NSMB: The Rainbow Quest

[mellow basin]

Beachy SMBs release will be probably in Autumn 2025

[sour kettle]

be sure to take pictures

[lapis bough]

i will, but idk if i'll send them here tho

[sour kettle]

oh yeah i figured as much

[lone jetty]

Late reply cuz apparently all the Discord servers are active today and I'm not omnipresent lol, don't feel bad for not being able to work on the hack, you obviously won't have time or motivation every time, also, I get how you feel about going on a trip, I once went to my aunt's house for a week and I couldn't work on my hack because she has no Wi-Fi and I didn't bring my puter with me, and I was desperate, but sometimes you need a rest to not overwhelm yourself too much, and that way you can get some clever ideas for the hack

[lapis bough]

the thing is that i already got this rest. i just wanna work on the hack (and other stuff) but i cant

[mellow basin]

Same problem

[lapis bough]

Okay so here's what i plan to do in the next days (if i can, the 3 weeks-long unavailability doesn't count):

• Fixing the new underground tileset ✅
• Retiling and improving 1-2 and the bonus room of 1-1 1/2
• Finishing 6-2
• Making the "Waterfall cliffs" tileset
• Making new hud graphics
• Probably modify some sound effects
• Making my own "mario dies lose a life" and "level clear" themes

might also start a new level later, probably world 3 or 5

[loud elm]

oooh
waterfall cliffs

[lapis bough]

pretty sure that it will take more time than "the next few days" tho

[lapis bough]

yep

[lone jetty]

-# You might also want to add "Add the NSMB2 door to the jyotyu" to the list

[lapis bough]

nah idk lol

i plan on adding more stuff to the jyotyu tileset and rework some stuff like the power ups tho

[lone jetty]

k

[lapis bough]

"Crystal Cave" tileset showcase

i just had to fix it and use a non-buggy tileset slot, ive done pretty much everything else a week ago

keep in mind that this is a test area

[lone jetty]

Damn, the tileset looks awesome

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

and i added the tnts

[zinc rivet]

Good!!!!

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

Okay so, yesterday i revamped (mostly remade) the bonus area of 1-1, and started revamping 1-2. Today i made a bit more progress on 1-2

i think i'll show the bonus area of 1-1 today

[lapis bough]

forgot the video

i'll do it later if i remember

[lapis bough]

I'm sick, and i'm going in vacation on thursday. So i wont be able to make progress on the hack

please mark this as paused, i cant for some reason

[lone jetty]

That must definitely be a Discord bug, I ran into the same issue before

[lapis bough]

MARK THIS AS PAUSED PLEASE

there's not gonna be any progress for almost a month

(I'm currently sick and i'll travel for 3 weeks on thursday. I wont be able to work on the hack for all this time)

[lapis bough]

Thanks!!

[lapis bough]

I think 1-A with jumping cheep-cheeps + silhouette effect could be a good idea

gonna write some levels i wanna work on (when i'll be able to) + their gimmicks

(and some that i already started working on)

[lapis bough]

6-2 : Parakoopas + Yellow lifts
1-A : Jumping cheep cheeps + silhouette effect
3-3 : Scale lifts + waterfalls
2-Castle : Stone-ified enemies brought back to life with switches (like in newer wii)
4-Tower : Steam garden tower, moving stone blocks with spikes
7-3 : Rotating mushroom platforms (like nsmbwii)

[lapis bough]

Made some icons! I know it will get compressed horribly with that many colors so i made a fully purple one too instead of rainbow

i think i'll also make a version with gradient dithering and a version with a full color for the background

Screenshots from ibis paint in case anti aliasing makes it hard to see it on discord

[lone jetty]

Looking nice, could probably import the rainbow one and see what happens

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i'll try when i get back home, yea

[zinc rivet]

Rainbow is better

YO YOU USED IBIS TOO

Loos good btw! 🙂

[lapis bough]

yea actually i did that because i saw you draw on ibis paint too so i decided that i would use it for once for nsmb

i tried making 2 kinds of pseudo-dithering for the rainbow, to make the colors transition better

second one seems to work better

[zinc rivet]

The second one is better

[lapis bough]

slight tweak to the second dithering, i think i'll use this one

[zinc rivet]

Looks good!

No more swimming poule 😭

[lapis bough]

nah i dont feel great rn

[lapis bough]

i just wanna point out that i didnt draw the star from scratch, i took an image of the paint stars from color splash, resized it, and drew over it

[zinc rivet]

Today im not good too, I'm feeling a bit of an "emptiness" even though I don't know how to explain it, it's something like

[lapis bough]

yea i see

for me its kinda the opposite. we're doing too many things but i just wanna lay down and do something more calm instead of going outside again

[silent apex]

Hi. How’s The New Super Mario Bros The Lost Sequel Progress Going?

[lone jetty]

Right now is temporarily paused, since Bester is currently on vacation

[lapis bough]

i need to work on it
i need to work on it
i need to work on it
i need to work on it
i need to work on it

I NEED TO WORK ON IT

[mellow basin]

WORK ON IT!!!!!

[lapis bough]

coming back in about 5 days i think, then i'll be able to work on it

[mellow basin]

WE NEED IT!

[lapis bough]

i cant 😭😭😭

im on a trip

[mellow basin]

🫤

[lone jetty]

Did you get some ideas?

[lapis bough]

not a lot

[lone jetty]

And did you take some photos on your trip?

[lapis bough]

but i have too much ideas already

[lapis bough]

yea but idk if i'll share them

[lone jetty]

Gotcha

[zinc rivet]

YOU NEED TO WORK ON IT BESTER

WORK ON IT BESTER 😡

[lapis bough]

I CANT 😭😭😭

[lone jetty]

Bester, work on it or else... ||kjsakdsancli||

[zinc rivet]

Dont do this, its so cruel 🥺 😭

[lone jetty]

Do you know what else is cruel?

Pinging

[lapis bough]

[lapis bough]

Oh i got the idea of a new power up, tho idk if it will ever get added to the hack

[zinc rivet]

Bubble flower?!?!

[lapis bough]

The POW Flower:
Every time X or Y is pressed (just like when you want to shoot a fireball), all enemies on screen get killed, with a flash on the screen. Bosses don't get defeated instantly, they just get hit once.
But you can only use it 3 times before powering down to Super Mario

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhh thats cool!

[lapis bough]

Also another power up sorta will get added to the hack. Not really a power up but it will look like it. And it will only be present in certain levels. I wont tell more for now

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Its bubble flower i think

[lapis bough]

i wont tell more for now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc rivet]

I would love to see a nsmbds mod with bubble flower lol

[zinc rivet]

Gotcha

[lapis bough]

but don't set your expectations too high, it's something that has somewhat been done before in nsmb

[zinc rivet]

Hammer? Shuriken? Cape? Smb3 ish Flying Shell? ParaShell? Proppeller shroom? Skawo suit? Bomb suit? Magikoopa suit? Did i guess which one it will be in any of these or not?

BOMB SHIT LMFAO

[lapis bough]

lmfao

since when is skawo suit a thing?

also dont set your expectations too high as i said

[zinc rivet]

I said this as a joke

[lapis bough]

like really, please dont its not that great

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

Will you ask Will or Illy to code them for u?

[lapis bough]

Not this one (the one i havent revealed yet)

maybe for another power up i will if i get a power up idea (the POW Flower might be a good one), but not this one

just dont set your expectations too high

I HAVE SAID TOO MUCH

[lone jetty]

Sure

[lapis bough]

QUICKLY GO TO THE CHOPPER

[lone jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-minecraf-nether-portal-mario-portal-gif-22036308

Bester didn't say anything, Bester didn't say anything

[zinc rivet]

(The portal is already being edited)

[lone jetty]

It was all a dream

[lapis bough]

yes its a gd reference

[zinc rivet]

LMAOOOO

[lapis bough]

Idk if i said it already but i think i might (try to) compose my own "Lose a life", "Level clear" and "Game Over" themes for the hack

but i need to learn how to use FL Studio first :p

chances are that i could make the game over theme be a reference to something, tho im not sure

gahhh i just wanna make progress but because cant make progress i just repeat my ideas 😭

Might also need to learn more stuff in blender so i can try making a custom tileset

i think i'll also try to experiment with original ideas for a code hack-less final boss (when i can that is)

because idk if the final boss will be (really) custom

[lapis bough]

sometimes i feel like this hack will remain in development for several years

i started a year ago and only finished like 7 levels so far i think

[lapis bough]

Reminder:
Insert this into the hack
#nsmb-programming message

[lapis bough]

version with a plain color for the background

nahh discord compresses it for no reason ☠️

guess i'll use google drive

yes im back home

[lone jetty]

Try sending a screenshot instead, that way we could have a better overview

[lapis bough]

tho i wont have much time because tomorrow im busy

[lone jetty]

Hooray

[lapis bough]

and school restarting soon

[lapis bough]

here i sent a screenshot, its pretty much the same thing

okay it works with google drive

looks like this once imported in nsmbe, the color compression is not too bad

tho yea it loses pretty much half of the shading

[lone jetty]

Yeah, looks decent, have you tried NitroPaint?

[lapis bough]

no

idk if it will work with nitro paint knowing that the file also contains other data than the image

but guess i can try

it opens, tho idk how to replace the image

[junior junco]

create a new texture in nitro paint then save it. Then open the model in nitro paint and replace the texture with your new .tga

[lapis bough]

is it safe for the banner file tho? because it contains other data

[junior junco]

You probably shouldnt do it for the banner file

[lapis bough]

oh okay then

[lone jetty]

Try doing this:

• On NitroPaint go to New --> New Texture --> Select your icon and convert it to palette16 and save it
• Click on New --> New Texture Archive --> Add and select the icon you converted, then save it as an NSBTX
• Replace a random NSBTX with the one you made (make sure to export the original one first)
• Take a look at each color in the NSBTX and try to replicate each color in "banner.bin"
• Export the PNG in the NSBTX and on "banner.bin" import that PNG with the "import this bitmap with existing palette" setting and save, don't forget to reimport the original NSBTX after you're done

[lapis bough]

i'll try this

[lone jetty]

There's probably an easier way, but that's usually how I would do it, Idk how to replace the banner in NitroPaint either

[lapis bough]

its a bit complicated

looks beter in the nsbtx but the eyes are blank now

[sour kettle]

with banners id definitely hand-optimize the palette n such insteada relying on colour quantization

[lapis bough]

okay

i think i'll try Ztardust's method first because optimizing the colors manually seems a bit complicated

[lone jetty]

When I said "Take a look at each color in the NSBTX and try to replicate each color in banner.bin" I basically meant hand manipulate each color in the palette, lol

[lapis bough]

okay so thats pretty much the same thing except less quality loss thanks to nitro paint, right?

tho yea thats what i had understood from it

[lone jetty]

Yep, though, don't expect it to look too good, since you're still limited to 16 colors, lmao

[lapis bough]

i mean it looks good with the nsbtx

[zinc rivet]

What banner file have?

[lapis bough]

other data such as the game's name recognized by the ds

[zinc rivet]

Gotcha

[lapis bough]

dang i wish i had one more color available. black became transparent with nitro paint, and im pretty much redrawing over what was imported in the banner.bin file

its for a variation of red that i need the color tho

well whatever i guess it will do without it

[sour kettle]

you might be able to use transparent as a stand in for white

[lapis bough]

ohh okay then

[sour kettle]

since i think banners usually only show on a white bg

[lapis bough]

okay, thanks!

[sour kettle]

but i also dont have any way to test that comprehensivly

[lapis bough]

oh

well i think i'll keep it like that then, at least for now

[lone jetty]

I think it's different on an R4 though

[lapis bough]

looking like this

[lapis bough]

yea i thought about that

[sour kettle]

ah i see

[lapis bough]

looks a lot better now imo

[zinc rivet]

Change the transparent color to white in the editor so

[junior junco]

You can awalys use a grey as a dark shade of every colour

[lapis bough]

oh true

looks like that in melonds

[zinc rivet]

Why i read "gay as a dark shade of every color" lmfaooo 😭

[lapis bough]

lmao

[zinc rivet]

New super mario bros central: pictochat edition

-# i had to make this joke when i saw pictochat

[lapis bough]

is that a reference to what i said last time or not?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

also took this opportunity to try the hack on melonds, and entering 1-1 doesnt crash, unlike Twilight Menu ++ which crashes when you enter any level for some reason

i think i'll add something to the banner tho

some gold corner thingies

i.. think i broke the banner file somehow

[sour kettle]

whassup with it

[lapis bough]

its blank

[sour kettle]

oh

[lapis bough]

the only change i did was adding a few pixels tho, i dont see why that would cause a problem

[lone jetty]

Lol? What if you try reimporting the banner from a clean rom?

[lapis bough]

and redo everything again? 😭

oh its fixed now

idk what i did, i just reopened melonds, and also tried hex editing it but without saving

looking like that with the borders

i like it

[junior junco]

Twilight menu++ just crashes for me whenever I use a rom that has a ncp patch

[zinc rivet]

Bug patcher

[lapis bough]

pretty much the same for me, tho when i tried using only 1 or 2 patches, it worked?

[junior junco]

Same for me

[lapis bough]

okay

[viral rivet]

You can just right click the top left tile, select "Import Bitmap and Replace Palette"

It'll generate a palette and graphics data, then you can save

[sour kettle]

oh outta curiosity what role do the rainbow shine sprite thingies play in your hack

[lapis bough]

oh okay

[lapis bough]

well, you get them at the end of each world. JPG64 even made a custom model for them, replacing the key dropped from the boss

and they're part of the plot of the hack, and if i manage to have cutscenes (with slides) then we'll be able to see the plot in-game

[sour kettle]

ohh right i remember now

[lapis bough]

alright

[lapis bough]

I kinda wanna work on the hack today but im not sure what i should make progress with

[lapis bough]

also REMINDER

[lapis bough]

probably doing some hud stuff? idk

i also need to do that change on the title screen logo

chances are that i'll replace the items by a rainbow star tho, or a silhouette of it

[lapis bough]

what about no?

[zinc rivet]

@lapis bough i saw this, you might like, its some powerup ideas
#nsmbhd-updates message

Sorry for the ping

[lapis bough]

interesting, thanks, tho idk if i'll use them

[junior junco]

I have already done one lol

[lapis bough]

yea it reminded me of yours

except that it has some extra specific info like the cloud disintegrating when touching water

[lapis bough]

lmfaoooo

is this one of you making a joke? or someone genuinely asking? lol

[junior junco]

that kid again

at this point I dont no if he is joking, a dumb kid or a kid using a translator

[lapis bough]

wait its the same? lol

i left a reply explaining that the hack isnt released

[zinc rivet]

Oh no its him again 😭

[lone jetty]

No shit, it's the descargar para Android kid again 💀

[lone jetty]

The last two I believe

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

Or the 3 ones

[strange jackal]

bro just give the link of my para android nsmbe tutorials

[zinc rivet]

Give the newer ds beta xdelta, they will not know how to patch, and if know, they will get a heart attack

Its a bit cruel, no dont do it

[maiden leaf]

ngl you haven't made one android tutorial

[zinc rivet]

Because for us its not scary, we arent children anymore, but if they are children they will get scared of it, and its not cool

Am I exaggerating too much?

[lapis bough]

lol

[lapis bough]

no bad idea

[zinc rivet]

Yeah lol

[strange jackal]

im making one today

i got android phone

ready

huwawei

[zinc rivet]

I read huwuwei

[lapis bough]

Oh yea also, forgot to say that my friend is gonna help me with the hack! She helped me a bit already actually

NO this doesn't mean that progress will be faster

[loud elm]

Download link para android

[lapis bough]

Please suggest me something in particular to make progress on for these next few days

[loud elm]

tilesets

world 1

[zinc rivet]

World 9 😡

[lapis bough]

The only tileset left to be made for world 1 is the athletic/sky tileset, and im not sure what it could look like

[loud elm]

look at your overworld

one

and make it more fun

[lapis bough]

i improved it already

wait it has been deleted or smth?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099460573034463364/1261490848756142191/Grassland_Tileset_v2_Test_02.PNG?ex=66d9aea7&is=66d85d27&hm=4706de501a33af0284caa5fd6f751b4b9ba1dc66a5fea59b255bfd70c9022c77&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099460573034463364/1261490849104134234/Grassland_Tileset_v2_Test_04.PNG?ex=66d9aea7&is=66d85d27&hm=0d6e3303f88cdc7e56f2be6a9570eaaf4cc993ee328c010889eb6c8986cb98db&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099460573034463364/1261490850337394749/Grassland_Tileset_v2_Test_12.PNG?ex=66d9aea8&is=66d85d28&hm=6a96f0a10631356da16f9535444291f08ae5c59e6f975676f68e4b87489f2092&

couldnt copy all the screenshots

[loud elm]

holy cannoli that looks just like mini smbs athletic

whoops

ping

my bad

[lapis bough]

its alright

[lapis bough]

Saying the "new" world themes (idk if i said it already):
W1: Sunset Plains
W2: Desert Ruins
W3: Waterfalls Beach
W4: Mystical Forest
W5: Snow Summits
W6: Koopa Skyscrapers
W7 (secret): Near-Space Ruins
W8: Bowser's Cave/Inferno

basically world 4 and 7 have been changed

[zinc rivet]

I liked the themes

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

New title screen logo!

gahhh i feel like the copyright is uncentered

it was only uncentered by 2 pixels. i feel like its the logo messing up my perception

[maiden leaf]

yo that's fire

Has to be one of the best title screens I've seen

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[lone jetty]

Oh nice!

Yeah, best hack's logo I've ever seen

Great work

[loud elm]

Logo feels a bit cluttered imo but other than that wow

Also whos RainbowDashers

[lone jetty]

Bester's new username confirmed?

NSMB The Lost Sequel releasing in 2025 confirmed?

Oh, maybe it's because Bester said a friend would help him with the hack (?)

[loud elm]

maybe erm is bester7's Secret Team=!?!??!?!

[zinc rivet]

HOW U MAKE THAT SO BEAUTFULL

If u want i can make this part of the terrain going to the bottom screeen on the bg

Like on my mod

I should make the copyright too

[lavish zinc]

Who Made this?

[zinc rivet]

He

Thats why he is the Bester

[lone jetty]

Secret sect that he's forming to start a rebellion against Central?!?!??!?!?!

[loud elm]

Downfall of ndy

Uprising of bester

Death of Will and Craig

[lone jetty]

Ndymario: 0
TheBester7: 1

[lavish zinc]

I'm the Legend tho?

[lone jetty]

Who are you?

[lavish zinc]

😭

[lone jetty]

Who's Craig?

Craig of the Creek?

[loud elm]

@cursive sorrel

[lavish zinc]

Lmao

[lone jetty]

Oh, so Fuzzy's real name is Craig?

[zinc rivet]

No its Subair

[loud elm]

No thats just what i call him

Will Smith: William
CringeFuzzy: Craig

[lone jetty]

Lmao

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

Remember when i said my friend's gonna make me with the hack?

[lapis bough]

lmaooo

[lone jetty]

So I is right

[lapis bough]

not so secret but yea

[lapis bough]

wait gonna call them

@vague breach

[vague breach]

yooooooo

[lapis bough]

yoooooooo

[vague breach]

well, hi i guess

[lapis bough]

hi

[vague breach]

-# idk what to say this is embarrassing

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

Hey

[vague breach]

hi :)

[lapis bough]

so she helped me with a bunch of stuff, sometimes with ideas. and she has been watching me working on the hack too

now i think she's ready to work on more stuff

[vague breach]

yep

[lapis bough]

no this doesnt mean that progress on the hack will be faster tho

[vague breach]

yes that's mainly because we use the same pc to work on the hack

i think its worth noting that we sometimes share accounts tho, sometimes i use thebester7's

[cursive sorrel]

shut up co*k

the letter o is missing

[zinc rivet]

Stop

[lapis bough]

Did i say that I was working on revamping 1-2? Both the aesthetic and the level design

[lone jetty]

I don't think so, but I expected it since you redid the underground tileset

[lapis bough]

okay

I reached like half of the level today

and I wanna redo the mega mushroom star coin

[loud elm]

oh right the other person with sorta matching pfps

[loud elm]

oh ok craig

[loud elm]

are you guys like siblings or really close friends

[lapis bough]

really really close friends

[lapis bough]

yea you noticed lol

[zinc rivet]

I found it cute somehow

[lapis bough]

what did you find cute?

the matching pfps?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

it was half of an accident. it was actually an older pfp where our gd cubes are also in, but she used it as a placeholder until finding a new one

and yea its us two in my pfp

[lavish zinc]

I find it G

[lapis bough]

???

[lavish zinc]

Gay

[lapis bough]

nah we just love rainbows :3

[lavish zinc]

💀

[lapis bough]

???

whats wrong with that

[lavish zinc]

Nothing I just joking

https://tenor.com/view/water-fall-gif-5505083

[lapis bough]

NSMB. TLS World 3 footage leaked

[zinc rivet]

I love rainbows too :3

[zinc rivet]

Why?

[lone jetty]

Poor rainbow, nobody can use it now because people always associate it with gay 😔

[strange jackal]

remember back in the day when saying "look a rainbow!" wasnt gay

[lapis bough]

in my level dreams, the first part is rainbow-themed and someone said that it was gay lmao

[lapis bough]

speaking of which, I'm gonna put a bunch of references to my level Dreams (at least 2 levels) in the hack

and world 7 is very inspired by Dreams, and another level called "The Far Sky" (i actually got inspiration from it for Dreams)

[lavish zinc]

💀 wait what

[lapis bough]

i think i deleted the comment lmao

the first part of the level looks like this tho

i think i'll make a level that looks similar in the hack

[lone jetty]

Reminds me of the first level in the mushroom world from NSMB2

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

Nsmb2 is a gd reference?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!!??!1!1

[lapis bough]

omg no way

[lapis bough]

i was gonna use the background from this level for this theme actually

this one:
https://discord.com/channels/399424476259024897/1281566493263528009

[zinc rivet]

It fits

[lapis bough]

yep

[zinc rivet]

Its similar to this

[lapis bough]

idk what gimmicks the level is gonna use tho

[lapis bough]

yes thats why i chose it

[zinc rivet]

Koopa tropas

[lone jetty]

[lapis bough]

kinda vague, not really much of a gimmick imo

when i find something interesting for this im gonna use it as a gimmick

[zinc rivet]

Lakitus?

[lapis bough]

no not for this level 😭

[junior junco]

Block hoppers could work

or maybe broozers

[lapis bough]

maybe for block hoppers, i dont really see broozers working with this tho

[zinc rivet]

Oh true

[lapis bough]

guess i'll work on other levels i have ideas for, for now, ideas for this one will come eventually

(and finish revamping 1-2 first)

[junior junco]

broozers work can everywhere

[lapis bough]

yea true

i just feel like that im probably gonna use this theme only once (or twice) and that i need something more special or something

[lone jetty]

Broozers can work everywhere yeah, but I personally feel they don't really fit in all kinds of levels

Tho, this is more of a personal preference

[lapis bough]

yea they might feel a bit weird with some themes, but still work

[maiden leaf]

i feel lakitus aren't a bad idea for a cloudy level

or you could just use their clouds

[lapis bough]

yea true, tho the whole world is mostly cloud-themed

i kinda want something more special for the level

tho probably later, i have levels that i have ideas that im sure about

[maiden leaf]

ah ok

[lapis bough]

I wanna add 2-3 airship levels into the hack, but idk where they would be

[zinc rivet]

w3, w6 w8

Like wii

[lapis bough]

not in w1 because the levels have been made already
maybe as 2-
maybe one as either 3- or 3-
maybe 4-
maybe 5- or 5-
maybe 7-
definitely w8 (probably or 2)

[lapis bough]

i have things planned for world 6 already tho. 6-1 is probably gonna be the inside of the building, 6-2 is gonna be Jump Up Super Star (if Nitro WAV gets fixed that is), and 6- is gonna be Bowser's secret sewers

[lapis bough]

Forgot to say who the bosses at the end of each world will (most likely) be

Bosses:
W1 - Mega Goomba
W2 - Mummipokey
W3 - Cheepskipper
W4 - Dry Bowser
W5 - Lakithunder
W6 - Petey Piranha
W7 - Bowser Jr with a twist
W8 - Monty Tank

Bowser Jr for world 7 because he's not gonna release a rainbow star and world 7 is a secret world. and it could be a nice boss

[cursive sorrel]

dry bowser but no bowser?

[lapis bough]

nah regular bowser kinda sucks honestly

but yea it doesn't make too much sense story-wise

i remember someone doing something with switches to make the fight far more interesting tho

oh wait dry bowser doesn't drop a key...

[lapis bough]

Oh also, I said earlier that we did some sfx modifications. One of the sounds that we changed was when you open the DS. Now, it's Mario and Luigi saying "Super Mario Brothers!".

Some other changes are Bowser's voice (being replaced by nsmb2 voiceclips), 2 Mario voicelines being replaced with some from sm64, and the "bye-bye" when you close the DS. Though one of the 2 bowser voices and the "bye-bye" are broken in-game for some reason. The first one is silent while the other one is corrupted.

[lapis bough]

i should really work on levels faster... at this rate i'll finish in 2-3 years

[lapis bough]

2-3 years...

is it a refrenerence to this??2!1?2!1
https://youtu.be/5MoBJ-l7ZyA?si=Hpep-9MNElZF9fdV

[zinc rivet]

NOO WAAAAY

[lavish zinc]

LETS GOO

[lapis bough]

???

[lavish zinc]

I was about to say why there fucking flying arrow sign💀

[lapis bough]

no its on the bricks lol

[lapis bough]

I need to make a tileset for world 3 (and another one for underwater areas)

[sour kettle]

whas world 3s theme again

[zinc rivet]

Waterfall

[sour kettle]

ah neato

[lone jetty]

Waterfall beach

[cursive sorrel]

it's just beach with extra

[lone jetty]

That's basically what almost all worlds are from what I've read

#1208478549380431872 message

[lapis bough]

Yep pretty much
Edit: i misread

[cursive sorrel]

💀 ops..

it's not a bad thing tho

[lapis bough]

its gonna have a bigger focus on waterfalls tho

[cursive sorrel]

a theme that I thought of and would really love to try is rainy desert

[lapis bough]

oh yea that could be interesting

maybe i can make a level with that? idk

[zinc rivet]

My hack is worse i think

In themes i mean

[cursive sorrel]

already stealing ideas??

I'm joking, I could actually even help u with that

[lapis bough]

sorry i thought you meant that you wanted to see it in the hack 😭

[zinc rivet]

Because its almost everything from newer but with small touch

[lapis bough]

but i'll probably forget either way so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive sorrel]

I'm thinking of night/stormy/dark and rain in the desert

it would allow a lot of creative ways to make use of that

[lone jetty]

I already made something like this but nobody liked it

[lapis bough]

interesting

[cursive sorrel]

probably was trash

jk

[lapis bough]

that one with the different sky?

[cursive sorrel]

I haven't seen it

[loud elm]

you mean borrowing permanently right

[lone jetty]

#1218059119014051982 message

[cursive sorrel]

that's not how I thought of a rainy desert

it's just desert with rain

I'm speaking about a really stormy one

darker tiles etc.

[lone jetty]

I see

[lapis bough]

i think its the execution that had to be improved, like, using a dark bg, and giving a reason why there's rain in the level (like a gimmick) tho the gimmick is not really required

[cursive sorrel]

I wish there was a better rain effect, putting a texture in front and then moving it horizontally looks odd

[lapis bough]

W4, W6 and W7 will be very different from their nsmb counterparts tho (especially W7)

[lapis bough]

sadly, without some new code hack, there isn't really a way to do that

[cursive sorrel]

nah I could easily do it, I'm sure

[lapis bough]

okay

[cursive sorrel]

just not how exactly

I mean like how I want the effect to look like

[cursive sorrel]

also don't let it get to you, it was meant to be sarcastic

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[sour kettle]

oh yeah i had tried messing with a rainy deserty sorta thing too

after i saw ztardust doing his

but i stopped working on the tileset cause it wasnt looking quite right

also cause lazy

[lone jetty]

I'm still wondering how you could make a rainy desert level and make it look good

Maybe a desert tileset with some grassy decorations, add water to the level and a spike bass

[lapis bough]

that could work yea

[sour kettle]

was thinkin sorta beige cliffs with mud

[cursive sorrel]

grey-ish sand

I'm thinking of giving it darker look

something that causes depressions for the players sorta thing

[lone jetty]

That sounds more like a depressive land than a rainy desert tbh

[cursive sorrel]

but a cool theme

you seem to be thinking more of an oasis type thing

[maiden leaf]

aint no such thing as a rainy desert

[cursive sorrel]

my theme would allow to use desert enemies and ghost house enemies at the same time

and water

[lone jetty]

Never said it was a bad theme, I'm just saying I can't really associate that with a deseet, lmao

[cursive sorrel]

guess what there is also no such thing as lizard kidnapping a princess so stfu

[zinc rivet]

But theres no such thing as a rainy desert

[cursive sorrel]

🦜

[zinc rivet]

But theres no such thing as a rainy desert

[lone jetty]

Rainy oasis is prboaly the closest thing you can get to a rainy desert

[loud elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AABoOmfSNpI

[lapis bough]

lmao

yea that's what i was thinking, it DOES exist

[maiden leaf]

obviously it rains sometimes

[cursive sorrel]

yeah so it does exist

[lavish zinc]

I remember that I got poke from Catus 😭

[zinc rivet]

I have a cactus

Pumpkin boneyard dont exist but still i have it

[lapis bough]

nvm

[loud elm]

💔

[lapis bough]

JPG64 have you finished with the W6 worldmap model?

[zinc rivet]

Not yet, a doubt, you want me to add water arround the map or no?

Btw, wich levels need the thunderclouds?

[lapis bough]

preferably no, because it wouldn't make sense

[zinc rivet]

Oki

[lapis bough]

i think i told you already, but 6-2, and probably 6-B

also later i might need you to make a background worldmap (idiot) for world 5 please

[zinc rivet]

Sure, yeah you told but i forget wich of them are

[zinc rivet]

Sure 😉

[lapis bough]

i meant worldmap not background 😭

[zinc rivet]

@lapis bough you have the texture for the "welcome to koopa sky scrappers" ? I lost it last week when i erased my galery

[lapis bough]

pretty sure the zip file is still in DMs

[zinc rivet]

Its not in the file, i re-downloaded it already

[lapis bough]

actually no

probably forgot to send it or idk

maybe tomorrow?

i cant really do that now

[zinc rivet]

Sure dw 😉

[zinc rivet]

Yeah ik, i already confunded it, and we're talking about maps so i ready noticed it

[lapis bough]

oh ok then

[sour kettle]

outta curiosity jpg what do you mean when you say "a doubt"

like in portugese

[zinc rivet]

Uma duvida

[sour kettle]

ah

after taking a peek online i think itd be better translated as "one question" in this case

[junior junco]

If Bester wants to do this, you can use a codehack to add a w6tree model and animation, that way you can have bobing thunder clouds and trees

[zinc rivet]

The clouds i have a nsbta trick

Like i did in my w1

[lapis bough]

oh that could be nice

[lapis bough]

Working on the Waterfall cliffs/beach tileset

the actual beach will probably be slightly different, with more beach deco (sand, palm trees, etc)

[zinc rivet]

Yo this is fuego

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Yw 🙂

[lapis bough]

and the challenge of the tileset will be to incorporate animated waterfalls

[zinc rivet]

This gives a mario odyssey cliff vibe, i loved it tbh

[lapis bough]

yep i mostly got inspired by the cascade kingdom actually

[zinc rivet]

You could create it with background actors (like the propeller)

[lapis bough]

maybe

[zinc rivet]

They are good becuase they have transparency

[lapis bough]

but i had planned to do stuff with the "animated ice" stuff. not really animated but part of the palette switching to make some animation

[zinc rivet]

Yeah but iirc its back n forth

[lapis bough]

its not?

https://nsmbhd.net/post/75948/

wait noooooo

i'll still try

[lapis bough]

i'll continue stuff tomorrow

today i made more progress on 1-2 and i started making the tileset

[sour kettle]

nice

[zinc rivet]

Oh btw, i have a tip for you, you merged the layers or you didn't did that yet? Becuase you can add shadows in the leafs

[lapis bough]

added them

and then merged the layers

thanks tho!

[zinc rivet]

Yw 🙂

[lapis bough]

yesterday i got 2 ideas for levels, using the ledges (like those in world 6). i think one will be in w3 in combination with the paratroopas, and the other one in world 5 with bullet bills

[lapis bough]

2 variations of the tileset done!

the graphics are ready to import into nsmbe, but i'll have to redraw the waterfall tiles to not break stuff

[lone jetty]

Looks really nice, it gives me a "thropical" feeling

Nice work

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

I like how the revamp of 1-2 is turning out

it's almost finished

[lavish zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-dance-dance-move-gif-15771781

[lapis bough]

:/

[lavish zinc]

what the tileset is good🔥

[loud elm]

you pinged him

he usually goes ":/" when hes üinged

[lavish zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-i-gotta-get-out-of-here-panic-afraid-i-gotta-get-outta-here-gif-1138122925932307046

[lapis bough]

no its because you just sent a gif without saying anything

[lavish zinc]

oh

[lone jetty]

?

[cursive sorrel]

ofc you're making the trailer on the phone 😭

[zinc rivet]

Mod trailer

[lone jetty]

This is not your hack's channel tho

[lavish zinc]

DON"t

[zinc rivet]

Oh

IM SO FUCKING DUMB

Sorry bester

[lone jetty]

[lavish zinc]

@zinc rivet YOU MAKE THAT Trailer ON A LAPTOP

[junior junco]

I have accidently posted my stuff in all of your channels before lol, I just delete it right away and delete the logs in #mod-logs. So nobody knows :3

[lone jetty]

I'm sorry to say but I saw you posted stuff in wrong channels a few times right before you deleted them =3

[lavish zinc]

😦

[zinc rivet]

Lmaoo

[junior junco]

you never noticed them if you did...

/j

[lavish zinc]

What😭

[zinc rivet]

You NEVER noticed it

[lone jetty]

[lapis bough]

???

why on my channel 😭

[lavish zinc]

Yeah why 💀

[zinc rivet]

It was acidentally i swear 😭

[lapis bough]

i know but why do y'all keep talking 😭

time to give progress on the hack then

[zinc rivet]

YESSIRRRR

[lapis bough]

today we did nothing, but yesterday, Cloudie and I worked on the revamp of 1-2. it's almost finished, we just have to redo the secret exit area

[lone jetty]

Bro says he posted on the wrong chat to cover up the fact that he is advertising his hack on every possible channel 🤫

[zinc rivet]

Not real 😭

[lapis bough]

dang i really wanna make the waterfall thingies but i gotta wait till i have time

[lapis bough]

Oh yeah we also decided that, from now on, we won't show every single level we finish, only show those that seem to be worth showing (for example, some that has a new world theme or a unique gimmick). We keep the surprise for the rest of them.

[lapis bough]

gahhh dang it we didn't have time to work on stuff again today

[lapis bough]

I just realized that I forgot to remove the "paused" tag lmao. I still can't do it tho

[junior junco]

done

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

okay so... the animated waterfalls arent animated at all...

[zinc rivet]

Hoe they arent animated?

How*

[lapis bough]

i tried doing the ice palette swap thingy and replace the tileset 3 slot, but the color doesnt change for some reason?

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

i spent hours and it doesnt work

screw it

you know what i'll try to fix it later, i spent too much time on it

[lone jetty]

Have you tried following DM's tutorial?

Also, it's just a personal prefference, but I'd replace the quicksand animations instead, if you don't wanna sacrifice it you could replace only one of the two quicksand tiles

[lapis bough]

the thing is that im trying to have at least like 12 different kinds of tiles

and the quicksand is:
1: used by the desert tileset
2: has a higher z-layer than mario

[lapis bough]

pretty much, tho the tutorial shows what happens, and how to prevent your tileset from breaking, rather than how to edit the palette

the problem might be that i edited the right side of the palette. the tutorial shows that the whole line is used, but i'm not sure if it is

[lone jetty]

I see

[lapis bough]

gotta reimport the graphics but its quite a mess: i will have to redraw the waterfalls from scratch

[lone jetty]

Other solution could possibly be importing the tileset in either the tower or castle tilesets and replace the conveyor belt animations with the waterfall ones, but I'm not sure if it'll work properly

[lapis bough]

that could work, but its also used for the actual tower and castle levels

i'll retry what i wanted to do first

[lone jetty]

Sure

I wish making animated tilesets was easier, you could let your creativity explode

[lapis bough]

yea true

[lapis bough]

okay so... the palette gets replaced, but the animation never plays, so it stays static

dang it

screw it

i wasted my day on this tileset and it doesnt work

SCREW THIS TILESET, SCREW NINTENDO'S WEIRD CODING DECISIONS, SCREW THIS GAME, SCREW EVERYTHING

dont expect more progress this weekend...

i lost my motivation

[lone jetty]

Ah damn

[lapis bough]

you know what, i think i'll just probably wait for a code hack and use placeholder water tiles in the meantime. then i'll probably work on other tilesets or levels or other stuff

[lapis bough]

what do you think about this background? (please tell me if it looks bad or if the quality is bad, be honest)

or this (fixed small stuff)

idk which looks better and idk if i'll even end up using this bg

also the background is ripped from another game

[zinc rivet]

I liked this bg

Looks good

[lone jetty]

Looks nice, but I personally feel that the tileset doesn't really fit at all with the bg, can't really tell why, but this is just my prefference

Which game did you rip it from out of curiosity?

[lapis bough]

i replaced the tileset with the one from newerds over a year ago. i plan to make a fitting custom tileset later

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

and thanks!!

[lapis bough]

believe it or not, it's from Geometry Dash

(it was originally in a single layer but i modified it and divided it into 2 layers)

[civic turtle]

the first image' bg better fits nsmb in my opinion, looks great

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i think i'll go back to the first one then

[sour kettle]

oh?

outta curiosity do you have a screenshot of how your palettes were done

i didnt really test uh

anyhting in that tutorial

so itd be useful to know if i made a mistake

[sour kettle]

oh also its very pretty

didja make it all yourself

[lapis bough]

thanks!

i ripped it from Geometry Dash actually

okay now the animation works??

like, randomly?

well it works now i guess

i probably had to use the left side of the palette

the 8 leftmost colors of each line

[lapis bough]

actually its because the last time i tested, i used the part of the palette that changes, but where the color it changes to are the exact same

so yea it works, but it seems to only affect the 8 leftmost colors of each row of the palette

seems to work now

tho the animation of the waterfalls is a bit weird (it goes back and forth and sometimes stays static), so i think i'll probably stick to the code hack that someone might make

another thing: it seems like the first palette row in the tileset uses the 4 first rows of the animation palette. but the second palette row seems to use rows 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, and 13-16 at random

here's a video to show what i mean

[lapis bough]

no way i accidentally made a perfect loop with the music

[zinc rivet]

THE LOOP!

[lapis bough]

with the music or the waterfalls?

[zinc rivet]

Both

The entire video loops

[lapis bough]

yea lol

[lavish zinc]

Bro got the Geometry dashtism

[lapis bough]

you recognized it?

[lapis bough]

i really wanna work on the tilesets for world 4 and world 7 for some reason

i might try doing like the city tileset: drawing part of it from scratch, and some of it with other graphics

not sure tho

and i most likely wont have time until in a few days

[sour kettle]

whatre the themes for w4 n 7 again

[zinc rivet]

4 is fish and 7 near space sky temple

Forest*

Fish lmfao

[sour kettle]

gotcha

[lapis bough]

dark purple forest precisely

[lapis bough]

i forgot about the hack lol

might not make progress today tho, i have other stuff to do and not much free time

[lapis bough]

idk whether i should finish the world 3 tilesets and make a level from world 3, or starting making the world 4 or 7 tileset

or maybe the number graphics?

[lone jetty]

I'd say finish the world 3 tilesets? At least one

-# How would you make a level if you have no tilesets?

[lapis bough]

the "make the w3 tilesets and make a level from world 3" was a single option actually lol

it's practically almost done if we forget about the waterfall animations (one of them is already done, i just have to replace some stuff with the sand stuff for the other one)

[lapis bough]

tileset in-game (sand version)

[lone jetty]

Looks really nice, great work

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[lapis bough]

all the progress i made today was changing the hud numbers on the bottom screen of the worldmap (for the lives). i plan to change the other numbers later

i edited them directly in nsmbe and its kinda tedious tbh, but at least i don't deal with all that palette crap

[lone jetty]

Tbf, I honestly preffer editng those graphics directly in NSMBe because of the palette crap, sometimes it can be tedious, but eventually, I ended up liking it

[lapis bough]

yea

i might also start making the world map icons, or at least a template for that, but idk if i'll do it today

the world themes are all defined tho i think

[lone jetty]

I was trying to make some worldmap icons for my hack today, but Jesus, I really suck at it 😔

[lapis bough]

dang :/

maybe i can give you the template once i make it?

[lone jetty]

Nah, it's fine, I don't even know what I wanna do for my icons yet

[cursive sorrel]

maybe leave it as it is 😍

[lapis bough]

okay

[lapis bough]

its the beta icons tho

[lone jetty]

No

[cursive sorrel]

I'm confused now

[lapis bough]

Ztardust has the beta icons in his hack because he uses the 256 colors map icons hack

[lone jetty]

Worldmap icons are limited to 16 colors and they share palettes, MeroMero made a code hack that allows you to have unique 256 color palettes for each icon and also includes beta icons for whatever reason

[cursive sorrel]

ohhh

[cursive sorrel]

yeah probably gonna include that in my mod too

[lapis bough]

dont you only have 1 world tho?

also for the waterfalls background, im not sure what it will be. i've been thinking about maybe taking the original lavafalls background and replacing the colors to become water, but then i'll sacrifice a background. another idea would be using the beach background that Ztardust made but placing waterfalls on it and managing to make it look good somehow

[lone jetty]

Well, I haven't messed around with the volcano background, but I believe its animations use the tileset palettes, so you might wanna take that into consideration

[cursive sorrel]

and? I might need a single world with 256 colors

[lapis bough]

yea true

[lone jetty]

Why don't you just use the original one?

[lapis bough]

i thought that maybe you wouldn't need to add a world icon at all

-# unless there's a secret bonus world

[cursive sorrel]

because of the plot

wouldn't make sense

[cursive sorrel]

tbh you're right, I'll see what I'm gonna do

[lone jetty]

I mean, if you don't mind the color limit you could just make one icon with 16 colors and make it in pixel-art style

[cursive sorrel]

let's see what Imma decide on

[lavish zinc]

Bro Cooked👏

[lapis bough]

thanks

[lapis bough]

i noticed that the background doesn't fit the nsmb style much, but i'd like to have some actual beach-looking background instead of cliffs. so i guess i'll try to make one similar to this one but in nsmb style

[cursive sorrel]

if you simplify it, it would

[lapis bough]

its the style tho

i could modify it but i also wanna make an nsmbds styled one

if y'all ask, this is the background:
#1080634951680147549 message

[lone jetty]

Yeah, I have that background too, I personally feel it's DS-Styled enough

[lapis bough]

oh okay then

[cursive sorrel]

it's definitely not bad but it needs to be simplified more, take a look at the cloud bgs in NSMB

[lapis bough]

i was thinking about using the clouds bg to make the nsmb-styled version actually

[lone jetty]

Are you gonna use the chicken clouds background?

[lapis bough]

its already in the hack so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

and i made an orange-pink variation for world 7

I actually used a trick for it: because of the limited background slots, I didnt know where to put it. So I decided to replace the "bg clouds (tall)" version with it, because it shares the same graphics, but not the same tilemap. So what I did was replacing the second, unused palette, with the variation. Then I imported the default "background clouds" over it, and changed the palette with the "change palette" feature. And bam, new variation with the same graphics but different palette.

[lone jetty]

Oh yeah, I did this with the beach background from my hack, there's the default one and the sunset one I used in 3-C

Kinda wish we could add more background to the game tho

[lapis bough]

trying to make some of the worldmap icons

for now i think that i'll only make w1, w2 and w6

because thats the only worlds where i know exactly what the graphics will look like (bg, tilesets, the worldmap itself)

[lapis bough]

only the w6 one left to be done

[velvet marten]

autumn

[lapis bough]

no its the Sunset Plains

[lapis bough]

done!!

i might need to import them in nitro paint to avoid quality loss

[sour kettle]

areyou using the 256 colour world icon patch

[lapis bough]

yes

[sour kettle]

ah

probs wont really need nitropaint for this case then

[lapis bough]

okay

looks like this in-game

[zinc rivet]

Shine sprite

[lapis bough]

yea i put it but then forgot to remove it

peach's castle should be where the blue toad house is, but should always be visible

[lone jetty]

They look awesome

[lapis bough]

thanks a lot!!!

[cursive sorrel]

agreed

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[cloudie] thanks!! ^-^

[cloudie] too lazy to say it on my other account ;-;

[lapis bough]

sometimes i kinda want a brand new power up in the hack but idk what

[lavish zinc]

Golden flower would be cool

[lapis bough]

by brand new i mean like a new custom one, like the shuriken flower in sakura smb

[lone jetty]

Make a powerup that makes Mario/Luigi fly, shoot fireballs, iceballs, ironballs, turns everything into coins, allows him to swim better, slide, destroy everything and fart

[lavish zinc]

How about poison flower where mario throws poison water

[lapis bough]

it will be the megastar switch

[lapis bough]

that could work but that would basically be the fire flower

[lapis bough]

and Knuckles

[lone jetty]

Para Android

[lapis bough]

we need an android logo emoji, with "ParaAndroid" as a name

[lone jetty]

Good idea!

[lapis bough]

Okay I think I found powerup ideas:

• Sword of Power: This powerful swords can kill enemies in front of Mario, and can do a horizontal dash attack (and float during the time of it). It can also defeat any enemy with a ground pound.
• Snow Flower: turns enemies into snowballs that you can roll, or grab (unless it's too large). If the terrain is snowy, the snowball will grow.

Note: they're not necessarily for my hack, those are just some random powerup ideas that I got

[sour kettle]

sounds like the mm2 master sword and nsmbw ice flower respectively

[lapis bough]

yea it was kinda inspired by that

tho the first one is also a bit inspired by Hollow Knight, and the second one is inspired by the growing snowballs from snow spikes, and the smm2 snowballs

[lapis bough]

If I (somehow) manage to learn how to code, and how to make my own code hacks, before finishing the hack, I'll try to make the tanooki leaf power up. Knowing how slow I am at making the hack, this might actually happen, who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour kettle]

have you messed around with code at all yet

[lapis bough]

not yet

but knowing myself im probably gonna finish the hack in at least 2 years

[sour kettle]

no time to start like the present

[lapis bough]

you mean i should start now?

[sour kettle]

mhm

why not

[lapis bough]

i dont think i understood your message correctly tho

[sour kettle]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_time_like_the_present

essentially "no better time to start than right now"

[lapis bough]

oh okay

i should probably learn C++ first tho

[lavish zinc]

https://www.learncpp.com/

[lapis bough]

i know another website for that, but thanks!

might try later tho

[lapis bough]

i need to add squigga into my hack

[zinc rivet]

Same

[lapis bough]

can someone code it for me pls

[zinc rivet]

You can share the code for squigga with me too?

[junior junco]

squiggas are already enemies in nsmbds though

[lapis bough]

i know im making a joke 😭

[zinc rivet]

-# nooo you killed the joke 😭

[junior junco]

what you need is a boss squigga

[zinc rivet]

I need it too

[junior junco]

a big, fat juicy, hairy boss squigga who farts out squigga's

[zinc rivet]

[zinc rivet]

LMFAO

[lapis bough]

that could be interesting

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

Rememeber me that one dkc 3 boss

[lone jetty]

For one second I saw this and thought Squigga finally got released 😔

[cursive sorrel]

bruh chill out, we got so much to do, you probably won't see it in 2025 except if Will Smith and me start throwing away our social life and spent the next months just on coding

[lone jetty]

I know, I was just joking, I'm not expecting it to get released anytime soon, in any case if I want custom worldmaps, I'll ask JPG, since he's the Goombatlas dominator

[lapis bough]

sorry lol

[maiden leaf]

January 17th 2025, mark your calendars

[lapis bough]

???

[zinc rivet]

?

[lapis bough]

nah there's no way the hack will release this soon, i made only 7 levels so far

we have at least 60 levels left 💀

[zinc rivet]

Ohh he is talking about this mod

[maiden leaf]

Hypothetical squigga release date

[lapis bough]

ohh

[zinc rivet]

NO WAAAAAAAAAY

[lapis bough]

okay then

[cursive sorrel]

stop spoiling it

hypothetically

[maiden leaf]

Can't spoil something that won't exist

[zinc rivet]

Hipotetically

[maiden leaf]

Sorry for polluting your thread bester

[zinc rivet]

You can say it in ssmb channel

[lapis bough]

i'll probably try to make custom music later today

i'll start with something simple: probably the game over jingle

[lapis bough]

i got an idea on how to make a more custom "game over" screen and without code hacks

and should be easy enough

[sour kettle]

whas the idea

[lapis bough]

i dont wanna reveal it for now but it's pretty simple

[sour kettle]

are you gonna replace the letters with something else

[lapis bough]

kinda

[lapis bough]

my goal is to make at least 3 custom songs in the hack (either covers i make myself or original tracks)

[lapis bough]

custom game over screen

i changed the textures and modified the bncl file

i should probably change the position of some of the stuff, but idk

also if anyone wants to modify the "continue/quit" screen, keep in mind that the colors are "hardcoded". the first color (after the transparency, so color 2) is for the black background, color 15 is for the shadow of the text, and color 16 is for the text itself. you probably want to modify those colors manually, and set them to what they were originally (black, gray, and white respectfully)

[cursive sorrel]

cool idea tho I'm not a fan of pixel mario/luigi

Would have been more funny to see DS mario in low resolution doing the death animation

but I guess hard with the color restriction

[lapis bough]

yea thats kinda why i used the retro sprites

[lapis bough]

1-2 revamped is done!! Cloudie helped a lot with it

[lone jetty]

Nice, great work

[zinc rivet]

How u edit it?

[lapis bough]

the graphics and the bncl file

[lone jetty]

Also, your game over screen looks great, I wonder if it'd be possible to use a code hack to make it an ENPG instead

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i guess that would be possible

[lapis bough]

oh wait i know how to modify it

centering everything on the y axis and putting Mario and Luigi on the edges

[lapis bough]

actually they're not hardcoded, they use the graphics from the original japanese version (where "Game Over" is written in caps). the original file is still in the game, but for some reason the developers decided to use this one for the "continue/quit" screen and the new one for the letters falling

nintendo being nintendo coding-wise once again

wait actually i'm not sure if that's even what's being used. the color is brown when opening this file with the (now modified) palette, but appears white in-game

[sour kettle]

do ya got a vid of it by chance

[lapis bough]

not yet

might make one tomorrow

tho i think that i/we should start to reveal less stuff and keep some of it as a surprise for when the hack releases

[lone jetty]

(i.e. in 2026 )

[lapis bough]

old ahh list, i should try making those levels first

[sour kettle]

fair fair

[lapis bough]

GAHHHHHHHHH it doesnt fucking work

ima make a help post at this point, im tired of that shit

i'll leave this for later

[sour kettle]

whas not workin

[lapis bough]

i made a post in #1019787889472712795

sseq instruments when importing a midi file

[sour kettle]

ah gotcha

[lapis bough]

There's something that I planned a while back: Challenge Houses. They're Toad houses on the world map, but are a few enemies to defeat when you enter the level, in a limited time, to get a reward. Kinda like map enemies on NSMBWii

The thing is that I might change that a bit: make them more like the SM3DW challenge houses, and getting a reward at the end. The reward will be some power ups (better power ups depending on how tough the enemies are). And the challenge houses wont "disappear" when you finish them like regular Toad houses do. You can replay them again and again whenever you want to get the power ups.

[lapis bough]

2 custom backgrounds. the second one isnt animated yet (i know how i can animate it but i dont know from which bg slot i'll replace the animation)

i should probably try reimporting the beach one with nitro paint tho, it suffered from nsmbe compression

[zinc rivet]

The second one is better

[lapis bough]

im gonna use both actually

[zinc rivet]

Oh oki

[lapis bough]

first one is for the beach levels, second one is for the waterfall cliffs levels

[lone jetty]

The second one looks good, the clouds in the first background have a bit of bad quality

[lapis bough]

yea they got compressed

[lapis bough]

nsmbe compression is a common disease among custom nsmb backgrounds. it can be dangerous sometimes, but we recently found a cure: nitro paint

[zinc rivet]

Im a sucker for cliff levels

I love it

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

( i think yall already noticed how i like cliff stuff by ssmb, everyworld is cliffs)

[lapis bough]

wait true lol

[zinc rivet]

Yw! Its really beautiful 🙂

[lapis bough]

its basically a recolored volcano background from the base game

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

and tweaked a bit to remove the weird red glow

[zinc rivet]

This world reminds me of the dkc returns petroil world

[lapis bough]

just noting this here as a reminder:
make a reference to 1-2 from smb3 in one of the levels

[lapis bough]

actually i dont even think i need to do that, 1-3 has some similar structures inspired from smb3 1-2. tho still noting it here

[lapis bough]

Here's what code hacks I want to be made for the hack:

• enpg cutscenes
• Super Leaf power-up
• Resizable lifts on tracks
• Custom boss
• Custom enemy
• Custom final boss

[cursive sorrel]

which bosses do you want to be custom?

[junior junco]

The lifts are very easy

[cursive sorrel]

semi or last ones or all?

[zinc rivet]

I have the model for the head and tail of super leaf if you want

[lapis bough]

oh yea also that's what i actually want to try to do. i wanna try to learn to make code hacks and make those

-# i should probably have kept the surprise or not have said anything so there aren't high expectations tho

[cursive sorrel]

Waiting for my tutorial I guess which I will probably work on after lsmb release lol 🐒

[lapis bough]

tho for the bosses, there's at least one that is supposed to be fully custom

[lone jetty]

I would be interested in the ENPG cutscenes too, the Leaf powerup sounds a bit complicated, but the rest seems manageable

Tho, I probably shouldn't be the one talking since I can't code

[cursive sorrel]

I mean everybody expects custom bosses from a big hack like yours

not such a big suprise tbh

[lapis bough]

i mean it wasn't planned until recently

[junior junco]

The expectations for bosses in new++ is so high, I need to rewrite all of mine at some point so they can meet people’s expectations

[lapis bough]

dang :/

[cursive sorrel]

chill

take it easy

Having a custom boss is already a cool experience for the player

[zinc rivet]

Dont demand a lot from yourself just to satisfy what others think about your mod, your game is very good

[lapis bough]

because of that tho, expect me to ask a lot of questions related to coding

[strange jackal]

i mean the enpg cutscenes, remember i sent that fake peach enpg cutscene

[lapis bough]

yea

it's something like that

i mean if you wanna share it, feel free to

[strange jackal]

that script only does it at the end of world 1-castle

idk how i can do the other worlds

but i could give you

[zinc rivet]

4 players koopalings 3 layers yoshi code hack para android free

[lapis bough]

my goal is to have it at the end of the hack's development, whether it's made by you, or anyone else

[junior junco]

I plan on writing something similar, I share it when I done

[lapis bough]

okay

[junior junco]

if you want to see how actors are set up you can look at the new++ github page for two examples

[lapis bough]

that could be nice, thanks!

[lapis bough]

Level idea: Amps tower. you can defeat some of them with the 8-6 "mario bros" platforms
edit: doesn't work :/

[lone jetty]

Rip

But you can still kill them if you place a brick or block below them and hit it

[lapis bough]

Illy said that it was caused by the code hack, thats why

i havent actually tested myself

[lone jetty]

Which code hack?

[lapis bough]

the moving amps

or on tracks

[lone jetty]

Did you import the moving amps on your hack?

[lapis bough]

no

[lone jetty]

Are you aware that I'm replying to this?

[lapis bough]

i did not import it

[lapis bough]

what else would you be responding to?

im confused

your last message confused me

why are you saying that in the first place?

[lone jetty]

• You said you wanted to make a level with Amps that you can kill with the "bump from below platform" and realized it doesn't work
• I suggested you can also kill them with blocks and bricks if that helps
• You said it was because of Illy's code hack (which you didn't even import because you must surely got confused and thought I was talking about Illy's moving Amps)

[lapis bough]

#1142029407729483846 message

should be self-explanatory

read the short conversation below as well

[lone jetty]

#1142029407729483846 message eh, I don't think it's because of the code hack, you can also do that in the original game

[lapis bough]

does it really work?

[lone jetty]

Ten thousand years trying to send this fucking video

[zinc rivet]

Fake

[lapis bough]

ohh okay

[lone jetty]

No

[lapis bough]

well yea i can try this then

[lone jetty]

Try it in a vanilla rom

[lapis bough]

thanks

[junior junco]

wait what, i tested it with normal amps and it didnt work

[lapis bough]

weird

[lone jetty]

Maybe you could have messed up something when making the code (?)

[lapis bough]

currently no progress being done because i'm transferring the data from my computer to a new one (i'm switching computers). and it's taking a whiiiile....

[junior junco]

Can u put the ssd from that computer into ur new one?

[lapis bough]

i think