NSMB: The Rainbow Quest

[lapis bough]

but the player can save at anytime, and i place quite a few power ups in harder levels, so i guess this compensates

[lone jetty]

That's why I wanna "nerf" most of them

[lapis bough]

they dont seem that hard imo tho, but yeah lol

[lapis bough]

i should probably do that too

2-3 is alright tho in terms of difficulty i think

[lone jetty]

They are harder when you play them

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

I wanted to redo 2-3 from my hack cuz I was testing it and I was getting frustrated while playing it, lol

[lapis bough]

oh alr

[lone jetty]

Well, your levels don't seem so hard at all from what I've watched

[lapis bough]

the thing is that i feel like i reached w8 difficulty from the original game in 1-

[lapis bough]

yeah i think you're right

but 2-3 feels harder

to give you an idea, i think 1-(the second half) is harder than 2-3

[junior junco]

felt lol, look at this jump, and you have to do this with low grav, its so tight

[lapis bough]

holy

its becoming a kaizo hack at this point lol

[lone jetty]

Maybe adding an extra 16x16 block could help XD

[lapis bough]

but doesnt seem that hard with low gravity

[junior junco]

I felt nice so I didnt put a lava bubble there lol

[lone jetty]

Oh, I didn't notice the Junior statue, I love it

[lapis bough]

wait can you wall-jump with low gravity

[junior junco]

it makes it worse because you cant wall jump and you cant jump every frame

[lapis bough]

dang

[sour kettle]

feel like the twirl would help with the jump a fair bit

[lapis bough]

yea probably

[junior junco]

the spin jump can only be used when you are falling lol, if you bonk the celling you are dead

[lapis bough]

guess the best way to pass this is with the parashell

[junior junco]

the lava bubbles are there so you lose your shell lol

because they cant be destroyed by a shell

[lapis bough]

wdym

cant you pass through without getting damage? or release the power up later?

[junior junco]

you can but the point is that you are probably not gonna have a spare power up lol, the difficulty of new++ is meant to be hard

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

Well, watching this in retrospective yeah, looks hard, the only safe way I can think of going through here in doing a jump while crouching and getting enough speed

[sour kettle]

tap jump->twirl->walljump

[lone jetty]

Pretty sure you can't walljump on low gravity levels

[lapis bough]

yea you cant

[sour kettle]

oh you are correct and i cannot read

[lapis bough]

^

about the rainbow star, i realized that the most shown color seems to be random every time. might have to do with how much time has passed since you enter the area, and could be the same rainbow effect as starman mario/luigi

[lone jetty]

Speaking about that, there's a sunshine model on NSMBHD, but it's meant to replace Star Coins, I dunno if it's compatible with the boss keys

[lapis bough]

idk but since they're both static models, it could work

[sour kettle]

its the same as the star invincibility effect yeah

[lapis bough]

ok

[lapis bough]

thinking about it, i kinda nerfed the caslte level while creating it. i feel like its not that hard now, you just gotta be careful in some segments of the level

[lapis bough]

i gotchu, i know exactly what to use

[sour kettle]

what theme are ya gonna use

[lapis bough]

i think i already sent them

so i'll just link the messages

Tower levels:
#1208478549380431872 message
Bosses:
#1208478549380431872 message

[sour kettle]

ah gotcha

[lapis bough]

thinking about it i should have made progress on it today, if only i thought about it...

[lapis bough]

TIME TO OVERLOAD THE ROM WITH NWAV FILES :DD

i added 3 songs and it went from 63mb to almost 85mb ☠️

testing them

[zinc rivet]

YEY

[zinc rivet]

My rom having 6 nwavs but having 153 mb:

[lapis bough]

dang

make sure you cut the part that is looped in the original audio file

[lapis bough]

alright so:
the tower theme is too quiet
the boss themes are too loud

[lapis bough]

fixed i guess

there's a problem with Nitro WAV itself tho. sometimes, when the same music starts playing twice, in the original game it simply continues the music, but with Nitro WAV songs, it restarts the music, which can be pretty weird

for example when you go from a view to another, with the same music, using a warp controller (havent tested with entrances yet)

or when the bowser jr fight starts, and that the music of the view is already set to "15 bowser jr"

[lone jetty]

Why do you repeat the exact same messages here and in #nsmb-chat? lmao

[lapis bough]

i say it here to show what ive found by testing my hack. i say it in #nsmb-chat in hope that the issue gets fixed

[lapis bough]

at this rate my rom is gonna be 200mb at the end

keep in mind that i try to save space already

[lone jetty]

There should be a way to optimize the space, shouldn't it?

Like making the songs less heavy

[lapis bough]

with nwav its hard

you can either decrease their quality, and/or cut the parts you dont hear after the loop

i do the latter already

SONGS for Future Reference

i cant pin messages (even in my own post) so i write "future reference" to find them easily with the search feature

i have about 15 more songs to add, and estimating that they are in average about 7mb each, we get 105mb more ☠️ 😭 (nwav i mean)

i think some levels will have exclusive songs

im thinking about 4-, 6-2, and 8- for example

and a bunch of songs will probably only get used in 2 or 3 levels on average

[lone jetty]

I noticed you're gonna use the "Dire Dire Docks" theme for Underwater levels, are you going to use the sseq that Asprök made? Because I'm using it in my hack but I can use another song if you want

[lapis bough]

at first i thought about this one, but im still uncertain about using this one or the one made by The Noble Demon (which i'll convert into nwav)

either way dont change it only because im using it

its probably used in at least 3 other hacks anyway

[lone jetty]

Yeah, I wish I knew how to make sseq's

[lapis bough]

its complicated as hell

[lone jetty]

I already have all of the soundtrack for my hack figured out and I don't want to use songs that have been overused in ten thousand hacks

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

I know, I wish it was easier

[lapis bough]

this is why i switched to nwav, more possibilities (+ you can still use sseq files)

this was my best attempt, after several hours and trying to replace an existing midi file:
#nsmb-showcase message

wait its better if i copy the link of the file directly

~~https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078818558991138888/1099404614085910608/SML2_Athletic4_by_Alluro95_NSMBDS.wav?ex=665b6b55&is=665a19d5&hm=cd91d1de923539ad07d89d2bb2d277634918d7af37659c87ca77d6c2cc8f2961&~~

ok no bad idea, it doesnt work as expected

[lone jetty]

The song doesn't sound bad, actually, it sounds cool, my only complaint is that it needs a percussion

[lapis bough]

whoops wrong one

[lapis bough]

there was one but it sounded weird

and then there's this that i use in my hack with nwav

[lapis bough]

i got an idea for animated waterfalls

for w3 of my hack

which is using the underground tileset (slot 3) which has one animated tile

guess i can use this

[zinc rivet]

Wait, wich tile?

I didn't know that it had a animated file

[lapis bough]

one sparkle for ice i think

pretty sure we talked about it not so long ago

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh

I didn't know about this

[lapis bough]

here:
#nsmb-chat message

[sour kettle]

the problem with that is the palettes dont cycle

they just go back and forth at random pretty much

[lapis bough]

oh :/

[sour kettle]

yeah i was disappointed when i found out you cant really do anything with it too

i even tried to get the bg to use the palette so i could try to make lightning or smthn

[lapis bough]

dang

[lapis bough]

i should really record 1-Castle (yes its finished)

[lone jetty]

Lesssgo

[lapis bough]

it was finished before i sent this i think

[lapis bough]

tomorrow i guess

[lapis bough]

Tomorrow indeed

i recorded the footage, i just gotta reassemble it in an editing software

[lone jetty]

Today ☝️ 🤓

[lone jetty]

Alright

[lapis bough]

no but the tomorrow of what i said yesterday 😭

[lone jetty]

But we are not in yesterday anymore, so the tomorrow of yesterdy is today now 🤓

[lapis bough]

exporting

then i'll make the thumbnail

[lone jetty]

That was fast, lol

[lapis bough]

probably one of the best levels ive made so far

[lapis bough]

i just had to open the files in the video editor. it put the recordings one after the other automatically

exported

time for the thumbnail!

[lone jetty]

Let me guess, you used AVI recording and it splitted the video, it happened to me several times

[lapis bough]

yes

it happens once the recording goes beyond 2 minutes

i need to find a name for the level :p

[lone jetty]

Goomba Castle

Nah, just kidding, lol

[lapis bough]

maybe "Twomp Castle" but its a bit too generic

(yes the main gimmicks are twomps, and those metallic tilting platforms)

Maybe Twomps Fortress or smth

yeah i'll call it like that

its "Thwomp" apparently, there's an "h"

got confused with "Whomps" and told myself that "whomp" has an h and not the other one

my life has been a lie

Thumbnail done!

i used the template i made earlier

[zinc rivet]

I want to see this level, it looks cool!

[lapis bough]

im uploading the video

LMAO the length of the video is the exact same as the 2-3 video

https://youtu.be/MG90XZgOkRQ

[zinc rivet]

FAREH EN DAH HOLE

[lapis bough]

lmaooo yes

so what do you think?

about the level

[lone jetty]

I was having lunch, I'm gonna watch the video rn

[lapis bough]

alright

[lone jetty]

Nice level! The design looks nice and clean, and the level itself looks fun, I also love how the second half of the level is outside the castle, and the boss area is also cool, great work!

FAYAH IN DA HOL!

[lapis bough]

Thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

I liked it, level desing is cool, looks fun to play

[lapis bough]

It was highly inspired by my old hack, even the idea of twomps and going outside the castle

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

(Yeah, it makes the level even bester)

[lapis bough]

lmao

[lapis bough]

🔥🕳️

[zinc rivet]

But yeah, the level looks cool, i liked the song in the bossfight too

[lapis bough]

thanks! its the "Koopa Bros" theme from Paper Mario 64

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

Also... Notice anything similar?

[maiden leaf]

Oh yeah thought it seemed familiar

Good level

[lapis bough]

Thanks!!

[sour kettle]

looks like a good first castle

i particularly like the last starcoin

the aesthetic is also solid

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

what level do i work on next?

[lone jetty]

6-Cannon

[lapis bough]

lmao

well im not sure what gimmick to work on. if i find that, i might know what level to do

[zinc rivet]

Whats about 8-A?

Ok i will stop with bad jokes

Whats about a w6/3 level?

[lapis bough]

could be interesting

keep in mind world 6 is skyscrapers

wait i could work on making a tileset for that

there's a specific level in world 7 which i plan to make, and which should be highly inspired by nsmbwii 1-5

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhhh

[lapis bough]

oh also i wanna add some sky ruins in world 7

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh cool

[lapis bough]

something like those two

i might make the tileset myself for this one

[zinc rivet]

Do something like both, it would be unique

[lapis bough]

yea

the second one is actually my level. i plan to put a bunch of references to it in my hack

[zinc rivet]

Cool

The level looks fun tbh

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Yw 🙂

[lone jetty]

I really like how you take inspiration from GD for your levels

[lapis bough]

thanks! i havent done it yet tho

[lone jetty]

It's fine, take your time

[lapis bough]

no i mean i didnt take inspiration from them yet

[lapis bough]

i might start making the city tileset later today

[lapis bough]

im probably gonna modify the jyotyu stuff as well

ive been thinking about changing the world 7 theme into "sky ruins", instead of "near-space clouds", i think it could be better

i still plan to put one or two space levels though

i also thought about maybe adding "lush caves" with orange rocks. idk this idea randomly came to my mind when i was working on a gd level lmao

but it might only be a single level or something, maybe in world 7 if i use the idea of sky ruins

i got so many ideas lmao

maybe world 4 could be an enchanted forest, with purple trees as well, and having like 2-3 levels where there are regular trees

the purple trees are inspired by Explorers

[junior junco]

felt there are so many things I want to do like a mushroom forsest thats all blue but the art would take so long

[lapis bough]

dang, seems interesting tho

in world 3 i wanna make a level inspired by this (see image) but also with waterfalls

[lapis bough]

Alright i have goals of stuff i HAVE to finish today:

• make at least half of the skyscrapers/construction site tileset
• import 2 themes into nwav (lost kingdom and sky)
• finding out what next levels i will work on
• something else, idk

[lone jetty]

Alright, good luck on it

As an advice, if you don't know which level to make, think about all the levels you would like to make and choose the one you most want to edit

[lapis bough]

alright, thanks :)

[lone jetty]

No problem

[lapis bough]

working on the city tileset. here's what i got so far. I extracted the texutres from the trampoline minigame and modified them a bit, and placed them here

[lone jetty]

Oh nice, that's creative

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

then i'll make the actual city stuff. i plan to reuse some of the assets of the city tileset, for the "steam gardens" tileset

why the hell did i say "beach tileset" lol

[lone jetty]

No problem, lol

I made a city tileset for crook's hack ages ago

[lapis bough]

oh nice

[lapis bough]

can i steal it?

[lone jetty]

Maybe you can get some inspiration from here

[lapis bough]

yeah

there's some cool stuff from there

[lone jetty]

I'd like to give it to you, but crook would get angry at me

[lapis bough]

wait i just remembered about those "traffic lights question blocks"

[lapis bough]

its alright lol, i wanted to make my own anyway

[lone jetty]

Alright

I could always ask him if you want

[lapis bough]

i guess

but i have specific ideas in mind

[lone jetty]

Oh ok

[lapis bough]

im trying to make it look similar to new donk city

[lone jetty]

The "Jump Up Superstar" theme started playing in mah head right after you mentioned it, lol

[lapis bough]

lol

i also planned to make a level with the "jump up super star" theme

and it would have been some donkey-kong like gameplay, just like in mario odyssey

[lone jetty]

Nice

Could probably use the spike ball remodel code hack to replace them by barrels

[lapis bough]

yeah i thought about that too

thanks tho

[lone jetty]

Np

[lapis bough]

drawing some stuff from scratch

im using this image as a reference

[lone jetty]

Nice

[zinc rivet]

Yoooo cool

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

i dont have time rn, but when i will have time, i'll add windows and other kind of walls

and ofc i'll use 4 palettes

i think

but there's no reason not to do so

[lone jetty]

I think you'll figure that out once you finish the tileset

Using 4 palettes isn't always the best choice, since sometimes it happened to me that using 4 palettes just made the tileset quality worse

[lapis bough]

i think i'll use 4 palettes tho because i wanna have more than 2 colors of different stuff, and also have darker variations for the rain level(s)

[lapis bough]

i came back home and managed to draw like, 2 more tiles

dang this is slow...

[lapis bough]

im afraid that the tileset looks way too hand-drawn, and that it wont match the aesthetic of the rest of the hack

also for now, it doesnt make sense what are the tiles for, but later it will. thats because im optimizing them so it takes as little space as possible in the graphics map

[lone jetty]

Seems fine to me, maybe you could try adding a few more pixels with different color variations so it doesn't look too retro

[lapis bough]

seems complicated and i feel like it will take 3 more hours

but maybe i will

[lapis bough]

i dont have motivation anymore to work on it for now. please tell me what do you think

[lone jetty]

Looks nice so far

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i think i'll keep it like that, with the hand-drawn style, i dont have the motivation to make it look more detailed or anything

[lapis bough]

i added tiles from the airship tileset in mario maker. i'll continue it later

[lapis bough]

wait i can add noise

slightly, so it randomizes the colors a bit more

[lapis bough]

added a bit more stuff

[zinc rivet]

Yooooo cool!!!!

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

You're welcome 🙂

[lapis bough]

alright so here are a few levels that i wanna make and that i have ideas for:

• 6-2
• 1-A
• 2-
• 4-
• 1-
• 3-
• 5-
• 5-1
• 3-3
• 7-2
• 6-
• 1-4
• 2-4
• 8-7
• 8-3
• an airship level
• 7-

now i guess i gotta choose from one of them

stop looking at me castle icon

[lone jetty]

Holy crap, that's a long list

[lapis bough]

yea lol

[lone jetty]

[lapis bough]

thats all of the levels i have a somewhat clear idea of what they could be, and what gimmick they would use

might need to make a tileset for world 3 and world 4

i have one for world 5 (needs slight adjustments) and im making one for world 6

i also need one for world 7. i have one for world 8 tho

wait lemme rewrite that in a single, more clear, message

[lone jetty]

Glad to see some more progress on this hack

[zinc rivet]

Same!

[lapis bough]

World tilesets made already:
World 1, 2, 5, 8 (some need adjustments

World tilesets that still need to be made:
World 3, 4, 6 (half-finished), 7

[lapis bough]

i literally didnt make any progress on it after the 1- video, apart from the w6 tileset 😭

[lapis bough]

i imported 2 songs and now my rom is 107 MB 😭

time to test them

[zinc rivet]

My rom is 208 😭

[lapis bough]

lmaooo

[lapis bough]

still working on that tileset

rn im doing probably the last thing of the tileset: some sort of electronic billboard where we see skyscrapers and the name of the city "koopa skyscrapers"

[lone jetty]

That's the power of NitroWAV

[lone jetty]

You could probably include some stop signs, traffic lights and other stuff

[lapis bough]

lmaoo

[lapis bough]

i put traffic lights, but didnt think about stop signs, thanks!!

[lone jetty]

There's a lot of stuff you could include on a city tileset

[lapis bough]

true

but im not sure what

[lone jetty]

No problem ;)

[lapis bough]

so for now i'll finish the electronic billboard and add the stop sign, and then i'll import it, as a first version

also im doing color variations for some stuff, including a darker palette for rainy levels

CRAP i just realized that i have to make a city background too 😭

[lone jetty]

If you still don't know what to include in your city tileset you could always take a look at the tileset I sent previously and use it as a reference

I also made a different version for that tileset ages ago

||I should definitely ask crook if I can share these with you ||

[lapis bough]

trees could work as well, yea

[lapis bough]

its alright lol

anyway, i just made the graphics for the billboard thing (almost done actually, i still have to make the lights around it)

rn i have smth to do but when i can, i'll add the stop sign and do color variation stuff

and then import it

[lapis bough]

alright i'll add a tree, probably the mario kart 64 tree (inspired by this)

[lone jetty]

The one used in that tileset is from MKDS though

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

In fact, most objects from that tileset are adapted textures from MKDS

[lapis bough]

ohh alr

still, i wanted to use the mk64 tree

[lone jetty]

Some others are downscaled PNG's from Google xd

[lapis bough]

or the prerelease sm64 tree that looks like some trees from mk64

hesitating between those two

[lone jetty]

Oh, I didn't know there was an unused SM64 tree

[lapis bough]

its not present in the final game tho

it was leaked

[lone jetty]

It's kinda cool to see these kind of unused/scrapped content from videogames

[lapis bough]

i just downloaded 2 others and now im hesitating between the 4 of them 😭

[lapis bough]

yea its very interesting

[lone jetty]

I was casually taking a peek at some pages from tcrf

[lapis bough]

sometimes i spend hours reading about that kind of stuff on tcrf

[lone jetty]

I saw some unused minigame faces that are really hilarious lmao

[lapis bough]

lol

in what game tho

[lone jetty]

~~Give them to me 😈 ~~

[lapis bough]

i guess lol

i mean they are easy to find anyway but whatever

the third one (the 4th one has bad quality)

[lone jetty]

There are some unused face icons from the "Wanted" minigame, they are the same ones from the final game but SMB3-Styled

[lapis bough]

ohh ok

i think they were discovered quite recently tho

[lone jetty]

Honestly, I'm too bad at finding these kind of stuff but it's actually really useful, I hope you won't mind if I use this

[lapis bough]

because i dont remember seeing them during the multiple times ive checked the pages for nsmb and sm64ds, except for the last time that i did

[lapis bough]

well here you go i guess:

[lone jetty]

These ones

Apparently they are also unused in SM64DS

[lapis bough]

yea they look pretty cool imo

[lapis bough]

yea

[lone jetty]

They look funny, lol

[lapis bough]

i dont really find them funny except for wario, but they look good

[lone jetty]

yeah, the last one has a bit of bad quality, but thanks anyway

[lapis bough]

yw

[lone jetty]

Yeah, they look fine imo, it's Wario who looks really weird

[lapis bough]

thats the quality it originally was (technically they all have the same quality/resolution tho)

[lapis bough]

yea

but wario always looked weird anyway

[lone jetty]

Ye

[lone jetty]

If you want my honest opinion about these two, I'd choose the right one, the left one looks a bit out of place imo

[lapis bough]

im choosing this one actually

• i can mirror it (mostly)

[lone jetty]

Alright

[zinc rivet]

B3313 have those, sm64 also have a unused bonsai (it also is on b3313)

[lapis bough]

yea true

i dont remember the bonsai tho

[zinc rivet]

I will try to find a level with those

[lapis bough]

this one?
https://tcrf.net/File:SM64_tree04_txt.png

https://tcrf.net/images/6/6d/SM64_tree04_txt.png

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

AAAAAHHHHH

Plus a random corruption

[lapis bough]

rip lol

also i got 201 stars

[lone jetty]

||Time to steal it ||

[lapis bough]

its not mine

[zinc rivet]

~~Time to steal it from @lone jetty ~~

BRUHHH

I HATE DISCORD

Done

[lone jetty]

Was the ping necessary? :/

[lapis bough]

almost done with the tileset :)

i spent 2 days on it pls i need hepl

well i think its done for now (screenshot so nobody steals it)

the 2 palettes on the bottom are the night/rain variation

[lone jetty]

Looks nice

Good work

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

do you think there's something i should add?

[lone jetty]

Hmmm, I don't think so, but I see you have a lot of space left, I guess you could add more stuff eventually if you want

[lapis bough]

i'll probably do the tiling tomorrow because its midnight and i wanna do other stuff rn like playing a game

[lapis bough]

alright

i think i optimized space a bit too much lol

also thanks

[lone jetty]

No problem

[lapis bough]

OH WAIT i can add a taxi, like i planned earlier

[zinc rivet]

YOOOOO

[lapis bough]

not sure where i'll find a good quality smodyssey taxi tho

[zinc rivet]

Good idea

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

You could try watching some smo gameplays on yt and try to print the taxi in a cool angle for rip it

[lapis bough]

sounds like torture

might as well use this image instead

its on The Models Resource

[lone jetty]

I feel like it'll lose a lot of quality when downscaled

[lapis bough]

(from mario odyssey, yes)

[lapis bough]

yea true

but idk if it will be much of a problem or not

[lone jetty]

Usually downscaled graphics tend to look terrible when imported on NSMBe

[lapis bough]

depends of the kind of downscale tho

some will look terrible, and some will be completely unrecognizable lol

[zinc rivet]

Wait let me try something for make the quality dont get too horrible

[lapis bough]

i got this i guess

[zinc rivet]

Whats about this size?

[lone jetty]

Doesn't look bad

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh looks good!!!

[lapis bough]

not sure i'll add it tho, it feels kind of unnecessary, and if i had to give it a logical size, there wouldnt be enough space on the tileset

[lapis bough]

oh nice

this size as well, but as i said, i dont think i'll add it

[lapis bough]

NOOOO i forgot to add those few airship tiles

Reminder for tomorrow: Add those freaking airship tiles

[lapis bough]

or else...

[lone jetty]

Do you want me to say it?

[lapis bough]

say what

[lone jetty]

Reminder, or else....

[lapis bough]

i guess lol

[lone jetty]

||kjsakdsanclied||

[lapis bough]

DANG BAD WIFI, messages dont get sent half the time

or is it discord bugging again?

sounds like an english verb

[lone jetty]

Man, this is happening to me as well, lol

I'm pretty sure it's a Discord bug

[lapis bough]

my friend too

discord problem then i guess

[lone jetty]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

REMINDER

[lone jetty]

This message was sent ten years ago

[lapis bough]

lol

[strange jackal]

bruh mine is 4.1GB because i added the shrek movie 4K in it with everyfile explorer

[lapis bough]

lmao

[lone jetty]

Friendly reminder to add those "freaking" airship tiles

[lapis bough]

lmao

cant use my pc atm tho :p

[scarlet mulch]

The funniest thing is that it takes up more than the heaviest 3DS game (4GB)

[lapis bough]

lol

[lapis bough]

i have an important exam this friday and i probably wont be able to work on the hack (or a tiny bit) until then

[lone jetty]

I wish you the bester of lucks

[lapis bough]

thanks :D

[lone jetty]

Anytime

[lapis bough]

oh btw here are the tiles that ive made from scratch in the tileset (circled in red)

[lapis bough]

i will add those freaking airship tiles

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[junior junco]

If u don’t add them today I’ll ban u/j

[zinc rivet]

He need to add the freaking airhsip tiles today, otherwise:

[lapis bough]

im adding them rn lol

i wanted to do it in like 15 minutes but i will keep thinking about it so better do it now

[zinc rivet]

(What are the freaking airship tiles? Im dumb)

[junior junco]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-wait-till-the-end-time-countdown-digital-clock-gif-17173022

Tic tok

But the timer never hits 0 so u won’t be banned

[lone jetty]

I thought you already added em

[zinc rivet]

[lapis bough]

i didnt have time yesterday :/

the thing is that now i gotta resize them and such :/

[zinc rivet]

The timer is only 10 seconds, since when it hits 9:50 it returns to 10 (10 = 0)

[sour kettle]

bester you have 10 seconds to add those airship tiles

[lone jetty]

You already know what this means

||kjsakdsancli||

[zinc rivet]

[lapis bough]

also i said im adding them but im also modifying them a bit and adding 6 color variations

[junior junco]

Live bester reaction

[lapis bough]

lmao

[zinc rivet]

Lmaooo

[lapis bough]

done!!

i modified them a bit and made 5 other color variations

[lone jetty]

Noice

[lapis bough]

thanks

in case you dont see them, thats the tiles i added (circled in red)

i took more time than expected :p

but im happy of the result so whatever

anyone has an idea of how to fix the meromero's custom signboards code hack in the new template? (note: its supposed to be a blue pipe)

[lone jetty]

I'm not an expert on that, but:

1.- Are you sure it's converted properly
2.- MeroMero made a specific editor for that, what if a new editor should be created? Since it's adapted to NCPatcher, maybe it's some compatibility shit or something, idk

[lapis bough]

1. not sure but it should be. i dont get errors and the hooks have been changed. but converting it to the new template could possibly be the problem
2. yes i used it

if i have time later today i'll try importing the tileset

[junior junco]

That code hack is written like a fart in a jar, the easiest way imo is to make an actor which loads a pipe model and use that, I plan on making an actor just for loading models at some point

[lapis bough]

alright lmao

so did it somehow break when converting it into ncpatcher?

that custom actor you plan to make seems nice tho

[lapis bough]

i just got the idea of making a nighttime variation for the billboard (what is shown on it)

[lapis bough]

tomorrow is the exam, i have sleeping problems and it's currently almost 4 am and im still awake :/ but whatever

[lone jetty]

Damn :(

[lapis bough]

its alright its not the first time that it happens, but its annoying. though im not afraid about falling asleep. usually when that happens i can stay awake

[lone jetty]

Yeah, it's really annoying when you can't sleep when you most need it

I also haven't been having good sleep these last days

[lapis bough]

ive been sleeping at 3-4 am during the past week...

[lapis bough]

somehow my latest video (1-) is getting more views than my usual nsmb videos

not THAT much more but still, im quite happy about that

[lapis bough]

alright so i imported the city tileset in nsmbe

but i gotta tile it now... its gonna be a pain

[lapis bough]

tiled the tileset

now i gotta do the tile behavior stuff

NOOOO I FORGOT THE BILLBOARDS

[lone jetty]

Lmao

Looks awesome, even better than the city tilesets I made

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[sour kettle]

well its good you remembered before settig the tile behaviours

[lapis bough]

yea

[sour kettle]

that way you can rearrange the tile map if need be

[lapis bough]

yes i rearranged it a bit

alright enough tileset making for now

im making the "objects" but since there are a lot of them to make im taking a break

[lapis bough]

making the "objects"

[lone jetty]

True, there's not much space XD

[lapis bough]

i had to "compress" the stuff from the third and fourth palettes

not using the first 2 rows because of the tile randomization and im not sure what slot to use

but its true that its usually only on the first slot

[sour kettle]

bonus room shouldnt have any randomization

[lapis bough]

yea

but as i said idk what slot to use exactly

[lone jetty]

A useful tip I can give is that you don't have to duplicate a bunch of objects in map16 as you could duplicate them in the object editor

Sometimes

[lapis bough]

yea

[lone jetty]

Yeah, none of both bonus room tilesets have randomization

[lapis bough]

but there are almost no duplicate objects

the very few that i have were because they're the same in both palettes

just realized that i might hit the limit of "objects"

i think one thing that should be good to do is have 2 different tilesets with the same graphics, but only 2 of the 4 palettes get used

[lone jetty]

Yeah, that happened to me once, with my temple tileset, lol, I had to scrap some objects bc I reached the object limit

[lapis bough]

i dont think i need to use the night/dark tiles at the same time as the day/light tiles

[lapis bough]

dang lol

[lone jetty]

I wonder if it's possible to increase the object limit

[lapis bough]

probably requires code hacks

[lone jetty]

Yeah, that could help

[sour kettle]

maybe you could import it over a tileset that has different tile maps n objects between slots

the only one ik does that though is the grasslands one

[lone jetty]

Code hack: You can increase the object limit but you can't use more than 10 objects per level

[lapis bough]

yeah i could do that, but its already used sadly

[lapis bough]

lmao

[sour kettle]

ah gotcha

[lapis bough]

i think its done for the daylight variation of the tileset

apart from 1 or 2 small things that i gotta fix, they work correctly in-game

[lapis bough]

i should send screenshots when i can because i like the way it looks

[lapis bough]

i should really make some screenshots

probably record it but some tiles are a bit buggy so i gotta fix that. and i dont have a proper background yet so im using the "snow mountains" background as a placeholder for now i guess

[lone jetty]

I forgot to mention that I also made a city background for crook's hack a long ago, I may ask him if I can share it with you

[lapis bough]

oh alright

i think ive seen it on the nsmb uploader once

[lapis bough]

i thought about replacing splunkins by "splunshrooms" which are pretty much the same thing but with a green mushroom head instead of the pumpkin

just realized goombas are mushrooms already lol

[lapis bough]

i should really make more progress

maybe i'll showcase the city tileset later today

[lapis bough]

well today i had motivation so here you go: a test level to showcase the city tileset

bg and music are still placeholder

[lone jetty]

Damn, it looks amazing

[lapis bough]

and i'll maybe separate the "rain" and "daylight" vatiations into 2 tilesets

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

the next level i'll make is probably gonna be 6-2

this theme is a banger. might use it for the final castle or ghost house or smth
https://youtu.be/QghWPYiHPw0?si=ldNz2TzN4LjlQgGZ

not for the default castle theme because i wanna keep the original one

i could also extract the theme from the original game

[lapis bough]

i think i still have some minor fixes to do, make a few more kind of tiles, and adding some "puddles" tiles with a water and slippery property

and separate the 2 variations into 2 tilesets

gonna use it for the daytime theme
https://youtu.be/fS3NlqcHvdM?si=mMKOZ-bstHnxQzrj

for the rain theme idk yet

[lapis bough]

City background during the day

City background + rain clouds during night/storm

[lapis bough]

Rain FG effect

[lapis bough]

might use this for the storm levels:
https://youtu.be/OJv9_ASE9TY?si=rmJaTlLWdSjmFM0Y

[lapis bough]

oh also thanks to Mr Ztardust for the background :)

[lapis bough]

did anybody even check this 😭

[lone jetty]

Lol, I was gonna comment here, but I forgor

The city background looks way better than I imagined, and I really liked your rain effect, looks more realistic than mine, lol

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

guess i can give it to you, if you want

i took multiple tries to make it look good

[lapis bough]

and yep the city background looks really cool

i also made a rain variation because why not

[lone jetty]

Yeah, I really liked it

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lone jetty]

It's fine, I was thinking on redrawing mine tbh

[lone jetty]

Np :D

[lapis bough]

alr

also im using a code hack for the rain: it's the snow effect that gets its texture replaced specifically in world 6

[lapis bough]

i thought about making a level that is very similar to the "new donk city festival" (with jump up super star) in my hack, using the song with nwav. but i might have to scrap it, or at least use a cover in the sseq format because:

• there's a bug with the audio looping every time you change views/areas even with the same music
• the music file (nwav) might take too much space on the rom

though i can get around the second problem by using the method i described earlier

[junior junco]

I kinda want to look into fixing that bug

[lapis bough]

oh alright

[loud elm]

ooo noble demon

[lapis bough]

yep

[pallid prism]

That's a nice Bottom Background!

[lapis bough]

if you're talking about the clouds one, its the one from the vanilla game

[lapis bough]

Alright so i imported 5 nwav files into my rom:

• SMRPG Sunken Ship as the Ghost House theme
• SM3DL Snow Mountain as the Snow theme
• SMO New Donk City Daytime for the daytime city theme
• Same theme but cut and slowed down for the World map theme
• New Donk City Nighttime for the nighttime/storm city theme

and now its 145MB

big chungus rom

though they are fire and fit very well, especially the city themes

[lone jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTCyzCAXo2w&pp=ygUXc2lpdmFndW5uZXIgbWV0YWwgd2FyaW8%3D

[lapis bough]

lmaoo

[lapis bough]

almost reached the checkpoint for 6-2

the progress is going pretty fast

wait i'll send a screenshot

of the level in the editor

[lone jetty]

I didn't even know you were working on a level 👀

[lapis bough]

well i started 1 or 2 days ago

and its only today that i did actual progress

[lone jetty]

Ah ok

[lapis bough]

here you go

when you fall down a bit (right edge of the first screenshot), the koopa on the bottom is blue (but with the "stay on ledge" setting, which makes it appear as green because of a bug)

[zinc rivet]

What is the name of this platform?

[lapis bough]

i forgot (and i just turned off my pc)

but it has "lift" in its name

probably "balancing lift" but idk

[zinc rivet]

Oh oki, it can give some cool gimmicks

[lapis bough]

keep in mind that when you place it, it will only be the base (in gray) of the platforms

[lapis bough]

yea i guess

[lone jetty]

Looking really cool and interesting

Tho, I have a few suggestions:

• Try to reduce the amount of coins, there are too many imo
• When placing many coins and there are coin sprites, try to make them all coin sprites, since they have different animations than the jyotyu coins
• I saw a block in front of a layer tileset, what if players break it with a mega mushroom?

[lapis bough]

1. alright
2. alright, its just that i sometimes avoid using them too much because they dont have the same z-layer (when they're in front of enemies for example), and because if you place too much, the game can lag
3. i always forget about the mega mushroom lol. i think i'll still leave the block here tho

[lapis bough]

Preview of 6-2

[zinc rivet]

YOOOOO

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

It's looking really cool Bester, I like it, great work

I really admire your level design

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Fr, his levels are The Bester
Jokes aside, yeah he have a really good and beautiful level desing

[lapis bough]

thanks a lot!

[loud elm]

What’s the music from?

It’s really cool btw

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[loud elm]

Love the jyotyu!

[lapis bough]

Super Mario Odyssey

[loud elm]

Oh right

[lapis bough]

thanks! glad you like it

[loud elm]

Especially the question blocks they’re so cool

[loud elm]

The rainy area

[lapis bough]

thx

i think i got the idea from somewhere else but i cant find where anymore

maybe my memory got mixed up and accidentally created this idea tho

[loud elm]

It reminds me a lot of sml2/smw/sm3dw

[lapis bough]

when they're used blocks?

or in general?

[loud elm]

The overall look reminds me of sm3dw, and the used blocks remind me of sml2 and smw lol

[lapis bough]

oh alright

[lapis bough]

oh forgot to say that the water puddles + their tile behavior were inspired by New Super Hacker Bros/ASMB

[lone jetty]

I knew it, I instantly remmebered both hacks when I saw those water puddles

[lapis bough]

oh alright lol

[maiden leaf]

damnn

very nice ambiance

everything about it looks great

although tbh the puddle particles look a bit janky

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

yea kinda, but i think i'll still keep it tho

[lapis bough]

trying to drawn my own hud numbers

[lone jetty]

Noice

For some reason they give me some sorta "Beta" vibes

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

interesting

[lapis bough]

well i got this

they turned out better than i expected

i think i'll continue graphics editing tomorrow

i wanted to make the world 6 map

[lapis bough]

started modifying textures for the world 6 map. might continue tomorrow

[zinc rivet]

Cool bg!

You could make the ground texture a road

The ground that mario walk i mean

[lapis bough]

wow good idea, thanks!!

though im not sure of how it would look like with the fact that the paths use some sort of gradient

i'll try though

[zinc rivet]

Those can be removed, it would work well i think

[lapis bough]

i guess

but that would probably need a custom world map

[zinc rivet]

I can make one if you want

Custom maps are easy to make

[lapis bough]

i would like to

thanks if you do

[lapis bough]

for you, not for me lol

[zinc rivet]

Yw 🙂

[zinc rivet]

Lmao

[lapis bough]

though you might need me to send you the textures

i think i'll do it tomorrow

[zinc rivet]

Sure

[lapis bough]

because i also need to make the textures

oh also i would probably need you to make some map points for rain levels

still need to decide where the second (and probably third) rain level would be though

[zinc rivet]

Sure, i can do like newer did on w7

[lapis bough]

probably only 2 but potentially a 3rd one

[lapis bough]

alright, thanks

[loud elm]

woah!

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

might try to redo my grassland tileset too... again

i'll keep the same base idea but i'll try to make it look better, and also add/change some decorative tiles

might also try to put flowers on the ground grass tiles themselves, but idk

[lapis bough]

i also think about making an underground tileset, though idk what it could look like

Maybe making it feel like an abandoned mine or something, though it would probably be a bit weird to have a mine for every underground level

but they wont be many underground levels though, at least using this tileset (w2 has desert undergrounds, w6 is the city, w7 is in the sky, and w8 is lava undergrounds)

An abandoned crystal mine could work, i'll probably make it mostly from scratch, just like the city tileset. though i might use the stone/base underground blocks from nsmbwii/nsmb2 and recolor them

(no im NOT gonna steal the newerds tileset)

[junior junco]

also if you do wooden mine platforms, this is what mine look like so u dont make them to simmiler

[lapis bough]

alright

i was planning on reusing the mario maker nsmbu semisolid, but i might try actually making something

[lapis bough]

currently (re)making the grass tileset

i think i'll add flowers on some of the grass patches. could look good

[lone jetty]

Idea, what if you also add some flowers in front of some ground tiles? Kinda like in NSLU grassland tileset

I had this idea for a grassland tileset, but I scrapped it

[lapis bough]

could be nice as well

though that would probably be too much flowers lol

[lone jetty]

Not necessarily

You could add at least 3 ground tiles with flowers

[lapis bough]

probably

[lapis bough]

working on it

ignore the wrongly placed tiles on the top-right, im copy-pasting them in the rest of the tileset

[lone jetty]

Nice, it's looking much better than the previous one!

How did you add that star in the ground tho?

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

i took a star texture from nsmbwii, removed the outline, then set the brightness to 0, then copy-pasted it and rotated it, 3 times, and on the layer that i did this (because i did this for its own layer) i set the opacity to 128 (max value is 255, so its the equivalent of 50%)

More progress (i spent too much time on this... but im almost done)

[lone jetty]

Nice, I like that hill with eyes

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

its the last thing that i added. i wasnt sure (im still not so sure) if it looks good or not

[lone jetty]

I personally think it looks nice

Tho, I think you would have to dedicate a whole palette for it, since it seems to have too many colors

[lapis bough]

it used the same colors as the bush

in fact i copied the bush and applied some sort of blur effect

i'll try reducing the colors though

[lone jetty]

Damn, you seem to be expert on these color stuff XD

[lapis bough]

kinda i guess lol

[lapis bough]

well i think im done for the graphics

lets hope nsmbe doesnt compress the colors :/

[lone jetty]

Let's hope so 🙏

I'm almost done with my grassland tileset too, and I honestly think I did my best optimizing colors, I kinda would like to add more stuff but I'm affraid of screwing the tileset

[lapis bough]

lmao i accidentally exported the background

[lone jetty]

Wish we could make 8-Palette tilesets 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[lapis bough]

could be cool i guess

[zinc rivet]

OMG ITS EXCELENT!

[lapis bough]

oh thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

I hate when i acidentally let my phone fall at my face lmao

[lapis bough]

lol

it did not break!!!

the colors look a bit compressed tho (at least now)

wait i think i know why

[lapis bough]

the tileset has a few issues/downgrades compared to the original:

• the 4x1 slopes have been removed because they were taking up a lot of tiles
• the "inner" tiles of the ground dont connect properly (they mostly did in the original one) ✅
• the colors are less vivid ✅

so i guess i'll work on that tomorrow or smth

[lapis bough]

idk if its a good idea at all, but it might be a good thing to try to redraw, or at least modify, the "inner ground" texture, so each tile can connect to each other

or i'll just reuse the old ones because they seem to connect pretty well (its the same ones, just placed differently

[lapis bough]

currently trying to add the 4x1 slope and the background tiles behind slopes

the rest was easy because i simply reused the pattern of an old pdn file (paint.net file) of the previous version of the tileset (both the color and pattern

[zinc rivet]

What is 4x1

[lapis bough]

this

i added it, i gotta do the background stuff and retile some stuff because of the limited tiles

[zinc rivet]

Ohh oki

[lapis bough]

i'll continue when i get back home

its almost done, just gotta do some copy-pasting with background blocks and slopes

and yes im glad that i have enough space left for bg tiles with slopes (though i had to remove some deco that also caused color compression)

[lapis bough]

i think im finally done with the graphics

[lone jetty]

Noice, you followed my advice of putting flowers on the ground

[lapis bough]

yep

[lapis bough]

i did it here too tho

[lone jetty]

Ah, I'm dumb

[lapis bough]

color-wise, the tileset in nsmbe looks pretty good rn, except that the flowers look kinda compressed

[lapis bough]

almost fully finished (adding the last few objects)

Done!!!

[lone jetty]

Amazing

[lapis bough]

Thanks!!!

[lapis bough]

A few screenshots, to show what it looks like in-game

[lone jetty]

Looks really beautiful

[lapis bough]

Thanks!!

[lone jetty]

I really like those hills

Remind me of SMB3

[lapis bough]

yea i got inspired by smb3

thanks again

[lone jetty]

Np :)

Did you make those hills yourself?

[lapis bough]

when i finished placing what i needed in the tileset, i felt like it was missing one decorative piece, so i searched for "mario grassland tileset" to get some inspiration, and some images had hills, so i decided to add them

[lapis bough]

yes

i took 4 of the bush tiles (16x16 tiles) and copy-pasted them, then applied blur on them. after that, i also made the shape of the hill, separately, with the "shapes" (i used a circle and a rectangle. then, i applied a "Bevel" effect on the new shape (the effect had an option to only keep the bevel, so i chose that) and did the same again on another layer, but with another angle. then i manually added eyes

oh and i "cut" the bush texture to give it the shape of the hill

[lone jetty]

Interesting

[lapis bough]

hey its my word (i say "interesting" quite a lot i think)

thanks

[lone jetty]

Oh ok

[lapis bough]

oh also, idk if i said it already, but i'll rename World 7 from "Near-space Clouds" to "Near-space Ruins", because there will be sky ruins

[lapis bough]

i just realized that there's a small tiling error in the second screenshot

probably gonna fix it tomorrow

[strange jackal]

4x1=4

[zinc rivet]

True

[lapis bough]

i found a reference to nsmb the lost sequel

(the title of the video)

[zinc rivet]

OMG 😱 😱 😱

[lapis bough]

lol

[green ridge]

You adding world 9?

[lapis bough]

1. ping reply
2. no, why? why did you think that i would?

[green ridge]

1. I thought I was just replying not pinging as well (I don’t use discord often)
2. I’m looking for a ds rom hack that adds W9

So uh my bad

[lone jetty]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you won't find any hack here that adds world 9, that's really difficlt to do and requieres a lot of coding knowldedfe, only a few people have tried it and the ones who did ended up giving up

[lapis bough]

Illy's hack could potentially have a sorta-world 9, but it would be at the end of world 8. The closest thing you can get to world 9 is to modify the blue toad house level, and make it so you can go to 9 different "levels" which are unused areas

[lapis bough]

idk why i said 9 levels specifically but whatever

[lapis bough]

I kinda wanna steal permanently borrow some of the rail textures from Newerds for my underground mine tileset, though not sure if its a good idea

[lone jetty]

Well, many people take stuff from Newer DS to a point that it's been somewhat normalized, I'm not saying it's correct or not, but maybe you wanna make your own ones or perhaps take the ones from DKC

[zinc rivet]

I did it tbh, for the train

And i will use it for a level in w3

That is a mine level

[lapis bough]

alright

though its not a lot of the rails

but i'll see

[lapis bough]

Idk whether rn i should work on the tileset or an animation im trying to make. i kinda have the motivation for both rn

also i dont think the tileset is gonna be anything extraordinary. i feel like it will pretty much just be the nsmbu underground tileset but grayscaled, and with some more deco elements like crystals and mine stuff

[zinc rivet]

My mine tileset will be desert ish

[lapis bough]

i think i'll work on the animation for now

Honestly i feel like this tileset is not gonna look as good as my 2 other ones, or at least wont have as much efforts put into it

[lapis bough]

Basically it should be the nsmbu underground, but in grayscale. Background rock deco. Crystal deco and crystals in the stone. And some mine deco

at least thats the best that comes to my mind

[lapis bough]

trying to make curves work

im going for a crystal-like look

[lone jetty]

Interesting

[lapis bough]

thanks

does it look good enough?

gonna make the 2 other colors now: green and cyan

[lone jetty]

I think it looks fantastic

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

Looks like that so far. honestly not too satisfied apart from the crystals i made

it feels like "nsmbu but look there are colored crystals now"

gonna keep the custom lamps from the nsmbwii tileset tho

[lapis bough]

Well for now it looks like this

i plan to add background tiles later, and also keep that lamp as i said already

also the rails and some "mine" deco (barrier, a minecart, wall lamp, probably a minecraft easter egg?)

gonna continue tomorrow

[lone jetty]

I think it looks pretty solid

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i wasnt sure of if it was good or not since its mainly ripped nsmbu graphics but modified

i think i'll also make the deco crystals lighter

[lone jetty]

Also, did you make those rocks? I don't remember those kind of rocks being in the NSMBU underground ts

[lapis bough]

they're from the nsmbwii underground

i recolored them with the curve

[lone jetty]

Ah I see

[lapis bough]

and before that i painfully separated them from the rest of the ground

[lone jetty]

yeah, that's the most annoying part imo

[lapis bough]

i exported them from the underwater underground tileset because they were colorful, but i still ended up recoloring them myself. though it probably helped a bit to differentiate them from the ground

[lapis bough]

yea it was

[lapis bough]

Things to do:
add the rails ✅ , "mine" deco (barrier ✅ , minecart ✅ , wall lamp, TNTs ✅ , minecraft easter egg? ✅ ), make crystals (and mushroom) lighter ✅

(its a reminder for myself)

[lone jetty]

I was precisely gonna suggest minecarts with TNT's lol

[lapis bough]

oh that could be cool to add

[lone jetty]

Minecarts with pipe bombs

[lapis bough]

though idk if i'll put them in the minecarts tho

not really nintendo-y to add tnt's in a mario game but its also not nintendo-y to add a gd reference so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone jetty]

Well, I don't think adding TNT's it's too bad :P

[lapis bough]

i think i'll add it

i added it to the list too

[lone jetty]

Cool

[lapis bough]

Remember this, or else...
||kjsakdsancli||

(also my keyboard now remembers the word "kjsakdsancli" and will show it to me automatically when i write "kj" lol)

could also probably be a good idea if i made the mushrooms blue so they kinda look like they're glowing? idk. but i'll use this for world 4 at least anyway

[zinc rivet]

Same lmao

[lone jetty]

Reminder to do the stuff on the ondergrawn tileset

[lapis bough]

couldnt yet because i cant/couldnt access my pc

thanks tho

[lone jetty]

Np

[lapis bough]

btw this is my main inspiration for the tileset, though i think i had the idea of making it gray before seeing this

[zinc rivet]

My mine tileset will be really diferent, more inspired in a smw hack

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[zinc rivet]

It will have wooden bases, rails, yellow/brown-ish rocks (w3 is a desert sooo)

It will have some minecarts (decoration only)

[lapis bough]

i planned a few of those things too

[zinc rivet]

Oh oki

Bester, what is the name of w6? I plan adding a signboard with something like "welcome to <name>"

On the map

[lapis bough]

Koopa Skyscrapers

i can send you the image of the board i made if you want

[zinc rivet]

Sure

[lapis bough]

alright i'll do when i can

[lapis bough]

Here you go

Just so you know, for the buildings could you please try to give them this kind of shape (and texture mapping)? i think that it would look better than if you reuse the "cliffs" part of the w6 map model

(made in sketchup)

[lapis bough]

well here's the tileset so far, i think its turning out pretty well (note: i stole permanently borrowed some stuff from newerds)

[lone jetty]

Noice

Where TNT tho? 😔

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

havent added it yet

do i make my own tnt texture or do i steal the one from minecraft?

[lone jetty]

Lmaoo

Well, if you're tsking it from Minecraft you aren't technically stealing it

You could always try to make your own though

[lapis bough]

i should probably stop stealing stuff lol

[lapis bough]

yea

[lone jetty]

Well, I stole** borrowed** a few assets from other hacks while also adding my own details, I don't think it'll hurt anyobdy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

As I said, it's always good to try to make your own stuff

[lapis bough]

yea true

[lone jetty]

Just make sure that the assets you're grabbing are free to use

[lapis bough]

i think the newerds stuff is free to use

[lone jetty]

If Newer Wii tilesets are free to use I suppose Newer DS ones are too

Just don't abuse, in my case, I'm sick of seeing Newer DS assets being overused in several hacks

Or hacks that are made using Newer as a base

[lapis bough]

ive heard about it somewhere

[lapis bough]

yea i dont think im abusing it

[lone jetty]

Could it have been here? https://nsmbhd.net/post/37807/

[lapis bough]

no in the server i think

[lapis bough]

oh okay

[zinc rivet]

I modeled the buildings from 0 so its easier to make

[lapis bough]

oh ok

Is that enough TNTs for you Ztardust?

(note: the vertical tnt is split in half)

and i made some with an offset of 4pixels

[zinc rivet]

Add more imo

I mean

Big ones

[lapis bough]

no lmao

im trying to add other stuff too

[lone jetty]

Hell yeah, TNT!!! 🔥 🧨 🔥 🧨 🔥 🧨 🔥 🧨

[lapis bough]

lol

i kinda wanna add minecarts

there are 3 choices:

1. i "borrow" them from newerds
2. i make my own
3. i dont put minecarts at all (i dont really need them)

[lone jetty]

I think minecarts are a nice decorative touch, they could take some space tho

Idea, minecarts with gold

[lapis bough]

could work

though im not 100 sure that there's enough space on the tileset

but i'll try

[zinc rivet]

I will draw mine or use tropical freeze one

[lapis bough]

alright

i think i'll drawn mine

mine, like the tileset...

[lone jetty]

Lol XD

[lapis bough]

Added the minecart stuff

there's also a wall lamp that i planned to add but i have a ceiling lamp already

guess i'll still add it tho

[junior junco]

yo diamond ore

[lapis bough]

yep lol

im adding some easter eggs referencing other games here and there

i think i'll add the wall lamp and import it into the game tomorrow

i also did some slight progress on 6-2

[lapis bough]

After finishing to make the underground tileset and finishing 6-2, i'll probably remake 1-2 and the underground bonus room of 1-1

the bonus room in 1-1 feels like a literal rectangle, i wanna add more structuring

1-2 feels kinda unfocused in terms of gimmicks: there are grounded piranha plants with some random pipe piranha plants here and there. i think i'll remake the level and only keep pipe piranha plants except for the secret exit passage (here, they are combined with seesaws)

[loud elm]

wait omg minecraf

[lapis bough]

yea lol

[lapis bough]

i think i'll import the tileset today, then try to finish 6-2, then after finishing it, rework 1-2 and the bonus room of 1-1

ive been thinking about maybe using the "bonus room" tileset for the bonus room, but idk

[lapis bough]

gonna import it into the rom now, i'll do the tile behavior stuff tomorrow

good news: the colors dont seem to have been compressed, which is nice

[lone jetty]

Noice

[lapis bough]

well except in some areas but its mostly not compressed

like, its not the goofy nsmbe compression, just the expected ds compression

[lone jetty]

As long as it's not too noticeable it should be fine

[lapis bough]

yea its not noticeable

as i said i'll do the tile behavior stuff tomorrow (its 4:27 am rn for me)

[lone jetty]

Also, I realized you added these semisolid platforms from the ghost house tileset from SMM, I figured out that you don't need all of those tiles since you could flip some of them in Map16, but that's a bit complicated and puzzle-ing

[lapis bough]

they are also in the underground tileset, but yea some look mirrored

tho i felt like some were slightly different so i kept them

but thats why i didnt for the version with the background rocks

[lone jetty]

Yeah, for the bg rocks it'd be necessary to include em all

[lapis bough]

oh so i should have done the opposite you think?

well guess i'll do it tomorrow

[lone jetty]

Nah, that'd be absolute pain, you could keep it as it is

[lapis bough]

no its not?

doesnt seem hard to do

REMINDER:

• Add background rocks behind wooden semisolid ✅
• Map 16 stuff ✅
• Make tile behavior stuff ✅
• Make objects stuff
• Continue 6-2

[loud elm]

next step: replace luigi model with steve minecrap

[lapis bough]

Got 2 ideas for the final boss if there's no way to make a custom one with code:

• The battle happens on a platform going up, with lava rising, obstacles. and on top there's the switch to kill bowser, bowser jr, and save princess peach
• Same battle as the vanilla game except that the switch, instead of saving peach, sends you to another view where you gotta escape a volcano with raising lava, and at the top you free princess peach

Might be good to replace peach with something else tho, having peach being stolen is kinda generic. maybe replacing it with a rainbow star or smth

[sour kettle]

replace her with mario

[lapis bough]

mario saving mario

[loud elm]

no make mario save steve minecraft

[lapis bough]

good idea

[loud elm]

then make steve minecraft fly off with mario i think

[strange jackal]

^

[loud elm]

into the sunset

[lapis bough]

goes well with the theme of world 1

tho i think i'll probably just use a rainbow star, it will make sense story-wise

[zinc rivet]

In my hack it would not have peach

You will rescue a giant paint star (like those that i put for the castles)

[lapis bough]

oh alright

[zinc rivet]

But it will be giant

I wanted to make it desapear with the Black hole but since the plannet of w5 orbit it this would be nonsense

[lapis bough]

lack of progress because lack of motivation. not only for the hack but for pretty much everything

[green ridge]

Damn
as much as I want to play this rom I would like to say if you don’t feel like doing anything or want some time off it is very understandable take your time man no rush is needed

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

yesterday i imported the underground tileset

it needs minor adjustments

tho using tileset slot 3 was a mistake... a lot of colors are broken because of the ice flashing colors. i thought it was related to tiles, not the palette

[strange jackal]

aight

[lapis bough]

so i guess i'll try to fix the tileset today

i need to remake 1-2 and the bonus room of 1-1 with it tho

[lone jetty]

Alright

[lapis bough]

Kinda wish i could have made progress today, i had the necessary motivation and all, but i FUCKING COULDNT

also in about 5 days, i wont be at home during 3 weeks. during this time, development of the hack will be paused, though i might write a few ideas here

[sour kettle]

oh are ya going on a trip or something

[mellow basin]

I‘ve the same problem bro

I need some ideas

And I’m on vacation right now

[lapis bough]

yea

[lapis bough]

i do have a lot of ideas but these days i didnt have a lot of motivation. and now its time that i dont have

[mellow basin]

I also lost some motivation. I don’t get it with the 3D modeling stuff. This makes me kind a unmotivated.