NSMB: The Rainbow Quest

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lone jetty]

Cool, I'll give it a try then :))

[zinc rivet]

Cool!! 🙂

[lapis bough]

wait i think i need your help with the plugins

oh wait you said you dont have blender, i forgot

[zinc rivet]

Its the same as maya

[lapis bough]

ok

imported it in blender but the transparency (and some textures) broke :/

[zinc rivet]

Ah those black parts will disapear when you export it

Its because blender doenst render transparency

[lapis bough]

oh ok

because it doesnt look like that with the original model

(which i used as a reference)

[zinc rivet]

The white parts could be fixed with uv

[lapis bough]

idk how to do uv stuff

thats why i gave up doing stuff in blender the first time

one of the reasons

[zinc rivet]

Ohhh oki

[zinc rivet]

Ngl uv maps is really hard to do

[lapis bough]

3 surfaces' textures exactly broke

[zinc rivet]

Weird

Its not suposed to looks like that

Try re-importing the texture

[lapis bough]

its the same texture for the whole part, but it doesnt apply to everything

and idk how to reimport the texture

[zinc rivet]

Take an print of full screen on blender and i will try to help you

[lapis bough]

its in french tho

[zinc rivet]

Click on this area to edit the textures uv

[lapis bough]

i'll try importing it and see what it looks like maybe

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

Its easy than the uv mapping

[lapis bough]

there's none

no materials i mean

[zinc rivet]

Try creating an new scene, and import the model without textures

I will help you texturing it

[lapis bough]

ok

cant i simply duplicate it?

and remove the textures

[zinc rivet]

Yes

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

And you click here

To remove materials

[lapis bough]

done

wait i needed the converted image from nitro paint

so thats what i had to do anyway

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhhhh oki

On blender you need the nitro tga?

[lapis bough]

the "nns material" option doesnt show up

[lapis bough]

i think

[zinc rivet]

You activated the plugin?

[lapis bough]

even after adding a material first, yes

[lapis bough]

i think its not

its not in the list of plugins too

[zinc rivet]

You first need to import it, then you search it and activate it

[lapis bough]

i cant find it, thats the thing

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

whats the name of the plugin in blender?

[zinc rivet]

Try converting the model you did on sketch up on nitro converter gui

[zinc rivet]

Nitro exporter

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

Just search for imd

[zinc rivet]

And it shows up

[lapis bough]

i dont think it does

[zinc rivet]

If it doenst show up try using the nitro converter gui

It's cool to make unanimated 3d models

And ngl towers with shadows looks weird imo

On my hack i dont use they

[lapis bough]

i mean the shading, otherwise it will look like plastic from a 2d cartoon

alright i managed to install it

done

thanks

alright now i need help with the uv mapping stuff please

[zinc rivet]

Open the uv tab

This one

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

And take an print of what apears there

I will help you with the uvs

[lapis bough]

pretty much nothing

[zinc rivet]

Click on the "new"

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

And return to the material tab, and i will help you to apply the textures

[lapis bough]

ok

[zinc rivet]

Take a print of the material tab because it have one place to click

I will mark with red

[zinc rivet]

Here you import the texture png

[lapis bough]

i did

but with the tga file

[zinc rivet]

You need to use the rendered mode to make the texture apear on blender, but even if you dont use the rendered mode the texture is already here

[zinc rivet]

Oh oki, i didn't noticed it lmao

[lapis bough]

i enabled it

[zinc rivet]

Now import the textures of the other parts and export the imd, and drag it to the g3dcvtr.exe to convert it

And import to the game

[lapis bough]

it doesnt appear still

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

with the tga that is

[zinc rivet]

Try importing png

[lapis bough]

ok

nope, same result

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

i guess i'll try exporting the one with the visible textures

[zinc rivet]

Enable it:

It makes the textures to apear

[lapis bough]

the 4th one?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

because the textures appeared with the 3rd one

[zinc rivet]

Its because the nns materials need to be rendered to apear

Since the 3rd one is just to make the material textures/shading to apear

[lapis bough]

ok

it doesnt work still

it just shows a solid light gray color

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

wait i think i know why

it uses the color of the top-left pixel only for some reason

[zinc rivet]

You added vertex colors?

[lapis bough]

i probably have to resize it

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhhhh maybe

[lapis bough]

because with other textures the color changes

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhhhh

Thats it

[lapis bough]

no, i set it to "textured + solid color"

[zinc rivet]

Ahh oki

[lapis bough]

idk how to resize it tho...

[zinc rivet]

Resize it on uv maps

I dont know much about blender uv maps

But if im not mistaken theres an video about the nns blender plugins on yt

Let me se it

It shows about the uvs

2 videos on this playlist shows how to mess up with blender nns plugins:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDnGQ0eMcG4DEkV_ufvywidZvZ9AzZaSY&si=bBjQCYIVpfhlvmqW

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

I think it's the 2.1 and 2.2

[zinc rivet]

You are welcome 🙂

[lapis bough]

not the gd updates

[zinc rivet]

LMAOOO

[lapis bough]

i think the uv mapping is broken

for the model

it doesnt work

-_-

the faces dont show up on the left

you know what i give up

[lapis bough]

at 2.1 i have an issue: after clicking the + button, the texture shows up as a single color

it looks like a rendering issue

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[zinc rivet]

Maybe it is

[lapis bough]

alright i managed to do it using nitro model converter

the tower looks noisy tho, i think i'll change the texture

[lone jetty]

Fantastic!

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

My only complaint is the door

[lone jetty]

Np ;))

[lapis bough]

moon coin (a bit goofy)

for the secret world

[lone jetty]

Looks cool

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

its from nsmb2

i retextured it and converted it

[lone jetty]

Fascinating

[lapis bough]

thanks

[lone jetty]

You're welcome ;))

[zinc rivet]

It have the shading?

Looks cool!

[lapis bough]

no its fake shading

[zinc rivet]

Fake shading is bettrr imo

Better*

[junior junco]

It isn’t

In my opinion

Because you can’t manipulate it with code

[zinc rivet]

Ohh

[lapis bough]

its the best i could do with sketchup, blender not working properly

[zinc rivet]

On blender you cant replicate shading too, only on maya with blinn material

Or phong (the one that i use)

[lapis bough]

you can with the nns plugin i think

[zinc rivet]

But you need to download the phong/blinn material

(Wich is not that hard btw)

[lapis bough]

ok

is maya easier to use tho?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah its very user friendly

And it dont have those stupid blender errors

[lapis bough]

lmao

alright i think i might try to get it legally

[lone jetty]

100% legal

[zinc rivet]

Yeah, everyone have maya2011 legally

[lapis bough]

yeah

[junior junco]

I should get may2011 but my laptop can run blender perfectly so

I don’t really need it

[lapis bough]

ok

[lapis bough]

made this in sketchup (w1 tree modification)

but then it doesnt wanna get converted into nsbmd

[zinc rivet]

You are using some texture that is larger than 128x128?

[lapis bough]

no

the highest is 32x32

and 16x128

[zinc rivet]

Or an texture that isnt based on the nds pattern? (Ex: 26x18, 65x27 etc)

What are the dimensions of the textures

[lapis bough]

wait does 8x8 work?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[zinc rivet]

You cant use textures that arent on the 8x, 16x, 32x, 64 and 128x

Like, if you have an texture that is like "32x20" it will not convert

[zinc rivet]

All the textures have to be one of those numbers, ex:
128x32
32x64
8x128

[lapis bough]

yeah i know

i made sure they all fit

[zinc rivet]

And other textures following this pattern

[lapis bough]

thanks tho

[zinc rivet]

What is the error that it gives?

Oh wait

You have polygons/textures/materials with the same name?

[lapis bough]

not materials/textures

polygons dont have names on sketchup

[zinc rivet]

Ah oki

[lapis bough]

but they should work fine since the tower worked fine

[zinc rivet]

So try pick-up the imd that ass2imd generated and put it on g3dcvtr

[zinc rivet]

Yeah they work, when the program dont put an polygon name the imd automaticaly create names for it

[lapis bough]

ass2imd is with what program?

[zinc rivet]

Its the program that you use to convert the models to nsmbmd

[lapis bough]

is it nitro model converter?

[zinc rivet]

The nitro converter gui

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

because thats the one i used last time

but this time it doesnt work

[zinc rivet]

Go on the temp folder

First

[lapis bough]

its empty

[zinc rivet]

Try generating the imd again, it will give the error

[lapis bough]

yeah but its still empty when i do that

it gives me the "index is out of bounds" error

[zinc rivet]

Then go to the gui converter and search into the folders (i dont remember the folder)

[zinc rivet]

Ah it's because your polygons or uvs are out of bounds

[lapis bough]

how can they be out of bounds?

[zinc rivet]

Try importing the og tree model to sketch up

[lapis bough]

thats what i did

i built my tree model on it

[zinc rivet]

(Or download an world map model on the model resources)

Its pretty weird

Because this error i only get one time on maya because of the uvs

Try exporting it as an .dae and put on nitro converter

[lapis bough]

thats what i did

[zinc rivet]

So export the dae, and open in an new sketchup project

Or open it on blender, and on blender you export it as an .dae again

And put on the converter gui

And if it dont work i have one solution

Export it as an obj (sketch up need to have .mtl files suport to export an mtl too) and convert it by mario kart ds course modifier

I recomend trying the 2nd option first

The mkdscm

[lapis bough]

doesnt work both ways

[zinc rivet]

Weird

[lapis bough]

guess i'll try adding another nwav today

i dont feel like making too much progress on this hack for now i think (motivation loss i think)
instead i'll try working on other stuff like my sm64 hack

[lone jetty]

Oh nice, I've always wanted to make a SM64 hack

[lapis bough]

thanks

i think i'll show progress in #hobby-showcase whenever i do make progress

i think i need to make the models first

and sometimes to design the levels with sketches before

[lapis bough]

gonna use this later
#1224594156958253076 message

[lapis bough]

i should really make more progress

you know what, i'll give myself a challenge: finish 1-5 and 2-3 this week

[dire wedge]

Good luck

[lapis bough]

thanks!

[lapis bough]

alright i technically made progress

i placed like 15 blocks...

nothing special yet

[lapis bough]

i couldnt make progress due to me being physically tired for a few days

i'll try making some later today i guess

[lapis bough]

it's with a great pleasure that i announce you that... i finally finished 1-5!!!

still needs testing tho

[strange jackal]

🔥

gl

[lapis bough]

but it should be fine

[lone jetty]

Cool!

How many levels have you completed so far?

[lapis bough]

counting this one... 5 and a half

[lone jetty]

You haven't finished 2-3?

[lapis bough]

i'll work on it right after

i started 1-5 before though

[lone jetty]

🔥

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

No problem mate ^^

My recomendation is that when you're making levels, take as much time as you want so you can make good quality levels

Don't rush, because that brings stress and demotivation imo

[lapis bough]

alright

thanks

[lone jetty]

yw :))

[sour kettle]

are you planning on recording a vid of it or anything liek that

[lapis bough]

when its fully finished

i need to fix the pipes too

i replaced the old silouette effect which required to stack 8 times the sprite 325 retextured in black, by will smith's code hack, except that some stuff doesnt have the silhouette effect now

but yeah i'll record a video at some point

[maiden leaf]

yeah unfortunately you'll probably have to stick with the hacky fog effect method

[lapis bough]

this one lags on my phone tho

[maiden leaf]

unless you don't use the things that aren't affected

[lapis bough]

i can still recreate pipes tho, in the silhouette tileset

since the silhouette effect will be used, we wont notice that mario/luigi is in front of the tileset

[loud elm]

we need a sneak peek trailer 🔥🔥🔥

[lapis bough]

2.2 sneak peek

no im lazy i dont wanna make video editing

[zinc rivet]

!1!1!1

[lapis bough]

guess the last think i'll do today will probably be graphics editing (i wanna edit the score graphics again, this time by giving a different color depending on the score you get)

[zinc rivet]

Cool imo

[lapis bough]

also to fix a bug that makes it so mario and luigi dont load the score palettes correctly if you change the player in the level intro screen

(for example if you have mario, then switch to luigi in this screen, the score text will have the colors that are used for mario)

[zinc rivet]

Yeah i noticed this

I also wanted to fix it lmao

[lapis bough]

actually no, its complicated, i have to mess with shared palettes and such so i wont do it today

[loud elm]

Just a screen recording of some stuff

[lapis bough]

later

[loud elm]

k

[lapis bough]

when its finished

[loud elm]

ah

[lapis bough]

also today i dont have any motivation to do anything

[lapis bough]

i got the random idea of making a level with the vvvvvv mechanic (changing gravity whenever you jump)

but that would require code hacks

[lone jetty]

Like those rings that change the gravity in Geometry Dash?

[lapis bough]

more like the ball gamemode in gd

[lone jetty]

Fascinating

[loud elm]

Kind of like that one smg galaxy

[lapis bough]

idk, i think i didn't get that far into the game

unless you mean those rooms where the gravity is in zones, with red/blue arrows

[lapis bough]

couldnt finish 2-3 :(

but hey i made a lot of progress

[zinc rivet]

Oh thats cool!!

[lapis bough]

thanks

i need to decide what level to make next

1-Castle?

2-Castle?

3-1?

idk

need to see that list

[zinc rivet]

Maybe 1/2-castle

[lapis bough]

this list, The List

or maybe 1-4?

[lone jetty]

I think you should ping that list, shouldn't you?

[lapis bough]

i cant

but i wrote "future reference" which helps me search the message and find it easily

thats the closest i got to pinning it

[lone jetty]

A list sounds like a good idea, I should do the same in my hack's channel, I already have planned how 90% of the levels in my hack are gonna look like

[lone jetty]

Oh, I thought you could

[lapis bough]

i'll sleep

[lone jetty]

Night man

[lapis bough]

gn 🌙

[hardy sail]

[lapis bough]

he meant pin lol

[lone jetty]

Oh yeah, sorry for that typo

[lapis bough]

i'll try making progress tomorrow

goals: finish 2-3 and make w2 map graphics

[lone jetty]

Cool

[lapis bough]

oh yeah progress:
Finished levels: 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-, 1-5
Unfinished but started levels: 2-3

Note: finished levels might receive improvements in the future still

also 4 am ☠️

[maiden leaf]

nice

but please sleep it's good for you ‼️

[lapis bough]

yeah

i have a bad sleep schedule

levels i might work on right after: 1- , 2- , 8-7, 1-4, 6-1, idk

[lapis bough]

taking a short break from this hack i guess, not much motivation to work on it atm

guess who continued working on it 5 minutes after saying that?

[junior junco]

thats so relatable lol

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

Me in a nutshell:

[lapis bough]

lol

[loud elm]

sleep is for weaklings

https://tenor.com/view/chad-gigachad-jinup-jinup-chad-gif-23896242

[lapis bough]

please tell me a gimmick with which it would be interesting if i would work on it

[zinc rivet]

Whats about the rock to life one?

Like newer wii tower

Or track-based plataforms, they fits on the sky levels

[lapis bough]

you mean castle?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

i dont have a lot of ideas with them but i might try

[lapis bough]

yeah i'll probably work on it pretty soon

there's also an idea of level i got a while back: "Unagi's Depths", highly inspired by Jolly Roger Bay (sm64)

[zinc rivet]

Ohhhhhhh cool!!

I really like 3d mario themes/enemies in 2d mario games

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

You're welcome!

[lapis bough]

i dont have that much ideas tho, but i want it to be a level where you go down, in the Depths, with a lot of Unagis along the way. then you probably go through a sunken ship, and then you will have to go up again

thats what i planned so far

[zinc rivet]

Thsts pretty cool! It fits on 3-3 level

[lone jetty]

I'd give you some ideas, but my mind is empty lol

[lapis bough]

but i'd probably like to make it so the ship gets "unsunk" in some way

[zinc rivet]

Same

[lapis bough]

also using the jrb music obviously

[zinc rivet]

Like in the jolly Roger Bay level, cool idea!

[lapis bough]

yeah its literally inspired from it

thanks

[zinc rivet]

The dire dire depths song right?

[lapis bough]

dire dire docks

ddd/jrb

from sm64

most likely a remix tho

[zinc rivet]

I always call dire dire docks dire dire depths idk why lmaoo

But yeah this song is cool

[lapis bough]

yeah its incredible

[lone jetty]

There's a thing that I never understood, why is the song called "Dire Dire Docks" if the song can be heard for the first time in Jolly Roger Bay? Shouldn't the song be named after JRB? It's unfair that Dire Dire Docks it's taking the credit for JRB's song >:((

[lapis bough]

yeah lmao i always think this

[lone jetty]

Also, I preffer JRB more than DDD

[lapis bough]

which is why i said the jrb music

[lapis bough]

kinda like most people

[zinc rivet]

On my hack i will use wet dry docks for cave levels

[lapis bough]

wet dry world?

(i was gonna write "wet fry world" because of my keyboard lol)

[zinc rivet]

https://youtu.be/dc0PWOcJk_8?si=0gFUC-qwPysKN5LE

Sorry for the ping

[lapis bough]

ohhh this one

yeah could be interesting

i love it, it gives good vibes for some reason

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

also ive been thinking about making an ending theme remix myself. it's supposed to be a mashup of different ending themes in the series.
i think i have this planned:

• smb3
• smw
• sm64
• smo
• smg
• nsmbds
  finishing off with nsmb ds because thats the game that is being modified

and yeah it will probably be one of my first times making my own music

[loud elm]

boost jump like in mario galaxy

[lapis bough]

might be complicated without code hacks

[hardy sail]

Propeller Blocks (NSMBW)

or the long ? Blocks

Hang on

I got one

those stretchy trees from that one SRB remake that gave my computer a virus

[lapis bough]

they dont exist in nsmb but i can use the spinning launchers

[lapis bough]

which?

[hardy sail]

The SAGE 2020 remake

you grab onto them and sling in the opposite direction

just please dont download it

as far as im concerned, there is a virus

[lapis bough]

you mean that one "dangerous" sonic fangame?

[sour kettle]

no

[lapis bough]

i'll try to get more info about it but not downloading it

[hardy sail]

This gamehttps://sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/sonic-robo-blast-knothole-coast-demo.678/

This wretched thing gave my computer a virus

[sour kettle]

i dont see how itd give your computer a virus tbh

[hardy sail]

It comes up after you beat the demo

[lapis bough]

i thought you meant this
https://youtu.be/ElgIqbie45g?si=3PIIbiZXDDcQA8kS

[lapis bough]

some people in the comments said that it was a false positive from windows defender

not sure tho

[lapis bough]

guess you're talking about this

anyway, i need to use stuff that is in nsmb already preferably

[sour kettle]

are you thinking of any level theme in particular

[lapis bough]

not really

i actually wanted a gimmick in particular so i could make a level that i planned with it

but i think i'll probably do 1- first

[sour kettle]

what about a ghost house that uses the level rotation thing from the final castle n those switch blocks

[lapis bough]

yeah i thought about doing that

i might work on it soon, thanks

[hardy sail]

Why don't you try those unused jelly blocks as a template for how the player launches?

[lapis bough]

interesting

[lapis bough]

2-3 is almost finished

just gotta finish the secret exit room

[zinc rivet]

My 2-3 dont have secret exit since i didn't plan add cannon levels

Only the airships of w1 and w2 will have secret cannons (w1 to w3, w2 to w5)

[lapis bough]

ok

[lapis bough]

alright i finished 2-3

just gotta edit a texture and it should be done

[lone jetty]

Noice

[lapis bough]

added the enemy battle music from nsmbwii

gonna be used in an area of 1-5

[lapis bough]

i'll try to record 1-5 and 2-3 whenever i can

they are both finished, forgot to say

[lone jetty]

Cool!

[lapis bough]

thanks

[loud elm]

ooh

[lapis bough]

didnt have time today (like every monday) so i'll try recording the levels tomorrow

[lapis bough]

might use this theme for tower levels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4NVvPH8DHM&list=PLmYW4kFMItwUTPSQ9nQAMAJWG0UV90g0f&index=77

[lone jetty]

This guy makes a lot of great remixes, I listened some of his songs and they are absolute fire

[lapis bough]

(yes its allowed to use as long as we give credits, its written in the description of his most recent videos)

[lapis bough]

true

they are great

[lapis bough]

guess i'll start recording soon

[loud elm]

i love noble demon

[lapis bough]

yeah a great recomposer/remixer or whatever you call it

[lapis bough]

currently exporting the second video

i have to make thumbnails 😭

nah i'll do it later

alright, here we go, finally:
https://youtu.be/310WFDEi-ug
https://youtu.be/5MoBJ-l7ZyA

too lazy to make thumbnails for now

i think i probably wont make thumbnails

[lone jetty]

Fantastic, I watched both videos and both levels have a really good design, and the Star Coins are very well placed, great work man

I really liked the way you used the sunset effect

The coin sprites don't seem to be affected by that effect tho

Also, I could make you thumbnails if you want

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[lapis bough]

if you feel like doing so and if you have enough free time and motivation to do so, i'd like it please

but dont feel forced

[lone jetty]

I don't feel forced, I'd be glad to make some thumbnails for you

[lapis bough]

alright

thank you

[lone jetty]

The only thing I'd need is a gameplay screenshot of both levels and the whole font in PNG format

[lone jetty]

You're welcome man

[lapis bough]

also i got inspired by your thumbnails for my thumbnails lol

[lapis bough]

i can take a screenshot from the videos, and for the font, i have the font file, which you can install on your computer and use it

[lone jetty]

Oh really?, cool, I feel honored lmao

[lone jetty]

Alright

[lapis bough]

do you want me to crop the screenshots to leave only the top screen?

[lone jetty]

Not necessarily

[lapis bough]

alright

here

[lone jetty]

Cool

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

this is the font i usually use

[lone jetty]

If you can, could you also send me a picture of your hack's logo?

[lapis bough]

sure

here

the space below is because its actually the format used by the 256 colors logo hack

[lone jetty]

Alright, give me some minutes and I'll send you the thumbnails

[lapis bough]

alright, thanks

[lone jetty]

No problem buddy

[loud elm]

maybe place the spike on a slightly elevated semi solid platform so it faces no insta death, and the spike ball can still run under it? (Unless it’s meant to die and merely exists as decoration)

[lapis bough]

its more to introduce the player to say "hey this levels will have spikes, they can kill you and other enemies so you gotta avoid them"

[loud elm]

And its death is there to remind other spikes not to mess up the same way

[loud elm]

Ah

[lapis bough]

and i found the death funny so i kept it lol

[loud elm]

@lone jetty sorry for ghost ping lol

[loud elm]

lmao

[lapis bough]

also for this, i have 2 fix planned:

• either using the silhouette effect by Will Smith which doesnt affect 2d tiles/models
• or simply recolor the coin sprite so more of it is actually black and only a small portion stays yellow, like the ? and brick blocks

or both

[lone jetty]

Don't worry dude

I finished the thumbnails

Sorry if they aren't great and sorry if it took me too much

[lapis bough]

thanks!! the images look a bit squished tho

did you use paint.net?

if yes, mind sending me the pdn files please?

i think i'll remake them, but thanks a lot still

still saving them on my computer tho

[lone jetty]

No problem buddy, I could make the images less squished if you want

[lapis bough]

the thing is that i would have liked to put an outline around the text too (which i usually do using a paint.net plugin)

[loud elm]

you could always try this neat tool called figma (better for fancy stuff such as mockups and thumbnails)

[lone jetty]

I didn't know how to put outlines to the letters, also, wich plugins do I need to install and how do I do it?

I'll tell you what, I'll try to redo the thumbnails later, some business came up and I'm going to be busy for a couple of hours

[lapis bough]

alright

i already started remaking the thumbnails tho

[lone jetty]

Fine then, sorry if I didn't help too much :/

[lapis bough]

no its fine dont worry

im using them as a base to place back the stuff, like the logo and the text, so it still sort-of helps

and you pushed me/gave me the motivation to actually do it lol

i use stuff from there btw (the plugins for example)
https://nsmbhd.net/thread/5258-tutorial-how-to-make-nsmb-and-nsmb2-logo/

if anyone needs this

[lone jetty]

Alright, but if you need me to make some thumbnails at some point, don't hesitate to ask me

[lapis bough]

alright

here they are

forgot the outlines 🤦

alright i added it

[zinc rivet]

How tou maked you logo 3d-ish?

[zinc rivet]

Oh ok

[maiden leaf]

damn the decoration in the second one is on point, great job

both look great

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

with the plugin effects and spending 2 hours manually doing shading with layers

[zinc rivet]

On ibis paint i did it more easy since we can extrude the image

Like this

[lapis bough]

nice

[zinc rivet]

Yeah its an very cool app, it have an Windows and ios version iirc

[lapis bough]

alright

i had the ios version but then uninstalled it. idk why

[sour kettle]

levels seem cool

particularly the second

tho the secret exit seems a bit unhidden/boring

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lapis bough]

at first it was meant to be a star-coin but then i thought it could work as a secret exit

i can still make an extra segment, slightly harder than the other segments of the levels, before the secret flagpole, like i did in 1-2 tho

[sour kettle]

well i mainly mention unhidden/boring because its relatively obvious what to do to reach it and easy enough to do so, but you sorta just have to wait for it to happen

unengaging i suppose

[lapis bough]

yeah i see

idk what to do for another secret exit tho so i'll either improve this one in some way or leave it as it is

[sour kettle]

gotcha

[junior junco]

for this room, did you think aboout increasing the camera top offset so you can see more of whats going on above?

[lapis bough]

i didnt know you could do that

is that a sprite? which one?

thanks for the suggestion tho

[junior junco]

its in the view settings

look at the tower levels

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[junior junco]

I usauly use 48 in my vertical levels as thats three tiles

[lapis bough]

thanks, i'll try it

[lapis bough]

might make it so the blocks that allow you to go up get enabled with a hidden switch, idk

[lapis bough]

might give the smw recolors i made in #1207793065524199455 at some point, if anyone wants them

[lapis bough]

what should i do next

maybe w2 map graphics and level intro screens

[lapis bough]

please suggest me something to do

[zinc rivet]

An level maybe

[lapis bough]

working on retexturing w2 rn

[junior junco]

I was just about to suggest working on the maps

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[zinc rivet]

Same lol

But my adhd just make me go to search newer wii songs lmao

[lapis bough]

lol

[junior junco]

adhd moment

That’s me when I don’t take adhd meds

[zinc rivet]

Same lol

It's even funinier that i searched for an extremely specific song

(Freezeflame glacier)

[zinc rivet]

Funnier*

[lapis bough]

didnt notice lol

my brain thinking that i should say something in the conversation but i have nothing to say lol

[junior junco]

That’s a good song

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

now its playing in my head, thanks

no sarcasm here

[zinc rivet]

LMAO

[lapis bough]

its a good song and it helps me not getting bored

also reminds me of good memories

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[zinc rivet]

Same

[junior junco]

The Sticker star ost is always playing in my head

Same with the Celeste ost

[zinc rivet]

I rmemebr that i spent hours on the newer wii ice levels, even more the volcano part

[zinc rivet]

Celest have an cool ost tbh

[zinc rivet]

Remember**

[junior junco]

Lena raine did such a good job

[zinc rivet]

My grammar is a bit uncanny today

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

didnt lena raine also make minecraft music?

like pigstep

or is that someone else?

well here are the modified textures

[zinc rivet]

OMG

[lapis bough]

thanks

i didnt modify everything but i modified some stuff to make it feel like more "desert ruins"

wait i can modify the brick blocks too

hold on

(- Teminite)

here

also made some of the bricks lighter

now i'll make the level intro screens i guess

[lapis bough]

level intro template

[lone jetty]

Damn, that template looks really sick

[outer juniper]

My stripes

[lapis bough]

thats only the placeholder lol (was too lazy to make something new so i reused something i had already lol)

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[junior junco]

Yeah she did

[lapis bough]

ok

for example we get this for 1-1

[lone jetty]

It's so beautiful dude

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

i thank the paint.net plugins for some of the stuff

why the hell is my pc heating if only 16% of the processor is used?

the hud stuff breaks 😭

it misaligns the stripes

[outer juniper]

Get your own pattern

[lapis bough]

i made the pattern myself

its only the idea that was permanently borrowed

and idk what else to use honestly

the only other background pattern that i can think of are 45° rotated squares, but its too similar to newerds

[zinc rivet]

:<

[lapis bough]

trying to make a good fix

you'll see what i mean by that

[lapis bough]

thats better i think

might add more details in the corners

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

i think i'll change the mario/luigi heads to those from nsmbwii or u

and i might add stuff in the corners, or on top

[lapis bough]

taking a short break because motivation loss, and i have more motivation for other projects

[lapis bough]

im not proud of some elements of the level intro screens i made honestly

the text and the level images are good

but the life counter part and the background arent great imo

(+i dont wanna steal ndymario's ideas of the stripes)

i'll probably try adding either something in the corners, or some banner-looking thing for the text
and i think i'll use the nsmbwii head icons

[zinc rivet]

What is stripes

[lapis bough]

\\\\

the pattern that i used for the banner and that this server used

[maiden leaf]

Ndy didn't invent stripes 💀

[lapis bough]

lol

i know

i think i simply felt bad because of ndymario's message

still i feel like it misses something

[maiden leaf]

He was probably joking

[lapis bough]

yeah i think

[outer juniper]

Yeah I can't patent stripes lmao

Specifically the colors tho since they feel like the "Central Brand" as opposed to aribrary colors :p

[lapis bough]

ok

the colors are only gonna be used for the bottom screen

(and the placeholders but they wont be used in-game)

[lapis bough]

rn i dont have that much motivation to work on the hack. i have motivation for gd instead

my motivation is like a swing: sometimes i feel like doing one thing, sometimes i feel like doing something else, and sometimes its in the middle and i dont feel like doing anything

might make significant progress in a few weeks tho, for now progress will be slow

[lone jetty]

I understand, it happens to me sometimes too

My best advice is to do what you want to do, it is not good to do things without desire or motivation

I think I said this before tho, lol

But it's a good advice

[lapis bough]

yeah thats what i usually try to do

thanks!!

thats also why i prefer having a lot of unfinished projects at once so i can switch between them:
whenever i lose motivation on one and get back motivation on the other one

[lone jetty]

That's good! Personally I don't have much projects, but sometimes I like to take a break and dedicate to my personal hobbies

I'm starting to consider watching other hacks to get inspiration for mine

[lapis bough]

alright

1- should include mainly Twomps and those tilting platfoms we can find in 8-5 in the original game

(definitely not inspired by someone using those platforms as a replacement for rotating platforms, when remaking nsmbwii 1-)

i think i'll also include a section that is similar to the first half of "The Sewers" from GD 2.2

[lapis bough]

might use this for the beach theme:
https://youtu.be/w3BuWKekLdY?si=mDakboHEU-CsvJ-k

Beach bowl galaxy

(just realized the name of the video is in french)

[lapis bough]

you know what i'll start 1-Castle tomorrow

[zinc rivet]

YEEEY TOMORROW WILL HAVE NEW SNEAK PEAKS

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

@lapis bough how you did the blue ring without replacing the red ring? I will use it as a physical checkpoint

[lapis bough]

i think i have a few ideas already so thats nice

so you wanna use the blue ring? or a custom model?

[zinc rivet]

Cool song!

[lapis bough]

yea

[zinc rivet]

Blue ring

[lapis bough]

ok

[lone jetty]

Yupee ^o^

[lapis bough]

well the code hack i gave to you last time (a long time ago now) should work

code hacks*

[lapis bough]

thanks :)

[zinc rivet]

I dont downloaded the one for the blue ring, since i used the remodeled red ring, you can sent it later?

[lapis bough]

yeah i can

[zinc rivet]

Oki 😉

[lapis bough]

tomorrow tho because its 2 am

(why do i keep sleeping late)

[zinc rivet]

Yeah here is 9 PM too so i cat use my pc for now

[lapis bough]

ok

[lapis bough]

New post for the hack on NSMBHD!
https://nsmbhd.net/thread/6078-new-super-mario-bros-the-lost-sequel/

[zinc rivet]

COOL!

[lone jetty]

Noice

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

Btw, how do you make it so the Spoiler tag says "Screenshots :)" instead of "Spoiler"

[lapis bough]

instead of [spoiler]…[/spoiler], use [spoiler=…]…[/spoiler] (replace the … in [spoiler=…] by the text you want to add)

[lone jetty]

Oh nice! Thanks!

[lapis bough]

no problem :D

how can you put tags for the hack tho?

midnight ._.

[lone jetty]

It should be in the thread settings

[lapis bough]

i'll check that (if i find them that is)

oh nvm i found it i think

but only for modifying the title and the icons tho

[lone jetty]

Can't you change the thread's tag? I thought you could

[lapis bough]

i think you can

but i dont even know how to add a tag in the first place actually

[lone jetty]

Try typing the text you want to be in the tag between [...]

[lapis bough]

ohh ok

thanks!

yep it works!

[lone jetty]

Noice!

[lapis bough]

why putting a custom icon for the tread doesnt work? ive put the right link tho

it worked with NSMB DS Deluxe

[lone jetty]

Weird, are you sure you did it correctly?

[lapis bough]

yea

i tried like 10 times lol

[lone jetty]

Copying the link of your image where it says "Custom"

[lapis bough]

thats what i did

but it didnt work

nsmbhd hates me

[lone jetty]

Lmao, well, either it's a NSMBHD bug or you actually can't edit thread icons

Maybe you could ask an admin tho

[lapis bough]

it didnt work the first time too, before posting it

guess its a bug

[lone jetty]

Yeah, NSMBHD has bugs sometimes, I can't delete files from the uploader

As I said, maybe you could ask an admin

[lapis bough]

i dont think not being able to delete them is a bug tho

at least i thought that there was no feature for that

[lone jetty]

Oh, is your hack's icon 32x32? Maybe it doesn't have a correct size

[lapis bough]

oh maybe

actually it is

because i used the exact same image that i imported for the banner.bin file of the rom

[lone jetty]

Well, I got told by an admin that you can delete files from the uploader, but I can't

[lapis bough]

and i tried with the image of my old hack (which worked somehow the first time)

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lone jetty]

Oh, well, that's weird

[lapis bough]

i mean it worked for the old hack thread only

not the new one

[lone jetty]

Well, in that case idk, sorry :/

[lapis bough]

its fine, thanks for trying to help still

[lone jetty]

You could put one of those default icons tho, like the pacman =]

[lapis bough]

yea

i guess i technically started 1- lol

enough progress for today, i gotta sleep

[lone jetty]

Relatable, lmao

Night night man

[lapis bough]

night night

[maiden leaf]

Nice

You should add mamma mia team to your code hack credits

[lapis bough]

oh true

but where exactly

[maiden leaf]

Wdym

[lapis bough]

because the credits are divided in multiple sections

oh code hacks

i didnt see it, my bad

gonna do it rn

done

[lapis bough]

i wanna do something but im not sure what exactly

[lapis bough]

well, i decided to make a custom castle tileset

the nsmb wii one is kinda lame imo

and undetailed/empty

[lapis bough]

so far it looks like this (im making it over the nsmbwii tileset)

[junior junco]

nice, that castle tileset for the w7 and w6 bosses is probs my fav

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

yeah i thought about bricks then about this one, so i decided to use it, knowing that its rarely used

[lapis bough]

if only there was an "animated tiles" code hack for ncpatcher... i would have made animated torches

[zinc rivet]

I would use the code for making the tank wheels and the water on 1-2

[lone jetty]

Hole in da fayah :)

Looks cool, i like it

[lone jetty]

Maybe instead of animated torches you could do some wall lamps

[lapis bough]

lol

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[zinc rivet]

Fayah in dah hole!

[lapis bough]

not sure how they would look like

[lapis bough]

lol

[zinc rivet]

Water on dah hile

[lapis bough]

lmao

[zinc rivet]

Rock in dah ground

I saw an video with those on yt yesterday lmao

[lapis bough]

was it an animation?

[zinc rivet]

Yeah

[lapis bough]

in 3d?

[zinc rivet]

Yup

[lapis bough]

yeah i know about these, they are funny imo

[zinc rivet]

Yeah lol

[lapis bough]

there's even a whole lore lol

[zinc rivet]

LMFAO

[lapis bough]

im not sure if i should do a 4th color variation or not

but i dont think i will, its already good like that

alright so the tileset looks like that :)

i made the banners myself

[lapis bough]

looks like this in-game

imo it looks cool, except that the corners dont connect well

[lone jetty]

Dang, it looks awesome

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

[lone jetty]

Np :)

[lapis bough]

oh btw the screenshots show the (unfinished) beginning of 1-

surprisingly enough, im making quick progress. probably because i have a lot of ideas, idk

[lapis bough]

i just made half of the level lmao (i reached the checkpoint and did the deco until it

i got some inspiration from my old hack "nsmb ds deluxe"

i know its kinda dumb but i wanna make a section that looks like "The Sewers" from The Tower in GD lol

[lapis bough]

at first i wanted to make the whole first section of "The Sewers", but this will be too long to make the part that i wanted to make after it

[lapis bough]

i still dont know what gimmick to use for 1-4 tho (its supposed to be a sky level)

i hesitate between:

• Bouncing Clouds/mushrooms
• Bobbing Mushrooms
• Mushrooms that go up/down when you stand on them

[sour kettle]

have you used the spinblock yet

[lapis bough]

no

not yet

could be a good idea to use it, yea

thanks!!

honestly if it wasnt for this server, i would probably have given up this hack entirely

(unrelated to the previous messages)

[lapis bough]

i was bored so i added "The Lost Sequel" on the High Quality logo that crook made

(i know there's a weird outline but fixing it would involve remaking everything again)

actually...

[lapis bough]

1- is almost finished. i just gotta add stuff in the last quarter of area 2 and make the bossfight

[junior junco]

nice

what boss fight? Im gussing bowser

[lapis bough]

i plan to use Mega Goomba

[zinc rivet]

you stole my ideas >:(

[lapis bough]

imo it fits as a world 1 bossfight

[zinc rivet]

Jk jk lol

[zinc rivet]

Yeah, i will use it on my hack w1 too

[lapis bough]

at least i didnt steal newerds idea

[zinc rivet]

🤯

[lapis bough]

i plan to buff it in some way tho

oh btw i buffed the first bowser jr fight

it was originally bowser jr on a swinging pendulum, which you could slide on and go through bowser jr

[lone jetty]

Nice

Are you gonna record a video like you did with the other levels?

[zinc rivet]

In my hack i will change the things order a bit, instead of the bosses being on castles/ships, they will be in towers, and bowser jr will be in ships

[junior junco]

if you ever want a modded bowser jr fight, I have a lot of code for so many diffrent things that I can give you

I still havnt made him through bombs yet though

[lapis bough]

now instead, i made the swinging pendulum tilt less, and 2 "4 rotating platforms" with grounded fire piranha plant shooting fire

[lapis bough]

alright thanks

[lapis bough]

yep

[lapis bough]

could be nice

[junior junco]

just ask, I probably have the code to do it lol

[lapis bough]

idk what i would add to bowser jr tho

havent thought about it

[zinc rivet]

Yeah its sort of sonething unique in one way

[lapis bough]

maybe later i will get an idea tho

[lapis bough]

the castle boss are harder than bowser jr tho, but yeah in airships, bowserjr fits more imo

so i'd say buff bowser jr, or make the fight hard in some way (either with bowser jr's settings or by adding other enemies)

[junior junco]

the best bit about bowser jr is that you can easily make him larger as his colider size scales with his model

I have spent like 60 hours messing around with bowser jr lol, Its kinda exiting to share my knowladge on the cursed ass actor

[lapis bough]

nice lol

yea you really modified him in a lot of different ways

might be interesting to make him bigger in later worlds

maybe in world 4 or so, he can be the end of world boss, but larger and throwing shells

[junior junco]

yeah, Im thinking of making a bowser jr control actor so multiple diffrent mods can be stacked as he has like no room left in his settings

[lapis bough]

oh ok

[lapis bough]

did i say that area 2 was outside/outdoors?

[zinc rivet]

I dont think so, but its an cool idea!

[lapis bough]

yeah i dont think ive said it

(i think it was more of a rhetorical question, but people always answer to that kind of question when i ask them lol)

thanks tho!!

[lapis bough]

screenshot of area 1 because yes (area 1 is finished already)

[lone jetty]

Looks beautiful

[lapis bough]

thanks!!!

[lone jetty]

Np :)

[sour kettle]

outta curiosity whatre the hard blocks under the lava for

[lapis bough]

the dry bones heads/skulls

so they dont take 1 year to get back

[sour kettle]

oh i see

smart

[lapis bough]

thanks

i think there was something similar in newerds

[lone jetty]

Oh, that's gigabrain

[lapis bough]

thanks lol

[junior junco]

the tile set looks really clean

[lapis bough]

thanks!!

im very happy of how it turned out

[lone jetty]

Yeah, it's one of the best castle tilesets that I've ever seen

[lapis bough]

dang thanks

[lapis bough]

well, im making a castle level, which means there will be a boss at the end

im not entirely sure of what music to use for the boss theme...

im tempted to use a theme from paper mario 64

either of those two:
https://youtu.be/gNZq_0kvtxk?si=g6GMdK_qjV2u_u_E
https://youtu.be/k6pTDOwanmw?si=HlLP6o4Zr9ojIAWL

i could probably use one for the tower bosses and one for the castle bosses

[lapis bough]

my goal is to finish the level this week

idk if i should use a custom tileset for the bossfight though

i wanna finish everything (except for the boss) today

[lone jetty]

Guess you could finish the level and you can make a cutsom Tileset later

Your choice

[lapis bough]

yeah i can do that

thx

[lone jetty]

No worries

[lapis bough]

alright so i did a small test

i replaced the bowser fight with the mega goomba fight (replacing w1- area 3 with w4- area 2)

and i kinda "buffed" it to see how it would be

remember how in the original game, there was a (somewhat unintended) method where the player could wall-jump instead of pressing the switch and standing on the screw mushrooms?

well now thats the only way to damage the boss lol (walljumping)

and i put spikes where the switch was, which makes it a bit more difficult

[lone jetty]

Interesting, I always beat mega goomba that way, lol

That way you can beat him in 5 seconds

[lapis bough]

its a bit harder in my hack but yea

[lone jetty]

I thought about a way to make this boss a bit harder that I plan on implementing in my hack

[lapis bough]

might try to add stuff later on

[lapis bough]

oh interesting

might be good if i added goomba spawners? idk

[lone jetty]

I guess you can

[lapis bough]

i just tried, its an absolute mess

i think holes with spikes are enough

[lone jetty]

You could alternatively remove the spikes from the holes and add the goomba spawners above those holes

[lapis bough]

probably

[lone jetty]

Hole...

[lapis bough]

but would they fall down into the hole or something?

[lone jetty]

FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!

[lapis bough]

FIRE IN THE HOLE

lmao

[lone jetty]

They would fall through the hole yes

[lapis bough]

i dont think using goombas with spawners is a good idea though

because you gotta jump high to defeat megagoomba

[lone jetty]

The constantly falling goombas would make the battle more difficult imo

[lone jetty]

Well, it's your choice

[lapis bough]

ok

[sour kettle]

i wonder if the goomba boss reacts to being drilled into

like after jumping off a spin block

[lapis bough]

could be interesting to try out

guess i'll try tomorrow

[lone jetty]

Interesting idea, I've never thought about this before

[junior junco]

he doesnt

[lone jetty]

Awww sad

[sour kettle]

rip

[lone jetty]

Tbh it was too good to be true

[lapis bough]

oh :/

[lapis bough]

STUPID

STUPID NSMBE

it crashed :/

well its alright, i added 2 sprites right after saving and thats when it crashed

[zinc rivet]

Thats awfull :(

[lapis bough]

no its fine lol

i lost 2 coins that i placed down

[lone jetty]

Damn, this is the season where NSMBe crashes for everyone, lmao

[lapis bough]

yeah lol

[lone jetty]

It crashed 3 times yesterday when I was making 2-Airship

[lapis bough]

dang

[lone jetty]

Rip those coins, they'll never be forgotten

[lapis bough]

i readded them lol

anyway, here's the rainbow star by @zinc rivet (sorry for ping)
thanks again!

i think i buffed the boss battle too much tho lol

and also the level...

the second half is pretty difficult

[zinc rivet]

WOW IT LOOKS BETTER ON THIS SCREENSHOT

[lapis bough]

oh

[zinc rivet]

This star really fits for boss keys

[lapis bough]

yep

you got a genius idea

[lapis bough]

why did i read "you got a girlfriend" 😭😭

[zinc rivet]

LMFAO

[lapis bough]

i decided that the bossfight arena would use the "red" palette of the castle tileset i made

the thing is that im not quite sure animore about making the player use wall jumps to beat the boss (mega goomba)

[lone jetty]

Well, NSMB bosses are way too easy, and we'll always try to figure out some ways to make them harder

Oh btw, speaking of the castle tileset, I remember you said you wanted to have animated torches right?

[lapis bough]

yea

[lone jetty]

I think I know a way to do it, but I haven't tested it so I don't know if it'll work at all, but it should I think

[lapis bough]

oh ok

what is it?

i have something to do rn, i'll read it when i have time

thanks tho

[lone jetty]

You know this animated unused lava tile from the Castle tileset right? What if you replace that Lava Tile with a torch and edit the Lava animation? It's located in the ROM File Browser Tab

[lone jetty]

Alright

[lapis bough]

ohh thats a great idea, thanks!!

not sure if i want wall torches and/or regular torches tho

but probably wall torches

[lone jetty]

No problem man, let me know if it works, I'd like to make animated torches too, I hope you don't mind

If you need to know the file locations don't hesitate to ask me

[lone jetty]

Hmm, regular torches sounds like a good idea

[lapis bough]

sure you can make animated torches too

after all you told me how to do it

[lone jetty]

Alright

Be careful though, the lava animation is in the same file that the conveyor belts and the Top BG torches animation, and they share the Tileset palettes, I'd suggest editing the images and importing them back with the existing palettes

[lapis bough]

oh alright

yeah i might do that when trying to add back all the required stuff, including the fences

[lapis bough]

might make a trailer once i make at least one level in each world

[lapis bough]

1-Castle is practically finished. I just need to apply a code hack to place podoboos 1/2 tile right, and to configure the bg scroll code hack. and also modify the goomboss fight a bit

i think i accidentally made my hack too hard lol

1-Castle and 2-3 are pretty hard, especially 1-Castle

[lone jetty]

Relatable, lol

Usually my level always turn out harder than intended