NSMB: The Rainbow Quest

[rapid abyss]

-# imo, you should give those lanterns bigger contrast, they look very pale comparing to the rest of tilesets 😔

[lapis bough]

they were already there when making the tileset

and now?

i think it's enough stuff now

[lone jetty]

Awesone

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[vague breach]

thank youuu ^-^

[junior junco]

Are you planing on adding cannon balls? I see a cannon ball launcher there

[lapis bough]

kinda?

i mean i thought about using bullet bills with rotation using the actor spawner which would pretty much work the same way

[rapid abyss]

Yeah, just saying

[lapis bough]

well i adjusted them in the last image anyway

[vague breach]

^

[wary frost]

uhh yep, that's meeeee

[lone jetty]

Yooo

[lapis bough]

wrong level

[zinc rivet]

When you said about the hack i checked ur profile and saw ur are friend with bester and cloudie so i knew you're also working on this

[lapis bough]

i meant 2-Tower which is probably gonna be the airship level

[wary frost]

yoooooo

well

[lone jetty]

So, are y'all three gonna work on the hack together?

[lapis bough]

yea pretty much

[wary frost]

tempted to spoil the gimmicks for 4-Tower

i'm the one who got the idea for one of the gimmicks

and i wanna work on this level so haaaardddd

but like

we/they have to make a custom tileset for it

and make the other levels

and uh

i was talking and everyone disappeared??

[lapis bough]

uh yea this happens i guess

[wary frost]

oh

well

[zinc rivet]

Ngl this mod will be the biggest thing ever

[lapis bough]

probably not 😭

[lone jetty]

Is there anything in specific you have planned for the tileset?

[lapis bough]

i mean like, there are other great mods and such, i doubt this one will be "better than the others" or anything

and i dont like comparisons

[wary frost]

uh

surprise surprise...

if i say it i will spoil the level's theme

and uh

that's not very very nice 😦

DISCORD EMOJI REPLACEMENT CRAP

[zinc rivet]

Not comparing but, i think itll be smth like endless earth or newer ds was some years ago (smth very popular) and this mod have some unique stuff

[lapis bough]

maybe

thanks

[zinc rivet]

Yw ^^

[lapis bough]

but i think the current mods in development are just as impressive

[blissful pulsar]

ditto

i only wouldnt mind if it was someone comparing my work to another work of mine

[lone jetty]

Yeah, I would seriously stop comparing mods, this is not a competition of who makes the best mod, all the mods in this server are good

[lapis bough]

at some point i was constantly comparing stuff and my own works compared to others', and this was kinda driving me crazy (it was in gd tho)

[lone jetty]

And we all are trying our best

[lapis bough]

yes

[lapis bough]

then i stopped and felt better

-# then i'm slowly stopping gd as well... (losing interest)

[blissful pulsar]

this hack is very nostalgic

[lapis bough]

how so?

[zinc rivet]

Same when i was making a smw hack, i even canceled it because i was thinking it was not good, i thoug my level desing was bad comparando to other smw hacks, and when i started my nsmb mod it almsot happened, but then i stopped comparing stuff and i feel more happy with my mod, and also feel it looks great and not bad

Ill probably restart this smw hack at some point later

[lapis bough]

yea comparing yourself to others tends to be bad and demotivating. i think you should only compare to yourself and stuff you made

[zinc rivet]

My favourite stuff about this smw mod was a asm i found on central, that a allowed u to make paralax bgs

[lapis bough]

oh that's cool

[wary frost]

idk what to say so i will just drop one random idea

[blissful pulsar]

idk why but this hack just kinda gives me vibes of when the ds community was rather active within like the 2012-2018 years, but at the same time it might be in general thanks to the decent progress the community has made lately

[wary frost]

about airships i got the idea of maybe making a section (or a whole level) with mini-airships like the world 8 airship from smb3

[lapis bough]

why are you spoiling ideas 😭

[wary frost]

why not?

and i just dont know what to sayyy 😭

[zinc rivet]

One thing i loved about smw is that you could use a program to create custom code, so if i wanted like uhhhhh... a torpedo ted.... that folows the player... and explodes... and have wings? (Bad idea ik) i could just select some options in the program and done, i have my custom code

[lapis bough]

oh that's pretty cool

[lapis bough]

oh, interesting. honestly glad that it gives this vibe because i like that era too

[zinc rivet]

Thats what i said some days ago, it gives me this feeling too

[lapis bough]

i dont even know HOW it gives that feeling

😭

[zinc rivet]

It remembers me when i was comming back from school and looking on hd (with 8 to 9 years) searching for hacks on hd in my dad's computer

Like, 8/7 years ago

[lapis bough]

i used to lurk on nsmbhd 6-7 years ago as well

[zinc rivet]

Idk why but there was a hack that scared the hell out of me

[lapis bough]

which one 😭

[zinc rivet]

Lemme find it

[blissful pulsar]

tbf they don’t really say too much either since they don’t wanna spoil the hack themselves and also need the time and such to make progress so .p

[vague breach]

hmm yeaa progress is being slow ;-;

[wary frost]

i can be impulsive sometimes 😭

i dont really want to spoil stuff either but sometimes i still do 😭

[blissful pulsar]

tbh kinda relatable.. z

best u can do is add spoiler tag to it lol

[zinc rivet]

I didn't knew it was ancient, but i saw it in 2018 and never againm

[sour kettle]

scary haunted mansion

[junior junco]

Oh yeah, I think I came up with a easy way to do those scalable track lifts bester

I’m thinking that I can get extended one of the normal moving platforms and add a setting to add track control like I did with the burners

Ima give it a try after work if I have time

[junior junco]

I had a similar idea but I was planing on making an airship actor that you can control depending on where you stand on it

[junior junco]

I constantly do that lol

And it’s a fact that my levels are ass, look at the last b side I uploaded, I forgot to decorate half the level

[lapis bough]

ohh nice

[lapis bough]

it's a bad thing to do

[sour kettle]

me when i lie me when i perpetuate falsehoods>

[lone jetty]

I agree with DM, we need to ban self deprication in this server

[zinc rivet]

Your levels are NOT bad

[junior junco]

Well I’ll be fine as it’s not self deprivation if it’s true

[lone jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-2521750817698326290

[sour kettle]

tou cant say its a fact that your levels are ass since thats inherently a subjective claim. its ocymoronic and textbook self deprication

mods ban her

[lone jetty]

Lmfao

[junior junco]

Well then, according to an angry commenter my hack is shit

:3

[lone jetty]

Your angry commenter's opinion doesn't count, your hack is not shit, because I say so and because my opinion is 100% objective and irrefutable, end of the story

[lapis bough]

and y'all are polluting the thread

(it's alright lol)

[junior junco]

I couldnt get the scaleable lifts to work

ill try it again tmr probably

[lapis bough]

dang, good luck with it 🍀

[junior junco]

I might try using flimsy lifts instead

The hey could also probably do the job and probably have more available sprite data

[lapis bough]

okay

honestly i feel bad for the other day now, i probably shouldn't have acted like that. i'm genuinely sorry if this pressured you into doing it or anything

it also wasn't meant to be targeted specifically at you, but i still feel bad about it

also feel free to take your time, we're not going to work on the level that needs it right away

[junior junco]

ok, I think I found my problem

I thing im screwing up extending the actor since its part of stageEntity and not stageEntity3DAnm

I thought what I was doing would work but its not

following the same logic that all the other actors I have made usable on tracks, this should of worked but the lifts just despawn when the level is loaded

class flimsyLiftExt : public StageEntity {
public:
    u8 flimsyLift[0x4c0 /* sizeof(flimsyLift) */ - sizeof(StageEntity)];
    LineController lineCtrl;
};

ncp_jump(0x0217e084, 89)
NTR_NAKED static void flimsyLift_ctorSize_hook() {
    asm(R"(
        LDR     R0, =%0
        B       0x0217e084 + 4
    )" : : "i" (sizeof(flimsyLiftExt)) : "r0");
}

ncp_hook(0x0217de60, 89)
void flimsyLiftOnCreateHook(flimsyLiftExt* self){
    u8 speed = self->settings>>16 & 0xf;
    if(self->settings>>16 & 0x1){
        Vec2 pos;
        pos = Vec2(self->position.x,self->position.y);
        self->lineCtrl.create(pos,0.5fx*speed);
        self->lineCtrl.start();
    }
}

ncp_hook(0x0217df78, 89)
void flimsyLiftOnUpdateHook(flimsyLiftExt* self){
    if(self->settings>>16 & 0x1){
        Vec2 pos;
        self->lineCtrl.update();
        pos = self->lineCtrl.getPosition();
        self->position.x = pos.x;
        self->position.y = pos.y;
    }  
}```

so this doesnt work and I dont know what the problem is yet

[lapis bough]

dang

good luck

[zinc rivet]

His opnions is like his familly, dont exist

Your mod is good!!

And i love the levels u make, they looks fun asf

[lapis bough]

uhh i feel like the anchor is too small tho...

and i dont really really feel like making it again... but i have to

[sour kettle]

could use a placeholder if you needed to for the time being

[lone jetty]

Yeah, you still seem to have some remaining space, if anything you could just redo it again later

And I don't really see anything wrong with the anchor, looks fine to me, but I'd probably need to see it in game to judge better

[lapis bough]

i guess

tho it's better if i redo it now because it's already open in the image editor with all the layers and such

[lone jetty]

As you wish

[vague breach]

Screenshot dump!! ^-^

hmm well... there has been no progress for a while...

but i can at least show some screenshots of things we still didn't show!! ^-^

[zinc rivet]

YESSSS UPDATESSSS

W3 is the best theme so far imo

[vague breach]

there has been barely any progress during the past few weeks ;-;

[zinc rivet]

NOWAY RHE 1-A AND CANNON LEVEL

[lone jetty]

So much peak

[zinc rivet]

Im excited to play this mod ngl

[vague breach]

thank youu ^-^

[zinc rivet]

Frrrr

W5 OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

I WANT TO PLAY THIIISSSSS 😭

[vague breach]

-# i said "screenshot dump" but i definitely didnt take the screenshots rn... ;-;

[vague breach]

there are like only 10 finished levels...

[zinc rivet]

Everytime i see stuff from this mod more i want to play it ngl

[zinc rivet]

Yet this looks so great

[vague breach]

thxx!! ^-^

we have a problem with W4-1 area 2 though...

[zinc rivet]

Wich one?

[vague breach]

there's no music at all...

[zinc rivet]

Ngl, of all the mods being developed imo this one is the best one, the other mods are really great, but this one for me is the best one

[zinc rivet]

Oh

The music is selected in the view? Because sometimes even if you select when you close the area they go back to 0

Idk why this happens

[vague breach]

yes it is

[zinc rivet]

Already happened to me

[zinc rivet]

I see

[vague breach]

hmm i think it's because we used the area overflow thing

[blissful pulsar]

oh my god this is absolutely fantastic, really a great surprise since yall havent been active for about 2 weeks, incredible job!!!!

[vague breach]

thxx!! ^-^

[blissful pulsar]

same

[zinc rivet]

Ohh maybe its the issue

[lone jetty]

Sometimes the area overflow bug can cause the music to be completely muted, I have no idea why this happens tho

[vague breach]

we also still need a code hack for animated waterfalls...

hmm the problem is that w4-1 does not have any area 2

[blissful pulsar]

i can make it rq
tho i've been refrained from doing so since bester said that they want to do it themselves (learn, i mean)

[vague breach]

hmm yeaa

[sour kettle]

looks lovely

good to know the hacks still being worked on

[lapis bough]

ehh it's been a while without actual progress

[lapis bough]

hmm i wonder why image 3 is in spoiler hmmmmm...

[lapis bough]

really nobody guessed? 😭

[lone jetty]

Switch palace

[lapis bough]

wait that could be a good idea

-# ||if it wasn't the idea already||

[lone jetty]

I thought you always wanted to do it since I saw you mentioned that multiple times from a beginning

[lapis bough]

well yes

[lapis bough]

^

[blissful pulsar]

we need more nsmb hacks that turn towers/cannons into other stuff

[lone jetty]

Well, mine turns towers into castles and cannons into kaizo speedrun levels

[lapis bough]

2- most likely turning into 2-⚓️

[sour kettle]

outta curiosity howdya plan on implementing it

[lapis bough]

what do you mean by that?

implementing it technically (code for example)? gameplay-wise?

[lapis bough]

For 3-3 (and other "Waterfalls Cliffs" levels), which song do you think should be used?
https://youtu.be/8y2OPEShyrQ?si=hEdACBPDKqDcLgS2
https://youtu.be/yXc0MBu4pyM?si=dAavna1chruTvadb

💨 - Cavi Cape
💧 - Fossil Falls

[lone jetty]

Fossil Falls could fit better for overworld levels, Cavi Cape could fit better for half overworld, half underground levels

Or some sorta ruins level

[lapis bough]

then probably for world 2?

[lone jetty]

Maybe, I moreso meant overgrown ruins

[lapis bough]

oh

[zinc rivet]

Fóssil falls

[lapis bough]

well that would probably appear in world 4 but those levels (at least one) has a specific song planned

[lone jetty]

In that case I'd say Fossil Falls

[lapis bough]

okay

well that means we don't have to change anything in the rom, since it's the way it currently is

[sour kettle]

codewise

[lapis bough]

well i'd say with custom code, which would create a new actor with custom behavior (animation, showing textbox, ending level). when the "cannon" levels are marked as "completed" by the savefile, the graphics and tile behavior of some tiles in the jyotyu tileset should change (one tile per switch)

[sour kettle]

gotcha

[lapis bough]

would y'all think that "coin rings" (like sm3dw and odyssey) would be a nice little addition or would be kinda useless? also it would most likely only be used for some levels (like slide/ride levels and bonus rooms for example)

wait a slide level is a pretty cool level idea

[zinc rivet]

Cool addition

[lapis bough]

okay then!

might add it

also it doesnt require much code apart from the red ring texture change code (which is already applied to the hack) and maybe the actor spawner

also idk how to make coins spawn with a delay between each. does it need multiple event ids?

[zinc rivet]

Theres a sprite that spawn coins when the event is activated

98 iirc

Its coin spawner the name

[lapis bough]

yes tho i dont think it creates a delay between each coin

i tried multiple times and couldn't manage to do so

[lone jetty]

You can use the event controller sequencer (actor 286) to spawn coins with delay

[lapis bough]

okay then

thanks

[lapis bough]

where squigga

[maiden leaf]

shit

[lone jetty]

Tomorrow

[zinc rivet]

Here -->

[cursive sorrel]

Why haven't you done anything, dumbass

Stop making promises you can't keep

[maiden leaf]

[zinc rivet]

But you dont even know reverse engeneering, if he wasn't helping with the project it wouldn't hipothetically exist

[maiden leaf]

Very true, jpg

[cursive sorrel]

Project?

It doesn't exist

[zinc rivet]

Hipothetically

[lapis bough]

Can someone please rename it to "NSMB. The Rainbow Quest"?

[junior junco]

NSMB. The Rainbow Quest

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[blissful pulsar]

woag

[lapis bough]

yea it was fast lol

[rapid abyss]

i read rainbow cliffs 😭

it's a main hub world from ty the tasmanian tiger

-# my top 2 fav series on ps2

[blissful pulsar]

rainbow cliffs world for this hack

[rapid abyss]

I WOULD WORK ON IT

i love this game overall

[blissful pulsar]

tbh the new name could make up some creativity on the world themes lol
think of like
Crimson Forest (red)
Golden Plains (orange-yellow-ish?)
Radioactive Factory (green)
Frozen Farland (light-blue)
Cobalt Cove (blue)
Nebulous Space (purple)

[rapid abyss]

i like how it is unique

people need to start being more creative rather stay in the same styles and do 100th time the same thing which was done before

[blissful pulsar]

yeah as much as I love autumn themes I have to admit it’s been overused at this point 😭

[blissful pulsar]

also same

[lapis bough]

maybe

i mean we have violet forest so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

also i had an idea but i'm not sure it'll work: alternate music themes for the "alt" levels mode

[zinc rivet]

Any updates? Yall plan releasing a demo?

[lapis bough]

not sure if it would work tho because there's probably gonna be 1 or 2 themes with it

[lapis bough]

importing 2 songs

nothing else yet

[junior junco]

It’s also hard to do that because the songs cap at 128iirc

After that sseqs don’t play

[lapis bough]

yea true

[junior junco]

Wait it’s 127

It’s a unsigned char I think

I might be able to change the data type and remove the limit

[lapis bough]

yea that's what i was thinking too

[lapis bough]

okay then

[lone jetty]

Imo, it's honestly really hard to think of any new and unique ideas in a such limited game like this, most creative ideas have been already used atp

Or maybe it's just me and I need to play more games to get some new ideas

[lone jetty]

If you do so, please let me know, infinite SSEQ's would be a dream for me 🙏

[junior junco]

there is smth I do want to test, someone should try putting a sseq in slot 128 and setting the seqID to -128 to see if it overflows

I dont think that would work though

[rapid abyss]

look up the internet, play random ps2/1 games or any other previous console, get inspired

B)

[junior junco]

thats not a problem anymore

[lapis bough]

you tried this?

[junior junco]

this

[lapis bough]

tried some time ago to replace 2 sfx (did it again yesterday because they were too quiet): the "jump" and the "enemy stomp" sfx

the jump sfx is the one from smbwonder, and the stomp sfx is the one from smas

the jump sfx works fine (but seems to end too quickly?). the stomp sfx seems to be cut and is too quiet

[zinc rivet]

Send me the wonder jump

[lapis bough]

also added/replaced 2 songs: the P-Switch from smw (which i requested to The NSMB2 DS guy) and added the Cavi Cape theme (which is probably gonna be used for desert levels, idk yet)

First one is for the mini mushroom, second one is for the normal size and mega mushroom (it'll play with the right pitch in-game)

In the sound_data.sdat file, in Wave Archives, open [67] WAVE_VS_COMMON_PLAYER_BASE_SE and replace Wave 23 with the "03 _a" file, and Wave 24 with the "02 _a" file

also it was downloaded from youtube and seem to be recorded in-game

[zinc rivet]

Send the 3_A again since discord is only downloading 2A

[lapis bough]

does it work jpg?

[vague breach]

we finished 4-1!! ^-^

and playtested

the music still doesn't play in the underground section though ;-;

also we probably need another music as the forest theme

[vague breach]

hmm we really need a fix for that

is there a code hack for it?

or can someone make one please?

[lapis bough]

i've been thinking about changing the banner to make the background be a block, just like the original banner

left: current
right: block version test

[zinc rivet]

I kinda like the rainbow star

Oh now i got it

Yea new one is better

[lapis bough]

the block version?

[zinc rivet]

Yea

[lapis bough]

okay

i'll just leave reactions to let people vote tho

[zinc rivet]

Im considering changing mine to smth like that

[lapis bough]

right one it is then!

might also add a shadow below the star later

[blissful pulsar]

omg yeah shadow would be tops

could make it look less ‘flat’

[lapis bough]

like this

WAIT NO I FORGOT ONE PIXEL

[junior junco]

On the bottom bit of the star?

[lapis bough]

yes

here

[lapis bough]

i could have sworn that nslu had its own, separate forest tileset

tho it was probably just the weird roots

which my brain somehow misremembered into a very good-looking, but difficult to tile, forest tileset, with deco that wasn't on the original nsmbu one

i would have used it for a portion of a tileset, but guess we'll have to make our own

[lapis bough]

oh well, actually...
https://nsmbhd.net/post/46369/

[lapis bough]

oh btw the airship tileset graphics were done a few days ago

just need to tile them... definitely wont be long and a pain

there's another tileset that i/we have to make (and Ninetie90s is impatient to make a level with it once it'll be made)

[lapis bough]

oh and, some of you noticed but i made a new post on the hack's thread on nsmbhd. gonna update the main post of the thread as well later, when the new hack logo will be made

[wary frost]

uhh

we discussed some level gimmick ideas, especially for world 8

and found some interesting ones

when i dont have ideas i like to look at the older mario games like smb3 and smw

[zinc rivet]

Smb3 and Smw is a gold mine for ideas

[wary frost]

yesssss!!!!

wait i just got a new one

[zinc rivet]

I take a lot of ideas from those lol, it have cool stuff

[wary frost]

agreed

tried finding ideas for world 8 specifically because we need 16 levels, at least 1 from each world, to make the demo

not sure how many levels it will have tho, i should ask Bester for this

[wary frost]

yeeeeeeeee

4-Tower, inspired from another game, not gonna say more for now

[lapis bough]

newerds fixed that bug somehow, but using the score graphics equivalent from newerds makes the game crash for some reason (probably because the code affects another overlay than the original one)

[lone jetty]

I didn't know about the level intro bug, and I was thinking on implementing it in my hack

[blissful pulsar]

ditto 😭

i might aswell just not use it then (the intro code hack), or do some more palette finnicky for the graphics but eh

[lone jetty]

There's also a version of the level intros that doesn't let you change character, but I think it hasn't been converted

The only converted version available is the one that lets you change character

[zinc rivet]

I have that one

[junior junco]

whats the bug with the level intros?

[lone jetty]

^

[zinc rivet]

It dont change the pallete to green when you select luigi

[junior junco]

[junior junco]

I didnt even notice that lol

it doesnt really matter to me since im replacing that whole system anyways

[lone jetty]

Could you send it?

[junior junco]

I can look into it after school today

just ping me in like eight hours

I imagine the palette file is loaded before the level intro scene and I just need to reload it

[lone jetty]

In eight hours I will probably be sleeping, lmao

[blissful pulsar]

ditto

unless i stay awake till 2:40 am

[junior junco]

skill issue, live in australia

[junior junco]

its basically the same you just need to make sure you dont forget your gravity harness if you are not a pro so you dont fall into the sky

[junior junco]

why do you spam images in every post lol

[zinc rivet]

What

[blissful pulsar]

u snet an image 😭

sent*

[zinc rivet]

OH

[lone jetty]

JPG try not to spam screenshots of your own hack challenge (ultra impossible challenge)

[zinc rivet]

That was not on purps so thats not fair

Purpose*

[lone jetty]

Man, I really wanna use this in my hack, but I don't understand this 😭

Might need to ask for help when editing the code

-# Also, we're polluting Bester's thread

[zinc rivet]

Ops

[lapis bough]

you can pretty easily remove the character change part of the code. jpg64 did it

[lapis bough]

didn't notice 😭

[lone jetty]

Lmao

[lapis bough]

i saw jpg64's screenshots and i assumed it was probably the sakura smb thread or smth

i was checking every unread thread one by one

[lone jetty]

There are a bunch of hack threads now and most of them have been renamed, it's easy to get confused about which hack is which, lmao

[lapis bough]

it's mostly me forgetting which one i clicked one tbh

they're also always in a specific order so i know which one is which

[lone jetty]

Eight hours exactly 😁

[blissful pulsar]

IM AWAKE TOO 😭

[blissful pulsar]

1 minute off 💪

[junior junco]

and I was sleeping lol

[lapis bough]

kinda wanna make progress today

but idk what

we should really work on world 8 too

[zinc rivet]

Bester what about doing the worldmap icons?

[lapis bough]

i guess

[zinc rivet]

I would like to see w6 and other world icons on your mod

[lapis bough]

the w6 icon is already done

[zinc rivet]

Ooooo

How it is

[lapis bough]

it was in earlier screenshots...

[zinc rivet]

HOW I DIDN'T SAW IT 😭

[lapis bough]

😭

[lapis bough]

now that we have all the world themes planned i guess it's possible to do

some of the existing icons might also need some adjustments

[zinc rivet]

Oh wait nvm i already saw it

Idk how i forgot it 😭

[zinc rivet]

Yea

Ngl im super curious to see w3 one

[lapis bough]

unfortunately there are A LOT of custom tilesets that i/we have to make before working on custom levels

[zinc rivet]

I see

But ngl even if that mod takes like 5 years or more to be released, it will stay being my favourite ngl

[lapis bough]

wow thanks

[zinc rivet]

Its super colorfull, the levels seens super fun to play, and it have cool and creative world themes, ik theyre take from original themes but yall somehow did it so they looks like brand new themes, and i really liked it ngl

[zinc rivet]

Yw ^^

[lapis bough]

however there are some level themes that we can work on without making a new tileset:

• Silhouette
• Beach
• Waterfall cliffs
• Purple forest
• Crystal mine
• City
• Regular Castle
• Regular Tower

except that... i don't really feel like working on them for now 😭

[zinc rivet]

The silhouete ones imo are the best levels to make tilesets

They save up a lot of space, and yet dont need so much details

[lapis bough]

yea true tilesets with them can be super optimized

i added stuff for 2 different themes (beach and grassland) + background walls, yet there's still space

tho that's also why there should be only one silhouette tileset in the rom (to leave slots for the others)

[zinc rivet]

Yea true

[lapis bough]

also gotta edit the desert tileset

because i wanna add most elements from Jouner's desert tileset

(hopefully i wont have to retile everything in 2-3)

also i've been thinking about moving 2-3 to 2-2, and remove the secret exit. the new 2-3 would need to have a secret exit

but idk

i should probably think about it with the others (Cloudie64 and Ninetie90s)

[lapis bough]

i kinda wanna change the sandstone blocks

replacing them with more ruins-looking ones, maybe with symbols on it

but idk which ones

[sour kettle]

what do the blocks look like atm

unless you mean those blocks from the vanilla desert tileset

[lapis bough]

the ones from the vanilla game but also with color variations

[sour kettle]

ah gotcha

[lapis bough]

maybe the ones Ztardust uses for the temple levels but i feel like that'd be stealing

so maybe not

i could also use the tiles from the nsmbwii final boss tileset

but idk if that wouldn't cause a style clash (ds and wii)

[zinc rivet]

Tbh its not a problem

If its pleasant to the eyes

Its alright

[lapis bough]

i guess

[lone jetty]

It's not really stealing since the tileset wasn't even made by me in the first place, lol

You can alternatively use those ruin blocks from the desert tileset from NSMBU

[lapis bough]

yea but i also meant stealing the idea, and also because it's one of the only non-ported tileset in your hack from what you said

[lone jetty]

As I said, you could try using these blocks

They're 20x20, so you might need to adapt them to the NSMBDS resolution

Might also need to optimize the tileset you're adding them in, since these blocks seem to take a lot of space

[lapis bough]

maybe

for now i'll probably try the nsmbwii final boss ones tho

[lapis bough]

do you think that a level (in w8) which uses "P-Switch bridges" (coins that turn into brick blocks to form a bridge to go through the level) as one of the main gimmick could be a good idea or not?

[junior junco]

There wqs a good level in the story mode of Mario maker 3ds that was like that

Could work

[lapis bough]

okay then

this is actually where the level idea comes from (a dream i had)

wait the second half also doesn't sound that bad (the cloud section)

[zinc rivet]

The shuriken acorn powerup from ssmb also came from a dream

And on the dream i had it was identical on how it is in ssmb

[lapis bough]

oh WOW

[rapid abyss]

yesterday i had a dream that i get a good life

-# my next few years will be a hell for me btw

[junior junco]

when u find out that all bossfights in new++ come from dreams

[blissful pulsar]

smb2 ahh game 😭🙏

[lone jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-sleeping-sleep-asleep-the-end-gif-9760967118592604949

[zinc rivet]

Bro 70% of the shit i do in ssmb i had a dream about it

[lapis bough]

NSMB. The Dreamy Quest

[lapis bough]

wait really??

you dream about it that often?

i probably had one single dream about the hack

[zinc rivet]

The crimson forest, black hole valley, desert + forest world, eerie, special world and a lot of more stuff

[zinc rivet]

Yea lol, i find it pretty funny because i sometimes do stuff because i thought of it before sleeping, or i had the idea from a dream

[rapid abyss]

Stealing this

My dreams are typically childhood traumas so yeah

[lapis bough]

holy... i hope you're alright

[rapid abyss]

It's okay i guess, i'm used to that

[lapis bough]

also we made more progress on the airship tileset today (tiling things in the map16) and slightly worked on the new desert tileset

it's not a lot of progress but it's at least this i guess

[rapid abyss]

Can i see how the desert one looks?? im curious since you said you're going to use mine

[zinc rivet]

I want to see it too!

[lapis bough]

for now it's just your tileset + added some of the nsmbwii final boss blocks as some sort of wii blocks (but they haven't been modified to match yet)

that's barely any progress tbh

then i guess we'll add the bg bricks and some extra deco like pillars

actually the pillars are already added

[rapid abyss]

I plan to someday make for my hack a desert theme which will have 2 parts (sunset and night with a city(?) ) so i might remake my tileset one day

i have alot of plans that i didn't write down in #the-basement lol

[lapis bough]

okay

[lapis bough]

the blocks will probably have some changes like color shifting

tho idk if that would make a style clash with the hand-drawn stuff or not

[rapid abyss]

If the recolor will be good it won't be a problem

or the object has weird shading then yeah

[lapis bough]

well okay then

[rapid abyss]

try to make colours similiar to the mushroom rock i made

maybe bit more brown

[lapis bough]

i'm not modifying the tileset rn

but i guess i'll try when i will

[lapis bough]

at the rate we're currently at, we literally have to make a tileset for each level that is being made...

[rapid abyss]

Can you show the tilesets?

[lapis bough]

making them ds-styled on top of that would take even more time

[lapis bough]

i cant atm

and probably not today

[blissful pulsar]

🤝

[lapis bough]

but i guess you can look at previous screenshots

[rapid abyss]

Why is that btw?

[lapis bough]

mainly because every new level we make has a new theme

which itself is due to:

• need to make different themes and ideas
• trying to make a bit of each theme (for example to get the first demo ready)
• a lot of themes and tilesets in the hack

[rapid abyss]

I will ahve the same problem in the future when i start my own hack and get into W3 (SMG themed, i plan to make from idk 15-18 tilesets for every level. They will be extended + have their non extended versions for subnohara lol)

[lapis bough]

15-18 tilesets for EACH LEVEL??

[rapid abyss]

Yes...

[lapis bough]

that's not enough tileset slots

[rapid abyss]

really?

gotta make my hack have 10 parts lololol

[lapis bough]

there are like 75 tileset slots, with a lot of duplicates that have shared assets

[rapid abyss]

Oh, then i think it shouldn't be a problem i guess?

There is most likely 30 tileset slots that i will be able to use

[lapis bough]

you said 15 tilesets PER LEVEL

even tho that's too much even for the areas (3 areas max in a level so 3 tilesets)

[blissful pulsar]

yeah 😭…

I think 3 a level is good

you only have up to 3 areas anyways

[lapis bough]

unless you use some obscure code hack made by meromero that is difficult to use and not even sure to work properly

[rapid abyss]

Oh, i have must write it weirdly, i mean't that the SMG w3 theme will have in total 18 tilesets around, each level will have atleast 2-3 tilesets

[lapis bough]

oh 😭

[blissful pulsar]

oh LMAO

[lapis bough]

that's why i asked "for each level" earlier

[blissful pulsar]

yea no I wasn’t believing the per level part anyways

[rapid abyss]

im not crazy to make 100 tilesets for one world 😭

[blissful pulsar]

interesting tho

[lapis bough]

usually when you say each, it means that one level will have this and that each of the other levels will have the same thing (so basically it would mean the same thing as "per level" here)

[blissful pulsar]

english with bester part 1

[rapid abyss]

My english is very bad recently 😭

Idk if this is because i don't feel good recently or i just startiing to forget it 😭

[lapis bough]

anyway, continuing what i was doing (not related to the hack)

[lapis bough]

the map16 of the airship tileset

honestly one of the least orginal tilesets of the hack

[blissful pulsar]

it might just be me but the bjr mouth looks a bit odd

[lapis bough]

still pretty happy of the custom stuff tho

[lapis bough]

yea idk why

[blissful pulsar]

I also think that the color is brighter in comparison to the bowser one?

nonetheless very cool!

[lapis bough]

i did calculate it to mirror it correctly in paint.net tho

for the color, forgot about that...

now gotta put this in objects which is kind of a pain...

[zinc rivet]

Nah ngl looks pretty original

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

tho tbh a lot of the stuff is literally just the nsmbu smm2 airship tileset

[zinc rivet]

WE HAD THE SAME IDEA ABOUT THE BULLEY BILL THING LMAO

Looks good ngl, yall did a good work

[lapis bough]

where

[lapis bough]

thanks again!

wait i just realized we don't have vertical cannons for the pipes...

[junior junco]

Use my new one if it feels to unoriginal

Well when I post it lol

[zinc rivet]

The box with a pipe and a skull

[lapis bough]

it'd be unoriginal to use someone else's tileset being also used in their hack

tho i really liked it

[lapis bough]

no i mean where in your hack? do you have a screenshot or something?

[lapis bough]

you stole the idea

[junior junco]

Ur promoting ur hack again

[zinc rivet]

Bullet bill thing, tho ngl im hyped to see your level with airship ngl

[zinc rivet]

He asked me to show it tho 😭

[lapis bough]

thanks! tho we still don't know which gimmicks to use for the first one

[zinc rivet]

You will Record a video with it when finishing?

[zinc rivet]

Use bullet bills

Its good for a first airship

And burners too

[lapis bough]

(bob-omb + another gimmick planned for the w8 one)

[lapis bough]

i guess burners on tracks could be a good thing to use here maybe

[junior junco]

I want to make an airship based on bomb spikes tbh

But i don’t have any airships left to make

[lapis bough]

wow you guessed the gimmick

for a second i thought i actually said it 😭

[lapis bough]

this means i'll have to edit the tileset once again...

😭

wouldn't be a hard thing if i didn't have to first edit it in paint.net, then separate the palettes, and compress each of them with nitro paint, before combining all the palettes in an image again, and importing this into nsmbe

also we got 2 (kinda 3?) tracks/music ideas for the hack

idk if i should send them or keep them as a surprise

like for example using this one as a space theme maybe??:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKM7DobHw3c

i'm sending this one specifically among the 3 because idk if we'd be allowed to use it

[zinc rivet]

Yup u can

[lapis bough]

yea i had seen that comment

[lone jetty]

And alpha used that song in two hacks so it doesn't matter I guess

[lapis bough]

tho i couldn't find the original song, so idk if it's the exact same midi from the original game or if it was adapted to nsmbds

[lapis bough]

well, guess we can then

do y'all think it could fit the space theme tho?

[zinc rivet]

Yup it does

[lapis bough]

okay then!

the 2 other ones are related to world 8. still not sure whether it'll have 2 or 3 themes tho (1 "outside" and 1-2 "underground" themes)

because like there could be 2 kinds of "underground"

[lapis bough]

finished the tiling stuff

well, the object-ing stuff

[lapis bough]

freaking idiot ofc you couldn't just tell the thing, now i'm stuck and can't find that tutorial on how to do it (because i literally don't know how to do it rn)

you know what i'll just say it

[zinc rivet]

What it is

[lapis bough]

basically remaking the ground poundable crates from airships, using the event controller to detect when the player ground pounds onto them

but the event controller doesn't seem to detect ground pounds for some reason? i'd have sworn that it did

(zone event controller)

[blissful pulsar]

as far as I can tell the players need to be fully inside the zone, not partially

or atleast I think so

[zinc rivet]

Yea

Iirc i did those crates once

But with barrels

On My old w3 train

[lapis bough]

but it doesnt detect the ground pound on the sprite??

[zinc rivet]

Weird

Make the player be fully inside the zone

[lapis bough]

no i mean

it doesn't have the setting for it at all

unless that requires a code hack or smth

[lapis bough]

uhh it probably doesn't...

[junior junco]

If you want I could make a crate actor

For u

[lapis bough]

well if you wish so

will you make it public?

[zinc rivet]

Could i have it too?

[lapis bough]

and would it be possible to change the size of the crates in the sprite settings?

[junior junco]

Yeah it would be

[lapis bough]

okay then

[zinc rivet]

Also whats 1648 in hex? Used google calculators and it didn't worked

[junior junco]

I’ll do 2x2, 4x4 and 2x4 and 4x2

I can literally copy the Ruby lift code

[lapis bough]

okay then!

[zinc rivet]

I put 670 but it is crappy

[lapis bough]

670

[zinc rivet]

It gave me w8 tree

Instead of triangle lift

[junior junco]

Just search 48295 in hex

[lapis bough]

did you add "- 131" after in the code? (if it's not there already)

[zinc rivet]

Nope, forgot it

[junior junco]

Can you send the graphics you want to use bester

[zinc rivet]

Just made it in decimal instead

[junior junco]

I’ma tey and get around to it when I get home from my school swim carnival

[zinc rivet]

(DIDN'T worked)

Ill move to my channel

[lapis bough]

too late, i turned off my computer and went to bed, sorry

tho i guess you could use placeholder graphics?

[junior junco]

Alright

[sour kettle]

you mean the tutorial pinet made on nsmbhd right

[junior junco]

Just relying so I can grab the graphic from here

[lapis bough]

there was both a tutorial and a video. but i found it again

[lapis bough]

i guess you can

[lone jetty]

Would be neat if it was made like this

• Actor: Wooden box
• Lenght:
• Height:
• ✅ Breakable
• ✅ Gets affected by gravity

[lapis bough]

yea maybe something like this

tho since it has only 4 possibilities for the size, i think that it'll probably have some slider to choose between 4 values

also i dont really see why they wouldn't be breakable

[junior junco]

I could do it like that, don’t know how to tackle the rendering though

I should be able to do it

[blissful pulsar]

metallic boxes, for example

[lapis bough]

oh yea

[blissful pulsar]

you could have breakable boxes with a metallic box on top that falls but isnt breakable

[junior junco]

Also, what sprite sets are u using for the level

I want to know what overlays I can compile too

[lapis bough]

nothing yet

but it should be part of airship levels

[lone jetty]

Maybe in the same sprite set as Bullet Bills?

[lapis bough]

i guess that could work

[blissful pulsar]

you'd have to divide all 9 parts i think

[junior junco]

Yeah

[blissful pulsar]

you can prob try using for (int) like this

for (int l = 0; l < length; l++) {
for (int h = 0; h < height; h++) {

// position offsets 
fx32 hrzOffset = 16.0fx * l;
fx32 vrtOffset = 16.0fx * h;
fx32 maxHrzOffset = 16.0fx * length;
fx32 maxVrtOffset = 16.0fx * height;

// drawing textures
topMiddle.draw(Vec3(position.x + hrzOffset, position.y + maxVrtOffset, position.z), scale);

}
}```

-# i used the same for the moving pipes cause i thought scale would make it act funky

[junior junco]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking g

[junior junco]

I havent had time to try coding this yet

[junior junco]

couldnt u just stretch the body and render the head of the pipe unscratched

[junior junco]

gonna try coding this now

ima reuse the tower block nsbtx for it I think

[junior junco]

mian logic done, now its just rendering amd collison size stuff

[junior junco]

whats going on here lol, the nsbtx tiled itself lmao

[cursive sorrel]

It seems like you don't understand how nsbtx works

The parts were simply extended, you can pick single pixels from the nsbtx or hole rows, columns etc.

You always pick coordinates from the texture and then tell how you want it to be placed in-game

Meaning you can rotate it etc.

[lapis bough]

nice!!

i feel like it'd be a lot asking if it could have particles as well, and make coins or a power up appear (you don't have to)

[zinc rivet]

Cool!! Will it be public? I would use it in some levels (sorry if im being a beggar 😭 )

[blissful pulsar]

ohhhh could you show where it is in the reference or such? that would be so useful for animated objects using nsbtx lol

[cursive sorrel]

It's not as easy as you think

literally

but check out g3imm.h

and the public nsbtx file by TheGameratorT might be helpful

[junior junco]

I made this render a 64x64 instead of a 16x16

That’s what i did

[cursive sorrel]

What, where did I do that?

[junior junco]

Typo

[cursive sorrel]

Oh I see

Well yeah it repeatedly pastes the the last column and row

Making it look like it's tiling

[lapis bough]

just a screenshot of what the tileset looks like in the editor

[lone jetty]

Looks great

[lapis bough]

thanks!

Cloudie's currently working on the tileset for 4-Tower

[lime lava]

Oo

[half vector]

Are there any 2x2 windows in this tileset?

[lapis bough]

no there arent

[cursive sorrel]

I like the hanging object whose name I don't know

[zinc rivet]

What are those floating actors

[lapis bough]

anchor?

[lapis bough]

event triggers, i tried to make the crates breakable with theses before asking here

(they don't work)

[cursive sorrel]

yes

[junior junco]

Hey Bester, im nearly done with those crates so I may as well ask if you want any extra things to be able to destroy them such as thwomps

I think im also gonna do broozers since more people need to start using them as airship ememys, they fit so well

[junior junco]

broozers dont want to work

[junior junco]

https://github.com/illythecat/New-PlusPlus-Super-Mario-Bros/tree/main/Source/actors/Crates here u go, there is definitely ways to optimize this code but this does the job, you might want to add more colours to the nsbtx tiles btw since they are currently only 16 colours each which looks ass in a lot of cases

here is the custom actor setup code from nsmbtr that I use

[lapis bough]

that could be cool!

[lapis bough]

one color was enough 😭

for the graphics i'll simply use those that i made for the tileset

[junior junco]

fair

you might want to bump the graphics up from a pal16 to some other format so they can be more detailed btw

[lapis bough]

okay

also Frosty and Ztardust suggested if it could be possible to have a unbreakable setting for them. did you make it? (it's okay if not, i don't really need it)

and does it play any sfx when destroyed?

[junior junco]

I didnt but thats easy to add

[junior junco]

not currently, but if you want to add one ill show you how, give me a min

[lapis bough]

okay

[junior junco]

just add it here

[lapis bough]

okay. and what sfx does it play?

[junior junco]

also, if you need help setting up the actor feel free to ask

[lapis bough]

alright

[junior junco]

just add that line of code and you can make it play whatever one you want

where I wrote id put you sfx id

[lapis bough]

okay

i'm guessing that for the id i can look at the actor spawner settings for example

[junior junco]

yeah

[lapis bough]

okay

another thing i would have liked would be the ability to make it spawn coins or a power up. tho i feel like that'd be asking for a lot at this point. the coins count easily be spawned using the vanilla event trigger actors + coin spawner sprite

unless the crate falls, that wouldn't work

[junior junco]

oh thats not hard

[lapis bough]

oh okay then

[junior junco]

oh yeah you can also just enter the path of the sfx btw , example(SeqArc::SAR_LARRY_BASE::SE_LARRY_1)

[lapis bough]

okay

[lapis bough]

so do you plan on adding it?

[junior junco]

yeah

ill try later tonight or my tmr

[lapis bough]

okay

[lapis bough]

Ninetie got the idea of using them in an underground w8 level

[junior junco]

you might also want to change the partical thats spanwed btw, this is what it currently does

[junior junco]

it didnt end up working, the broozers were not a cooperative actor

[lapis bough]

changing the id from the actor spawner once again?

[lapis bough]

well rip

tho in that level they would have been destroying mainly brick blocks i think

[junior junco]

the thing is they walked through the solid colliders than just teleported up them and destroyed the blocks about 5% of the time lol

[junior junco]

yeah, this id here

you can also change the foor loop to count up by two or smth if you want less particals

[lapis bough]

alr

what would i need to change exactly tho?

the "10"?

[junior junco]

to smth like this

it controls what parts of the block spawn partials when its destroyed essentially

[lapis bough]

okay

[lapis bough]

uhh EveryFileExplorer doesn't like to save the rom when i import a new nwav

and it hasn't reached 200mb (let alone the 256mb limit)

last time it happened too but idk how i solved it

[vague breach]

the tileset is turning out great!! can't wait to show it ^-^

(4-Tower tileset)

[zinc rivet]

Ooo

[vague breach]

but i'll let Ninetie90s build some start of level when it's done, and then she'll show a video of it

[zinc rivet]

Cool!

[vague breach]

i dont wanna reveal what it is for now until the small showcase video though

but i'll leave a very small hint that probably won't help at all

whoops i sent it on Bester's account instead of mine because their account was on the computer

mb i'll resend it with mine

hmm here

you can try guessing but i won't say if it's right or not

[zinc rivet]

OMG

[vague breach]

hm?

you think you have guessed?

[zinc rivet]

It seens a swamp tileset, so will there have a swamp level??

[vague breach]

maybe, maybe not

[zinc rivet]

Looks beautiful the colors ngl

[vague breach]

thxx ^-^

[zinc rivet]

OOOOOOOO NOWAY

[junior junco]

looks cool

[vague breach]

thx ^-^

[zinc rivet]

Rainbow heart emoji

[vague breach]

hmm i'll continue working on it now

[lapis bough]

yea it's looking really cool so far

[vague breach]

i think i'm done with the main graphics ^-^

next step is splitting the palettes but we'll do it later and i probably need Bester for that

[vague breach]

i kinda expected a reaction or something ;-;

[zinc rivet]

Cool!!

[blissful pulsar]

i didnt have much to say sorry 😭
nice though 💪

[lime lava]

Good job cloudie

I love your name

[vague breach]

thankss ^-^

[vague breach]

thxx ^-^

[vague breach]

thx ^-^

[vague breach]

hmm thx... >_<

[lime lava]

Lol sorry

[vague breach]

no it's okay

[vague breach]

also i mostly meant emoji reaction

Ninetie90s is currently tiling the tileset, we're helping her to do so

[lapis bough]

spent some time trying to figure out how the custom snake block stuff from meromero's snake block code hack worked

with the sprite settings and such

so here you go, add this in stageobjsettings_new.xml
-# (or you can modify the existing settings in stageobjsettings.xml like i stupidly did with some previous actors)

        <name>Snake Block</name>
        <flags known="1" complete="1" />
        <category id="2" />
        <notes>It destroys any solid tiles it moves over. The sprite uses the green block tile in jyotyu map16. Diagonal directions don't work properly.</notes>
        <files>/BG_*/*jyotyu*</files>
        <field id="41-44" type="value" name="Path ID" values="" notes="If you don't have a matching ID, the game will freeze." />
        <field id="37-40" type="list" name="Loads from" values="0=Level start,1=Midway point" notes="" />
        <field id="25-32" type="value" name="Starting node" values="" notes="" />
        <field id="17-20" type="list" name="Last node behaviour" values="0=Nothing (keeps shape),1=Falls apart (doesn't keep shape),2=Comes back and forth,3=Skyrockets (keeps shape),4=Falls apart (keeps shape),5=Loops" notes="Game will freeze if N4 mod 8 is 6. For 3 it skyrockets for 44 blocks and 7 pixels then disappears." />
        <field id="33-36" type="value" name="Length" values="3" notes="" />
        <field id="21-24" type="checkbox" name="Slower" values="1" notes="" />
        <field id="45-48" type="checkbox" name="Ice" values="2" notes="Makes the snake block iced" />
    </class>```

[junior junco]

nice

[lone jetty]

Oh man, you have no idea how much of a workload you saved me here, I'm gonna use this, it's very useful

I had to take a look at the misc patches thread every time I wanted to set snake blocks

[lapis bough]

woow lol

yea making those sprite settings things makes it a lot easier (and also a bit fun)

[junior junco]

i just have a few examples off screen or in another level that I copy and paste

[lapis bough]

(side note tho: please avoid calling me man, even if it's not said directly to me)

[lone jetty]

Sorry

[lapis bough]

its okay

[junior junco]

and I also just remember the settings for my actors so I dont bother with that stuff, I really should though as it makes it easier for others who use my stuff

[lapis bough]

i had to look at the code from nsmbhd AND how it was done in newerds to understand, then did some tests

also the 4-Tower tileset is fully done

tho Ninetie90s still has to make some start of level for it to be showcased

probably tomorrow

[lapis bough]

wait this breaks the "Last node behavior" setting

okay i fixed it and updated it

i'd highly recommend updating it

(same message but edited)

[junior junco]

did you end up compiling the crates btw?

[lapis bough]

not yet

doing this tomorrow because then i'd want to also set the file ids, test the crates, and change the textures which will take at least 1h

and it's 1 am already

[lapis bough]

i'm glad there has been a lot of progress during the past week

i kinda wanted to work on the animated waterfalls code hack, but i also have to import the crate code hack today and make all the related graphics, so idk if i'll have time

[lapis bough]

i'll have to retile the entire 2-3 after the new desert tileset gets done 😭

i guess we'll try to revamp/polish it at the same time

wait wouldn't it be better to have both a "desert' and a "desert temple" tilesets? the latter which is extended and has more temple-themed elements

tho i'm not sure what to add

apart maybe from a star statue to be placed on top of a pillar

and maybe torches but they aren't animated so idk

[lapis bough]

unless i use a code hack or smth

[lapis bough]

oh uh the tileset graphics currently look like this btw

[lime lava]

Hey i recognise that one

[upper apex]

isnt that one made by jouner

i think

[lapis bough]

yea the desert/sand stuff is made by jouner

[lime lava]

It's the squishy pillowy sand tileset

I wanna slep on it

[upper apex]

i dont i will get sand everywere

[rapid abyss]

now this tileset is 100 times better

hope I could improve it someday

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[vague breach]

thxx ^-^

i made some of the stuff in it too

[junior junco]

Nice, I can’t wait to see what you, cloudie and the rest of your team cook with that

[lapis bough]

Ninetie90s being called "the rest of the team" 😭

thanks tho!

[lapis bough]

tho tbf i could probably ask other people in the future, but not very likely

[lime lava]

lol y'all be workin in a team

i be having people calling me acoustic cuz i modify a mario game

[lapis bough]

forgot to say that some stuff will have color variations in different palettes

[lime lava]

Yummy

[blissful pulsar]

rainbow desert

[lapis bough]

how exactly does it use the enemy256 palette? the enemy256 file has 10 palettes inside of it

[zinc rivet]

Its the pallete 2 ans 3 of the enemy 256, you skip pallete 0 and 1

[lapis bough]

okay, thanks

i dont have time now tho so i'll do it later

[lapis bough]

okay so Cloudie and I made a little something

[vague breach]

yes ^-^

hereeee ^-^

[zinc rivet]

Good!!!

[vague breach]

i made the 1up graphics!!

[lapis bough]

i modified the already existing words to make them look better (mostly being able to put them on the same line or at least somewhat), and Cloudie made the 1up score graphic from scratch!

[lapis bough]

honestly it looks really good

[vague breach]

thank youuu ^-^

[lapis bough]

yw

[rapid abyss]

Really creative 1up

[vague breach]

thxx ^-^

[rapid abyss]

i plan to update the one i made for nsmbba and might get inspired by that ^^

[vague breach]

nice ^-^, glad you can get inspired by it!!

[blissful pulsar]

how did yall fit this in 32 pixels wide damn this looks sick lol

I love the 1up graphic

[junior junco]

much better than mine

[lone jetty]

The "1UP" graphic looks awesome

[vague breach]

thxxx!! ^-^

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

also unrelated but, i get an error when trying to patch this code hack

source\newitemtexture.cpp:2:1: error: 'asm_func' does not name a type
    2 | asm_func void item1() {asm(R"(
      | ^~~~~~~~
source\newitemtexture.cpp:11:1: error: 'asm_func' does not name a type
   11 | asm_func void item2() {asm(R"(
      | ^~~~~~~~
source\newitemtexture.cpp:19:1: error: 'asm_func' does not name a type
   19 | asm_func void RouletteBlock() {asm(R"(
      | ^~~~~~~~
Exit code: 1```

[junior junco]

remove asm_func

[lapis bough]

oh that's all i have to do?

[junior junco]

yeah

[lapis bough]

okay then

[junior junco]

I havent updated my template in a while

[blissful pulsar]

change asm_func for ''ncp_asmfunc''

that fixed it for me

[junior junco]

yeah you can also do that

[lapis bough]

okay

it works now, thanks!

[lapis bough]

which do you think is better? 1 or 2?

2 is more stylized but i'm afraid that it would be harder to read during gameplay

[rapid abyss]

It's not a big difference so don't worry about it

[lapis bough]

okay then

[rapid abyss]

You can still read "gameboy advance" screen on actual gba that is small too and wavy i think

[lapis bough]

thanks for helping me choose!

(both you and frosty)

[blissful pulsar]

dude yall are making me want to redo the score graphics and make the touch screen graphic too cause this looks so good 😭

-# the touch graphic is the one from newer

[lapis bough]

lmfaooo i wanted to do it because i saw you did it in your hack 😭

[lapis bough]

i kinda do the "Mario/Luigi Clear" graphics rn (because their palette is shared with the score graphics), but i'm really not sure about the design i should use

not even sure if it should be "Mario/Luigi Clear" or "Stage Clear", which font to use, which style to give it, which colors to use...

[lone jetty]

Maybe you could choose the same font as the one you used for the logo for consistency, you make both texts rainbow-ish (since they basically use the same palettes as the score) and you could add a message like "Awesome!" or "Congratulations!"

[lapis bough]

interesting

i'll say the initial idea i had btw: rainbow text with the logo font, like smb wonder, rainbow letters (because shared palette), and saying "Course Clear!" or "Mario/Luigi Clear!". and then not sure if there should be a trail or not for example

[lapis bough]

and this is pretty similar to the initial idea i had

[blissful pulsar]

u might have to squeeze it a lot if you're using course clear btw

mine barely fits and it just says ''Level Clear!'' 😭

tho i did extend it and it isnt squeezed so

[lapis bough]

only vertically then

[lone jetty]

Just scale down the font, lmao

[lapis bough]

this was an attempt i did before losing hope and asking here

it's a bit too thin (horizontally) imo tho

[lone jetty]

I love it, feels very "classic"

[lapis bough]

wow thanks!!

i could probably try to increase the font size a little, and give more spacing to the letters

[lone jetty]

Try not to stretch it too much or else it might be covered by the HUD, I believe you have the same HUD layout as me

[lapis bough]

or i could also use the "small" version of the font (in the nsmb logo, it's the "super" part)

[lapis bough]

yea pretty much

[blissful pulsar]

youu can try giving it a shadow if u want it to make more space while still being small

[lapis bough]

i guess i can try

[blissful pulsar]

or separate the letters more

[lapis bough]

i increased the font size and it fits better

tho just enough so i cant add a shadow :/

fun fact: in both SMB3 and SMB Wonder, it says "Course Clear!" (yes even with the exclamation mark)

[lapis bough]

ok so we did this

probably gona try to import it tomorrow

[blissful pulsar]

that is a SPARKLY rainbow (literally)

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

the gradient thingy was inspired by your "level clear" graphic

(and it took some time to manually do 😭)

i think we're taking "Rainbow" in The Rainbow Quest too seriously...

btw i imported new powerup graphics earlier today

they're not really impressive tho, mostly downscaled versions of the powerup graphics from the "panel" minigame from nsmbwii

tho i did try to manually redraw on top of them to make another, more hand-drawn-ish variation

i actually did that long ago, but finished it today

[zinc rivet]

SUPER LEAF?

SUPER LEAFFFFF

BEST HACK EVER

[lapis bough]

calm down it's just an easter egg lmao 😭

[zinc rivet]

Oh oki LMAO

Like the newer ds acorn

[lapis bough]

yeah, even the exact same position

[zinc rivet]

But ngl i cant wait to see the new item u said the hack is going to have

[lapis bough]

tho adding the super leaf is somewhat planned, if i manage to make the code for it someday (which idk if it ever happens)

[lapis bough]

i'm just gonna give a hint for this one: ||it appears in a certain 2-5 of a certain mario game, and so far it's the only game to have this powerup||

[zinc rivet]

Tell me in dm if i guess, mario land 2 carrot?

[lapis bough]

no it's not

another hint: ||it's a rare powerup and usually is used with a specific level design||

[zinc rivet]

Ok so: 2-5, onlymario game with the item, used for a specific level desing

[blissful pulsar]

oh my god i think i know

ok yes i do know 🥹

uhh bester check dms

[zinc rivet]

Say in DM if its it too, im curious 😭

[blissful pulsar]

nvm i dont know

[zinc rivet]

Frog suit?

[blissful pulsar]

i know a powerup that appears in a 2-5 of a mario game, but i dont think its that 😭

[lapis bough]

it did not appear in a 2-5 level

[blissful pulsar]

the function is too extreme

OH

[lapis bough]

say it

it could be it

[zinc rivet]

@blissful pulsar

Wich one it is?

-# why i pinged u? 😭 sorry im sleepy

[lapis bough]

Frosty guessed

i give another hint: ||it's from a game that released in 2013||

[blissful pulsar]

lmao that makes it a bit too obvious 😭

[lapis bough]

yes at this point might give easy hints

[patent obsidian]

is it any of these: https://www.mariowiki.com/Gold_Flower, https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Bell, https://www.mariowiki.com/Boomerang_Flower?

[lapis bough]

no it's not

[patent obsidian]

is it this? https://www.mariowiki.com/Double_Cherry

[blissful pulsar]

thats a lotta plants

[lapis bough]

hmmmmmm

[patent obsidian]

bro doesn't know

[cursive sorrel]

You do?

[lapis bough]

i know, i'm just adding suspense

[rapid abyss]

yeah, make them more fun i guess

[blissful pulsar]

are nsmbaba graphics actual score or words?

[rapid abyss]

mainly score

with cool colours and font that i draw

i love the one up but i feel like it can be better

[sour kettle]

outta curiosity how would it look without the dithering

[lapis bough]

i guess i'll show it later when i can

[lapis bough]

it looks like this

[lone jetty]

Hmmm, the one with dithering looks more vibrant and colorful while this one looks "clean"

[lapis bough]

yea i see what you mean

which one do y'all prefer though?

crap edited the wrong message :p

[lone jetty]

It's up to you, but I personally preffer the "clean" one

[lapis bough]

okay

[lone jetty]

You edited all your three messages :p

[lapis bough]

i personally prefer the one with the gradient thingy a bit more

definitely not because i spend 30 minutes manually doing the dithering

[lone jetty]

If anything you can always import both in case you change your mind

[lapis bough]

i guess

[rapid abyss]

could you send me it? i'd like to play around with it if you want

[lapis bough]

the gradient one or the dithering one?

also note: the colors are limited to a specific palette, the same palette as the one used for the score text we made earlier yesterday

[rapid abyss]

this one just

[lapis bough]

okay