

Great work as usual Frstoy

[tawny dew]

❤️

[neon geode]

So. Fucking. Pretty. ❤️

[thorn lance]

A. This stage looks as good as ever
B. Both tracks sound like they're actually from the game (also, Sonic 1's Special Stages are kinda middle-of-the-road for Classic Sonic)

[thorn lance]

These look really good too

[rapid shale]

maybe try considering adding one light colour on the full edge of the mushroom? it could make it more fitting to the style?

[rapid shale]

suggestion, colourful spikes from wonder

[placid urchin]

sure actually, I want to add more stuff to jyotyu

im just not sure where I’ll be able to use them yet 😭 but could be nice

[rapid shale]

platform autoscroll level

[placid urchin]

hey you know what that’s it! let’s make the wonder effect for 2-5 be a rising mushroom that takes you to space with low gravity and bunch of spikes
thanks

[placid urchin]

test

forgot how much i hated making metallic things in low res 😔

[rapid shale]

i think the 3rd one wouldve looked better if it was slightly more red-ish

and the spikes could be better definitly

[placid urchin]

also looking at it again i should probably make the colors a bit more ''pastel'' for all of them

[placid urchin]

true

[placid urchin]

sun bombs

i love the colors so much more 😭 even if they're just desaturated

[rapid shale]

improve the shading definitly

[placid urchin]

WHERE

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin

[placid urchin]

thats not shading thats colors 💔 but okedoke

[rapid shale]

this one couldve been better still but yeah

whatever

im dumb

you make the spikes colour too matching to the whole colour, make them every gray with bit of blue, just silver

[placid urchin]

ill still keep the subtle tint to match the main color but yeah i think this is good

[rapid shale]

ugly still

here

if you want give spikes matching colour but not mutch

[placid urchin]

ok ur actually right thats 20 times better 💀

[rapid shale]

i just changed green and red btw

[placid urchin]

color variety tops

[rapid shale]

yellow one could have better light spot

oh and blend out that one colour on red

[placid urchin]

which

[rapid shale]

now its alright

nice

[thorn lance]

These look really nice and stylised

[sharp trail]

Are you making a ds Mario bros wonder ?

[placid urchin]

to be more clear, its not a ''ds mario wonder'' (like, a port of wonder for nsmb basically), its more like its a custom hack that just ''takes wonder as the main inpiration'', but yeah lol

[sharp trail]

So it can fit in a ds ?

[placid urchin]

wdym

[sharp trail]

Is it playable on ds ?

[placid urchin]

i havent tested it in a while (mainly bc my dsi is broken 😭) but last time it was tested on a ds (hi ztar ) it was playable, just with a few bugs

[sharp trail]

Ok

I'll download it and see

[placid urchin]

theres no available download yet

[sharp trail]

oh

[sharp trail]

are you the creator of this level ?

[placid urchin]

the creator of the romhack yup

[sharp trail]

okay

[sharp trail]

yeah i mean the romhack

is it somehow challenging ?

[placid urchin]

so far its pretty easy, i think at most what you'll be challenged with rn are 1-castle and 1-4, which are both still pretty easy
thats just world 1 tho which is ofc meant to not be challenging, most likely in future levels it'll get harder

oh yeah and maybe 1-a, i got cool ideas for the level recently (i never finished it lol), which ima have to save for when i get to making it (probably after 2-5)

[sick sorrel]

The bugs in particular: The screen shaking in most levels because of Nitro WAV

[stone steppe]

That’s not a bug, that’s a problem with twl loader or whatever it’s called

[visual crescent]

ndsbootstrap

[placid urchin]

i forgot i messed with this lmao (10-flower coin outline)

do u guys think i should keep it?

[visual crescent]

it would feel weird if it's the only thing that ever has outlines imo

[placid urchin]

fair yeah thats half the reason im unsure abt it

[visual crescent]

it would be fine if it was part of a consistent style, but here it feels a bit out of place or a bit exclusive to the flower coin

[placid urchin]

ok i genuinely wanted to do this but after playing with the gravity mechanic again i think I’ll just see if I do something else… I forgot how damn awful the anti gravity thing is 🥀

[sick sorrel]

I agree, the anti-gravity mechanic is a pain in the ass

[placid urchin]

potential generic mushroom design

wait... wrong image oops

there we go lol

i might remove the spots on the stems but idk i feel like they make it feel more neat instead of just a repetitive gradient (but also they could make the stems more distracting tho)

[sick sorrel]

I really like those mushrooms, much better than the original ones ||(but I shouldn't be the one saying this considering I'm a big hater of the DS mushrooms, lmao)||

I'm not really sure about the spots on the stems, they look nice, but it's not something you commonly see in mushroom tilesets

[stone steppe]

I think the spots will look nice if they are at like 20% opacity so they are a small detail

[sick sorrel]

What if instead of rounded spots you made diagonal stripes?

[stone steppe]

what if instead of that, we delete nsmb central

[sick sorrel]

Let's delete Discord instead

[rapid shale]

i’m not fully fan of them

i actually would prefer original ones with improved palette…

the shape could’ve been more round and bigger dots

the creamy colour part has too orange shading, calm it down

generally, make it more appealing to the eyes by lowering contrast of the colours

[visual crescent]

the stems pattern reminds me of the smw mushrooms. they look really nice imo, and fit the hack's artstyle well!!

[placid urchin]

hows this

made the pattern be changing between large and small spots (which i think this is how it is in new u/wii?)

[visual crescent]

looks better i think

[placid urchin]

i do like the new shape but at the same time i also kinda preferred the colors from the previous one

well for all except the red mushroom, i love the new one lmao

ima mess with the other colors a bit ig

tanned mushrooms

[placid urchin]

alr i think i'll stick with this

it was kinda bothering me how bright the previous stems were

[visual crescent]

same i think

[visual crescent]

nice!! weird that some of it is blurry

[placid urchin]

oh what i just saw the image on mobile 😭 why does this even happen

opening in browser works

[placid urchin]

finally imported that took uneccesarily long

ingame

i do need to make the bigger versions of the graphics tho especially cause of 1-2 but thats for another time

[visual crescent]

wowww!!!

i love the way they look in-game

[frank cave]

Hi

[placid urchin]

designing vertical levels/sections is a bit harder than i thought
also i genuinely underestimate how ''compact'' the game actually is, i thought this would be more open but it feels so cramped ingame lol

[placid urchin]

i have no idea why actor spawner sometimes does anything but what its called

this iswhat is supposed to appear btw

whats more confusing is that theres another actor spawner above and if i remove that it works completely normally like whatever could 2 actor spawners near eachother affect the other...?

[river forge]

Oh wow I didn't expect a YIDS song

[tawny dew]

YIDS goat

[visual crescent]

no idea. i know i had an issue with it spawning coins with an event trigger id, but was doing it fine when it was triggered on its own without the trigger id

[placid urchin]

@short oracle btw do you happen to have any ideas what could cause this (in any case I’ll just remove the one at the top)

[short oracle]

I hate that everyone seems to have issues with actor spawner and I can never recreate them

[placid urchin]

tbh that makes me think that its possible that code hacks we have are the cause of the issue but i've no idea how

[gritty ocean]

i wonder if you can play nsmb

[neon geode]

Where? For example, you can play it on a ds, but not on an Atari 🤔

[fossil pecan]

NSMBDS for the PS5

[placid urchin]

feel like i should mention this here #hobby-showcase message
so originally this model was actually gonna be used for fj (tho i need to tweak it's animations and probably the model itself first), i planned to code outmaways for 2-2, thats also why i made the ice block actor months ago (#1340066347052175511 message), and this is also what this incredibly undefined leak was #1340066347052175511 message lol

[visual crescent]

interesting

[placid urchin]

im half debating wether to use this or not for the shop theme instead of wiggler's garden LMAO

anyways hey yall, apologies for the lack of updates the past few months
i've been focusing on some other things that are taking priority for me, but im hoping that within the next month i can get them done and shift more focus to this romhack

[fair bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/sueñitosgifs-traumatized-mr-incredible-los-increibles-meme-gif-24305569

That's all I can say LOL

[sick sorrel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/doki-literature-club-meowl-ddlc-Oo5JnUwji6P59E9RTI

I would have never expected you to use the main theme of DDLC in your hack, lmaooo

[rapid shale]

the song i’ll be hearing before i do sayori

[amber temple]

It’s okay I think all the Doki girls are over 18

Very strange thing to admit out loud however

[rapid shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZo4BVMsWq8

this your hack?

[sick sorrel]

Bro, I'm sorry but I'm dying with this cancer level design

WHY IS DAWG USING BOTTOM GROUND TILES AS NORMAL GROUND?

[rapid shale]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[placid urchin]

I sent an image from fj in the smmwe (I think) server and iirc someone replied with this or something similar

actually a while ago I had the thought of potentially uploading the hack to mfgg (if possible atleast) if I get around making a demo at some point
hoping it could bring more attention to the overall nsmb modding community :p

that’s gonna be for much later tho

[rapid shale]

why did your hack slow down so much frosty

[placid urchin]

procrastination
ive had to focus on other things (both irl and not irl) so I couldn’t give this hack the proper time to update it, ontop of that I had low motivation for a while

[wooden cedar]

kinda mean

[rapid shale]

I would’ve been meaner

[placid urchin]

i think i wondered the game too much oops

[sick sorrel]

Mario drank way too much...

[placid urchin]

old - new

-# and no, the effect doesnt cover the screen when you collect it but i wanna do that at some point .p

[rapid shale]

you are fucked up

how did you make the flower follow you btw

code?

y/n

[placid urchin]

y

[placid urchin]

what does that mean

[rapid shale]

you are fucked up for being able to do something this good

now give mario a cool shiny shader like he was pissed by someone and you have perfectly looking wonder on ds

you could modify original lighting with that #1207793065524199455 stuff so it could give cool shines on sides

i really wanted to do that but jpg is slow af

[placid urchin]

what the other colors look like btw

[uncut mason]

that’s so cool

[teal maple]

Peak

[placid urchin]

i got the transition in a promising state
im gonna improve the animation and add effects once i think of the right ones, and maybe find a good sound for it too

[sick sorrel]

I'm gonna have to call the fire department, because my house is burning because of how hard you cooked

[placid urchin]

sobs to put the fire out

[sick sorrel]

Considering how much you sob that'll be enough to put the fire out

[short oracle]

looks pretty great as is, but it might look even better with some non-linear interpolation function (like smooth step) controlling the size of the ring thing

[placid urchin]

smooth step?

is that like

easing?

if that’s the case then that would be REALLY useful 🥹

i would just have to add code to scale specifically that bone because rn the scaling is done in the animation which forces me to fake easing which you can tell didnt work out well lol

[placid urchin]

actually not only just that, i've also had to fake easing on other things like actors

could be good for my moving pipes too which i wanted to add easing to but never did

[short oracle]

yeah

it's in the reference

I actually used it in the coin counter code

it's a pretty useful function, but if it's not exactly what you're looking for, it's not hard to write these kinds of functions yourself

there are tons of interpolation functions

[placid urchin]

o

[placid urchin]

i feel like a criminal for putting all of this in the model itself even if it only appears once per level for a short time lmao

quick test

i think ill just code the sparkles tbh, would let me be more flexible with them and make it look more like i want it to
tho this doesnt look bad either

[stone steppe]

Why not make them different models? You can make an actor draw multiple models

[placid urchin]

right I should prolly do that
im just worried the filesystem becomes a mess due to having to make 2 models per flower but I suppose it doesn’t matter lol

[placid urchin]

its still a bit of a wip but i've recoded the wow buds to make them turn into sparkles when you collect them

before they would just immediately activate the event .p

[sick sorrel]

I have to say I'm very impressed by what you have been doing lately, great work Frosty, keep it up

I have no doubts that your hack will be a massive success once you release it

[placid urchin]

also a while back i got an idea for a custom gimmick for 1-A, i think im capable of getting it to work so i cant wait to get to that
its pretty simple tho but im still not gonna spoil just yet

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin can i improve this tileset 🥹

also these ones 🙏

i beg

[placid urchin]

no

[placid urchin]

buuut you could improve the buds yeah

they’re 16x16

[rapid shale]

give me all

[rapid shale]

you're worse than jpg

[placid urchin]

tho im curious as to what you’d want to improve from the tileset

[rapid shale]

you would see and said "holy fuck, why i did like this, you're amazing jouner!!"

[placid urchin]

keep it at 16 colors (including transparency) btw

[sick sorrel]

Jouner being a narcissist moment

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin what theyre called?

@placid urchin

[placid urchin]

https://www.mariowiki.com/Wow_Bud

[placid urchin]

holy thats way better

send it right NOW

[rapid shale]

download it through discord please

[placid urchin]

uh,,,

why exactly

cause saving directly from discord compresses images lmao

[rapid shale]

no, it's the other way

try yourself

[placid urchin]

nvm i saw why and respectfully, no fuck you

[rapid shale]

fuck you frosty

do you have any other graphics that you think look bad/could look better

[stone steppe]

Damn that's impressive

[placid urchin]

hmm i'd have to think abt it and look back on the hack

i would maybe say the forest and autumn tilesets but the forest one looks good minus the semisolid having grass on the walls (and i'd have to prob remake it actually cause tiling it is ridiculous)
as for the autumn one i was already remaking it but i never finished it

the underground tileset could use some more decor/better-looking decor

i think in a few days i'll recode my moving pipes maybe
moreso to make them more flexible but also to potentially make them a public actor bc they're pretty generic-usage(?) to not be public tbh

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin

old one

[placid urchin]

fancy

now im thinking on changing the colors lmao

but its good as is

[rapid shale]

do it if you want

[rapid shale]

Do it! i always wanted them 😭

[river forge]

Peak

[verbal ruin]

:O Great seeing some more progress

[placid urchin]

woag its THE windows 10 vee

[sick sorrel]

Windows10V fans when Linux11Z walks in

[verbal ruin]

@cerulean pivot u suck

[cerulean pivot]

Im linux5z in mvl discord bro

[placid urchin]

random red block design i thought of lol

[sick sorrel]

Yoshi's Island reference 🗣️

[rapid shale]

if you’ll know what i believe is missing here and makes me mad i will never complain to you ever again

[placid urchin]

um

shadow on the bolts..?

or shading on the exclamation mark

@rapid shale what is it

[sick sorrel]

Antialiasing?

[rapid shale]

Good

i would've deleted your .nsbmd model if the answer was wrong

It's too rough!!!

ofc not as much as i did but enough to make it smoother

[placid urchin]

o alr

[rapid shale]

you have 2 weeks to do that

[placid urchin]

no bro 😭

actually I conceptualized a similar powerup for one of my mvlo mods but it never came to be, that was one of my first thoughts when I saw that lmao

[rapid shale]

poop power up

in which you shit on other players and remove their view

i would've been good designer

[foggy spade]

what does this shit even do

[rapid shale]

it spawns a flower that goes up and dissapears lmao

[foggy spade]

thats it?

lame ahh powerup

[rapid shale]

Oh, you can also extend jump the same way as yoshi does lol

[foggy spade]

ok nvm

[river forge]

And you have a floaty descent too, so it's like Yoshi + parachute cap

[placid urchin]

been trying to pick the train back up recently (left is old)

a friend inspired me to make a new touch screen, though i already had in mind to touch it up because of the themes, and i thought i might aswell try to change the item reserves too

[fair bobcat]

Ooo

I like that

[placid urchin]

damn at first i wasnt sure about the flowers but after looking for a while it has grown onto me so fast 😭

blue shell is going to be hard 💖 tho i feel like its the most ''accurate'' looking powerup to it's reserve out of the current ones, so maybe i wont change it much

[onyx osprey]

BUBL

[rapid shale]

Because they are good

just try to blend out the edges of yellow part transitioning to orange

[rapid shale]

I recommend pre rendering it and just setting correct amount of colours and then improve, that’s how i would do it

[rapid shale]

I think i’ll try myself doing power ups again after i finish the tileset i’m working on rn

[placid urchin]

first time I ever inspired jouner

[placid urchin]

hmmm right I might try to do that

[short pelican]

The eyes of the Bubble Flower look a little strange

Why is the shine not white

[placid urchin]

the plan is to make it so it’s reserve reuses the same shape as the fire flower and simply change the palette (tho the reserve stuff still isn’t in the game yet)

don’t blame ya for thinking it’s weird though

[short pelican]

Can't make the sprites different then?

[placid urchin]

I could try to but not sure how, either I try to cram it in the same file or make it load another dile which idk if it’s possible

actually maybe I could reuse the stem and use a different head

[short pelican]

How do the palettes for those sprites work btw

Is it one palette for the entire thing?

[placid urchin]

nah it’s like

16 palettes of 16

theres a palette of 16 for the world numbers, one for the icons, one for each reserve icon, etc

[short pelican]

And for the reserve items?

[sick sorrel]

Each powerup has its own palette and they can only be limited to 15 colors each

And the reserve items work the same iirc, unless you use the 256 color worldmap icons code hack

[placid urchin]

btw just to make sure, do you mean smoothing out the orange to red rim or the orange to yellow rim?

[short pelican]

So 1 palette for the entire reserve item icon?

[rapid shale]

@placid urchin

[placid urchin]

alr thanks

[placid urchin]

like this? (also attempted to make the head cast a shadow on the leaves

[placid urchin]

ok yeah i think ill see how i can make bubble have a separate head instead of recolor, it looks so much cleaner like this

[short pelican]

I think it looked better before

[placid urchin]

the leaves or the head? (or both? lol)

[short pelican]

Actually, can you put them side to side?

[short pelican]

I like the shadow a lot, actually

[placid urchin]

the difference with the head is those red pixels on the edge of the yellow part for those who couldnt tell btw

ok scratch that i changed the shadows to be symmetrical

love it

[short pelican]

Yeah, I think the shape of the head on the new one looks a little off as is

[placid urchin]

hmmmm

[short pelican]

I quite liked the asymmetry caused by the shadow tbh

[placid urchin]

left is old right is new (this is a draft btw, its not ingame yet so it might change a bit)

i like it tbh, has the simplicity of vanilla's ui design but still stands out

also i didnt want to type out ''SELECT'' since that wouldve taken up a lot of space so i thought a minus button would be a fit 🥹

[rapid shale]

Perfect

[rapid shale]

much more stylish 🥹

[wild gorge]

This is so fucking amazing

[rapid shale]

From where were you taking inspiration btw? What influenced you whatever

Curious

Power up slot remind me heavily on 3D world

[placid urchin]

it is ❤️‍🩹

[placid urchin]

oh nah i was just talking to a friend one day and the bottom screen subject came up
then I just tried doing whatever while keeping it simple 😭

[short pelican]

Is there a point in numbering the big flower coins?

[placid urchin]

he mentioned how the reserve in the top middle wasn’t the best idea )which I agree) because it’d be too far from your thumbs to touch it

[placid urchin]

not neccesarily, I just wanted to make that take a bit more space

I did wanna make the 3 be a flower instead though but that might be tricky