An Ordinary NSMB Mod

[austere scaffold]

i think people beat that level without even using the snake block lmao

i think 7 castle is an issue?

[upbeat crow]

lmao damn

Is it now? I did the typical playthru of 1-5-8

Ig ill sometime do the other worlds

[true bobcat]

7-Castle is definitely tough

[upbeat crow]

never thought I'd see nsmb turned into a strategy game tho
Was ironically a lot of fun lul

[nimble pond]

Yeah, I find 7-Castle a bit harder than 8-Tower 2, in 8-Tower 2 you just have to optimize your powerups very well and defeat Bowser Jr. fast, in 7-Castle there's a part where you have to hit a block just in time, which makes it a bit stressing

[upbeat crow]

Oh shii

Looking forward to tormenting myself with that level

Would that level be the hardest one in the hack? Or could there possible be another

[austere scaffold]

1-A is i believe the hardest 💀

[upbeat crow]

My

My friend had the unfortunate fate of opening that level

First time he played

[austere scaffold]

it was deemed impossible before but @ lanzaguisantes beat it

[nimble pond]

But nobody talks about 2-6?

Or the regular exit in 5-Ghosthouse?

[upbeat crow]

I never tried the regular exit yet

Well thanks for that info yall
And also for this gem of a hack lul

[fair locust]

its possible

||even in the beta with no additional blocks||

[nimble pond]

Hmmm

[true bobcat]

https://youtu.be/pesehLjcNNo?si=yWncJjwP_VIJHKzA

It happened LMAO

[austere scaffold]

the algorithm hitting like crazy

[old salmon]

NAH LMAO

[slow flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-finally-rest-watch-sunrise-grateful-universe-gif-14058636

[lapis saddle]

now we should wait for vs mario song lol

[austere scaffold]

i can imagine the ordinary mario one sounding more like something from the 3d series like luigi's mansion or something galaxy/64/sunshine

[nimble pond]

LMFAO

[old salmon]

I showcased this mod to my friend, and when ndy release the vs update we will play

[lapis saddle]

omaga vs mode

[bleak slate]

Oh no what the fuck
How did it blow up that much

[upbeat crow]

I'm getting Randoms and friends to play the mod

[true bobcat]

I need to work on the update more but I just haven’t wanted to

Wah burnout sucks

It's "almost" there. Just gotta figure out why a bunch of things crash

Maybe after taking a break the issues will be obvious

[austere scaffold]

gl!

[true bobcat]

Thanks

[true bobcat]

Hmm

The move might be to go back and just hack the code together for it to work

And solve this another day

Since that's doable

[upbeat crow]

theres 1 question i gotta ask abt this hack tho

[true bobcat]

Hm

[upbeat crow]

iunno exactly how to phrase this but
how does the fkn lives spam happen when you beat a level with the mega mushroom?

that still perplexes me

[true bobcat]

Oh wait bruh

That's a bug

Obviously :p

What’s happening is that the game is destroying the chaser when you clear the level

But then the controller sees that the chaser despawns, and spawns a new one

[austere scaffold]

which im assuming respawns a flagpole cus u cant beat the game while in spooky mode or smt

[lament flower]

Can you link me to the recent version again

[true bobcat]

See the og post

[upbeat crow]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh lmao
So same case is when you beat bowser with fireflower too XD

[true bobcat]

I fixed the bowser one

In 1.1.1

[upbeat crow]

for both bowser fights?

[true bobcat]

Yes?

[upbeat crow]

goodie

lmao

looking forward to the new changes tho

best of luck

[true bobcat]

Thanks

[true bobcat]

I have now fixed this

Pretty easy fix too :p

[upbeat crow]

yayyyy

my friend is gonna get so pissed lmao

[true bobcat]

[upbeat crow]

needless to say their days got ruined

[heavy holly]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[true bobcat]

Man, this update is gonna kill me before I release it

-# Har har haunted har har

Every angle just backfires

[fair locust]

well ofc

||weegee.exe (3am not clickbait) is sabotoging||

[true bobcat]

[coarse knoll]

Ordinary 🚽

[true bobcat]

I think I'm accepting the fact I just don’t know how to get this to work in MvsL without starting over

At least for each player having their own unique instance of the chaser

I'll try just getting the one chaser mode working at the least

[slow flicker]

what problem are you having?

[true bobcat]

Yes

Both approaches I've tried to get this to work will not cooperate:

1. Refactoring majority of the code into the chaser instead of the controller causes everything to basically stop working
2. Refactoring the controller to manage 2 chasers

I think 2 is doable...but not by me

[true bobcat]

Finally we're getting somewhere

[true bobcat]

Ok, slowly but surely chipping away at this

Stopping now so I don’t stay up all night trying to fix a crash

[upbeat crow]

What are the odds someone tries doing this on the MVL online game 🥶

[austere scaffold]

the urge to ping a certain someone ....

[true bobcat]

LMAO

By all means; that would be sick to see

[upbeat crow]

Omg fr

Bricks would be the safest map in any case fr

[true bobcat]

Uhhhhhh oops LMAO

[upbeat crow]

THATS SCARY

[true bobcat]

Hitting a brick doesn’t get rid of the chaser in MvsL for this reason ;)

[upbeat crow]

smort

[true bobcat]

You know I don’t really know how to fix this?

I think it’s related to changing the target player immediately after telling it to swap the palettes around

[hot wadi]

Yo that's kinda sick actually

[iron nexus]

make it a rare easter egg.

[upbeat crow]

oml imagine

chaser instead of outright killing you just blacks out everything around for sum time

[lapis saddle]

this actually looks cool for some reason...

imagine

blind mode hehejeheek

[austere scaffold]

wait this actually reminds me of 64ds

that one option that wasnt really useful for anything in the settings 👽

[austere scaffold]

-# tbh i wouldnt mind if it completely mad the player blind instead of killing

[fair locust]

||hes just standing there||

||MENACINGLY||

[true bobcat]

It works, woo!

This is ominous looking lmao

[old salmon]

Ndy, how that will work

If the player get caught he lost?

And the player will pass the chaser to the other one?

Also, they chaser will always come from left? Or it can come from right certain times?

[true bobcat]

No, it just kills the player

[old salmon]

Oh ok

Looking forward for play it lol

[true bobcat]

Yeah, always from the left

[true bobcat]

Any player interaction that causes a big star to drop will "pass" the chaser

(Excluding dying)

[old salmon]

Gotcha

Thats pretty interesting

[austere scaffold]

perhaps u could lend a playtest patch heh...

jokes aside tho congrats!!

[true bobcat]

Sure, here you go

Singleplayer is broken rn

But I haven’t noticed any problems with MvsL

[austere scaffold]

just tried it with @lapis saddle
its really fun lmao, i think we spent most of the time just ''helping'' eachother get out of spooky mode

i think all i can think of is maybe add more ways to both get rid of spooky mode and grant spooky mode (not sure if you already had that planned)

and maybe if you get killed by the ordinary m/l then pass the spooky mode to the other player instead of still having it since it can be a bit wonky lol

other than that tho awesome job

[true bobcat]

Thanks

[lapis saddle]

honestly this versus mode really peak, it really feels like a challenge and kinda a different experiencie

[true bobcat]

I will update it more in the future, but I am happy with this being a "v1"

[lapis saddle]

question, how the spooky mode works in versus mode?

like

i feel sometimes is random or smt

like sometimes it takes some time for the other player get the spooky mode

meanwhile for the other it just takes like seconds

[true bobcat]

If you are in the lead, the spooky mode timer is cut in half to keep you on your toes

(If the game is even, it's RNG)

[austere scaffold]

ohhh

[austere scaffold]

wait wdym cut in half

as in if you're in the lead you get chasen faster while in spooky mode?

or takes twice as fast to ''start'' spooky mode

[true bobcat]

It takes 600 frames before the static happens

If you're in the lead, that gets cut in half

[austere scaffold]

o

[true bobcat]

So yes, for starting spooky mode

ONSMB v2 is out!

https://github.com/Ndymario/Ordinary-NSMB-Mod/releases/tag/v2.0

Highlights:

• MvsL
• 1-ups now reduce the life counter in spooky mode
• Activating challenge mode removes the ability for blocks to reset the chaser. (Stupidly dumb challenge that is probably not possible)

[austere scaffold]

1-1 bonus room is now a debonus room if you have a fire flower 💀

[true bobcat]

1up houses are no longer recommend

[lapis saddle]

me with 1up trick in 1-1:

[austere scaffold]

how to lose all ur lives 🔥

wait

now that i think aout it does getting 1ups only affect the item itself or the combos too

[true bobcat]

This also means if any more bugs are found where the chaser gives you infinite lives, you actually just lose all of them

[nimble pond]

And I used the infinite lives trick to survive the entire mod

[austere scaffold]

or just any form of 1up

[true bobcat]

If life would go up, it go down in spooky mode

In theory you can still do life tricks

Just gotta be carful

[lapis saddle]

wait

[nimble pond]

Or do it fast before haunted Weegie chases you

[lapis saddle]

are u saying that if i die by the spooky luigi im gonna lose all my lives 🛌

or wait maybe im getting confussed lol

[austere scaffold]

quiere decir q cualquier forma en q ganes una vida, si la ganas mientras estas en el spooky mode, pierdes una en vez

[true bobcat]

lol no that would be brutal

[nimble pond]

He's saying that in spooky mode, every time you collect an 1-Up, it decreases your life counter

[austere scaffold]

spanis moment :fire

[nimble pond]

Descargar para Android

[lapis saddle]

OHHHH

I SEE

oh damn

🦅

[true bobcat]

The lose all lives thing was just talking this type of bug:

https://youtu.be/jtWJ8DeBmsI?si=JvpjXI81EdSZr9bp

[lapis saddle]

a LMAO

ok yeah i see how this works

[true bobcat]

[austere scaffold]

died to die less

[upbeat crow]

Omg negative lives

No more crutch

[lapis saddle]

i wonder if you can do 100% in ordinany nsmb...

[true bobcat]

It is possible

I think

Or at least it has not been reported to be impossible so far

[upbeat crow]

tl;dr were doomed

I straight up haven't bothered
Even the final level I have 0 star coins

[true bobcat]

LOL

Fair

[upbeat crow]

It's fun to play

not complete :(

also fun to break sumtimes

[true bobcat]

It would never break

Never ever

[upbeat crow]

did

past tense

time to see about it now

[true bobcat]

If I say that was an intended Easter egg, it didn’t break

[upbeat crow]

(It wasn't intended cuz it was an oversight ;) )

[true bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/halloqueen-gif-6136949

[upbeat crow]

lmfao

Big zad that it's impossible to beat the final boss with the mega mushroom

[lapis saddle]

hey ndymario, when u re on a cutscene, even if u re on spooky mode, spooky mario or luigi stills there

is it intentional?

cuz its kinda annoying waiting for the cutscene ends before luigi kills you cuz u cant move 👽

[austere scaffold]

i think thats intentional cause u can just use a reserve item right before the cutscene and then beat the boss (u can beat the boss even in spooky mode)

[lapis saddle]

if i wanna save my reserve 🦅

[austere scaffold]

you cant in this romhack :trolled

[upbeat crow]

The reserve is always gone one way or another

[true bobcat]

Yes

[true bobcat]

It’s actually not!
I did it a lot for testing. The timing to pop the mega so you transform instead of clearing spooky mode is really tight but is just barely possible

[upbeat crow]

Ooohhh okay

Might do some attempts then

[fringe hornet]

just a question: how does the grayscale effect thing work? is it a duplicate of every single palette, or is it some code that manipulates the colors?

[true bobcat]

The code makes a backup of the current palette, then goes through each color and uses a formula for making each color grayscale

[fringe hornet]

for 1ups reducing lives, does this mean 1up mushrooms basically become poison mushrooms/negative mushrooms now? interesting

[fringe hornet]

ohh interesting

does this color manipulation trick require extra ram to store the grayscale generated palette?

[true bobcat]

The grayscale one is just wrote oever the currently loaded palette

[upbeat crow]

I found it interesting how so far only in world 2s boss u can get out of spooky world by hitting the boss
Iunno if that's intentional

[true bobcat]

What version are you playing

I thought I fixed that

[upbeat crow]

oh wait did u?

I'll try it in the new update then
(Before then I was on 1.1)

[fringe hornet]

oh okay. and then does it reload the original palette when you exit spooky mode?

[austere scaffold]

wonder why this doesnt fully work with nsbtx's and models

[true bobcat]

Yes

[true bobcat]

Gamerator and I couldn’t find how to manipulate 3D textures like that

[true bobcat]

Ah, 1.1.1 fixed this

[upbeat crow]

ohhhh myb

[true bobcat]

https://youtu.be/KxtKslxrGis?si=2MfSYMZqNtxSkZa7

Grr he didn’t credit me/link the mod edit: he did, I'm a goof

But still cool he played it!

[austere scaffold]

btg out of all people 😭

[true bobcat]

He also added in the Sonic.exe song in spooky mode

Strange choice

(In the context of the "intended" experience is no music)

Wait my bad, he did link it

Woo

Oh hey @austere scaffold could you get some footage of spooky MvsL?

Since you have someone readily available to play with

[austere scaffold]

oh we'll try to

[true bobcat]

Woo thanks

Watching his video, apparently my block I put in is gone

This means the one in is gone too

Uh oh

1-A is still beatable tho

[slow flicker]

Im gonna need to try and get one of my friends to play it with me so I can have some footage

[austere scaffold]

-# just wait until ordinary nsmb coop hehe....

[true bobcat]

Might be possible to mix the two?

I'll simply pester @marble fable

[austere scaffold]

i'd only imagine it being easier to work with than the old code since you already have MvsL working decently lol
the only problem i can see is possibly pausing, but im no expert so

[marble fable]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-fire-fnaf-3-ending-hospital-disaster-gif-1976739374427047349

[true bobcat]

LMAO

[marble fable]

It will be easy to mix the two

but co-op is not stable yet

I'd like to get it done faster but university is annoying af

4 projects in one semester is sickening

[true bobcat]

Ew

Yeah take your time, no rush

[upbeat crow]

gonna try the mvl real soon

waiting for a friend to get home

[true bobcat]

[true bobcat]

Bleh, hot fix time

The closest I've gotten is stalling out using the powerups from the blocks, but the platforms always take them away

Gonna keep trying a few times

Ok no, it's impossible

[nimble pond]

Told ja

[true bobcat]

It would be if powerups didn’t jump on the "bahs"

I even tried pausing before a bah to buy more time, but you eventually have to hit a block again, thus causing the bah anyway

https://github.com/Ndymario/Ordinary-NSMB-Mod/releases/tag/v2.1

[austere scaffold]

i forgot that was a thing ngl

[fair locust]

||im gonna give feedback to||

||on singleplayer||

[true bobcat]

:|

[fair locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[true bobcat]

Banned

[fair locust]

dawg im joking 😭 🙏

i dont even need it 💀

[true bobcat]

Nope

Banned

[old salmon]

Breaking news!! Ndy bans a member for no reason, and lost the owner role!!

[austere scaffold]

itztacos promoted to owner

[nimble pond]

Correction: Ndy bans a member with justification and gets promoted to ruler of the world

[old salmon]

Will Smith would be a better owner

[upbeat crow]

its over

[austere scaffold]

YOU wouldnt be a better owner 🏚️ (?)

[old salmon]

(And then banned from nsmbc)

[nimble pond]

Not if we ban you first

[austere scaffold]

mirror react this guy

[old salmon]

Will Smith would be a better owner 🏡

[upbeat crow]

he was then never seen again

[upbeat crow]

I should not have gone thru so much hassle to play scary mvl with someone online

but jfc that was pretty fun

[true bobcat]

I’m kinda getting tired of that joke ngl
Granted it could not be a joke, then in that case I’m tired of reading it

[fair locust]

nah me fr

||also im 99% sure 8-8 is the easiest level||

[upbeat crow]

8-7 is easier

[true bobcat]

:(

[old salmon]

Grr oki 😭

[nimble pond]

Behave or I'll behave you

[true bobcat]

The 1-1 in question

[nimble pond]

Reminds me that I used to go back to everytime to grind 1-Ups and powerups

[iron nexus]

only ordinary luigi sticker?

what about mario?

[true bobcat]

I don’t have a render for Mario yet at sticker scale

[upbeat crow]

I always did 1-2 cuz of the free reserve

Also parsec ftw
When no vpns work, the last resort always works
Tho is there a way that I missed to play the DS MVL online with others?

[austere scaffold]

dont think so
me and blucor use parsec too lol

i only know melonDS lets you use wifi for WFC, but that would only work for ds games that use it such as MKDS

[austere scaffold]

also outta curiosity wdym by vpn? is there something else you used to connect to another person?

[upbeat crow]

i mean like

hamachi/radmin

[austere scaffold]

ohhh i see, yea i've used those before lol

-# technically speaking that didnt answer my question tho unless im missing something 🤔

[upbeat crow]

Those are the vpns

lmao

Like

There's melon ds builds with fkn lan functionality
But even with these vpns, it don't work

[austere scaffold]

ohhh

i see hmm

[upbeat crow]

I'm glad I could even play to begin with

Even if the other guy had to deal with west to east coast latency

[austere scaffold]

LMAO same here, gotta deal with south america-central/north america latency 🥹

[upbeat crow]

Awwwwwdhhwbwd

I wish it was easier for the procedure to work with lan

Or better yet this mod to be put in the unity MVLO

[old salmon]

-# Sorry 🥹

[nimble pond]

Lmfaooo

[true bobcat]

Huh

What emulator is that?

[upbeat crow]

melonds

OMG

SOFLOCK

[true bobcat]

LMAO

[austere scaffold]

FIRE

[true bobcat]

I know what's causing that

[austere scaffold]

thats so random tho 😭

did it just naturally happen in the cutscene or did smt trigger it

[true bobcat]

I forgot to make the transition out of spooky mode on death only apply in MvsL

Boss cutscene

[upbeat crow]

WAIT SO IT WASNT INTENTIONAL?

thank goodness

honestly it was scarier in the silence

[nimble pond]

LMAO

"I won, but at what cost? 😔 "

[upbeat crow]

rest of the playthru was realatively safe

[true bobcat]

GG!

[nimble pond]

GG, congrats dude

[old salmon]

ndy im not managing to beat the final caslte 😭

[nimble pond]

Skill issue

[true bobcat]

[true bobcat]

Why do negative comments stick out more than positive ones

Such a strange phenomenon

[slow flicker]

yeah, there are so many negitive ones on my part 1, But i guess thats what happens when a vid has 107k views

[true bobcat]

This has been fixed now

If it didn’t softlock the game, I would’ve kept it in ngl LMAO

[true bobcat]

I'm not really sure how to fix this one ngl

I used the same import technique that fixed this issue for Ordinary Luigi

Yeah they use the exact same amount of resources

Hmm

https://github.com/Ndymario/Ordinary-NSMB-Mod/releases/tag/v2.1.1

[upbeat crow]

wtf bro scary mario broken 😩

Oml new update

Time for another playthrough

[true bobcat]

Lmao

[upbeat crow]

Absolute casual finds jank

now makes me wish I could've beta tested 😭

lmao

[true bobcat]

LOL

Tbf this bug was introduced in v2

[upbeat crow]

yea, but let's not forget abt a few others

mega mushroom

[true bobcat]

Introduced in 1.1.1

[upbeat crow]

Speaking of

[true bobcat]

None of the things you've found were in v1 :p

[upbeat crow]

1.1 was what I played first

stalemate

All seriousness tho iunno it's still fun to look lmao

Might try replicating that corrupted scary mario if I even can

[true bobcat]

It's not hard, boss rooms run out of vram somehow

So just enter a boss arena

[upbeat crow]

oh

damn

funny as hell

[austere scaffold]

I mean aren’t the boss models and textures like very high poly? I remember bowser’s textures having palettes of like 512+ colors, and his model has like 915 faces

[true bobcat]

I'm confused because Spooky Luigi takes up the same amout of VRAM as Spooky Mario, but Luigi doesn’t implode

[spring stone]

implode 🤯🤯

[upbeat crow]

legit eerie

[bleak slate]

thats absolutely terrifying

[ember mulch]

Polygons don't consume VRAM

[old salmon]

Yea

[austere scaffold]

just had a 15 minutes ordinary mvsl match 🔥

[true bobcat]

Did you record

[lapis saddle]

hi ndy, i recorded all the vs maps of ordinary with frosty!!!!
do you want them?

[austere scaffold]

menuda formalidad

[austere scaffold]

(as in like clips or the whole videos)

[lapis saddle]

oh yeah

[true bobcat]

Send

[lapis saddle]

they are full videos, do you want me to edit them? or you re gonna do it yourself?

[true bobcat]

Full is fine

Mostly just curious to see y’all’s reactions to it lol

I might yoink for an update video if y’all don’t mind

[austere scaffold]

the best you'll get is pausing LMAO

[true bobcat]

LOL

[austere scaffold]

cause like

there was this one pipe clip

actually just send that @lapis saddle

[austere scaffold]

the fact that i got out of spooky mode makes it better 💀

[true bobcat]

Why did you pause?

Or was that like a “lmao hold on pause”

That was brutal tho LMAO

[austere scaffold]

yea lol, pretty much any pause in the videos is basically that
with the exception of 1 in fortress cause i lagged out

oh yeah, the 15 minute match was fortress

we kept dying 😭

[slow flicker]

Lmao, that’s so untrue

Only w1 is easy as hell

[fair locust]

LMAO

[nimble pond]

It's really easy to judge when you haven't even played the game

[austere scaffold]

i feel like this mod gets ridiculously frowned upon

like gawddamn try things yourself before making opinions 🙏🙏

[nimble pond]

It's the internet man, there's always toxic assholes

[upbeat crow]

this is too easy mfs when they get to 8 -2

[fair locust]

[upbeat crow]

yeah well

that level is mandatory

[fair locust]

[fair locust]

[upbeat crow]

that level is cake

[fair locust]

not in the beta

[upbeat crow]

oh

how much worse was it

[fair locust]

1 block from the checkpoint

[nimble pond]

Wdym? That level is easy

[upbeat crow]

what

is the

red ring not there?

[fair locust]

no it was

[nimble pond]

Autoscroller levels tend to be the hardest ones

[upbeat crow]

4-3 ive not beaten on my 1.1 save

[fair locust]

with this code would be hell in n*wer 😭 🙏

[fair locust]

i havent beaten 5- on the beta save

[nimble pond]

That level is possible, there's a part where you just have to hit a brick on time before a giant Unagi destroys it

[upbeat crow]

except 8-5

[upbeat crow]

thought so but

sadly i had to upgrade versions and

[fair locust]

that ones easy on beta😭 🙏

[upbeat crow]

never got around to getting w4

[nimble pond]

Aren't most levels untouched in the different revisions though?

[fair locust]

yea

all the levels were untouched in beta

before the beta update 😭

[upbeat crow]

damn

i dont even have level designs memorized so iunno which ones have xtra blocks or different placements

[nimble pond]

I haven't even updated the game since the last revision Ndy sent me

[upbeat crow]

damn

Is it pre-mvl revamp?

[nimble pond]

I think it was from the exact same day Ndy made the post, lmao

[upbeat crow]

zamn

[true bobcat]

Seems to only be on lets plays; trailer has mostly good things to say or "ooo cool"

[fair locust]

ndy you should add this

in the spooky mode

[true bobcat]

?

[fair locust]

the water

[true bobcat]

The only level with a block is

has been proven possible without an edit

[fair locust]

wasnt

[true bobcat]

Shh

[nimble pond]

World 6 doesn't have a ghost house

Bro, wtf is wrong with Discord, my messages won't send

[nimble pond]

Yeah, Discord must be buggy

[austere scaffold]

replace the big stars with ztars when ur in spooky mode in mvsl 🔥

[coarse knoll]

omg

@dnymrio

[austere scaffold]

dna mario 💀

[lapis saddle]

dni mario

[coarse knoll]

Dê Êni Á Mário

@ frost @ bluco do you agree

[true bobcat]

You won’t believe this but I actually was thinking about that last night LOL

The problem is that would make it way too hard for the person who has the chaser to win

Though I did think about making big stars dropped from the player with the chaser be big ztars

[coarse knoll]

You can't escape this idea anymore

[true bobcat]

True!

The current idea I can’t escape from is making Star Coins get rid of spooky mode

I keep getting comments saying I should do that

[coarse knoll]

you mean

Ordinary mode

[true bobcat]

:p

[nimble pond]

It's not a bad idea, but that'd make the entire game much easier =P

[coarse knoll]

true

i prefer the challenge

Also Ndy why do you look like Red King from clash royale

[true bobcat]

Mario + Clash = King Mario

So me irl :p

[upbeat crow]

Dude if that were the case
My fkn 100% diehard friend would absolutely die

[bleak slate]

what if there was a 2 player mode where like 1 player controls the chaser and it can like move freely and the other player has to survive a set amount of time
and the regular player can temporarily freeze the chaser using like blocks or whatever

probably too complicated to implement

[lapis saddle]

@true bobcat heyy can i dm you for send the full ordinary mvl videos?

[true bobcat]

Can send them here or in DM, whichever is fine

[lapis saddle]

alr

[austere scaffold]

👽................

[true bobcat]

Thanks you for the gameplay!

I'm glad to see it had the intended effect of making running away a bad strat

Also glad no desyncs/crashes happened

[upbeat crow]

Honestly shocked the gameplay was pretty seamless

Tho it was a bit confusing to get the hang of a bit (since the rules were different)

[true bobcat]

That's fair, hard to communicate the gimmick that well

But I'm glad you enjoyed it

[lapis saddle]

[austere scaffold]

🗣️

[coarse knoll]

[iron nexus]

skill issue

[nimble pond]

I started playing this on real hardware last night and it's a very unique experience

-# Or should I say ordinary experience?

I also managed to beat 1-A

And I found a minor bug, if you pause the game at a perfect time when returning to normal mode, the music will still play while the game is paused

[austere scaffold]

perfect if you just wanna leave ur ds for listening to music

I kinda wish more games had that feature

[true bobcat]

Huh. Call it a feature lol, that’s more effort than it’s worth to fix

[nimble pond]

Fair

[brittle pagoda]

Is it possible to play as Luigi in this mod? Does Luigi get chased by Luigi?

[quick matrix]

Julian Vanlian

Yes, it probably is.

[fringe hornet]

1. yes
2. i think yes in older versions, now by mario i think

[brittle pagoda]

I have a nicer idea, if you're playing as Luigi, you're chased by Weegee, no animations, just the Weegee PNG

[coarse knoll]

Super Mario 4 Jugadores mansion level easter egg moment

[austere scaffold]

woah windows jumpscare hi windows

[rare ice]

did i miss something?

[true bobcat]

You'll need to narrow that down some lmao

[austere scaffold]

huh

[half elk]

hi, i just started playing this hack today and it's really fun, really makes me rethink how i play mario lol. but i encountered some very big bugs:

1. if the ordinary mode starts on the same frame (i think) i touch the flag pole, the static just stays there and the game is softlocked
2. there's no bottom cap for the lives so if you have 0 or -1 lives, the game crashes when you go to the map (either beating a level, dying, or 1-up house). if you get to -2 lives the game crashes the moment you touch the 1up mushroom.
3. in 1up houses, ordinary mode starts before you're able to do anything and hitting the blocks doesn't disable it. so, because of #2, if you enter the 1-up house you've gotta be lucky to not have to restart the game (since you're pretty unlikely to have many lives)

[true bobcat]

1. Huh, didn’t know of that one. That would be hard to fix
2. Known issue. Fix will be made soon
3. 

Thanks for playing!

[sacred egret]

can this be played on the 3ds using twilight menu?

[slow walrus]

Yes I play on 3ds twilight menu myself.

[fringe hornet]

so the 3rd one is [Intentional Game Design]?

[true bobcat]

Yes ;p

You gotta earn those 1-ups 😤

[half elk]

crashing the game to own the libs

[coarse knoll]

Imagine toad just watches you getting fucking killed by fucking bloody Luigi

[nimble pond]

Just hide behind Toadsworth so that Luigi kills him instead

[true bobcat]

1-up bug is fixed

Throwing in another mechanic tied to 1-ups

[true bobcat]

||If you get a 1-up at 1 life left, it'll speed up the chaser instead||

Shoutout to @nimble pond for sending the zdeltu gui in his demo folder, I've used his mod every time I've needed to make a new patch LOL

[nimble pond]

LMAO

Btw Ndy, if you're gonna release a new update I'd suggest maybe changing the title and game banner, I had like three hacks on my DS who had the vanilla icon and title and I didn't know which one was ONSMB

[true bobcat]

Hmm

How hard is that

[lucid walrus]

theres a tool for making banners in #downloads-and-resources

[true bobcat]

Ok

@lucid walrus any idea why trying to replae the banner gives "file being edited" error

(In NSMBe)

Wait it worked anyway tho

Oh well

[nimble pond]

Oh yeah, the in game icon can be directly edited in NSMBe, for editing the title you need an external tool

[true bobcat]

I got you Ztar

[nimble pond]

🔥

[austere scaffold]

LITERALLY SAME

[true bobcat]

https://github.com/Ndymario/Ordinary-NSMB-Mod/releases/tag/v2.2

v2.2 is here!

[spring stone]

Geometry dash 2.2

[fringe hornet]

r/beatmetoit 😭

[hot wadi]

ndy I think you should add a scripulous fingore easter egg, the people would love that shit

[nimble pond]

https://tenor.com/view/scripulous-fingore-scripulousfingore-scripulous-guitar-scrip-scrip-guitar-gif-1481774572464409354

[old salmon]

I would love

[old salmon]

LMAO

Ztar where do you find those shit 😭

[mental cipher]

yeah, make 0.1% chance to replace mario/luigi with fingore

[old salmon]

0,1% change that the chaser get replaced by fingore

[true bobcat]

n0

[old salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/buco-nero-moneta-terra-gif-21793787

[nimble pond]

Idk if it's just me, but I can't download the latest version, it says "virus detected" and I tried on 3 different browsers

[old salmon]

Thats why i only download stuff on my phone

Download on pc is a shit

[true bobcat]

Ugh same problem as you: I include the xdeltaUI

I’ll upload the .xdelta as a release when I get home

[iron nexus]

the chaser wants your pc

[true bobcat]

LOL

[true bobcat]

xdelta uploaded to the releases page

[brittle pagoda]

Why doesn't Mario jump on the evil Luigi to defeat him? Is he stupid?

[true bobcat]

Can’t jump on him if he’s always on the same level as Mario now can he :p

[old salmon]

My headcanon is that mario is so scared of evil luigi that he dont even think in jumping on him

[snow portal]

He's obviously a spiky enemy

[true bobcat]

You can't jump on Boos

So it just extends to ghosts in general

[old salmon]

So he's a ghost

Ordinary luigi/maio i mean

[brittle pagoda]

Yeah

Btw in case it wasn't obvious, I was asking this ironically, like in the Batman Reddit memes

[snow portal]

BatmanArkham mentioned? Is there a lore reason?

[brittle pagoda]

Those who know -> 💀

[true bobcat]

Note to self:
0x0218a57c is the Game Over screen

[rose peak]

Yo wsg, I'm new here. Concerned about 1-A is it beatable?

Wait I figured it out. Going to Toad house to grab a reserve after checkpoint ❤️‍🩹

[true bobcat]

Welcome!

And yes you def need a reserve lol

[fair locust]

trust me im built different

original version no reserve

[slow flicker]

💀

[nimble pond]

What the actual fuck?

With all the due respect, is that kid stupid?

[slow flicker]

well, congrats to ndy for making a mod popular enough that people hide viruses in it lmao

[nimble pond]

I sorta get a feeling that this kid tried to download the hack, but it got flagged because of xdelta and that's why he says this

[coarse knoll]

Supear dedly virus !!!!!!!!!@!!!!

[old salmon]

Its true!! I downladed it and now my pc boots with the skibidi toilet song, and my wallpaper got changed to skibidi toilet, and my pc turned into a toilet, dont download this guys its true trust me 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[lucid walrus]

of course ndy would use a romhack as a vessel for which to infect kids computers. his recurrent malignacy knows no bounds.

[iron nexus]

ordinary luigi wants your pc

[fringe hornet]

it's the kind of people who believe the wario apparition is real

[ebon terrace]

WHAT?! IT WAS NOT REAL!?!! I CAN'T TRUST ANYONE!!! What's next? Herobrine isn't real? Santa Claus? Huh?!

[fringe hornet]

No Santa Claus is actually real. Don't listen to the people who say he doesn't. If almost nobody ever saw him, it's because he can stop time.

[lament flower]

If time can stop, the entire universe would pause

[fringe hornet]

not Santa Claus

he has the same kind of stand as Star Platinum

[lament flower]

I do think Santa is real

But he ain't that powerful

And if people look up they will see him one day

[fair locust]

oh no

[ebon terrace]

And Ms.Claus?

[fair locust]

its the super duper malware para android punjabi

😱

[ebon terrace]

Descargar MediaFire android gratis no virus 100% real no fake

[fair locust]

you forgot the xxx

[ebon terrace]

🤨📸

[fair locust]

Descargar MediaFire android gratis no virus 100% real no fake xxx punjabi 沒有病毒，相信上帝

[true bobcat]

Ok that's enough

[fair locust]

alr

also 2-6 is too easy

trust

[fair locust]

but frs 8-t2

[sly python]

es posible este nivel con el mod? hasta ahora he podido completar el 100% de todos los mundos excepto esta torre y el nivel pasado no alcanza el tiempo a conseguir la 2da moneda

[nimble pond]

Si es posible, tienes que completar la primera mitad del nivel sin usar el bloque serpiente verde, luego muere y empieza otra vez el nivel desde el checkpoint

Además, te recomiendo que hables en inglés, ya que es el idioma principal del servidor

[sly python]

a

[sly python]

i guess i need to put more effort

[nimble pond]

Yeah, the level is possible, just a bit precise

[sly python]

same as others okay i try but its posible to get the second star coin in the previous level? i want to 100% the rom hack

[nimble pond]

Yeah, all the star coins in this level are possible

[sly python]

i'm talking about 8-8

[nimble pond]

Oh yeah, the second star coin there is possible, it's just really hard, you must beat the mini maze extremely fast

[sly python]

damm okay i will try to get that coin

another question its possible to beat the ghost house's in world 5 the normal exit?

[nimble pond]

I haven't been able to get the normal exit there, so I'm pretty sure it's not possible

[sly python]

crazynes

[sly python]

finally 99.9% the game still remains the ghost house from world 5

[spring stone]

Funny but at first I downloaded this game without looking at the trailer 💀 so when I patched the xdelta I thought I patched it wrong because nothing changed until I played the level

[fringe hornet]

lol

[sly python]

guess what

i completed 5-ghost house normal exit

@nimble pond

its posible to 100% the rom hack

[fringe hornet]

wow GG

[sly python]

some levels are so hard and timing but posible

[sly python]

now i know it is possible

[true bobcat]

Impressive! How’d you do it?

[sly python]

mini mushroom

like

enter the level mini

and a reserve

[true bobcat]

Interesting

I’d love to see a full run

I’ll try it myself when I have more time

[sly python]

and go fucking fast

[sly python]

Maybe i record a video sometime

[sly python]

https://youtu.be/iuIuh95Qlss?si=gy8ILUkpr41tRgpQ look

[true bobcat]

Bro is cracked, holy

GG!

[sly python]

XD

[sly python]

thanks

knowing mechanics

[nimble pond]

Damn, that's crazy

GG's man

[sly python]

thanks i figure to use mini mushroom in that level cuz of the constantly retry an retry for the 8-8 star coin xD

think on reserve fast wall jumps low gravity xdxdxd

a strange idk pixel perfect wall jump whit the mini power up

crazyness

[true bobcat]

Bug fixes my beloved

https://github.com/Ndymario/Ordinary-NSMB-Mod/releases/tag/v2.2.1

I wish I knew why ordinary Mario's NSBTX doesn't load correctly in boss rooms

I had fixed that with ordinary Luigi

The amount of vram usage and whatnot is the same between both

So in theory both should either work or not

[sly python]

crazyness

[old salmon]

Ndy there will be a jumpscare update?

Im dreaming with this

[true bobcat]

I think I’m mostly done updating this mod

I’ll still do bug fixes ofc

But I’m happy with how the mod ended up

[old salmon]

Gotcha

Its a fun mod and challenge too ngl

[true bobcat]

That was the main goal

[old salmon]

-# for some reason, i stopped palying the main game at 8-6 and started grambling with luigi on minigames for some reason, i need to beat this

[true bobcat]

LMAO

Goooooof

[slow flicker]

thats where my gambling addiction started...

/j

[nimble pond]

Jokes aside I was actually very addicted to the Poker minigame

[slow flicker]

same

[old salmon]

SAMEEE

[old salmon]

I know how it feels illy.... i know how it feels.... 😔 😔

[brittle pagoda]

I just happened to be better at Luigi minigames than most of the others

Can't wait to try this mod, the challenge is very unique

I'm already busy with other games for now tho

[fair locust]

#nsmb-chat message

[iron nexus]

ordinary luigi gambling minigame instead of luigi gambling mingame when?

[old salmon]

LMAO

Tho who's ordanary luigi

[iron nexus]

next update, I assume

[old salmon]

Beat the mod

Bro it was hard on the final castle, died several times

But ngl

Pretty fun challenge, and made me replay nsmb with a extra challenge

10/10 ngl

Actually

100/10

♾️ / 10

[true bobcat]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[edgy pewter]

This is also on my to do list! The concept and creativity of this hack are outstanding!!! I really like this mod

[true bobcat]

Thank you!

[edgy pewter]

Is this mod playable on a real ds?

[ebon terrace]

yeah it is

[stark wave]

will be playable on DraStic?

[nimble pond]

Yes

[true bobcat]

Would y’all be interested in seeing a Ndy let’s play of this?

Might be fun to try and give some insight via commentary

[nimble pond]

If you do so I would definitely watch it

[hot wadi]

Me too

[fringe hornet]

would be interesting if you probably commented how some stuff works code-wise

[tiny river]

I would watch it

[fair locust]

ndy should i subscribe

to watch

[true bobcat]

Yes

[edgy pewter]

It looks like a star can't beat the chaser. That would be a funny easter egg

[true bobcat]

Lmao yeah

[true bobcat]

I got an idea for something special

I might try to do it and call it the final version

Being vague because I’m not going to show anything until it’s ready

[austere scaffold]

👀…….

[fair locust]

fingore....... /j

[fair locust]

ndy can you credit my nsmbhd acc

hxttps://nsmbhd.net/profile/6029-mosquito/

[austere scaffold]

mine too!

[true bobcat]

@austere scaffold what is your profile link

I found it

[fair locust]

[edgy pewter]

https://youtu.be/f4gwN3Uqeuk?si=ScjRwzlxI6wxNGwJ
2:10:40 Is this a wanted behavior or a (known) bug?

[true bobcat]

I thought I fixed that bug

[fair locust]

which one

[true bobcat]

What do you mean which one

The static not being at the correct zoom is a known issue that I have given up on fixing lmao

[fringe hornet]

i thought it was this AND the score thing at the end

[true bobcat]

The score thing is what I thought I fixed

[fringe hornet]

can it kill you or once your lives reach 0 they can't go any lower?

[true bobcat]

If you get lives at 0 in spooky mode, it speeds up Luigi

[fringe hornet]

oh ok

[fringe hornet]

oh okay then. and so here it has no effect since he's gone

[true bobcat]

Yeah

[stark wave]

pls update the hack

i cant play on drastic

[old salmon]

I played it on drastic

And it worked for me

[fair locust]

is it the one in dms form 5-2 in the beta?

[edgy pewter]

you patched wrong

its working for me as well

[old salmon]

^

[stark wave]

uhg

[true bobcat]

Do y'all want one sneak peak?

It's so hard for me to not share everything as I go, but I really want to save all the neat stuff for the update

But I can afford to show the start of something for the sake of hype

[old salmon]

Yup

I want

Show pls pls pls

[edgy pewter]

I bet it is related to the challenge mode

[old salmon]

Show ndy pls pls pls

🥺

[old salmon]

OMGGGGGGG

ITS HIM

[true bobcat]

Obviously still WIP

But yeah, I have some pretty crazy ideas for this

So this will take awhile to cook

[old salmon]

Will ordinary luigi be the true final boss?

[hot wadi]

was really hoping to see scripulous fingore when you entered that door 🧍‍♂️

well maybe next update...

[old salmon]

LMAO

[nimble pond]

Holy, I can't wait to see how this turns out

"Did you think Koopa worked alone" moment

[old salmon]

Ill add a secret scripullous fingore room in ssmb for u

[austere scaffold]

fun fact i got this spoiled

ndy such a bad coder i had to do everything for him 😔 /j

[true bobcat]

Yeah true mhm yeah ok

[old salmon]

But he didn't did the time block for nsmb: fj?

[true bobcat]

Yeah :p

Frosty helped get the model to cooperate

[austere scaffold]

returning favors

tbh i dont even think the model wasnt cooperating, it was just a small issue cause a step was missed

no wait i forgot about the animation

[true bobcat]

Yeah

[old salmon]

Luigi model or timer block?

[true bobcat]

The model

[old salmon]

Ohh oki

[edgy pewter]

What happens if you play as luigi and enter the room?

[slow flicker]

That guy is smth im working on for new++ lol

[old salmon]

I need to make the hand working for him

[true bobcat]

You fight Ordinary Mario instead. Just focusing on Luigi for now to focus on the code

[slow flicker]

Honestly I’m just going to use my own model. It doesn’t need animations and the hands are just gonna be 2d. I have a whole idea where he spans hands which try to kill you and you need to bounce off them to climb up to him

[snow portal]

"You thought Koopa worked alone?"

[austere scaffold]

i got so scared that i messed something up while testing my hack but i completely forgot that i changed the wonder flower model to test this

[true bobcat]

LMAO

[clever raft]

this is not a ordinary nsmb mod 😭

[fair locust]

yes it is

what are you talking about

[true bobcat]

He didn't use the latest version

Probably recorded it awhile ago and just waited to upload it

Actually he used v1; the snow pile was in front of the static

Bro got that vid backlog lmao

[slow flicker]

Have u made any progress on the custom final boss btw?

Im totaly not thinking of making an "ordinary ghost house for new++ btw"

[true bobcat]

I haven't had time

I have ideas

[austere scaffold]

me when motivation 📈 but time 📉

[true bobcat]

Exactly

[coarse knoll]

just pause it

[old salmon]

NO THIS MOD CANT BE PAUSED

[coarse knoll]

just pause time

[fringe hornet]

relatable

[snow portal]

Mood

[edgy pewter]

me when motivation 📈 but mental illness 📉

[true bobcat]

Ok one more update

[edgy pewter]

too late

😈

jk

[slow flicker]

That’s gonna do so well when I make a vid of it in the future

[mental cipher]

Are you planning to make another trailer for 2.0?

i believe that it would give more attention to the new version

[true bobcat]

Yes

This will also be an excuse to show off the MvsL mode in trailer form

[mental cipher]

oh yeah,there is mvsl? have you showed it before?

[true bobcat]

I never made a trailer showcasing it, but someone has recorded it

https://youtu.be/-9GKD92iZxA?si=dZHUflIM9IccjbUy

[true bobcat]

Working on the phase 1 attack. Utilizing a zone for this fight. Surprisingly useful to have a square defined around the arena the player will be in

Translation: Ndy got tired of fooling with an Active Collider and just reverted to good ol zone math :p

I’ll try again tomorrow

Probably still use zone math for most stuff, but just using the collider so when the attack bounces off of a wall for example, it will actually stop at the wall

[slow flicker]

what problem are you having?

[slow flicker]

how did you make the player look at luigi btw?

[true bobcat]

There’s a function in Game::. I can send it when I get to my computer

[true bobcat]

Having trouble defining the box. Not understanding how to transform it

It was late tho so maybe I just need to look at it again

[slow flicker]

this part?

[true bobcat]

I might be stupid

I was just editing the sensor functions

The line ones

[slow flicker]

i have done that before, more times then I want to admit

[true bobcat]

Is an ActiveCollider a subset of a normal Collider?

I think the difference is that an active one detects collisions purely in terms of “actor overlap”, while a normal collider is tilemap

[slow flicker]

active colliders detect active colliders and colliders detect when smth collides with a side

usauly a point sensor or line sensor

then point sensor/line sensors detect tile collision as well as platfrom collision

and collider colision

all I can say is if you want more info kust turn on the collision viewer with the lua script and see fir yourself

[true bobcat]

// We always want Mario/Luigi to look at the boss
Vec3 lookAtPos = Vec3(position.x, position.y + 32fx, 0);
Game::setPlayerLookAtPosition(lookAtPos);
Game::setPlayerLookingAtTarget(true);

[slow flicker]

thanks

[true bobcat]

[slow flicker]

I hope my roy fight can handle that slither of code

[true bobcat]

LMAO

arm9: 💥

[slow flicker]

worked

[true bobcat]

[mental cipher]

tbh scary soundtrack might give this whole hack a even more creepy vibe 😭 orignal nsmb music feels off a bit for this kind of stuff but maybe im brainwashed with sonic.exe and mario.exe type of shits with earrape music and dead characters

[true bobcat]

That's fair

Ultimately the goal for this mod was for a challenge

I only leaned into horror because of how clickbait it is

[snow portal]

Far and away outdoing an Ordinary Sonic ROM Hack

[true bobcat]

Lol thanks

[true bobcat]

Got to play MvsL for this mod on actual DS and got some really good feedback

Some things I’ll be updating:

• The player with the chaser (while in spooky mode) will be given a slight speed boost to help close the gap (the speed difference will be a little more than how much faster a normal player is than a player with a blue shell is)
• Dying to the chaser will change the chaser’s target to the other player (helps to prevent stalling from being the ideal strat)

Oh and if I can figure out how to do it, the player who won the previous match will be the one who starts with the chaser (instead of it being random each game)

Minor QoL as well: there will be a visual indicator of who currently has the chaser over the player while not in spooky mode

[ebon terrace]

Spoopy mode

When that update releases, I'm jumpscaring my dad

[true bobcat]

Lmao

Also figured out the random no music bug finally

Starman ending clears the music for some reason

[ebon terrace]

Oh that was a bug?

[true bobcat]

In MvsL, getting a star wouldn’t play the Starman theme

And when it ends you just never hear music again

Even when not in soooky mode

[ebon terrace]

I thouth it was intentional, so the people thougth his cartridge was cursed or smth

[old salmon]

Ndy when you will add a jumpscare for the ordinary bro's

[ebon terrace]

Go to sleep

[true bobcat]

Right now the intended behavior is music cuts while in spooky mode

I don’t modify the music in MvsL tho

So the music things is just 100% a bug in MvsL lmao

[ebon terrace]

Go to sleep or I'll do this

[old salmon]

NO PLEASE 😨

[ebon terrace]

Nah don't worry, that won't kill you

[true bobcat]

One day ™️

I’ll probably release two versions if I do that

Just so people (like me) who get pretty spooked by jumpscares can play without worrying

Granted it’s pretty obvious when it would happen but still :p

[old salmon]

Yea true, i usually dont get scared by jumpscares, unless its really unexcpected

[old salmon]

Cant wait for the ordinary luigi bossfight 🔥

[true bobcat]

I might try making the chaser a model again

It does look cooler than pre rendered

[old salmon]

Yo that would be cool, but ig it can have some problems with levels with a lot of models

[true bobcat]

It only had an issue with boss rooms

I’ll probably just use the pre-rendered version for boss rooms

Then a model for the rest

[old salmon]

Like some polygons fading from screen (even though it dont usually happens in vanilla smb enemied, Just with cystom models

[old salmon]

Yo thats smart

[mental cipher]

NOOOOOOOO

ONE VERSION ONLY

THAT'S WAY MORE FUN

atleast as a selectable option in settings or something like that if possible

[austere scaffold]

what difference does it make 😭

[quick matrix]

🎉 Level Up! 🎉

Congratulations @austere scaffold! You've reached a new level!

New Role

You've been given the <@&1093830095866708048> role!

Total EXP

1,000

Keep up the great work!

[iron nexus]

lol

the comedic timing of that

[mental cipher]

idk, that depends how it would be shown in the download page ;p

[true bobcat]

I’ll keep it vague

“Less spooky” or something like that

[true bobcat]

One day I’ll mess with the settings

If that’s not too difficult I’ll do that

Maybe hijack the audio settings toggle

I would use the AB/XY one but I know I’ll get that one guy pestering me about how they always did A jump B run and blah blah blah

[true bobcat]

A sneak peak of the new chaser music (ignore the lack of any other in game sounds atm :p)

Shoutout to @nimble pond for the arrangement

(The chaser timer will be tuned to match the music better)

[mental cipher]

-# fuck i pinged now lmao

tbh it's not scary enough

[true bobcat]

Lmao

It builds tension

Which is all I wanted it to do

[mental cipher]

It's better anyway than without lmao

but i'd preffer something scary 😈

-# like jpg

[old salmon]

OOO COOL

[hot wadi]

cool but it does kinda take the creepiness away

I'd go for something more minimalist

[old salmon]

Yea i kinda agree, still the song is fire

But it takes alway the creepy feeling like u said

[true bobcat]

Honestly I don’t mind losing creepy factor but I might consider a different song

Probably gonna roll with this one tho

[nimble pond]

Yeah, I did not make this song for nothing 🔫

[fringe hornet]

honestly the creepyest effect it produces is still there: gameplay. imo gameplay can become very scary when you get almost caught (in videogames in general)

think about the Warden in Minecraft for example. it doesn't look nor sound very scary in itself (for example if you go in creative mode), but what is scary about it is that it can suddenly come at you and kill you

kinda the same here imo

i also like the music itself

[austere scaffold]

if you want to make it more creepy-like (altho I still think it’s fine)
maybe reduce a bit how ‘upbeat’ the song sounds
use instruments from the spooky and castle themes?
potentially make the music’s volume lower at the start and higher the closer the chaser is to you